It's still happening today!! Look at India's caste system. You can literally purchase a young girl for a couple hundred U.S. dollars in their pre-teens to teens, from a family in the lowest rung of the caste system. That's so f--ked up!!!
It has always been class. But, they know they won't fix that issue, so they use race because they knew they could. Glad some see the holes in that argument.
And that’s why they killed Kennedy , MLK and John Lennon because they were trying to end the class system. Anyone who try’s to unite us at the bottom end up dead.
AMERICA WAS BUILT AND IS RAN ON A RACIAL CAST SYSTEM.. ALSO...HOW CAN BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SLAVES WHEN THEY NEVER HAD RIGHTS TIL 1965...THIS ANTI BLACK PROPAGANDA IS TO MAKE RACIST EUROPEANS FEEL BETTER AND JUSTIFIED IN THERE EVIL.. HISTORY PROVES THIS BS FALSE.
I love listening to you guys discuss the issue at hand. What is mindless is that there were a large contingent of Irish slaves. The Viking held slaves, Africans from different tribes enslaved their defeated enemies, as did the Mayans, Native Americans, the Aztecs. As my grandmother used to say.. Might makes right. Had little to do with colour.
My Irish side actually came though Quebec to avoid being enslaved. THIS is the actual history that we should have learned and to be learning in schools today! Ty for keeping the truth out there!!!
Completely agree that everyone held slaves. It was a different way of thinking. There is a bit of a myth about the Irish slaves in America though. But they were definately captured as were Scottish women and taken to Iceland. The vikings did a number on the british Isles and ireland. But the slaves in America thing, they were often repaying the debt of passage. However just like today a debt can be bought and sold. Unfortunately their debts often seemed to increase exponentially, trapping them. Some died before paying off their debt by unscrupulous persons. They were debt slaves if anything. The same happened to english Scottish and Welsh people, but when this corruption was rife a lot of irish people were travelling to America. Before that you had indentured servants (from all over the british isles). They worked off the price of passage or worked for a time period for a crime back home (often minor offences). Really these people were needed to set up succesful colonies. Its a great excuse for free labour I suppose. But it happened to irish people due to opportunistic individuals not because they were litteral slaves. But back then I'm not sure I wouldn't have thought 'it's too good to be true' either.
It always makes me laugh when people say, “no matter what it was was messed up that people were using slaves”, while sitting in their fancy homes buying Nike, adidas and other products manufactured by Chinese Communist Party owned slaves. Stop buying those sneakers, those hoodies, those cheap car parts, cheap electronics before saying, people in the past were messed up.
@sirprize.7472 0 seconds ago Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
A lot will greatly depend on your definition of "slave" as these are paid workers. Very poorly paid workers, which a lot are children. So slave, yes I can certainly see that the description fits. However this is still a far distance from the slaves of times gone by. Not that distinction in any way makes it right.
1.25+ million Europeans were enslaved in North Africa. Google 1. Sack of Baltimore Ireland and 2, Bombardment of Algiers (Slave rescue). The book White Gold worth a read
Found out that my 7th great grandfather was a slave owner. I've been trying to tell people but no one believed me. Thank you for doing this video. You learn alot when you do ancestry
2000 years ago the Roman empire took many, many slaves from the Celtic and Nordic tribes of northern Europe. They spread Latin culture north. Many of them fought as Gladiators in the coliseum Celtic peoples retreated to Scotland and Ireland to escape being squeezed between the Romans and the Nordic barbarians. The British Empire was the first superpower to take a stand against slavery. British people are a mixture of Celtic and Germanic peoples.
The Celtic people did not retreat to Ireland and Scotland., the Goidelic Celts were already in Ireland and oddly enough is was one of their tribes, the Scotti, who invaded modern day Scotland giving it its name, the Brythonic Celts of the south partially Romanised after the Roman invasion but on the whole were pushed nowhere, but some rebelling tribes were wiped out. The Nordic tribes (viking) didn't come to Britain until after the Germanic tribes of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes who invaded and or migrated after Rome left and pushed the Celts West and North as they created their own kingdoms but plenty of Celts stayed where they were and became assimilated into the peoples who eventually became the more unified Anglo-Saxons then when the Nordic "Vikings" came it further blended and topped of with the Normans evolved into English. Rome did use slaves for all the kingdoms they conquered and no doubt even further afield through trade, Britain did start the stand against the slave trade and then later against slavery itself in other counties as it was already illegal in Britain.
@@leroygreen6310 Agreed and no continent had just bad or just good slavery - all types existed everywhere at different times because some evil people have existed everywhere at all times.
What's the source material for the tic toc video textbooks?historical records or thefact that a white man said it we belive white scholars over our own 😂😂😂😂😂😂#SamboBehavior
Thank you for sharing this info and your feedback on this. It’s great to see young men digging into history and sharing that knowledge with the rest of us.
I love how you guys just cover topics that can be so taboo but you just get to the bottom of it and discuss it. Not argue without listening but truly discuss it. Great examples.
@@matthewcipcic7961yessss assigning specific races to the atrocity of slavery is a total moot point. 👍everyone living now are the descendants of slaves.
My Greatgrandmother, who was a creole free person of color, in the 1750’s had over 10 slaves. Her Mother and other ancestors were black slaves. This happened in New Orleans.
Yes they did. Owning another is never o.k. but again do your research as they Indians treated their slaves at better and the slave b had ba chance to n purchase themselves.
@@ApaleobloodlineWoman and children were the enslaved ( unless Man is sentenced to slavery) Women didn’t start receiving rights until emancipation 1863, then accepted in Law 1917 (14 amendment 19 amendment) all men over a certain maturity were considered a Free Man ( after servitude completed) no matter the hue of color!
Slavery is not derived from racism rather racism is derived from slavery. Edit: shoulda been more specific. I am not condoning racism or slavery simply stating the fact that long before racism was defined there was slavery. (In terms of slavery in the USA)
@@halbleavy9900 He is NOT defending slavery at all. Quite the opposite. It's the slvs whose ancestors organized the entire thing that are defending and using slvy as their end times weapon. Deut28:48-51. There is more to it than meets the eye.
There is a lot of hidden history when it comes to slavery in the U.S.. The percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. There is so very much more to tell. It can be difficult at times to find online because so much is very 'buried,' but there are many books that go into great depth and detail.
@@halbleavy9900 behind where? Today there’s 45 million slaves but not back them. Did you mean the African slaves sold to the Middle East by African tribes for a thousand years. Or the 1.5 million the northern Barbary pirated kidnapped from europe and while they’d ransom the men back but never the women. That what you meant
I’ve listened to stuff on Gaia TV where they talk intergalactic stuff and say that other planetary alien races consider earth a slave planet. In other words we’re all slaves to the elite. And who are the elite? The man/alien behind the curtain we never see? That’s the question.
Anthony Johnson not only was the first slave trader in the British/American colonies, but pushed laws to make "Slaves for life" think about that. Let that sink in.
Yes, I read about Johnson. Found on a captured Spanish galleon (where he had also been baptized into Cathlicism). Taken to America (Colonies). For passage payment, he was contracted out into indenture hood. It was commonplace for Ship Captains to create contracts for payment for passage and to sell the contract to whomever bought it once arrived. After his contract repaid after so may years of servitude, he was free and got land. He was very successful and acquired more land. The size of his land made him eligible for indentured servant(s). He had an indentured servant of color who ran away after he served to the end of his contract without that completion being recognized. Johnson refused to honor the contract and claimed his contract was still in effect. It went to court. Mind you, it was common practice for indentured servants to have their contracts extended due to acquired extra expenses or for bad behavior, conveniently. The indentured man, with the support/help of other kind folk, went to court to fight Mr. Johnson. Johnson won. The man was legally declared a servant/slave of Johnson's FOR LIFE. Heartbreaking and frustratingly sad.
In his autobiography, "The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave," Frederick Douglass gave a fascinating account of good vs. bad slave owners. If you haven't read it, it's an easy read and well worth your time. It's a book you'll never forget.
Thank you for the recommendation! I just posted recommending the book 12 Years A Slave by Solomon Northup. Northup was a free black man who was kidnapped and lived as a slave for 12 years, experiencing both a good and a bad slaveowner. The movie is not faithful to the book on this issue.
@@linzierogers5024 To sum it up, Douglas said he would rather have a good slave owner than a bad one, but at the end of the day, being owned by another man is intolerable - no matter how well they treat you.
@@MisteryMan2000 You could say its like the old saying "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. " But I say better yet no devil at all.
@@georgeluther7759 Again you claim others are cherry picking then go on to do just that yourself. I will remind you the vast majority of black slaves sold into slavery were sold by other black people. The fact they were sold by other black people means that there original slave-owners/masters were black. So as said how about you stop cherry picking the parts of the slave trade that suits your narrative!. The same can be said for White slaves, most not all were sold/taken into slavery by other white people, same go's for Asians etc etc etc across the world. .
Hello from Montana. Indentured servitude was normally for seven years or less. Ben Franklin was an indentured servant to his brother, while learning the printing business. Ben ran away before his time was up. The indenture could be voluntary ie. to pay back a loan, a lot of times for ship passage, or an apprenticeship. Keep up with the great videos.
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
I’m an Asian American recently subscribed to your channel after seeing your coverage on Vivek. I’m learning so much from you guys now….thank you for this video!
@@chadtodd4554 you’d have to be blind to not see that he’s been positioned by powerful people right now. If he was legit they wouldn’t give him any time at all. They fact that they do says it all.
In the Bible times, a person had a way to pay their debts when they had no money. It was being a slave to the debtor ( of course all it really meant is that a slave would work off the debt) then set free. It was a form of employment. The employer had to treat EVERYONE with dignity and generosity. They could not mistreat any person. So, it was never the color of a persons skin! God made all people and all nationalities. Unfortunately, as the Bible states, “man can not direct his own step” and certainly can not govern others. God didn’t make men to govern other men. Men made themselves into rulers.Yes, slavery is very old. It is against all of what the Bible teaches. The churches should have known this as they are somewhat to blame by not teaching the Bible and God’s standards. Thank you for playing this. I love watching you guys. You’re awesome!
THERES DIFFERENT TYPES OF SLAVERY.. CHATTEL IS THE WORST AND WAS CREATED BY ARABS AND EUROPEANS AND USED BIBLICALLY ON BLACK PEOPLE.. PLUS...EVER NOTICE THESE TYPE OF BLACK PEOPLE NEVER WATCH THE OPPOSITE OF THESE ANTI BLACK PROPAGANDA REVISIONIST RACIST EUROPEAN AMERICAN HISTORY VIDS.. WHERES THE REVIEW OF DR CLAUDE ANDERSON.. FARRAKHAN, The Great Dr Frances Cress Welsing, NEELY FULLER. ETC
he went to court to take the freedom away from another black man, made him a lifetime slave but you want to know if he treated him ok? i say no he didnt because he made him a lifetime slave
Exactly. Looks like the guys try to unsee this fact or justify Anthony's action. Keep in mind, guys, that Anthony could be worse owner than some other white owners. It happens a lot in life, regardless race etc.
@@OldSchooledand shipped over many more family members from Africa ..he got all the extra land under head scheme...not only that put all enslaved from than on were slaves for life or indentured for life.....Also his owner the guy were the fight happened between native Indians....he left him everything
@@ko0974 owning his wife and child was the only way to keep his family together. And then after he died because slavery was the “legal” and BLACKS were then not allowed to own… his acres of land, his son, and everything he achieved was taken away and given to the. Nearest white slave owner….
So because a black dude was trying make that money, owning slaves was okay? Owning his own damn son was okay? Buying more slaves was okay? Am I tripping or something or are the guys trying to make excuses for him, just cuz he was black? Am I on an alien planet or something? Slavery still = bad and evil, right? Wtf is happening? Hypocrisy at its finest.
The slave trade wasn’t just full of black slaves, there were slaves of every race. The word “slave” originated from Slavic’s, which was shorten to slave, and they were white.
English "slave": From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages. The Latin word is from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos), see that entry and Slav for more. Wiktionary The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the two words slave and Slav are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical. The word slave first appears in English around 1290, spelled sclave. The spelling is based on Old French esclave from Medieval Latin sclavus, "Slav, slave," first recorded around 800. Sclavus comes from Byzantine Greek sklabos (pronounced sklä′vōs) "Slav," which appears around 580. Sklavos approximates the Slavs' own name for themselves, the Slověnci, surviving in English Slovene and Slovenian. The spelling of English slave, closer to its original Slavic form, first appears in English in the 1500s. Slavs became slaves around the beginning of the ninth century when the Holy Roman Empire tried to stabilize a German-Slav frontier. By the 1100s, stabilization had given way to wars of expansion and extermination that did not end until 1410, when the Poles crushed the knights of the Teutonic Order at Grunwald in north-central Poland. · As far as the Slavs' own self-designation goes, its meaning is, understandably, better than "slave"; it comes from the Indo-European root *kleu-, whose basic meaning is "to hear" and occurs in many derivatives meaning "renown, fame." The Slavs are thus "the famous people." Slavic names ending in -slav incorporate the same word, such as Czech Bohu-slav, "God's fame," Russian Msti-slav, "vengeful fame," and Polish Stani-slaw, "famous for withstanding (enemies)." American Heritage Dictionary, 5th ed. Greetings from Tricity in Poland :-)
There were slaves mentioned throughout the Bible and these were mainly brown people. Slaves have existed since the beginning of human existence. it's all about power. Conquerors of all colours either killed or made slaves of people they conquered. Muslims to European slaves, Africans took African slaves, and also sold them to Europeans. .. and modern day slavery is rife in Africa and other parts of the world to this day
THATS A LOAD OF BS.. EVERY RACE AND YOU MENTION SOME WHAT IRISH IDENTUR4ED SLAVE.. THATS NOT CHATTEL SLAVERY NUT.. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT RACIAL BIBLICAL SLAVERY THEY TURNED INTO CHATTEL.
Glad you guys got individual microphones now. So much better to be able to hear you each individually without the echos affecting it when you all were conversing with each other.
History is brutal. It doesn't do anyone any good to pretend otherwise. I'm a new subscriber, but absolutely enjoy the thoughtful conversations y'all have. Also, thank you for the book recommendation. I'd love to hear y'all discuss the Harlem Renaissance.
@sirprize.7472 0 seconds ago Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
Regarding good versus bad slave owners - I recently read the book 12 Years a Slave, which I highly recommend. It was written in the 1850s or so - before the Civil War, but after the book Uncle Tom's Cabin, and it added to the debate over slavery. The author was a free black man living in New York State who was lured South and then kidnapped into slavery. It took him 12 years to get word to his family and (white) friends up North who worked to get him freed. In the book, the author was first held by a good slaveowner, and then sold to a very bad slaveowner. Along the way, he met both good and bad people (for example, the wife of the bad slaveowner was fairly decent, much better than her husband; and two whites, at different times, risked themselves to help get word to the author's friends and family up North). That's part of what is interesting about the book - the variety of experiences and people. Of course when Hollywood made the book into a movie, they turned the good slaveowner bad. Two key points are that 1) slavery is awful and wrong even with good slaveowners. The author said that (I'm paraphrasing from memory) more than half of the sting of slavery would have been removed if all owners had been like his first one. But more than half isn't nearly all. A person's choice and liberty is still taken from him. And 2) there's no safety, no protection when people don't have fundamental, inherent rights (such as to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"). Maybe your slaveowner will be good, but he may change or sell you or take a nasty wife. Similarly, under kings, maybe you have a good, benevolent and wise king, but he may turn bitter or the next king may be worse. Under communism, whether the Communist Party leaders are good or bad, you have no choice because you have no inherent rights. People shouldn't be owned by other people, or by the government, or by anyone. We need freedom and individual rights, not an owner, not even if it's a good owner.
12 Years a Slave was written by a white man as the guy on who the book is based couldn't read or write. The book is coloured with the authors tainted views which overshadow the subjects true story. Much of the dialogue in the book is made up....no black man at that time would use the 'n' word to describe his friends. So, the book cannot be trusted to give a proper account of life as a slave and its horrors.
Abolishing of slavery was a biblical/Christian moral and value... our nations founding was fully on biblical principles; all our rights, or freedoms, our laws, and founding documents were all based on Christianity; without it slavery never would've been Abolished or thought of as a bad thing or evil practice; everyone who says it was a bad thing dont realize that belief only exists per Christian founding of western nations... White Christian Republicans in the north were the first ppl in all world history to end slavery... US was among the nation's with the fewest slaves and of the few nations that best treated slaves... when ppl think of slavery they look for worse cases then equate that as the norm... many freed slaves took care of their former own and had full respect for them and absolutely would've preferred to be owned by them as opposed to other ppl or being returned to Africa where they could've suffered worse conditions... Slavery was of many forms not just cheap labor; as servitude was the only way to proper punish law breakers or ppl with extreme debt they couldn't pay; sides the usual conquered ppl choosing to be servants as opposed to kill or exiled from the lands... Everyone in jail today should be put to hard labor as it's unjust that we tax payers should have to pay 100k per year per person incarcerated; they should be working to pay their debts sides serving timeout...
Slavery has been abolished in Europe. Slavery dose exist today in Africa and other non white countries today. Yet they are still not satisfied today. They gave an option to go back to Africa created Liberia.
I thought the same thing reading Uncle Tom's Cabin as a child. And it is an excellent point that you made about slavery not just being in the micro form with individual slave owners but with governments and I would say even, mid-level organizations like unions. These are groups that compell obedience by open threat or slick manipulation.
@sirprize.7472 0 seconds ago Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
I encourage anyone who has ever called someone an ‘Uncle Tom’ in a derogatory way to research the man who inspired that book, Josiah Henson. His life story is one of courage, perseverance, and integrity. I know that word isn’t discussed in this video, but I just thought I would bring it up because it’s probably somewhere in the comments and it’s really heartbreaking to hear someone use that name as an insult, when the man who it’s named after was everything we should all hope to be.
@sirprize.7472 0 seconds ago Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
@@MCfact1827 C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Black slave magnate in Louisiana with over 100 slaves was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter whose estate was valued at $264, 000.
@mcfact1827 she is so well documented. You had to ask? Education is sh""t anymore. She was like Oprah in the day 😂😂 wow I'm Irish Scot. I now dub you Tipsy McStagger
So Anthony Johnson set the president in law from indentured servants to slaves for life, my Irish ancestors are always forgotten in American history yet we are expected to forget this glad you shared this knowledge
That's the thing. The more informed about our history you are, the more you see how much we've accomplished, how far we have come and how MUCH we have grown...for all we've been through. ❤️ It's a beautiful thing to experience. Learning about our country's history means learning about ourselves as individuals and as a national community unlike any other. We are who we are because of who we've been. And I for one am PROUD AS HELL my family has been part of this history. And I'm PROUD as hell to be part of this country...I only hope we make it through the Civil War we're in now, still intact. ❤️ Great vid, guys.
I'm learning shit with you guys I was never taught in school. Some of it I knew but some of it I never heard of. So many people are learning with you guys. This channel has become an educational place I come to to learn. Your conversations make it even better.
It was more primitive times but the great thing about humanity is, it eventually strives to do better. History should not be forgotten, nor erased or torn down. It serves as a reminder of past mistakes by every race & creed. More of these past truths need to be exposed to allow all to better understand our history.
I am so glad that this was a topic of conversation. Thank you for helping to make America great again. You're all great role models! Love your channel, and I always look forward to new episodes.
@sirprize.7472 0 seconds ago Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
I'm white and I saw in my family history that some of my ancestors were indentured servants. It was actually not uncommon for many settlers to become indentured servants. They volunteered to be indentured servants in order to come to America. The wealthy master would provide a way to the United States and would feed and house the indentured servants. It costs a lot of money to take care of another person. The servant would agree to work for the master for usually 7 years and then the master would give them free land. That's how many indentured servants became successful and could live the American dream. Slavery on the other hand was mostly bad but not all. Some slaves were treated better than others but overall it was an awful and horrific time in our history.
There are historical accounts that not all indentured servants were voluntary. Others were swept up off of the streets asylums and angelle's and sold off for their period of indenture which they did not always survive. Some people delivered to the colonies indentured workers (not just house servants) were very small children of unknown parentage
And they did not GIVE THEM free land. They were made 'Share Croppers' this could be as much as 75% of your crops went to the land owner. Many could not survive or had to have many children to work their place while the men went and worked for others to earn cash to make up for the family.
@@Smoothoperator65 In the Bible a slave was someone who worked for free. Not all slaves were mistreated. That being said, I would never want to be one. Unfortunately, most slaves were horribly treated especially those in early America.
We all need to research history and question what we've been taught, not just on this topic, but EVERYTHING. The Internet is a helpful tool, but still things are censored. We really have been kept in the dark. Anyone else angry?😡
No. Because I was born before Google and know my history from family and traveling. I feel sorry for your generation ( I assume you're very young because you seem to think GOOGLE IS IT everything ALL. 😂 oh dear 😮
Do not forget Anthony was living in Maryland and died there resulting in his property being given to his wealthy white neighbor. He initially attained his freedom and became wealthy in neighboring Virginia. Originally, the states saw themselves as very separate entities from other states and the United States. The laws could also be very different - more so than today - from one state to another. One big question in my mind is this: would his son have inherited his property if Anthony had remained in Virginia? Remember, the ruling saying his Don could not inherit his property was greatly affected because Anthony and his household were NOT citizens in Maryland but Anthony and his wife were apparently considered citizens in Virginia (if I remember correctly.) Is it possible Anthony’s son could have inherited his property if the family had remained in Virginia, which seems to have been more egalitarian, instead of moving to Maryland? Again, I’m no historian but I think it’s a question worth investigation instead of drawing broader conclusions and applying the laws of Maryland to all the colonies.
It would be with the US Constitution that America firmly inherits responsibility by NOT emancipating slaves. Thus the very wording of that document tells you who is and isn't a citizen. Natives, Blacks and Indentured Servants.
Scotland was not in the UK so not responsible. Daneland was not in England. Etc. I agree with you. Each of the Colonies had charters which kept them decentralized from one another. This period though not American is still tied to the history and progress of time in this land. The successors did no justice in the Constitution and delayed emancipation to promote a larger nation to resist foreign powers. @@HeyYallTryThis
@@limonesycafe8898Not surprising. Anthony Johnson purchased his servant from a white person. He was actually the first Black to own one, not the first owner. This issue is a disgusting gaslight.
You guys are doing great 👍🏻 at least presenting some food for thought for everyone out there. As a 34 year old white guy from southeast Missouri, I can tell you there is definitely black vs white racism around. But I also grew up knowing that everyone should be treated equally. There are polar opposites everywhere, and they’ve been highlighted in recent years. I think we can do this though (all together) and you guys nailed this one. I’m pretty much an eternal pessimist about the outcome of humanity, but in a very optimistic way 🤔😏. Long story short, we all have to think positively and begin to build a better future. The past seems to have sucked for pretty much everyone (every culture) for one reason or another. The irony is we’re more advanced than ever as a species, and it all comes down to age-old human bullshit. Just hatred for being different. Weird. But thank you guys again for pushing the envelope ✌🏻
I believe the divide between white indentured servants being able to but their freedom and black indentured servants being slaves for life happened after Bacon’s Rebellion. White indentured servants and black indentured servants worked together during the Rebellion and in order to prevent black and white indentured servants from working together to overthrow the establishment. They were divided into those who could earn/buy their freedom and those who could not.
Also shortly after the Bacon Rebellion in 1676, is when interracial marriages were made illegal by the British governors in America. It would be 100 yrs later, in 1776, the Revolution took place.
@@voidtempering8700 Depends on how many slaves became free blacks due to buying or Wills of the owners. Not sure if it was a small minority of free blacks or not. I know that the history of the free black population in the South is an obscure part of American history.
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
Two cases often get cited as the first. The distinction between the two is one was a civil case and one was a punishment for breaking a contract (don’t forget though many were forced into contracts that they never agreed to in the first place). At first an indentured servant, John Punch (in 1640) is on record as becoming the first słave in the North Amerícan colonies (John Punch was Błack). Mr Punch was sentenced to life servitude. After first fleeing to another state and being returned before his índentured contract was up. Thus, Hugh Gwyn, the man who owned John Punch, would be the first known słaveholder on record in North American colonies (Hugh Gwyn was whíte). It’s important to understand that most laborers came to the new colony as índentured servants (yes, this meant whíte laborers too). Not all of them did so by choice, as many people today incorrectly believe. Nor were all freed upon the agreed end of their contract. One way this happened was through clauses in the contracts, which allowed the contracts to be resold to someone else without deducting years already served (this was done without the consent of the indentured servant). Another was clauses in the contract that extended the service if a female became pregnant. Which was then exploited by forcing the women to get pregnant and keep them pregnant. This could very well result in extending the years of service, till the female indentured servants could no longer outlive the end of their contract terms. Another turning point in słavery was the story of Anthony Johnson. Anthony Johnson (a free man, once indentured himself) is on record as being the first person to sue in a civil case for the right to own another man (John Casor) for life. He sued Robert Parker for the rights to own John Casor (whom was once an indentured servant of his but now under indentured servant contract to Robert Parker). Anthony Johnson initially lost the case but on appeal (in 1655) won the right to own Casor for life (Johnson and Casor were both Błack, that is the owner and the słave both were Błack). While John Casor was the first person declared a słave in a civil case. There were both błack and whíte indentured servants sentenced, or condemned by contract extension, to lifetime servitude before 1655. Often they were sentenced due to being accused of (and found guilty of) breaking the law. Sometimes as already mentioned, they were held for life directly by the contract holder themselves as a result of the terms and clauses in their contract Again, the distinction between the two is one was a civil case and one was a punishment for breaking a contract (don’t forget though many both błack and whíte were forced into contracts that they never agreed to in the first place).
This all sounds incredibly jewish to me. Knowing they largely ran, owned and operated the entire slave trade the ridiculous contracts left open for abuse makes sense. Blacks were seen as property while the whites were slaves via contracts.
A pregnancy of an indentured woman was considered an extra expense, a loss in productivity, along with the then dependent child which resulted in extra years of servitude. There were also children in mass shipped to the British Colonies. A law was created in England that if you were picked up for begging, etc., that with 2 signatures they could place you on a ship bound to the Colonies as a indentured servant. Plus, people were tricked into indenture hood often. They would pay for their passage including meals. By the time they arrived, they were told they had extra expenses and asked to pay in order to disembark. Rotten, rancid and bug infested food was not discarded from previous journeys. If you wanted better food, you eventually paid. If they could not, a contract was created. The contract would be sold. More $$$. Human life was a commodity. Abuse and greed was rampant.
@@troyhailey Many historíans don’t all agree about this subject.. but that’s true of most every subject in history. The argument is it was índentured servitude and that’s not the same. However, that’s not what it actually was in real world practice. The Irish were beat3n, had their lands taken, many were førced into service, førced to wørk, forced from their homełand, their wømen rap3d, their chíldren sołd and many were kílled (or had their contracts extended till they dīed). That is in fact słavery, even if they called it something else. Here are a couple qoutes with references: “In theory, the person is only selling his or her labor. In practice, however, indentured servants were basically slaves and the courts enforced the laws that made it so. The treatment of the servant was harsh and often brutal. In fact, the Virginia Colony prescribed “bodily punishment for not heeding the commands of the master.” (Ballagh, 45) Half the servants died in the first two years. As a result of this type of treatment, runaways were frequent. The courts realized this was a problem and started to demand that everyone have identification and travel papers. (A.E. Smith 264-270).” - Deanna Barker, Frontier Resources That’s half in just two years, while other sources claim it was half in total or less around 1/3. Yet, other sources say it was 60% that díed (or were kílled). “Only about 40 percent of índentured servants lived to complete the terms of their contracts. Female servants were often the subject of harassmeñt from their masters. A woman who became pregnant while a servant often had years tacked on to the end of her service time.” - UShistory(dot)org 5b. Indentured Servants By “harassmènt” they mean rap3d.
@@troyhailey Also, it’s not “víctim” mentality to acknowledge history, it becomes victím mentałity when someone thinks they personally suffered because their ancestørs did (which is absurd). Thanks for sharing and providing more information on the subject. I do agree that the “chatteł słavery” precedent is also a very important distinction.
I enjoy watching the videos you produce. It is interesting to me to observe your thought processes and conversations. It is also encouraging to this old guy to watch you young men have open, thoughtful, and honest discussions on so many topics.
Because we are talking about AMERICA, not some other country. Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That's what this country was supposedly built on. Yet they enslaved a race of people. Can you not see the contradiction.
@ericwarner3150....becuase white people do not want to let it go.....true slavery has existed since humans walked the planet, that's not the real issue, the real issue is acceptance in the United States as a Black person if you ever read history and slavery in every society when a slave won his freedom that person was allowed to join society as a regular citizen, in the United States Government had to pass bills to force European Americans to allow African Americans to live like normal citizens....you take time and think about that stupid comment you just posted...
@@melshome6745 slavery existed in every nation in all history... white ppl were the most enslaved in all world history and white Christian Republicans in the north were the first to end it... abolishing of slavery was and is a biblical Christian moral and value as is our nations founding; what our rights were based on, our freedoms, and our laws... if not not democrat slave owners in the south slavery would've ended when we gained our independence; as ending it then would've meant civil war thus US would've ended and slavery never would've been Abolished... if US ended slavery too early and had an earlier CW then the British, French, Spanish, or Portuguese would've taken us over... All races were slaves and slave owners in US and the world... before blacks white ppl were the most enslaved in the US... slavery existed and still exists in Africa today and it was because of black tribes capturing, enslaving, and selling weaker black tribes to the Portuguese for small trinkets that black ppl became the majority of slaves in the US; still US had 400k slaves at hight of US slave history which means the US was of the nation's with the fewest slaves in the world at that time as south America and Islamic Mideast took in millions more... slaves in US were also among the best treated in the whole world to the point many freed slaves stayed with and/or took care of former owners per how well they were treated... white ppl were among the last ppl in the US to be freed after J19 thus J19 shouldn't be a black only celebration for ppl who want to celebrate something so dumb... There are more slaves in Africa today than in all North and South American history combined... slavery existed in many forms not just forced labor against ppls will... slavery was mainly about economics not race and as explained black ppl became the majority because black Africans tribes sold them cheap... Treatment of slaves in other nations and in Africa is why over 95% of freed slaves Refused reparations per they did not want to return to their nation of origin thus any arguments for reparations in today have no merit as any actual descendant has no claim per their ancestors Refused it when it was offered at a time it would've only made sense; sides the fact there is no legal grounds to offer reparations to freed slaves yet US gov per Christian morals felt it was necessary to offer; again it was Refused by the freed slaves... Mohammed Ali's grand father was one of many prime example of how well many black slaves were treated and his grandfather chose the last name Clay in honor of his white slave owner... MA after falling fir Islamic propaganda changed his last name to Mohammed as he said "Clay is a white man's name" and he associated the name with white slavery inspite of doing so is a dishonor to his grandfather... Mohammed is the Muslim "prophet" who is a white man and who owned many slaves including blacks and he encouraged his followers to enslave others especially blacks thus why Muslims are responsible for the most slaves in history and the most black slaves... You are just as hypocritical and ignorant as MA with your ignorant understanding of slavery, black slavery, and history in general... maybe it's about time you actually start to educate yourself and learn real history not the woke leftist, democrat, black history
It's not a inconvenient truth. Anyone with a brain knows you can't go to a foreign country and start snatching inhabitants without any repercussions, Africans had kings and those kings had slaves and once a business agreement was made that would benefit both sides the slave trade STARTED!! ONLY A fool would think a feeble european could snatch a African and make him a slave!
I had no idea and I'm almost 45... I learn along with y'all and the others I follow for reactions. I'm thankful to have grown up in the 80s and 90s (born in 78) and we really didn't have any issues with color either way and now we, being myself and classmates and middle aged, cry at some of the things we see today that was already fought before we were born, and we're thankful that our youth like you guys and even younger have this information at your fingertips and are helping our future generations stay united as brothers and sisters and I thank you.
Back then maybe everything wasn't great and it wasn't only the races. Not long before that women had to quit their jobs at some companies if they got married and you either lied about it or quit. So if people now say certain things that were bad then that might be and probably was true but people had hope and real progress was being made. It was just a mindset that things were really getting better and you really thought...in 10 years all this nonsense will be behind us but things are going the exact opposite way now. It's sad.
These guys need to know how to get real sources. Academic sources and not google. Anthony Johnson was a slave owner later meaning he could have been buying slaves back to keep families together or relatives, then they would stay and work his land instead of being forced into harsh conditions. Slavery wasn't forced and harsh when it started out,
@@SkoolofskillsInc or not. Why imagine things. He was far from the only one. It's a nice idea and maybe different races did that but we really don't know.
@@orange222... When you/we are talking about things like this: You need to source up. One can't get information off google and say it's facts. Old books, old government records, University resources. Wikipedia have a little bit more of the story than what these guys are saying. Wikipedia: Anthony Johnson (colonist)
Great reaction video!! I learned some new history myself, gentlemen, and I thank you for that. I enjoy listening and watching you "work it out" among yourselves! Will you all be reacting to any music videos anytime soon? I love those, too!! Thank you for being such exemplary mentors to those around you, and especially, to the younger generations behind you!!!❤️🙏❤️💕
My first friend growing up was a black girl down the street, i looked up to her dad as a second father. Our families shared Christmas and Thanksgiving together, but once we entered school, she wanted nothing to do with me. I confronted her once and asked her why we weren't playing with each other anymore, and she told me, "Other kids pick on me for having a white friend." Im biracial, but my complexion is more peach colored than my twins' darker skin tone. I lost a friend because i looked white to others, and white equals bad, i guess.
Indeed, racism along with many other "prejudices" works multiple ways! I, being a white girl, experienced being called a white cracker when I was just a little girl playing with a black friend, but at the time I didn't understand that was a bad thing since I liked crackers. Seriously!! It wasn't until I repeated what I was called when I was talking about my playtime that I discovered it was a derogatory term and my friend would later get in trouble for playing with this white cracker. I chose to ignore stupidity and thankfully I had parents that allowed me to pick my friends so race was never ever an issue. Even when the first Iranian started school with us. I heard the whispers and all the questions but as kids we didn't know why. Ignorant adults are bad, not skin color.
Love that you’re exposing the truth behind this sensitive subject. Most people also don’t know (because we weren’t taught in school “Programming”) that the words “Slave” originated from the word “Slav”, as in “Slavic” (aka white Europeans) who were enslaved by other Slavic people. There were slaves in every country, culture, & race all over the world. Since this is America we are only taught about partial truths, & the Irish & European slaves who were brought here are often left out of “history”. There is a saying that whoever wins the war, gets to rewrite history, & it happens all the time, & not just after wars. It’s just a fact that whoever has the power at the time can decide what’s real & what’s forgotten to time…
Love your videos for many reasons. I love that you actually listen to what you are learning about and don’t constantly stop a video. We are all learning together. Hearing your thoughts is important and also shows and I know this is hard for liberals to understand even if you are of the same you race you can have differing opinions. I know shocking 😮. All of your videos are entertaining, educational and relevant for all people. I pray nothing but good things coming your way. I’d love to see you guys do something with people like Crowder, Dan Bongino, Brandon Tatum, Tucker etc … those that aren’t held down by some mainstream network but someone who can get you in front of even more people. If you’d want that of course. I just think you guys are awesome and deserve and have earned great opportunities.
When George Washington was going to free his slaves, the slaves asked him not too. They received apparently protection and good treatment from the family. Not condoning slavery just saying nuance
Cause they knew, that a lot of "freed slaves" were captured and sold on again, so better stay safe where you are treated at least okay, then having to face such dangers
Finally thank You.....i am tired of not knowing our history. Thomas Jefferson I think sent boats to Africa to safe people from the pirates and slavery.
Thank you for sharing this information with us. I always am open to learning more about history. And you guys have a good perspective of what you are learning. I also learned what Motion means. How interesting your videos are. This is a perspective of a 54year old white Lady🥰!!!!
Love these guys. Intelligent thoughtful conversation. Good young Americans. Hope they run for office someday. Their what this country needs as far as far as research dialog and listening.
My grandfather was an indentured servant. He didn't know how old he was at the time he was taken and put into slavery as a small child, he only knew his name was Walter Fred. He was Irish and was part of the children that were sold into slavery from England and Irland.
One of my ancestors was sent to America as an Irish criminal for being the wrong religion. His wife died and it was illegal for him to bury her or NOT bury her. His home still exists in Ireland but he was sent here in the early 1700s.
@@devPunks being taken and sold = a slave. Sure some was able to buy their freedom. BUT...A lot of "indentured servants" was never able to buy their freedom because the "boss" would tack on more time because they would claim they broke something or did something. The "boss" would also marry them off so they could procreate and the "boss" would get more "indentured servants" because of the expenses involved. Indentured Servitude is still a form of slavery.
@@Beth0626 not in the United States history it is not. What you are NOT gonna do is conflate extremely well documented history with how "Indentured Servants" were in say Africa. There were no "Irish slaves" who were emancipated during the Civil War. And Insurance companies like AIG would not insure Indentureed Slaves as if they were Chattel. Gotta cut it out with the "feelings" and speculation. This stuff is WELL DOCUMENTED from state to state. Sounds to me like you haven't done your own geneology (let alone American History). #ProTip: you won't find your (specific) ancestors) in the bottom of a spit cup.
Human history is replete with misery and inequality. Brutality, hunger, powerlessness are all the hallmarks of how this planet existed. No one can claim exemption. There are 'winners and there are 'losers'. Most peoples' ancestors were in the thick of the struggle and were losers.
My sixth great grandparents Came to the US during the Colonial period from England. They were free blacks. They were a large wealthy family. They settled in South Carolina then moved on at some point to Louisiana and then on to Texas. They were the James Ashworth family, and were wealthy land owners.
Hey Cartiers! Actually, I learned abt. all this content in school, 4th, or 5th grade, may have been both, I had super great teachers in both those grades. There’s much history that is no longer taught in school. I’ve been out for over 30 yrs., and I reviewed all of my sons history books, when they went thru the same school as I did, except for three years I spent in Ohio, on a job, then back to the same house, community, and their school again. Their history books had far less content, many more pictures. I questioned why, and one of the teachers said they, (literature / book writers, printers and distributors), moved that type of content to college level history. Well, wha’daya know?! How convenient. Then, if a student don’t choose to go to college, or goes, but don’t take history…they aren’t exposed to this and a whole lot more material and subject matter, that I believe is intentionally left out now. It doesn’t fit their narrative, or their agenda. They aren’t “teaching” as much as they are indoctrinating students. It’s really so sad. But, parents can still ensure their children get the exposure to real history, by acquiring books, thru purchasing, or library sources, and requiring u‘r children to read and review with you. Not perfect, but it works Great vid, great reaction, @Cartiers! later
I learned that the first black slaves were taken from Angola by the Portuguese. They were sold in Virginia to tobacco farmers. So this was interesting to hear.
The first black slaves brought to nothern america, yes, but long before that, blacks were selling other blacks within africa. If you're really interested, look for Dahomey, kingdom and their history - bet you'll be surprised
What you learned is not correct. Slaves were being ship West before Virgina became a colony. Slaves were taken from Africa by the Asiatic Arabs as early as 600 AD. There is some truth to your comment, the Portuguese were the first Europeans to get involved with the African slave trade.
As an Irish American who’s ancestors were slaves, it’s crazy to us now, but most of my research has shown that it was a way of life, when some were freed they went back to their owners because of the security they had with food and shelter. When they spoke of their masters MOST of the time they spoke highly of them and said they were out much earlier in the morning than the workers. One recording of a lady that was a slave said her masters worked harder than anyone on the farm
The Irish were not slaves and it was actually a law that if a Irish woman had a child by a black man the woman would be enslaved for life so there was a big difference between being a black slave and an Irish indentured person. Slavery for black people meant a life-time and their children as well. Irish people's children were not slaves.
Worked harder where? Which plantation? Why did she have to work harder if the African was already present with the initial arrivals of ships who were working as slaves for a lifetime and their generations?
White European history don't even record the existence of White Irish slaves. The United Kingdom (UK) is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. So you mean to tell me that the UK which includes Ireland has no historic record of Irish slaves in the New World?
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
You guys need to go to the slavery museum in Charleston, S.C. It will show you that only 5% of all sub-Sahara slaves trading came to what would be the USA. At the time, Florida was Spanish, the Mississippi Delta area, huge area, was French and the East Coast British. All had slaves. The USA was by far the furthest distance they were sent. Thus, more expensive. In South 20:25 America , slaves were cheap and literally worked to death. Slave families far more rare due to death rates and owner ruthlessness. Similarly, with the Caribbean islands. Worked to death, poor hygiene and living conditions. In the USA area, slaves, being more valuable, got better treatment. You’ve probably seen slave quarters in former plantations. Not wonderful, but similar to Elvis’ birth house in Tupelo. Better than my very white father lived in for awhile, living in a chicken coop, and my German immigrant family, living in a hole in the ground that they themselves excavated, living there for 7 years before they had the resources to build a house. I’m not saying slavery was good. Never. However, if you were one of the lucky of the unlucky 5% sent to North America, you likely lived in a structure like a cabin, crammed in with your family, which you were allowed to have, were able to work overtime outside your slave gig and eventually buy your freedom. Your owner had incentive to keep you alive, healthy and not belligerent. Many were freed in owners’ wills. Again, slavery sucked and still sucks, but the USA wasn’t the most evil or dangerous place a slave could land, as much as some would want you to believe otherwise.
If anyone of these four young men, "The CartierFamily" come across this comment please do your research and redo this video. Anthony Johnson was not the first slaveowner in America. The first slaveowner in America was a White man by the name of Hugh Gwyn. The first slave in America name was John Punch owned by Hugh Gwyn.
@@gusto8069 Hugh Gwyn had an indentured negro servant named John Punch. John Punch attempted to escape from Virginia to Maryland and was sentenced on July 19th, 1640, by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve the remainder of his natural life as a slave. Both John Punch and John Casor servitudes were decided by court rulings in Virginia. The rulings gave both their masters permanent ownership of the men. John Punch was the first documented person that was deemed by a court of law to serve as a permanent servitude in America. Thus, John punch became the first slave on record in America and Hugh Gwyn the slaveowner.
Indeed in cases it was but we do not know to what degree in all cases, just like today if you watch the news as an outsider to this planet you would think all we do is kill, beat, steal, blow up and rape - how often do you see positive stories being reported? I am not saying life was great for the majority just that it also wasn't all like the extreme, after all this was valuable property to the owners so surely they weren't whipping everyone to within and inch of their life and chopping off their right foot thereby losing money. Some slaves and indentured servants were treated horrifically, some were treated well and the majority no doubt spread out somewhere in between, slavery was still wrong no matter how they were treated.
That was reality in all societies, the poor were considered inferior and treated very badly as subsistence farmers in Europe previously serfs/peasants. Poor were always slaves to chiefs, Lords, etc. They could order all men to go to war, there was no choice, the poor were never free. The word Slave comes from the Slavic peoples of Europe. "In the 9th century, Slavs were frequently targeted and enslaved by tribes from the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa, and the Latin word sklava, meaning both "Slavonic" and "captive," was born"
According to Thomas Sowell, many black slave owners were known to be more cruel than white slave owners. Also, a good example of one who was kind was Ulysses S. Grant. He was criticized by others for not beating his slaves, as was the custom. He got down in the trenches and worked with them, which was practically unheard of. Also, between the Mexican-American war and the Civil War he went back to his life and was basically poor. At a time when his slave was pretty much the most valuable "asset" that he had, he freed him. Upon condition of surrender during the Civil War, he made it a point to require the southern officers to surrender their property, knowing full well that the term used also required them to surrender (ergo: free) their slaves.
Well since you think being enslaved wasn't so bad, maybe you should offer up yourself as someone's property to be bought and sold on a whim with no say. You could happily sing in the fields in the hot and humid south and thank your massa everyday for being kind and benevolent.
@@melshome6745 Tell me where I said that. You won't find it anywhere, so get over yourself. I was addressing comments that they were making during the course of the video. History can be messy, and not everything is cut and dry. They made comments and expressed curiosity as to how/if the black slave owners were kind(er) to the slaves or not. Historically/Factually there's documentation that many were worse. There's also documentation that some white slave owners were not cruel. I provided an example of U.S. Grant. Stop being poised and ready for a fight where there is none. I'm sure it's probably exhausting. There's no fight to be had here.
@@ksullivan7345 i'm speaking about how people are trying to make like slavery wasn't so bad. They want to teach children that slaves learned skills. They are trying to whitewash history. The narrative is that "slavery was bad but really some slaves had it good" So black people should stop complaining and stop with the reparations. You can quote Sowell who at every turn tries to appease white people saying that black people are really the slave owners. By the way the first slave owner was not a black man but I guess it easier to sleep at night thinking that. .
@@melshome6745I'm a slave in this country All the work I do the government takes half my money to give to people that aren't working I don't mind helping people out but I don't like people taking my money I'm a free man and we're none of us are free we're enslaved to the billionaires of this country get over it I'm gay You think you're the only one that's been mistreated in this country that's racist I got news for you You should hear some of my stories but you don't care All you care is about black people that's racist Open your eyes take your racist goggles off and look at the world the way it is and the way you instead of how you want it to be You can't rewrite history You my friend are a racist
Anthony Johnson was not the first slaveholder in America. The first slaveholder was Hugh Gwyn, a wealthy White landowner in Virginia. Hugh Gwyn had an indentured negro servant named John Punch. John Punch attempted to escape from Virginia to Maryland and was sentenced on July 19th, 1640, by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve the remainder of his natural life as a slave. Thus, John punch became the first slave on record in America and Hugh Gwyn was his owner.
Hugh was only granted lifetime ownership of one individual slave. Anthony Johnson made it where all slavers could buy and own unlimited people. Not quite the same thing here.
@@adamprice3466 I posted this below 13 hours ago. Please look it up the two articles. Ok .... let's look up the truth about Anthony Johnson put these 2 articles in your browser "The Curious History of Anthony Johnson: From Captive African to Right-wing Talking Point" "We and They in Colonial America Facing History & Ourselves" **Spoiler Alert Also in these articles you will find that Hugh Gwyn (a whyt guy) was the first slave owner.
During reconstruction there were over 1500 black men who held political office. What happened you ask? Well the compromise of 1877 which effectively ended reconstruction. After that the Southern states are free to do as they please which is to codify and enforce segregation and stop blacks from voting. I hope you were taught about how black people were treated in the south from 1877 to 1967. (the klan, lynchings etc)
The world has gotten better. During the industrial revolution the use of orphans and poor children were put to work in the factories and mines, children were often preferred as employees, because owners viewed them as more manageable, cheap labor. Very few government regulations on working conditions and hours. Children often had to work under very dangerous conditions.
The Irish were the first slaves, but no one ever talks about it. This showed a very little of it. Bars back then were called Public Houses, now we say Pubs. Anyway, you will sometimes walk into bars (Irish Bars) and they still have the signs that read “Niggers Welcomed, Irish Need Not Apply.” Blacks were offered jobs before Irish people. True story. Look into it. Americans need to go back to teaching Civics and real History about everything. The more we know about all of our history, the better we will be for it. Thank you guys for this channel. I enjoy watching it. God Bless.❤
The Irish were not the first slaves. But, they may well have been the first slaves in the US. Slavery has always been with us AND STILL IS! The African continent has and still is a hotbed of slavery. To be fair in past times if you went to war with your neighbour, as the victor you had only two choices, kill everyone, or enslave the “best and most useful”, bring them home and integrate their offspring into your tribe , or trade them on to labour hungry peoples from far away.( you didn’t want them too close, in case they made their way home to make more trouble in the future. Other than by trade slaves could be “harvested from coastal areas and sold on at great profit. This is why “Slaves”are called Slaves. The word comes from “Slaves” and of course were white.
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It’s not about black versus white it’s about good versus evil
you must be watching jesse lee peterson like me!
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Amen!
My grandma said racism isn't the real issue. her grandfather was a slave and she said classism had a bigger impact on our people.
Exaclty, rich vs. poor - look at india, they sill have the caste system and that's the worst thing a society can have and uphold
Very good point, i.e. truth!
It's still happening today!! Look at India's caste system. You can literally purchase a young girl for a couple hundred U.S. dollars in their pre-teens to teens, from a family in the lowest rung of the caste system. That's so f--ked up!!!
It has always been class. But, they know they won't fix that issue, so they use race because they knew they could. Glad some see the holes in that argument.
And that’s why they killed Kennedy , MLK and John Lennon because they were trying to end the class system. Anyone who try’s to unite us at the bottom end up dead.
Bros there's still slavery today in a lot of countries
Yes it’s now on the children and so sad
Especially china making Nike shoes irony upon a long list
@@TruthGirlBoss not just children... adults too
Like America which has more prison inmates then anywhere on earth.
Libya, thanks to Obamas/Hillary's illegal war is now so far gone they have open markets.
“My people perish for lack of knowledge” says The Lord. How true! Knowing the truth sets us free. Kudos to you guys for sharing this!
AMERICA WAS BUILT AND IS RAN ON A RACIAL CAST SYSTEM.. ALSO...HOW CAN BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SLAVES WHEN THEY NEVER HAD RIGHTS TIL 1965...THIS ANTI BLACK PROPAGANDA IS TO MAKE RACIST EUROPEANS FEEL BETTER AND JUSTIFIED IN THERE EVIL.. HISTORY PROVES THIS BS FALSE.
But this video is inaccurate.
I love listening to you guys discuss the issue at hand. What is mindless is that there were a large contingent of Irish slaves. The Viking held slaves, Africans from different tribes enslaved their defeated enemies, as did the Mayans, Native Americans, the Aztecs. As my grandmother used to say.. Might makes right. Had little to do with colour.
Dublin, Ireland was THE slave market in Europe & ruled by the Vikings for 300 years.
My Irish side actually came though Quebec to avoid being enslaved. THIS is the actual history that we should have learned and to be learning in schools today! Ty for keeping the truth out there!!!
Completely agree that everyone held slaves. It was a different way of thinking.
There is a bit of a myth about the Irish slaves in America though. But they were definately captured as were Scottish women and taken to Iceland. The vikings did a number on the british Isles and ireland. But the slaves in America thing, they were often repaying the debt of passage. However just like today a debt can be bought and sold. Unfortunately their debts often seemed to increase exponentially, trapping them. Some died before paying off their debt by unscrupulous persons. They were debt slaves if anything. The same happened to english Scottish and Welsh people, but when this corruption was rife a lot of irish people were travelling to America. Before that you had indentured servants (from all over the british isles). They worked off the price of passage or worked for a time period for a crime back home (often minor offences). Really these people were needed to set up succesful colonies. Its a great excuse for free labour I suppose. But it happened to irish people due to opportunistic individuals not because they were litteral slaves. But back then I'm not sure I wouldn't have thought 'it's too good to be true' either.
Listening to stupid low iq boys? 😂😂😂
This is very convenient.
There's a good reason why there are "no" ugly Scandinavians today! 😅
It always makes me laugh when people say, “no matter what it was was messed up that people were using slaves”, while sitting in their fancy homes buying Nike, adidas and other products manufactured by Chinese Communist Party owned slaves.
Stop buying those sneakers, those hoodies, those cheap car parts, cheap electronics before saying, people in the past were messed up.
Yep
Exactly. They are not just buying Nike, they are loving it like it's their God and they absolutely don't care how it is made.
And funny enough Nike and hoodies are very popular among the black community.
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Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
A lot will greatly depend on your definition of "slave" as these are paid workers. Very poorly paid workers, which a lot are children. So slave, yes I can certainly see that the description fits. However this is still a far distance from the slaves of times gone by. Not that distinction in any way makes it right.
" History isn't forgotten , It's purposely edited. " Me 2023
T R U T H !!!!!
OTRAITOR paid millions to have textbooks changed and hot a book deal out of it.🤬
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." ― George Orwell, 1984
1.25+ million Europeans were enslaved in North Africa. Google 1. Sack of Baltimore Ireland and 2, Bombardment of Algiers (Slave rescue). The book White Gold worth a read
@@battleisreal6593 Yes, using our tax dollars. Heritage foundation.
Found out that my 7th great grandfather was a slave owner. I've been trying to tell people but no one believed me. Thank you for doing this video. You learn alot when you do ancestry
Pay me my reparations 😂😂😂😂
was he a white man? Did his black slaves inherit his wealth
2000 years ago the Roman empire took many, many slaves from the Celtic and Nordic tribes of northern Europe. They spread Latin culture north. Many of them fought as Gladiators in the coliseum
Celtic peoples retreated to Scotland and Ireland to escape being squeezed between the Romans and the Nordic barbarians.
The British Empire was the first superpower to take a stand against slavery. British people are a mixture of Celtic and Germanic peoples.
Not only of the norse, but also of eastern slavs ... It's good that you wrote "british", cause the english back then were mainly germanic ;-)
So what makes no difference in regard to the transatlantic slave trade
The Celtic people did not retreat to Ireland and Scotland., the Goidelic Celts were already in Ireland and oddly enough is was one of their tribes, the Scotti, who invaded modern day Scotland giving it its name, the Brythonic Celts of the south partially Romanised after the Roman invasion but on the whole were pushed nowhere, but some rebelling tribes were wiped out. The Nordic tribes (viking) didn't come to Britain until after the Germanic tribes of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes who invaded and or migrated after Rome left and pushed the Celts West and North as they created their own kingdoms but plenty of Celts stayed where they were and became assimilated into the peoples who eventually became the more unified Anglo-Saxons then when the Nordic "Vikings" came it further blended and topped of with the Normans evolved into English.
Rome did use slaves for all the kingdoms they conquered and no doubt even further afield through trade, Britain did start the stand against the slave trade and then later against slavery itself in other counties as it was already illegal in Britain.
@@anthonyjames2021 All slavery is NOT created equal.
@@leroygreen6310 Agreed and no continent had just bad or just good slavery - all types existed everywhere at different times because some evil people have existed everywhere at all times.
I like how you guys educate yourselves. I’ve never been taught that in school the textbooks left that part out.
The textbooks left out most of black history but this is clearly a lie here
What's the source material for the tic toc video textbooks?historical records or thefact that a white man said it we belive white scholars over our own 😂😂😂😂😂😂#SamboBehavior
You guys are blessed! I appreciate the fact that you guys keep educating yourselves. Very admirable!
Thank you for sharing this info and your feedback on this. It’s great to see young men digging into history and sharing that knowledge with the rest of us.
It’s not true.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
A quick google search shows they are wrong.
I love how you guys just cover topics that can be so taboo but you just get to the bottom of it and discuss it. Not argue without listening but truly discuss it. Great examples.
Me too!
Im Irish and none believes we were the first slaves. This shows the truth.
In America but not the world..thats reserved for my people, the slavic.
Bc you were servants not slaves
@@matthewcipcic7961yessss assigning specific races to the atrocity of slavery is a total moot point. 👍everyone living now are the descendants of slaves.
Yep!!! Irish people were the first slaves!!!
@@JADTOa servant is a slave…. Someone owns them in exchange for freedom/ citizenship
It’s all EVIL!
My Greatgrandmother, who was a creole free person of color, in the 1750’s had over 10 slaves. Her Mother and other ancestors were black slaves. This happened in New Orleans.
New Orleans aka Little Haiti? Sure did. One of the few states to not think a Negro was an Alien like good ol' Antonio in the video above.
She would’ve had to be your great great grandmother.
@@jamesdellaneve9005
I haven’t counted how many generations, but it’s more than that. I have to look at my genealogy chart.
@@LizzieAnn451 It could be great, great, great, great. People tended to live shorter lives in those days.
@@jamesdellaneve9005 Not true, they lived quite long lives actually. Another lie in our history books.
Indians also kept black slaves. I was shocked to hear this too.
The black people were the indians
Yes they did. Owning another is never o.k. but again do your research as they Indians treated their slaves at better and the slave b had ba chance to n purchase themselves.
@@ApaleobloodlineWoman and children were the enslaved ( unless Man is sentenced to slavery) Women didn’t start receiving rights until emancipation 1863, then accepted in Law 1917 (14 amendment 19 amendment) all men over a certain maturity were considered a Free Man ( after servitude completed) no matter the hue of color!
@@Apaleobloodlinethe what?
Native american kept AMERICAN INDIANS
Slavery is not derived from racism rather racism is derived from slavery.
Edit: shoulda been more specific. I am not condoning racism or slavery simply stating the fact that long before racism was defined there was slavery. (In terms of slavery in the USA)
elijah. Exactly right. Slavery was a bait. Literally. And guess who did the baiting and why?
There are indigenous people all over the world who will tell you you're wrong.
@elijahreed29. You had no Slaves, why are you defending Slavery?
@@shanegooding4839The person is referring to North America.
@@halbleavy9900
He is NOT defending slavery at all.
Quite the opposite.
It's the slvs whose ancestors organized the entire thing that are defending and using slvy as their end times weapon.
Deut28:48-51.
There is more to it than meets the eye.
There is a lot of hidden history when it comes to slavery in the U.S.. The percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia. There is so very much more to tell. It can be difficult at times to find online because so much is very 'buried,' but there are many books that go into great depth and detail.
And they of all the slaves that went to the Americas only about 400k even went to US while somewhere between 5-8 million went to Brazil
So in the 1860 U.S. Census the state of South Carolina was 57% Slave, please apply your percentages to that number.
@@Catherine.Dorian. That 400K left 45 Million of us behind so, there's that.
@@halbleavy9900 behind where? Today there’s 45 million slaves but not back them. Did you mean the African slaves sold to the Middle East by African tribes for a thousand years. Or the 1.5 million the northern Barbary pirated kidnapped from europe and while they’d ransom the men back but never the women. That what you meant
I’ve listened to stuff on Gaia TV where they talk intergalactic stuff and say that other planetary alien races consider earth a slave planet. In other words we’re all slaves to the elite. And who are the elite? The man/alien behind the curtain we never see? That’s the question.
Anthony Johnson not only was the first slave trader in the British/American colonies, but pushed laws to make "Slaves for life" think about that. Let that sink in.
These guys will go to extraordinary lengths to justify their affection for white women smh
What's you source material
Yes, I read about Johnson. Found on a captured Spanish galleon (where he had also been baptized into Cathlicism). Taken to America (Colonies). For passage payment, he was contracted out into indenture hood. It was commonplace for Ship Captains to create contracts for payment for passage and to sell the contract to whomever bought it once arrived. After his contract repaid after so may years of servitude, he was free and got land. He was very successful and acquired more land. The size of his land made him eligible for indentured servant(s). He had an indentured servant of color who ran away after he served to the end of his contract without that completion being recognized. Johnson refused to honor the contract and claimed his contract was still in effect. It went to court. Mind you, it was common practice for indentured servants to have their contracts extended due to acquired extra expenses or for bad behavior, conveniently. The indentured man, with the support/help of other kind folk, went to court to fight Mr. Johnson. Johnson won. The man was legally declared a servant/slave of Johnson's FOR LIFE. Heartbreaking and frustratingly sad.
@slicfangas3283 No source material, just trust me bro
i guess thats supposed to some how make what the white demons did less demonic
You guys are Awesome! Level headed and telling the Truth and open for all ideas. Bless you guys!
In his autobiography, "The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave," Frederick Douglass gave a fascinating account of good vs. bad slave owners. If you haven't read it, it's an easy read and well worth your time. It's a book you'll never forget.
Thank you for the recommendation! I just posted recommending the book 12 Years A Slave by Solomon Northup. Northup was a free black man who was kidnapped and lived as a slave for 12 years, experiencing both a good and a bad slaveowner. The movie is not faithful to the book on this issue.
A good slave owner is like an honest burglar.
@@linzierogers5024 To sum it up, Douglas said he would rather have a good slave owner than a bad one, but at the end of the day, being owned by another man is intolerable - no matter how well they treat you.
@@MisteryMan2000 You could say its like the old saying "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. " But I say better yet no devil at all.
@@georgeluther7759 Again you claim others are cherry picking then go on to do just that yourself. I will remind you the vast majority of black slaves sold into slavery were sold by other black people. The fact they were sold by other black people means that there original slave-owners/masters were black. So as said how about you stop cherry picking the parts of the slave trade that suits your narrative!.
The same can be said for White slaves, most not all were sold/taken into slavery by other white people, same go's for Asians etc etc etc across the world. .
Hello from Montana. Indentured servitude was normally for seven years or less. Ben Franklin was an indentured servant to his brother, while learning the printing business. Ben ran away before his time was up. The indenture could be voluntary ie. to pay back a loan, a lot of times for ship passage, or an apprenticeship. Keep up with the great videos.
More proof they create a fake narrative every few generations to manipulate the population.
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
@@adamprice3466prove it. This is a lie.
@@adamprice3466right
I’m an Asian American recently subscribed to your channel after seeing your coverage on Vivek. I’m learning so much from you guys now….thank you for this video!
Vivek 24'!!!!!! He's my choice!!!! Spread the word!!!
@@chadtodd4554 you’d have to be blind to not see that he’s been positioned by powerful people right now. If he was legit they wouldn’t give him any time at all. They fact that they do says it all.
Vivek is a respectable candidate, but it’s gotta be Trump 2024.
Cheers
Viveks donors were good friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Vivek was part of WEF as well. Y’all can have him.
In the Bible times, a person had a way to pay their debts when they had no money. It was being a slave to the debtor ( of course all it really meant is that a slave would work off the debt) then set free. It was a form of employment. The employer had to treat EVERYONE with dignity and generosity. They could not mistreat any person. So, it was never the color of a persons skin! God made all people and all nationalities. Unfortunately, as the Bible states, “man can not direct his own step” and certainly can not govern others. God didn’t make men to govern other men. Men made themselves into rulers.Yes, slavery is very old. It is against all of what the Bible teaches. The churches should have known this as they are somewhat to blame by not teaching the Bible and God’s standards. Thank you for playing this. I love watching you guys. You’re awesome!
THERES DIFFERENT TYPES OF SLAVERY.. CHATTEL IS THE WORST AND WAS CREATED BY ARABS AND EUROPEANS AND USED BIBLICALLY ON BLACK PEOPLE.. PLUS...EVER NOTICE THESE TYPE OF BLACK PEOPLE NEVER WATCH THE OPPOSITE OF THESE ANTI BLACK PROPAGANDA REVISIONIST RACIST EUROPEAN AMERICAN HISTORY VIDS.. WHERES THE REVIEW OF DR CLAUDE ANDERSON.. FARRAKHAN, The Great Dr Frances Cress Welsing, NEELY FULLER. ETC
But if you have a kid that kid has to say with the slave master what are you saying 😂😂😂
he went to court to take the freedom away from another black man, made him a lifetime slave but you want to know if he treated him ok? i say no he didnt because he made him a lifetime slave
He also owned his own son...crazy
Exactly.
Looks like the guys try to unsee this fact or justify Anthony's action.
Keep in mind, guys, that Anthony could be worse owner than some other white owners. It happens a lot in life, regardless race etc.
@@OldSchooledand shipped over many more family members from Africa ..he got all the extra land under head scheme...not only that put all enslaved from than on were slaves for life or indentured for life.....Also his owner the guy were the fight happened between native Indians....he left him everything
@@ko0974 owning his wife and child was the only way to keep his family together. And then after he died because slavery was the “legal” and BLACKS were then not allowed to own… his acres of land, his son, and everything he achieved was taken away and given to the. Nearest white slave owner….
So because a black dude was trying make that money, owning slaves was okay? Owning his own damn son was okay? Buying more slaves was okay?
Am I tripping or something or are the guys trying to make excuses for him, just cuz he was black? Am I on an alien planet or something? Slavery still = bad and evil, right? Wtf is happening?
Hypocrisy at its finest.
I love watching you guys developing a better understanding the world around us. Keep up the great material.
The slave trade wasn’t just full of black slaves, there were slaves of every race. The word “slave” originated from Slavic’s, which was shorten to slave, and they were white.
English "slave":
From Middle English, from Old French sclave, from Medieval Latin sclāvus (“slave”), from Late Latin Sclāvus (“Slav”), because Slavs were often forced into slavery in the Middle Ages. The Latin word is from Byzantine Greek Σκλάβος (Sklábos), see that entry and Slav for more.
Wiktionary
The derivation of the word slave encapsulates a bit of European history and explains why the two words slave and Slav are so similar; they are, in fact, historically identical. The word slave first appears in English around 1290, spelled sclave. The spelling is based on Old French esclave from Medieval Latin sclavus, "Slav, slave," first recorded around 800. Sclavus comes from Byzantine Greek sklabos (pronounced sklä′vōs) "Slav," which appears around 580. Sklavos approximates the Slavs' own name for themselves, the Slověnci, surviving in English Slovene and Slovenian. The spelling of English slave, closer to its original Slavic form, first appears in English in the 1500s. Slavs became slaves around the beginning of the ninth century when the Holy Roman Empire tried to stabilize a German-Slav frontier. By the 1100s, stabilization had given way to wars of expansion and extermination that did not end until 1410, when the Poles crushed the knights of the Teutonic Order at Grunwald in north-central Poland. · As far as the Slavs' own self-designation goes, its meaning is, understandably, better than "slave"; it comes from the Indo-European root *kleu-, whose basic meaning is "to hear" and occurs in many derivatives meaning "renown, fame." The Slavs are thus "the famous people." Slavic names ending in -slav incorporate the same word, such as Czech Bohu-slav, "God's fame," Russian Msti-slav, "vengeful fame," and Polish Stani-slaw, "famous for withstanding (enemies)."
American Heritage Dictionary, 5th ed. Greetings from Tricity in Poland :-)
Stop and read a book
There were slaves mentioned throughout the Bible and these were mainly brown people. Slaves have existed since the beginning of human existence. it's all about power. Conquerors of all colours either killed or made slaves of people they conquered. Muslims to European slaves, Africans took African slaves, and also sold them to Europeans. .. and modern day slavery is rife in Africa and other parts of the world to this day
There is always one of you. There is a different from being a slave and an indentured servant.
THATS A LOAD OF BS.. EVERY RACE AND YOU MENTION SOME WHAT IRISH IDENTUR4ED SLAVE.. THATS NOT CHATTEL SLAVERY NUT.. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE ABOUT RACIAL BIBLICAL SLAVERY THEY TURNED INTO CHATTEL.
Glad you guys got individual microphones now. So much better to be able to hear you each individually without the echos affecting it when you all were conversing with each other.
History is brutal. It doesn't do anyone any good to pretend otherwise. I'm a new subscriber, but absolutely enjoy the thoughtful conversations y'all have. Also, thank you for the book recommendation. I'd love to hear y'all discuss the Harlem Renaissance.
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Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
Truth
History should always be a lesson
Regarding good versus bad slave owners - I recently read the book 12 Years a Slave, which I highly recommend. It was written in the 1850s or so - before the Civil War, but after the book Uncle Tom's Cabin, and it added to the debate over slavery. The author was a free black man living in New York State who was lured South and then kidnapped into slavery. It took him 12 years to get word to his family and (white) friends up North who worked to get him freed.
In the book, the author was first held by a good slaveowner, and then sold to a very bad slaveowner. Along the way, he met both good and bad people (for example, the wife of the bad slaveowner was fairly decent, much better than her husband; and two whites, at different times, risked themselves to help get word to the author's friends and family up North). That's part of what is interesting about the book - the variety of experiences and people.
Of course when Hollywood made the book into a movie, they turned the good slaveowner bad.
Two key points are that 1) slavery is awful and wrong even with good slaveowners. The author said that (I'm paraphrasing from memory) more than half of the sting of slavery would have been removed if all owners had been like his first one. But more than half isn't nearly all. A person's choice and liberty is still taken from him. And 2) there's no safety, no protection when people don't have fundamental, inherent rights (such as to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"). Maybe your slaveowner will be good, but he may change or sell you or take a nasty wife. Similarly, under kings, maybe you have a good, benevolent and wise king, but he may turn bitter or the next king may be worse. Under communism, whether the Communist Party leaders are good or bad, you have no choice because you have no inherent rights.
People shouldn't be owned by other people, or by the government, or by anyone. We need freedom and individual rights, not an owner, not even if it's a good owner.
12 Years a Slave was written by a white man as the guy on who the book is based couldn't read or write. The book is coloured with the authors tainted views which overshadow the subjects true story. Much of the dialogue in the book is made up....no black man at that time would use the 'n' word to describe his friends. So, the book cannot be trusted to give a proper account of life as a slave and its horrors.
Abolishing of slavery was a biblical/Christian moral and value... our nations founding was fully on biblical principles; all our rights, or freedoms, our laws, and founding documents were all based on Christianity; without it slavery never would've been Abolished or thought of as a bad thing or evil practice; everyone who says it was a bad thing dont realize that belief only exists per Christian founding of western nations... White Christian Republicans in the north were the first ppl in all world history to end slavery... US was among the nation's with the fewest slaves and of the few nations that best treated slaves... when ppl think of slavery they look for worse cases then equate that as the norm... many freed slaves took care of their former own and had full respect for them and absolutely would've preferred to be owned by them as opposed to other ppl or being returned to Africa where they could've suffered worse conditions... Slavery was of many forms not just cheap labor; as servitude was the only way to proper punish law breakers or ppl with extreme debt they couldn't pay; sides the usual conquered ppl choosing to be servants as opposed to kill or exiled from the lands... Everyone in jail today should be put to hard labor as it's unjust that we tax payers should have to pay 100k per year per person incarcerated; they should be working to pay their debts sides serving timeout...
Slavery has been abolished in Europe. Slavery dose exist today in Africa and other non white countries today. Yet they are still not satisfied today. They gave an option to go back to Africa created Liberia.
I thought the same thing reading Uncle Tom's Cabin as a child. And it is an excellent point that you made about slavery not just being in the micro form with individual slave owners but with governments and I would say even, mid-level organizations like unions. These are groups that compell obedience by open threat or slick manipulation.
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Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
I encourage anyone who has ever called someone an ‘Uncle Tom’ in a derogatory way to research the man who inspired that book, Josiah Henson.
His life story is one of courage, perseverance, and integrity. I know that word isn’t discussed in this video, but I just thought I would bring it up because it’s probably somewhere in the comments and it’s really heartbreaking to hear someone use that name as an insult, when the man who it’s named after was everything we should all hope to be.
@sirprize.7472
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Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
Gentleman, I appreciate you studying this more in depth.
Louisiana had many Black slave owners Sugar cane plantation owners
The largest of which, according to census data in 1860, was a black woman. Crazy.
Provide sources
@@MCfact1827 C. Richards and her son P.C. Richards, who owned a large sugar cane plantation. Another Black slave magnate in Louisiana with over 100 slaves was Antoine Dubuclet, a sugar planter whose estate was valued at $264, 000.
@mcfact1827 she is so well documented. You had to ask? Education is sh""t anymore. She was like Oprah in the day 😂😂 wow I'm Irish Scot. I now dub you Tipsy McStagger
A lot of Blks who could bought the freedom of slaves
So Anthony Johnson set the president in law from indentured servants to slaves for life, my Irish ancestors are always forgotten in American history yet we are expected to forget this glad you shared this knowledge
That's not true. John Punch was punished to 'perpetual slavery' fifteen years before Johnson acquired a slave.
History is painful
Once you know the truth
Its not forgotten history, its hidden history.
This video is teaching 'fictitious history'.
That's the thing. The more informed about our history you are, the more you see how much we've accomplished, how far we have come and how MUCH we have grown...for all we've been through. ❤️ It's a beautiful thing to experience. Learning about our country's history means learning about ourselves as individuals and as a national community unlike any other. We are who we are because of who we've been. And I for one am PROUD AS HELL my family has been part of this history. And I'm PROUD as hell to be part of this country...I only hope we make it through the Civil War we're in now, still intact. ❤️ Great vid, guys.
Lies about our history don't help the situation
I'm learning shit with you guys I was never taught in school. Some of it I knew but some of it I never heard of. So many people are learning with you guys. This channel has become an educational place I come to to learn. Your conversations make it even better.
It was more primitive times but the great thing about humanity is, it eventually strives to do better. History should not be forgotten, nor erased or torn down. It serves as a reminder of past mistakes by every race & creed. More of these past truths need to be exposed to allow all to better understand our history.
Learning as much history about the world is the best thing you can do for yourself. The best education. The best. Bravo!!!!!!
I am so glad that this was a topic of conversation. Thank you for helping to make America great again. You're all great role models! Love your channel, and I always look forward to new episodes.
Naw, they’re basically 🦝’s spending miss info. The fist slave wasn’t blk. How? When we were over in Africa and brought over here as slaves
@sirprize.7472
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Its lies, and Africa had 32 centuries of recorded peace consecutively, The pyramids were not built by slaves, The arabs were the first to use slaves in Africa. tell steve harvey to shut up. We know about it he is not telling us nothing. The arabs are mixed Europeans, put there to steal African oil. Then the arab Muslims, forced the African Kings to give slaves or die, become Muslim or die. Wake up you idiots do your own research read your own Bible.
I'm white and I saw in my family history that some of my ancestors were indentured servants. It was actually not uncommon for many settlers to become indentured servants. They volunteered to be indentured servants in order to come to America. The wealthy master would provide a way to the United States and would feed and house the indentured servants. It costs a lot of money to take care of another person. The servant would agree to work for the master for usually 7 years and then the master would give them free land. That's how many indentured servants became successful and could live the American dream.
Slavery on the other hand was mostly bad but not all. Some slaves were treated better than others but overall it was an awful and horrific time in our history.
There are historical accounts that not all indentured servants were voluntary. Others were swept up off of the streets asylums and angelle's and sold off for their period of indenture which they did not always survive. Some people delivered to the colonies indentured workers (not just house servants) were very small children of unknown parentage
And they did not GIVE THEM free land. They were made 'Share Croppers' this could be as much as 75% of your crops went to the land owner. Many could not survive or had to have many children to work their place while the men went and worked for others to earn cash to make up for the family.
A slave is a slave ! Period.
@@Smoothoperator65 In the Bible a slave was someone who worked for free. Not all slaves were mistreated. That being said, I would never want to be one. Unfortunately, most slaves were horribly treated especially those in early America.
@@b4ucmego no one given the choice would want to be a slave, that said though not all slaves were as mistreated as some would have us believe!
We all need to research history and question what we've been taught, not just on this topic, but EVERYTHING. The Internet is a helpful tool, but still things are censored. We really have been kept in the dark. Anyone else angry?😡
Very angry, imagine what is is being hidden from us 😢😢😢😠😠😠😠
No. Because I was born before Google and know my history from family and traveling. I feel sorry for your generation ( I assume you're very young because you seem to think GOOGLE IS IT everything ALL. 😂 oh dear 😮
I feel purposefully misled. In school l was taught that Eli Whitney (inventor of the cotton gin) was black. Now I'm finding out that he was white.
Nope. I went to an educated school
We were taught this in Ireland up to about the 90s I'd imagine is known in most countries,
Always appreciate the way you guys break your videos down. With open minds and intelligence.
Do not forget Anthony was living in Maryland and died there resulting in his property being given to his wealthy white neighbor. He initially attained his freedom and became wealthy in neighboring Virginia. Originally, the states saw themselves as very separate entities from other states and the United States. The laws could also be very different - more so than today - from one state to another. One big question in my mind is this: would his son have inherited his property if Anthony had remained in Virginia? Remember, the ruling saying his Don could not inherit his property was greatly affected because Anthony and his household were NOT citizens in Maryland but Anthony and his wife were apparently considered citizens in Virginia (if I remember correctly.) Is it possible Anthony’s son could have inherited his property if the family had remained in Virginia, which seems to have been more egalitarian, instead of moving to Maryland? Again, I’m no historian but I think it’s a question worth investigation instead of drawing broader conclusions and applying the laws of Maryland to all the colonies.
It would be with the US Constitution that America firmly inherits responsibility by NOT emancipating slaves. Thus the very wording of that document tells you who is and isn't a citizen. Natives, Blacks and Indentured Servants.
As I say to everyone this as in the British Colonies by a British subject. USA didn’t exist which is why he is forgotten in “American” history
Scotland was not in the UK so not responsible. Daneland was not in England. Etc. I agree with you. Each of the Colonies had charters which kept them decentralized from one another. This period though not American is still tied to the history and progress of time in this land. The successors did no justice in the Constitution and delayed emancipation to promote a larger nation to resist foreign powers. @@HeyYallTryThis
@@HeyYallTryThisWell it seems that Hugh Gwyn, the actual first individual to own an enslaved person in the 13 colonies, has been forgotten too.
@@limonesycafe8898Not surprising. Anthony Johnson purchased his servant from a white person. He was actually the first Black to own one, not the first owner. This issue is a disgusting gaslight.
You guys are doing great 👍🏻 at least presenting some food for thought for everyone out there. As a 34 year old white guy from southeast Missouri, I can tell you there is definitely black vs white racism around. But I also grew up knowing that everyone should be treated equally. There are polar opposites everywhere, and they’ve been highlighted in recent years. I think we can do this though (all together) and you guys nailed this one. I’m pretty much an eternal pessimist about the outcome of humanity, but in a very optimistic way 🤔😏. Long story short, we all have to think positively and begin to build a better future. The past seems to have sucked for pretty much everyone (every culture) for one reason or another. The irony is we’re more advanced than ever as a species, and it all comes down to age-old human bullshit. Just hatred for being different. Weird. But thank you guys again for pushing the envelope ✌🏻
I believe the divide between white indentured servants being able to but their freedom and black indentured servants being slaves for life happened after Bacon’s Rebellion. White indentured servants and black indentured servants worked together during the Rebellion and in order to prevent black and white indentured servants from working together to overthrow the establishment. They were divided into those who could earn/buy their freedom and those who could not.
Maybe but black slaves could buy their freedoms too so may be more to the system that formed in the colonies.
Also shortly after the Bacon Rebellion in 1676, is when interracial marriages were made illegal by the British governors in America.
It would be 100 yrs later, in 1776, the Revolution took place.
@@loganw1232Very few actually could. Buying freedom is the exception, not the rule.
@@voidtempering8700 Depends on how many slaves became free blacks due to buying or Wills of the owners. Not sure if it was a small minority of free blacks or not. I know that the history of the free black population in the South is an obscure part of American history.
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
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Two cases often get cited as the first. The distinction between the two is one was a civil case and one was a punishment for breaking a contract (don’t forget though many were forced into contracts that they never agreed to in the first place).
At first an indentured servant, John Punch (in 1640) is on record as becoming the first słave in the North Amerícan colonies (John Punch was Błack). Mr Punch was sentenced to life servitude. After first fleeing to another state and being returned before his índentured contract was up. Thus, Hugh Gwyn, the man who owned John Punch, would be the first known słaveholder on record in North American colonies (Hugh Gwyn was whíte).
It’s important to understand that most laborers came to the new colony as índentured servants (yes, this meant whíte laborers too). Not all of them did so by choice, as many people today incorrectly believe. Nor were all freed upon the agreed end of their contract. One way this happened was through clauses in the contracts, which allowed the contracts to be resold to someone else without deducting years already served (this was done without the consent of the indentured servant). Another was clauses in the contract that extended the service if a female became pregnant. Which was then exploited by forcing the women to get pregnant and keep them pregnant. This could very well result in extending the years of service, till the female indentured servants could no longer outlive the end of their contract terms.
Another turning point in słavery was the story of Anthony Johnson. Anthony Johnson (a free man, once indentured himself) is on record as being the first person to sue in a civil case for the right to own another man (John Casor) for life. He sued Robert Parker for the rights to own John Casor (whom was once an indentured servant of his but now under indentured servant contract to Robert Parker). Anthony Johnson initially lost the case but on appeal (in 1655) won the right to own Casor for life (Johnson and Casor were both Błack, that is the owner and the słave both were Błack).
While John Casor was the first person declared a słave in a civil case. There were both błack and whíte indentured servants sentenced, or condemned by contract extension, to lifetime servitude before 1655. Often they were sentenced due to being accused of (and found guilty of) breaking the law. Sometimes as already mentioned, they were held for life directly by the contract holder themselves as a result of the terms and clauses in their contract
Again, the distinction between the two is one was a civil case and one was a punishment for breaking a contract (don’t forget though many both błack and whíte were forced into contracts that they never agreed to in the first place).
John Punch/Bunch(?) is supposedly an ancestor of Barak Obama's mom.
This all sounds incredibly jewish to me. Knowing they largely ran, owned and operated the entire slave trade the ridiculous contracts left open for abuse makes sense. Blacks were seen as property while the whites were slaves via contracts.
A pregnancy of an indentured woman was considered an extra expense, a loss in productivity, along with the then dependent child which resulted in extra years of servitude. There were also children in mass shipped to the British Colonies. A law was created in England that if you were picked up for begging, etc., that with 2 signatures they could place you on a ship bound to the Colonies as a indentured servant. Plus, people were tricked into indenture hood often. They would pay for their passage including meals. By the time they arrived, they were told they had extra expenses and asked to pay in order to disembark. Rotten, rancid and bug infested food was not discarded from previous journeys. If you wanted better food, you eventually paid. If they could not, a contract was created. The contract would be sold. More $$$. Human life was a commodity. Abuse and greed was rampant.
@@troyhailey Many historíans don’t all agree about this subject.. but that’s true of most every subject in history.
The argument is it was índentured servitude and that’s not the same. However, that’s not what it actually was in real world practice. The Irish were beat3n, had their lands taken, many were førced into service, førced to wørk, forced from their homełand, their wømen rap3d, their chíldren sołd and many were kílled (or had their contracts extended till they dīed). That is in fact słavery, even if they called it something else.
Here are a couple qoutes with references:
“In theory, the person is only selling his or her labor. In practice, however, indentured servants were basically slaves and the courts enforced the laws that made it so. The treatment of the servant was harsh and often brutal. In fact, the Virginia Colony prescribed “bodily punishment for not heeding the commands of the master.” (Ballagh, 45) Half the servants died in the first two years. As a result of this type of treatment, runaways were frequent. The courts realized this was a problem and started to demand that everyone have identification and travel papers. (A.E. Smith 264-270).” - Deanna Barker, Frontier Resources
That’s half in just two years, while other sources claim it was half in total or less around 1/3. Yet, other sources say it was 60% that díed (or were kílled).
“Only about 40 percent of índentured servants lived to complete the terms of their contracts. Female servants were often the subject of harassmeñt from their masters. A woman who became pregnant while a servant often had years tacked on to the end of her service time.” - UShistory(dot)org 5b. Indentured Servants
By “harassmènt” they mean rap3d.
@@troyhailey Also, it’s not “víctim” mentality to acknowledge history, it becomes victím mentałity when someone thinks they personally suffered because their ancestørs did (which is absurd). Thanks for sharing and providing more information on the subject. I do agree that the “chatteł słavery” precedent is also a very important distinction.
I enjoy watching the videos you produce. It is interesting to me to observe your thought processes and conversations. It is also encouraging to this old guy to watch you young men have open, thoughtful, and honest discussions on so many topics.
Excellent discussion gentlemen!
Slavery has existed since humans walked the planet. It still exists today. Why we focus on this small time frame is beyond me.
Because we are talking about AMERICA, not some other country. Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That's what this country was supposedly built on. Yet they enslaved a race of people.
Can you not see the contradiction.
@ericwarner3150....becuase white people do not want to let it go.....true slavery has existed since humans walked the planet, that's not the real issue, the real issue is acceptance in the United States as a Black person if you ever read history and slavery in every society when a slave won his freedom that person was allowed to join society as a regular citizen, in the United States Government had to pass bills to force European Americans to allow African Americans to live like normal citizens....you take time and think about that stupid comment you just posted...
@@melshome6745you see slavery in America today?
@@melshome6745 slavery existed in every nation in all history... white ppl were the most enslaved in all world history and white Christian Republicans in the north were the first to end it... abolishing of slavery was and is a biblical Christian moral and value as is our nations founding; what our rights were based on, our freedoms, and our laws... if not not democrat slave owners in the south slavery would've ended when we gained our independence; as ending it then would've meant civil war thus US would've ended and slavery never would've been Abolished... if US ended slavery too early and had an earlier CW then the British, French, Spanish, or Portuguese would've taken us over... All races were slaves and slave owners in US and the world... before blacks white ppl were the most enslaved in the US... slavery existed and still exists in Africa today and it was because of black tribes capturing, enslaving, and selling weaker black tribes to the Portuguese for small trinkets that black ppl became the majority of slaves in the US; still US had 400k slaves at hight of US slave history which means the US was of the nation's with the fewest slaves in the world at that time as south America and Islamic Mideast took in millions more... slaves in US were also among the best treated in the whole world to the point many freed slaves stayed with and/or took care of former owners per how well they were treated... white ppl were among the last ppl in the US to be freed after J19 thus J19 shouldn't be a black only celebration for ppl who want to celebrate something so dumb... There are more slaves in Africa today than in all North and South American history combined... slavery existed in many forms not just forced labor against ppls will... slavery was mainly about economics not race and as explained black ppl became the majority because black Africans tribes sold them cheap... Treatment of slaves in other nations and in Africa is why over 95% of freed slaves Refused reparations per they did not want to return to their nation of origin thus any arguments for reparations in today have no merit as any actual descendant has no claim per their ancestors Refused it when it was offered at a time it would've only made sense; sides the fact there is no legal grounds to offer reparations to freed slaves yet US gov per Christian morals felt it was necessary to offer; again it was Refused by the freed slaves... Mohammed Ali's grand father was one of many prime example of how well many black slaves were treated and his grandfather chose the last name Clay in honor of his white slave owner... MA after falling fir Islamic propaganda changed his last name to Mohammed as he said "Clay is a white man's name" and he associated the name with white slavery inspite of doing so is a dishonor to his grandfather... Mohammed is the Muslim "prophet" who is a white man and who owned many slaves including blacks and he encouraged his followers to enslave others especially blacks thus why Muslims are responsible for the most slaves in history and the most black slaves... You are just as hypocritical and ignorant as MA with your ignorant understanding of slavery, black slavery, and history in general... maybe it's about time you actually start to educate yourself and learn real history not the woke leftist, democrat, black history
True
Thats what I call an inconvenient fact for the woke left😂
It's not a inconvenient truth. Anyone with a brain knows you can't go to a foreign country and start snatching inhabitants without any repercussions, Africans had kings and those kings had slaves and once a business agreement was made that would benefit both sides the slave trade STARTED!! ONLY A fool would think a feeble european could snatch a African and make him a slave!
No I would call it more a fact slap across the face of the extremist left.😂
TRUMP has not been convicted of “ insurrection “ that is a leftist fantasy! Educate yourself!
@martinm1231 There was no inserection and they have giving shelter, aiding and abetting, to the criminal host named bide.n, so suck it.
This is not true. But let's say it is true lol. What point is that proving for you? You also know that slavery is working a 9-5 too right?
So glad you found this. Alot of people dont believe this.
Because its not true. Virginia courts declared John Punch a slave fifteen years before Johnson was awarded Casor.
I don’t care who you are or where you came from no one should ever be a slave, period!!!!
I had no idea and I'm almost 45... I learn along with y'all and the others I follow for reactions. I'm thankful to have grown up in the 80s and 90s (born in 78) and we really didn't have any issues with color either way and now we, being myself and classmates and middle aged, cry at some of the things we see today that was already fought before we were born, and we're thankful that our youth like you guys and even younger have this information at your fingertips and are helping our future generations stay united as brothers and sisters and I thank you.
I'm 20. I learned at 16
Back then maybe everything wasn't great and it wasn't only the races. Not long before that women had to quit their jobs at some companies if they got married and you either lied about it or quit. So if people now say certain things that were bad then that might be and probably was true but people had hope and real progress was being made. It was just a mindset that things were really getting better and you really thought...in 10 years all this nonsense will be behind us but things are going the exact opposite way now. It's sad.
These guys need to know how to get real sources. Academic sources and not google. Anthony Johnson was a slave owner later meaning he could have been buying slaves back to keep families together or relatives, then they would stay and work his land instead of being forced into harsh conditions.
Slavery wasn't forced and harsh when it started out,
@@SkoolofskillsInc or not. Why imagine things. He was far from the only one. It's a nice idea and maybe different races did that but we really don't know.
@@orange222... When you/we are talking about things like this: You need to source up. One can't get information off google and say it's facts. Old books, old government records, University resources.
Wikipedia have a little bit more of the story than what these guys are saying.
Wikipedia: Anthony Johnson (colonist)
Great reaction video!! I learned some new history myself, gentlemen, and I thank you for that. I enjoy listening and watching you "work it out" among yourselves! Will you all be reacting to any music videos anytime soon? I love those, too!! Thank you for being such exemplary mentors
to those around you, and especially, to the younger generations behind you!!!❤️🙏❤️💕
My first friend growing up was a black girl down the street, i looked up to her dad as a second father. Our families shared Christmas and Thanksgiving together, but once we entered school, she wanted nothing to do with me. I confronted her once and asked her why we weren't playing with each other anymore, and she told me, "Other kids pick on me for having a white friend."
Im biracial, but my complexion is more peach colored than my twins' darker skin tone. I lost a friend because i looked white to others, and white equals bad, i guess.
Indeed, racism along with many other "prejudices" works multiple ways! I, being a white girl, experienced being called a white cracker when I was just a little girl playing with a black friend, but at the time I didn't understand that was a bad thing since I liked crackers. Seriously!! It wasn't until I repeated what I was called when I was talking about my playtime that I discovered it was a derogatory term and my friend would later get in trouble for playing with this white cracker. I chose to ignore stupidity and thankfully I had parents that allowed me to pick my friends so race was never ever an issue. Even when the first Iranian started school with us. I heard the whispers and all the questions but as kids we didn't know why. Ignorant adults are bad, not skin color.
Sad😥
That sucks
Obviously a case of total and complete unadulterated JEALOUSY!!!
Love that you’re exposing the truth behind this sensitive subject.
Most people also don’t know (because we weren’t taught in school “Programming”) that the words “Slave” originated from the word “Slav”, as in “Slavic” (aka white Europeans) who were enslaved by other Slavic people. There were slaves in every country, culture, & race all over the world. Since this is America we are only taught about partial truths, & the Irish & European slaves who were brought here are often left out of “history”.
There is a saying that whoever wins the war, gets to rewrite history, & it happens all the time, & not just after wars. It’s just a fact that whoever has the power at the time can decide what’s real & what’s forgotten to time…
Love your videos for many reasons. I love that you actually listen to what you are learning about and don’t constantly stop a video. We are all learning together. Hearing your thoughts is important and also shows and I know this is hard for liberals to understand even if you are of the same you race you can have differing opinions. I know shocking 😮. All of your videos are entertaining, educational and relevant for all people. I pray nothing but good things coming your way. I’d love to see you guys do something with people like Crowder, Dan Bongino, Brandon Tatum, Tucker etc … those that aren’t held down by some mainstream network but someone who can get you in front of even more people. If you’d want that of course. I just think you guys are awesome and deserve and have earned great opportunities.
When George Washington was going to free his slaves, the slaves asked him not too. They received apparently protection and good treatment from the family.
Not condoning slavery just saying nuance
Get off the drugs. There's no such thing as good treatment for a SLAVE.
Cause they knew, that a lot of "freed slaves" were captured and sold on again, so better stay safe where you are treated at least okay, then having to face such dangers
@@Eysenbeisswhat is this racist nonsense you’re talking.
That is because they knew they had no rights or protection as non-white ppl under Virginia law.
Finally thank You.....i am tired of not knowing our history. Thomas Jefferson I think sent boats to Africa to safe people from the pirates and slavery.
He Also had a child with a black woman
That was for the barbary wars
Thank you for sharing this information with us. I always am open to learning more about history. And you guys have a good perspective of what you are learning. I also learned what Motion means. How interesting your videos are. This is a perspective of a 54year old white Lady🥰!!!!
I lost it when Brandon asked what he looked like and Brock said he look kind of like you 🤣🤣
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FR missed y'all the past few days. Appreciate the content as always.
You guys should watch Forgotten History’s video on the Irish Slave Trade.
Love these guys. Intelligent thoughtful conversation. Good young Americans. Hope they run for office someday. Their what this country needs as far as far as research dialog and listening.
My grandfather was an indentured servant. He didn't know how old he was at the time he was taken and put into slavery as a small child, he only knew his name was Walter Fred. He was Irish and was part of the children that were sold into slavery from England and Irland.
I see you did the indentured servants bait...
And slavery switch. Slavery was "FOREVER" based off mother's womb. Try again
One of my ancestors was sent to America as an Irish criminal for being the wrong religion. His wife died and it was illegal for him to bury her or NOT bury her. His home still exists in Ireland but he was sent here in the early 1700s.
@@devPunks being taken and sold = a slave. Sure some was able to buy their freedom. BUT...A lot of "indentured servants" was never able to buy their freedom because the "boss" would tack on more time because they would claim they broke something or did something. The "boss" would also marry them off so they could procreate and the "boss" would get more "indentured servants" because of the expenses involved. Indentured Servitude is still a form of slavery.
@@Beth0626 not in the United States history it is not. What you are NOT gonna do is conflate extremely well documented history with how "Indentured Servants" were in say Africa. There were no "Irish slaves" who were emancipated during the Civil War. And Insurance companies like AIG would not insure Indentureed Slaves as if they were Chattel.
Gotta cut it out with the "feelings" and speculation. This stuff is WELL DOCUMENTED from state to state. Sounds to me like you haven't done your own geneology (let alone American History).
#ProTip: you won't find your (specific) ancestors) in the bottom of a spit cup.
Human history is replete with misery and inequality. Brutality, hunger, powerlessness are all the hallmarks of how this planet existed. No one can claim exemption. There are 'winners and there are 'losers'. Most peoples' ancestors were in the thick of the struggle and were losers.
My sixth great grandparents Came to the US during the Colonial period from England. They were free blacks. They were a large wealthy family. They settled in South Carolina then moved on at some point to Louisiana and then on to Texas. They were the James Ashworth family, and were wealthy land owners.
Slavery isn’t about race it’s about power
Hey Cartiers!
Actually, I learned abt. all this content in school, 4th, or 5th grade, may have been both, I had super great teachers in both those grades. There’s much history that is no longer taught in school. I’ve been out for over 30 yrs., and I reviewed all of my sons history books, when they went thru the same school as I did, except for three years I spent in Ohio, on a job, then back to the same house, community, and their school again. Their history books had far less content, many more pictures. I questioned why, and one of the teachers said they, (literature / book writers, printers and distributors), moved that type of content to college level history. Well, wha’daya know?! How convenient. Then, if a student don’t choose to go to college, or goes, but don’t take history…they aren’t exposed to this and a whole lot more material and subject matter, that I believe is intentionally left out now. It doesn’t fit their narrative, or their agenda. They aren’t “teaching” as much as they are indoctrinating students. It’s really so sad. But, parents can still ensure their children get the exposure to real history, by acquiring books, thru purchasing, or library sources, and requiring u‘r children to read and review with you. Not perfect, but it works
Great vid, great reaction, @Cartiers!
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Guys cnn went to Oliver Anthony's hometown and they showed two you tube channel reactions and one was you guys. Brock was responding to his video 🧡🙏🧡🙏
I mean this doesn’t make slavery less bad 😂😂😂
Not at all, but it does help to know facts. In today's world it's hard to find the TRUTH.
Proves it to be less white though
Whites knew slavery was bad since Moses. But they kept bringing it back till the late 1800's.
Your desire for truth and knowledge shows your higher intellect.
I learned that the first black slaves were taken from Angola by the Portuguese. They were sold in Virginia to tobacco farmers. So this was interesting to hear.
The first black slaves brought to nothern america, yes, but long before that, blacks were selling other blacks within africa. If you're really interested, look for Dahomey, kingdom and their history - bet you'll be surprised
What you learned is not correct. Slaves were being ship West before Virgina became a colony.
Slaves were taken from Africa by the Asiatic Arabs as early as 600 AD.
There is some truth to your comment, the Portuguese were the first Europeans to get involved with the African slave trade.
They were from west Africa mostly sent to north America many of angolan slaves went to South America and Caribbean.
As an Irish American who’s ancestors were slaves, it’s crazy to us now, but most of my research has shown that it was a way of life, when some were freed they went back to their owners because of the security they had with food and shelter. When they spoke of their masters MOST of the time they spoke highly of them and said they were out much earlier in the morning than the workers. One recording of a lady that was a slave said her masters worked harder than anyone on the farm
The Irish were not slaves and it was actually a law that if a Irish woman had a child by a black man the woman would be enslaved for life so there was a big difference between being a black slave and an Irish indentured person. Slavery for black people meant a life-time and their children as well. Irish people's children were not slaves.
The Irish slaves myth
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth
Worked harder where?
Which plantation?
Why did she have to work harder if the African was already present with the initial arrivals of ships who were working as slaves for a lifetime and their generations?
Which years did this 1 Irish woman and which state and which plantation and what was she doing?
There were house slaves and field slaves so which slave were the Irish?
The extreme pale complexions of the Irish and the ease of skin diseases and cancers will immediately preclude that any Caucasian/European would be the absolutely worst choice to be a strong and knowledgeable slave.
The Irish in southern states cannot survive under the natural heat from the Sun. Gos xreates the Sun and its 93 million miles away.
The highest concentration of Irish is in cold climates and that's world wide. Even today as descendants of slaves the highest concentration of Irish is not in the south as well as every state that had an enormously slave trade concentration.
The first Africans forced to work in the New World left from Europe at the beginning of the sixteenth century, not from Africa. The first voyage carrying enslaved people direct from Africa to the Americas probably sailed in 1526.
The number of people carried off from Africa reached 30,000 per year in the 1690s and 85,000 per year a century later. More than eight out of ten Africans forced into the slave trade crossed the Atlantic between 1700 and 1850. The decade 1821 to 1830 saw more than 80,000 people a year leaving Africa in slave ships. Well over a million more-one-tenth of those carried off in the slave trade era-followed within the next twenty years.
By 1820, nearly four Africans for every one European had crossed the Atlantic; about four out of every five women who crossed the Atlantic were from Africa.
The majority of enslaved Africans brought to British North America arrived between 1720 and 1780.
Africans carried to Brazil came overwhelmingly from Angola. Africans carried to North America, including the Caribbean, left mainly from West Africa.
Well over 90 percent of enslaved Africans were sent to the Caribbean and South America. Only about 6 percent of African captives were sent directly to British North America. Yet by 1825, the US population included about one-quarter of the people of African descent in the Western Hemisphere.
The Middle Passage was dangerous and horrific. The sexes were separated; men, women, and children were kept naked, packed close together; and the men were chained for long periods. About 12 percent of those who embarked did not survive the voyage.
US SLAVERY COMPARED TO SLAVERY IN THE AMERICAS
Plantations in the United States were dwarfed by those in the West Indies. In the Caribbean, many plantations held 150 enslaved persons or more. In the American South, only one slaveholder held as many as a thousand enslaved persons, and just 125 had over 250 enslaved persons.
In the Caribbean, Dutch Guiana, and Brazil, the enslaved death rate was so high and the birth rate so low that they could not sustain their population without importations from Africa. Rates of natural decrease ran as high as 5 percent a year. While the death rate of the US enslaved population was about the same as that of Jamaican enslaved persons, the birth rate was more than 80 percent higher in the United States.
In the United States enslaved persons were more generations removed from Africa than those in the Caribbean. In the nineteenth century, the majority of enslaved in the British Caribbean and Brazil were born in Africa. In contrast, by 1850, most US enslaved persons were third-, fourth-, or fifth-generation Americans.
Slavery in the US was distinctive in the near balance of the sexes and the ability of the enslaved population to increase its numbers by natural reproduction. Unlike any other enslaved society, the US had a high and sustained natural increase in the enslaved population for a more than a century and a half.
CHILDREN
There were few instances in which enslaved women were released from field work for extended periods during slavery. Even during the last week before childbirth, pregnant women on average picked three-quarters or more of the amount normal for women.
Infant and child mortality rates were twice as high among enslaved children as among southern White children. Half of all enslaved infants died in their first year of life. A major contributor to the high infant and child death rate was chronic undernourishment.
The average birth weight of enslaved infants was less than 5.5 pounds, considered severely underweight by today’s standards.
Most infants of enslaved mothers were weaned within three or four months. Even in the eighteenth century, the earliest weaning age advised by doctors was eight months.
After weaning, enslaved infants were fed a starch-based diet, consisting of foods such as gruel, which lacked sufficient nutrients for health and growth.
HEALTH AND MORTALITY
Enslaved persons suffered a variety of miserable and often fatal maladies due to the Atlantic Slave Trade, and to inhumane living and working conditions.
Common symptoms among enslaved populations included blindness, abdominal swelling, bowed legs, skin lesions, and convulsions. Common conditions among enslaved populations included beriberi (caused by a deficiency of thiamine), pellagra (caused by a niacin deficiency), tetany (caused by deficiencies of calcium, magnesium, and Vitamin D), rickets (also caused by a deficiency of Vitamin D), and kwashiorkor (caused by severe protein deficiency).
Diarrhea, dysentery, whooping cough, and respiratory diseases as well as worms pushed the infant and early childhood death rate of enslaved children to twice that experienced by White infants and children.
DOMESTIC SLAVE TRADE
The domestic slave trade in the US distributed the African American population throughout the South in a migration that greatly surpassed the Atlantic Slave Trade to North America.
Though Congress outlawed the African slave trade in 1808, domestic slave trade flourished, and the enslaved population in the US nearly tripled over the next fifty years.
The domestic trade continued into the 1860s and displaced approximately 1.2 million men, women, and children, the vast majority of whom were born in America.
To be “sold down the river” was one of the most dreaded prospects of the enslaved population. Some destinations, particularly the Louisiana sugar plantations, had especially grim reputations. But it was the destruction of family that made the domestic slave trade so terrifying.
PROFITABILITY
Prices of enslaved persons varied widely over time, due to factors including supply and changes in prices of commodities such as cotton. Even considering the relative expense of owning and keeping an enslaved person, slavery was profitable.
In order to ensure the profitability of enslavement and to produce maximum “return on investment,” slaveholders generally supplied only the minimum food and shelter needed for survival, and forced their enslaved persons to work from sunrise to sunset.
Although young adult men had the highest expected levels of output, young adult women had value over and above their ability to work in the fields; they were able to have children who by law were also enslaved by the owner of the mother. Therefore, the average price of enslaved females was higher than their male counterparts up to puberty age. Men around the age of 25 were the most “valuable.”
Slaveholding became more concentrated over time, particularly as slavery was abolished in the northern states. The fraction of households owning enslaved persons fell from 36 percent in 1830 to 25 percent in 1860.
During the Civil War, roughly 180,000 Black men served in the Union Army, and another 29,000 served in the Navy. Three-fifths of all Black troops were formerly enslaved.
WORKS CITED AND RESOURCES
University of Virginia, American Slave Narratives
The Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, Emory University
The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, Or Gustavus Vassa, The African (1789)
Special thanks to Steven Mintz, University of Texas at Austin
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White European history don't even record the existence of White Irish slaves. The United Kingdom (UK) is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
So you mean to tell me that the UK which includes Ireland has no historic record of Irish slaves in the New World?
The thing about indentured servants is all the boss had to whenever your contract was about to run out was claim that you broke his plow or something now you owe him 5 more years. Many indentured servants became essentially lifetime slaves that way.
Together we stand divided we fall ,one race the human race .
We are our brothers keeper ❤️💯
He was my cousin 7th great Grandfather!! He owned a plantation
You guys need to go to the slavery museum in Charleston, S.C. It will show you that only 5% of all sub-Sahara slaves trading came to what would be the USA. At the time, Florida was Spanish, the Mississippi Delta area, huge area, was French and the East Coast British. All had slaves. The USA was by far the furthest distance they were sent. Thus, more expensive. In South 20:25 America , slaves were cheap and literally worked to death. Slave families far more rare due to death rates and owner ruthlessness. Similarly, with the Caribbean islands. Worked to death, poor hygiene and living conditions. In the USA area, slaves, being more valuable, got better treatment. You’ve probably seen slave quarters in former plantations. Not wonderful, but similar to Elvis’ birth house in Tupelo. Better than my very white father lived in for awhile, living in a chicken coop, and my German immigrant family, living in a hole in the ground that they themselves excavated, living there for 7 years before they had the resources to build a house. I’m not saying slavery was good. Never. However, if you were one of the lucky of the unlucky 5% sent to North America, you likely lived in a structure like a cabin, crammed in with your family, which you were allowed to have, were able to work overtime outside your slave gig and eventually buy your freedom. Your owner had incentive to keep you alive, healthy and not belligerent. Many were freed in owners’ wills. Again, slavery sucked and still sucks, but the USA wasn’t the most evil or dangerous place a slave could land, as much as some would want you to believe otherwise.
If anyone of these four young men, "The CartierFamily" come across this comment please do your research and redo this video. Anthony Johnson was not the first slaveowner in America. The first slaveowner in America was a White man by the name of Hugh Gwyn. The first slave in America name was John Punch owned by Hugh Gwyn.
1st legal slave owner is the key
LEGAL. LEGAL SLAVE OWNER! Gotta remember that blacks were not lawfully considered slaves till 1621.
@@gusto8069 Hugh Gwyn had an indentured negro servant named John Punch. John Punch attempted to escape from Virginia to Maryland and was sentenced on July 19th, 1640, by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve the remainder of his natural life as a slave. Both John Punch and John Casor servitudes were decided by court rulings in Virginia. The rulings gave both their masters permanent ownership of the men. John Punch was the first documented person that was deemed by a court of law to serve as a permanent servitude in America. Thus, John punch became the first slave on record in America and Hugh Gwyn the slaveowner.
Something I did not know, now I have to do some research. Thanks for sharing
Back in those days the treatment of indentured servants , as well as free people working for wages, was very harsh.
Indeed in cases it was but we do not know to what degree in all cases, just like today if you watch the news as an outsider to this planet you would think all we do is kill, beat, steal, blow up and rape - how often do you see positive stories being reported? I am not saying life was great for the majority just that it also wasn't all like the extreme, after all this was valuable property to the owners so surely they weren't whipping everyone to within and inch of their life and chopping off their right foot thereby losing money. Some slaves and indentured servants were treated horrifically, some were treated well and the majority no doubt spread out somewhere in between, slavery was still wrong no matter how they were treated.
That was reality in all societies, the poor were considered inferior and treated very badly as subsistence farmers in Europe previously serfs/peasants. Poor were always slaves to chiefs, Lords, etc. They could order all men to go to war, there was no choice, the poor were never free. The word Slave comes from the Slavic peoples of Europe.
"In the 9th century, Slavs were frequently targeted and enslaved by tribes from the Iberian Peninsula and North Africa, and the Latin word sklava, meaning both "Slavonic" and "captive," was born"
According to Thomas Sowell, many black slave owners were known to be more cruel than white slave owners. Also, a good example of one who was kind was Ulysses S. Grant. He was criticized by others for not beating his slaves, as was the custom. He got down in the trenches and worked with them, which was practically unheard of. Also, between the Mexican-American war and the Civil War he went back to his life and was basically poor. At a time when his slave was pretty much the most valuable "asset" that he had, he freed him. Upon condition of surrender during the Civil War, he made it a point to require the southern officers to surrender their property, knowing full well that the term used also required them to surrender (ergo: free) their slaves.
Well since you think being enslaved wasn't so bad, maybe you should offer up yourself as someone's property to be bought and sold on a whim with no say.
You could happily sing in the fields in the hot and humid south and thank your massa everyday for being kind and benevolent.
@@melshome6745 Tell me where I said that. You won't find it anywhere, so get over yourself. I was addressing comments that they were making during the course of the video. History can be messy, and not everything is cut and dry. They made comments and expressed curiosity as to how/if the black slave owners were kind(er) to the slaves or not. Historically/Factually there's documentation that many were worse. There's also documentation that some white slave owners were not cruel. I provided an example of U.S. Grant. Stop being poised and ready for a fight where there is none. I'm sure it's probably exhausting. There's no fight to be had here.
@@ksullivan7345white people love Thomas Sowell, huh?
@@ksullivan7345 i'm speaking about how people are trying to make like slavery wasn't so bad. They want to teach children that slaves learned skills. They are trying to whitewash history.
The narrative is that "slavery was bad but really some slaves had it good" So black people should stop complaining and stop with the reparations.
You can quote Sowell who at every turn tries to appease white people saying that black people are really the slave owners. By the way the first slave owner was not a black man but I guess it easier to sleep at night thinking that.
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@@melshome6745I'm a slave in this country All the work I do the government takes half my money to give to people that aren't working I don't mind helping people out but I don't like people taking my money I'm a free man and we're none of us are free we're enslaved to the billionaires of this country get over it I'm gay You think you're the only one that's been mistreated in this country that's racist I got news for you You should hear some of my stories but you don't care All you care is about black people that's racist Open your eyes take your racist goggles off and look at the world the way it is and the way you instead of how you want it to be You can't rewrite history You my friend are a racist
Wait the Indians suffered too! My grandmother was full blooded!! I rgyi own alot 😢
Unfortunately slavery has not ended... It's just changed. 😢
For the time he lived, he was a business man, obviously a good one. There were slaves during the time of moses. It's been here as long as society.
Then it is time to end.
nope we are slaves to the machine AI, we just dont know it yet@@paxhumana2015
It’s crazy what history wasn’t taught to us in school.
My Irish ☘️ history here…
We are family dudes! Lol
My grandma and grandpa were gullah geechee from the islands off coast of Charleston S.C
Anthony Johnson was not the first slaveholder in America. The first slaveholder was Hugh Gwyn, a wealthy White landowner in Virginia. Hugh Gwyn had an indentured negro servant named John Punch. John Punch attempted to escape from Virginia to Maryland and was sentenced on July 19th, 1640, by the Virginia Governor's Council to serve the remainder of his natural life as a slave. Thus, John punch became the first slave on record in America and Hugh Gwyn was his owner.
TRUTH
Hugh was only granted lifetime ownership of one individual slave. Anthony Johnson made it where all slavers could buy and own unlimited people. Not quite the same thing here.
@@adamprice3466 I posted this below 13 hours ago. Please look it up the two articles.
Ok .... let's look up the truth about Anthony Johnson put these 2 articles in your browser "The Curious History of Anthony Johnson: From Captive African to Right-wing Talking Point"
"We and They in Colonial America Facing History & Ourselves"
**Spoiler Alert
Also in these articles you will find that Hugh Gwyn (a whyt guy) was the first slave owner.
On October 19th 1870, 7 African Americans were elected to The House of Representatives for the first time. Another fact not taught in school
Never heard that before
Yet in America a black person wasn't classed as equal to a white person until the 1960's.
During reconstruction there were over 1500 black men who held political office.
What happened you ask? Well the compromise of 1877 which effectively ended reconstruction.
After that the Southern states are free to do as they please which is to codify and enforce segregation and stop blacks from voting.
I hope you were taught about how black people were treated in the south from 1877 to 1967. (the klan, lynchings etc)
That was a good one. Beneficial, relaxed, and in good faith.
The world has gotten better. During the industrial revolution the use of orphans and poor children were put to work in the factories and mines, children were often preferred as employees, because owners viewed them as more manageable, cheap labor. Very few government regulations on working conditions and hours. Children often had to work under very dangerous conditions.
Johnson couldn’t have been a good owner because the guy wouldn’t have ran away if he was think about that the guy ran away
A servant is a slave! You were someone’s property!!! A servant was basically the “middle class” slave
Black people in chattel slavery were never middle class
Very informative information thanks guys👍🏾.
The Irish were the first slaves, but no one ever talks about it. This showed a very little of it. Bars back then were called Public Houses, now we say Pubs. Anyway, you will sometimes walk into bars (Irish Bars) and they still have the signs that read “Niggers Welcomed, Irish Need Not Apply.” Blacks were offered jobs before Irish people. True story. Look into it. Americans need to go back to teaching Civics and real History about everything. The more we know about all of our history, the better we will be for it. Thank you guys for this channel. I enjoy watching it. God Bless.❤
The Irish were not the first slaves. But, they may well have been the first slaves in the US. Slavery has always been with us AND STILL IS! The African continent has and still is a hotbed of slavery. To be fair in past times if you went to war with your neighbour, as the victor you had only two choices, kill everyone, or enslave the “best and most useful”, bring them home and integrate their offspring into your tribe , or trade them on to labour hungry peoples from far away.( you didn’t want them too close, in case they made their way home to make more trouble in the future. Other than by trade slaves could be “harvested from coastal areas and sold on at great profit. This is why “Slaves”are called Slaves. The word comes from “Slaves” and of course were white.