Made my own friction savor from 3/4" flexduit and a couple of flexduit splices (cut one splice off and smooth the cut...makes a nice end for rope to pass thru). Make a bunch cheaply.
Didn't work out in the white pines so I ordered 2 Dan House 30" sleeves. The huge poplar 🌳 I was only able 2to get a throwline up 32' & the big crotch was 5' higher. I climbed up & double tethered myself until I was @ the right angle to toss a throwball a few feet with paracord over the big crotch. The sleeve worked perfect lengthwise & the angle climbing the 🌳 is ideal. This is a close range killing tree. 2 weeks ago a landlocked pregnant doe chased 2 bucks right on top of me & I was able to get over a minute of video undetected @ 10 yards. My other spot is a killing 🌳 white oak that needed a sleeve & it had huge vines & dead branches I had to remove. The sleeve worked equally well in that 🌳. The promo code was no longer available last week. Thanks for the help & tips since there is a way to get into the 🌳 even if it isn't always quick & easy.
What destroys a rope is heat in the Blake's hitch if you descend fast. It can literally melt and glaze the rope. My rope is 3vyears old and I climb often. Its still.like new. I inspect my rope immediately after every climb so I know it's in good condition next time I climb. A rope can become damaged by foriegn metal in tree . However if you don't run into that I expect to get 3-5 years out of my rope. But when in doubt change it out. Never climb on something you are questioning.
I can't find this type of friction saver anywhere. The only ones I can find are Ring style. Would Ring style be too complicated to bring into a hunting situation?
They are noisy unless you stealth stripped the rings . You could make one out of 3/4 plastic sealtight . You know a seal tight whip electrical connection for outdoor use. Its basicly the same thing
Scott, I have a tree I really want to hunt but the crotch is tight. The paracord loop goes okay but the climbing ropes tends to hang up. Do you suggest using one of these? The plan would be to set it in with paracord and leave it there. Do you anticipate any difficulties in have the paracord loop to climbing line connection feeding through? I have the platinum rope for SRT.
Great video! I know I had asked about this on different video. Can't remember if it was this account or another. Either way I appreciate you guys taking the time to address friction savers.
Just wanted to thank you guys for posting such informative videos! I just got my predator rope in the mail and started my first climb using DRT yesterday, soo easy! couldn't have better teachers! Thanks guys! Keep up the great vids!
I have a few huge white pines on public land in a couple of nice spots. Getting a throw line in them is tough. I was able to get a couple in back in late March. I bought a Herbol friction saver from WesSpur for these setups. The 4' length for doing a girth hitch up. I climbed the 🌳 & tethered myself to the 🌳 just below where I was going to put the preset for the Herbol. Then I put the Herbol over the branch I used to climb up with my rope & a branch on the other side of the 🌳 to use it as a girth hitch. I made sure to put the paracord over those branches since it leaves the heavy strap over both branches parallel to the ground. The rings are about 5 inches apart since the 🌳 30' up is not much smaller than @ the base. U would need to set this up for an afternoon hunt & leave the Herbol up there if u planned to come back to hunt it in the morning. I wouldn't recommend leaving it up any longer than that. It works pretty slick & is very quiet.
What do you guys think of just using some tubular webbing instead of buying a friction saver? Has it been tried? I make a lot of webbing products, so I may try it out.
I actually just bought a ring to ring. I'm gonna test ways to make it more quiet. Maybe electrical tape. Maybe I'll end up getting a tube style for hunting. I've gotten into recreational climbing since I started watching this so thanks for that! Lol
why don't you guys show us how you get the rope up with the "SCOUTING" ropes you guys said you set up pre season ? I think you need to explain how you use that rope to set up quickly
Hey Joe, it must be awesome having a hunting buddy that's so knowledgeable in the tree climbing arena........Hey Scott, you wanna come hunt in Southern Illinois this coming season? I could use the knowledge!!....lol. You can come to Joey! Another great video guys!! Keep em coming!
Made my own friction savor from 3/4" flexduit and a couple of flexduit splices (cut one splice off and smooth the cut...makes a nice end for rope to pass thru). Make a bunch cheaply.
Scott & I where just talking about this the other day
I bought an 18" friction saver and love it! So much easier. Thanks guys again! Go in light, come out heavy!
Didn't work out in the white pines so I ordered 2 Dan House 30" sleeves. The huge poplar 🌳 I was only able 2to get a throwline up 32' & the big crotch was 5' higher. I climbed up & double tethered myself until I was @ the right angle to toss a throwball a few feet with paracord over the big crotch. The sleeve worked perfect lengthwise & the angle climbing the 🌳 is ideal. This is a close range killing tree. 2 weeks ago a landlocked pregnant doe chased 2 bucks right on top of me & I was able to get over a minute of video undetected @ 10 yards. My other spot is a killing 🌳 white oak that needed a sleeve & it had huge vines & dead branches I had to remove. The sleeve worked equally well in that 🌳. The promo code was no longer available last week. Thanks for the help & tips since there is a way to get into the 🌳 even if it isn't always quick & easy.
awesome , just what I needed!
Thanks! Does going around the tree without the tube ruin the predator rope? How long should we expect a rope to last without a tube?
What destroys a rope is heat in the Blake's hitch if you descend fast. It can literally melt and glaze the rope. My rope is 3vyears old and I climb often. Its still.like new. I inspect my rope immediately after every climb so I know it's in good condition next time I climb. A rope can become damaged by foriegn metal in tree . However if you don't run into that I expect to get 3-5 years out of my rope. But when in doubt change it out. Never climb on something you are questioning.
Thanks guys. I am new to DRT and was wondering how to deal with pine trees.
great job.
I can't find this type of friction saver anywhere. The only ones I can find are Ring style. Would Ring style be too complicated to bring into a hunting situation?
They are noisy unless you stealth stripped the rings . You could make one out of 3/4 plastic sealtight . You know a seal tight whip electrical connection for outdoor use. Its basicly the same thing
Scott, I have a tree I really want to hunt but the crotch is tight. The paracord loop goes okay but the climbing ropes tends to hang up. Do you suggest using one of these? The plan would be to set it in with paracord and leave it there. Do you anticipate any difficulties in have the paracord loop to climbing line connection feeding through? I have the platinum rope for SRT.
Most definitely yes. Some crotches are tighter than others (humor intended!). Some bark is rougher than others.
These Dan house savers aren’t on wesspur anymore.
www.treestuff.com/dan-house-rope-sleeve-1/
Give this a try.
@@NYSaddleHunterWhat's the limb diameter rating for 1/2x18" to wrap around safely without kinking? The description only says limbs as small as 6".
Perfect how-to. Answers to my northwest and west coast firs and pines, keep pine pitch off my ropes
Great video! I know I had asked about this on different video. Can't remember if it was this account or another. Either way I appreciate you guys taking the time to address friction savers.
We're can I buy that tube
bishco.com/dan-house-rope-sleeve-1/?sku=13862&gclid=CjwKCAiA1JGRBhBSEiwAxXblwdE0mIuQX8tHE2_0vibTs-Obt_e9Lj3Hm7kKrxbQfyp0Zk_DkRtxzBoCYsMQAvD_BwE
Just wanted to thank you guys for posting such informative videos! I just got my predator rope in the mail and started my first climb using DRT yesterday, soo easy! couldn't have better teachers! Thanks guys! Keep up the great vids!
Thanks and good luck !
I thought the friction saver was protecting the rope
What beats up a rope isnt friction of the limb its the friction in a hitch when decending too fast
I have a few huge white pines on public land in a couple of nice spots. Getting a throw line in them is tough. I was able to get a couple in back in late March. I bought a Herbol friction saver from WesSpur for these setups. The 4' length for doing a girth hitch up. I climbed the 🌳 & tethered myself to the 🌳 just below where I was going to put the preset for the Herbol. Then I put the Herbol over the branch I used to climb up with my rope & a branch on the other side of the 🌳 to use it as a girth hitch. I made sure to put the paracord over those branches since it leaves the heavy strap over both branches parallel to the ground. The rings are about 5 inches apart since the 🌳 30' up is not much smaller than @ the base. U would need to set this up for an afternoon hunt & leave the Herbol up there if u planned to come back to hunt it in the morning. I wouldn't recommend leaving it up any longer than that. It works pretty slick & is very quiet.
What do you guys think of just using some tubular webbing instead of buying a friction saver? Has it been tried? I make a lot of webbing products, so I may try it out.
I actually just bought a ring to ring. I'm gonna test ways to make it more quiet. Maybe electrical tape. Maybe I'll end up getting a tube style for hunting. I've gotten into recreational climbing since I started watching this so thanks for that! Lol
How has that ring system worked out for you? I've been looking at the same setup and then came here to see about finding more info.
Wouldn’t a old piece of garden hose work just fine?
Possibly
Interesting idea
why don't you guys show us how you get the rope up with the "SCOUTING" ropes you guys said you set up pre season ?
I think you need to explain how you use that rope to set up quickly
Is this what you mean th-cam.com/video/g5n8LJ6QA0I/w-d-xo.html
Hey Joe, it must be awesome having a hunting buddy that's so knowledgeable in the tree climbing arena........Hey Scott, you wanna come hunt in Southern Illinois this coming season? I could use the knowledge!!....lol. You can come to Joey! Another great video guys!! Keep em coming!
Couldn't tell if those were Hollywood 😎 or safety 1's.
The leather friction savers make noise every time you move up in a tree.
I was thinking of buying one. Thanks for the comment.
WOO NEW VIDEO! IM SO BORED WITH MY LIFE
Lol
Cool
When you guys are hunting, do you honestly do this all the time?
No this was a request video. We get a few guys who climb in areas with a lot of Conifers .
NY Saddle Hunter obviously its a good idea though , thanks
Eric Follendorf 👍