Real black culture is right in the room right now. Young men being civil. Intelligent with morals not degrading to each other getting educated. Open minds. I love watching you guys.
That's not black culture, that's American culture. And these fine young men are American through and through. I'm proud to stand by them, regardless of the color of their skin. It's the content of character, not skin color!
They’re getting close to the real issues. White cap guy said we don’t need more rappers, we need to raise up black people doing things like work a nine to five. He’s almost asking the right questions. Why are those rappers pushed by the labels? Guys praising violence and murder, calling women bitches, n word every other line, drugs drugs drugs. These people are glorified by ghetto culture. George Floyd becomes a hero cuz the media said so. Reality is Floyd was a drug addicted criminal loser who was always gonna die a violent death related to drugs and crime. Race baiters like Al Sharpton, Joy Reid, Barack Obama make millions by telling black people they’re victims. Somehow, they got rich, but tell you the white man is keeping all black people down. Obama made $30 million while he was president. Clinton made $42 million while he was president. They’ve both made many millions more after leaving the White House. Ask the right questions. You’ll soon realize it’s all lies, corruption, and bullshit meant to keep black people poor and dependent on government.
As a black man from one of the deepest ghettos in Jamaica i can tell you the most empowering thing you could ever do is to not define yourself by your race but as a unique individual. It's like taking off a metal armour. It's a special type of freedom. You guys are on the right path
Exactly well said! Negative black culture is a ball and chain of self-destruction and any smart black person will do anything they can to separate themselves from it.
As soon as you define yourself by your race you chain your value to something you personally cannot control. Nobody should carry the burden of representing a whole race. It is an impossible expectation. The white liberals goal to make blacks think they need to be united only hurts them. Whites are in no way united they are split 50/50 on almost every issue.
As an African who moved to the UK in 2006, I initially never saw myself as oppressed as I focused on the positives of being black, whilst some of my associates focused on oppression. Today most of them are behind bars, and I'm still growing to be the best version of myself. What you focus on, you'll become 💭
my friend in barbados feels the same. that's why now i say "black americans", because not all black people have the same culture. america is just dumb on the surface, that's why they think all hispanics/latinos are the same culture too 😂
allow me as a pastor in a church to springboard your wisdom for a moment... King, we often speak of looking at The Lord in worship as "beholding" Him, an Old English term. One day I had the thought, along with your term "focus on" , that what I am beholding , I will one day...be holding. The thing in everyday life I am fixated on, will one day come to pass in daily life, good or bad. Love your testimonial of growing!!😇
Young men, as an older black man and veteran what, I can tell you is that you’re making black culture by looking at different ideas and making up your own minds. So proud of you guys.
Greg, thanks for serving in the forces. I hope you got a lot out of your experience, and didnt get injured or anything too badly. I appreciate the people who've kept this country safe. Also, I agree with you about these young men. They are doing a great job, and I love seeing them get a lot of views. This country will get so much better if we can help all of our people in the rougher subcultures get past what's holding them back. Sowell talks about it with whites and blacks, but I feel the Hispanics also have some as well, and probably some other groups that I don't even know about. Overall, I just think it's awesome to see people working to make their lives better, because if they succeed..... they can make their families lives better and their communities better.... those are all wins, for everyone! There is much stuff on TV that makes me feel negative about the future... then I see these guys, and see the truth... there are a lot of good people out there.
Amen to that, I am also a veteran. I believe active duty gives you the opportunity to meet people that you may not have ever met. People from all walks of life, it makes you more well rounded in so many ways. I admire these men for thinking outside the box, not because they were told but because they want to explore other ideas.
yep. and the guy in the back was onto another issue. we need to make more out of people outside of the entertainment industry. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, journalists, engineers, etc. We can be more than just court jesters.
Thomas Sowell was a Democrat (until 1972) and became Independent (after 1972) ....Thomas Sowell got off the Democratic Plantation and never looked back and has been correcting the record ever since.
@@yogijager not even close!! I stand corrected on my comment. I haven't studied him long so I wasn't aware that he at one point in his younger years was a Marxist but has now come to his senses and understand how this world works and what's actually important
By his own words, Thomas Sowell described himself as a dedicated Marxist in his early years of education. He has come a long way, lived almost a century by now, seen all fads and fallacies for what they are. I applaud him, respect him.
Best thing I've seen on TH-cam today. These five young men make me more optimistic about our future. There is no singular "black" identity, any more than there's a singular "white" identify, yet people don't see that when they're bogged down in identify politics.
Some entertainment figures profit by portraying stereotypes and cliches, so these cultural monoliths get perpetuated. I don't think most gangsta rappers, or whatever the current tag is, speak for the average black person, any more than Kid Rock speaks for me.
Damn as a 50 year old black man I am so happy and proud to hear these perspectives, young people like you who are willing to open up their minds to reality and recognize the inner power and control you have in your own lives gives me hope for the future. Spread your knowledge.
So true. Victim mentality is worse than a crutch, it's a cancer. We need to go back to MLK's teachings and focus on the charter of the person not the colour of the person's skin. Universities are segregating campuses based on race and this is seen as "empowering minorities". It's really depressing that we're regressing after all the strides to get past all that garbage. Young people need to put a stop to this because they have the reins.
I am a black womam who didn't grow up with black subculture. There isn't one black culture but it's always a stereotype and not indicative of everyone as a whole. How you are raised and where you are from frames that as well. My mom is black, and my father it turns out is biracial. My step-mother, who is white, helped raise me. I lived with my father. They were married in the late 60's. My father expected greatness. There was no victim mentality. I spoke standard English. I loved reading and my vocabulary is vast because I loved literature (especially Russian literature). I am successful and educated. There were no limitations placed in my consciousness and that makes a huge difference. Yet, in college, the black kids wouldn't speak to me because my white step-mother dropped me off and I was deemed--not being black enough. It hurt me deeply but I learned to just be myself and not care what they think. Foundation and mindset are crucial. I don't want other people making excuses for me or apologizing for my bad choices. Personal responsibility has left the building in the US and today's race issues are so skewed it's ridiculous and sometimes scary. I love Thomas Sowell. He exposes the truth and I'm proud these young men see it.
Bingo! As I always say, Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) is key to success, regardless of race! Dr. Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum and others in the Black community that talk about this as well, I'm sure you're big fans of them too :)
AGHHHH... as a white woman from England.... Good Lord I cannot wait for us all to be blended!!! We are all HUMANS! don't have to be white or dark black! I hate all of this! We are all one race..the human race! I LOVE my black friends so deeply and yet we still have "this' thing...ugh it's so dumb to me!! However, with all that said... I hate it when I hear anybody say AXS for Ask!! LORD!!
I like what you said. It "sounded" so rational. I found these men a little hard to listen to because of the interruptions and stoppages but I appreciate their honest approach to the subject. As an older person I already know some of what they are covering but with patience I may learn a little more.
Exactly!! I think they're looking for role models to be a beacon of "black" culture. In fact, they need to change their mindset to "that's an American, meaning I can do that too". If they're looking for traditions specific to black people, I think they need to ask the previous generation (their moms/dads/grandmas/grandpas), what are the traditions and values that they hold up.
@@aaro96liveVery well said! Which goes for any culture. I’m Hispanic and me and sisters looked to our mother and our grandparents for traditions, values, and integrity that we were taught and watched growing up. Love your post!
american culture since its start has been nothing but stealing , lying ,murdering and many other negatives not just here but around the world , show me where I'm lying
I agree, but they need to get their facts straight. Sowell is NOT a democrat. He’s a leader in the conservative movement. He dropped Marxism and the Dems more than 50 years ago.
As an older black woman, I'm so glad to see you young black men having discussions regarding these matters. I pray that you continue to grow in knowledge and wisdom.
As a black 57 year old woman, this made me feel so proud to see young black men conducting a discussion that goes against the news media's narrative of who we are. Thank you for being brave enough to break the stereotype chains the media salivates over.
Wrong. If a stereotype is accepted and embodied. It doesn't matter what the media says. The cat on the right was correct. You have to change the pioneers and voice of the culture. All these kids wouldn't have face tattoo's if shit rappers weren't influencing their immediate culture and ego. This has nothing to do with media but an individuals embodiment of what they represent.
@mr. nihilz There is not a right or wrong when it comes to appreciating one another for positive intentions. I agree with you and hope you are a part of what you speak.
Look, I'm white. I've been apart of "bad" cultures too. I left those cultures behind to succeed in life. It's an obvious issue amoung AA culture. Some thing we should talk about without being labeled as racist. Bevause it's not racist to note bad methods, philosophy, attitudes and actions.
I'm a white 73 year old man, retired professional, college graduate. I have been watching you guys often reacting to music. I find you guys entertaining as you discover the jewels from years gone by. But, today watching you guys was heart warming. You are respect of each other, and your minds are open. The media in America has a bias of omission (they don't report a lot of stuff you need to know.). Black White, we are all the same. Sin and greed has corrupted the world. I think you guys are onto it. I like you all. I wish you the very best and I will continue watching you!
54 year old white male here, I agree with you 100%. When I first started watching these young men they were reviewing a Larry legend video. They seemed a bit biased but as I watched more of their videos I started to see the open mindedness and they also have started to listen to the videos they watch and talk over each other less.
56 white man here. I have enjoyed a lot of the videos these guys do and always enjoy listing to how they discus issues. We need more of this and they give me hope.
57 year old white guy here too. Thanks for giving us hope. You guys get to inherit America. Enjoy it. You deserve it for making the world a better place.
Thomas Sowell is 92 years old. That’s 92 years of reading, studying, research, life experience and wisdom. He also has a research team. You can’t argue with him. You will lose. One of the most brilliant minds of our time and one of my heroes. Yet so many have no idea who he is.
The universities refuse to teach the critical liberal minds like him and John McWhorter completely. They only teach Kendi, and Robin DeAngelo. They refuse to teach both and let people develop their own critical thinking abilities. Instead they opt for a specific narrative, whereby if you argue your moral character is put into question.
As an older black American, this video gives me hope for the future of the black community, fantastic young black American men. Not look at yourselves as victims.
I am so happy you did not African American. That is just another phrase from Race Hustler's. We are all Americans no matter the pigment god blessed us with.
Worst thing you can do. Democrat party wants to keep blacks victims. As a white American it’s plain to see what’s happening. Get away from Democrats as fast as you can.
It’s very refreshing to see young men have healthy conversations about society and questioning what they know and does it hinder or help them grow. Continue to strive for better.
As a white male and an ex combat veteran, these men remind me of some of my friends I served with. They worked hard, stood for their beliefs, color was never a thing for us. I appreciate men who are smart enough to weed through todays BS, and understand they can decide their own path…. I love that kind of power. Strong men=Strong results.
The Democrat party try to mask control with concern. They want to keep the black people down . Democrats were carpet baggers after the Civil War. They have always wanted to keep those of EVERY RACE poor and dependent. TMO
@@Jiminy-trxas a is a good signal that they’ve never interacted with anyone other than their own. Lol now we need more black people to drop to their knees and make them feel welcome
I'm from Brazil and always get scared when I noticed people in US do not know about Thomas Sowell. For me, one of the greatest minds in US, still alive. It's never too late!!!
This is because what black american culture has become over the years. The youth have been groomed to idolize black Hollywood, gangsters, rappers and athletes. Every single one of these groups are the armpit of black America..uneducated , clueless and promote the worst things imaginable without caring one bit they are role models to the youth. It’s got to a point where political parties pay these “famous” blacks for them to promote their party and the kids will follow without a clue of what’s actually going on. It’s not their fault technically because it starts at home. 70% of these kids grow up in single home families , usually w no father and as they say, u don’t find a father at home u find him on the street …. Thomas is someone many blacks call Uncle Tom because they think He acts white !!! He don’t act white. He don’t talk white!!! He acts and talks like an intelligent black man to me that cares for his people. He’s going against the grain trying to force a change … people like him help start groups like cartierfamily and officer Tatum … god bless them all
Your culture is American. Don’t look up to people who are only black. Look up to people who offer knowledge and wisdom regardless of their skin color. If you consider the ideas of someone only because they’re the same skin color as you, then you’re already setting yourself up to never grow as a person. “Judge someone not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.” -Martin Luther King Jr
Well said. You guys are the future keep opening your minds to all races. We are all human beings, all with rights that all should stand up for. Good going guys.
Yep... Black americans are americans... White americans are americans... Anglo American to be clear (and some others such as french as probably this guys are) ... Actually in folkoric terms, banjo comes from Africa and guitar (used in blues) is european roots
Sowell is 92. He won’t be physically with us someday, but his mind and words will be here as long as people want to learn. All his ideas are explained so well in his books and they’re not hard to read and understand. I love him!
Yeah, Thomas Sowell is one of the few people lucky enough who will live past his time on this earth, through people's memory and his work he leaves behind. I hope he feels content with all he's done.
We need more honest conversations like this. Not the race baiting that fills the media and politics. Government and the wealthy prosper as they divide us.
HES A SELLOUT OVERALL.. BUT HE ALSO DOES MAKE GOOD FACTUAL POINTS.. BUT OTHER MORE PRO BLACKS COVER THIS AND MORE.. SOWELL IS JUST A PAID PUPPET OF MILTON FRIEDMAN..
I’m a white guy that grew up in a black neighborhood. As I got older I started to see that there was always toxic aspects to the culture I was surrounded by, ie. a clear Idolization of criminals and cheating in romantic relationships. I saw many of the brightest kids I grew up with throw their futures away to act thug so other black kids wouldn’t think less of them. Ya know, Everyone does stupid shit to try to fit in as a kid, but when fitting in means actions that cause real harm to your life and the lives of those around you it’s an issue.
Yup, even other culture has sub-cultures as well. Chinese mainland and Chinese oversea are total different, then Chinese from Taiwan is different as well. If you listen to Chinese mainland, they will tell you to hate Japan, hate US and worship Mao. Similarly I have seen Vietnamese group that keep swearing at everything while another group very polite. Many children growing up, they need to blend in to certain groups and overtime, they become similar to that group because they don't want to stand out.
The culture we are surrounded with as we grow up has a huge influence. I am from London and in the UK right now white working-class boys have the worst educational outcomes, worse than Black British boys, worse than Nigerian immigrant boys (who usually do really well as Nigerian parents are notoriously strict and expect high grades), worse than all other males in other groups. This is because the white working class in the UK has devalued education and emphasized other ways to show masculinity for generations. The class system in the UK, especially a few generations ago made it impossible for a working-class man to get a good education or rise in society so the expectations are just not there. Alternative ways have been adopted to achieve status. The cultural problems go down the generations. Racism definitely exists but the family who raises you and the environment you are surrounded by have a much greater impact. The UK currently has a Prime Minister of Indian descent and plenty of ministers in top positions who are from various immigrant nations. Their skin color and racial background didn’t hold them back, usually because they have a strong family who have high expectations. People rise or lower themselves to the expectations set for them a lot of the time. The answers are never simple but it’s very hard to resist the negative pressures from your peers if you don’t have strong role models protecting you, usually parents.
@@viviennedunbar3374 yes, cultural influence plays such a huge part, I think the majority of racism we see in the US towards African-Americans stems from current black culture’s influence on the black community, where as if you look back to black culture in America during the early 1900s it featured stronger community and family values, values that would see black communities doing better in many metrics than their white counterparts, and unfortunately values that have fallen by the wayside as time has gone on, which I believe leads to most of our current issues.
@@Dedskees What would explain the far worse racism toward those black communities back in the early 1900s? Racism is what drives racism. Racist white people are racist against black people because they look for negative examples that feed into the stereotypes they already have. They look at anything negative that any dark-skinned person does and use it to perpetuate their narrative that black culture is criminal culture. They don’t see people as individuals. There are countless white criminals, but these white racists (who are far more common than people seem to think) can classify those people as outside the white culture, when they don’t offer the same courtesy to anyone that doesn’t look like them. What’s white culture? What’s black culture? Any definition you create only defines your preconceived notions.
Thanks for your comment a certain group seems to think another group is the problem in the black community but the things you Named are the exact cause of the effects of glorifying gang and drug culture and pimp culture
As a 72 year old white woman, I really live your take on this. When I think of black culture, I remember Motown and how they dressed, how great the music was, I think of Jazz and Blues and how your culture has influenced our music and in turn, my memories of my youth. Thomas Sowell is a treasure to everyone and we are all made better by his wisdom and insight.
I'm a Cuban born man in my 50s and if there one thing that black people should be proud of their culture is the musical influence on all other genre of music and I'm not talking rap but blues , jazz , grass , Motown as well as dances.✌
My mom says that. Back when they made real music. They r using rappers to indoctrinate black people to destroy themselves and the culture is totally disrupted
The real black culture is beautiful … it’s unfortunate that is almost gone.. the faith, the moral, the compassion, the generosity., etc, etc .. ❤ I’m a recipient of it .. magical.
@@queenofnyc5584 culture is not something you create to identify you per say, its all the intellectual discoveries, inventions and art and innovations done collectively which describes one culture. That is every culture in a nut shell. Culture is not where you are from. The way you think of culture is a simplistic way of seeing it and is sold as the truth when it's not.
I moved to another country with my family and we had to get used to another accent and another culture. We decided to take on those mannerisms that were an improvement to ours but hang on to those parts of our accent that make communication clearer and easier to understand. Part of our instict is to keep on learning about ourselves and others for our whole lives. Even as whites among other whites, we don't always feel accepted or understood but we don't have to change completely. Just gradually learn to live and let live. It's so cool that you have heroes you can look up to and learn from. We all need them.
So true. Once I saw it I am unable to unsee it. It’s annoying sometimes. Be watching a movie and I can see the undertones and half time people are telling me to just shut up. It’s hard to slip back into ignorance once you see it. Btw I don’t think ignorance is bliss
Not many of our people know of Thomas Sowell. He’s a brilliant man who understands the black experience. I’ve never heard his name mentioned during black history month. But he should be. I applaud these gentlemen for taking the time to dissect this interview. You give me hope for your generation.
Sowell rants against affirmative action while having gotten into Harvard based on affirmative action. He rails against welfare while having had the state pay for both his original career in the military and then paid for his education at Harvard. The problem of course is not Sowell any more than it is with any 'intellectual', the problem is the governments that listen to them and the lack of lobbyists. He constantly talks about the necessity of higher education, although lately what gets shown is the stuff where he tirades against colleges like the one that educated HIM. Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society. You will be cleaning up behind somebody or serving somebody the rest of your days. But his remarks about education get lost in the mix. Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. The massive bloated bureaucracy he complains about, and yet NO liberal argues for bureaucracy, but for the same thing. A society that makes sure each person can live up to their potential, and help them out when they can't. THOSE things get lost in the mix and instead are non ending conversations about political correctness and terminology. Thats the mark of not living in a democracy, people play NO part in the actual decision making, so you need to pretend that they are playing a part by endless pontificating.
@@mikearchibald744 Where is the evidence that he got into Harvard based on affirmative action? "Welfare" =/= "government paying for stuff". "Welfare" = "government paying for stuff while you give nothing in return". Him being in the military was a trade. He signed a contract that stated that he would do X and the government in return would do Y. "Welfare" is only one way. "against colleges like the one that educated HIM" Gee, it's almost like those institutions have changed since he was in them. "Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society." I mean, that was true a millenia ago. The problem is that people seem to think that the only route to "education" is through the university system. "Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. " Where has he argued for such? Nevermind that social security is essentially a racket, whereby the money you supposedly "put in" is not worth the same when you are able to "take out".
@@groerulesyourface Affirmative action was used since before world war 2, it was a method to get education to people who didn't access it before. The GI Bill was a form of affirmative action where soldiers were put into college without having the requisite high school diplomas or marks. But congratulations, thats the typical level of Sowell fan, to start a debate with "your so ignorant". He'd be so proud.
@@cstgraphpads2091 He was a soldier with only middling marks as he admitted. He got into Harvard, you do the math. Welfare is government doing shit IT DOESN"T NEED TO DO. A military is exactly that, in every war soldiers are brought on board and quickly trained and sent to war. There are countries with almost no military, one of which is now been fighting a major power for a year without one, and there are militaries that are essentially not in use, like Switzerland or Norway. So thats the welfare state. Soldiers are trained for jobs that for the most part don't exist and WON"T exist, unless the state puts them into action, thats why early american libertarians were even against STATE rights becaues they said permanent militaries are the first sign of the welfare state. Just becaues a country keeps starting wars doesn't change that fact, actually it proves it. So what you call 'productive' is irrelevant. A single mother raising a child to YOU might not be 'productive', which is ironic because conservatives complain so much that women should at least be able to stay home with the children. But if there is no husband, suddenly that function is 'not productive'. Sowell keeps on about these MOSTLY fictional 'just lazy people' who are supposedly collecting welfare while doing nothing, ironically the society has no problem using government to throw money at the owners of Raytheon, the owners of which have NEVER done any work for decades. NOW the value of education is WAY beyond what it was in the past. The surest way to stay in poverty is to only have a high school education. You think you are going to be a doctor or engineer by saying "hey, I've read all the textbooks in my spare time at home". Good luck with that. You can learn a TRADE without college, but that puts you at the mercy of that trade and essentially dictates where you can live. I know tons of welders, great skill to have but there are no jobs in it here. I see you don't really get the gist of social security, the money you get out is WAY more than the money you put in, just like an RRSP in an institution is way more than what you put in, thats the whole point. Without social security the country would be a full on third world country.
Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson are a couple of role models to emulate. Plus it would be beneficial not to separate by race or anything else All men are created equal 🇺🇸
Exactly, complex problems of society require clear and level-headed exploration, mutual respect, based on facts, full disclosure of any bias, honesty, and completely devoid of emotional manipulation or mob-rule. We can not allow the least mature people to dominate simply because they yell loudest.
This is about bull sh.t European culture embodies genocide of Native American people along with theft of their land and valuable resources. Many of the early settlers were slaveholders who beat raped and murdered many of their slaves with no legal recourse. After slavery ended many black Americans who were regarded citizens were still subjected to laws and customs of this country that denied them their rights with indignant treatment. Again European culture is the culture of rape murder and theft to gain their semblance of success. After slavery white culture endured people such as Billy the Kid and Jesse James who were murderers and robbers. After the crime wave of the post Civil War period white culture led to the rise of organized crime dominated by immigrant Irish Italians and Jews and others. We all have heard of the MOB and corrupt judges and politicians who represented a lawless culture. Thomas Sowell’s head is in the sand. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not race hustlers but advocates who are addressing issues to improve the lives of black Americans. Redlining exists along with disinvestment in black communities such as real estate owned by black Americans being assessed lower than their white counterparts. The justice system is designed to harm blacks more than whites. This list goes on and on!!
PLEASE do more Thomas Sowell! Thomas Sowell should be taught in every school. This man knows so much. It is a shame he doesn't get the chance to get the attention and rewards he deserves. There is more than just this. I would suggest reading his books, and watching other interviews.
I have Basic Economics. It's amazing. I took Economics in college but I never understood it the way I do now since reading that book. He explains things in such realistic ways that are so easy to understand and uses real life examples for his theories. He is such an amazing teacher.
@@staceykudera8558 ye such an amazing teacher. so easy to understand. doesnt use big wordsor facts. just spouts unproven dangerous untrue therios. hes an absolute shit. ignore sowell. better yet research the heck out of sowell. see for yourself.
@@b.entranceperium he learned his philosophy from Milton Friedman, who is responsible for the shit state the economy has been in since Reagan. cycles of boom and bust with massive wealth inequality is what he is a proponent of. make no mistake... he is a conservative propagandist and nothing he says holds any actual merit in the real world.
As a half White half Aboriginal Man form Western Australia, all I can say is "Keep Questioning your current culture". Take what is positive, throw away the rest. Never blame. Keep climbing. You men are inspiring, truly. Thank you.
Super important. The deification of culture the concept is a death trap. Culture is a consequence of how you live. Don't pay attention to it, don't go out of your way to preserve it. Let it be a consequence, not an end goal. The GOAL is living well.
What is this blame argument so you would not accept reperations from the Australian government if offered or are you insinuating that what happened was acceptable!
this was great. especially when thomas sowell said the way for a young black man to succeed was the same as for anyone - "equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for". perfectly put, and i'm pleased it was well received by the participants here. liked & sub'd
You can have the same qualifications as your Caucasian counterparts in Silicon Valley if you’re African American. They don’t hire African Americans here. The brown people that work here are from India. The companies have for years refused to disclose their hiring lists or percentages
@@mariaroyal1691if that’s the the true, that’s interesting because California is a blue state which means it’s the democrats that are being racists despite all their race baiting
The dude in the white hat is on top of his shit. We are products of our environment and I’m glad to see you guys stepping out of that “if you’re black you have to be ghetto” mentality. I’ve told many of my friends the same thing growing up. Much respect fellas.
@@slatebook2384 exactly my point. Just as I did. But yes being raised in one situation or another can determine the type of mind set an individual can have. You grow up in the country around deer hunting all the time odds are you’re going to love deer hunting as a result. Pretty simple.
@@odyesus9893 Indeed. We have a choice between being a bad person or a good one. What amazed me is that since the 70' bad ones are praised/admired/supported in movies, music, arts, politics and in all western countries.
Agreed. 29:28-29:50 is very true and applicable to ANYONE encountering another race especially if you have little experience with that race your interacting with imo.
And let's not define other people either. It breaks my heart every time I hear black men refer to black women as less than human. Black women are talented humans, not b*ches. Same goes for black men, they're not ninjas, they're our brothers.
Yes, discussing real issues helps people grow. They stopped the video now and again and went into the ideas. But then, when they started the video back, there was silence as they were glued to the idea of learning more. You can see how their focus was intense. They were 100% invested in learning more. To challenge what they had been told to believe. Agree, disagree, disregard, it didn't matter. These guys became involved. That is truly wonderful.
@Lol okay Wow. Yeah, that’s depressing. What a shame, given the inherent power of our technologies to promote good; it seems like the opposite is what happens all the time. I feel like the entities responsible for promoting violent and antisocial ideas in hip hop hate black people and hate humanity. Black Americans have contributed so much to the world that is beautiful and life-giving and eminently worthy of respect and praise, yet raunchy, violent rap has probably been promoted and spread out to the world much more than their other, truly awesome contributions.
I'm a white 60 year old woman and I am proud to see you guys progressing further in life with learning and sharing your discussions and thoughts..ideas. kudos 👏
Thomas Sowell is an absolute legend. Highly respected and highly intelligent. Warms my heart to hear you young men listening to someone that has been a mentor to so many.
I've listen to many of his informal lectures and from the first time I heard him I was in awe at his level of wisedom. Too many people have high IQs in academia to memorize highly manipulated information derived from echo chambers, but no wisedom. This is why their so-called "experts" are often so horribly wrong in their predictions. Worse, it is incredibly dangerous, because unlike Professor Sowell, typical academia buys into the absolute fallacy that basic human nature can be altered (even worse, they think it can be altered through theory alone today!) No matter how hard someone tries, one can not erradicate selfishness, greed, envy, and so on, from human nature. When it is tried, it ALWAYS ends in utter disaster. This is where Prof. Sowell steps in and would say, we can't alter human nature, but we know when people have freedom, stability, and hope, they are more likely to be happier, better people, and act as good role models. Thus the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness with boundaries ending where another's freedom begins, to which this is enforced though consent of the very people who enjoy those rights. Professor Sowell understood this well, which is why is really was an incredible man.
@@echo-channel77 agreed. I remember seeing Thomas Sowell on television when I was a little girl. My parents were watching something where a panel of people were having discussion. I remember they were really bickering and angry except for Thomas Sowell. He was the only one who made sense and gave his responses in a calm articulate demeanor.. I didn't know who he was at the time but he really stuck out as a voice of reason to me. Later as I got older I found out who he was. Brilliant man and a true gentleman.
Those young men are an educator’s dream: they are listening, then listening again if they aren’t sure about hearing something correctly, looking up what they don’t know, processing what they’re hearing and talking about if they agree or disagree and why, and relating it to their own experiences. Keep being awesome, guys! Great to hear what you have to say.
This is great to see because college campuses across the US no longer allow these discussions, free thinking or debate to occur and disagreement is not allowed. They created “safe spaces” for those offended. Its ridiculous and does nothing to benefit our youth
They still need a lot of work. But education aint helping by lying to them about "dey culture" They all think they INVENTED JAZZ or PEANUT BUTTER. If they're learned from people like Sowell instead of liberal LIARS, they'd learn a lot more and probably would be outraged about all the lies.
@@reneechavez9866 isn’t university meant to be the one place you meant to debate and have intellectual warfare all these creating safe places is creating a society that is the most sensitive insensitive generation of that makes sense we ain’t allowed to have our own opinion anymore we forced to go along with all these new agendas they pushing heavy
I am a 73 year old white, suburban, conservative, retired, New York metro college professor. I taught business and economics for over forty years and Thomas Sowell was my favorite economist during that entire period. I have watched many of your reaction videos and I always find them interesting and informative. What I love about The CF group is that you are teaching and learning at the same time. Please keep it up by being yourselves. I really like your different points of view and your different communication styles. I have subscribed and will continue to tune into your reaction productions. Thanks,
That’s right, I’m going to keep it up being myself. We are the most talked about race of people on the entire planet, Blacks in America. Black people this, Black people that. But I always look at the group of clowns criticizing our people. I say well, from what I see? All races have mess in it. For mr. Sowell to criticize Jesse, Al and other leaders, but they have helped out more than him. I have no respect for Mr. Sowell, all talk and I see no action. This need to be done and that, but just write a book, that benefit him, but Jesse and Al can’t reap benefits. LMAO Peace, much love. S/o to my people in the hood, some of you have more values than them
@@yo3rdtier128So basically you support 2 grifters that have single handedly done more harm than good...got it. Where are they when it's B on B crime? Where are they when B women are aborting their babies? Where are they when fathers leave the home? Where are they when mothers have 5 children with different fathers? Why is it they only show up when the W race is involved? Why don't they talk about crime against Asians? You know the reason just as we all do...there's no money in it.
@@yo3rdtier128 You really don't get it. You're another lost soul that's been brainwashed into believing the bullshit being forced upon you. Try educating yourself about true facts and not blindly believing what your leaders have told you to believe.
@@yo3rdtier128 FACTS!!! Thank you, I couldn't agree more. I've always understood why white people are drawn to Sowell, a sort of blessing from an older man of color that tells them that theirs no more inequality or systemic racism in this country, so it's ok to be happy with the status quo and continue acting like everything is fine. What I don't get is how many of the younger generation of black folks seem to really support what Sowell has to say. Last I checked Sowell was a brilliant economist, when did he start becoming the expert on American history and black culture?
So refreshing to see young black Americans having fun and discussing important political matters that are really prevelant in our country and lives. Thank y’all!
I’m a white Christian conservative male. I’ve been watching Thomas Sowell for over a decade, love this man and consider him a brilliant mentor to anyone who will listen to him. I would vote for him for president over absolutely anybody in the world. Thomas Sowell is a great man and a genius.
Well then your an idiot. you have been listening to him for over a decade? and you have never bothered to do any actual research to see if he is telling the truth. spoiler alert! hes not. "Sowell’s arguments are, in the main, sophomoric in construction and ideologically resistant to intervention from the real world. Despite his bluster about Evidence and Facts that purportedly come to knock down the house of left economic and racial ideas, Sowell is unique even among the conservatives he’s usually cited with for his immunity to real knowledge and his social-scientific sophistry. Given the gargantuan volume of Sowell’s popular writing, I’m going to need to focus on the central cluster of claims Sowell is known for. This is essentially aggregated from a variety of Sowell’s work, since much of it is repetitive-the primary books I’m addressing are Discrimination and Disparities and Black Rednecks, White Liberals, combined with the vast expanse of Sowell video interviews and clips available on the Internet. I’ve broken down what I see to be this central cluster into its constitutive claims in order to deal with them in sequence: 1.Disparities do not prove discrimination, particularly pertaining to Black-White economic inequality in the US. 2.Black Americans, especially the worst-off living in urban centers, have a “redneck” culture that was handed to them by White southerners via Britain. It is this culture which produces bad behavioral patterns, such as crime and single parenthood. 3. These behavioral patterns are exacerbated by the interventions of the welfare state. 4. It is these behavioral patterns from the combination of culture and welfare that lead to Black-White economic inequality. 5. Black people are blameworthy for their inequality-producing behavior. Each of these claims, as well as the argument as a whole, are riddled with problems of argumentative logic and empirical evidence. In many cases even just one of them would tank the entire enterprise; the sum of all of them is utterly damning." Dr Vosburg, PHD, Ohio State University.
Asking "What is our culture" is exactly the trap - you're not a slave to a culture. Make up your own culture, steal the best pieces from other cultures, or don't even lock yourself to some kind of cultural identity at all. Like Bruce Lee said, style is a prison.
@Kobe Iron "Never go looking for someone to tell you what you should be or who you are." Yes indeed! Our creator gives us the one and only chance to be ourselves every moment. The more we renounce the opportunity, the further we drift from our own divinity.
@@kjaze You do realise by being religious you are doing exactly what your advocating against right? The entire point of religion is to tell you what you should be or who you are for the sake of controlling you. You are of course free to be that way (unless you live in a country where you are not, in which case I pity you), but do be aware of that basic fact at the same time.
Old white guy here. I didn't grow up in or near a ghetto. But the brilliance of Thomas Sowell is immediately apparent to anyone who listens to him or reads his books. I believe that America is yearning to be free of racism. Powerful forces continue to divide us in many ways. Visionaries like Sowell are needed.
Id say there is a part of America that yearns to be free of racism, but unfortunately there are still too many of those who live their lives by only seein race and holds onto that victim mentality. This is a diverse issue, so many things to tackle.
Yes, it's easy to say there's people who do not want racial peace. However, just because you get say cut off in traffic by someone of a different race. Racism? Nah. Probably a "jerk", could have an emergency but most likely just a bu**hole. They come in all colors and persuasions.
@@jennaeveliina313 It could be solved very, very simply: any time someone tells you that something is because of your race, ignore them. They don't want you to succeed, they want you miserable in failure. Like them.
I'm so glad you guys loved him! You guys were talking about "not being able to fix anything because it's too far gone" ... you're helping to fix it now! Keep doing exactly what you're doing. Help others become aware. Not only black people but everyone because everyone has challenges and barriers that need overcome and awareness is the first step. You guys are on the right path! So proud of all of you! ❤ Not everyone, regardless of culture or race, seeks truth like you guys are!
😊Lol It is particular members of the white race that are vehemently and even violently at school board meetings, NOT seeking the truth. Why aren't you asking them, as young Black men to help make particular white people aware of their misperceptions about the intellectual differences between races?
@@YaHUKaB_ShaRYAL_YaShaRAL Discrimination and Disparities Sowell is correct that intentional racial discrimination (according to Sowell’s classification, Discrimination 1b and 2) at a given juncture - say, racial discrimination by an employer - cannot fully explain Black-White racial disparities in economic outcomes. It does not follow, however, that therefore the remaining racial disparity not explained by acute racial discrimination is not caused by racism in society. Sowell concludes that, for instance, employers and realtors and bankers will make choices about hiring or real estate or loans based on the relevant qualities the individual brings to the table, such as education, credit scores, criminal or eviction history, and so on (this is what he calls Discrimination 1a). People have differences in the quantity and quality of these they can bring to the table, and thus it is perfectly reasonable to find inequalities in economic outcomes. What is not answered by this, however, is why these inequalities would be unevenly distributed by race. It’s certainly not a realtor’s fault that there is a Black-White disparity in credit score, but that difference is not a natural fact of the universe. I and most other social scientists believe that there is inherited inequality from the entire history of American social life that at least in part accounts for why the distribution of these sorts of things are unequal by race. The literature on inherited racial inequalities in sociology, economics, and history is simply massive and cannot be hand-waved away. As it stands, Sowell’s argument on this point is hopelessly endogenous. This argument is also wrapped up with the claim that any government intervention intended to reduce disparities will result in unintended consequences that will most likely make things worse for the people you’re trying to help. This is, in the terms of Albert Hirschman, the “perversity thesis” - the common conservative argument that whatever change you want to implement in society will actually do the opposite of what you want it to do. The reason why this rhetorical move has power is because it seems intuitively true, and sometimes policies do have consequences of this kind. But it simply does not logically follow from the example that some such policies backfired that any such policy inevitably will.
It's refreshing to hear these young black men listening and reflecting on Thomas Sowell's knowledge. I am seeing the future YOUNG THOMAS SOWELLS IN THE MAKING. The future is Bright for the Blacks Future leaders of America.
These young men are not buying into the stereotypes…They are defining their own place in this world! YOU ARE KILLING IT💕 From your biggest Canadian Fan supporter/fan 🇨🇦
@@paulhester489 Thomas Sowell is overused because there aren't enough big names that can say this shit, back it up, and get away with it because they can't get stamped with the "racist" label by woke dipshits
I applaud you brothers for talking about Thomas Sowell. He's a brilliant mind that has been kept out of media for so long because he speaks against the narrative.
I’m a white man and I’m proud to see these 5 in this video being analytical, honest and based with this conversation. I as a white man have seen a lot of ignorance in these discussions because people don’t want to talk the truth. Especially in front of a white man…We need more people like these 5 because being analytical, based and honest is the first steps for improvement. If you ignore all this then how are you meant to know why and how to remove the problems…Great video, keep doing what you’re doing👏
Congratulations guys for discovering Mr. Sowell. I am a 62 yr old American woman , with Mexican heritage and I absolutely LOVE Mr. Sowell! He is such a treasure of knowledge, wisdom and many other virtues.
@Jesus A. Martinez yes, the author of We Wanted Workers, Jorge Borges. He discusses how illegal Immigration hurts Blacks and Latinos while enriching the wealthy and powerful and enslaving the illegal aliens. Great question, btw.
I'm an older white man an i watch you guys a lot. I enjoy your perspective on things. And we all can learn a lot from our history. Knowledge is power. Have a nice day.
I'm a white European man, only ever been to US a couple of times. I grew up quite interested in hip hop culture but then started distaining aspects of it as I grew older. At some point of my life, I thought I am racist. The reason is because I started disliking a lot of black people I met, to a point where I realized It's wrong to dislike someone because of their skin colour and didn't want to feel that way but I couldn't help it. Over time I have realized It had nothing to do with skin colour at all. It had to do with this culture of violence, greed, narcissism, etc. I hate it in all people but through social conditioning I actually subconsciously believed that is black culture. Part of my realization came when I met several African immigrants who were a bit older and I found them absolutely amazing, virtuous, kind and intelligent.
i dislike most black people ive met. probably 90% of them. but i never disliked them before I met them. gave them their chance without prejudice. I am not racist. but at the same time i dislike 90% of the people i meet after i meet them. maybe im just a hater.
@@christoff124 I can relate to that, a few years ago I thought I was a misogynist, but now I've come to the realisation that I don't hate women, I hate people.
The greed and narcissism is what gets me the most. Folks in this culture will burn down everything and everyone around them for their own self interests, then complain that they can't catch a break.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738ya it’s simple just don’t make judgement on people based on anything other than someone’s character. Just like MLK said. You realize most people suck and it’s just a reflection of society at large. People suck and it has nothing to do with anything other than the content of their character.
Hip Hop culture, AKA Gangsta rap, has absolutely DESTROYED the black community. I love the discussions you are having. And... The Shaq is a FAR GREATER role model for young men than LeBron ever thought about being. He's an amazing human being.
That's because Shaq engages in a tremendous amount of self hate and cooning. Meanwhile, James is likely to critique the white power structure and demand societal changes. One is happy he's made it and praises his overlords, the other isn't happy with simply making it alone.
Crazy take. Stands up for what he believes in, no father growing up, has the work ethic and grind to keep himself at the top of his craft regardless of age, very involved in his children’s lives, married his high school sweetheart, no real scandals that I’m aware of…? On top of the fact that he created a school for underprivileged kids and helps put them through college. You may not agree with some of his political takes (totally valid), but to shrink his accomplishments and to declare him a poor role model is just factually incorrect. Not his biggest fan but ludicrous to paint him in a negative light due to personal biases.
LeBron has to be probably one of the most level headed NBA players in the game right now, and has been for a long time. How anybody could even think LeBron isn't a good role model is actually insane.
It has nothing to do with his personality and/or "work ethic". I'm sure he worked hard to get where he is. I have ZERO problems with that. But he's a racist. He literally HATES white people. Not only that, but his big time sponsors use slave labor to make shoes that they sell for ridiculously high prices. Shaq refuses to have his name attached to any shoe that costs ridiculous amounts of money, and he goes around and plays ball with the kids in bad neighborhoods, reminding them to get a good education and stay out of trouble. He puts his money where his mouth is, not JUST for the black communities, but for ALL people, regardless of skin color. THAT is my reasoning. He's just an all-around better human. *shrugs* take from that what you will.
I started Thomas Sowell with his Basic Economics (he explained the whole economics without a single math beautifully), and then now I am into his fourth book. That man is a treasure ❤
@@kyletangen9446 Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. It's what kept me firmly in the religious camp for so long. You just have to separate yourself from the people who believe the same stuff you do for a few years, and you'll be accidentally exposed to new ideas. If you don't, your friends and family will quickly dissuade you from straying from the flock, usually with some very poor reasoning.
I totally agree. White liberals are perpetuating all of this. They are making race relations worse. I am a 54 year old white consevative woman and am telling you that anybody white or black can accomplish anything they want with good education, character, and morals. Don't let liberals tear us apart. When I grew up, we didn't think about the color of a person's skin. Some of my best friends were black. Great people , but the liberals are putting this racism into the heads of the younger generation as a way to tear us apart. As a way to keep everyday people down, white and black. It is a way for the rich liberals in politics and society to keep us all down. So that the rich famous people have all of the control. In reality, it is the rich and powerful against the poor and middle class. Which is what Trump was fighting for. Please, people, wake up. Our country is being destroyed!
OH sweetie they were just sitting around waiting for you to say so. Now you got your virtue signal gastank filled up, you can go act like an ass to them IRL.
That he said was stupid when he said in thr 40s he didn't hear Gun shots when bumpy and his gang were running harlem there were plenty of murders the difference is that 1 it wasn't the crack era and with the crack era more guns were put in our neighborhoods because the government put them there AND 2! GUNS WEREBT AS ACCESABLE AS THEY ARE TODAY! and wen he speaks of words that black people use today like "ain't and y'all" were also used by rich white men then black people started using it and white pple were saying it wasn't proper fast forward now these words are in the English dictionary
@@Grip9od the black mafia wasn’t shooting random people or killing kids by accident…do some homework just because you have a gun doesn’t mean you kill people…
From a veteran. Some of the most important leaders and relationships in my life have been from persons who are black. Also, you fellas are showing what black culture is right here. It's easily recognizable, you're diplomatic, thinking freely, speaking freely, open minded, compassionate, empathetic, tolerant, and intelligent. For my brothers who are black that I served with. You are brave warriors, disciplined, patriotic, inspirational, selfless, godly, charismatic, and noble. They got me through some of the most real struggles this world can throw at men. Nothing but love and respect. These round table discussions you guys do says black culture is alive, healthy, and prospering in you guys.
As a white guy that's only culture was christian. I was raised in southern california, i had more brown and black friends then white being where i was raised. one of my greatest memories growing up was hanging out at my black friends Antwon and Ricardo, trying to write songs like Kayce and Jojo. when their moms would come home from work she was so kind, she would treat her kids so well and showed me an example of real love. From an outside perspective, i think black culture in America is love and understanding. When I went to a black church i felt no nervousness, i felt completely accepted. When i was at Antwon and Ricardos house, their mom treated me like one of her own sons....I dont know black culture, but i did experience the love. One Love.
What you experienced is not majority black american culture. as a brazilian what i see about black culture is just self destruction on this big cities, in brazil you only see black people doing this kind of stuff in rio de janeiro and são paulo, in the rest of the country everyone is the same depending on the region, if you are from the northeast you will act like you are from there it does not matter if you are white,black or mixed, when CNN came to brazil and started doing this race shit everyone mocked then and they stopped doing that. they were like " a young black man doing this and that" people were like what the fuck? why it matter if he is black? now they just say a young man... they don't put race on the news anymore because media in brazil don't do that.
I'm 60 and white and have read about 12 books written by Thomas Sowell. He's one of my favorite people on the planet. Highly educated to say the least and brilliant. Backs up everything he says. He's been around since the 70's where he debated all kinds of people. Hope he outlives me, the world needs more people like Mr. Sowell. I love the objective dialogue of these young men, these are the future movers and shakers.
Thomas Sowell is one of your favorite people on the planet? Maybe you can tell what some of his contributions are to the fields of economics or law are - both supposedly his specialties - because I don't think he actually has any work that's considered to be serious, must-read material by the actual academic research community in either category of study. But as a white guy, I can see very clearly how he's beloved by white conservative/libertarian boomers for his anti-interventionist, anti-regulatory, anti-union, and anti-political correctness takes. All of which seem shoddy at best.
Such a great video guys. I am an 80 year old white woman who had watched that Sowell interview so wanted to see your reaction to what he stated. I am pleased to see your responses. I think a lot of what he said was to make sure the people you follow, black/white/etc. are worth listening to. So much all of us hear today is either right/left thinking.Fill your mind with the truth and you will not go wrong.
This conversation actually gives me hope for the future of younger generations of young Black men. There needs to be more of this type of conversation to wake our people up from the nightmare Black Culture has become in the last 20+ years.
@@sunshynff At 42 I've seen it go from "Stop the violence", "Self Destruction", "Say no to drugs" to become the exact opposite in our communities. Growing up in the projects was not looked at as something to brag about. Going to jail was not something that young Black youth looked at as a badge of honor. We believed that education was the key to success, not glorifying ignorant and ratchet behavior. Yes there absolutely is a problem with Black culture today. Somewhere down the line we stopped upholding the standards and dignity we once had that our elders tried so desperately to instill in us. We used to joke about "Bebe's kids" not knowing the whole culture would shift around it.
@@akiraxtreme ...Im not saying there isn't a problem within the black and brown community, I just hate seeing it being called culture. Culture with any lighter skin tone almost always relates to sophistication, (having) class, suave but you put culture and black together, and you're not at an African heritage festival or a social justice meeting, it automatically has a negative connotation. It's another way for the ruling class to marginalize a group, "other" them, convince the poorest whites, they're still better than those animals over there, it's in their culture, they can't control themselves. The other extremely dangerous aspect of chalking up the problems in black and brown communities to simply culture, is that if it becomes more commonplace or a full blown narrative, it makes it easier for authoritarian leaders or those who do not have the citizens best interest in mind, start to dehumanize that group who's "culture" can't be helped, make it easier for certain groups to feel superior. Then it's just a short jump, if those leaders want to do harm or acts of violence enacted on that group by those that feel superior, because you've dehumanized them in their eyes. I know that sound a little over dramatic, but it's a slow burn we really need to look out for in this day and age. I'm exactly 10yrs older than you, and while I didn't grow up in the hood, I wasn't in no gated community either, lower middle class blue collar family and neighborhood, I was lucky to have a really great dad, who was socially conscious, and just one of the kindest people I've ever known, I knew we were slightly poor, but my dad never let me and my sister forget our privilege, not the word he used, but let us know there's people out there struggling a hell of lot more than us. So I started paying attention to what I could at relatively young, like college age, young 20s, and for a long time in my late 40s, I really thought kids were worse today, things went down hill, but I really think that's because we look at our youth with so much nostalgia, every generation does. Damn I rambled like an old fool at a Sunday BBQ, here's the thing, I have found in life, when there is polarizing issue, whether it be personal thing in your life, or a social issue, neither side of the argument is rarely 100% right, the truth usually lies somewhere near the middle. I think it's ok to say there is a decent amount of the black and brown community, especially the young adults, that need a fire lit under they ass, and quit blaming everything and everyone, take some responsibility for ones own actions, and start being an example to follow, and lift themselves and communities up. While at the same time recognizing how far behind the 8ball systemic racism and oppression has put people of color in this country. I think both can exists at the same time. And if we can except that, then people can burn less energy deciding which side of the issue is to blame more, and start putting more energy into fixing the issue, regardless of the cause. IDK, sorry I rambled, just my thoughts on it, props for responding intelligently and respectfully, been getting a lot of negativity for disagreeing with Sowell, it was nice to head into the weekend on a civil and positive note. Have a good weekend.
Start following other black conservatives on social media and TH-cam. You do realize that conservatives are Republican? In the beginning of the video they read from Wikipedia that he was democrat, which is incorrect. Democrats are liberals. Conservatives are Republicans.
@@MPerry-ox9qb the thing is that as I get older the more I realize that I have things I'm conservative about and things that I'm liberal about. In all honesty I hate leaning heavy towards being either a Democratic or Republican. I'd rather use my own moral compass on subject matters in an unbiased manner.
It's nice to see young black men using Thomas Sowell for their platform. It's like I'm witnessing real black culture; civil, intelligent, free-thinking with morals.
A great experiment would be to relocate a whole black community in any city, then repopulate it with blacks that think like you guys and see the results in 10 years. I bet it would really be a eye opener for the whole country.
I just wish they'd stop calling thomas a Democrat. He's a free market libertarian. They definitely got me following them now. In 1972 Thomas registered as independent.
I am latino from Central America and I grew up in New Orleans and I have several family members who are black. I want to cry when I see the guetto films on youtube about how the black youth is growing up and behaving, no future is what I see, just self destruction. It is with great pleasure and it is very human worthy to see a group of young black men sitting down and discussing real life problems that have been going on for decades in the black community. I always ask myself "where are the Malcom X`s of today?, WHERE??? It is up to you guys to start a beacon of knowledge and spread it amongs your community for a better life which you deserve...Salutations from Barcelona.
As a White man, raised in Calgary, Alberta, it pains me deeply to see what is happening in our culture today. My best friend since I was 17, I moved to the US to live with mum to graduate, I met a Black guy. We became friends and actually best friends. I learned so many Life Lessons from this friend that they really are too many to name. He went through a lot of grief having a White friend I know. Gang influence and the resultant crime is tearing this country apart. He was also the best damn harp player that I ever heard, I play guitar. He was the God Father of my daughter, the best man at my wedding...... He died a few years ago, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't mourn some more.
As an 81 year old white man reared in segregated south, I must say this is the best , by far, conversation ever on yourtube. These young men present a better generation than their predecesors. Just love to see men using such common sense interpreting real life in this country. I hope they can spread their viewpoint to the other colored men in their generation . Makes me really feel like their is hope for this country after all. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this video for all the world to see. Please continue spreading your message. Also , Thomas Sowell is a true american treasure (patriot) for us all to study and implement his common sense views. Have a great day and continue with your passion in presenting a positive cultural change for your and future generation.
As a white guy, I love this discussion and you guys are inspiring. I found you because I follow Thomas Sowell and love and admire his work. He is never mean and never bombastic or condescending, but man he is a full-blown genius. I think your group will change many thousands of lives for the better if you keep doing these videos in this incredibly humble way. Thrashing things out in a group is so effective in sending a positive message.
Not a single 4th of July celebration has made me feel as patriotic and proud of American culture than watching these men openly conversing over this philosophical question. These videos are a real pulse of what people actually think. These discussions y'all are having is so important.
The world NEEDS more conversations like this among young black Americans. This was incredible to listen to and brings so much perspective to things. Loved this video. ❤
I also think it would do young white Americans some good to watch, listen and seriously discuss these issues too. They may be the newest "victims" in our society because of the pervasive and persuasive mentality that's being pushed in the public schools, social media and power-hungry politicians and their shills. It's fracturing our society, particularly in the young adult age group, and I think the cultural elites with all the money and power like George Soros and his foundation are behind all of this.
I’m a white guy. I grew up primarily in my younger years in south Florida. A large population of people from Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba all through my neighborhood. In the 1980s we all got along. People went to church together, school, the beach, etc. It wasn’t like it is today. Everyone getting offended by everything. I’m definitely subscribing. Keep up the great work.
Bill was hardly regulated! Still debated 'til late: the date & day when Dave did cave & played tones of rave to grave stones, all day, about his debut stated: highly anticipated! This fella Ted once had a whole cellar cellulated... from fear of getting constipated... if fishiing with rod: my lure is baited. Dude did vomit from worrie his nephew fainted! by accident he painted he saw when two furries mated! *I'm sry about my medication...
@@michaeljohnson6976 There is only one thing we know for certain about Thomas Sowell's political leanings and that is: he is 100% conservative, but he could be a conservative democrat (like Joe Manchin - who stated emphatically that he is not - nor ever was - a liberal) - or he could be a conservative Republican - like you or me. Did he specifically say his party affiliation is Republican? I haven't seen evidence of that anywhere. All I know is that liberal and far left democrats do not like him.
As the white father of two black sons that has seen racism from both sides the fact that you 5 are even taking a look at all of this is a great step in the right direction. I wish each of you the best and keep of watching and researching tremendous people like Mr Sowell.
You’ve never wondered why Sowell following is overwhelmingly white conservative? You know; the same people defending the confederate flag talking about "this is about heritage" ?
As a white American male, I enjoyed the input of all five of you young men. Great content! Thomas Sowell has been a personal hero to me for years. My children are well aware that they may get a diploma, but they have not graduated by my standards until they have read and known Dr. Thomas Sowell. I was taught growing up; That culture was the expression of values. So even a rapper that expresses the positive values that you feel are important, deserves to be listened to. Any behavior whether it's speech, food, art, dress ect that expresses the values you collectively share, becomes culture. Does that sound about right? I could be over simplifying it. Again, thank you for sharing your content. You've given me hope that my sons will be become men in an America where black and white are united like yen and yang. I hope my sons reach your age and have friends that come together like you men have.
@@catwrangler7907 won't listen to anything Tyson has to say as he is a huge vaccine pusher and with a the evidence of it all being a big scam and showing him to be 100% wrong , he has no credibility.
@@catwrangler7907 Christopher Hitchens is perfect exactly where he's at today, where he always should of been. A miserable, raging, indignantly self-righteous, self-flagulating oyster that loved the smell of his own farts. Neil is a not as smart as he thinks he is wokester. Sowell is a way underappreciated intellectual. The fact you can't tell the difference tells me all I need to know about you, disciple of lies.
@@Jointknight you can take Kanye, Candice owens, Ben Carson, Herman cain, diamond and silk, alveda king, darrell scot and all those tap dancers with your uncle Thomas
Dr. Sowell is a national treasure. I wish he could live to 125, and I love seeing young, thoughtful fellows like you guys sitting down and listening to this great man.
yes if you believe his lies you will be convinced that racism isnt a problem. but ask these young black men how they feel around the police and you will soon see that Sowell is talking crap.
Man this is one of the best youtube videos I have seen. Just people grappling with new ideas in an environment where they feel comfortable expressing themselves. Love it.
Im neither black nor white..im from india...i love this episode so much...after countless videos from alleged experts..vid like this from the common man is like a breath of fresh air! Keep fighting guys💪💪
yes but they should follow it up with research. is Sowell telling the truth? is he speaking facts. lets check....... no. no he isnt. he has ignored all the main facts to pretend that racism isnt a problem. it really truly is. and people pretending racism isnt a problem. is a big problem.
@@NeilLewis77 what do you claim Sowell is fabricating? A lot of the things he said seems rational. While i do agree racism is a problem, i disagree that it is as big a problem as society makes it out to be today. People use racism as a trump card rather than an accurate depiction of the problem.
@@actuallyken8874 yes it all seems rational. untill you do some actual research. just read one paper by an actual PHD and you will see the problems with Sowell.
@@actuallyken8874 im sorry, you "disagree that racism is as bad as society makes out". thats just something racist people say. thats good old fashioned racism mate. saying to black people "what you moanin for, it used to be worse than this" is something racist white americans have been saying for a very very long time. if your diminishing someone elses problems then your just adding to the problem.
@@NeilLewis77 nobody said existing is easy and nobody should pretend it is. Everyone has problems and things to overcome. It depends on if you are willing to overcome those grievances or be paralyzed by them in fear. There are millions of things we can become with our individual feeedoms. We have long since abandoned the idea that our skin tone depicts our outcome and that has been proven false for decades. It is our actions that people see now. It is the culture and ideals we choose to express that depict our interactions in society.
I absolutely love the genuine debating amongst yourselves. This is literally how it's done. People getting together and discusing controversial subjects to the point that all sides can listen and understand and communicate their opinions without being ridiculed. 🎉 you all are amazing...and entertaining..keep up the great work
My apologies for not knowing names, but the young man in the white hat is brilliant! He gets it! Idolize and emulate individuals like Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Dr. King and Frederick Douglas, as well as the countless other brilliant and successful black leaders throughout history that are much too often dismissed or ignored! Thank you for allowing us to be part of the raw and honest discussions after the videos. You guys give this old man so much hope for the future that I've worked for and dreamed of my entire life! Love you guys!
i agree.im so proud of these young men for seeking truth.and looking for broader horizons.we are all living on the same planet.how about we evolve? and grow together.
yeah, the man with the white hat gets it. They live in America, they're not African Americans in truth, they're just Americans that originate from Africa generations ago and happen to be black. They do have culture, it's not the ghetto crap, they have the music and arts from their racial history in US, but also the general American culture- celebrating thanksgiving, Halloween etc. Might sound stupid but I'd even say steaks and burgers are part of American culture. It's a huge country so there will be subcultures that have their own traditions. America is a mixing pot of various cultures, whatever unites and brings people together in a peaceful way is culture.
I grew up in the 60s, in a "ghetto" in DC, attended all black schools straight through high school. The culture we had was work hard, keep your nose clean, respect your elders, and most importantly, the knowledge that you had to be twice as good as your white counterpart once you went out into the "world" just to have a chance at an opportunity. Failure meant not just disappointing your parents but others in the neighborhood as well. Everyone I grew up with had that same experience. The teachers we had in those all black schools were the best, and they drilled into us not only the basics, e.g. how to read and write, understanding mathematics, history, etc. But also civics and our responsibilities as citizens. That was the black culture I knew. We knew of the subculture Sowell is talking about, but it was the exception and not the rule for black people, at least at that time. Ghetto culture is said to be "black" culture, as if all blacks are somehow bound to or steeped in that culture, and its simply not true. Yes, there were some back then who were, as the old folks used to say "no 'count" but we didn't hear gun shots either, and by and large people were for the most part striving to get ahead. I know of many doctors, lawyers, engineers and others who came out of what Sowell and others would call the black ghetto, because the culture we had was one hard work and excellence. That's HISTORICAL black culture.
@foundationssofmusickkk5488dc and pg county actually had the largest black middle and upper class in the country back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. There were also a lot of poor black people here obviously, but no, not every black neighborhood was a “ghetto”
Hard work and excellence is American culture it’s not just black culture. Even that is racist thinking and we’ve got to stop it. I was raised with the same values you were obviously raised with and I’m white. People of all colors have those same values of working hard, respecting your elders, etc. but when people say “now that’s black culture” then you’re excluding everyone else and separating yourself as a separate culture a separate group of people which is wrong. We are all Americans with a shared American culture and that includes people in history of all colors whether it be Harriet Tubman, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King Jr., George Washington, Booker T. Washington, John Quincy Adams, etc. Everyone who has come before us is our shared history and our shared culture. We are not separate people because of our skin color and need to stop falling into that mentality, it’s a trap that helps no one and hurts everyone.
@@anjoleeeickhoff6800 When black folk have to hear day in and day out, to this day, that negative "ghetto" culture is somehow black culture, that "all of us" need to "not be like that," as if we all are, that's what needs to stop. When we as black people say our culture is one of excellence it isn't excluding anyone but a logical response to those of you who insist on pushing destructive stereotypes about what is and isn't black culture. There is absolutely nothing racist about black people saying ours is a culture of excellence, especially when in fact it is true, and when it is delivered to counter the continuing racist narratives about how "all black people are." As a white person you should be able to accept others declaring what's great about their own culture without getting into your feelings and automatically seeing it as somehow an attack on white people. The life experience in the US of Harriet Tubman who was not even allowed to be a US citizen for most of her life, and that of John Quincy Adams is far different and pretending there were no differences does a disservice to the real history and yes, culture of America. Like it or not, America IS a multicultural society, and that's what makes this country great. There is no one, homogenous culture, and its ridiculous to expect that when people come here from so many other countries, bringing their culture with them. I can't even imagine what this country would be like were the rule "check your culture at the door" and (try to) homogenize with a dominant group that supports a political party whose success rides on division. Non white Americans have contributed so much to this country that is taken for granted. To say to them/us that we cannot declare the excellence of our own culture, and be proud of it, lest we somehow qualify it with the experiences of white people, is racist. Americans need to learn to live and let live, accept, respect and embrace other cultures for what they are and stop trying to whitewash the differences in culture away out of fear.
Sowell is at peace with himself, unlike many black men I have known. His intelligence is a shield against all of the idiots who want to portray everything through race and hatred. His understanding of real History and human nature is refreshing to hear from anyone, not just a black intellectual. At 71 years of age, I don't have the patience to waste time on morons who populate the internet. I will always take a couple of minutes to listen to this man. You're never too old to learn from a great source of wisdom. Wisdom is rare nowadays.
I love this conversation; we have the dominant black culture and various subcultures within the black community. We need to denounce the current dominance of hip-hop and the armful of negativity and elevate the positive ones. It
I'm a young white girl from Denmark, where we have such little diversity because of our population of only 5,5 mil and also historic background, it's hard sometimes to fully understand the level of cultural and ethnic diversity and challenges people face everyday in fx the US. It's has really been an educational journey for me for many years to learn about the racial issues you have in the US that we often read and hear about in the news. I just want to say thank you all for your great reaction and debate on this topic, you all have such great points and thoughts, it's really an important conversation to have. I truly hope and wants to believe things will be better in the US one day in regards to the way people are treating each other based on race and differences, and that so many people and families have to suffer each day. Hi from Denmark 👋🏻
You really should watch both Carl Benjamins, Sargon of Akkad and Thomas Sowell’s break down on slavery. They’re the most honest of all. They’re not long but they’ll teach you more than you thought possible.
Yes, and its unfortunate that you've probably been ''educated'' in very anti-european progressive western narrative when it comes to interracial politics in north america.... western academia loves to demonize whites in north america for thing like slavery, while completely ignoring the entirety of world history. The truth is diversity isnt always the greatest, infact its never worked in history, the north america is the only place to have ever had even marginal success. European countries should NOT be so open to large groups of minorities, white europeans have a right to their homeland the same as every other group, sych as the asians, africans, jews, arabs... north amercia in the mixing pot and will remain, but do not think for two seconds that diversity is some higher ideal. it is not, and in many cases causes significant issues..
What Cece Cox said. A lot of what you see in mainstream news especially heavily pushed by extreme liberals/ extreme progressives and far left political viewers, are not absolute truths. Thomas Sowell goes into depths about the truth in his books and in interviews.
The discussion you guys have here together is emblematic of how everyone should behave in society today: learning from a respected expert like Sowell and then having a civil, thoughtful discussion about important matters like history, identity, and culture in a way that elevates everyone in the room. Fantastic. Never stop thinking and questioning, this country needs people like you.
I discovered Thomas Sowell in highschool because my teacher at the time had told our class that he was a colonized white washed black man who is actively destroying the black community. My curiosity led me to read up on his biography and books. I learned about his life and accomplishments and it made me so angry because this “teacher” was indoctrinating not educating his students. Since then I’ve made it a point to be objective mainly because I grew up in the Bay Area, California which today is as Far Left as you can get. Being a free thinking individual is dangerous these days because it’s a threat to narrow minded authoritarians who are afraid of different ideas. That’s the culture we live in today. That’s the real pandemic. Your videos give me hope for a future that currently looks bleak.
i left the bay area a couple years ago and have never looked back. Its my home, but in the last 6 or 7 years its gotten really bad. Just like you said; Narrow minded authoritarians are the real pandemic.
You will receive more education through your own life experiences and also doing your own research. this Rockefeller educational system was never about educating the population it's about creating generation upon generation of ill informed population of workers.
Real black culture is right in the room right now. Young men being civil. Intelligent with morals not degrading to each other getting educated. Open minds. I love watching you guys.
Truth.
I agree with you David , close your eyes and change the color to brown , white , and you got the culture . American !
That's not black culture, that's American culture. And these fine young men are American through and through. I'm proud to stand by them, regardless of the color of their skin. It's the content of character, not skin color!
Bingo
They’re getting close to the real issues. White cap guy said we don’t need more rappers, we need to raise up black people doing things like work a nine to five. He’s almost asking the right questions.
Why are those rappers pushed by the labels? Guys praising violence and murder, calling women bitches, n word every other line, drugs drugs drugs. These people are glorified by ghetto culture.
George Floyd becomes a hero cuz the media said so. Reality is Floyd was a drug addicted criminal loser who was always gonna die a violent death related to drugs and crime.
Race baiters like Al Sharpton, Joy Reid, Barack Obama make millions by telling black people they’re victims. Somehow, they got rich, but tell you the white man is keeping all black people down. Obama made $30 million while he was president. Clinton made $42 million while he was president. They’ve both made many millions more after leaving the White House.
Ask the right questions. You’ll soon realize it’s all lies, corruption, and bullshit meant to keep black people poor and dependent on government.
As a black man from one of the deepest ghettos in Jamaica i can tell you the most empowering thing you could ever do is to not define yourself by your race but as a unique individual. It's like taking off a metal armour. It's a special type of freedom. You guys are on the right path
Exactly well said! Negative black culture is a ball and chain of self-destruction and any smart black person will do anything they can to separate themselves from it.
BEAUTIFUL 🙌🌏
Individualism is another form of escapism.
@@superafrikanmedialabs8237 if it gives one the tools to escape a poor mindset, I don't see a problem with that.
As soon as you define yourself by your race you chain your value to something you personally cannot control. Nobody should carry the burden of representing a whole race. It is an impossible expectation. The white liberals goal to make blacks think they need to be united only hurts them. Whites are in no way united they are split 50/50 on almost every issue.
As an African who moved to the UK in 2006, I initially never saw myself as oppressed as I focused on the positives of being black, whilst some of my associates focused on oppression. Today most of them are behind bars, and I'm still growing to be the best version of myself.
What you focus on, you'll become 💭
As a fellow Brit, you are most welcome here. Anyone who wants to come here and make a life for themselves as one of us is my countryman
my friend in barbados feels the same. that's why now i say "black americans", because not all black people have the same culture. america is just dumb on the surface, that's why they think all hispanics/latinos are the same culture too 😂
allow me as a pastor in a church to springboard your wisdom for a moment...
King, we often speak of looking at The Lord in worship as "beholding" Him, an Old English term.
One day I had the thought, along with your term "focus on" , that what I am beholding , I will one day...be holding.
The thing in everyday life I am fixated on, will one day come to pass in daily life, good or bad.
Love your testimonial of growing!!😇
Good for you John. Do what's right for you don't follow the herd.
@@Janzer_ exactly, just because we have the same skin color doesn't mean we all have the same agenda, facts over feelings ANY DAY!!
"you equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for" - great line and really motivating
Young men, as an older black man and veteran what, I can tell you is that you’re making black culture by looking at different ideas and making up your own minds. So proud of you guys.
Yeah, but are they making up their own mines, or are they influenced by Sowell's propaganda?
Greg, thanks for serving in the forces. I hope you got a lot out of your experience, and didnt get injured or anything too badly. I appreciate the people who've kept this country safe.
Also, I agree with you about these young men. They are doing a great job, and I love seeing them get a lot of views.
This country will get so much better if we can help all of our people in the rougher subcultures get past what's holding them back.
Sowell talks about it with whites and blacks, but I feel the Hispanics also have some as well, and probably some other groups that I don't even know about.
Overall, I just think it's awesome to see people working to make their lives better, because if they succeed..... they can make their families lives better and their communities better.... those are all wins, for everyone!
There is much stuff on TV that makes me feel negative about the future... then I see these guys, and see the truth... there are a lot of good people out there.
Hell yeah. Glory to Black Americans
Amen to that, I am also a veteran. I believe active duty gives you the opportunity to meet people that you may not have ever met. People from all walks of life, it makes you more well rounded in so many ways. I admire these men for thinking outside the box, not because they were told but because they want to explore other ideas.
yep. and the guy in the back was onto another issue. we need to make more out of people outside of the entertainment industry. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, politicians, journalists, engineers, etc. We can be more than just court jesters.
Thomas Sowell was a Democrat (until 1972) and became Independent (after 1972) ....Thomas Sowell got off the Democratic Plantation and never looked back and has been correcting the record ever since.
Thank you for stating the facts
I was going to mention this before reading your comment. It’s an important fact most people forget or didn’t know.
Wasn’t he a Marxist as well?
@@yogijager not even close!! I stand corrected on my comment. I haven't studied him long so I wasn't aware that he at one point in his younger years was a Marxist but has now come to his senses and understand how this world works and what's actually important
By his own words, Thomas Sowell described himself as a dedicated Marxist in his early years of education. He has come a long way, lived almost a century by now, seen all fads and fallacies for what they are. I applaud him, respect him.
Best thing I've seen on TH-cam today. These five young men make me more optimistic about our future. There is no singular "black" identity, any more than there's a singular "white" identify, yet people don't see that when they're bogged down in identify politics.
Amen!
Identity politics is one of the most destructive forces on the planet today.
Some entertainment figures profit by portraying stereotypes and cliches, so these cultural monoliths get perpetuated. I don't think most gangsta rappers, or whatever the current tag is, speak for the average black person, any more than Kid Rock speaks for me.
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Damn as a 50 year old black man I am so happy and proud to hear these perspectives, young people like you who are willing to open up their minds to reality and recognize the inner power and control you have in your own lives gives me hope for the future. Spread your knowledge.
Seriously. These young men give us old guys hope.
You are so right.
Amen!!!
So true. Victim mentality is worse than a crutch, it's a cancer. We need to go back to MLK's teachings and focus on the charter of the person not the colour of the person's skin. Universities are segregating campuses based on race and this is seen as "empowering minorities". It's really depressing that we're regressing after all the strides to get past all that garbage. Young people need to put a stop to this because they have the reins.
So right it’s a beautiful thing to see.
I believe that Thomas Sowell’s books should be in every public school across the country. He’s a true American treasure.
Agreed!
I agree!
He is a treasure. He has to be one of the smartest and most logical men in history!
Why does he get labeled as a racist tho?
@@redacted5035 I've never heard that.
I am a black womam who didn't grow up with black subculture. There isn't one black culture but it's always a stereotype and not indicative of everyone as a whole. How you are raised and where you are from frames that as well. My mom is black, and my father it turns out is biracial. My step-mother, who is white, helped raise me. I lived with my father. They were married in the late 60's. My father expected greatness. There was no victim mentality. I spoke standard English. I loved reading and my vocabulary is vast because I loved literature (especially Russian literature). I am successful and educated. There were no limitations placed in my consciousness and that makes a huge difference. Yet, in college, the black kids wouldn't speak to me because my white step-mother dropped me off and I was deemed--not being black enough. It hurt me deeply but I learned to just be myself and not care what they think. Foundation and mindset are crucial. I don't want other people making excuses for me or apologizing for my bad choices. Personal responsibility has left the building in the US and today's race issues are so skewed it's ridiculous and sometimes scary. I love Thomas Sowell. He exposes the truth and I'm proud these young men see it.
TY for sharing your story. We all survive this world somehow.
Bingo! As I always say, Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC) is key to success, regardless of race! Dr. Ben Carson, Larry Elder, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum and others in the Black community that talk about this as well, I'm sure you're big fans of them too :)
AGHHHH... as a white woman from England.... Good Lord I cannot wait for us all to be blended!!! We are all HUMANS! don't have to be white or dark black! I hate all of this! We are all one race..the human race! I LOVE my black friends so deeply and yet we still have "this' thing...ugh it's so dumb to me!! However, with all that said... I hate it when I hear anybody say AXS for Ask!! LORD!!
Thank you and congratulations on your achievements.
I like what you said. It "sounded" so rational. I found these men a little hard to listen to because of the interruptions and stoppages but I appreciate their honest approach to the subject. As an older person I already know some of what they are covering but with patience I may learn a little more.
You're culture is..... American!! No race necessary. Love you guys and you're honesty.
Lol yes. It's so obvious. It's sad to see they have not understood this
Exactly!! I think they're looking for role models to be a beacon of "black" culture. In fact, they need to change their mindset to "that's an American, meaning I can do that too". If they're looking for traditions specific to black people, I think they need to ask the previous generation (their moms/dads/grandmas/grandpas), what are the traditions and values that they hold up.
@@aaro96liveVery well said! Which goes for any culture. I’m Hispanic and me and sisters looked to our mother and our grandparents for traditions, values, and integrity that we were taught and watched growing up. Love your post!
american culture since its start has been nothing but stealing , lying ,murdering and many other negatives not just here but around the world , show me where I'm lying
I wish there were more conversations like this happening everywhere. You young men are true thinkers.
Amen I love watching these guys. They restore my faith in humanity in a small way. There's hope.
I couldnt have said it better myself there🎉
These conversations happen all the time. They just aren't online.
I agree, but they need to get their facts straight. Sowell is NOT a democrat. He’s a leader in the conservative movement. He dropped Marxism and the Dems more than 50 years ago.
These guys don't even realize that THEY are the ones setting a great example for what young America needs right now.. awesome stuff
As an older black woman, I'm so glad to see you young black men having discussions regarding these matters. I pray that you continue to grow in knowledge and wisdom.
What she said!!
Ditto also😊
As an older white woman, I am too. 😊🙏
Thank You Renee. The Democrat party has lost its mind
Amen. And im white latino. We all need right information and most of all an open heart.
"Equip yourselves with skills that people are willing to pay for"
Legend statement 👏
“The way anybody else would”
Stolen from jews.
Or maybe just some no duh bullshit.
Yes, here in Wyoming you have welders, mechanics, CDL drivers, etc..., That are making just as much as the public school superintendent with an phd.
@@jerryfinger8659pretty sure that is everywhere
As a black 57 year old woman, this made me feel so proud to see young black men conducting a discussion that goes against the news media's narrative of who we are. Thank you for being brave enough to break the stereotype chains the media salivates over.
They would make Mr. NEELY FULLER JR. very proud...
Wrong. If a stereotype is accepted and embodied. It doesn't matter what the media says. The cat on the right was correct. You have to change the pioneers and voice of the culture. All these kids wouldn't have face tattoo's if shit rappers weren't influencing their immediate culture and ego. This has nothing to do with media but an individuals embodiment of what they represent.
We don't have a race problem. We have a problem race.
@mr. nihilz There is not a right or wrong when it comes to appreciating one another for positive intentions. I agree with you and hope you are a part of what you speak.
Look, I'm white. I've been apart of "bad" cultures too. I left those cultures behind to succeed in life. It's an obvious issue amoung AA culture. Some thing we should talk about without being labeled as racist. Bevause it's not racist to note bad methods, philosophy, attitudes and actions.
Thomas Sowell is one of the most intelligent men in America. He's worth listening to.
In the world …
One of the most intelligent men in the world
I'm a white 73 year old man, retired professional, college graduate. I have been watching you guys often reacting to music. I find you guys entertaining as you discover the jewels from years gone by. But, today watching you guys was heart warming. You are respect of each other, and your minds are open. The media in America has a bias of omission (they don't report a lot of stuff you need to know.). Black White, we are all the same. Sin and greed has corrupted the world. I think you guys are onto it. I like you all. I wish you the very best and I will continue watching you!
54 year old white male here, I agree with you 100%. When I first started watching these young men they were reviewing a Larry legend video. They seemed a bit biased but as I watched more of their videos I started to see the open mindedness and they also have started to listen to the videos they watch and talk over each other less.
48 year old. Exact same thing.
56 white man here. I have enjoyed a lot of the videos these guys do and always enjoy listing to how they discus issues. We need more of this and they give me hope.
57 year old white guy here too.
Thanks for giving us hope. You guys get to inherit America. Enjoy it. You deserve it for making the world a better place.
Were the 70s as fun as they seemed to be?
Thomas Sowell is 92 years old. That’s 92 years of reading, studying, research, life experience and wisdom. He also has a research team. You can’t argue with him. You will lose. One of the most brilliant minds of our time and one of my heroes. Yet so many have no idea who he is.
The universities refuse to teach the critical liberal minds like him and John McWhorter completely. They only teach Kendi, and Robin DeAngelo. They refuse to teach both and let people develop their own critical thinking abilities. Instead they opt for a specific narrative, whereby if you argue your moral character is put into question.
What are you talking about what Thomas Sowell is saying is not entirely true
Being old does not make one wise or right.
@@stimpsonjcat26 If you spend all that time doing research it does.
@@oladeebiazazi4538 of course you wouldn’t give specific examples.
As an older black American, this video gives me hope for the future of the black community, fantastic young black American men. Not look at yourselves as victims.
well said, as a white democrat conservative, I must say these men give me hope for the future of America
@@jamesdavidson3259 Democrat conservative?
You either don't exist, or are older than penicillin.
I am so happy you did not African American. That is just another phrase from Race Hustler's. We are all Americans no matter the pigment god blessed us with.
Worst thing you can do. Democrat party wants to keep blacks victims. As a white American it’s plain to see what’s happening. Get away from Democrats as fast as you can.
Preach!!!!!
It’s very refreshing to see young men have healthy conversations about society and questioning what they know and does it hinder or help them grow. Continue to strive for better.
As a white male and an ex combat veteran, these men remind me of some of my friends I served with. They worked hard, stood for their beliefs, color was never a thing for us. I appreciate men who are smart enough to weed through todays BS, and understand they can decide their own path…. I love that kind of power. Strong men=Strong results.
Ex combat veteran? So you once were and now you are no longer a combat veteran? Never heard of someone describe themselves as that before.
@@guitarplayincowboy he still a veteran but he “ ex combat”
@Yuko Trey still doesn't make sense. I am a combat veteran. I will always be a veteran who has been in combat.
The Democrat party try to mask control with concern. They want to keep the black people down . Democrats were carpet baggers after the Civil War. They have always wanted to keep those of EVERY RACE poor and dependent. TMO
@@Jiminy-trxas a is a good signal that they’ve never interacted with anyone other than their own. Lol now we need more black people to drop to their knees and make them feel welcome
I'm from Brazil and always get scared when I noticed people in US do not know about Thomas Sowell. For me, one of the greatest minds in US, still alive. It's never too late!!!
Lmao
You would like enjoy the book Up From Salvery It is a good read.
This is because what black american culture has become over the years. The youth have been groomed to idolize black Hollywood, gangsters, rappers and athletes. Every single one of these groups are the armpit of black America..uneducated , clueless and promote the worst things imaginable without caring one bit they are role models to the youth. It’s got to a point where political parties pay these “famous” blacks for them to promote their party and the kids will follow without a clue of what’s actually going on. It’s not their fault technically because it starts at home. 70% of these kids grow up in single home families , usually w no father and as they say, u don’t find a father at home u find him on the street ….
Thomas is someone many blacks call Uncle Tom because they think He acts white !!! He don’t act white. He don’t talk white!!! He acts and talks like an intelligent black man to me that cares for his people. He’s going against the grain trying to force a change … people like him help start groups like cartierfamily and officer Tatum … god bless them all
Your culture is American. Don’t look up to people who are only black. Look up to people who offer knowledge and wisdom regardless of their skin color.
If you consider the ideas of someone only because they’re the same skin color as you, then you’re already setting yourself up to never grow as a person.
“Judge someone not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”
-Martin Luther King Jr
Well said. You guys are the future keep opening your minds to all races. We are all human beings, all with rights that all should stand up for. Good going guys.
Yep... Black americans are americans... White americans are americans... Anglo American to be clear (and some others such as french as probably this guys are)
... Actually in folkoric terms, banjo comes from Africa and guitar (used in blues) is european roots
Sowell is 92. He won’t be physically with us someday, but his mind and words will be here as long as people want to learn. All his ideas are explained so well in his books and they’re not hard to read and understand. I love him!
100% agree. I think it's funny that they call him "Thomas So-Ell" 😆
He will be shilling for his corporate masters from the grave I am sure.
Yeah, Thomas Sowell is one of the few people lucky enough who will live past his time on this earth, through people's memory and his work he leaves behind. I hope he feels content with all he's done.
92 but he listed heart issues for the reason that he divorced his wife and broke up his family.
48 year old Black Man chiming in. These type of conversations are great to see from young Black men. Proud of yall. This excites me. ✊🏿
We need more honest conversations like this. Not the race baiting that fills the media and politics. Government and the wealthy prosper as they divide us.
from a white guy, I agree. 100
@@JustChasingWaterfalls totally agree. The entire concept of race was created to divide us and it has been working since Bacons Rebellion of 1676
Love this!
I only understood what Thomas Sowell said, I'm having trouble understanding these young black men.
Mr. Thomas Sowell has some great and profound messages for us all. He speaks power to the truth and facts, he is not wrong.
HES A SELLOUT OVERALL.. BUT HE ALSO DOES MAKE GOOD FACTUAL POINTS.. BUT OTHER MORE PRO BLACKS COVER THIS AND MORE.. SOWELL IS JUST A PAID PUPPET OF MILTON FRIEDMAN..
This guy in the white baseball cap gets it loud and clear. Glad you’re involved in these conversations and making people think.
Yeah, he’s the best
He most often does
@@coldspring624 "white cap " shows strong leadership traits as an alpha male.I hope he comes to the attention of a smart mentor.
He's my favourite. He's very focussed.
Yeah that guy's intelligence always stands out to me, in every single video I've seen from them.
I’m a white guy that grew up in a black neighborhood. As I got older I started to see that there was always toxic aspects to the culture I was surrounded by, ie. a clear Idolization of criminals and cheating in romantic relationships. I saw many of the brightest kids I grew up with throw their futures away to act thug so other black kids wouldn’t think less of them. Ya know, Everyone does stupid shit to try to fit in as a kid, but when fitting in means actions that cause real harm to your life and the lives of those around you it’s an issue.
Yup, even other culture has sub-cultures as well. Chinese mainland and Chinese oversea are total different, then Chinese from Taiwan is different as well. If you listen to Chinese mainland, they will tell you to hate Japan, hate US and worship Mao.
Similarly I have seen Vietnamese group that keep swearing at everything while another group very polite.
Many children growing up, they need to blend in to certain groups and overtime, they become similar to that group because they don't want to stand out.
The culture we are surrounded with as we grow up has a huge influence. I am from London and in the UK right now white working-class boys have the worst educational outcomes, worse than Black British boys, worse than Nigerian immigrant boys (who usually do really well as Nigerian parents are notoriously strict and expect high grades), worse than all other males in other groups. This is because the white working class in the UK has devalued education and emphasized other ways to show masculinity for generations.
The class system in the UK, especially a few generations ago made it impossible for a working-class man to get a good education or rise in society so the expectations are just not there. Alternative ways have been adopted to achieve status. The cultural problems go down the generations. Racism definitely exists but the family who raises you and the environment you are surrounded by have a much greater impact. The UK currently has a Prime Minister of Indian descent and plenty of ministers in top positions who are from various immigrant nations. Their skin color and racial background didn’t hold them back, usually because they have a strong family who have high expectations. People rise or lower themselves to the expectations set for them a lot of the time. The answers are never simple but it’s very hard to resist the negative pressures from your peers if you don’t have strong role models protecting you, usually parents.
@@viviennedunbar3374 yes, cultural influence plays such a huge part, I think the majority of racism we see in the US towards African-Americans stems from current black culture’s influence on the black community, where as if you look back to black culture in America during the early 1900s it featured stronger community and family values, values that would see black communities doing better in many metrics than their white counterparts, and unfortunately values that have fallen by the wayside as time has gone on, which I believe leads to most of our current issues.
@@Dedskees What would explain the far worse racism toward those black communities back in the early 1900s? Racism is what drives racism. Racist white people are racist against black people because they look for negative examples that feed into the stereotypes they already have. They look at anything negative that any dark-skinned person does and use it to perpetuate their narrative that black culture is criminal culture. They don’t see people as individuals. There are countless white criminals, but these white racists (who are far more common than people seem to think) can classify those people as outside the white culture, when they don’t offer the same courtesy to anyone that doesn’t look like them. What’s white culture? What’s black culture? Any definition you create only defines your preconceived notions.
Thanks for your comment a certain group seems to think another group is the problem in the black community but the things you Named are the exact cause of the effects of glorifying gang and drug culture and pimp culture
As a 72 year old white woman, I really live your take on this. When I think of black culture, I remember Motown and how they dressed, how great the music was, I think of Jazz and Blues and how your culture has influenced our music and in turn, my memories of my youth. Thomas Sowell is a treasure to everyone and we are all made better by his wisdom and insight.
I'm a Cuban born man in my 50s and if there one thing that black people should be proud of their culture is the musical influence on all other genre of music and I'm not talking rap but blues , jazz , grass , Motown as well as dances.✌
@@joserivero2416 yep real music from the heart and soul reflecting the spectrum of human condition.....
My mom says that. Back when they made real music. They r using rappers to indoctrinate black people to destroy themselves and the culture is totally disrupted
All that music is a combination of white and black culture. Music is not owned by one culture.
I love motown I'm 60 and motown has been a big influence musically to me. I love music any kind of music just as long that it's grovin.
The real black culture is beautiful … it’s unfortunate that is almost gone.. the faith, the moral, the compassion, the generosity., etc, etc .. ❤ I’m a recipient of it .. magical.
What’s the real black culture? Cause culture is about where you’re from not your race. Every black person doesn’t have the same culture…
@@queenofnyc5584 culture is not something you create to identify you per say, its all the intellectual discoveries, inventions and art and innovations done collectively which describes one culture. That is every culture in a nut shell. Culture is not where you are from. The way you think of culture is a simplistic way of seeing it and is sold as the truth when it's not.
What is real black culture in your opinion!
If You are young you may not understand… I’m so grateful the good Lord put them in my life..
I moved to another country with my family and we had to get used to another accent and another culture. We decided to take on those mannerisms that were an improvement to ours but hang on to those parts of our accent that make communication clearer and easier to understand. Part of our instict is to keep on learning about ourselves and others for our whole lives. Even as whites among other whites, we don't always feel accepted or understood but we don't have to change completely. Just gradually learn to live and let live. It's so cool that you have heroes you can look up to and learn from. We all need them.
Thomas Sowell is an American treasure. Glad to see more people finally listening.
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And Lebron is a race hustler
@@skylanh4319 And Brett Favre is a welfare fraud
CNN will never put him on their network.
Is it a coincedence only white Democrats were blaming themselves?
A wise man once told me "once you see the truth you can't unsee it". I'm glad to see young men like y'all searching for truth.
So true. Once I saw it I am unable to unsee it. It’s annoying sometimes. Be watching a movie and I can see the undertones and half time people are telling me to just shut up. It’s hard to slip back into ignorance once you see it. Btw I don’t think ignorance is bliss
Not many of our people know of Thomas Sowell. He’s a brilliant man who understands the black experience. I’ve never heard his name mentioned during black history month. But he should be. I applaud these gentlemen for taking the time to dissect this interview. You give me hope for your generation.
Sowell rants against affirmative action while having gotten into Harvard based on affirmative action. He rails against welfare while having had the state pay for both his original career in the military and then paid for his education at Harvard.
The problem of course is not Sowell any more than it is with any 'intellectual', the problem is the governments that listen to them and the lack of lobbyists.
He constantly talks about the necessity of higher education, although lately what gets shown is the stuff where he tirades against colleges like the one that educated HIM. Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society. You will be cleaning up behind somebody or serving somebody the rest of your days.
But his remarks about education get lost in the mix. Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. The massive bloated bureaucracy he complains about, and yet NO liberal argues for bureaucracy, but for the same thing. A society that makes sure each person can live up to their potential, and help them out when they can't.
THOSE things get lost in the mix and instead are non ending conversations about political correctness and terminology. Thats the mark of not living in a democracy, people play NO part in the actual decision making, so you need to pretend that they are playing a part by endless pontificating.
@@mikearchibald744 Where is the evidence that he got into Harvard based on affirmative action?
"Welfare" =/= "government paying for stuff". "Welfare" = "government paying for stuff while you give nothing in return". Him being in the military was a trade. He signed a contract that stated that he would do X and the government in return would do Y. "Welfare" is only one way.
"against colleges like the one that educated HIM"
Gee, it's almost like those institutions have changed since he was in them.
"Without education you don't even stand a CHANCE in a modern technologically advanced society."
I mean, that was true a millenia ago. The problem is that people seem to think that the only route to "education" is through the university system.
"Likewise he thinks that the welfare state should be replaced with a Guaranteed Income Supplement, this is something MOST people accept-its called 'old age security' and social security. "
Where has he argued for such? Nevermind that social security is essentially a racket, whereby the money you supposedly "put in" is not worth the same when you are able to "take out".
@@mikearchibald744 You are so ignorant it’s unbelievable. He graduated years before affirmative action was even put in PLACE
@@groerulesyourface Affirmative action was used since before world war 2, it was a method to get education to people who didn't access it before.
The GI Bill was a form of affirmative action where soldiers were put into college without having the requisite high school diplomas or marks.
But congratulations, thats the typical level of Sowell fan, to start a debate with "your so ignorant". He'd be so proud.
@@cstgraphpads2091 He was a soldier with only middling marks as he admitted. He got into Harvard, you do the math.
Welfare is government doing shit IT DOESN"T NEED TO DO. A military is exactly that, in every war soldiers are brought on board and quickly trained and sent to war. There are countries with almost no military, one of which is now been fighting a major power for a year without one, and there are militaries that are essentially not in use, like Switzerland or Norway.
So thats the welfare state. Soldiers are trained for jobs that for the most part don't exist and WON"T exist, unless the state puts them into action, thats why early american libertarians were even against STATE rights becaues they said permanent militaries are the first sign of the welfare state.
Just becaues a country keeps starting wars doesn't change that fact, actually it proves it.
So what you call 'productive' is irrelevant. A single mother raising a child to YOU might not be 'productive', which is ironic because conservatives complain so much that women should at least be able to stay home with the children. But if there is no husband, suddenly that function is 'not productive'.
Sowell keeps on about these MOSTLY fictional 'just lazy people' who are supposedly collecting welfare while doing nothing, ironically the society has no problem using government to throw money at the owners of Raytheon, the owners of which have NEVER done any work for decades.
NOW the value of education is WAY beyond what it was in the past. The surest way to stay in poverty is to only have a high school education. You think you are going to be a doctor or engineer by saying "hey, I've read all the textbooks in my spare time at home". Good luck with that.
You can learn a TRADE without college, but that puts you at the mercy of that trade and essentially dictates where you can live. I know tons of welders, great skill to have but there are no jobs in it here.
I see you don't really get the gist of social security, the money you get out is WAY more than the money you put in, just like an RRSP in an institution is way more than what you put in, thats the whole point. Without social security the country would be a full on third world country.
Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson are a couple of role models to emulate. Plus it would be beneficial not to separate by race or anything else All men are created equal 🇺🇸
Agreed, God made everyone in his image.
No he didn’t. Don’t be ignorant. Let go of the fairytales.
Sowell is, Carson is not.
ur sounding like an idiot. Those 2 blacks are insulting the rest.
More conversations like this are exactly what our country needs.
Yeah, more talking....🤣
Exactly, complex problems of society require clear and level-headed exploration, mutual respect, based on facts, full disclosure of any bias, honesty, and completely devoid of emotional manipulation or mob-rule. We can not allow the least mature people to dominate simply because they yell loudest.
This is about bull sh.t European culture embodies genocide of Native American people along with theft of their land and valuable resources. Many of the early settlers were slaveholders who beat raped and murdered many of their slaves with no legal recourse. After slavery ended many black Americans who were regarded citizens were still subjected to laws and customs of this country that denied them their rights with indignant treatment. Again European culture is the culture of rape murder and theft to gain their semblance of success. After slavery white culture endured people such as Billy the Kid and Jesse James who were murderers and robbers. After the crime wave of the post Civil War period white culture led to the rise of organized crime dominated by immigrant Irish Italians and Jews and others. We all have heard of the MOB and corrupt judges and politicians who represented a lawless culture. Thomas Sowell’s head is in the sand. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are not race hustlers but advocates who are addressing issues to improve the lives of black Americans.
Redlining exists along with disinvestment in black communities such as real estate owned by black Americans being assessed lower than their white counterparts. The justice system is designed to harm blacks more than whites. This list goes on and on!!
@@stryfetc1471 Yes talking helps a lot especially when it comes to our problems and differences.
@Nikolas Hanks no, action helps....talking is just talking.
PLEASE do more Thomas Sowell!
Thomas Sowell should be taught in every school. This man knows so much. It is a shame he doesn't get the chance to get the attention and rewards he deserves. There is more than just this. I would suggest reading his books, and watching other interviews.
I have Basic Economics. It's amazing. I took Economics in college but I never understood it the way I do now since reading that book. He explains things in such realistic ways that are so easy to understand and uses real life examples for his theories. He is such an amazing teacher.
@@staceykudera8558 ye such an amazing teacher. so easy to understand. doesnt use big wordsor facts. just spouts unproven dangerous untrue therios.
hes an absolute shit.
ignore sowell.
better yet research the heck out of sowell.
see for yourself.
PLEASE do less Sowell. hes an idiot. yes a very well spoken idiot. but still an idiot.
We would be living in a different & better world today if they taught his philosophy
@@b.entranceperium he learned his philosophy from Milton Friedman, who is responsible for the shit state the economy has been in since Reagan. cycles of boom and bust with massive wealth inequality is what he is a proponent of. make no mistake... he is a conservative propagandist and nothing he says holds any actual merit in the real world.
As a half White half Aboriginal Man form Western Australia, all I can say is "Keep Questioning your current culture". Take what is positive, throw away the rest. Never blame. Keep climbing. You men are inspiring, truly. Thank you.
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Super important. The deification of culture the concept is a death trap. Culture is a consequence of how you live. Don't pay attention to it, don't go out of your way to preserve it. Let it be a consequence, not an end goal. The GOAL is living well.
What is this blame argument so you would not accept reperations from the Australian government if offered or are you insinuating that what happened was acceptable!
this was great. especially when thomas sowell said the way for a young black man to succeed was the same as for anyone - "equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for". perfectly put, and i'm pleased it was well received by the participants here. liked & sub'd
You can have the same qualifications as your Caucasian counterparts in Silicon Valley if you’re African American. They don’t hire African Americans here. The brown people that work here are from India. The companies have for years refused to disclose their hiring lists or percentages
@@mariaroyal1691 That is not true.
So what. Move on. @@mariaroyal1691
@@mariaroyal1691if that’s the the true, that’s interesting because California is a blue state which means it’s the democrats that are being racists despite all their race baiting
That is not true at all, if anything people of color have more chances than whites thanks to jobs exclusively for people of color@@mariaroyal1691
The dude in the white hat is on top of his shit. We are products of our environment and I’m glad to see you guys stepping out of that “if you’re black you have to be ghetto” mentality. I’ve told many of my friends the same thing growing up. Much respect fellas.
"We are products of our environment" ? Only until you become adult and you choose not to be a product anymore.
@@slatebook2384 exactly my point. Just as I did. But yes being raised in one situation or another can determine the type of mind set an individual can have. You grow up in the country around deer hunting all the time odds are you’re going to love deer hunting as a result. Pretty simple.
@@odyesus9893 Indeed. We have a choice between being a bad person or a good one. What amazed me is that since the 70' bad ones are praised/admired/supported in movies, music, arts, politics and in all western countries.
Agreed. 29:28-29:50 is very true and applicable to ANYONE encountering another race especially if you have little experience with that race your interacting with imo.
He gets it
It’s wonderful to see young, intelligent individuals discussing real issues. That’s how we all grow. Forget “culture,” don’t let anyone define you.
And let's not define other people either. It breaks my heart every time I hear black men refer to black women as less than human. Black women are talented humans, not b*ches.
Same goes for black men, they're not ninjas, they're our brothers.
We are Americans!!
Yes, discussing real issues helps people grow. They stopped the video now and again and went into the ideas. But then, when they started the video back, there was silence as they were glued to the idea of learning more. You can see how their focus was intense. They were 100% invested in learning more. To challenge what they had been told to believe. Agree, disagree, disregard, it didn't matter. These guys became involved. That is truly wonderful.
@@iamthechangemaker Amen.
@Lol okay Wow. Yeah, that’s depressing. What a shame, given the inherent power of our technologies to promote good; it seems like the opposite is what happens all the time. I feel like the entities responsible for promoting violent and antisocial ideas in hip hop hate black people and hate humanity. Black Americans have contributed so much to the world that is beautiful and life-giving and eminently worthy of respect and praise, yet raunchy, violent rap has probably been promoted and spread out to the world much more than their other, truly awesome contributions.
I'm a white 60 year old woman and I am proud to see you guys progressing further in life with learning and sharing your discussions and thoughts..ideas. kudos 👏
It has always been there. Our voicea have been suppressed, to a degree. The media has restricted the intelligent and promoted the buffoonery.
Thomas Sowell is an absolute legend. Highly respected and highly intelligent. Warms my heart to hear you young men listening to someone that has been a mentor to so many.
I've listen to many of his informal lectures and from the first time I heard him I was in awe at his level of wisedom. Too many people have high IQs in academia to memorize highly manipulated information derived from echo chambers, but no wisedom. This is why their so-called "experts" are often so horribly wrong in their predictions. Worse, it is incredibly dangerous, because unlike Professor Sowell, typical academia buys into the absolute fallacy that basic human nature can be altered (even worse, they think it can be altered through theory alone today!) No matter how hard someone tries, one can not erradicate selfishness, greed, envy, and so on, from human nature. When it is tried, it ALWAYS ends in utter disaster. This is where Prof. Sowell steps in and would say, we can't alter human nature, but we know when people have freedom, stability, and hope, they are more likely to be happier, better people, and act as good role models. Thus the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness with boundaries ending where another's freedom begins, to which this is enforced though consent of the very people who enjoy those rights. Professor Sowell understood this well, which is why is really was an incredible man.
@@echo-channel77 agreed. I remember seeing Thomas Sowell on television when I was a little girl. My parents were watching something where a panel of people were having discussion. I remember they were really bickering and angry except for Thomas Sowell. He was the only one who made sense and gave his responses in a calm articulate demeanor.. I didn't know who he was at the time but he really stuck out as a voice of reason to me. Later as I got older I found out who he was. Brilliant man and a true gentleman.
lol nah
He’s a right-wing hack who makes his money by pushing black America under the bus.
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I've respected Thomas Sowell for many years. I wish I could meet him someday. Good Man
Those young men are an educator’s dream: they are listening, then listening again if they aren’t sure about hearing something correctly, looking up what they don’t know, processing what they’re hearing and talking about if they agree or disagree and why, and relating it to their own experiences. Keep being awesome, guys! Great to hear what you have to say.
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This is great to see because college campuses across the US no longer allow these discussions, free thinking or debate to occur and disagreement is not allowed. They created “safe spaces” for those offended. Its ridiculous and does nothing to benefit our youth
They still need a lot of work. But education aint helping by lying to them about "dey culture" They all think they INVENTED JAZZ or PEANUT BUTTER. If they're learned from people like Sowell instead of liberal LIARS, they'd learn a lot more and probably would be outraged about all the lies.
@@reneechavez9866 isn’t university meant to be the one place you meant to debate and have intellectual warfare all these creating safe places is creating a society that is the most sensitive insensitive generation of that makes sense we ain’t allowed to have our own opinion anymore we forced to go along with all these new agendas they pushing heavy
@@reneechavez9866 I'm guessing you couldn't get into college.
I am a 73 year old white, suburban, conservative, retired, New York metro college professor. I taught business and economics for over forty years and Thomas Sowell was my favorite economist during that entire period. I have watched many of your reaction videos and I always find them interesting and informative. What I love about The CF group is that you are teaching and learning at the same time. Please keep it up by being yourselves. I really like your different points of view and your different communication styles. I have subscribed and will continue to tune into your reaction productions. Thanks,
That’s right, I’m going to keep it up being myself. We are the most talked about race of people on the entire planet, Blacks in America. Black people this, Black people that. But I always look at the group of clowns criticizing our people. I say well, from what I see? All races have mess in it. For mr. Sowell to criticize Jesse, Al and other leaders, but they have helped out more than him. I have no respect for Mr. Sowell, all talk and I see no action. This need to be done and that, but just write a book, that benefit him, but Jesse and Al can’t reap benefits. LMAO Peace, much love. S/o to my people in the hood, some of you have more values than them
@@yo3rdtier128So basically you support 2 grifters that have single handedly done more harm than good...got it.
Where are they when it's B on B crime?
Where are they when B women are aborting their babies?
Where are they when fathers leave the home?
Where are they when mothers have 5 children with different fathers?
Why is it they only show up when the W race is involved?
Why don't they talk about crime against Asians?
You know the reason just as we all do...there's no money in it.
@@yo3rdtier128 You really don't get it. You're another lost soul that's been brainwashed into believing the bullshit being forced upon you. Try educating yourself about true facts and not blindly believing what your leaders have told you to believe.
@@yo3rdtier128 FACTS!!! Thank you, I couldn't agree more. I've always understood why white people are drawn to Sowell, a sort of blessing from an older man of color that tells them that theirs no more inequality or systemic racism in this country, so it's ok to be happy with the status quo and continue acting like everything is fine. What I don't get is how many of the younger generation of black folks seem to really support what Sowell has to say. Last I checked Sowell was a brilliant economist, when did he start becoming the expert on American history and black culture?
@@sunshynff where exactly is this sistemic racism?
From a native Canadian. These conversations brings me hope. Keep these going guys!
Hearing from real people is miles better than dealing with traditional media, thanks guys
Beautifully stated.
Hear hear!
"Equip yourself with skills that people are willing to pay for"..., Love it
~ And that's it... So simple!!!
That’s a man who lives in reality.
So refreshing to see young black Americans having fun and discussing important political matters that are really prevelant in our country and lives. Thank y’all!
I’m a white Christian conservative male. I’ve been watching Thomas Sowell for over a decade, love this man and consider him a brilliant mentor to anyone who will listen to him. I would vote for him for president over absolutely anybody in the world. Thomas Sowell is a great man and a genius.
Thomas Sowell's narrow point of view supports your narrow point of view, that doesn't make it right.
Well then your an idiot. you have been listening to him for over a decade? and you have never bothered to do any actual research to see if he is telling the truth.
spoiler alert! hes not.
"Sowell’s arguments are, in the main, sophomoric in construction and ideologically resistant to intervention from the real world. Despite his bluster about Evidence and Facts that purportedly come to knock down the house of left economic and racial ideas, Sowell is unique even among the conservatives he’s usually cited with for his immunity to real knowledge and his social-scientific sophistry.
Given the gargantuan volume of Sowell’s popular writing, I’m going to need to focus on the central cluster of claims Sowell is known for. This is essentially aggregated from a variety of Sowell’s work, since much of it is repetitive-the primary books I’m addressing are Discrimination and Disparities and Black Rednecks, White Liberals, combined with the vast expanse of Sowell video interviews and clips available on the Internet. I’ve broken down what I see to be this central cluster into its constitutive claims in order to deal with them in sequence:
1.Disparities do not prove discrimination, particularly pertaining to Black-White economic inequality in the US.
2.Black Americans, especially the worst-off living in urban centers, have a “redneck” culture that was handed to them by White southerners via Britain. It is this culture which produces bad behavioral patterns, such as crime and single parenthood.
3. These behavioral patterns are exacerbated by the interventions of the welfare state.
4. It is these behavioral patterns from the combination of culture and welfare that lead to Black-White economic inequality.
5. Black people are blameworthy for their inequality-producing behavior.
Each of these claims, as well as the argument as a whole, are riddled with problems of argumentative logic and empirical evidence. In many cases even just one of them would tank the entire enterprise; the sum of all of them is utterly damning."
Dr Vosburg, PHD, Ohio State University.
@@heathwirt8919What are you talking about?
@@Watjalukinat they don’t know,they came to troll and that’s it.
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You wouldn't have said that asinine comment had he said he was a "Black Conservative". Just be honest and cut the bs.
Asking "What is our culture" is exactly the trap - you're not a slave to a culture. Make up your own culture, steal the best pieces from other cultures, or don't even lock yourself to some kind of cultural identity at all. Like Bruce Lee said, style is a prison.
@Kobe Iron "Never go looking for someone to tell you what you should be or who you are."
Yes indeed!
Our creator gives us the one and only chance to be ourselves every moment. The more we renounce the opportunity, the further we drift from our own divinity.
@@kjaze You do realise by being religious you are doing exactly what your advocating against right? The entire point of religion is to tell you what you should be or who you are for the sake of controlling you. You are of course free to be that way (unless you live in a country where you are not, in which case I pity you), but do be aware of that basic fact at the same time.
So true, culture is a fluid concept that is always changing. It changes on the society and the individual level.
@@Ishlacorrin Fear of the divine over fear of men. There is a difference.
@@Ishlacorrin dude... no
Old white guy here. I didn't grow up in or near a ghetto. But the brilliance of Thomas Sowell is immediately apparent to anyone who listens to him or reads his books. I believe that America is yearning to be free of racism. Powerful forces continue to divide us in many ways. Visionaries like Sowell are needed.
Id say there is a part of America that yearns to be free of racism, but unfortunately there are still too many of those who live their lives by only seein race and holds onto that victim mentality. This is a diverse issue, so many things to tackle.
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Yes, it's easy to say there's people who do not want racial peace. However, just because you get say cut off in traffic by someone of a different race. Racism? Nah. Probably a "jerk", could have an emergency but most likely just a bu**hole. They come in all colors and persuasions.
@@jennaeveliina313 It could be solved very, very simply: any time someone tells you that something is because of your race, ignore them. They don't want you to succeed, they want you miserable in failure.
Like them.
There is still a considerable amount of racism in America. We still have a long way to go.
I'm so glad you guys loved him! You guys were talking about "not being able to fix anything because it's too far gone" ... you're helping to fix it now! Keep doing exactly what you're doing. Help others become aware. Not only black people but everyone because everyone has challenges and barriers that need overcome and awareness is the first step. You guys are on the right path! So proud of all of you! ❤ Not everyone, regardless of culture or race, seeks truth like you guys are!
That's what I was saying, & they need to continue listening to him on the far right!
That dude is going to go somewhere!
Thomas Sowell is a moron. dont fall for it
@@NeilLewis77
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😊Lol
It is particular members of the white race that are vehemently and even violently at school board meetings,
NOT seeking the truth.
Why aren't you asking them, as young Black men to help make particular
white
people
aware
of their misperceptions about the intellectual differences between races?
@@YaHUKaB_ShaRYAL_YaShaRAL Discrimination and Disparities
Sowell is correct that intentional racial discrimination (according to Sowell’s classification, Discrimination 1b and 2) at a given juncture - say, racial discrimination by an employer - cannot fully explain Black-White racial disparities in economic outcomes. It does not follow, however, that therefore the remaining racial disparity not explained by acute racial discrimination is not caused by racism in society. Sowell concludes that, for instance, employers and realtors and bankers will make choices about hiring or real estate or loans based on the relevant qualities the individual brings to the table, such as education, credit scores, criminal or eviction history, and so on (this is what he calls Discrimination 1a). People have differences in the quantity and quality of these they can bring to the table, and thus it is perfectly reasonable to find inequalities in economic outcomes.
What is not answered by this, however, is why these inequalities would be unevenly distributed by race. It’s certainly not a realtor’s fault that there is a Black-White disparity in credit score, but that difference is not a natural fact of the universe. I and most other social scientists believe that there is inherited inequality from the entire history of American social life that at least in part accounts for why the distribution of these sorts of things are unequal by race. The literature on inherited racial inequalities in sociology, economics, and history is simply massive and cannot be hand-waved away. As it stands, Sowell’s argument on this point is hopelessly endogenous.
This argument is also wrapped up with the claim that any government intervention intended to reduce disparities will result in unintended consequences that will most likely make things worse for the people you’re trying to help. This is, in the terms of Albert Hirschman, the “perversity thesis” - the common conservative argument that whatever change you want to implement in society will actually do the opposite of what you want it to do. The reason why this rhetorical move has power is because it seems intuitively true, and sometimes policies do have consequences of this kind. But it simply does not logically follow from the example that some such policies backfired that any such policy inevitably will.
It's refreshing to hear these young black men listening and reflecting on Thomas Sowell's knowledge. I am seeing the future YOUNG THOMAS SOWELLS IN THE MAKING. The future is Bright for the Blacks Future leaders of America.
These young men are not buying into the stereotypes…They are defining their own place in this world! YOU ARE KILLING IT💕 From your biggest Canadian Fan supporter/fan 🇨🇦
Beg to differ. Thomas Sowell has been so overused on TH-cam .
@@paulhester489 obviously not used enough if these guys never heard of him...
How? Throw mire light, please?
@@paulhester489 Thomas Sowell is overused because there aren't enough big names that can say this shit, back it up, and get away with it because they can't get stamped with the "racist" label by woke dipshits
@@ErdTirdMans Dr William Darity, Dr Glen Horne, check them out.
I applaud you brothers for talking about Thomas Sowell. He's a brilliant mind that has been kept out of media for so long because he speaks against the narrative.
I’m a white man and I’m proud to see these 5 in this video being analytical, honest and based with this conversation. I as a white man have seen a lot of ignorance in these discussions because people don’t want to talk the truth. Especially in front of a white man…We need more people like these 5 because being analytical, based and honest is the first steps for improvement. If you ignore all this then how are you meant to know why and how to remove the problems…Great video, keep doing what you’re doing👏
@@Who-cu9eu Me, too. I am bawling my eyes out! This is beautiful. I love these young men.
Congratulations guys for discovering Mr. Sowell. I am a 62 yr old American woman , with Mexican heritage and I absolutely LOVE Mr. Sowell! He is such a treasure of knowledge, wisdom and many other virtues.
62 yo white woman. I have been enjoying him since I was old enough to read his columns in the newspaper (10?). He's wonderful.
Do you know if In the Hispanic community do we have a Sowell
@@jesusmartinez4094 sowell is just another ideologue, not very different from friedman or hayek or marxists
@Jesus A. Martinez yes, the author of We Wanted Workers, Jorge Borges. He discusses how illegal Immigration hurts Blacks and Latinos while enriching the wealthy and powerful and enslaving the illegal aliens. Great question, btw.
@@juana7035 wow got it will buy soon… thank you
Thank God for Thomas Sowell. He is a true intellect.
I'm an older white man an i watch you guys a lot. I enjoy your perspective on things. And we all can learn a lot from our history. Knowledge is power. Have a nice day.
I'm a white European man, only ever been to US a couple of times. I grew up quite interested in hip hop culture but then started distaining aspects of it as I grew older. At some point of my life, I thought I am racist. The reason is because I started disliking a lot of black people I met, to a point where I realized It's wrong to dislike someone because of their skin colour and didn't want to feel that way but I couldn't help it. Over time I have realized It had nothing to do with skin colour at all. It had to do with this culture of violence, greed, narcissism, etc. I hate it in all people but through social conditioning I actually subconsciously believed that is black culture. Part of my realization came when I met several African immigrants who were a bit older and I found them absolutely amazing, virtuous, kind and intelligent.
i dislike most black people ive met. probably 90% of them. but i never disliked them before I met them. gave them their chance without prejudice. I am not racist. but at the same time i dislike 90% of the people i meet after i meet them. maybe im just a hater.
@@christoff124 I can relate to that, a few years ago I thought I was a misogynist, but now I've come to the realisation that I don't hate women, I hate people.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738 wise behavior.
The greed and narcissism is what gets me the most. Folks in this culture will burn down everything and everyone around them for their own self interests, then complain that they can't catch a break.
@@johnnyjohn-johnson7738ya it’s simple just don’t make judgement on people based on anything other than someone’s character. Just like MLK said. You realize most people suck and it’s just a reflection of society at large. People suck and it has nothing to do with anything other than the content of their character.
Hip Hop culture, AKA Gangsta rap, has absolutely DESTROYED the black community. I love the discussions you are having. And... The Shaq is a FAR GREATER role model for young men than LeBron ever thought about being. He's an amazing human being.
That's because Shaq engages in a tremendous amount of self hate and cooning. Meanwhile, James is likely to critique the white power structure and demand societal changes. One is happy he's made it and praises his overlords, the other isn't happy with simply making it alone.
Crazy take. Stands up for what he believes in, no father growing up, has the work ethic and grind to keep himself at the top of his craft regardless of age, very involved in his children’s lives, married his high school sweetheart, no real scandals that I’m aware of…? On top of the fact that he created a school for underprivileged kids and helps put them through college. You may not agree with some of his political takes (totally valid), but to shrink his accomplishments and to declare him a poor role model is just factually incorrect. Not his biggest fan but ludicrous to paint him in a negative light due to personal biases.
LeBron has to be probably one of the most level headed NBA players in the game right now, and has been for a long time. How anybody could even think LeBron isn't a good role model is actually insane.
@@ryanbeatbox People who push imaginary white jesus and lean to the right politically don't like his approach on social matters.
It has nothing to do with his personality and/or "work ethic". I'm sure he worked hard to get where he is. I have ZERO problems with that. But he's a racist. He literally HATES white people. Not only that, but his big time sponsors use slave labor to make shoes that they sell for ridiculously high prices. Shaq refuses to have his name attached to any shoe that costs ridiculous amounts of money, and he goes around and plays ball with the kids in bad neighborhoods, reminding them to get a good education and stay out of trouble. He puts his money where his mouth is, not JUST for the black communities, but for ALL people, regardless of skin color. THAT is my reasoning. He's just an all-around better human. *shrugs* take from that what you will.
I started Thomas Sowell with his Basic Economics (he explained the whole economics without a single math beautifully), and then now I am into his fourth book. That man is a treasure ❤
Unfortunately, most black people will vehemently disagree with you. Apparently being told truth and knowledge is a bad thing 🤷♂️.
@@kyletangen9446 Cognitive dissonance is a bitch. It's what kept me firmly in the religious camp for so long. You just have to separate yourself from the people who believe the same stuff you do for a few years, and you'll be accidentally exposed to new ideas. If you don't, your friends and family will quickly dissuade you from straying from the flock, usually with some very poor reasoning.
I’m going to go look up his Basic Economics course!! Thank you!!
You young men are brilliant. You are the future of the black community. Don’t under estimate the power you have. Change starts with you.
I totally agree. White liberals are perpetuating all of this. They are making race relations worse. I am a 54 year old white consevative woman and am telling you that anybody white or black can accomplish anything they want with good education, character, and morals. Don't let liberals tear us apart. When I grew up, we didn't think about the color of a person's skin. Some of my best friends were black. Great people , but the liberals are putting this racism into the heads of the younger generation as a way to tear us apart. As a way to keep everyday people down, white and black. It is a way for the rich liberals in politics and society to keep us all down. So that the rich famous people have all of the control. In reality, it is the rich and powerful against the poor and middle class. Which is what Trump was fighting for. Please, people, wake up. Our country is being destroyed!
LMAO @mickiaal7689 Seriously? Brilliant??? hahahahahahahh
@@TravisTennies bruv chill. being actually normal minded in current time is rare... so it's kinda brilliant...
OH sweetie they were just sitting around waiting for you to say so. Now you got your virtue signal gastank filled up, you can go act like an ass to them IRL.
Not buying into the division the powers that be are sowing@@TravisTennies
I have so much respect for Thomas Sowell. A true American patriot.
An American Patriot is found in the blood of a person and the thoughts of their mind.
Ikr?!!!!
Slow down
That he said was stupid when he said in thr 40s he didn't hear Gun shots when bumpy and his gang were running harlem there were plenty of murders the difference is that
1 it wasn't the crack era and with the crack era more guns were put in our neighborhoods because the government put them there
AND 2!
GUNS WEREBT AS ACCESABLE AS THEY ARE TODAY!
and wen he speaks of words that black people use today like "ain't and y'all" were also used by rich white men then black people started using it and white pple were saying it wasn't proper fast forward now these words are in the English dictionary
@@Grip9od the black mafia wasn’t shooting random people or killing kids by accident…do some homework just because you have a gun doesn’t mean you kill people…
From a veteran. Some of the most important leaders and relationships in my life have been from persons who are black. Also, you fellas are showing what black culture is right here. It's easily recognizable, you're diplomatic, thinking freely, speaking freely, open minded, compassionate, empathetic, tolerant, and intelligent. For my brothers who are black that I served with. You are brave warriors, disciplined, patriotic, inspirational, selfless, godly, charismatic, and noble. They got me through some of the most real struggles this world can throw at men. Nothing but love and respect.
These round table discussions you guys do says black culture is alive, healthy, and prospering in you guys.
As a white guy that's only culture was christian. I was raised in southern california, i had more brown and black friends then white being where i was raised. one of my greatest memories growing up was hanging out at my black friends Antwon and Ricardo, trying to write songs like Kayce and Jojo. when their moms would come home from work she was so kind, she would treat her kids so well and showed me an example of real love. From an outside perspective, i think black culture in America is love and understanding. When I went to a black church i felt no nervousness, i felt completely accepted. When i was at Antwon and Ricardos house, their mom treated me like one of her own sons....I dont know black culture, but i did experience the love. One Love.
What you experienced is not majority black american culture.
as a brazilian what i see about black culture is just self destruction on this big cities, in brazil you only see black people doing this kind of stuff in rio de janeiro and são paulo, in the rest of the country everyone is the same depending on the region, if you are from the northeast you will act like you are from there it does not matter if you are white,black or mixed, when CNN came to brazil and started doing this race shit everyone mocked then and they stopped doing that. they were like " a young black man doing this and that" people were like what the fuck? why it matter if he is black? now they just say a young man... they don't put race on the news anymore because media in brazil don't do that.
Christian not a culture but I get what you’re saying
@@oladeebiazazi4538it’s a way of life/relationship with Christ (Yashua) 🤝🏾🙂
I'm 60 and white and have read about 12 books written by Thomas Sowell. He's one of my favorite people on the planet. Highly educated to say the least and brilliant. Backs up everything he says. He's been around since the 70's where he debated all kinds of people. Hope he outlives me, the world needs more people like Mr. Sowell. I love the objective dialogue of these young men, these are the future movers and shakers.
Only white people like Thomas Sowell!
Thomas Sowell is one of your favorite people on the planet? Maybe you can tell what some of his contributions are to the fields of economics or law are - both supposedly his specialties - because I don't think he actually has any work that's considered to be serious, must-read material by the actual academic research community in either category of study.
But as a white guy, I can see very clearly how he's beloved by white conservative/libertarian boomers for his anti-interventionist, anti-regulatory, anti-union, and anti-political correctness takes. All of which seem shoddy at best.
Looks like we disagree on some things. Have a good day.
@@johnbows2555 Let me guess. You're an "academic".
@@Rich32262 Looks like we'll never resolve our disagreements on those things.
Thomas Sowell has the greatest quote of all time - "There are no solutions, only trade offs"
He has some of the greatest quotes of all time.
Such a great video guys. I am an 80 year old white woman who had watched that Sowell interview so wanted to see your reaction to what he stated. I am pleased to see your responses. I think a lot of what he said was to make sure the people you follow, black/white/etc. are worth listening to. So much all of us hear today is either right/left thinking.Fill your mind with the truth and you will not go wrong.
This is one of the best conversations I've ever seen play out in almost real time. You guys are thinkers. It's evident. Sowell would be proud.
I disagree. They need to STOP talking over each other. That is disrespectful. Same as LEFT...'THE VIEW'. Annoying. One at a time.
LMAO, they have a 20 words vocabulary, not much thinking out there!
@@Crystal-yn9qb It doesn't matter where you start as long as you try to learn and educate yourself.
This conversation actually gives me hope for the future of younger generations of young Black men. There needs to be more of this type of conversation to wake our people up from the nightmare Black Culture has become in the last 20+ years.
You really think it's much different today than it was back then? Define black culture?
@@sunshynff At 42 I've seen it go from "Stop the violence", "Self Destruction", "Say no to drugs" to become the exact opposite in our communities. Growing up in the projects was not looked at as something to brag about. Going to jail was not something that young Black youth looked at as a badge of honor. We believed that education was the key to success, not glorifying ignorant and ratchet behavior. Yes there absolutely is a problem with Black culture today. Somewhere down the line we stopped upholding the standards and dignity we once had that our elders tried so desperately to instill in us. We used to joke about "Bebe's kids" not knowing the whole culture would shift around it.
@@akiraxtreme ...Im not saying there isn't a problem within the black and brown community, I just hate seeing it being called culture. Culture with any lighter skin tone almost always relates to sophistication, (having) class, suave but you put culture and black together, and you're not at an African heritage festival or a social justice meeting, it automatically has a negative connotation. It's another way for the ruling class to marginalize a group, "other" them, convince the poorest whites, they're still better than those animals over there, it's in their culture, they can't control themselves.
The other extremely dangerous aspect of chalking up the problems in black and brown communities to simply culture, is that if it becomes more commonplace or a full blown narrative, it makes it easier for authoritarian leaders or those who do not have the citizens best interest in mind, start to dehumanize that group who's "culture" can't be helped, make it easier for certain groups to feel superior. Then it's just a short jump, if those leaders want to do harm or acts of violence enacted on that group by those that feel superior, because you've dehumanized them in their eyes. I know that sound a little over dramatic, but it's a slow burn we really need to look out for in this day and age.
I'm exactly 10yrs older than you, and while I didn't grow up in the hood, I wasn't in no gated community either, lower middle class blue collar family and neighborhood, I was lucky to have a really great dad, who was socially conscious, and just one of the kindest people I've ever known, I knew we were slightly poor, but my dad never let me and my sister forget our privilege, not the word he used, but let us know there's people out there struggling a hell of lot more than us. So I started paying attention to what I could at relatively young, like college age, young 20s, and for a long time in my late 40s, I really thought kids were worse today, things went down hill, but I really think that's because we look at our youth with so much nostalgia, every generation does.
Damn I rambled like an old fool at a Sunday BBQ, here's the thing, I have found in life, when there is polarizing issue, whether it be personal thing in your life, or a social issue, neither side of the argument is rarely 100% right, the truth usually lies somewhere near the middle. I think it's ok to say there is a decent amount of the black and brown community, especially the young adults, that need a fire lit under they ass, and quit blaming everything and everyone, take some responsibility for ones own actions, and start being an example to follow, and lift themselves and communities up. While at the same time recognizing how far behind the 8ball systemic racism and oppression has put people of color in this country. I think both can exists at the same time. And if we can except that, then people can burn less energy deciding which side of the issue is to blame more, and start putting more energy into fixing the issue, regardless of the cause.
IDK, sorry I rambled, just my thoughts on it, props for responding intelligently and respectfully, been getting a lot of negativity for disagreeing with Sowell, it was nice to head into the weekend on a civil and positive note. Have a good weekend.
Start following other black conservatives on social media and TH-cam. You do realize that conservatives are Republican? In the beginning of the video they read from Wikipedia that he was democrat, which is incorrect. Democrats are liberals. Conservatives are Republicans.
@@MPerry-ox9qb the thing is that as I get older the more I realize that I have things I'm conservative about and things that I'm liberal about. In all honesty I hate leaning heavy towards being either a Democratic or Republican. I'd rather use my own moral compass on subject matters in an unbiased manner.
It's nice to see young black men using Thomas Sowell for their platform.
It's like I'm witnessing real black culture; civil, intelligent, free-thinking with morals.
These guys should have thier own prime time tv show broadcasted into as many homes as possible. Pres Obama should have had these guys in his cabinet.
A great experiment would be to relocate a whole black community in any city, then repopulate it with blacks that think like you guys and see the results in 10 years. I bet it would really be a eye opener for the whole country.
I just wish they'd stop calling thomas a Democrat. He's a free market libertarian. They definitely got me following them now. In 1972 Thomas registered as independent.
Condescending to black people.
I am latino from Central America and I grew up in New Orleans and I have several family members who are black. I want to cry when I see the guetto films on youtube about how the black youth is growing up and behaving, no future is what I see, just self destruction. It is with great pleasure and it is very human worthy to see a group of young black men sitting down and discussing real life problems that have been going on for decades in the black community. I always ask myself "where are the Malcom X`s of today?, WHERE??? It is up to you guys to start a beacon of knowledge and spread it amongs your community for a better life which you deserve...Salutations from Barcelona.
As a White man, raised in Calgary, Alberta, it pains me deeply to see what is happening in our culture today. My best friend since I was 17, I moved to the US to live with mum to graduate, I met a Black guy. We became friends and actually best friends. I learned so many Life Lessons from this friend that they really are too many to name. He went through a lot of grief having a White friend I know. Gang influence and the resultant crime is tearing this country apart. He was also the best damn harp player that I ever heard, I play guitar. He was the God Father of my daughter, the best man at my wedding...... He died a few years ago, there isn't a day that goes by that I don't mourn some more.
As an 81 year old white man reared in segregated south, I must say this is the best , by far, conversation ever on yourtube. These young men present a better generation than their predecesors. Just love to see men using such common sense interpreting real life in this country. I hope they can spread their viewpoint to the other colored men in their generation . Makes me really feel like their is hope for this country after all. Thank you gentlemen for sharing this video for all the world to see. Please continue spreading your message. Also , Thomas Sowell is a true american treasure (patriot) for us all to study and implement his common sense views. Have a great day and continue with your passion in presenting a positive cultural change for your and future generation.
As a white guy, I love this discussion and you guys are inspiring. I found you because I follow Thomas Sowell and love and admire his work. He is never mean and never bombastic or condescending, but man he is a full-blown genius. I think your group will change many thousands of lives for the better if you keep doing these videos in this incredibly humble way. Thrashing things out in a group is so effective in sending a positive message.
Not a single 4th of July celebration has made me feel as patriotic and proud of American culture than watching these men openly conversing over this philosophical question. These videos are a real pulse of what people actually think. These discussions y'all are having is so important.
The world NEEDS more conversations like this among young black Americans. This was incredible to listen to and brings so much perspective to things. Loved this video. ❤
I would say we need these conversations with all people. Very well meaning willing to learn and see other perspectives, and free thinking.
I also think it would do young white Americans some good to watch, listen and seriously discuss these issues too. They may be the newest "victims" in our society because of the pervasive and persuasive mentality that's being pushed in the public schools, social media and power-hungry politicians and their shills. It's fracturing our society, particularly in the young adult age group, and I think the cultural elites with all the money and power like George Soros and his foundation are behind all of this.
I’m a white guy.
I grew up primarily in my younger years in south Florida. A large population of people from Haiti, Jamaica, Cuba all through my neighborhood.
In the 1980s we all got along. People went to church together, school, the beach, etc. It wasn’t like it is today. Everyone getting offended by everything.
I’m definitely subscribing. Keep up the great work.
I remember as well. I thought things were supposed to get better, not worse.
@Transformers are coming for your kids: Maybe, sometimes, things need to get worse to get better? I don't know, just a thought.
We were on it in the 80’s.
It's wonderful that you guys listened to such a national treasure as Thomas Sowell. This man must be remembered and celebrated AND emulated!
Too bad they think he is a Democrat .
@@michaeljohnson6976 Too bad he thinks the answer lies with republicans. Nothing could be wrong further from the truth.
@@cagnazzo82 you're brainwashed, Republicans are better people all around.
Bill was hardly regulated! Still debated 'til late: the date & day when Dave did cave & played tones of rave to grave stones, all day, about his debut stated: highly anticipated!
This fella Ted once had a whole cellar cellulated... from fear of getting constipated... if fishiing with rod: my lure is baited.
Dude did vomit from worrie his nephew fainted! by accident he painted he saw when two furries mated!
*I'm sry about my medication...
@@michaeljohnson6976 There is only one thing we know for certain about Thomas Sowell's political leanings and that is: he is 100% conservative, but he could be a conservative democrat (like Joe Manchin - who stated emphatically that he is not - nor ever was - a liberal) - or he could be a conservative Republican - like you or me. Did he specifically say his party affiliation is Republican? I haven't seen evidence of that anywhere. All I know is that liberal and far left democrats do not like him.
Dr. Ben Carson and Thomas Sowell are great representatives of the black culture.
As the white father of two black sons that has seen racism from both sides the fact that you 5 are even taking a look at all of this is a great step in the right direction. I wish each of you the best and keep of watching and researching tremendous people like Mr Sowell.
your sons are mixed, not black
@@firstnamelastname42069 they are adopted but thanks for making sure I understood biology.
@@firstnamelastname42069 No, he's a cuck.
You’ve never wondered why Sowell following is overwhelmingly white conservative? You know; the same people defending the confederate flag talking about "this is about heritage" ?
@@MrBillsfishingreat comment 😂
As a white American male, I enjoyed the input of all five of you young men. Great content! Thomas Sowell has been a personal hero to me for years. My children are well aware that they may get a diploma, but they have not graduated by my standards until they have read and known Dr. Thomas Sowell. I was taught growing up; That culture was the expression of values. So even a rapper that expresses the positive values that you feel are important, deserves to be listened to. Any behavior whether it's speech, food, art, dress ect that expresses the values you collectively share, becomes culture. Does that sound about right? I could be over simplifying it.
Again, thank you for sharing your content. You've given me hope that my sons will be become men in an America where black and white are united like yen and yang. I hope my sons reach your age and have friends that come together like you men have.
I love your sentence, "culture is the expression of values". That is so true. Well said!
You only love Thomas because he regurgitates white supremacist talking points his reparation views are false
Thomas Sowell, selling out for his white fan base, one day at a time lol.
Conservatives love Thomas Sowell because he confirms all their opinions.
@@a.m928 and liberals love JB bc they are just as lost as he is!
Sowell is an inspiration to any human being regardless of background , We need more of him as he is a national treasure .
I'd rather listen to Christopher Hitchens and Neil degrasse Tyson.
@@catwrangler7907 won't listen to anything Tyson has to say as he is a huge vaccine pusher and with a the evidence of it all being a big scam and showing him to be 100% wrong , he has no credibility.
@@alanvancleave1068 and Christopher Hitchens ?
@@catwrangler7907 Christopher Hitchens is perfect exactly where he's at today, where he always should of been. A miserable, raging, indignantly self-righteous, self-flagulating oyster that loved the smell of his own farts. Neil is a not as smart as he thinks he is wokester. Sowell is a way underappreciated intellectual. The fact you can't tell the difference tells me all I need to know about you, disciple of lies.
@@Jointknight you can take Kanye, Candice owens, Ben Carson, Herman cain, diamond and silk, alveda king, darrell scot and all those tap dancers with your uncle Thomas
I'm a 63 year old white man from the south, got to say I've got mad respect from these young men!!!
“You equip yourself with skills, people are willing to pay for.” My late father taught us that and it works🤷🏽♀️👍🏽❤
smart man
Dr. Sowell is a national treasure. I wish he could live to 125, and I love seeing young, thoughtful fellows like you guys sitting down and listening to this great man.
Absolutely!!
Man, I am so glad you’re finally came across this guy… he’ll change your whole outlook on almost everything you’ve ever been told
yes if you believe his lies you will be convinced that racism isnt a problem.
but ask these young black men how they feel around the police and you will soon see that Sowell is talking crap.
Man this is one of the best youtube videos I have seen. Just people grappling with new ideas in an environment where they feel comfortable expressing themselves. Love it.
Im neither black nor white..im from india...i love this episode so much...after countless videos from alleged experts..vid like this from the common man is like a breath of fresh air! Keep fighting guys💪💪
Amazing how a single video from Sowell can have people rethinking their culture. The open-mindedness and willingness to learn is awesome.
yes but they should follow it up with research. is Sowell telling the truth? is he speaking facts.
lets check.......
no. no he isnt.
he has ignored all the main facts to pretend that racism isnt a problem.
it really truly is.
and people pretending racism isnt a problem. is a big problem.
@@NeilLewis77 what do you claim Sowell is fabricating? A lot of the things he said seems rational.
While i do agree racism is a problem, i disagree that it is as big a problem as society makes it out to be today. People use racism as a trump card rather than an accurate depiction of the problem.
@@actuallyken8874 yes it all seems rational.
untill you do some actual research.
just read one paper by an actual PHD and you will see the problems with Sowell.
@@actuallyken8874 im sorry, you "disagree that racism is as bad as society makes out".
thats just something racist people say.
thats good old fashioned racism mate.
saying to black people "what you moanin for, it used to be worse than this" is something racist white americans have been saying for a very very long time.
if your diminishing someone elses problems then your just adding to the problem.
@@NeilLewis77 nobody said existing is easy and nobody should pretend it is. Everyone has problems and things to overcome. It depends on if you are willing to overcome those grievances or be paralyzed by them in fear. There are millions of things we can become with our individual feeedoms. We have long since abandoned the idea that our skin tone depicts our outcome and that has been proven false for decades. It is our actions that people see now. It is the culture and ideals we choose to express that depict our interactions in society.
You gentlemen are the reason I'm proud to be an American. You keep the lights on, you are looking at the right stuff.
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I absolutely love the genuine debating amongst yourselves. This is literally how it's done. People getting together and discusing controversial subjects to the point that all sides can listen and understand and communicate their opinions without being ridiculed. 🎉 you all are amazing...and entertaining..keep up the great work
My apologies for not knowing names, but the young man in the white hat is brilliant! He gets it!
Idolize and emulate individuals like Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Dr. King and Frederick Douglas, as well as the countless other brilliant and successful black leaders throughout history that are much too often dismissed or ignored!
Thank you for allowing us to be part of the raw and honest discussions after the videos. You guys give this old man so much hope for the future that I've worked for and dreamed of my entire life! Love you guys!
AGREE
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i agree.im so proud of these young men for seeking truth.and looking for broader horizons.we are all living on the same planet.how about we evolve? and grow together.
yeah, the man with the white hat gets it. They live in America, they're not African Americans in truth, they're just Americans that originate from Africa generations ago and happen to be black.
They do have culture, it's not the ghetto crap, they have the music and arts from their racial history in US, but also the general American culture- celebrating thanksgiving, Halloween etc. Might sound stupid but I'd even say steaks and burgers are part of American culture.
It's a huge country so there will be subcultures that have their own traditions. America is a mixing pot of various cultures, whatever unites and brings people together in a peaceful way is culture.
i agree , except for Clarence Thomas. Not a good role model.
I grew up in the 60s, in a "ghetto" in DC, attended all black schools straight through high school. The culture we had was work hard, keep your nose clean, respect your elders, and most importantly, the knowledge that you had to be twice as good as your white counterpart once you went out into the "world" just to have a chance at an opportunity. Failure meant not just disappointing your parents but others in the neighborhood as well. Everyone I grew up with had that same experience. The teachers we had in those all black schools were the best, and they drilled into us not only the basics, e.g. how to read and write, understanding mathematics, history, etc. But also civics and our responsibilities as citizens. That was the black culture I knew. We knew of the subculture Sowell is talking about, but it was the exception and not the rule for black people, at least at that time. Ghetto culture is said to be "black" culture, as if all blacks are somehow bound to or steeped in that culture, and its simply not true. Yes, there were some back then who were, as the old folks used to say "no 'count" but we didn't hear gun shots either, and by and large people were for the most part striving to get ahead. I know of many doctors, lawyers, engineers and others who came out of what Sowell and others would call the black ghetto, because the culture we had was one hard work and excellence. That's HISTORICAL black culture.
Amazing what the race hustlers have done. The mindset shift after the "Great Society" and the resulting downward spiral is infuriating.
@foundationssofmusickkk5488dc and pg county actually had the largest black middle and upper class in the country back in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. There were also a lot of poor black people here obviously, but no, not every black neighborhood was a “ghetto”
This vlog should be on tv. Good stuff.
Hard work and excellence is American culture it’s not just black culture. Even that is racist thinking and we’ve got to stop it. I was raised with the same values you were obviously raised with and I’m white. People of all colors have those same values of working hard, respecting your elders, etc. but when people say “now that’s black culture” then you’re excluding everyone else and separating yourself as a separate culture a separate group of people which is wrong. We are all Americans with a shared American culture and that includes people in history of all colors whether it be Harriet Tubman, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King Jr., George Washington, Booker T. Washington, John Quincy Adams, etc. Everyone who has come before us is our shared history and our shared culture. We are not separate people because of our skin color and need to stop falling into that mentality, it’s a trap that helps no one and hurts everyone.
@@anjoleeeickhoff6800 When black folk have to hear day in and day out, to this day, that negative "ghetto" culture is somehow black culture, that "all of us" need to "not be like that," as if we all are, that's what needs to stop. When we as black people say our culture is one of excellence it isn't excluding anyone but a logical response to those of you who insist on pushing destructive stereotypes about what is and isn't black culture. There is absolutely nothing racist about black people saying ours is a culture of excellence, especially when in fact it is true, and when it is delivered to counter the continuing racist narratives about how "all black people are." As a white person you should be able to accept others declaring what's great about their own culture without getting into your feelings and automatically seeing it as somehow an attack on white people. The life experience in the US of Harriet Tubman who was not even allowed to be a US citizen for most of her life, and that of John Quincy Adams is far different and pretending there were no differences does a disservice to the real history and yes, culture of America. Like it or not, America IS a multicultural society, and that's what makes this country great. There is no one, homogenous culture, and its ridiculous to expect that when people come here from so many other countries, bringing their culture with them. I can't even imagine what this country would be like were the rule "check your culture at the door" and (try to) homogenize with a dominant group that supports a political party whose success rides on division. Non white Americans have contributed so much to this country that is taken for granted. To say to them/us that we cannot declare the excellence of our own culture, and be proud of it, lest we somehow qualify it with the experiences of white people, is racist. Americans need to learn to live and let live, accept, respect and embrace other cultures for what they are and stop trying to whitewash the differences in culture away out of fear.
Sowell is at peace with himself, unlike many black men I have known. His intelligence is a shield against all of the idiots who want to portray everything through race and hatred. His understanding of real History and human nature is refreshing to hear from anyone, not just a black intellectual. At 71 years of age, I don't have the patience to waste time on morons who populate the internet. I will always take a couple of minutes to listen to this man. You're never too old to learn from a great source of wisdom. Wisdom is rare nowadays.
I love this conversation; we have the dominant black culture and various subcultures within the black community. We need to denounce the current dominance of hip-hop and the armful of negativity and elevate the positive ones. It
I'm a young white girl from Denmark, where we have such little diversity because of our population of only 5,5 mil and also historic background, it's hard sometimes to fully understand the level of cultural and ethnic diversity and challenges people face everyday in fx the US. It's has really been an educational journey for me for many years to learn about the racial issues you have in the US that we often read and hear about in the news. I just want to say thank you all for your great reaction and debate on this topic, you all have such great points and thoughts, it's really an important conversation to have. I truly hope and wants to believe things will be better in the US one day in regards to the way people are treating each other based on race and differences, and that so many people and families have to suffer each day. Hi from Denmark 👋🏻
You really should watch both Carl Benjamins, Sargon of Akkad and Thomas Sowell’s break down on slavery. They’re the most honest of all. They’re not long but they’ll teach you more than you thought possible.
@@cececox6399 thank you, I will look into that!
You got room for a redneck from Vidalia, Georgia? Lol
Yes, and its unfortunate that you've probably been ''educated'' in very anti-european progressive western narrative when it comes to interracial politics in north america.... western academia loves to demonize whites in north america for thing like slavery, while completely ignoring the entirety of world history. The truth is diversity isnt always the greatest, infact its never worked in history, the north america is the only place to have ever had even marginal success. European countries should NOT be so open to large groups of minorities, white europeans have a right to their homeland the same as every other group, sych as the asians, africans, jews, arabs... north amercia in the mixing pot and will remain, but do not think for two seconds that diversity is some higher ideal. it is not, and in many cases causes significant issues..
What Cece Cox said. A lot of what you see in mainstream news especially heavily pushed by extreme liberals/ extreme progressives and far left political viewers, are not absolute truths. Thomas Sowell goes into depths about the truth in his books and in interviews.
The discussion you guys have here together is emblematic of how everyone should behave in society today: learning from a respected expert like Sowell and then having a civil, thoughtful discussion about important matters like history, identity, and culture in a way that elevates everyone in the room. Fantastic. Never stop thinking and questioning, this country needs people like you.
Yes, as a 57 year old Mama, I love this discussion from you guys. These moments are so necessary and important.
I discovered Thomas Sowell in highschool because my teacher at the time had told our class that he was a colonized white washed black man who is actively destroying the black community. My curiosity led me to read up on his biography and books. I learned about his life and accomplishments and it made me so angry because this “teacher” was indoctrinating not educating his students. Since then I’ve made it a point to be objective mainly because I grew up in the Bay Area, California which today is as Far Left as you can get. Being a free thinking individual is dangerous these days because it’s a threat to narrow minded authoritarians who are afraid of different ideas. That’s the culture we live in today. That’s the real pandemic. Your videos give me hope for a future that currently looks bleak.
i left the bay area a couple years ago and have never looked back. Its my home, but in the last 6 or 7 years its gotten really bad. Just like you said; Narrow minded authoritarians are the real pandemic.
You should get out of California, you're welcome in Oklahoma
You will receive more education through your own life experiences and also doing your own research. this Rockefeller educational system was never about educating the population it's about creating generation upon generation of ill informed population of workers.
@History's Mysteries Unveiled ©️ I second this. Oklahoma is amazing! Our houses are amazingly affordable. A 300k house here is close to 1 million in California. Plenty of work, and you can spark up a conversation with anyone! Oklahoma City has the closest thing to popular events, and Tulsa is the easiest city to navigate. Low gas prices, low electricity prices, all around awesome. Sure we have lots of tornadoes 🌪 but long as your home doesn't have wheels, you're fine! Lol.
Amen! Shake the disease