The Last 1938 Tube Trains on the Isle of Wight
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- The old 1938 Stock Tube Trains that were transferred over to the Island back in the 1990's are being replaced ( by ... newer, older Tube Trains!) so it was time to go for one last ride and soak up the sights and smells, and bumpy ride of the these wonderful old trains.
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2085: *The Last 2009 Stock Tube Train on the Isle of Wight*
Too early for predictions but who knows, maybe even beyond that point.
The recycled D78s will still be running 😂😁
No chance the tax cattle will be culled long before
3021: the last train running on the isle of wight
It would be nice if IoW got 67 stock it’s sad they haven’t
Really good green screen. It almost looks like you've actually been to the Isle of Wight.
thanks Steve! gosh it took a lot of effort in AfterEffect to get the drone shots just right as well .. my animator did a good job though, phew!
The Isle of Wight doesn't exist. It's a conspiracy theory, nothing more.
Plot twist: He is actually been there.
@@conveyor2 The Isle of Wight is our version of Bielefeld
@@geofftech2 They deserve a raise, as they really seem to know their craft. :D
Some of the steam locomotives running on the Island of Wight Steam Railway are YOUNGER (dating from the 1950s) than the 1938 Stock trains.
Mathieu McGuire ...I remember going there late 1950s with my Parents on holiday and travelling on a steam train from Ryde
I noticed that when I saw the builders plate on one of the Ivatt. I don’t know how I hadn’t realised it earlier, I guess that was just what made it click.
This video is so fabulous. Reminds me of My Grandmother who lived on the island and would have used it as a child, prior to immigrating to SA. RIP Evelyn Reed (Somerville) 1928 -2017 💖 RIP Train 1938-2020
I remember the Standard stock running on the line in the 1970's. In fact, what took up 33% of the space at the end of each unit wasn't the motors. It was the switchgear - electrical stuff. The motors were part of the big front traction bogie, requiring the swept-up chassis which in turn meant too little space for passengers above it - which meant they put the noisy switchgear in that compartment. It clattered and flashed, as the trains accelerated, and sometimes the access door (from the front passenger compartment) was left open and swinging, so that anyone with sufficient curiosity (like me) could wander into the switchgear compartment and watch the relays clacking and sparking. Amazingly dangerous: we're dealing with 600 volts DC here! Those were the days!
I doubt very much that the traction current at the Shanklin end of the line was supplied at anything like the nominal 630 Volts used on the London Underground. A long-serving Southern Region railwayman told me that, before the electrical supply at Gatwick Airport was improved, the line voltage there
would drop from 750 Volts to around 500 Volts at busy times.
i remember steam
I've always loved the Isle of Wight - the ambiance is lovely. So sad I can't travel back there at the moment. Really enjoyed this content
I'm going there next Friday.
old train island
Following discussions with an SWR representative on the Isle of Wight, we wish to urge people to stay home, stay safe and to not travel to the Island. We are disappointed that we will not be able to give the Class 483 fleet the send off it deserves, but the safety of the amazing Island Line staff, Island residents and ourselves must take priority. We are therefore urging enthusiasts to stay away from Island Line for now and during the final weekend. SWR have suggested that they may take on the idea of streaming parts of that final weekend using their own Island-based staff.
Stay safe, everyone, and hopefully we can all enjoy riding on 483006 and 483007 at their preservation homes in the future.
Geoff needs to pin this!
Good job they aren't all my scraped at least.
I would like to see people do everything they can to get there. Bet most routes are cut off now.
@@meh276 I wasn't intending on encouraging it. But it would make it an interesting TV show. How to get there when all routes are cut off?
@@jongmassey Better one Geoff than the four thousand odd people who have watched this video so far.
If you think that's bouncy, the standard stock was even worse.
Really wish I experienced standard stock.
@@-Joethefish- You might get a chance if they finish restoring the one at Acton.
Yeah, I'm keeping a close eye on that and the Q38 projects.
absolutely BRILLIANT - thanks - the shot of it travelling along the pier in the twighlight with its lights on was something else (12:40)
It was a lovely shot, I noticed that, too! The wonders of digital.
This is a very interesting video. I love the maps also
Hi Jaw Tooth. Somewhat surprised.
When are you going to Sodor and cover the trains there?
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He's waiting for permission from the Fat Controller.
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Many thanks for this, Geoff. Every year (up until recently), me and a few friends would go to the Island for a short holiday (much to the relief of our wives!!) and getting to the pier head and riding those trains to Shanklin was a great part & parcel of the holiday. I'll really miss those old girls. Bless `em.
As someone from Slovakia, seeing an 82-year-old train in such condition is absolutely staggering. Where I'm from, trains (or carriages) of quarter the age would never be so likeable by anyone, even train nerds as such.
Oh hey I’m Slovak too
I'm totally not a train person, but when I visited the island these were fantastic. They were so charming with the very comfy seats, woodwork, single glass windows, ... Everybody who got on those trains started to smile and left with a smile. Sad to see them go!
Im slovak too and i relate to ur message.
Does Thameslink being on the tube map mean that we get another Secrets of... and least used station!
Ooh hope so.
Oh yeah
I think someone else did that
@@iowarailfanner1013 someone done a secret history but not secrets off and no one done least used.
I think so but only the least used thameslink station on the map
I used to love sitting in the little pull down chair or old conductors chair when I was a kid my granddad was a train conductor on these then he left and worked at Upminster depot signal box
Some of those were left in when the end compartment was opened up for passengers.
Geoff - I enjoy your videos a lot. One of my neighbours does house clearance and was throwing some interesting stuff into his skip. One is a little booklet called 'HINTS FOR HANDLING DEFECTS ON 1938 TUBE STOCK TRAINS' - Training Pamphlet No.1 - Not For Publication. Do you want it?
Those sunset drone shots of the train on the pier, glowing against the inky water below are some of the most beautiful you've done!
Had no idea the Isle of Wight was so modern to have 1938 trains. What a wonderful place!
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It's official: one Class 483 will be taken over by the LTTG at the Epping Ongar Railway: More information available here: www.lttractiongroup.co.uk/#/
thats nice
Do they plan to fit them with batteries for running on the EOR?
@@MrMe345 Yes
@@EPS_Productions excellent, I'll have to head over to see then when they're ready 😁
I'm so grateful I went over for a last ride on December 19th just before Tier 4 kicked-in across the SE.
R.I.P 1938 stock😢
Happy memories of a childhood holiday in Ventnor when the old steam trains run all the way to that town. Ventnor suffered when Beeching closed that section in 1966. There has been talk of re-opening, but the old Boniface tunnel now houses water pipes and the Wroxall and Ventnor stations were demolished and built-on. Much of the old track bed is now a footpath/trail.
The southernmost end of the Island Line closed itself, in a sense. Every year in the early 1960's 2.5 million people used the train service between Ryde and Shanklin but only 500,000 stayed on for the ride through the mile-long tunnel under St. Boniface Down to Ventnor. British Rail's original plan was to pull out of the Isle of Wight completely, but the parlous state of Ryde Pier (the oldest, and still the longest, in the UK) which couldn't take the weight of a double-decker ;bus, meant that the line between the Pier Head and St. John's Road had to stay open. Meaning, in turn, that there was little point in closing the Ryde to Shanklin section as this was the bit which the holidaymakers mainly used.
If Ventnor was to get it's railway back, there is another, far more complicated and expensive and more prone to delays and far less useful alternative, which is to extend the Isle of Wight Steam Railway to Newport, then re-open the line from Cowes to Ventnor, which if memory serves did not have any obstacles such as a mile long tunnel.
@@mastertrams Ventnor Town/Ventnor West closed in 1952, so there'd be a lot more involved in reclaiming land and relaying track, but yes ... at least there would be no tunnel to deal, as with the old Ventnor site (now a small industrial estate).
THE sunset shots at the end were fantastic.
crazy to think they have been running for 82 years
I can't get my head around the fact it predates WW2!
I just LOVE how travelling at 40mph on them on certain parts of this line feels like they're doing about 100mph !!!
Gonna miss these old trains..... I hope a set ends up at Havenstreet, even if it ends up being dragged between Wootton and Smallbrook !!!!
@@andypreston1524 I think the plan is to send one to Havenstreet, but as a static exhibit.
If you ask me,trains in Singapore,where I live,the first few train models from Japan are slated for decomissioning by 2025,after only 26 years in service.
The only reason why they carried on is because, it's a line of only a few miles.
Really impressive CGI, as you clearly didn't actually go to Wight ;)
thank you! we went to a lot of work to make it look authentic.
Not only did geoff bring a great video, he also brought the rain. R.i.p the old tube train. They will be missed so much
I had the pleasure a couple of times in the summer, they will be missed.
I truely fell in love with the island and am seriously looking into moving there next year. Commuting on the D stock sounds like a bonus.
Same here I remember in the summer coming off the hover craft and crossing the footbridge with my nan and grandad and taking the train through the tunnel and getting off at sand down
Yes they will be missed
Some lovely drone footage in here.
Great vid Geoff!
This is a sad sad day
Interesting story I know a coach refurbisher and he refurbished these for the island line. He said that it really was just what was left over to make them. Hence the strange livery’s. Also that they were really old when refurbished and people were betting they wouldn’t run for 10 or more years. Testament to their workmanship. Also that they are nowhere near the same as they were on the actual tube so it’s not really like it was on the tube.
Nice video Geoff! Have you seen our full narrated Driver's eye view of this line? Filmed on a sunny day in 2011. th-cam.com/video/R6JsQJz9xsQ/w-d-xo.htmlm35s
Despite having never been to England until 2015, 1938 stock was indeed the _first_ LU stock I took, because I went to IoW before having a more extended stay in London. And D Stock was still around in London back then so it was the 3rd LU stock I was on (92 stock being the 2nd)
Oh, and I took the hovercraft to IoW back then.
I was born on the Island and as a schoolboy actually travelled on the Steam trains and can remember when they changed over to the original tube trains. I travelled on these a lot but left the Island in 1981 so I guess I have never travelled on these actual trains. The trams up the pier were running as well as the train when I was a kid and there was the Seagull ballroom at the pier head which had a lot of the sixties bands playing at it. You had a choice between the tram or train to get up the pier although I think if you were getting the ferry (no hydrofoil then) you could get a ticket to Portsmouth or London that included the trains up the pier the ferry journey and the trains on the mainland.
I visited in 2014 and you could still buy tickets that went to London
what horrible weather
It's England. What did you expect.
@@AD-hf1hp very true
It’s mind blowing how long the Class 483 has been in operation. Considering it’s been difficult to maintain these trains because of their age it is no surprise that they are being replaced. They had a good run. They will be missed. Also, you made me chuckle when you mentioned that you didn’t go there on All The Stations, that really takes me back. Good times, good times
I feel you..
Hello
Going to miss this train next Yr when we nob over for a weekend
The Bembridge mentioned here was home to the Bembridge school mentioned in the Mummy ("Bembridge Scholars"). Why does my brain remember this sort of rubbish but not the name of someone I've just met?
I love The Mummy and I've never made that connection with the IoW!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE GETTING WITHDRAWN😢😢😢😢😢💔 my childhood train :( when the underground had a heritage run when I was 2 years old
Some beautiful footage towards the end of the hovercraft and train running along the pier, great stuff.
Living in Portsmouth we always looked forward to the ridiculously outdated 38s on our trips over to IOW. Gonna miss the rather rattly ride to the dinosaur museum.
Two car serie 1938 looks cute. As they will continue to use ex London Underground trains, it won't be matter of time to see the Island line in the Tube map.
In the 2nd Dec issue of Rail the Ryde Depot Manager Ian Butchers is quoted: 'The team will have to upskill dramatically - going away from maintenance with sledgehammers and crowbars and using laptops instead.'
Longevity apart, the 1938 stock was a masterpiece of art deco design. Living in Edinburgh, sadly I won't get to ride one on the Isle of Wight, but hopefully one day on a preserved railway.
apparently epping / ongar are getting one and converting to battery power... for use
Born on the Island and lived in Brading for many years. I remember travelling on the steam trains on the Cowes line. My uncle Vic Davies was a guard on the tube trains when they started. One day the driver pulled out of Brading and left him on the platform so he ran to our house and got my father to drive him to Sandown (at great speed) to catch up with the train. Happy days. Now live near Queenstown New Zealand so it was great to see your video.
Cheers Bob Scott
A terrible joke for you all.
What's brown, steaming, and comes out of cows?
The Isle of Wight Ferry, of course!
I took a ride on this a couple of years ago , brought back memories of my childhood when I visited London to see my grandparents back in the 70s , the bumpy ride and the compressor's whirring away .
Was in the area last October... if I’d known I could have taken a hovercraft to ride 1938 Tube trains I would have.
Last running hovercraft?? I remember the first ones which were being trialled at Stokes Bay in Gosport, in the 1960s when I was in the midst of GCE exams at nearby Bay House school , then Gosport County Grammar!
Those trains one the Epping to Ongar line would be nice. Back home!
So, this line has exclusively used ex-Tube trains after steam was replaced huh...
Never been on them, wish I could have.
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the british apt
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And mw
I've been on them a couple of times, although I'd love to see them stay it is time for an upgrade. They are rickety old things!
I can relate
The closedown of the line from Jan to Easter is reminiscent of the similar closure from 31 Dec 1966 to Easter 1967 for the electrification. There were no runaround facilities at Ryde Pier Head in the last few months of steam, hence the "topping and tailing" of a steam train shown in the video. The line from Ryde to Newport and Cowes had already closed.
Oh no. I like retro trains
Erm,engines? Since when did ELECTRIC trains have those?? But a nice farewell to the '38 stock,they will be missed. A friend and I had a nice holiday on the IOW in September when the weather was perfect. I even had to buy a pair of shorts! Here's to the '38s!
Extension to Ventnor now.
Not really possible, the main blame is the St Bonniface tunnel...
The last time I went on an "Isle of Wight" tube train, they still had the 'Standard Stock' running. It would be in the mid 1980's !! Living here in Blackpool, I never get that end of the country....
Thank you for this Geoff, the end of an era for the '38 stock in public service. Now, at 74 years old, I still have vivid memories clear in my mind of riding these trains on the Bakerloo and Northern lines in 1950-1960's London before moving to King's Lynn in 1963. I loved the noises they made, the compressors, relays, brakes, the sticky doors, wooden interiors, hanging straps, warm incandescent lighting and even the bouncy ride. Hopefully the Epping-Ongar Railway will bring these back into use and preserve memories of bygone times.
I'm working on the railway platforms now in 2021. Upgrading the old platforms.
hold the phone- there is a yellow allegro estate parked above the tunnel!
On holiday in the 90s my Dad described the IOW as a badly run transport museum we got a crew operated service bus (only ever got a Green Line one outside London), the trains were pre war and his hired Ford Sierra looked space age. Great fun.
Two years ago I got to ride them from lake to smallbrook st to island steam railway ever since I have wanted to gobon a ride again but haven't I will miss them although I am getting tsw2 and the dlc for it so
Nostalgia hit hard
Ikr
Yea
Unfortunately, 483009 was scrapped this year, and 483002 had one of its cars sold and the other scrapped
Those last shots of the train and the sunset with your camera and drone were fantastic. Great work Geoff.
Those drone shots, one of the best videos about this train, Your underrated. I Subsrcibed
Absolutely stunning drone footage!
Good to see one final recording of the 1938 stock trains on the Isle of Wight. I did think about going down in earlier December but most of the time it seemed they were running a replacement bus service!
This drone footage tho🤩
I rode on the train around 1975 as an adult. It should have been classed as a fairground ride as it was impossible to stay in your seat. Children must have been flying all over the place.
The Class 483, 1938 to 2020. Rest in peace.
Not really a train person myself, I just enjoy this channel... is there anything else passenger train related in a first world country that was used THAT long?
@@James_489 Sorry?
1938 to 2021!
If it hadn't been for this damn virus I would have loved to have bid farewell to these veterans. A first class video :)
Thanks for braving the appalling weather and continuing to keep the camera rolling in bringing to me all the way in Australia, and the general public, a fascinating and unknown historical story about the tubes trains on the Isle of Wight. Keep up the good work.
I have no idea why occasionally i watch your videos, i am not a train buff, or subscribed to any of your channels, but i do enjoy the odd train journey now and then, and your obvious affection for something most brits absolutely cannot abide (you know, trains, the journey etc), is so sweet and infectious! Plus right now i cannot go too far, what with lockdowns, the covids, old parents who need looking after, your train videos kinda remind me of good times where i went to places without my car, i know it sounds odd but, idk, normality... anyway, happy christmas to you, and maybe one day soon ill sub =) keep it up!
I think you’ve just moved your drone shots up a notch! Cracking captures! 👍
I can confirm that the House of Chilli in Brankstone, near Arreton, have taken delivery of a 1938 2 car unit which will become a cafe. It is currently painted grey, and carries a number of 124.
006 has returned to operation
The iow steam railway is getting one in Easter
Pretty sure it's 007 which has just come out of major overhaul. Also that unit will be going to the steam railway.
@@mattlander9119 that's the rumour
Goodbye 1938 stock, hello refurbished D stock!
I'm also a train enthusiasts from Australia.& I must say the UK also has the best trains in the world aswell.
I loved riding these trains but looking forward to riding the 484s when the island line back up and running but currently it looks like another crossrail at the moment
I can confirm this hasn’t been filmed with a green screen ;P
So, I guess it was a body double
A very cinematic experience, glad the sun came out at the end
probably doesn't occur to most people on this that there on something that went through something as historic as the blitz
The Isle of Wight had it's own fair share of WWII bombing, before the 38 stock got there.
160 bombers attacked the Isle of Wight on 4 May 1942 to try to destroy it's ship-building facilities. A polish ship, called the ORP Błyskawica was in for repairs and helped defend Cowes against the bombing raid.
Great video once again Geoff travelled on the 1938 stock last year standard gauge roller coaster EMU ride - will miss the stock but having travelled 0n the Marsden vale viva rail trains - i expect the island line will enjoy the upgraded service - i hope the track is sorted though and will try t get to the island to travel on the new trains when circumstances allow
It's such a well used service I'm surprised they haven't extended the line to Ventnor and Newport.
Newport Ryde by bus is quicker than train. Ventor needs a bridge - should never have been closed though
currently the old tunnels in Ventnor are being used by Southern water, the old Ventnor terminus is now an industrial estate, the same with Wroxall, the old line is now also a cycle path!
@@EllisKearns I believe that Beeching used the expense of keeping the tunnel open as one of his reasons for killing the line to Ventnor, even though he knew full well that the tunnel would have to be maintained anyway because of the water supply.
There’s meant to be an extension to Newport sometime in the next few years apparently.
@@mrAfarts personally, I cant see where they would put it in newport for it to be more beneficial than the busses, I believe the old newport station is where curry's is now (if you're familiar with the island)
I remember travelling on the 1920s stock years ago, but I’m not sure if I’ve ever been on the 1938 stock.
It’s not just been since electrification that the Isle of Wight has had to make do with second hand stock. In steam days they had to make do with hand-me-downs even then!
Mostly hand-me-downs from the London, Brighton and South Coast Railway, which explains why passengers on the Isle of Wight Steam Railway are entertained by the constant "thud thud thud" of the compressor which powers the Westinghouse Air Brake.
These trains will live on in Train Sim World 2
Amd ts2021 as a dlc i have it
Yes
Don't you mean Train World Simulator 2 ?
@@yerolo nope train sim world 2 it came out just around August this year and I love driving the class 483 on it.
@@theunknownwarrior632 It was a reference to Geoff's recent video where he visited the DTG offices. In the intro he accidently called it Train World Simulator 2 :)
You need to ride the EMR HSTs. They dont have long left too 😪 once they are gone. No more full set HSTs. No more HSTs out of london 🙁
th-cam.com/video/nVT88u4tGR4/w-d-xo.html
483006 was back running today
And I thought the bakerloo and Piccadilly line trains needed replacing-
Wow, those sunset drone shots are incredible. Nice little tribute to the 38s.
It's bouncy because the track bed is shot not because of the '38 stock. One of the reasons for the long closure is to rectify this!
I love how as Geoff is talking at around 10:30 in the background someone has hung their jacket up and just randomly starts dancing or playing charades.
Or they are just trying not to be ejected from their seat.
Great video; haven't seen that 'Please do not put feet on seats' sign for many, many years! Seat pattern does look like it's from the Metropolitan line too; after they refurbished the A-Stock in the 1990s if I remember rightly.
I will miss these trains, at least 007 is back up and running with 006 & 008. Such a wonderful and unique Line!
007 is currently out of traffic, having failed since its overhaul, 006 is currently providing the service alone.
Nice 👌
You will not miss the 1938 stock because it is in Train Sim World 2
This summer i was gonna go to the Isle of Wight to ride the 38 stock and cycle along the path along the old line from sandown to Newport and cowes. Geoff you probably know but the old platforms are still standing at merstone and Yarmouth which is cool
On the 3/4 January they are putting 006 and 007 together to create a 4 car operational train for the first time in years
Now I'm homesick. Thanks Geoff 👍🏻
Went on the older 1920 stock several times, they looked great in NWSE livery. I don’t remember going on the ‘new’ 1938 stock though! How to be able to make it over to see the D stock when they start, be nice to see one of the 1938 sets preserved!
Fantastic drone shots!!
The 1938 stock will always run on my PC
Nice video Geoff
Awesome video. Love the old tube trains. Interestingly they are being replaced by new old tube trains!!! The d stock
The drone shot at 12:42 and the music alongside it was perfect. Felt like the ending to a TV Drama or a movie!
I'm an isle of wight resident and tomorrow me and my mate arr going for our final bash on the 38s. Very good video Geoff