Tokyo Marui M4A1 MWS GBBR - In-depth Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ส.ค. 2024
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As someone looking into the TM MWS as my first gbbr, knowing very little about the internals, this video was so helpful! I will be referencing it repeatedly if I convince my wife to let me get one :)
The review I have always been looking for
Marvelous! !
I believe You are the best TM M4A1 MWS reviewer in the world.
Good job Sir!
+VacachinRed LOL haha thank you! made my day!
best regards,
RS087
Really nice review! Lots of detail and very in-depth!
+Jeffie Jeff's Airsoft XP
You can buy Like 1000s of the orings to put inside those fill valves. I do it for all my marui mags. For pistol mags...you need size H-001 and there are larger ones.
Awesome job with the in depth review, cant wait to see the inner barel and hop up system.
outstanding! very limited number of video which can be found on youtube have such nice review for the internals of the latest airsoft gun. I have subscript your channel without a second thought. Please do keep making such good review!!
+khsoust thanks a bunch~!!!!! made my day!!! XP
finished all the way very well done brother,love it i my self also own tm gbbr i do all the modification watching your great video i also learned a lot.thanks for the lesson,thats how we lean.again thank you so much,
6 Years ago!! Wow.
Fantastic video. Thank you!
Real steel charging handle are quite a bit longer so they would not be compatible with each other as far as I know but there are plenty of aftermarket support for TM that you can easily find a repro of a real one for the mws ( geissle airborne are very nice )!
your information is very clear i like it
Good detail video,but sometimes wait the camera to focus before continue fliming
PS What do you
think about changing it to MK12Mod1
Hi, Is it Ok to use Green gas rather than the HFC134a?
+Ying Fan appears to be okay with green gas, however, because the buffer is made out of plastic, that part can break and the MWS is not compatable with WA buffers because they are too wide *unless you heavily modify.
Note that angry gun is currently releasing a metal buffer! heavy recoil and speed buffer version too!
+RogueSystem087 Thank you very much for replying! Apart from the buffer, can the plastic nozzle be damaged as well due to using the Green gas?
that's the thing, so far, it doesn't seem to break!! which i'm quite suprised myself considering that it has a couple of extra moving parts inside!
i've actually been running this on a slightly higher pressure green gas for a while now and the nozzle appears to hold up!
+RogueSystem087 Thanks, the plastic nozzle and buffer are only two parts I am really worry about.
Are you going to do videos on how to tune these?
Hi manrecently I noticed that when I use green gas the bolt fails to lock back when mag is empty. It will work fine when the pressure goes lower. Do you have the same issue? Or have you heard of any other owners complaining about this? thank you and keep it up.
Hi, I have a noob question - how does the bolt cycle in comparison with real steel? Does the gas actually move down the barrel and through the gas tube to re cycle the BCG? Or does the gas cycle it instantly after leaving the magazine directly? Great video by the way 👌
its cycles instantly after leaving the mag. I own a TM mk18 mod.1, first airsoft I ever bought. Now Canada is trying to ban airsoft, there goes my new hobby.
theres any zinc parts internally? or is it all steel as polymer?
What if I want to fit a standard M4 Carbine hand guard? Do I need to replace the delta ring?
yes because the tm replica is only AEG compatible
To relieve the most spring tension during long term storage, do I leave the fire selector on semi or full auto?
Shouldn't really make a difference but semi. Just make sure that the hammer is not cocked! The selector switch has a thicker part on full auto that enables the hammer (and sear) to drop again and semi has the bigger opening so if you doubt the japanese engineering just leave it on semi.
mate I love your scope can you send me the link where tobuy? thanks
I just went to look at a used MWS, the nozzle wasn’t going back when pulled, as if there was no spring. Does that cause problems?
The MWS system intentionally made it such that the nozzle is retained (looks like as if it's stuck) at the hopup chamber until the bolt reaches about 60% of its travel distance, of which the spring will reach maximum tension and pull the nozzle backwards. This allows better gas efficiency and better airseal compared to complementary GBB systems.
Nice review bro...
nice review! if you don't mind me asking, do you find the lower FPS on the Marui disadvantageous vs the ghk for use in hongkong? what fps does yours shoot at now and is it enough to use with .3bbs?
it still shoots around the same (right now a little higher because of the hot summer in hong kong).
Personally, I prefer the ghk hop up more so than the marui hop up (in this case), the reason is because i have had fantastic performance from AEG barrels and buckings (not to mention the hop up arm you can make an M nub for it so i very much prefer the GHK hop up). I also like the captain america setup from samoon made for the GHK M4 along with the TNT package. So lots of reasons for me to prefer the GHK m4.
For the marui, its not bad, pretty good, but not.... like its ''impressive'' its consistent but not particularly impressive in terms of .. all aspects associated with the hop up besides the consistency of the hop.
I have used 0.3 gram bbs in the stock setup before, and honestly it couldn't carry the bb (which i expected being such a soft rubber). Right now its shooting 370 fps with 0.2 gram bbs and goes to 390 right now due to summer conditions. (note i made this review in decemeber, and the fps was still 370 ish).
thanks for replying. small world apparently we have common friends. see ya sat ^^
lol haha
Hey, thanks for all your vids about TM MWS...
I recently installed a SVOBODA Carbine Stock on my MWS, it has stopped locking back when I pull the charging handle... Can you help...
Hey! I was wondering what threads the mws accepts? If I were to replace the rail system would I get an AEG barrel nut or GBB
+Altis Independent Films Hi there! i can tell you with confidence that the threading on the MWS is the same as regular AEG threadings like those you will find on PTS rails, and madbull rails (excluding the special madbulls made by G&Ps).
HOWEVER, you will need an AEG barrel adapter which you can find on my channel here
th-cam.com/video/v5NUtouywYs/w-d-xo.html
You will need this barrel nut adapter if you use an AEG rail or otherwise the outer barrel will not be properly secured.
I will note, that the only AEGs which I do not know about fitment, would be the one's that require a delta ring such as a VTAC or an Omega rail style rail.
Best regards,
RS087
So do you think the AEG Dytac Giselle rails will fit of course with the spacer.
(sorry im a bit of a newbei when in comes to AEG parts)
+Altis Independent Films it should fit, although I have not tried myself, I'm fairly certain they will fit since the threadings on the MWS are the regular aeg threads.
Be entirely honest, the only thing i would be concerned about is torqueing down the barrel nut on the gun with the spacer because there's a descent amount of people out there who are installing by hand (such as noveske rails or strike industries rails that don't exactly have a specific area for you to take a wrench and torque down. (i ended using a pressure clamp tool as a wrench to help others install).
Otherwise, you should be fine, just make sure u can the proper version of the dytac rails cos they make many
best regards,
RS087
what site do you use to get custom rails/stocks etc? and do they ship to the Netherlands?
Is there any internal difference between m4a1 and cqbr?
hey!
Thanks for review, really great and thorough!
I'm thinking of getting into GBBR, just because it looks and feels cool :D I want to feel special also haha
Sorry if I ask something wrong :)
Since I'm in EU, my two options are: GHK m4 v2 OR TM MWS zet
From specs (on redwolfairsoft.com) the only problem is that I'd have to upgrade TM from 280 to 400fps (1.5J) since that is the allowance in my country for assault rifles.
My questions are:
1. approx how pricey would that upgrade be?
2. would you recommend the GHK or TM in this case? I can do some minor, but don't want any major, upgrade for whichever rifle
Thanks a lot! Stay frosty!
Hey, I have both so I can answer your questions.
1. Both don't really need that much upgrade really, skirmishable out of the box, more on the marui side. I changed the buffer return spring on the ghk tho, the original one was weak.
2. Both rifle would do just fine, GHK has an edge on realism and recoil, but TM is somewhat more accurate and reliable. However if you buy TM be expected to change the buffer tube or the lower assembly soon because shooting green gas with it might have a problem
@@maX0229567 thank you a lot for answer!
so if I don't want to meddle with the original rifle a lot (at least not internals), better option would be GHK?
and if you could say, what is the difference in accuracy? like small or big (your approximation)?
and what means "more reliable"? reliable in what way?
sry to bother you and thanks a lot for help!
I have only money for one, and a big stretch haha, so that's why I'm "afraid" to pick wrong one
@@gordanovcaric7670 Both guns have solid internals, you can pick either one and it would be fine.
Accuracy wise, when both TM and GHK are stock, TM's grouping at 5-7 meters are smaller by half.
I ran into some bolt lock problems with the GHK, I took a file and grinded off some material and it has been fine ever since. The TM zet system is designed to counter this problem, but I don't have it long enough to tell you if it's solid or not, but there should be a lot of info for you on the internet.
So to conclude, if you want the most realistic one, GHK. If you want more performance, and are willing to chime in some small money to upgrade the stock parts, TM for sure.
@@gordanovcaric7670dal bi mi preporucio mws, ako vec imam ghk? i kolka je stvarno razlika i kicku ako oba rade na green gas?
so what is the best gbbr m4 you've seen? ghk?
unfornately ghk was just a big disaster for me cos the stuff internally can't handle its own power (if u look up the problems, its not really fixable without paying a high cost to order the parts get it shipped and all). for me the marui was cheaper and more stable.
in terms of pure performance, i would give it to the ghk (When it is working).
I just purchase this gun and it came brand new in the box with a bent barrel. WTF.....
i have sear broken already b4 my nozzle~ just hope someone has it out soon
Given that Cerakote is Ceramic...its going to Be MUCH BETTER THAN THE BLACK PAINT THAT GOES ON MOST GUNS. 1 its not going to come off and make a black greasy mess.
Im really thinking about getting this for the summer, Im in northern california and I do not want to pay house prices of my local retailers, I was wondering what website is good for Californians to buy Tokyo marui goods to avoid any issues of customs seizing or destroying trades and what alternative mags could I use for this rifle? Thanks.
Roland Bioc ;( sorry i think ur going to have to figure out where to buy on ur own ;( i live in hk so our choices vary heavily relative to urs.
Mag wise u have tm, iron airsoft, prowin, and some china copies that dont function very well. I just stuck to tm mags cos they seem to work better than the other offerings (as u may have research online, some of em are.. picky and require use to modify our lowers which is a huge commitment)
@@RogueSystem087
Would a recoil next gen be a good option if this is too much because it is pricey here in California, The only think I have to worry about the ngrs are the battery and the lock up issues
Roland Bioc hmmm to be honest thats a totally different ball game, i think i depends if ur willing to deal with the issues, cos its rather tedious to work on when u do have issues, few more steps than a regular aeg. Depends on ur perspective on it, im okay with next gen but i personally find it tedious to work on
You are missing some details... what gas did you use? Does standard AEG grip fits? What outer barrel would fit, AEG, GBB or not?
+playlifes26
gas I showed on the video, the can is in chinese and does not specify the contents as detailedly as a propane tank that you would commonly find in the US. In hong kong, its labelled as top gas, but also called green gas (word play in hong kong i guess). Not sure, but that's why i use.
As for the AEG grips, AEG grips have a completely different interface relative to grips for ARs, since an AEG grip works by lining them up with the grooves on a mechbox, therefore it will not interface correctly with a GBB body of any kind (WE, WA, INO, TM etc etc). There's also cos the screw required to install is different and different holes. But the primary problem, is interfacing the grips is not possible due the size difference and straight up incompatibility.
As for the outer barrel, i excluded that information because the TM M4 MWS uses their own proprietary barrel nut and barrel clamp system which i could not remove at the time. I later found out that it was rather easy to remove it.
But to answer your question more directly, no barrels in the market right now will fit the marui M4 MWS. With the exception of the Angry Gun 300 Blackout kit barrels that were released a couple of days ago.
best regards,
RS087
+RogueSystem087 Thanks. You are very thorough.
:)
+RogueSystem087 top gas 猛將
Ah there we go thank you!
Can you do a video on how to clean and maintain the MWS?
will do!! next week!! :) strange coincidence :) XD
Oh sweet! Thanks dude
But the MTR16 is just sexier... So this can't compete anymore
Any thoughts on the MWS vs the GHK M4 V2 after they've fixed the bolt catch issue?
Travis Lu i think it depends on how u view both systems, if u dont mind working on a ghk platform them go with it, i prefer TM cos its simpler in terms of using it, no hop up issues, no o rings blowing out, mag doesnt leak as often as ghk mags although to be fair anyone using gbb should use gbbs with the expectation of replacing o rings, since they are consumables. I think the downside of tm is dissassembling them aint as fun as a ghk, depends on you view it really.
Wow thanks for the quick response! ghk has hop up issues? I was unaware of this. I know the ghk is known for Internal realism but I don't exactly know how? what makes the mws less realistic and why is the ghk more fun to disassemble?
well to be honest i strongly reconmmend you research GHK a little more cos its worthwhile to know all the technical aspect of it, lots of information and reports of problems and many different builds have been done since then.
The take down of tm is in a trigger box, lots of things are not similar to a real ar, where as a ghk has actual trigger pins, an actual hammer that locks with the base of the trigger and semi auto sear like a real AR, it looks very similar. Tm like i said its in a trigger box, as u can see in the video it does have a semi auto sear but it uses several other levers to move the primary sear, so the take down is more complex and less realistic.
Compared to a GHK, WA, the tm is reallly really different, there’s almost nothing like it, whatseven more odd is the tm full auto sear has a role to play in both semi AND auto. Where as other ars the auto sear has nothing to do with semi.
Research all this a little more carefullly before you buy, if you dont have the cash to pay someone to fix it for you, ur probs gonna have to learn it, see which one is best for you.
My decision making process was as follows, taiwan parts are not readily available to me other than by Samoon, which i have to pay shipping everytime. Tm always has local support in Hong Kong, so my decision is logical and fairly obvious. As you can tell in the video too, opening the rifle is fairly straight forward to me as well so the complication does not apply to me.
my bolt does not want to lock back when my mag is empty. Do you know how to fix this problem?
+an8kyoe unless if your bbs are somehow not going all the way up (which is common for bbs like madbull, G&G, they will jam up the follower causing it to feel like u fired all the shots in the mag with no bolt lock (the folllwer need to go all the way up for it bolt lock).
my last thing is... maybe somehow magically your internal bolt mechansim in the trigger box is somehow malfunctining which is not likely o)O
May i know where is the location for the gun test?
Very good Movie - thanks a lot \ - . - /
Thats an auto sear not disconnector
the auto sear is next to the third sear / disconnector (depending on how u term it, keep in mind at the time, gm didn't have parts and nobody had replacements so forgive me for not having a proper name for it).
Dumb question, but how do you remove the selector switch to disassemble the trigger box?
hmm have you ever taken apart a WA? its sorta like wiggling it past the full auto sear which u may need to press on it a little then just push the selector out (note the selector has detents pushing up against it, it will feel a little difficult at first, don't use a hammer, not needed!
Where is the full auto sear on the Marui? In the WA system, it's easy to find, but I'm not sure where it is on the marui
yea its really hard to see if have never disassembled it before, because the full auto sear is right next a tertiary sear for the trigger.
if you pop open your gun, have the hammer down, and pull your trigger you can see the trigger sear moving and that is how you tell the difference between the full auto sear and trigger sear.
Ah, so is it easiest to work out the selector switch between full auto and semi?
you normally just wiggle it out, between semi and auto. Reason is because the selector catches on the back side of the trigger, so just wiggle it u'll eventually get it.
I don't really pay attention to the specifics when i take apart the gun so forgive me, but i just remember it didnt' take long to wiggle it out.
What is the stock fps on green gas ?
would the wire cutter rail work on this? (The angry gun one)
yup! just get the proper barrel nut and then u'll be fine.
(the MWS uses standard AEG threads)
Did your mws shoot 400 stock?
Does this take milspec only buttstocks?
would the magpul onepoint sling point fit
at the back i'm fairly certain it can on the sling point that's only the stock. I know the ms3 fits for sure (cos that's what i use)
very-very
are you using the handguard rail produced by PTS?
Correct! pts CMR 11 inch! or was it 11.5, i forget lol
+RogueSystem087 I am interested in PTS CMR 11inch & PTS Fortis REV free floating rail 12 inch, do you have any ideas which one could fit the marui M4 gbb better?
Both rails are quite straightforward, to be honest, ur problem will probably be the shim that u need to hold the barrel. u can either make ur own like i did or buy after market shims thag currently being released. i suggest u just pick the one u like and then figure out the shim u need to install. cos that part can be annoying to some
Its also worth noting, that the top part of the rail that locks in with the upper receiver willl have a small gap, but this is not a problem since the rail clamps onto the barrel nut tightly (as u can see mine is flush).
+RogueSystem087 I purhcased the same rail that you are using today and I am waiting for 3rd party to release the shim which is designed for M4 MWS GBB.
Thanks for your advise~
Where is the powerbrakeㅠ -korean user
Is your magpul stock milspec?
Thats what i was thinking too
@@kamppiruller98 I ordered a Magpul ctr stock in milspec and it fits like a glove.
Oh okay thanks for that!
Do you know who I am
dunno,
upgrade video!!!!!
what gas are you using?
+Ming Chung Tam the green and white army camo one. Very common in hk, its like 100hkd for 3 cans (you probs know what i mean)
yup.Thanks.Do you live in HK?
Yes i do!
Want to meet some foreigner to play together. haha~I also owned the marui m4 mws. How's your performance on your gun?
Haha maybe one day! rather busy during christmas with work! but u r more than welcome to visit ehobby! i work as the gun doc there!
as for the marui m4 mws its been working really well. i will say the long distance range like 40+ meters needs a lot of work to tighten the groupings, and i do experience some cool down issues when extreme rapid firing. currently attemtping to filter out these minor problems, but otherwise its been very reliable so far.
real gas blow back? what the fuck is regular gas blow back or non real gas blow back? lmao
😂 $450 your dreemin
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Onicorn mine was $700 I’m pretty sure this was a wet dreem