This is a very welcomed change! Having to throw everything that is LTC into Tentacle software then export into Premiere was one of the many reasons I have been learning how to run Davinci 🤣 Looking forward to trying the multi-camera feature again instead of clipping on the timeline.
@@MikePlayDrums depends if your device can be embedded with tc or not. Many recorders and cameras don't have it where it runs continuously . Linear can be easier to work with with those kinds of devices I think is the point.
Wow I was looking for a way to Use Timecode on A7siii, but at the same time have on camera mic recording as well and seems like it is now possible todo with deity devices?
Ok so Matt, it seems like the deity PR2 and the Tascam FR-AV2 are the better option. I'm assuming you can change frame rate much easier. Can you please do a timecode video on these two recorders?
How does it work with mismatched framerates? I know this isn't the 'right' way to do things, but for our weddings we shoot 60fps all day, but then 24fps for ceremony and speeches. Our workflow has been using tentacles with the Tentacle Sync Studio app, using linear (audio) timecode and setting the timecode to 23.98. So even if we're recording in 60fps throughout the day, the LTC on the audio track is 23.98, which is what we always 'master' our films in. Tentacle sync seems to not care about the clip frame rate (we switch from 24 to 60 without having to think about changing timecode settings) and it just syncs up perfectly. Even if we have a multicam with 3 cameras, with one in 60p and two in in 24p, it still syncs them up because they all have the 23.98 LTC embedded on the left channel that it pulls from. Again, I'm aware this isn't the correct way to do things, but this workflow DOES work and does sync with the Tentacle app, and it means I set timecode ONCE in the morning, and then any of my cameras can change frame rates and no one has to get a headache. So I"m curious if this workflow is similar and could work in place of the tentacle app if you have cams with multiple framerates? Or if Premiere doesn't like that
This is a really interesting comment and I'm fascinated to learn more about how this works! All of the studying I have ever done on frame-accurate timecode stipulates that all devices absolutely MUST be set to the same frame rate. The fact that you are not doing this and yet it still works for you raises a lot of questions for me now! Unless maybe I'm misunderstanding and you are not trying to sync up audio with your 60fps footage, just syncing the footage with other footage? Either way - I want to understand this!
@@topdazzleyes I sync 3-4 cameras with audio! Currently using a mixpre3ii and the Rode Wireless Pro, and everything has been working for me for weddings! I imagine it’s the same concept as making a 24p multi cam with a 60p clip and 24p clip. It can still sync them up you will just drop frames on the 60p clip during playback. I’m sure there’s some downside but it’s been working great for me so far! So basically everything is set to 23.98 (timecode on tentacle and audio devices, tentacle sync studio timeline, fcpx master timeline, fcpx multicam clips) and the cameras themselves can be either 24 or 60 but with 23.98 audio TC on the left channel, and both work.
Is there any way to use Premiere Pro, Premiere Elements, AE or another tool/plugin/platform to label each clip based on the faces that are in it? Similar to how the iPhone or Google Photos has a "People" section? I currently analyze TV show analytics such as character screen time (i.e., how much time each cast member is the screen during each episode). As on now, I am using “Scene-Edit Detection” and then manually typing and naming the clip based on the faces of the cast member(s) that is shown. Thanks so much!
Very interesting, thank you! Will this work with gopros? I've tried using a QR code to jam sync the cameras but for some reason in premiere they don't get synced. I have to drag the clips around manually to get them timed correctly 😢
I'm still experimenting with this myself, but according to Deity it will work with the Hero 9 and newer. I've been using audio sync in Premiere with my Hero 7s which works well initially, but it leaves a bit to be desired as longer videos tend to drift as a function of time.
@bdodds Thank you. I'll have to try to find another tutorial to follow, to see if I'm doing something wrong. I'm using a gro GoPro 10 and 11's so it should work pretty well but so far it hasn't for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the cameras...IDK🤷♂️
So with linear TC, do all the cameras, recorders have to be all the same frame rate still? Or your TC1 & PR2 need too be the same frame rate still? Thank you
IDUNO Matt...Though I appreciate your enthusiasm, to me, Premiere's synchronize feature already does the trick pretty well. RARELY do I have a problem syncing audio to video, & when I do, it doesn't take but a couple of seconds to fix. So to me, this is Adobe fixing a problem that really didn't exist. 🤷♂
If you have controlled audio (no wind or loud crowd etc.) then the Adobe sync by sound works pretty well. In a case like mine, running 3 camera angles and 3 mics across a wedding ceremony/ wedding day outside where the camera doesn't pick up the bride and groom, then timecode can save you a lottttt of headache instead of lining things up manually when Premiere fails to sync those clips. Really just depends on your workflow and style!
Timecode has been around for a long time, and I know there are a lot of people that use it. At the same time, the synchronization feature is already good like you said. I'm glad Adobe is giving us more options.
I recently tested this out with my GH5. I used an Atomos Ultrasync One to the Mic jack of the GH5 and got that familiar data tone you describe. After selecting LTC in Premiere, timecode appears in the metadata and it's in the ballpark of my other connected camera. It even syncs up with my other camera that was also attached to the Ultrasync via SDI. Unfortunately the two recordings are like 3 seconds off eachother. Thought maybe it was my GH5, so I tried the audio input of my HC-X2000 and same story. It actually syncs the files, and it moves them in the timeline to overlap each other. It's just that the overlap is always off by the same few seconds. Any ideas?
Wow! It took them a few years but they finally added the feature. On a later version we expect to see a proper version, where, among many other fixes, a new user workspace will be present, despite the user switching among presets.
Hey @whoismatt - I'm having a a weird Audio Issue since doing the update. When I drag a song into the timeline (Audio Channel 1) it only plays Mono-left. If i drag it to channel 2, it plays mono-right. If i drag it to channel 3 or 4, it plays nothing... And if I create a new 5th channel, it plas like normal in stereo. The same is happening with my in-camera-audio when I drag it in. I updated my drivers, restarted, and still am experiencing this. Anyone else? Am i missing something lol
Problem Solved - My *Default Sequence Settings* when creating a new sequence automatically create a "Broadcast 4Mono" sequence after the 2025 update, with a "Mix Track Type; Mono" built into the timeline. Solution- Upon opening a New Sequence, select a "preset" like UHD(4K) HDR, for example, that shows a Mix Track Type: Stereo. Now when you drag in your first clip, and select "Change to Match Footage" you will have normal Stereo Audiotracks. Note: I was unable to adjust the Sequence Settings of the Mono-Sequence... I had to create a whole new sequence, and carry my work over to it. Hope this helps anyone with my issue.
I used the same timecodes boxes and recorders you have in this video and changed everything like you said and when I select both video(with audio) and audio clips it wont even give me the option to sync with timecode. Thoughts?
@@whoismatt Yup yup. Could be user error on my end since the project I'm referring to is the first time using timecode. So I could have not done it correctly
@@whoismatt maybe I'm just ignorant but I've never really liked premiere for syncing clips. I be using Plural Eyes 👀 and just import the XML files into premiere after I setup my bins, labels, and what not🏷️. I haven't used that multi cam since 2019 release, maybe it's gotten better lol 😂
Matt! Just be careful with the bleeding sound from timecode channel to "camera sound". Known issue and can ruin your in camera sounds if you need them.
This is a very welcomed change! Having to throw everything that is LTC into Tentacle software then export into Premiere was one of the many reasons I have been learning how to run Davinci 🤣 Looking forward to trying the multi-camera feature again instead of clipping on the timeline.
Can you make an example on how to sync footage with a lot of clips and more than one camera? Along with a mix of normal timecode and LTC?
Hi Matt! Is there a benefit to use embedded vs linear time code? Or vice versa?
@@MikePlayDrums depends if your device can be embedded with tc or not. Many recorders and cameras don't have it where it runs continuously . Linear can be easier to work with with those kinds of devices I think is the point.
If all your devices support embedded I would use that because it will save you from having to use up one of your audio channels.
Wow I was looking for a way to Use Timecode on A7siii, but at the same time have on camera mic recording as well and seems like it is now possible todo with deity devices?
Yes the deity TC-1 has a built in time code splitter and will send time code on one channel and audio on the other
Thank you for the visual aid with TC. I'm so happy now creativity is flowing.
Matt this is perfect! I just order some Deity TC-1 and the PR-2 devices to help with timecode for my videos and this video is just what I needed!
Ok so Matt, it seems like the deity PR2 and the Tascam FR-AV2 are the better option. I'm assuming you can change frame rate much easier. Can you please do a timecode video on these two recorders?
How does it work with mismatched framerates? I know this isn't the 'right' way to do things, but for our weddings we shoot 60fps all day, but then 24fps for ceremony and speeches. Our workflow has been using tentacles with the Tentacle Sync Studio app, using linear (audio) timecode and setting the timecode to 23.98. So even if we're recording in 60fps throughout the day, the LTC on the audio track is 23.98, which is what we always 'master' our films in. Tentacle sync seems to not care about the clip frame rate (we switch from 24 to 60 without having to think about changing timecode settings) and it just syncs up perfectly. Even if we have a multicam with 3 cameras, with one in 60p and two in in 24p, it still syncs them up because they all have the 23.98 LTC embedded on the left channel that it pulls from.
Again, I'm aware this isn't the correct way to do things, but this workflow DOES work and does sync with the Tentacle app, and it means I set timecode ONCE in the morning, and then any of my cameras can change frame rates and no one has to get a headache.
So I"m curious if this workflow is similar and could work in place of the tentacle app if you have cams with multiple framerates? Or if Premiere doesn't like that
I will need to test this
@@whoismattI think this may answer my question at the top,
Also I think in theroy this would work and possibly be a game changer
This is a really interesting comment and I'm fascinated to learn more about how this works! All of the studying I have ever done on frame-accurate timecode stipulates that all devices absolutely MUST be set to the same frame rate. The fact that you are not doing this and yet it still works for you raises a lot of questions for me now! Unless maybe I'm misunderstanding and you are not trying to sync up audio with your 60fps footage, just syncing the footage with other footage? Either way - I want to understand this!
@@topdazzleyes I sync 3-4 cameras with audio! Currently using a mixpre3ii and the Rode Wireless Pro, and everything has been working for me for weddings!
I imagine it’s the same concept as making a 24p multi cam with a 60p clip and 24p clip. It can still sync them up you will just drop frames on the 60p clip during playback. I’m sure there’s some downside but it’s been working great for me so far!
So basically everything is set to 23.98 (timecode on tentacle and audio devices, tentacle sync studio timeline, fcpx master timeline, fcpx multicam clips) and the cameras themselves can be either 24 or 60 but with 23.98 audio TC on the left channel, and both work.
@@topdazzle This what i have been doing too, Doing it via LTC, would be a game changer
Is there any way to use Premiere Pro, Premiere Elements, AE or another tool/plugin/platform to label each clip based on the faces that are in it? Similar to how the iPhone or Google Photos has a "People" section?
I currently analyze TV show analytics such as character screen time (i.e., how much time each cast member is the screen during each episode). As on now, I am using “Scene-Edit Detection” and then manually typing and naming the clip based on the faces of the cast member(s) that is shown.
Thanks so much!
Very interesting, thank you!
Will this work with gopros?
I've tried using a QR code to jam sync the cameras but for some reason in premiere they don't get synced. I have to drag the clips around manually to get them timed correctly 😢
I'm still experimenting with this myself, but according to Deity it will work with the Hero 9 and newer. I've been using audio sync in Premiere with my Hero 7s which works well initially, but it leaves a bit to be desired as longer videos tend to drift as a function of time.
@bdodds
Thank you. I'll have to try to find another tutorial to follow, to see if I'm doing something wrong.
I'm using a gro GoPro 10 and 11's so it should work pretty well but so far it hasn't for me.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the cameras...IDK🤷♂️
So with linear TC, do all the cameras, recorders have to be all the same frame rate still?
Or your TC1 & PR2 need too be the same frame rate still?
Thank you
IDUNO Matt...Though I appreciate your enthusiasm, to me, Premiere's synchronize feature already does the trick pretty well. RARELY do I have a problem syncing audio to video, & when I do, it doesn't take but a couple of seconds to fix. So to me, this is Adobe fixing a problem that really didn't exist. 🤷♂
If you have controlled audio (no wind or loud crowd etc.) then the Adobe sync by sound works pretty well. In a case like mine, running 3 camera angles and 3 mics across a wedding ceremony/ wedding day outside where the camera doesn't pick up the bride and groom, then timecode can save you a lottttt of headache instead of lining things up manually when Premiere fails to sync those clips. Really just depends on your workflow and style!
Timecode has been around for a long time, and I know there are a lot of people that use it. At the same time, the synchronization feature is already good like you said. I'm glad Adobe is giving us more options.
If you have an entire series to work on it can be hell without timecode.
Does this remove the need for round tripping to Resolve now when using the Rode Wireless Pro's TC?
I recently tested this out with my GH5. I used an Atomos Ultrasync One to the Mic jack of the GH5 and got that familiar data tone you describe. After selecting LTC in Premiere, timecode appears in the metadata and it's in the ballpark of my other connected camera. It even syncs up with my other camera that was also attached to the Ultrasync via SDI. Unfortunately the two recordings are like 3 seconds off eachother. Thought maybe it was my GH5, so I tried the audio input of my HC-X2000 and same story. It actually syncs the files, and it moves them in the timeline to overlap each other. It's just that the overlap is always off by the same few seconds. Any ideas?
Wow! It took them a few years but they finally added the feature. On a later version we expect to see a proper version, where, among many other fixes, a new user workspace will be present, despite the user switching among presets.
you are the best !!!!
Excellent!!!!
Can we please get a 2024/2025 best 4k export settings video 🙏🏼
Hey @whoismatt - I'm having a a weird Audio Issue since doing the update. When I drag a song into the timeline (Audio Channel 1) it only plays Mono-left. If i drag it to channel 2, it plays mono-right. If i drag it to channel 3 or 4, it plays nothing... And if I create a new 5th channel, it plas like normal in stereo. The same is happening with my in-camera-audio when I drag it in. I updated my drivers, restarted, and still am experiencing this. Anyone else? Am i missing something lol
Problem Solved - My *Default Sequence Settings* when creating a new sequence automatically create a "Broadcast 4Mono" sequence after the 2025 update, with a "Mix Track Type; Mono" built into the timeline. Solution- Upon opening a New Sequence, select a "preset" like UHD(4K) HDR, for example, that shows a Mix Track Type: Stereo. Now when you drag in your first clip, and select "Change to Match Footage" you will have normal Stereo Audiotracks.
Note: I was unable to adjust the Sequence Settings of the Mono-Sequence... I had to create a whole new sequence, and carry my work over to it. Hope this helps anyone with my issue.
I used the same timecodes boxes and recorders you have in this video and changed everything like you said and when I select both video(with audio) and audio clips it wont even give me the option to sync with timecode. Thoughts?
Are you running the latest version of Premiere Pro?
@@whoismatt Yup yup. Could be user error on my end since the project I'm referring to is the first time using timecode. So I could have not done it correctly
I see the option for sync with time code but its grayed out
I don't get why/how A7SIII and other modern mirrorless cams can't just sync timecode via bluetooth or usb cable or something
So we still need a timecode device attached to record LTC timecode. The only difference is that it's plugged into the mini jack and we lose a Chanel?
Yes
Jp gotcha with that time code huh!! 😅
😂😂😂
JP gets us all
@@whoismatt dude, if it works it works!
@@whoismatt maybe I'm just ignorant but I've never really liked premiere for syncing clips.
I be using Plural Eyes 👀 and just import the XML files into premiere after I setup my bins, labels, and what not🏷️.
I haven't used that multi cam since 2019 release, maybe it's gotten better lol 😂
But what happens when you have a ton of files to sync? you have to go one by one? Thanks
Spot on description about linear timecode signal and dial up internet sounds. 😅
Matt! Just be careful with the bleeding sound from timecode channel to "camera sound". Known issue and can ruin your in camera sounds if you need them.
Old person voice: remember when you had to dial into the internet 😂
yes I feel old now too
inspirational
Is anyone still using Premiere?
Why not use it?
Still very popular editing software
Second only to Avid, it's probably the most preferred video editing software by more than a few Hollywood studios. 🤷♂
Nice yeh first comment
nothing new
jesus christ