As a black man from one of the deepest ghettos in Jamaica i can tell you the most empowering thing you could ever do is to not define yourself by your race but as a unique individual. It's like taking off a metal armour. It's a special type of freedom. You guys are on the right path
Exactly well said! Negative black culture is a ball and chain of self-destruction and any smart black person will do anything they can to separate themselves from it.
As soon as you define yourself by your race you chain your value to something you personally cannot control. Nobody should carry the burden of representing a whole race. It is an impossible expectation. The white liberals goal to make blacks think they need to be united only hurts them. Whites are in no way united they are split 50/50 on almost every issue.
Real black culture is right in the room right now. Young men being civil. Intelligent with morals not degrading to each other getting educated. Open minds. I love watching you guys.
That's not black culture, that's American culture. And these fine young men are American through and through. I'm proud to stand by them, regardless of the color of their skin. It's the content of character, not skin color!
They’re getting close to the real issues. White cap guy said we don’t need more rappers, we need to raise up black people doing things like work a nine to five. He’s almost asking the right questions. Why are those rappers pushed by the labels? Guys praising violence and murder, calling women bitches, n word every other line, drugs drugs drugs. These people are glorified by ghetto culture. George Floyd becomes a hero cuz the media said so. Reality is Floyd was a drug addicted criminal loser who was always gonna die a violent death related to drugs and crime. Race baiters like Al Sharpton, Joy Reid, Barack Obama make millions by telling black people they’re victims. Somehow, they got rich, but tell you the white man is keeping all black people down. Obama made $30 million while he was president. Clinton made $42 million while he was president. They’ve both made many millions more after leaving the White House. Ask the right questions. You’ll soon realize it’s all lies, corruption, and bullshit meant to keep black people poor and dependent on government.
Young men, as an older black man and veteran what, I can tell you is that you’re making black culture by looking at different ideas and making up your own minds. So proud of you guys.
Greg, thanks for serving in the forces. I hope you got a lot out of your experience, and didnt get injured or anything too badly. I appreciate the people who've kept this country safe. Also, I agree with you about these young men. They are doing a great job, and I love seeing them get a lot of views. This country will get so much better if we can help all of our people in the rougher subcultures get past what's holding them back. Sowell talks about it with whites and blacks, but I feel the Hispanics also have some as well, and probably some other groups that I don't even know about. Overall, I just think it's awesome to see people working to make their lives better, because if they succeed..... they can make their families lives better and their communities better.... those are all wins, for everyone! There is much stuff on TV that makes me feel negative about the future... then I see these guys, and see the truth... there are a lot of good people out there.
Amen to that, I am also a veteran. I believe active duty gives you the opportunity to meet people that you may not have ever met. People from all walks of life, it makes you more well rounded in so many ways. I admire these men for thinking outside the box, not because they were told but because they want to explore other ideas.
yep. and the guy in the back was onto another issue. we need to make more out of people outside of the entertainment industry. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, journalists, engineers, etc. We can be more than just court jesters.
As an older black woman, I'm so glad to see you young black men having discussions regarding these matters. I pray that you continue to grow in knowledge and wisdom.
I agree. They and others should read 'The Rise and Fall of Violent Crime in America' by criminal justice scholar Barry Latzer, who outlines why old Southern culture is a huge factor in crime although no one likes to admit it because it's politically incorrect (not sure why as culture is not the same as race!). Crime first skyrocketed in various American cities right after the beginning of the 20th century because the southern Italians came in droves and with them, their strong cultural sense of personal 'honor' and propensity to resolve interpersonal conflicts, like disrespect, with violence. Then it happened again when black Americans migrated north, who carried with them, that old Southern culture which shares many similarities to the southern Italian culture, which they absorbed of course through no fault of their own as they were forced to live amongst Southern people for many generations. So they brought that culture to urban cities in the North where they lived in geographical and social isolation, and those cultural values, instead of evolving into something else or dying all together, flourished. Look at the gang violence, kids shooting each other because of stupid stuff like perceived insults to one's manhood or image. It's still happening today. This is exactly what the Italians immigrants used to do way back in the year 1910.
I agree, but they need to get their facts straight. Sowell is NOT a democrat. He’s a leader in the conservative movement. He dropped Marxism and the Dems more than 50 years ago.
As a black 57 year old woman, this made me feel so proud to see young black men conducting a discussion that goes against the news media's narrative of who we are. Thank you for being brave enough to break the stereotype chains the media salivates over.
Wrong. If a stereotype is accepted and embodied. It doesn't matter what the media says. The cat on the right was correct. You have to change the pioneers and voice of the culture. All these kids wouldn't have face tattoo's if shit rappers weren't influencing their immediate culture and ego. This has nothing to do with media but an individuals embodiment of what they represent.
@mr. nihilz There is not a right or wrong when it comes to appreciating one another for positive intentions. I agree with you and hope you are a part of what you speak.
Look, I'm white. I've been apart of "bad" cultures too. I left those cultures behind to succeed in life. It's an obvious issue amoung AA culture. Some thing we should talk about without being labeled as racist. Bevause it's not racist to note bad methods, philosophy, attitudes and actions.
I'm a 62 year old white man from England and have watched you guys for years. I hope you are having an influence to other Americans of all races. Keep it up fellas.
Damn as a 50 year old black man I am so happy and proud to hear these perspectives, young people like you who are willing to open up their minds to reality and recognize the inner power and control you have in your own lives gives me hope for the future. Spread your knowledge.
So true. Victim mentality is worse than a crutch, it's a cancer. We need to go back to MLK's teachings and focus on the charter of the person not the colour of the person's skin. Universities are segregating campuses based on race and this is seen as "empowering minorities". It's really depressing that we're regressing after all the strides to get past all that garbage. Young people need to put a stop to this because they have the reins.
As an African who moved to the UK in 2006, I initially never saw myself as oppressed as I focused on the positives of being black, whilst some of my associates focused on oppression. Today most of them are behind bars, and I'm still growing to be the best version of myself. What you focus on, you'll become 💭
my friend in barbados feels the same. that's why now i say "black americans", because not all black people have the same culture. america is just dumb on the surface, that's why they think all hispanics/latinos are the same culture too 😂
allow me as a pastor in a church to springboard your wisdom for a moment... King, we often speak of looking at The Lord in worship as "beholding" Him, an Old English term. One day I had the thought, along with your term "focus on" , that what I am beholding , I will one day...be holding. The thing in everyday life I am fixated on, will one day come to pass in daily life, good or bad. Love your testimonial of growing!!😇
I'm a white 73 year old man, retired professional, college graduate. I have been watching you guys often reacting to music. I find you guys entertaining as you discover the jewels from years gone by. But, today watching you guys was heart warming. You are respect of each other, and your minds are open. The media in America has a bias of omission (they don't report a lot of stuff you need to know.). Black White, we are all the same. Sin and greed has corrupted the world. I think you guys are onto it. I like you all. I wish you the very best and I will continue watching you!
54 year old white male here, I agree with you 100%. When I first started watching these young men they were reviewing a Larry legend video. They seemed a bit biased but as I watched more of their videos I started to see the open mindedness and they also have started to listen to the videos they watch and talk over each other less.
56 white man here. I have enjoyed a lot of the videos these guys do and always enjoy listing to how they discus issues. We need more of this and they give me hope.
57 year old white guy here too. Thanks for giving us hope. You guys get to inherit America. Enjoy it. You deserve it for making the world a better place.
PLEASE do more Thomas Sowell! Thomas Sowell should be taught in every school. This man knows so much. It is a shame he doesn't get the chance to get the attention and rewards he deserves. There is more than just this. I would suggest reading his books, and watching other interviews.
I have Basic Economics. It's amazing. I took Economics in college but I never understood it the way I do now since reading that book. He explains things in such realistic ways that are so easy to understand and uses real life examples for his theories. He is such an amazing teacher.
@@staceykudera8558 ye such an amazing teacher. so easy to understand. doesnt use big wordsor facts. just spouts unproven dangerous untrue therios. hes an absolute shit. ignore sowell. better yet research the heck out of sowell. see for yourself.
@@b.entranceperium he learned his philosophy from Milton Friedman, who is responsible for the shit state the economy has been in since Reagan. cycles of boom and bust with massive wealth inequality is what he is a proponent of. make no mistake... he is a conservative propagandist and nothing he says holds any actual merit in the real world.
It’s very refreshing to see young men have healthy conversations about society and questioning what they know and does it hinder or help them grow. Continue to strive for better.
I am a black womam who didn't grow up with black subculture. There isn't one black culture but it's always a stereotype and not indicative of everyone as a whole. How you are raised and where you are from frames that as well. My mom is black, and my father it turns out is biracial. My step-mother, who is white, helped raise me. I lived with my father. They were married in the late 60's. My father expected greatness. There was no victim mentality. I spoke standard English. I loved reading and my vocabulary is vast because I loved literature (especially Russian literature). I am successful and educated. There were no limitations placed in my consciousness and that makes a huge difference. Yet, in college, the black kids wouldn't speak to me because my white step-mother dropped me off and I was deemed--not being black enough. It hurt me deeply but I learned to just be myself and not care what they think. Foundation and mindset are crucial. I don't want other people making excuses for me or apologizing for my bad choices. Personal responsibility has left the building in the US and today's race issues are so skewed it's ridiculous and sometimes scary. I love Thomas Sowell. He exposes the truth and I'm proud these young men see it.
Bingo! As I always say, Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) is key to success, regardless of race! Dr. Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum and others in the Black community that talk about this as well, I'm sure you're big fans of them too :)
AGHHHH... as a white woman from England.... Good Lord I cannot wait for us all to be blended!!! We are all HUMANS! don't have to be white or dark black! I hate all of this! We are all one race..the human race! I LOVE my black friends so deeply and yet we still have "this' thing...ugh it's so dumb to me!! However, with all that said... I hate it when I hear anybody say AXS for Ask!! LORD!!
I like what you said. It "sounded" so rational. I found these men a little hard to listen to because of the interruptions and stoppages but I appreciate their honest approach to the subject. As an older person I already know some of what they are covering but with patience I may learn a little more.
So true. Once I saw it I am unable to unsee it. It’s annoying sometimes. Be watching a movie and I can see the undertones and half time people are telling me to just shut up. It’s hard to slip back into ignorance once you see it. Btw I don’t think ignorance is bliss
Best thing I've seen on TH-cam today. These five young men make me more optimistic about our future. There is no singular "black" identity, any more than there's a singular "white" identify, yet people don't see that when they're bogged down in identify politics.
Some entertainment figures profit by portraying stereotypes and cliches, so these cultural monoliths get perpetuated. I don't think most gangsta rappers, or whatever the current tag is, speak for the average black person, any more than Kid Rock speaks for me.
I'm from Brazil and always get scared when I noticed people in US do not know about Thomas Sowell. For me, one of the greatest minds in US, still alive. It's never too late!!!
This is because what black american culture has become over the years. The youth have been groomed to idolize black Hollywood, gangsters, rappers and athletes. Every single one of these groups are the armpit of black America..uneducated , clueless and promote the worst things imaginable without caring one bit they are role models to the youth. It’s got to a point where political parties pay these “famous” blacks for them to promote their party and the kids will follow without a clue of what’s actually going on. It’s not their fault technically because it starts at home. 70% of these kids grow up in single home families , usually w no father and as they say, u don’t find a father at home u find him on the street …. Thomas is someone many blacks call Uncle Tom because they think He acts white !!! He don’t act white. He don’t talk white!!! He acts and talks like an intelligent black man to me that cares for his people. He’s going against the grain trying to force a change … people like him help start groups like cartierfamily and officer Tatum … god bless them all
As a white male and an ex combat veteran, these men remind me of some of my friends I served with. They worked hard, stood for their beliefs, color was never a thing for us. I appreciate men who are smart enough to weed through todays BS, and understand they can decide their own path…. I love that kind of power. Strong men=Strong results.
The Democrat party try to mask control with concern. They want to keep the black people down . Democrats were carpet baggers after the Civil War. They have always wanted to keep those of EVERY RACE poor and dependent. TMO
@@Jiminy-trxas a is a good signal that they’ve never interacted with anyone other than their own. Lol now we need more black people to drop to their knees and make them feel welcome
As an older black American, this video gives me hope for the future of the black community, fantastic young black American men. Not look at yourselves as victims.
I am so happy you did not African American. That is just another phrase from Race Hustler's. We are all Americans no matter the pigment god blessed us with.
Worst thing you can do. Democrat party wants to keep blacks victims. As a white American it’s plain to see what’s happening. Get away from Democrats as fast as you can.
Exactly, complex problems of society require clear and level-headed exploration, mutual respect, based on facts, full disclosure of any bias, honesty, and completely devoid of emotional manipulation or mob-rule. We can not allow the least mature people to dominate simply because they yell loudest.
This is about bull sh.t European culture embodies genocide of Native American people along with theft of their land and valuable resources. Many of the early settlers were slaveholders who beat raped and murdered many of their slaves with no legal recourse. After slavery ended many black Americans who were regarded citizens were still subjected to laws and customs of this country that denied them their rights with indignant treatment. Again European culture is the culture of rape murder and theft to gain their semblance of success. After slavery white culture endured people such as Billy the Kid and Jesse James who were murderers and robbers. After the crime wave of the post Civil War period white culture led to the rise of organized crime dominated by immigrant Irish Italians and Jews and others. We all have heard of the MOB and corrupt judges and politicians who represented a lawless culture. Thomas Sowell’s head is in the sand. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not race hustlers but advocates who are addressing issues to improve the lives of black Americans. Redlining exists along with disinvestment in black communities such as real estate owned by black Americans being assessed lower than their white counterparts. The justice system is designed to harm blacks more than whites. This list goes on and on!!
I applaud you brothers for talking about Thomas Sowell. He's a brilliant mind that has been kept out of media for so long because he speaks against the narrative.
I’m a white man and I’m proud to see these 5 in this video being analytical, honest and based with this conversation. I as a white man have seen a lot of ignorance in these discussions because people don’t want to talk the truth. Especially in front of a white man…We need more people like these 5 because being analytical, based and honest is the first steps for improvement. If you ignore all this then how are you meant to know why and how to remove the problems…Great video, keep doing what you’re doing👏
HES A SELLOUT OVERALL.. BUT HE ALSO DOES MAKE GOOD FACTUAL POINTS.. BUT OTHER MORE PRO BLACKS COVER THIS AND MORE.. SOWELL IS JUST A PAID PUPPET OF MILTON FRIEDMAN..
Thomas Sowell is 92 years old. That’s 92 years of reading, studying, research, life experience and wisdom. He also has a research team. You can’t argue with him. You will lose. One of the most brilliant minds of our time and one of my heroes. Yet so many have no idea who he is.
The universities refuse to teach the critical liberal minds like him and John McWhorter completely. They only teach Kendi, and Robin DeAngelo. They refuse to teach both and let people develop their own critical thinking abilities. Instead they opt for a specific narrative, whereby if you argue your moral character is put into question.
We need more honest conversations like this. Not the race baiting that fills the media and politics. Government and the wealthy prosper as they divide us.
Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson are a couple of role models to emulate. Plus it would be beneficial not to separate by race or anything else All men are created equal 🇺🇸
Sowell is 92. He won’t be physically with us someday, but his mind and words will be here as long as people want to learn. All his ideas are explained so well in his books and they’re not hard to read and understand. I love him!
Yeah, Thomas Sowell is one of the few people lucky enough who will live past his time on this earth, through people's memory and his work he leaves behind. I hope he feels content with all he's done.
Thomas Sowell was a Democrat (until 1972) and became Independent (after 1972) ....Thomas Sowell got off the Democratic Plantation and never looked back and has been correcting the record ever since.
@@yogijager not even close!! I stand corrected on my comment. I haven't studied him long so I wasn't aware that he at one point in his younger years was a Marxist but has now come to his senses and understand how this world works and what's actually important
By his own words, Thomas Sowell described himself as a dedicated Marxist in his early years of education. He has come a long way, lived almost a century by now, seen all fads and fallacies for what they are. I applaud him, respect him.
As a half White half Aboriginal Man form Western Australia, all I can say is "Keep Questioning your current culture". Take what is positive, throw away the rest. Never blame. Keep climbing. You men are inspiring, truly. Thank you.
Super important. The deification of culture the concept is a death trap. Culture is a consequence of how you live. Don't pay attention to it, don't go out of your way to preserve it. Let it be a consequence, not an end goal. The GOAL is living well.
What is this blame argument so you would not accept reperations from the Australian government if offered or are you insinuating that what happened was acceptable!
I absolutely love the genuine debating amongst yourselves. This is literally how it's done. People getting together and discusing controversial subjects to the point that all sides can listen and understand and communicate their opinions without being ridiculed. 🎉 you all are amazing...and entertaining..keep up the great work
I'm a white 60 year old woman and I am proud to see you guys progressing further in life with learning and sharing your discussions and thoughts..ideas. kudos 👏
As a 72 year old white woman, I really live your take on this. When I think of black culture, I remember Motown and how they dressed, how great the music was, I think of Jazz and Blues and how your culture has influenced our music and in turn, my memories of my youth. Thomas Sowell is a treasure to everyone and we are all made better by his wisdom and insight.
I'm a Cuban born man in my 50s and if there one thing that black people should be proud of their culture is the musical influence on all other genre of music and I'm not talking rap but blues , jazz , grass , Motown as well as dances.✌
My mom says that. Back when they made real music. They r using rappers to indoctrinate black people to destroy themselves and the culture is totally disrupted
I love watching you guys do these videos. The best part is that you're all willing to challenge yourselves, and you all support each other. It's a wonderful thing to see, and it's a great example for everyone to learn from. Thanks, guys.
And let's not define other people either. It breaks my heart every time I hear black men refer to black women as less than human. Black women are talented humans, not b*ches. Same goes for black men, they're not ninjas, they're our brothers.
Yes, discussing real issues helps people grow. They stopped the video now and again and went into the ideas. But then, when they started the video back, there was silence as they were glued to the idea of learning more. You can see how their focus was intense. They were 100% invested in learning more. To challenge what they had been told to believe. Agree, disagree, disregard, it didn't matter. These guys became involved. That is truly wonderful.
@Lol okay Wow. Yeah, that’s depressing. What a shame, given the inherent power of our technologies to promote good; it seems like the opposite is what happens all the time. I feel like the entities responsible for promoting violent and antisocial ideas in hip hop hate black people and hate humanity. Black Americans have contributed so much to the world that is beautiful and life-giving and eminently worthy of respect and praise, yet raunchy, violent rap has probably been promoted and spread out to the world much more than their other, truly awesome contributions.
As a white guy, I love this discussion and you guys are inspiring. I found you because I follow Thomas Sowell and love and admire his work. He is never mean and never bombastic or condescending, but man he is a full-blown genius. I think your group will change many thousands of lives for the better if you keep doing these videos in this incredibly humble way. Thrashing things out in a group is so effective in sending a positive message.
Such a great video guys. I am an 80 year old white woman who had watched that Sowell interview so wanted to see your reaction to what he stated. I am pleased to see your responses. I think a lot of what he said was to make sure the people you follow, black/white/etc. are worth listening to. So much all of us hear today is either right/left thinking.Fill your mind with the truth and you will not go wrong.
I'm an older white man an i watch you guys a lot. I enjoy your perspective on things. And we all can learn a lot from our history. Knowledge is power. Have a nice day.
As an 81 year old white man reared in segregated south, I must say this is the best , by far, conversation ever on yourtube. These young men present a better generation than their predecesors. Just love to see men using such common sense interpreting real life in this country. I hope they can spread their viewpoint to the other colored men in their generation . Makes me really feel like their is hope for this country after all. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this video for all the world to see. Please continue spreading your message. Also , Thomas Sowell is a true american treasure (patriot) for us all to study and implement his common sense views. Have a great day and continue with your passion in presenting a positive cultural change for your and future generation.
So refreshing to see young black Americans having fun and discussing important political matters that are really prevelant in our country and lives. Thank y’all!
The dude in the white hat is on top of his shit. We are products of our environment and I’m glad to see you guys stepping out of that “if you’re black you have to be ghetto” mentality. I’ve told many of my friends the same thing growing up. Much respect fellas.
@@slatebook2384 exactly my point. Just as I did. But yes being raised in one situation or another can determine the type of mind set an individual can have. You grow up in the country around deer hunting all the time odds are you’re going to love deer hunting as a result. Pretty simple.
@@odyesus9893 Indeed. We have a choice between being a bad person or a good one. What amazed me is that since the 70' bad ones are praised/admired/supported in movies, music, arts, politics and in all western countries.
Agreed. 29:28-29:50 is very true and applicable to ANYONE encountering another race especially if you have little experience with that race your interacting with imo.
Not many of our people know of Thomas Sowell. He’s a brilliant man who understands the black experience. I’ve never heard his name mentioned during black history month. But he should be. I applaud these gentlemen for taking the time to dissect this interview. You give me hope for your generation.
Sowell rants against affirmative action while having gotten into Harvard based on affirmative action. He rails against welfare while having had the state pay for both his original career in the military and then paid for his education at Harvard. The problem of course is not Sowell any more than it is with any 'intellectual', the problem is the governments that listen to them and the lack of lobbyists. He constantly talks about the necessity of higher education, although lately what gets shown is the stuff where he tirades against colleges like the one that educated HIM. Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society. You will be cleaning up behind somebody or serving somebody the rest of your days. But his remarks about education get lost in the mix. Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. The massive bloated bureaucracy he complains about, and yet NO liberal argues for bureaucracy, but for the same thing. A society that makes sure each person can live up to their potential, and help them out when they can't. THOSE things get lost in the mix and instead are non ending conversations about political correctness and terminology. Thats the mark of not living in a democracy, people play NO part in the actual decision making, so you need to pretend that they are playing a part by endless pontificating.
@@mikearchibald744 Where is the evidence that he got into Harvard based on affirmative action? "Welfare" =/= "government paying for stuff". "Welfare" = "government paying for stuff while you give nothing in return". Him being in the military was a trade. He signed a contract that stated that he would do X and the government in return would do Y. "Welfare" is only one way. "against colleges like the one that educated HIM" Gee, it's almost like those institutions have changed since he was in them. "Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society." I mean, that was true a millenia ago. The problem is that people seem to think that the only route to "education" is through the university system. "Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. " Where has he argued for such? Nevermind that social security is essentially a racket, whereby the money you supposedly "put in" is not worth the same when you are able to "take out".
@@groerulesyourface Affirmative action was used since before world war 2, it was a method to get education to people who didn't access it before. The GI Bill was a form of affirmative action where soldiers were put into college without having the requisite high school diplomas or marks. But congratulations, thats the typical level of Sowell fan, to start a debate with "your so ignorant". He'd be so proud.
@@cstgraphpads2091 He was a soldier with only middling marks as he admitted. He got into Harvard, you do the math. Welfare is government doing shit IT DOESN"T NEED TO DO. A military is exactly that, in every war soldiers are brought on board and quickly trained and sent to war. There are countries with almost no military, one of which is now been fighting a major power for a year without one, and there are militaries that are essentially not in use, like Switzerland or Norway. So thats the welfare state. Soldiers are trained for jobs that for the most part don't exist and WON"T exist, unless the state puts them into action, thats why early american libertarians were even against STATE rights becaues they said permanent militaries are the first sign of the welfare state. Just becaues a country keeps starting wars doesn't change that fact, actually it proves it. So what you call 'productive' is irrelevant. A single mother raising a child to YOU might not be 'productive', which is ironic because conservatives complain so much that women should at least be able to stay home with the children. But if there is no husband, suddenly that function is 'not productive'. Sowell keeps on about these MOSTLY fictional 'just lazy people' who are supposedly collecting welfare while doing nothing, ironically the society has no problem using government to throw money at the owners of Raytheon, the owners of which have NEVER done any work for decades. NOW the value of education is WAY beyond what it was in the past. The surest way to stay in poverty is to only have a high school education. You think you are going to be a doctor or engineer by saying "hey, I've read all the textbooks in my spare time at home". Good luck with that. You can learn a TRADE without college, but that puts you at the mercy of that trade and essentially dictates where you can live. I know tons of welders, great skill to have but there are no jobs in it here. I see you don't really get the gist of social security, the money you get out is WAY more than the money you put in, just like an RRSP in an institution is way more than what you put in, thats the whole point. Without social security the country would be a full on third world country.
From a veteran. Some of the most important leaders and relationships in my life have been from persons who are black. Also, you fellas are showing what black culture is right here. It's easily recognizable, you're diplomatic, thinking freely, speaking freely, open minded, compassionate, empathetic, tolerant, and intelligent. For my brothers who are black that I served with. You are brave warriors, disciplined, patriotic, inspirational, selfless, godly, charismatic, and noble. They got me through some of the most real struggles this world can throw at men. Nothing but love and respect. These round table discussions you guys do says black culture is alive, healthy, and prospering in you guys.
I'm so glad you guys loved him! You guys were talking about "not being able to fix anything because it's too far gone" ... you're helping to fix it now! Keep doing exactly what you're doing. Help others become aware. Not only black people but everyone because everyone has challenges and barriers that need overcome and awareness is the first step. You guys are on the right path! So proud of all of you! ❤ Not everyone, regardless of culture or race, seeks truth like you guys are!
😊Lol It is particular members of the white race that are vehemently and even violently at school board meetings, NOT seeking the truth. Why aren't you asking them, as young Black men to help make particular white people aware of their misperceptions about the intellectual differences between races?
@@YaHUKaB_ShaRaYAL_YaShaRAL Discrimination and Disparities Sowell is correct that intentional racial discrimination (according to Sowell’s classification, Discrimination 1b and 2) at a given juncture - say, racial discrimination by an employer - cannot fully explain Black-White racial disparities in economic outcomes. It does not follow, however, that therefore the remaining racial disparity not explained by acute racial discrimination is not caused by racism in society. Sowell concludes that, for instance, employers and realtors and bankers will make choices about hiring or real estate or loans based on the relevant qualities the individual brings to the table, such as education, credit scores, criminal or eviction history, and so on (this is what he calls Discrimination 1a). People have differences in the quantity and quality of these they can bring to the table, and thus it is perfectly reasonable to find inequalities in economic outcomes. What is not answered by this, however, is why these inequalities would be unevenly distributed by race. It’s certainly not a realtor’s fault that there is a Black-White disparity in credit score, but that difference is not a natural fact of the universe. I and most other social scientists believe that there is inherited inequality from the entire history of American social life that at least in part accounts for why the distribution of these sorts of things are unequal by race. The literature on inherited racial inequalities in sociology, economics, and history is simply massive and cannot be hand-waved away. As it stands, Sowell’s argument on this point is hopelessly endogenous. This argument is also wrapped up with the claim that any government intervention intended to reduce disparities will result in unintended consequences that will most likely make things worse for the people you’re trying to help. This is, in the terms of Albert Hirschman, the “perversity thesis” - the common conservative argument that whatever change you want to implement in society will actually do the opposite of what you want it to do. The reason why this rhetorical move has power is because it seems intuitively true, and sometimes policies do have consequences of this kind. But it simply does not logically follow from the example that some such policies backfired that any such policy inevitably will.
These young men are not buying into the stereotypes…They are defining their own place in this world! YOU ARE KILLING IT💕 From your biggest Canadian Fan supporter/fan 🇨🇦
@@paulhester489 Thomas Sowell is overused because there aren't enough big names that can say this shit, back it up, and get away with it because they can't get stamped with the "racist" label by woke dipshits
The world NEEDS more conversations like this among young black Americans. This was incredible to listen to and brings so much perspective to things. Loved this video. ❤
I also think it would do young white Americans some good to watch, listen and seriously discuss these issues too. They may be the newest "victims" in our society because of the pervasive and persuasive mentality that's being pushed in the public schools, social media and power-hungry politicians and their shills. It's fracturing our society, particularly in the young adult age group, and I think the cultural elites with all the money and power like George Soros and his foundation are behind all of this.
All I can say is Wow. I am a middle-aged white lady from the Midwest, and seeing the exchange of ideas and perceptions from this group of young men has been very enlightening.
Thomas Sowell is an absolute legend. Highly respected and highly intelligent. Warms my heart to hear you young men listening to someone that has been a mentor to so many.
I've listen to many of his informal lectures and from the first time I heard him I was in awe at his level of wisedom. Too many people have high IQs in academia to memorize highly manipulated information derived from echo chambers, but no wisedom. This is why their so-called "experts" are often so horribly wrong in their predictions. Worse, it is incredibly dangerous, because unlike Professor Sowell, typical academia buys into the absolute fallacy that basic human nature can be altered (even worse, they think it can be altered through theory alone today!) No matter how hard someone tries, one can not erradicate selfishness, greed, envy, and so on, from human nature. When it is tried, it ALWAYS ends in utter disaster. This is where Prof. Sowell steps in and would say, we can't alter human nature, but we know when people have freedom, stability, and hope, they are more likely to be happier, better people, and act as good role models. Thus the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness with boundaries ending where another's freedom begins, to which this is enforced though consent of the very people who enjoy those rights. Professor Sowell understood this well, which is why is really was an incredible man.
@@echo-channel77 agreed. I remember seeing Thomas Sowell on television when I was a little girl. My parents were watching something where a panel of people were having discussion. I remember they were really bickering and angry except for Thomas Sowell. He was the only one who made sense and gave his responses in a calm articulate demeanor.. I didn't know who he was at the time but he really stuck out as a voice of reason to me. Later as I got older I found out who he was. Brilliant man and a true gentleman.
Im neither black nor white..im from india...i love this episode so much...after countless videos from alleged experts..vid like this from the common man is like a breath of fresh air! Keep fighting guys💪💪
I am a 73 year old white, suburban, conservative, retired, New York metro college professor. I taught business and economics for over forty years and Thomas Sowell was my favorite economist during that entire period. I have watched many of your reaction videos and I always find them interesting and informative. What I love about The CF group is that you are teaching and learning at the same time. Please keep it up by being yourselves. I really like your different points of view and your different communication styles. I have subscribed and will continue to tune into your reaction productions. Thanks,
That’s right, I’m going to keep it up being myself. We are the most talked about race of people on the entire planet, Blacks in America. Black people this, Black people that. But I always look at the group of clowns criticizing our people. I say well, from what I see? All races have mess in it. For mr. Sowell to criticize Jesse, Al and other leaders, but they have helped out more than him. I have no respect for Mr. Sowell, all talk and I see no action. This need to be done and that, but just write a book, that benefit him, but Jesse and Al can’t reap benefits. LMAO Peace, much love. S/o to my people in the hood, some of you have more values than them
@@yo3rdtier128So basically you support 2 grifters that have single handedly done more harm than good...got it. Where are they when it's B on B crime? Where are they when B women are aborting their babies? Where are they when fathers leave the home? Where are they when mothers have 5 children with different fathers? Why is it they only show up when the W race is involved? Why don't they talk about crime against Asians? You know the reason just as we all do...there's no money in it.
@@yo3rdtier128 You really don't get it. You're another lost soul that's been brainwashed into believing the bullshit being forced upon you. Try educating yourself about true facts and not blindly believing what your leaders have told you to believe.
@@yo3rdtier128 FACTS!!! Thank you, I couldn't agree more. I've always understood why white people are drawn to Sowell, a sort of blessing from an older man of color that tells them that theirs no more inequality or systemic racism in this country, so it's ok to be happy with the status quo and continue acting like everything is fine. What I don't get is how many of the younger generation of black folks seem to really support what Sowell has to say. Last I checked Sowell was a brilliant economist, when did he start becoming the expert on American history and black culture?
The real black culture is beautiful … it’s unfortunate that is almost gone.. the faith, the moral, the compassion, the generosity., etc, etc .. ❤ I’m a recipient of it .. magical.
@@queenofnyc5584 culture is not something you create to identify you per say, its all the intellectual discoveries, inventions and art and innovations done collectively which describes one culture. That is every culture in a nut shell. Culture is not where you are from. The way you think of culture is a simplistic way of seeing it and is sold as the truth when it's not.
I moved to another country with my family and we had to get used to another accent and another culture. We decided to take on those mannerisms that were an improvement to ours but hang on to those parts of our accent that make communication clearer and easier to understand. Part of our instict is to keep on learning about ourselves and others for our whole lives. Even as whites among other whites, we don't always feel accepted or understood but we don't have to change completely. Just gradually learn to live and let live. It's so cool that you have heroes you can look up to and learn from. We all need them.
Congratulations young men!! For being brave and inquisitive and for giving Thomas Sowell your platform. So much to learn from this great American treasure!🇺🇸
As a White man, raised in Calgary, Alberta, it pains me deeply to see what is happening in our culture today. My best friend since I was 17, I moved to the US to live with mum to graduate, I met a Black guy. We became friends and actually best friends. I learned so many Life Lessons from this friend that they really are too many to name. He went through a lot of grief having a White friend I know. Gang influence and the resultant crime is tearing this country apart. He was also the best damn harp player that I ever heard, I play guitar. He was the God Father of my daughter, the best man at my wedding...... He died a few years ago, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't mourn some more.
Congratulations guys for discovering Mr. Sowell. I am a 62 yr old American woman , with Mexican heritage and I absolutely LOVE Mr. Sowell! He is such a treasure of knowledge, wisdom and many other virtues.
@Jesus A. Martinez yes, the author of We Wanted Workers, Jorge Borges. He discusses how illegal Immigration hurts Blacks and Latinos while enriching the wealthy and powerful and enslaving the illegal aliens. Great question, btw.
You guys really do make the viewer feel like they are in the circle and interacting with the conversation. This is authentic communication right here. Thank you guys for what you do!
This conversation could move the culture forward a 10000000 percent. Pure logic. Reasoning. Alot of self reflecting and honesty. You guys are a legendary group of young men and I feel honored to be the fly on the wall listening.
Those young men are an educator’s dream: they are listening, then listening again if they aren’t sure about hearing something correctly, looking up what they don’t know, processing what they’re hearing and talking about if they agree or disagree and why, and relating it to their own experiences. Keep being awesome, guys! Great to hear what you have to say.
This is great to see because college campuses across the US no longer allow these discussions, free thinking or debate to occur and disagreement is not allowed. They created “safe spaces” for those offended. Its ridiculous and does nothing to benefit our youth
They still need a lot of work. But education aint helping by lying to them about "dey culture" They all think they INVENTED JAZZ or PEANUT BUTTER. If they're learned from people like Sowell instead of liberal LIARS, they'd learn a lot more and probably would be outraged about all the lies.
@@reneechavez9866 isn’t university meant to be the one place you meant to debate and have intellectual warfare all these creating safe places is creating a society that is the most sensitive insensitive generation of that makes sense we ain’t allowed to have our own opinion anymore we forced to go along with all these new agendas they pushing heavy
The discussion you guys have here together is emblematic of how everyone should behave in society today: learning from a respected expert like Sowell and then having a civil, thoughtful discussion about important matters like history, identity, and culture in a way that elevates everyone in the room. Fantastic. Never stop thinking and questioning, this country needs people like you.
I love this conversation. I wish we would all learn to have good discourse these days. Thank you gentlemen for setting a high bar for us all. Much love to you.
yes if you believe his lies you will be convinced that racism isnt a problem. but ask these young black men how they feel around the police and you will soon see that Sowell is talking crap.
You guys are building the type of positive black culture you’re describing by making these videos. This was a very interesting conversation and everyone had a nuanced/intelligent take. I love it.
I’m a white guy. I grew up primarily in my younger years in south Florida. A large population of people from Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba all through my neighborhood. In the 1980s we all got along. People went to church together, school, the beach, etc. It wasn’t like it is today. Everyone getting offended by everything. I’m definitely subscribing. Keep up the great work.
Guys. I cannot get enough if this channel.. whether you realize it or not - you are creating smart, thoughtful and compassionate black culture right now. If you ever make it out to Connecticut I would invite you all over for dinner!
This conversation actually gives me hope for the future of younger generations of young Black men. There needs to be more of this type of conversation to wake our people up from the nightmare Black Culture has become in the last 20+ years.
@@sunshynff At 42 I've seen it go from "Stop the violence", "Self Destruction", "Say no to drugs" to become the exact opposite in our communities. Growing up in the projects was not looked at as something to brag about. Going to jail was not something that young Black youth looked at as a badge of honor. We believed that education was the key to success, not glorifying ignorant and ratchet behavior. Yes there absolutely is a problem with Black culture today. Somewhere down the line we stopped upholding the standards and dignity we once had that our elders tried so desperately to instill in us. We used to joke about "Bebe's kids" not knowing the whole culture would shift around it.
@@akiraxtreme ...Im not saying there isn't a problem within the black and brown community, I just hate seeing it being called culture. Culture with any lighter skin tone almost always relates to sophistication, (having) class, suave but you put culture and black together, and you're not at an African heritage festival or a social justice meeting, it automatically has a negative connotation. It's another way for the ruling class to marginalize a group, "other" them, convince the poorest whites, they're still better than those animals over there, it's in their culture, they can't control themselves. The other extremely dangerous aspect of chalking up the problems in black and brown communities to simply culture, is that if it becomes more commonplace or a full blown narrative, it makes it easier for authoritarian leaders or those who do not have the citizens best interest in mind, start to dehumanize that group who's "culture" can't be helped, make it easier for certain groups to feel superior. Then it's just a short jump, if those leaders want to do harm or acts of violence enacted on that group by those that feel superior, because you've dehumanized them in their eyes. I know that sound a little over dramatic, but it's a slow burn we really need to look out for in this day and age. I'm exactly 10yrs older than you, and while I didn't grow up in the hood, I wasn't in no gated community either, lower middle class blue collar family and neighborhood, I was lucky to have a really great dad, who was socially conscious, and just one of the kindest people I've ever known, I knew we were slightly poor, but my dad never let me and my sister forget our privilege, not the word he used, but let us know there's people out there struggling a hell of lot more than us. So I started paying attention to what I could at relatively young, like college age, young 20s, and for a long time in my late 40s, I really thought kids were worse today, things went down hill, but I really think that's because we look at our youth with so much nostalgia, every generation does. Damn I rambled like an old fool at a Sunday BBQ, here's the thing, I have found in life, when there is polarizing issue, whether it be personal thing in your life, or a social issue, neither side of the argument is rarely 100% right, the truth usually lies somewhere near the middle. I think it's ok to say there is a decent amount of the black and brown community, especially the young adults, that need a fire lit under they ass, and quit blaming everything and everyone, take some responsibility for ones own actions, and start being an example to follow, and lift themselves and communities up. While at the same time recognizing how far behind the 8ball systemic racism and oppression has put people of color in this country. I think both can exists at the same time. And if we can except that, then people can burn less energy deciding which side of the issue is to blame more, and start putting more energy into fixing the issue, regardless of the cause. IDK, sorry I rambled, just my thoughts on it, props for responding intelligently and respectfully, been getting a lot of negativity for disagreeing with Sowell, it was nice to head into the weekend on a civil and positive note. Have a good weekend.
Start following other black conservatives on social media and TH-cam. You do realize that conservatives are Republican? In the beginning of the video they read from Wikipedia that he was democrat, which is incorrect. Democrats are liberals. Conservatives are Republicans.
@@MPerry-ox9qb the thing is that as I get older the more I realize that I have things I'm conservative about and things that I'm liberal about. In all honesty I hate leaning heavy towards being either a Democratic or Republican. I'd rather use my own moral compass on subject matters in an unbiased manner.
I really love the honest discourse between you guys. Being able to ask questions freely without judgement and challenging each other without offence being taking is one thing that is missing in many of these conversations. We can't choose where we come from but through education and acknowledging where individuals need improvement, we can choose where we go. Please react to more videos like this 👏
I’m a white Christian conservative male. I’ve been watching Thomas Sowell for over a decade, love this man and consider him a brilliant mentor to anyone who will listen to him. I would vote for him for president over absolutely anybody in the world. Thomas Sowell is a great man and a genius.
Well then your an idiot. you have been listening to him for over a decade? and you have never bothered to do any actual research to see if he is telling the truth. spoiler alert! hes not. "Sowell’s arguments are, in the main, sophomoric in construction and ideologically resistant to intervention from the real world. Despite his bluster about Evidence and Facts that purportedly come to knock down the house of left economic and racial ideas, Sowell is unique even among the conservatives he’s usually cited with for his immunity to real knowledge and his social-scientific sophistry. Given the gargantuan volume of Sowell’s popular writing, I’m going to need to focus on the central cluster of claims Sowell is known for. This is essentially aggregated from a variety of Sowell’s work, since much of it is repetitive-the primary books I’m addressing are Discrimination and Disparities and Black Rednecks, White Liberals, combined with the vast expanse of Sowell video interviews and clips available on the Internet. I’ve broken down what I see to be this central cluster into its constitutive claims in order to deal with them in sequence: 1.Disparities do not prove discrimination, particularly pertaining to Black-White economic inequality in the US. 2.Black Americans, especially the worst-off living in urban centers, have a “redneck” culture that was handed to them by White southerners via Britain. It is this culture which produces bad behavioral patterns, such as crime and single parenthood. 3. These behavioral patterns are exacerbated by the interventions of the welfare state. 4. It is these behavioral patterns from the combination of culture and welfare that lead to Black-White economic inequality. 5. Black people are blameworthy for their inequality-producing behavior. Each of these claims, as well as the argument as a whole, are riddled with problems of argumentative logic and empirical evidence. In many cases even just one of them would tank the entire enterprise; the sum of all of them is utterly damning." Dr Vosburg, PHD, Ohio State University.
I totally agree. White liberals are perpetuating all of this. They are making race relations worse. I am a 54 year old white consevative woman and am telling you that anybody white or black can accomplish anything they want with good education, character, and morals. Don't let liberals tear us apart. When I grew up, we didn't think about the color of a person's skin. Some of my best friends were black. Great people , but the liberals are putting this racism into the heads of the younger generation as a way to tear us apart. As a way to keep everyday people down, white and black. It is a way for the rich liberals in politics and society to keep us all down. So that the rich famous people have all of the control. In reality, it is the rich and powerful against the poor and middle class. Which is what Trump was fighting for. Please, people, wake up. Our country is being destroyed!
OH sweetie they were just sitting around waiting for you to say so. Now you got your virtue signal gastank filled up, you can go act like an ass to them IRL.
You young men are in an incredible position to discuss and mold what strong, thinking men can accomplish. Introspection is always needed to move forward. Very good to see in any productive person of character. Thomas Sowell is a truth bomb to the lies that the left has been telling since the 1960's.
Bill was hardly regulated! Still debated 'til late: the date & day when Dave did cave & played tones of rave to grave stones, all day, about his debut stated: highly anticipated! This fella Ted once had a whole cellar cellulated... from fear of getting constipated... if fishiing with rod: my lure is baited. Dude did vomit from worrie his nephew fainted! by accident he painted he saw when two furries mated! *I'm sry about my medication...
@@michaeljohnson6976 There is only one thing we know for certain about Thomas Sowell's political leanings and that is: he is 100% conservative, but he could be a conservative democrat (like Joe Manchin - who stated emphatically that he is not - nor ever was - a liberal) - or he could be a conservative Republican - like you or me. Did he specifically say his party affiliation is Republican? I haven't seen evidence of that anywhere. All I know is that liberal and far left democrats do not like him.
Thank you for this video. I am a middle aged white female. I started out watching your react to music videos, and I love them. But this was on another level. YOU guys are what I want ALL generations and ALL races should look up to. Having a great conversation, differing opinions without name calling and violence. The passion for these subjects is so needed. I am sharing this with everyone I know. You learn from these conversations. If I say something that offends you, say so, I WANT TO LEARN. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Dr. Sowell is a national treasure. I wish he could live to 125, and I love seeing young, thoughtful fellows like you guys sitting down and listening to this great man.
I'm 60 and white and have read about 12 books written by Thomas Sowell. He's one of my favorite people on the planet. Highly educated to say the least and brilliant. Backs up everything he says. He's been around since the 70's where he debated all kinds of people. Hope he outlives me, the world needs more people like Mr. Sowell. I love the objective dialogue of these young men, these are the future movers and shakers.
Thomas Sowell is one of your favorite people on the planet? Maybe you can tell what some of his contributions are to the fields of economics or law are - both supposedly his specialties - because I don't think he actually has any work that's considered to be serious, must-read material by the actual academic research community in either category of study. But as a white guy, I can see very clearly how he's beloved by white conservative/libertarian boomers for his anti-interventionist, anti-regulatory, anti-union, and anti-political correctness takes. All of which seem shoddy at best.
Old white guy here. I didn't grow up in or near a ghetto. But the brilliance of Thomas Sowell is immediately apparent to anyone who listens to him or reads his books. I believe that America is yearning to be free of racism. Powerful forces continue to divide us in many ways. Visionaries like Sowell are needed.
Id say there is a part of America that yearns to be free of racism, but unfortunately there are still too many of those who live their lives by only seein race and holds onto that victim mentality. This is a diverse issue, so many things to tackle.
Yes, it's easy to say there's people who do not want racial peace. However, just because you get say cut off in traffic by someone of a different race. Racism? Nah. Probably a "jerk", could have an emergency but most likely just a bu**hole. They come in all colors and persuasions.
@@jennaeveliina313 It could be solved very, very simply: any time someone tells you that something is because of your race, ignore them. They don't want you to succeed, they want you miserable in failure. Like them.
As a middle aged white guy , this was eye opening. This was one of the best round tables on race I've ever watched. You are setting a great example for all races to follow.
I have tremendous respect for your willingness to consider many points of view and discuss them in a serious, but respectful manner. You are an example of what the world needs right now. You are so lucky to have each other as friends - what a fantastic group of young men with so much going for you.
I've been watching multiple videos from you guys over the past days, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm a 51 year white Irish female who was raised in the US. Watching young group of guys such as yourselves wanting to learn and enlighten yourselves. I just find it so wonderful. I love to learn and research facts, and it's so fun to watch a younger generation expanding their minds.
I am an educator with almost three decades of experience, and I logged into my account ... just to say, "thank you" for being a wonderful example of excellence. I would love any of my students to engage in such a lively, respectful conversation. Keep up the great work!
It's nice to see young black men using Thomas Sowell for their platform. It's like I'm witnessing real black culture; civil, intelligent, free-thinking with morals.
A great experiment would be to relocate a whole black community in any city, then repopulate it with blacks that think like you guys and see the results in 10 years. I bet it would really be a eye opener for the whole country.
I just wish they'd stop calling thomas a Democrat. He's a free market libertarian. They definitely got me following them now. In 1972 Thomas registered as independent.
Not a single 4th of July celebration has made me feel as patriotic and proud of American culture than watching these men openly conversing over this philosophical question. These videos are a real pulse of what people actually think. These discussions y'all are having is so important.
As a white guy that's only culture was christian. I was raised in southern california, i had more brown and black friends then white being where i was raised. one of my greatest memories growing up was hanging out at my black friends Antwon and Ricardo, trying to write songs like Kayce and Jojo. when their moms would come home from work she was so kind, she would treat her kids so well and showed me an example of real love. From an outside perspective, i think black culture in America is love and understanding. When I went to a black church i felt no nervousness, i felt completely accepted. When i was at Antwon and Ricardos house, their mom treated me like one of her own sons....I dont know black culture, but i did experience the love. One Love.
What you experienced is not majority black american culture. as a brazilian what i see about black culture is just self destruction on this big cities, in brazil you only see black people doing this kind of stuff in rio de janeiro and são paulo, in the rest of the country everyone is the same depending on the region, if you are from the northeast you will act like you are from there it does not matter if you are white,black or mixed, when CNN came to brazil and started doing this race shit everyone mocked then and they stopped doing that. they were like " a young black man doing this and that" people were like what the fuck? why it matter if he is black? now they just say a young man... they don't put race on the news anymore because media in brazil don't do that.
This is how good things happen guys. Yall in this video are good examples for black kids to look up to. Being free thinkers, having conversations. Good to see.
The gentleman in the white cap in the front, is a perfect example of what the next Thomas Sowell can be, to rise up and change a community, and a Nation. You are intelligent, well spoken, insightful, and passionate. You inspire me. Well done, Sir
He's consistently the one to grasp things first and is able to phase it in a way that gets the others on board. Dude's a leader and should seriously pursue that if he isn't already.
Keep watching Thomas Sowell! It was so refreshing to watch and listen to a real discussion! The tolerance, willingness to explore and understand alternate perspectives, and the genuine desire to learn, that you all demonstrated in this video was awesome!!!
As a black man from one of the deepest ghettos in Jamaica i can tell you the most empowering thing you could ever do is to not define yourself by your race but as a unique individual. It's like taking off a metal armour. It's a special type of freedom. You guys are on the right path
Exactly well said! Negative black culture is a ball and chain of self-destruction and any smart black person will do anything they can to separate themselves from it.
BEAUTIFUL 🙌🌏
Individualism is another form of escapism.
@@superafrikanmedialabs8237 if it gives one the tools to escape a poor mindset, I don't see a problem with that.
As soon as you define yourself by your race you chain your value to something you personally cannot control. Nobody should carry the burden of representing a whole race. It is an impossible expectation. The white liberals goal to make blacks think they need to be united only hurts them. Whites are in no way united they are split 50/50 on almost every issue.
Real black culture is right in the room right now. Young men being civil. Intelligent with morals not degrading to each other getting educated. Open minds. I love watching you guys.
Truth.
I agree with you David , close your eyes and change the color to brown , white , and you got the culture . American !
That's not black culture, that's American culture. And these fine young men are American through and through. I'm proud to stand by them, regardless of the color of their skin. It's the content of character, not skin color!
Bingo
They’re getting close to the real issues. White cap guy said we don’t need more rappers, we need to raise up black people doing things like work a nine to five. He’s almost asking the right questions.
Why are those rappers pushed by the labels? Guys praising violence and murder, calling women bitches, n word every other line, drugs drugs drugs. These people are glorified by ghetto culture.
George Floyd becomes a hero cuz the media said so. Reality is Floyd was a drug addicted criminal loser who was always gonna die a violent death related to drugs and crime.
Race baiters like Al Sharpton, Joy Reid, Barack Obama make millions by telling black people they’re victims. Somehow, they got rich, but tell you the white man is keeping all black people down. Obama made $30 million while he was president. Clinton made $42 million while he was president. They’ve both made many millions more after leaving the White House.
Ask the right questions. You’ll soon realize it’s all lies, corruption, and bullshit meant to keep black people poor and dependent on government.
Young men, as an older black man and veteran what, I can tell you is that you’re making black culture by looking at different ideas and making up your own minds. So proud of you guys.
Yeah, but are they making up their own mines, or are they influenced by Sowell's propaganda?
Greg, thanks for serving in the forces. I hope you got a lot out of your experience, and didnt get injured or anything too badly. I appreciate the people who've kept this country safe.
Also, I agree with you about these young men. They are doing a great job, and I love seeing them get a lot of views.
This country will get so much better if we can help all of our people in the rougher subcultures get past what's holding them back.
Sowell talks about it with whites and blacks, but I feel the Hispanics also have some as well, and probably some other groups that I don't even know about.
Overall, I just think it's awesome to see people working to make their lives better, because if they succeed..... they can make their families lives better and their communities better.... those are all wins, for everyone!
There is much stuff on TV that makes me feel negative about the future... then I see these guys, and see the truth... there are a lot of good people out there.
Hell yeah. Glory to Black Americans
Amen to that, I am also a veteran. I believe active duty gives you the opportunity to meet people that you may not have ever met. People from all walks of life, it makes you more well rounded in so many ways. I admire these men for thinking outside the box, not because they were told but because they want to explore other ideas.
yep. and the guy in the back was onto another issue. we need to make more out of people outside of the entertainment industry. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, journalists, engineers, etc. We can be more than just court jesters.
"you equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for" - great line and really motivating
As an older black woman, I'm so glad to see you young black men having discussions regarding these matters. I pray that you continue to grow in knowledge and wisdom.
What she said!!
Ditto also😊
As an older white woman, I am too. 😊🙏
Thank You Renee. The Democrat party has lost its mind
Amen. And im white latino. We all need right information and most of all an open heart.
I wish there were more conversations like this happening everywhere. You young men are true thinkers.
I agree. They and others should read 'The Rise and Fall of Violent Crime in America' by criminal justice scholar Barry Latzer, who outlines why old Southern culture is a huge factor in crime although no one likes to admit it because it's politically incorrect (not sure why as culture is not the same as race!). Crime first skyrocketed in various American cities right after the beginning of the 20th century because the southern Italians came in droves and with them, their strong cultural sense of personal 'honor' and propensity to resolve interpersonal conflicts, like disrespect, with violence. Then it happened again when black Americans migrated north, who carried with them, that old Southern culture which shares many similarities to the southern Italian culture, which they absorbed of course through no fault of their own as they were forced to live amongst Southern people for many generations. So they brought that culture to urban cities in the North where they lived in geographical and social isolation, and those cultural values, instead of evolving into something else or dying all together, flourished. Look at the gang violence, kids shooting each other because of stupid stuff like perceived insults to one's manhood or image. It's still happening today. This is exactly what the Italians immigrants used to do way back in the year 1910.
I couldnt have said it better myself there🎉
These conversations happen all the time. They just aren't online.
I agree, but they need to get their facts straight. Sowell is NOT a democrat. He’s a leader in the conservative movement. He dropped Marxism and the Dems more than 50 years ago.
These guys don't even realize that THEY are the ones setting a great example for what young America needs right now.. awesome stuff
As a black 57 year old woman, this made me feel so proud to see young black men conducting a discussion that goes against the news media's narrative of who we are. Thank you for being brave enough to break the stereotype chains the media salivates over.
They would make Mr. NEELY FULLER JR. very proud...
Wrong. If a stereotype is accepted and embodied. It doesn't matter what the media says. The cat on the right was correct. You have to change the pioneers and voice of the culture. All these kids wouldn't have face tattoo's if shit rappers weren't influencing their immediate culture and ego. This has nothing to do with media but an individuals embodiment of what they represent.
We don't have a race problem. We have a problem race.
@mr. nihilz There is not a right or wrong when it comes to appreciating one another for positive intentions. I agree with you and hope you are a part of what you speak.
Look, I'm white. I've been apart of "bad" cultures too. I left those cultures behind to succeed in life. It's an obvious issue amoung AA culture. Some thing we should talk about without being labeled as racist. Bevause it's not racist to note bad methods, philosophy, attitudes and actions.
I'm a 62 year old white man from England and have watched you guys for years.
I hope you are having an influence to other Americans of all races.
Keep it up fellas.
Damn as a 50 year old black man I am so happy and proud to hear these perspectives, young people like you who are willing to open up their minds to reality and recognize the inner power and control you have in your own lives gives me hope for the future. Spread your knowledge.
Seriously. These young men give us old guys hope.
You are so right.
Amen!!!
So true. Victim mentality is worse than a crutch, it's a cancer. We need to go back to MLK's teachings and focus on the charter of the person not the colour of the person's skin. Universities are segregating campuses based on race and this is seen as "empowering minorities". It's really depressing that we're regressing after all the strides to get past all that garbage. Young people need to put a stop to this because they have the reins.
So right it’s a beautiful thing to see.
I believe that Thomas Sowell’s books should be in every public school across the country. He’s a true American treasure.
Agreed!
I agree!
He is a treasure. He has to be one of the smartest and most logical men in history!
Why does he get labeled as a racist tho?
@@redacted5035 I've never heard that.
As an African who moved to the UK in 2006, I initially never saw myself as oppressed as I focused on the positives of being black, whilst some of my associates focused on oppression. Today most of them are behind bars, and I'm still growing to be the best version of myself.
What you focus on, you'll become 💭
As a fellow Brit, you are most welcome here. Anyone who wants to come here and make a life for themselves as one of us is my countryman
my friend in barbados feels the same. that's why now i say "black americans", because not all black people have the same culture. america is just dumb on the surface, that's why they think all hispanics/latinos are the same culture too 😂
allow me as a pastor in a church to springboard your wisdom for a moment...
King, we often speak of looking at The Lord in worship as "beholding" Him, an Old English term.
One day I had the thought, along with your term "focus on" , that what I am beholding , I will one day...be holding.
The thing in everyday life I am fixated on, will one day come to pass in daily life, good or bad.
Love your testimonial of growing!!😇
Good for you John. Do what's right for you don't follow the herd.
@@Janzer_ exactly, just because we have the same skin color doesn't mean we all have the same agenda, facts over feelings ANY DAY!!
Thomas Sowell is one of the most intelligent men in America. He's worth listening to.
In the world …
One of the most intelligent men in the world
I'm a white 73 year old man, retired professional, college graduate. I have been watching you guys often reacting to music. I find you guys entertaining as you discover the jewels from years gone by. But, today watching you guys was heart warming. You are respect of each other, and your minds are open. The media in America has a bias of omission (they don't report a lot of stuff you need to know.). Black White, we are all the same. Sin and greed has corrupted the world. I think you guys are onto it. I like you all. I wish you the very best and I will continue watching you!
54 year old white male here, I agree with you 100%. When I first started watching these young men they were reviewing a Larry legend video. They seemed a bit biased but as I watched more of their videos I started to see the open mindedness and they also have started to listen to the videos they watch and talk over each other less.
48 year old. Exact same thing.
56 white man here. I have enjoyed a lot of the videos these guys do and always enjoy listing to how they discus issues. We need more of this and they give me hope.
57 year old white guy here too.
Thanks for giving us hope. You guys get to inherit America. Enjoy it. You deserve it for making the world a better place.
Were the 70s as fun as they seemed to be?
PLEASE do more Thomas Sowell!
Thomas Sowell should be taught in every school. This man knows so much. It is a shame he doesn't get the chance to get the attention and rewards he deserves. There is more than just this. I would suggest reading his books, and watching other interviews.
I have Basic Economics. It's amazing. I took Economics in college but I never understood it the way I do now since reading that book. He explains things in such realistic ways that are so easy to understand and uses real life examples for his theories. He is such an amazing teacher.
@@staceykudera8558 ye such an amazing teacher. so easy to understand. doesnt use big wordsor facts. just spouts unproven dangerous untrue therios.
hes an absolute shit.
ignore sowell.
better yet research the heck out of sowell.
see for yourself.
PLEASE do less Sowell. hes an idiot. yes a very well spoken idiot. but still an idiot.
We would be living in a different & better world today if they taught his philosophy
@@b.entranceperium he learned his philosophy from Milton Friedman, who is responsible for the shit state the economy has been in since Reagan. cycles of boom and bust with massive wealth inequality is what he is a proponent of. make no mistake... he is a conservative propagandist and nothing he says holds any actual merit in the real world.
Thomas Sowell is an American treasure. Glad to see more people finally listening.
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And Lebron is a race hustler
@@skylanh4319 And Brett Favre is a welfare fraud
CNN will never put him on their network.
Is it a coincedence only white Democrats were blaming themselves?
It’s very refreshing to see young men have healthy conversations about society and questioning what they know and does it hinder or help them grow. Continue to strive for better.
This guy in the white baseball cap gets it loud and clear. Glad you’re involved in these conversations and making people think.
Yeah, he’s the best
He most often does
@@coldspring624 "white cap " shows strong leadership traits as an alpha male.I hope he comes to the attention of a smart mentor.
He's my favourite. He's very focussed.
Yeah that guy's intelligence always stands out to me, in every single video I've seen from them.
I am a black womam who didn't grow up with black subculture. There isn't one black culture but it's always a stereotype and not indicative of everyone as a whole. How you are raised and where you are from frames that as well. My mom is black, and my father it turns out is biracial. My step-mother, who is white, helped raise me. I lived with my father. They were married in the late 60's. My father expected greatness. There was no victim mentality. I spoke standard English. I loved reading and my vocabulary is vast because I loved literature (especially Russian literature). I am successful and educated. There were no limitations placed in my consciousness and that makes a huge difference. Yet, in college, the black kids wouldn't speak to me because my white step-mother dropped me off and I was deemed--not being black enough. It hurt me deeply but I learned to just be myself and not care what they think. Foundation and mindset are crucial. I don't want other people making excuses for me or apologizing for my bad choices. Personal responsibility has left the building in the US and today's race issues are so skewed it's ridiculous and sometimes scary. I love Thomas Sowell. He exposes the truth and I'm proud these young men see it.
TY for sharing your story. We all survive this world somehow.
Bingo! As I always say, Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) is key to success, regardless of race! Dr. Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum and others in the Black community that talk about this as well, I'm sure you're big fans of them too :)
AGHHHH... as a white woman from England.... Good Lord I cannot wait for us all to be blended!!! We are all HUMANS! don't have to be white or dark black! I hate all of this! We are all one race..the human race! I LOVE my black friends so deeply and yet we still have "this' thing...ugh it's so dumb to me!! However, with all that said... I hate it when I hear anybody say AXS for Ask!! LORD!!
Thank you and congratulations on your achievements.
I like what you said. It "sounded" so rational. I found these men a little hard to listen to because of the interruptions and stoppages but I appreciate their honest approach to the subject. As an older person I already know some of what they are covering but with patience I may learn a little more.
A wise man once told me "once you see the truth you can't unsee it". I'm glad to see young men like y'all searching for truth.
So true. Once I saw it I am unable to unsee it. It’s annoying sometimes. Be watching a movie and I can see the undertones and half time people are telling me to just shut up. It’s hard to slip back into ignorance once you see it. Btw I don’t think ignorance is bliss
Best thing I've seen on TH-cam today. These five young men make me more optimistic about our future. There is no singular "black" identity, any more than there's a singular "white" identify, yet people don't see that when they're bogged down in identify politics.
Amen!
Identity politics is one of the most destructive forces on the planet today.
Some entertainment figures profit by portraying stereotypes and cliches, so these cultural monoliths get perpetuated. I don't think most gangsta rappers, or whatever the current tag is, speak for the average black person, any more than Kid Rock speaks for me.
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I'm from Brazil and always get scared when I noticed people in US do not know about Thomas Sowell. For me, one of the greatest minds in US, still alive. It's never too late!!!
Lmao
You would like enjoy the book Up From Salvery It is a good read.
This is because what black american culture has become over the years. The youth have been groomed to idolize black Hollywood, gangsters, rappers and athletes. Every single one of these groups are the armpit of black America..uneducated , clueless and promote the worst things imaginable without caring one bit they are role models to the youth. It’s got to a point where political parties pay these “famous” blacks for them to promote their party and the kids will follow without a clue of what’s actually going on. It’s not their fault technically because it starts at home. 70% of these kids grow up in single home families , usually w no father and as they say, u don’t find a father at home u find him on the street ….
Thomas is someone many blacks call Uncle Tom because they think He acts white !!! He don’t act white. He don’t talk white!!! He acts and talks like an intelligent black man to me that cares for his people. He’s going against the grain trying to force a change … people like him help start groups like cartierfamily and officer Tatum … god bless them all
As a white male and an ex combat veteran, these men remind me of some of my friends I served with. They worked hard, stood for their beliefs, color was never a thing for us. I appreciate men who are smart enough to weed through todays BS, and understand they can decide their own path…. I love that kind of power. Strong men=Strong results.
Ex combat veteran? So you once were and now you are no longer a combat veteran? Never heard of someone describe themselves as that before.
@@guitarplayincowboy he still a veteran but he “ ex combat”
@Yuko Trey still doesn't make sense. I am a combat veteran. I will always be a veteran who has been in combat.
The Democrat party try to mask control with concern. They want to keep the black people down . Democrats were carpet baggers after the Civil War. They have always wanted to keep those of EVERY RACE poor and dependent. TMO
@@Jiminy-trxas a is a good signal that they’ve never interacted with anyone other than their own. Lol now we need more black people to drop to their knees and make them feel welcome
As an older black American, this video gives me hope for the future of the black community, fantastic young black American men. Not look at yourselves as victims.
well said, as a white democrat conservative, I must say these men give me hope for the future of America
@@jamesdavidson3259 Democrat conservative?
You either don't exist, or are older than penicillin.
I am so happy you did not African American. That is just another phrase from Race Hustler's. We are all Americans no matter the pigment god blessed us with.
Worst thing you can do. Democrat party wants to keep blacks victims. As a white American it’s plain to see what’s happening. Get away from Democrats as fast as you can.
Preach!!!!!
The 12 minutes of conversation after the video is pure gold.
More conversations like this are exactly what our country needs.
Yeah, more talking....🤣
Exactly, complex problems of society require clear and level-headed exploration, mutual respect, based on facts, full disclosure of any bias, honesty, and completely devoid of emotional manipulation or mob-rule. We can not allow the least mature people to dominate simply because they yell loudest.
This is about bull sh.t European culture embodies genocide of Native American people along with theft of their land and valuable resources. Many of the early settlers were slaveholders who beat raped and murdered many of their slaves with no legal recourse. After slavery ended many black Americans who were regarded citizens were still subjected to laws and customs of this country that denied them their rights with indignant treatment. Again European culture is the culture of rape murder and theft to gain their semblance of success. After slavery white culture endured people such as Billy the Kid and Jesse James who were murderers and robbers. After the crime wave of the post Civil War period white culture led to the rise of organized crime dominated by immigrant Irish Italians and Jews and others. We all have heard of the MOB and corrupt judges and politicians who represented a lawless culture. Thomas Sowell’s head is in the sand. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not race hustlers but advocates who are addressing issues to improve the lives of black Americans.
Redlining exists along with disinvestment in black communities such as real estate owned by black Americans being assessed lower than their white counterparts. The justice system is designed to harm blacks more than whites. This list goes on and on!!
@@stryfetc1471 Yes talking helps a lot especially when it comes to our problems and differences.
@Nikolas Hanks no, action helps....talking is just talking.
I applaud you brothers for talking about Thomas Sowell. He's a brilliant mind that has been kept out of media for so long because he speaks against the narrative.
I’m a white man and I’m proud to see these 5 in this video being analytical, honest and based with this conversation. I as a white man have seen a lot of ignorance in these discussions because people don’t want to talk the truth. Especially in front of a white man…We need more people like these 5 because being analytical, based and honest is the first steps for improvement. If you ignore all this then how are you meant to know why and how to remove the problems…Great video, keep doing what you’re doing👏
@@Who-cu9eu Me, too. I am bawling my eyes out! This is beautiful. I love these young men.
Mr. Thomas Sowell has some great and profound messages for us all. He speaks power to the truth and facts, he is not wrong.
HES A SELLOUT OVERALL.. BUT HE ALSO DOES MAKE GOOD FACTUAL POINTS.. BUT OTHER MORE PRO BLACKS COVER THIS AND MORE.. SOWELL IS JUST A PAID PUPPET OF MILTON FRIEDMAN..
Thomas Sowell is 92 years old. That’s 92 years of reading, studying, research, life experience and wisdom. He also has a research team. You can’t argue with him. You will lose. One of the most brilliant minds of our time and one of my heroes. Yet so many have no idea who he is.
The universities refuse to teach the critical liberal minds like him and John McWhorter completely. They only teach Kendi, and Robin DeAngelo. They refuse to teach both and let people develop their own critical thinking abilities. Instead they opt for a specific narrative, whereby if you argue your moral character is put into question.
What are you talking about what Thomas Sowell is saying is not entirely true
Being old does not make one wise or right.
@@stimpsonjcat26 If you spend all that time doing research it does.
@@oladeebiazazi4538 of course you wouldn’t give specific examples.
48 year old Black Man chiming in. These type of conversations are great to see from young Black men. Proud of yall. This excites me. ✊🏿
We need more honest conversations like this. Not the race baiting that fills the media and politics. Government and the wealthy prosper as they divide us.
from a white guy, I agree. 100
@@JustChasingWaterfalls totally agree. The entire concept of race was created to divide us and it has been working since Bacons Rebellion of 1676
Love this!
I only understood what Thomas Sowell said, I'm having trouble understanding these young black men.
Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson are a couple of role models to emulate. Plus it would be beneficial not to separate by race or anything else All men are created equal 🇺🇸
Agreed, God made everyone in his image.
No he didn’t. Don’t be ignorant. Let go of the fairytales.
Sowell is, Carson is not.
ur sounding like an idiot. Those 2 blacks are insulting the rest.
Sowell is 92. He won’t be physically with us someday, but his mind and words will be here as long as people want to learn. All his ideas are explained so well in his books and they’re not hard to read and understand. I love him!
100% agree. I think it's funny that they call him "Thomas So-Ell" 😆
He will be shilling for his corporate masters from the grave I am sure.
Yeah, Thomas Sowell is one of the few people lucky enough who will live past his time on this earth, through people's memory and his work he leaves behind. I hope he feels content with all he's done.
92 but he listed heart issues for the reason that he divorced his wife and broke up his family.
Thomas Sowell was a Democrat (until 1972) and became Independent (after 1972) ....Thomas Sowell got off the Democratic Plantation and never looked back and has been correcting the record ever since.
Thank you for stating the facts
I was going to mention this before reading your comment. It’s an important fact most people forget or didn’t know.
Wasn’t he a Marxist as well?
@@yogijager not even close!! I stand corrected on my comment. I haven't studied him long so I wasn't aware that he at one point in his younger years was a Marxist but has now come to his senses and understand how this world works and what's actually important
By his own words, Thomas Sowell described himself as a dedicated Marxist in his early years of education. He has come a long way, lived almost a century by now, seen all fads and fallacies for what they are. I applaud him, respect him.
As a half White half Aboriginal Man form Western Australia, all I can say is "Keep Questioning your current culture". Take what is positive, throw away the rest. Never blame. Keep climbing. You men are inspiring, truly. Thank you.
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Super important. The deification of culture the concept is a death trap. Culture is a consequence of how you live. Don't pay attention to it, don't go out of your way to preserve it. Let it be a consequence, not an end goal. The GOAL is living well.
What is this blame argument so you would not accept reperations from the Australian government if offered or are you insinuating that what happened was acceptable!
I absolutely love the genuine debating amongst yourselves. This is literally how it's done. People getting together and discusing controversial subjects to the point that all sides can listen and understand and communicate their opinions without being ridiculed. 🎉 you all are amazing...and entertaining..keep up the great work
I'm a white 60 year old woman and I am proud to see you guys progressing further in life with learning and sharing your discussions and thoughts..ideas. kudos 👏
It has always been there. Our voicea have been suppressed, to a degree. The media has restricted the intelligent and promoted the buffoonery.
As a 72 year old white woman, I really live your take on this. When I think of black culture, I remember Motown and how they dressed, how great the music was, I think of Jazz and Blues and how your culture has influenced our music and in turn, my memories of my youth. Thomas Sowell is a treasure to everyone and we are all made better by his wisdom and insight.
I'm a Cuban born man in my 50s and if there one thing that black people should be proud of their culture is the musical influence on all other genre of music and I'm not talking rap but blues , jazz , grass , Motown as well as dances.✌
@@joserivero2416 yep real music from the heart and soul reflecting the spectrum of human condition.....
My mom says that. Back when they made real music. They r using rappers to indoctrinate black people to destroy themselves and the culture is totally disrupted
All that music is a combination of white and black culture. Music is not owned by one culture.
I love motown I'm 60 and motown has been a big influence musically to me. I love music any kind of music just as long that it's grovin.
I love watching you guys do these videos. The best part is that you're all willing to challenge yourselves, and you all support each other. It's a wonderful thing to see, and it's a great example for everyone to learn from. Thanks, guys.
It’s wonderful to see young, intelligent individuals discussing real issues. That’s how we all grow. Forget “culture,” don’t let anyone define you.
And let's not define other people either. It breaks my heart every time I hear black men refer to black women as less than human. Black women are talented humans, not b*ches.
Same goes for black men, they're not ninjas, they're our brothers.
We are Americans!!
Yes, discussing real issues helps people grow. They stopped the video now and again and went into the ideas. But then, when they started the video back, there was silence as they were glued to the idea of learning more. You can see how their focus was intense. They were 100% invested in learning more. To challenge what they had been told to believe. Agree, disagree, disregard, it didn't matter. These guys became involved. That is truly wonderful.
@@iamthechangemaker Amen.
@Lol okay Wow. Yeah, that’s depressing. What a shame, given the inherent power of our technologies to promote good; it seems like the opposite is what happens all the time. I feel like the entities responsible for promoting violent and antisocial ideas in hip hop hate black people and hate humanity. Black Americans have contributed so much to the world that is beautiful and life-giving and eminently worthy of respect and praise, yet raunchy, violent rap has probably been promoted and spread out to the world much more than their other, truly awesome contributions.
As a white guy, I love this discussion and you guys are inspiring. I found you because I follow Thomas Sowell and love and admire his work. He is never mean and never bombastic or condescending, but man he is a full-blown genius. I think your group will change many thousands of lives for the better if you keep doing these videos in this incredibly humble way. Thrashing things out in a group is so effective in sending a positive message.
"Equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for"..., Love it
~ And that's it... So simple!!!
That’s a man who lives in reality.
Such a great video guys. I am an 80 year old white woman who had watched that Sowell interview so wanted to see your reaction to what he stated. I am pleased to see your responses. I think a lot of what he said was to make sure the people you follow, black/white/etc. are worth listening to. So much all of us hear today is either right/left thinking.Fill your mind with the truth and you will not go wrong.
I'm an older white man an i watch you guys a lot. I enjoy your perspective on things. And we all can learn a lot from our history. Knowledge is power. Have a nice day.
As an 81 year old white man reared in segregated south, I must say this is the best , by far, conversation ever on yourtube. These young men present a better generation than their predecesors. Just love to see men using such common sense interpreting real life in this country. I hope they can spread their viewpoint to the other colored men in their generation . Makes me really feel like their is hope for this country after all. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this video for all the world to see. Please continue spreading your message. Also , Thomas Sowell is a true american treasure (patriot) for us all to study and implement his common sense views. Have a great day and continue with your passion in presenting a positive cultural change for your and future generation.
This is one of the best conversations I've ever seen play out in almost real time. You guys are thinkers. It's evident. Sowell would be proud.
I disagree. They need to STOP talking over each other. That is disrespectful. Same as LEFT...'THE VIEW'. Annoying. One at a time.
LMAO, they have a 20 words vocabulary, not much thinking out there!
@@Crystal-yn9qb It doesn't matter where you start as long as you try to learn and educate yourself.
So refreshing to see young black Americans having fun and discussing important political matters that are really prevelant in our country and lives. Thank y’all!
This is honestly one of the best videos I have ever watched on TH-cam. I appreciate you all.
Y'all giving $20 to grifters?
The dude in the white hat is on top of his shit. We are products of our environment and I’m glad to see you guys stepping out of that “if you’re black you have to be ghetto” mentality. I’ve told many of my friends the same thing growing up. Much respect fellas.
"We are products of our environment" ? Only until you become adult and you choose not to be a product anymore.
@@slatebook2384 exactly my point. Just as I did. But yes being raised in one situation or another can determine the type of mind set an individual can have. You grow up in the country around deer hunting all the time odds are you’re going to love deer hunting as a result. Pretty simple.
@@odyesus9893 Indeed. We have a choice between being a bad person or a good one. What amazed me is that since the 70' bad ones are praised/admired/supported in movies, music, arts, politics and in all western countries.
Agreed. 29:28-29:50 is very true and applicable to ANYONE encountering another race especially if you have little experience with that race your interacting with imo.
He gets it
Not many of our people know of Thomas Sowell. He’s a brilliant man who understands the black experience. I’ve never heard his name mentioned during black history month. But he should be. I applaud these gentlemen for taking the time to dissect this interview. You give me hope for your generation.
Sowell rants against affirmative action while having gotten into Harvard based on affirmative action. He rails against welfare while having had the state pay for both his original career in the military and then paid for his education at Harvard.
The problem of course is not Sowell any more than it is with any 'intellectual', the problem is the governments that listen to them and the lack of lobbyists.
He constantly talks about the necessity of higher education, although lately what gets shown is the stuff where he tirades against colleges like the one that educated HIM. Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society. You will be cleaning up behind somebody or serving somebody the rest of your days.
But his remarks about education get lost in the mix. Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. The massive bloated bureaucracy he complains about, and yet NO liberal argues for bureaucracy, but for the same thing. A society that makes sure each person can live up to their potential, and help them out when they can't.
THOSE things get lost in the mix and instead are non ending conversations about political correctness and terminology. Thats the mark of not living in a democracy, people play NO part in the actual decision making, so you need to pretend that they are playing a part by endless pontificating.
@@mikearchibald744 Where is the evidence that he got into Harvard based on affirmative action?
"Welfare" =/= "government paying for stuff". "Welfare" = "government paying for stuff while you give nothing in return". Him being in the military was a trade. He signed a contract that stated that he would do X and the government in return would do Y. "Welfare" is only one way.
"against colleges like the one that educated HIM"
Gee, it's almost like those institutions have changed since he was in them.
"Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society."
I mean, that was true a millenia ago. The problem is that people seem to think that the only route to "education" is through the university system.
"Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. "
Where has he argued for such? Nevermind that social security is essentially a racket, whereby the money you supposedly "put in" is not worth the same when you are able to "take out".
@@mikearchibald744 You are so ignorant it’s unbelievable. He graduated years before affirmative action was even put in PLACE
@@groerulesyourface Affirmative action was used since before world war 2, it was a method to get education to people who didn't access it before.
The GI Bill was a form of affirmative action where soldiers were put into college without having the requisite high school diplomas or marks.
But congratulations, thats the typical level of Sowell fan, to start a debate with "your so ignorant". He'd be so proud.
@@cstgraphpads2091 He was a soldier with only middling marks as he admitted. He got into Harvard, you do the math.
Welfare is government doing shit IT DOESN"T NEED TO DO. A military is exactly that, in every war soldiers are brought on board and quickly trained and sent to war. There are countries with almost no military, one of which is now been fighting a major power for a year without one, and there are militaries that are essentially not in use, like Switzerland or Norway.
So thats the welfare state. Soldiers are trained for jobs that for the most part don't exist and WON"T exist, unless the state puts them into action, thats why early american libertarians were even against STATE rights becaues they said permanent militaries are the first sign of the welfare state.
Just becaues a country keeps starting wars doesn't change that fact, actually it proves it.
So what you call 'productive' is irrelevant. A single mother raising a child to YOU might not be 'productive', which is ironic because conservatives complain so much that women should at least be able to stay home with the children. But if there is no husband, suddenly that function is 'not productive'.
Sowell keeps on about these MOSTLY fictional 'just lazy people' who are supposedly collecting welfare while doing nothing, ironically the society has no problem using government to throw money at the owners of Raytheon, the owners of which have NEVER done any work for decades.
NOW the value of education is WAY beyond what it was in the past. The surest way to stay in poverty is to only have a high school education. You think you are going to be a doctor or engineer by saying "hey, I've read all the textbooks in my spare time at home". Good luck with that.
You can learn a TRADE without college, but that puts you at the mercy of that trade and essentially dictates where you can live. I know tons of welders, great skill to have but there are no jobs in it here.
I see you don't really get the gist of social security, the money you get out is WAY more than the money you put in, just like an RRSP in an institution is way more than what you put in, thats the whole point. Without social security the country would be a full on third world country.
From a veteran. Some of the most important leaders and relationships in my life have been from persons who are black. Also, you fellas are showing what black culture is right here. It's easily recognizable, you're diplomatic, thinking freely, speaking freely, open minded, compassionate, empathetic, tolerant, and intelligent. For my brothers who are black that I served with. You are brave warriors, disciplined, patriotic, inspirational, selfless, godly, charismatic, and noble. They got me through some of the most real struggles this world can throw at men. Nothing but love and respect.
These round table discussions you guys do says black culture is alive, healthy, and prospering in you guys.
I'm so glad you guys loved him! You guys were talking about "not being able to fix anything because it's too far gone" ... you're helping to fix it now! Keep doing exactly what you're doing. Help others become aware. Not only black people but everyone because everyone has challenges and barriers that need overcome and awareness is the first step. You guys are on the right path! So proud of all of you! ❤ Not everyone, regardless of culture or race, seeks truth like you guys are!
That's what I was saying, & they need to continue listening to him on the far right!
That dude is going to go somewhere!
Thomas Sowell is a moron. dont fall for it
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It is particular members of the white race that are vehemently and even violently at school board meetings,
NOT seeking the truth.
Why aren't you asking them, as young Black men to help make particular
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of their misperceptions about the intellectual differences between races?
@@YaHUKaB_ShaRaYAL_YaShaRAL Discrimination and Disparities
Sowell is correct that intentional racial discrimination (according to Sowell’s classification, Discrimination 1b and 2) at a given juncture - say, racial discrimination by an employer - cannot fully explain Black-White racial disparities in economic outcomes. It does not follow, however, that therefore the remaining racial disparity not explained by acute racial discrimination is not caused by racism in society. Sowell concludes that, for instance, employers and realtors and bankers will make choices about hiring or real estate or loans based on the relevant qualities the individual brings to the table, such as education, credit scores, criminal or eviction history, and so on (this is what he calls Discrimination 1a). People have differences in the quantity and quality of these they can bring to the table, and thus it is perfectly reasonable to find inequalities in economic outcomes.
What is not answered by this, however, is why these inequalities would be unevenly distributed by race. It’s certainly not a realtor’s fault that there is a Black-White disparity in credit score, but that difference is not a natural fact of the universe. I and most other social scientists believe that there is inherited inequality from the entire history of American social life that at least in part accounts for why the distribution of these sorts of things are unequal by race. The literature on inherited racial inequalities in sociology, economics, and history is simply massive and cannot be hand-waved away. As it stands, Sowell’s argument on this point is hopelessly endogenous.
This argument is also wrapped up with the claim that any government intervention intended to reduce disparities will result in unintended consequences that will most likely make things worse for the people you’re trying to help. This is, in the terms of Albert Hirschman, the “perversity thesis” - the common conservative argument that whatever change you want to implement in society will actually do the opposite of what you want it to do. The reason why this rhetorical move has power is because it seems intuitively true, and sometimes policies do have consequences of this kind. But it simply does not logically follow from the example that some such policies backfired that any such policy inevitably will.
These young men are not buying into the stereotypes…They are defining their own place in this world! YOU ARE KILLING IT💕 From your biggest Canadian Fan supporter/fan 🇨🇦
Beg to differ. Thomas Sowell has been so overused on TH-cam .
@@paulhester489 obviously not used enough if these guys never heard of him...
How? Throw mire light, please?
@@paulhester489 Thomas Sowell is overused because there aren't enough big names that can say this shit, back it up, and get away with it because they can't get stamped with the "racist" label by woke dipshits
@@ErdTirdMans Dr William Darity, Dr Glen Horne, check them out.
The world NEEDS more conversations like this among young black Americans. This was incredible to listen to and brings so much perspective to things. Loved this video. ❤
I would say we need these conversations with all people. Very well meaning willing to learn and see other perspectives, and free thinking.
I also think it would do young white Americans some good to watch, listen and seriously discuss these issues too. They may be the newest "victims" in our society because of the pervasive and persuasive mentality that's being pushed in the public schools, social media and power-hungry politicians and their shills. It's fracturing our society, particularly in the young adult age group, and I think the cultural elites with all the money and power like George Soros and his foundation are behind all of this.
All I can say is Wow. I am a middle-aged white lady from the Midwest, and seeing the exchange of ideas and perceptions from this group of young men has been very enlightening.
Thomas Sowell is an absolute legend. Highly respected and highly intelligent. Warms my heart to hear you young men listening to someone that has been a mentor to so many.
I've listen to many of his informal lectures and from the first time I heard him I was in awe at his level of wisedom. Too many people have high IQs in academia to memorize highly manipulated information derived from echo chambers, but no wisedom. This is why their so-called "experts" are often so horribly wrong in their predictions. Worse, it is incredibly dangerous, because unlike Professor Sowell, typical academia buys into the absolute fallacy that basic human nature can be altered (even worse, they think it can be altered through theory alone today!) No matter how hard someone tries, one can not erradicate selfishness, greed, envy, and so on, from human nature. When it is tried, it ALWAYS ends in utter disaster. This is where Prof. Sowell steps in and would say, we can't alter human nature, but we know when people have freedom, stability, and hope, they are more likely to be happier, better people, and act as good role models. Thus the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness with boundaries ending where another's freedom begins, to which this is enforced though consent of the very people who enjoy those rights. Professor Sowell understood this well, which is why is really was an incredible man.
@@echo-channel77 agreed. I remember seeing Thomas Sowell on television when I was a little girl. My parents were watching something where a panel of people were having discussion. I remember they were really bickering and angry except for Thomas Sowell. He was the only one who made sense and gave his responses in a calm articulate demeanor.. I didn't know who he was at the time but he really stuck out as a voice of reason to me. Later as I got older I found out who he was. Brilliant man and a true gentleman.
lol nah
He’s a right-wing hack who makes his money by pushing black America under the bus.
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Hearing from real people is miles better than dealing with traditional media, thanks guys
Beautifully stated.
Hear hear!
Im neither black nor white..im from india...i love this episode so much...after countless videos from alleged experts..vid like this from the common man is like a breath of fresh air! Keep fighting guys💪💪
I am a 73 year old white, suburban, conservative, retired, New York metro college professor. I taught business and economics for over forty years and Thomas Sowell was my favorite economist during that entire period. I have watched many of your reaction videos and I always find them interesting and informative. What I love about The CF group is that you are teaching and learning at the same time. Please keep it up by being yourselves. I really like your different points of view and your different communication styles. I have subscribed and will continue to tune into your reaction productions. Thanks,
That’s right, I’m going to keep it up being myself. We are the most talked about race of people on the entire planet, Blacks in America. Black people this, Black people that. But I always look at the group of clowns criticizing our people. I say well, from what I see? All races have mess in it. For mr. Sowell to criticize Jesse, Al and other leaders, but they have helped out more than him. I have no respect for Mr. Sowell, all talk and I see no action. This need to be done and that, but just write a book, that benefit him, but Jesse and Al can’t reap benefits. LMAO Peace, much love. S/o to my people in the hood, some of you have more values than them
@@yo3rdtier128So basically you support 2 grifters that have single handedly done more harm than good...got it.
Where are they when it's B on B crime?
Where are they when B women are aborting their babies?
Where are they when fathers leave the home?
Where are they when mothers have 5 children with different fathers?
Why is it they only show up when the W race is involved?
Why don't they talk about crime against Asians?
You know the reason just as we all do...there's no money in it.
@@yo3rdtier128 You really don't get it. You're another lost soul that's been brainwashed into believing the bullshit being forced upon you. Try educating yourself about true facts and not blindly believing what your leaders have told you to believe.
@@yo3rdtier128 FACTS!!! Thank you, I couldn't agree more. I've always understood why white people are drawn to Sowell, a sort of blessing from an older man of color that tells them that theirs no more inequality or systemic racism in this country, so it's ok to be happy with the status quo and continue acting like everything is fine. What I don't get is how many of the younger generation of black folks seem to really support what Sowell has to say. Last I checked Sowell was a brilliant economist, when did he start becoming the expert on American history and black culture?
@@sunshynff where exactly is this sistemic racism?
The real black culture is beautiful … it’s unfortunate that is almost gone.. the faith, the moral, the compassion, the generosity., etc, etc .. ❤ I’m a recipient of it .. magical.
What’s the real black culture? Cause culture is about where you’re from not your race. Every black person doesn’t have the same culture…
@@queenofnyc5584 culture is not something you create to identify you per say, its all the intellectual discoveries, inventions and art and innovations done collectively which describes one culture. That is every culture in a nut shell. Culture is not where you are from. The way you think of culture is a simplistic way of seeing it and is sold as the truth when it's not.
What is real black culture in your opinion!
If You are young you may not understand… I’m so grateful the good Lord put them in my life..
I moved to another country with my family and we had to get used to another accent and another culture. We decided to take on those mannerisms that were an improvement to ours but hang on to those parts of our accent that make communication clearer and easier to understand. Part of our instict is to keep on learning about ourselves and others for our whole lives. Even as whites among other whites, we don't always feel accepted or understood but we don't have to change completely. Just gradually learn to live and let live. It's so cool that you have heroes you can look up to and learn from. We all need them.
Congratulations young men!! For being brave and inquisitive and for giving Thomas Sowell your platform. So much to learn from this great American treasure!🇺🇸
As a White man, raised in Calgary, Alberta, it pains me deeply to see what is happening in our culture today. My best friend since I was 17, I moved to the US to live with mum to graduate, I met a Black guy. We became friends and actually best friends. I learned so many Life Lessons from this friend that they really are too many to name. He went through a lot of grief having a White friend I know. Gang influence and the resultant crime is tearing this country apart. He was also the best damn harp player that I ever heard, I play guitar. He was the God Father of my daughter, the best man at my wedding...... He died a few years ago, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't mourn some more.
Congratulations guys for discovering Mr. Sowell. I am a 62 yr old American woman , with Mexican heritage and I absolutely LOVE Mr. Sowell! He is such a treasure of knowledge, wisdom and many other virtues.
62 yo white woman. I have been enjoying him since I was old enough to read his columns in the newspaper (10?). He's wonderful.
Do you know if In the Hispanic community do we have a Sowell
@@jesusmartinez4094 sowell is just another ideologue, not very different from friedman or hayek or marxists
@Jesus A. Martinez yes, the author of We Wanted Workers, Jorge Borges. He discusses how illegal Immigration hurts Blacks and Latinos while enriching the wealthy and powerful and enslaving the illegal aliens. Great question, btw.
@@juana7035 wow got it will buy soon… thank you
You guys really do make the viewer feel like they are in the circle and interacting with the conversation. This is authentic communication right here. Thank you guys for what you do!
This conversation could move the culture forward a 10000000 percent. Pure logic. Reasoning. Alot of self reflecting and honesty. You guys are a legendary group of young men and I feel honored to be the fly on the wall listening.
Those young men are an educator’s dream: they are listening, then listening again if they aren’t sure about hearing something correctly, looking up what they don’t know, processing what they’re hearing and talking about if they agree or disagree and why, and relating it to their own experiences. Keep being awesome, guys! Great to hear what you have to say.
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This is great to see because college campuses across the US no longer allow these discussions, free thinking or debate to occur and disagreement is not allowed. They created “safe spaces” for those offended. Its ridiculous and does nothing to benefit our youth
They still need a lot of work. But education aint helping by lying to them about "dey culture" They all think they INVENTED JAZZ or PEANUT BUTTER. If they're learned from people like Sowell instead of liberal LIARS, they'd learn a lot more and probably would be outraged about all the lies.
@@reneechavez9866 isn’t university meant to be the one place you meant to debate and have intellectual warfare all these creating safe places is creating a society that is the most sensitive insensitive generation of that makes sense we ain’t allowed to have our own opinion anymore we forced to go along with all these new agendas they pushing heavy
@@reneechavez9866 I'm guessing you couldn't get into college.
The discussion you guys have here together is emblematic of how everyone should behave in society today: learning from a respected expert like Sowell and then having a civil, thoughtful discussion about important matters like history, identity, and culture in a way that elevates everyone in the room. Fantastic. Never stop thinking and questioning, this country needs people like you.
Yes, as a 57 year old Mama, I love this discussion from you guys. These moments are so necessary and important.
I love this conversation. I wish we would all learn to have good discourse these days. Thank you gentlemen for setting a high bar for us all. Much love to you.
Thomas Sowell has the greatest quote of all time - "There are no solutions, only trade offs"
He has some of the greatest quotes of all time.
I'm an old white woman who grew up in the South. I applaud you and look forward to seeing the impact your thinking has on future generations!
Man, I am so glad you’re finally came across this guy… he’ll change your whole outlook on almost everything you’ve ever been told
yes if you believe his lies you will be convinced that racism isnt a problem.
but ask these young black men how they feel around the police and you will soon see that Sowell is talking crap.
"Equip yourselves with skills that people are willing to pay for"
Legend statement 👏
“The way anybody else would”
Stolen from jews.
Or maybe just some no duh bullshit.
Yes, here in Wyoming you have welders, mechanics, CDL drivers, etc..., That are making just as much as the public school superintendent with an phd.
@@jerryfinger8659pretty sure that is everywhere
Nice to see young intelligent men with open minds, stay blessed!
You guys are building the type of positive black culture you’re describing by making these videos. This was a very interesting conversation and everyone had a nuanced/intelligent take. I love it.
I’m a white guy.
I grew up primarily in my younger years in south Florida. A large population of people from Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba all through my neighborhood.
In the 1980s we all got along. People went to church together, school, the beach, etc. It wasn’t like it is today. Everyone getting offended by everything.
I’m definitely subscribing. Keep up the great work.
I remember as well. I thought things were supposed to get better, not worse.
@Transformers are coming for your kids: Maybe, sometimes, things need to get worse to get better? I don't know, just a thought.
We were on it in the 80’s.
Guys. I cannot get enough if this channel.. whether you realize it or not - you are creating smart, thoughtful and compassionate black culture right now. If you ever make it out to Connecticut I would invite you all over for dinner!
This conversation actually gives me hope for the future of younger generations of young Black men. There needs to be more of this type of conversation to wake our people up from the nightmare Black Culture has become in the last 20+ years.
You really think it's much different today than it was back then? Define black culture?
@@sunshynff At 42 I've seen it go from "Stop the violence", "Self Destruction", "Say no to drugs" to become the exact opposite in our communities. Growing up in the projects was not looked at as something to brag about. Going to jail was not something that young Black youth looked at as a badge of honor. We believed that education was the key to success, not glorifying ignorant and ratchet behavior. Yes there absolutely is a problem with Black culture today. Somewhere down the line we stopped upholding the standards and dignity we once had that our elders tried so desperately to instill in us. We used to joke about "Bebe's kids" not knowing the whole culture would shift around it.
@@akiraxtreme ...Im not saying there isn't a problem within the black and brown community, I just hate seeing it being called culture. Culture with any lighter skin tone almost always relates to sophistication, (having) class, suave but you put culture and black together, and you're not at an African heritage festival or a social justice meeting, it automatically has a negative connotation. It's another way for the ruling class to marginalize a group, "other" them, convince the poorest whites, they're still better than those animals over there, it's in their culture, they can't control themselves.
The other extremely dangerous aspect of chalking up the problems in black and brown communities to simply culture, is that if it becomes more commonplace or a full blown narrative, it makes it easier for authoritarian leaders or those who do not have the citizens best interest in mind, start to dehumanize that group who's "culture" can't be helped, make it easier for certain groups to feel superior. Then it's just a short jump, if those leaders want to do harm or acts of violence enacted on that group by those that feel superior, because you've dehumanized them in their eyes. I know that sound a little over dramatic, but it's a slow burn we really need to look out for in this day and age.
I'm exactly 10yrs older than you, and while I didn't grow up in the hood, I wasn't in no gated community either, lower middle class blue collar family and neighborhood, I was lucky to have a really great dad, who was socially conscious, and just one of the kindest people I've ever known, I knew we were slightly poor, but my dad never let me and my sister forget our privilege, not the word he used, but let us know there's people out there struggling a hell of lot more than us. So I started paying attention to what I could at relatively young, like college age, young 20s, and for a long time in my late 40s, I really thought kids were worse today, things went down hill, but I really think that's because we look at our youth with so much nostalgia, every generation does.
Damn I rambled like an old fool at a Sunday BBQ, here's the thing, I have found in life, when there is polarizing issue, whether it be personal thing in your life, or a social issue, neither side of the argument is rarely 100% right, the truth usually lies somewhere near the middle. I think it's ok to say there is a decent amount of the black and brown community, especially the young adults, that need a fire lit under they ass, and quit blaming everything and everyone, take some responsibility for ones own actions, and start being an example to follow, and lift themselves and communities up. While at the same time recognizing how far behind the 8ball systemic racism and oppression has put people of color in this country. I think both can exists at the same time. And if we can except that, then people can burn less energy deciding which side of the issue is to blame more, and start putting more energy into fixing the issue, regardless of the cause.
IDK, sorry I rambled, just my thoughts on it, props for responding intelligently and respectfully, been getting a lot of negativity for disagreeing with Sowell, it was nice to head into the weekend on a civil and positive note. Have a good weekend.
Start following other black conservatives on social media and TH-cam. You do realize that conservatives are Republican? In the beginning of the video they read from Wikipedia that he was democrat, which is incorrect. Democrats are liberals. Conservatives are Republicans.
@@MPerry-ox9qb the thing is that as I get older the more I realize that I have things I'm conservative about and things that I'm liberal about. In all honesty I hate leaning heavy towards being either a Democratic or Republican. I'd rather use my own moral compass on subject matters in an unbiased manner.
I really love the honest discourse between you guys. Being able to ask questions freely without judgement and challenging each other without offence being taking is one thing that is missing in many of these conversations. We can't choose where we come from but through education and acknowledging where individuals need improvement, we can choose where we go. Please react to more videos like this 👏
I’m a white Christian conservative male. I’ve been watching Thomas Sowell for over a decade, love this man and consider him a brilliant mentor to anyone who will listen to him. I would vote for him for president over absolutely anybody in the world. Thomas Sowell is a great man and a genius.
Thomas Sowell's narrow point of view supports your narrow point of view, that doesn't make it right.
Well then your an idiot. you have been listening to him for over a decade? and you have never bothered to do any actual research to see if he is telling the truth.
spoiler alert! hes not.
"Sowell’s arguments are, in the main, sophomoric in construction and ideologically resistant to intervention from the real world. Despite his bluster about Evidence and Facts that purportedly come to knock down the house of left economic and racial ideas, Sowell is unique even among the conservatives he’s usually cited with for his immunity to real knowledge and his social-scientific sophistry.
Given the gargantuan volume of Sowell’s popular writing, I’m going to need to focus on the central cluster of claims Sowell is known for. This is essentially aggregated from a variety of Sowell’s work, since much of it is repetitive-the primary books I’m addressing are Discrimination and Disparities and Black Rednecks, White Liberals, combined with the vast expanse of Sowell video interviews and clips available on the Internet. I’ve broken down what I see to be this central cluster into its constitutive claims in order to deal with them in sequence:
1.Disparities do not prove discrimination, particularly pertaining to Black-White economic inequality in the US.
2.Black Americans, especially the worst-off living in urban centers, have a “redneck” culture that was handed to them by White southerners via Britain. It is this culture which produces bad behavioral patterns, such as crime and single parenthood.
3. These behavioral patterns are exacerbated by the interventions of the welfare state.
4. It is these behavioral patterns from the combination of culture and welfare that lead to Black-White economic inequality.
5. Black people are blameworthy for their inequality-producing behavior.
Each of these claims, as well as the argument as a whole, are riddled with problems of argumentative logic and empirical evidence. In many cases even just one of them would tank the entire enterprise; the sum of all of them is utterly damning."
Dr Vosburg, PHD, Ohio State University.
@@heathwirt8919What are you talking about?
@@Watjalukinat they don’t know,they came to troll and that’s it.
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You wouldn't have said that asinine comment had he said he was a "Black Conservative". Just be honest and cut the bs.
You young men are brilliant. You are the future of the black community. Don’t under estimate the power you have. Change starts with you.
I totally agree. White liberals are perpetuating all of this. They are making race relations worse. I am a 54 year old white consevative woman and am telling you that anybody white or black can accomplish anything they want with good education, character, and morals. Don't let liberals tear us apart. When I grew up, we didn't think about the color of a person's skin. Some of my best friends were black. Great people , but the liberals are putting this racism into the heads of the younger generation as a way to tear us apart. As a way to keep everyday people down, white and black. It is a way for the rich liberals in politics and society to keep us all down. So that the rich famous people have all of the control. In reality, it is the rich and powerful against the poor and middle class. Which is what Trump was fighting for. Please, people, wake up. Our country is being destroyed!
LMAO @mickiaal7689 Seriously? Brilliant??? hahahahahahahh
@@TravisTennies bruv chill. being actually normal minded in current time is rare... so it's kinda brilliant...
OH sweetie they were just sitting around waiting for you to say so. Now you got your virtue signal gastank filled up, you can go act like an ass to them IRL.
Not buying into the division the powers that be are sowing@@TravisTennies
You young men are in an incredible position to discuss and mold what strong, thinking men can accomplish. Introspection is always needed to move forward. Very good to see in any productive person of character. Thomas Sowell is a truth bomb to the lies that the left has been telling since the 1960's.
It's wonderful that you guys listened to such a national treasure as Thomas Sowell. This man must be remembered and celebrated AND emulated!
Too bad they think he is a Democrat .
@@michaeljohnson6976 Too bad he thinks the answer lies with republicans. Nothing could be wrong further from the truth.
@@cagnazzo82 you're brainwashed, Republicans are better people all around.
Bill was hardly regulated! Still debated 'til late: the date & day when Dave did cave & played tones of rave to grave stones, all day, about his debut stated: highly anticipated!
This fella Ted once had a whole cellar cellulated... from fear of getting constipated... if fishiing with rod: my lure is baited.
Dude did vomit from worrie his nephew fainted! by accident he painted he saw when two furries mated!
*I'm sry about my medication...
@@michaeljohnson6976 There is only one thing we know for certain about Thomas Sowell's political leanings and that is: he is 100% conservative, but he could be a conservative democrat (like Joe Manchin - who stated emphatically that he is not - nor ever was - a liberal) - or he could be a conservative Republican - like you or me. Did he specifically say his party affiliation is Republican? I haven't seen evidence of that anywhere. All I know is that liberal and far left democrats do not like him.
Thank you for this video. I am a middle aged white female. I started out watching your react to music videos, and I love them. But this was on another level. YOU guys are what I want ALL generations and ALL races should look up to. Having a great conversation, differing opinions without name calling and violence. The passion for these subjects is so needed. I am sharing this with everyone I know. You learn from these conversations. If I say something that offends you, say so, I WANT TO LEARN. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
But you should also teach, because not everyone who is offended has the moral high ground.
You fellas are inspiring. Thanks for sharing your learning process with us, it's really fun and WAY more valuable than most of what's on TV.
Dr. Sowell is a national treasure. I wish he could live to 125, and I love seeing young, thoughtful fellows like you guys sitting down and listening to this great man.
Absolutely!!
I'm 60 and white and have read about 12 books written by Thomas Sowell. He's one of my favorite people on the planet. Highly educated to say the least and brilliant. Backs up everything he says. He's been around since the 70's where he debated all kinds of people. Hope he outlives me, the world needs more people like Mr. Sowell. I love the objective dialogue of these young men, these are the future movers and shakers.
Only white people like Thomas Sowell!
Thomas Sowell is one of your favorite people on the planet? Maybe you can tell what some of his contributions are to the fields of economics or law are - both supposedly his specialties - because I don't think he actually has any work that's considered to be serious, must-read material by the actual academic research community in either category of study.
But as a white guy, I can see very clearly how he's beloved by white conservative/libertarian boomers for his anti-interventionist, anti-regulatory, anti-union, and anti-political correctness takes. All of which seem shoddy at best.
Looks like we disagree on some things. Have a good day.
@@johnbows2555 Let me guess. You're an "academic".
@@Rich32262 Looks like we'll never resolve our disagreements on those things.
Old white guy here. I didn't grow up in or near a ghetto. But the brilliance of Thomas Sowell is immediately apparent to anyone who listens to him or reads his books. I believe that America is yearning to be free of racism. Powerful forces continue to divide us in many ways. Visionaries like Sowell are needed.
Id say there is a part of America that yearns to be free of racism, but unfortunately there are still too many of those who live their lives by only seein race and holds onto that victim mentality. This is a diverse issue, so many things to tackle.
foh
Yes, it's easy to say there's people who do not want racial peace. However, just because you get say cut off in traffic by someone of a different race. Racism? Nah. Probably a "jerk", could have an emergency but most likely just a bu**hole. They come in all colors and persuasions.
@@jennaeveliina313 It could be solved very, very simply: any time someone tells you that something is because of your race, ignore them. They don't want you to succeed, they want you miserable in failure.
Like them.
There is still a considerable amount of racism in America. We still have a long way to go.
"Equip yourself with skills people are willing to pay for", Wow! Simply said, yet very powerful.
As a middle aged white guy , this was eye opening. This was one of the best round tables on race I've ever watched. You are setting a great example for all races to follow.
Here's a gift with the hope you can get your conversations into the public schools. Thank you so much for what you are doing.
The best way to easily make money is to talk negatively about black people.
I have tremendous respect for your willingness to consider many points of view and discuss them in a serious, but respectful manner. You are an example of what the world needs right now. You are so lucky to have each other as friends - what a fantastic group of young men with so much going for you.
This far they have only reacted to right wing political content, so no many points of view yet.
@@laredolassoo Agreed, but within the context of this review, they are mature enough to listen to one another's viewpoints, respectfully.
I've been watching multiple videos from you guys over the past days, and I'm really enjoying it. I'm a 51 year white Irish female who was raised in the US. Watching young group of guys such as yourselves wanting to learn and enlighten yourselves. I just find it so wonderful.
I love to learn and research facts, and it's so fun to watch a younger generation expanding their minds.
I am an educator with almost three decades of experience, and I logged into my account ... just to say, "thank you" for being a wonderful example of excellence. I would love any of my students to engage in such a lively, respectful conversation. Keep up the great work!
I'm happy to see yall have an objective and fair discussion around this topic it says good things about yall character
It's nice to see young black men using Thomas Sowell for their platform.
It's like I'm witnessing real black culture; civil, intelligent, free-thinking with morals.
These guys should have thier own prime time tv show broadcasted into as many homes as possible. Pres Obama should have had these guys in his cabinet.
A great experiment would be to relocate a whole black community in any city, then repopulate it with blacks that think like you guys and see the results in 10 years. I bet it would really be a eye opener for the whole country.
I just wish they'd stop calling thomas a Democrat. He's a free market libertarian. They definitely got me following them now. In 1972 Thomas registered as independent.
Condescending to black people.
Not a single 4th of July celebration has made me feel as patriotic and proud of American culture than watching these men openly conversing over this philosophical question. These videos are a real pulse of what people actually think. These discussions y'all are having is so important.
As a white guy that's only culture was christian. I was raised in southern california, i had more brown and black friends then white being where i was raised. one of my greatest memories growing up was hanging out at my black friends Antwon and Ricardo, trying to write songs like Kayce and Jojo. when their moms would come home from work she was so kind, she would treat her kids so well and showed me an example of real love. From an outside perspective, i think black culture in America is love and understanding. When I went to a black church i felt no nervousness, i felt completely accepted. When i was at Antwon and Ricardos house, their mom treated me like one of her own sons....I dont know black culture, but i did experience the love. One Love.
What you experienced is not majority black american culture.
as a brazilian what i see about black culture is just self destruction on this big cities, in brazil you only see black people doing this kind of stuff in rio de janeiro and são paulo, in the rest of the country everyone is the same depending on the region, if you are from the northeast you will act like you are from there it does not matter if you are white,black or mixed, when CNN came to brazil and started doing this race shit everyone mocked then and they stopped doing that. they were like " a young black man doing this and that" people were like what the fuck? why it matter if he is black? now they just say a young man... they don't put race on the news anymore because media in brazil don't do that.
Christian not a culture but I get what you’re saying
@@oladeebiazazi4538it’s a way of life/relationship with Christ (Yashua) 🤝🏾🙂
This is how good things happen guys. Yall in this video are good examples for black kids to look up to. Being free thinkers, having conversations. Good to see.
Changing the culture 👍🏽 it doesn’t happen completely all at once. Someone has to start it to show there’s another way
I love you guys you can go a long way toward changing the negative
This discussion is one of the most interesting reactions I've seen. It's an actual conversation. That's refreshing.
Thank God for Thomas Sowell. He is a true intellect.
The gentleman in the white cap in the front, is a perfect example of what the next Thomas Sowell can be, to rise up and change a community, and a Nation.
You are intelligent, well spoken, insightful, and passionate. You inspire me.
Well done, Sir
He's consistently the one to grasp things first and is able to phase it in a way that gets the others on board. Dude's a leader and should seriously pursue that if he isn't already.
My thoughts exactly!! Love him! ❤
Keep watching Thomas Sowell! It was so refreshing to watch and listen to a real discussion! The tolerance, willingness to explore and understand alternate perspectives, and the genuine desire to learn, that you all demonstrated in this video was awesome!!!