I love watching this 8 years later when EVERYONE knows the Recruiting Girl and Marketer strategies. You did so well here with Jen creating a good engine on first play before this game was analysed to death.
+Rahdo Fantastic run-through, extra impressive knowing you didn't like this game from the outset. This game is a sure thing for me;will add this to my collection. Thanks
This seems like a game where a more experienced player can go "I WILL CRUSH YOU ON MY TRAY AND SERVE YOUR LOWER BACK AS BURGERS" It's seems extremely crushing. I love it!
this is unfair. After SUSD I was like Cool game, but pricey and not so great looking in terms of the dull city map. Now Seeing in detail how the game works. I WANT IT SO BAD. Dull map be damned. Though I only have one person to play it with really. And we barely can make two gamenights per year together. T.T
Great video, Rahdo! Thanks! Am I wrong in that Jen wouldn't need to price cut at the end? She can just use additional marketing campaigns to add other products to to what the neighborhoods want.
+Edward Centofante jen wouldn't need to price cut because in this configuration she shouldn't be missing out on any sales. the neighbourhood in the same space as jen either pays $10 to go to her restaurant or $9 + $1 (travel) to go to richard's. same cost, so she has more waitresses, and they go to her. the upper neighbourhood pays either $10 + $1 to go to hers, or $9 + $2 to go to richard's. some cost again, and she has more waitresses. richard isn't actually able to compete with jen's mega corp the way he thinks he is. now, i only know as much about this game as what i've watched in the last hour and a half, but that's how it looks to me. and now i must play this game somehow :)
+Zero Bad Ideas That's interesting about the price mechanic. He never really explained how that worked. One thing I think you missed is he had the milestone that reduced costs by an additional dollar. So it was $8, not $9.
+Edward Centofante actually, the milestone was the only thing i was taking into consideration :) I was thinking that because he'd have to actually staff his pricing guy to get the extra discount, it wouldn't be as high a priority strategically with only three staffing slots available... but now I see that if he used his pricing guy and his burger cook, he would actually get both neighbourhoods (if Jen doesn't staff at least one pricing guy, which doesn't seem like a problem for her)
+Edward Centofante he had the milestone but he didn't have the price manager on the structure so the price he was asking was $9... for the price to be at $8 he would have to have the Price Manager occupying one of the slots
Does Jen have to keep a slot open for her marketing person? the one running the "infinite billboard campaign"? For example at 17:50 you laid out all the employees under the CEO taking up all the "open slots" but if you counted the marketing person she'd have been one over. (I hope I'm explaining that correctly.) I'm just curious. I ordered this game after watching these walk through because it looks so awesome, and I figured I'd ask for clarification while I'm waiting for it to arrive. Great video!
sorry to say, i've only ever played the game the one time i was filming, and i don't really remember any more. if i was wrong though, someone would have pointed it out by now and an annotation would have been added :)
No apologies necessary. It makes sense that you hadn't been back to the game since filming since it isn't your type of game, I figured it was worth a shot asking on the off chance you happened to remember :). I'm just grateful you took a shot on a game you may not have normally done because otherwise I'd have never known of this game, I am really looking forward to playing this with my group of friends I have a feeling a few of them at least will really like it too. Thank you again for the great work on your videos!
At 20.00, the sum of distance and price is equal and both restaurants have the same number of waitresses. In this case, customers go to the chains i turn order, in this case Jenns, not yours.
+benji68 no problem... I also put the notes in the description of the video for people like you that don't have access to the notes on the screen to read so you know what goofs were made :)
Your mistakes on this video are totally understandable. It's hard enough to manage your brain to play this game, can't imagine playing two players at the same time!
Totally not seeing where the direct player conflict is as you can always follow the your opponent in a 2 player game if you are second, which you could manipulate with your work slots... there's really no stealing, discarding or destroying that I see. There's more direct conflict in Forge War during the mining phase where you can directly steal miners from your opponent, right? It seems like this game would be right up your alley!
+Jared Rupprecht he mentioned it's the combination of that and the sandboxiness - which he's just not a fan of (and spoke about at length in his last podcast Talks Through)
The player conflict is more subtle, but it's still direct. You can't affect each other's companies (your hand of cards) but you can really screw each other over on the board (in the neighborhood.) The thing about playing against yourself is you dont see the holes in your own strategies, so you cant attack each other in that way
+TheGrooves most fans of the game who have a lot more experience with it than me would argue that there's not a dominant strategy, or rather the dominant strategy changes from game to game based on the layout of the map :)
TheGrooves I watched another video of board game people actually playing the game who like the game , and neither of the 4 of them started off with a recruiter.
really liked the gameplay vids but could have done without most of the hypotheticals about what you could have done. i feel like most of them were pretty obvious and just distracted from what you were actually doing
I love watching this 8 years later when EVERYONE knows the Recruiting Girl and Marketer strategies. You did so well here with Jen creating a good engine on first play before this game was analysed to death.
that's cool, i had no idea! :)
That sneeze alert was hilarious!
+Rahdo Fantastic run-through, extra impressive knowing you didn't like this game from the outset. This game is a sure thing for me;will add this to my collection. Thanks
This seems like a game where a more experienced player can go "I WILL CRUSH YOU ON MY TRAY AND SERVE YOUR LOWER BACK AS BURGERS"
It's seems extremely crushing. I love it!
this is unfair. After SUSD I was like Cool game, but pricey and not so great looking in terms of the dull city map. Now Seeing in detail how the game works. I WANT IT SO BAD. Dull map be damned. Though I only have one person to play it with really. And we barely can make two gamenights per year together. T.T
Tom W it's on tabletop simulator. I'll play it with you.
I'd love to have this game but can't afford it :(
19:33 And he forgot to hire someone.
At 11:30 Jen has $10 of salaries (she has the burger cook) but wouldn't have to pay due to the $15 discount from the Milestone.
+Dean Jones noted... thanks
Great video, Rahdo! Thanks!
Am I wrong in that Jen wouldn't need to price cut at the end? She can just use additional marketing campaigns to add other products to to what the neighborhoods want.
+Edward Centofante there are several ways to go... that's one of them... what Richard was saying is another :)
+Edward Centofante jen wouldn't need to price cut because in this configuration she shouldn't be missing out on any sales.
the neighbourhood in the same space as jen either pays $10 to go to her restaurant or $9 + $1 (travel) to go to richard's. same cost, so she has more waitresses, and they go to her. the upper neighbourhood pays either $10 + $1 to go to hers, or $9 + $2 to go to richard's. some cost again, and she has more waitresses. richard isn't actually able to compete with jen's mega corp the way he thinks he is.
now, i only know as much about this game as what i've watched in the last hour and a half, but that's how it looks to me. and now i must play this game somehow :)
+Zero Bad Ideas That's interesting about the price mechanic. He never really explained how that worked. One thing I think you missed is he had the milestone that reduced costs by an additional dollar. So it was $8, not $9.
+Edward Centofante actually, the milestone was the only thing i was taking into consideration :) I was thinking that because he'd have to actually staff his pricing guy to get the extra discount, it wouldn't be as high a priority strategically with only three staffing slots available... but now I see that if he used his pricing guy and his burger cook, he would actually get both neighbourhoods (if Jen doesn't staff at least one pricing guy, which doesn't seem like a problem for her)
+Edward Centofante he had the milestone but he didn't have the price manager on the structure so the price he was asking was $9... for the price to be at $8 he would have to have the Price Manager occupying one of the slots
Does Jen have to keep a slot open for her marketing person? the one running the "infinite billboard campaign"?
For example at 17:50 you laid out all the employees under the CEO taking up all the "open slots" but if you counted the marketing person she'd have been one over.
(I hope I'm explaining that correctly.)
I'm just curious. I ordered this game after watching these walk through because it looks so awesome, and I figured I'd ask for clarification while I'm waiting for it to arrive.
Great video!
sorry to say, i've only ever played the game the one time i was filming, and i don't really remember any more. if i was wrong though, someone would have pointed it out by now and an annotation would have been added :)
No apologies necessary. It makes sense that you hadn't been back to the game since filming since it isn't your type of game, I figured it was worth a shot asking on the off chance you happened to remember :).
I'm just grateful you took a shot on a game you may not have normally done because otherwise I'd have never known of this game, I am really looking forward to playing this with my group of friends I have a feeling a few of them at least will really like it too.
Thank you again for the great work on your videos!
No, advertisers dont fill a slot while they're running the campagin
At 20.00, the sum of distance and price is equal and both restaurants have the same number of waitresses. In this case, customers go to the chains i turn order, in this case Jenns, not yours.
+benji68 it was already noted... thank you
+Paulo Renato sorry, i don't see the notes on the ipad
+benji68 no problem... I also put the notes in the description of the video for people like you that don't have access to the notes on the screen to read so you know what goofs were made :)
Your mistakes on this video are totally understandable. It's hard enough to manage your brain to play this game, can't imagine playing two players at the same time!
Do you watch Arrested Development Richard? "I've made a terrible mistake...."
i need to start working that in on purpose!
19:38 Jenn's waitresses didn't pay out?
they did, has did Richard's Waitresses at 23:15
+Paulo Renato yeah I wrote before I watched video through. Sorry. love these videos though. must be tonnes to remember
Can a Management Trainee manage Management Trainees who manage Trainers who train Managers?
sorry i don't know the game well enough to answer. but you can go ask on boardgamegeek and there'll be plenty of folks who could answer :)
Managers are not allowed to report to other managers, they have to report directly to the CEO
You can only have 3 "tiers" the Ceo, the managers, and then employees. So no infinite trees
Totally not seeing where the direct player conflict is as you can always follow the your opponent in a 2 player game if you are second, which you could manipulate with your work slots... there's really no stealing, discarding or destroying that I see. There's more direct conflict in Forge War during the mining phase where you can directly steal miners from your opponent, right? It seems like this game would be right up your alley!
+Jared Rupprecht he mentioned it's the combination of that and the sandboxiness - which he's just not a fan of (and spoke about at length in his last podcast Talks Through)
The player conflict is more subtle, but it's still direct. You can't affect each other's companies (your hand of cards) but you can really screw each other over on the board (in the neighborhood.) The thing about playing against yourself is you dont see the holes in your own strategies, so you cant attack each other in that way
Who is JENN????
+15RevX faq.rahdo.com :)
you completed 50% of your sentences
so, what are
Thank you for recording this playthrough, though. It was extremely helpful for learning the turn order and mechanics!
I was interested in this, but seeing how there is an obvious strategy ( hiring a recruiter and then a trainer ), kinda broke this game for me.
+TheGrooves most fans of the game who have a lot more experience with it than me would argue that there's not a dominant strategy, or rather the dominant strategy changes from game to game based on the layout of the map :)
TheGrooves I watched another video of board game people actually playing the game who like the game , and neither of the 4 of them started off with a recruiter.
If you get a good trainer too early then you’re going to have salaries you can’t afford
@@RichieDcik although if you train first you get a $15 discount on salaries. The early training strategy is also viable.
really liked the gameplay vids but could have done without most of the hypotheticals about what you could have done. i feel like most of them were pretty obvious and just distracted from what you were actually doing
sounds like my channel might not be for you, and that's okay
He’s showing all the different ways things can be done to show people who don’t know anything about the game