Basically Sims that contain licences Road Cars and mechanics that appeal to a wider audience then also release on console are the only way we can trap people into proper race driving with REAL RACE CARS ! - like MX5s Formula Ford , Radical SR3 , F2 , F3 and grow REAL !! simracing BTW GT3 are not real race cars (unless being used in a multi class endurance race ) - thanks :)
Will you make a video about Tokyo Xtreme Racer or at least play it on launch? Perhaps you can see if the racing in Tokyo is really as extreme as they say.
Me too. Started as a replacement of gokart stuff on covid to joining a local community to being a good enough driver that i can earn a good amount of money from local adn online events and tournaments. On top of all that, i got so many new friends from the community from local race photographer to an actual professional racing driver.
I was VERY into model railroading, and STILL have a bedroom with an around the wall trackplan. I haven't touched it in over 10 years...right at the time Assetto Corsa came out. Built a PC JUST for AC. !0 years later, I've built a NEW PC/DD rig/ultrawide fro AC EVO...TWO MORE DAYS!!!
Project Cars 2 is my favorite. Great game. It happened to me exactly what you said. After the first two Project Cars, my life in sim racing changed forever. So nice to see good virtual drivers talking about PC2
The way PC2 went down will always be one of the biggest betrayals in sim racing. They had something incomplete yet very special and instead of building on it they decided to set fire to it instead...
I really hope that ACE attempts to faithfully recreate as many real life motorsport disciplines as possible like Project CARS 2 did. It attempted to bring the joy of motorsport to the masses in a way that Gran Turismo and Forza don't even try to do.
Project Cars 2 was huge for more casual sim racers. It actually looked like a game and not your old windows XP application like many other sims ( hello AC, Iracing) It also had a lot of gameplay elements like one would expect. Assetto Corsa EVO are without a doubt looking at the casual playerbase a lot more now and I think its a great recipe as long as we keep the simulation factor!
PC2 the best career mode. A interesting engineer function. an assortment of tracks, a great assortment of car classes. Unfortunately a generally poor set of default car setups. Some the supplied engineer couldn't repair. At same reeled me into the sim abyss.
The poor default setups in combination with the in-game tips how to improve your setup, actually made me develop an interest for setting up cars (to a certain level) and improving my knowledge about it.
I really liked it for being a complete package. I tried AC. Liked the physics, didn't like the VR implementation and the menus. Wanted to join an online race, couldn't because I didn't own the content. Quit the game and enjoyed playing PC2. After a while I wanted a bit more depth and polish to the sim, enter AMS2.
hopefully the learned from what happened with project cars 3. dont lose the simulation aspect. keep it full sim. but with cool features like free roam (street racing) and touge etc.
Project Cars 2 was the first circuit Sim I picked up after getting hooked into dirt rally. It having a free demo helped it along quite a lot, I drove many laps at Red Bull ring 😂
I completely agree. PC1 and 2 got me into proper sim racing, if there is such a thing. Even taking into account some of the dodgy physics in a lot of cars, there were some hidden jewels. The level of immersion is something I still enjoy and regularly take out a 917k on the vintage Le Mans track. Always leaves me smiling. I hope AC EVO will have a similar effect.
I've raced sims since the NASCAR Racing days..!! Also, owned and drove real race cars..!! I was a pioneer early on at integrating simulations with real life race cars..!! Specifically, chassis setups and track seat time..!! Project Cars 2 stands out to me as the first sim to include just about everything in one package..!! With tons of tracks and cars, the completeness is insane..!! From chassis/tire physics to seasonal weather and precipitation physics, it does everything very well..!! It also set the graphical standard to judge all others against, not to mention, a fantastic experience in VR..!!
PC2 brought me back to Sim, definitely. I got started way back in F1C 99-02 and then of course what came of it in GTR2 and rF1 in the mid 2000's, but then for almost 10 years there was a big gap where no title grabed my attention until PC2.
I have to say this is one of your more coherent videos and you raise really good points. As some one who was converted to hardcore simracing in part due the original project cars I couldn't agree more. You did miss one segment though... PC gamers who are looking for a Gran Turismo experience. I was browsing steam back in the day and saw PC Cars 1 and though wow Gran Turismo for PC. AC Evo is taking the Gran Turismo for PC a step further. Lets hope its good
Hopefully ACE will have a good gamepad implementation like both PC2 and especially GT7 have. Then it will have a much bigger mainstream appeal which means more funding for lovely Kunos and a growing popularity of sim racing in general and more people switching to racing wheels which in turn will lead to more enjoyable wheel experiences in more racing games and maybe even to a growing number of decent racing games. It’s optimistic but I share your opinion Mr. Muscle. Btw: I share a lot of your views you expressed in your recent videos, your explaining is great and I think you have a lot of empathy. I only follow you for a few months now but your takes always resonate the most with me out of all the sim racing content.
I joined the PC sim rabbit hole in Dec 2014 coming from a PS3 and Gran Turismo. Got so sick of the inconsistency and wonkiness of the physics I kinda rage quit and then ordered the parts for my computer. That was when AC was just out of early access if I recall, and Project Cars 1 was right around the corner. Good times... a decade later and many thousands of dollars out the window... what else am I supposed to do, watch reruns on TV? nah, watch a British bloke ramble nonsense? hell yeah!
Sim racing entertainment has come a long way since its early beginnings, with a variety of games and platforms available to suit different preferences and playstyles. Some sim racers still enjoy the hardcore, simulation-focused experiences offered by games like Race 07 or GTR2, while others prefer the more accessible and arcade-style gameplay found in titles like Need for Speed. However, there is a new generation of sim racers who are just discovering the joys of virtual racing, and companies like EVO are here to help introduce them to the world of sim racing. EVO, in particular, is focused on providing a fun and engaging experience for newcomers, while still offering the depth and realism that veteran sim racers have come to expect. Gran Turismo is another influential force in the world of sim racing, and for many players, it was their gateway into the world of virtual racing. The series' combination of accessible gameplay, stunning graphics, and realistic physics has won over millions of fans around the world, and it's easy to see why. Gran Turismo has played a huge role in bringing sim racing to the mainstream, and its influence can still be felt today. But no matter how you got into sim racing, one thing is clear: the hobby is continuing to evolve and grow. With the rise of esports and virtual racing leagues, as well as the development of new technologies like virtual reality and motion simulators, there has never been a better time to be a sim racer. At the end of the day, what matters most is that we all share a passion for sim racing and the sense of community that comes with it. Whether you're a hardcore sim racer or a newcomer just discovering the hobby, there is a place for you in the world of virtual racing. So, let's embrace the evolution of sim racing entertainment, and continue to share our love of the hobby with others. In conclusion, sim racing entertainment has evolved over the years, and new generations are being introduced to the hobby through platforms like EvVO and games like Gran Turismo. Regardless of how you got into sim racing, what matters is the passion and community that comes with it. Embrace the evolution of sim racing, and continue to share your love for the hobby with others.
Started with a G27 on my desk and locked deskchair with Pcars1 and AC on the side. Joined AOR and have had good times in that league. Then Pcars 2 came around and compared to Pcars 1 750hours i did 250hours in Pcars2 and all the buggs in the beginning put me of and went AC league racing but made me go full throttle and here i am now 5 years in iracing or so have had csl elite pedals V3 now Sprints, went from desk triple 60hz cheap panels to VR now 3x32 1440p have had DD1 now Simagic U FXPro ,have had selfmade wooden rig then motedis 8020 then Trakracer TR80 XD ahhh just such a great hobby !!
Largely agreed, with the caveat that my opinion could change if Sony decided to bring Gran Turismo to pc. Still actually pretty surprised they haven’t. Additionally, wheel base devs need to get that console integration lined up before launch to capitalize on some of the opportunities there in general/with Evo. For me it was Forza 3 originally that got me buying a cheap MS 360 wheel. Then after selling it for college/life, it was GT7 that motivated me to buy again, and now I’ve got a 2k rig sitting in the corner 3 years later that hasn’t touched a console in 2 of those years.
GT7 is decent. It's amazing in VR. However, since jumping into AC again, this time in VR, I haven't touched it. The driving experience in AC blows GT7 clean out of the water. With the CSP, it can actually look on par, and sometimes better, in a VR (specifically the PSVR2) headset than GT7 does. If Evo gets the open world right, what does GT have left for it other than just being a detailed car porn simulator? the "real driving simulator" my arse.
@@steve_ire321in vr specially in the cockpit view gt7 destroys ac even with pure and csp. You have way more detailed interiors in gt7, and i play on setup on pc with 7900 xtx gpu. Ac can look good and some time come close to gt7, but its a mixed bag as of the quality of the content, majority of car mods are lower quality. Ac is starting to show its age. I do think ac evo has big shot to look better than gt7 being. New game, new engine, and is on better hardware. As huge gt fan i still have to admit ac evo will be better in almost every way.
After havin great reaction before and esp. after 1 unavoidable high speed crash on infamous german A4 I can assure you: every dime on a sim rig, every hour testing limits in sim is 100% saving you from bad injuries or even loosing your live. Yes ACEvo is a game, but the practice you get through all these virtual crashes are definetly real. Evaded so many shit happening on streets because of.
It is a very interesting idea. I always believed that Assetto Corsa created the community building effect that you label to Project Car 2 - but your opinion must be true. I tend to forget that considering that I enjoy sims that are rather niche, they don't produce the numbers that can gravitate people in. Great content mate.
I've been iracing 2 years, but the more people point out the flaws in their tire model the more it pisses me off. VRS is great to self coach. But I've discovered AC Mx5 lfm and its just awesome. Especially rewarding with hpattern and clutch.
The open world with proper sim elements is massive. If they get that right, and allow for mods to carry over, it could redefine the genre. It'd be a landmark title in the same way some other popular genres had theirs through the years. They have to get a few things right for that to be the case, performance, content, ai, physics and VR.
For me Evo will probably be about Cruising and Road Trips around the world's best driving roads, with friends, with proper low and mid range torque (and I can wait few years for stuff like that)❤️
Gm, you are on point with this video!!! I was happy playing GT. Forza and f1 with a gamepad, pc2 made me want to get a wheel. After starting with a g29 on ps4, im now playing with 2 rigs with a dd1 and a vrs dd. All because of pc2.
why everytime erything you say is absolutely spot on...Pcars2 WAS the gateway drug for MANY including me even haha and it grew to become the heart of Automobilista 2 which use the same game engine and most stuff as well.
I’m excited to see mate James and I hope they deliver!! I went from ps4 ps3 amd all the f1 games, then to ps5 and gt7 into a 30k Pc| motion rig with 3 x 60inch 4K screens , active pedals and Simucube ultimate base and hardcore serious online racing iracing fanboy.. now a little addicted. So I guess I might be the odd one out who did that
Well, after experiencing the Clio IV R.S. in Project Cars2, I bought one. And yes, the rear gets realy that loose when you hit the brakes at high speeds.
With all the hate PC2 gets now, it is very difficult to understand the hype it came with. It went over just the sim racing community. I came into racing because of VR and PC2 was the first title I tried because it was one of the first that supported VR. I then moved on to AC when I got more serious about it.
Right now, from what I've seen of EVO it looks like a driving simulator rather than a dedicated racing simulator. Personally, I wait until later this year to see how EVO rolls out before I make the purchase.
How ironic you decided to cover PC2 since I just reinstalled it (portable install) to mess around in after all these years. I agree with your assessment, and think the main reason PC2 gets a lot of "hate" from both sides is it has hardcore sim elements, but the presentation is more like a traditional video game even in terms of graphics for the time. It literally is a "sim cade" even if you hate that term - lol. The physics are questionable on both wheel and controller in 2025, but they were fine for the era, and managed to bridge the gap between hardcore simmers and casual racing fans which isn't as easy as people think.
2 Days 😮 I was part of that cult with Project Cars 2. Quite funny really, towards the end it became so obvious that you were steered down a very narrow minded path. Although I really loved and enjoyed PC2, over time I drifted over to AC which imo is the far better sim simply because of the sheer variety, and continued 3rd party development. But I agree GM, AC Evo really needs to be the 2nd coming 😅 😊
I’m quite enjoying these morning chin wags!! Keep em’ coming! Unlike other content creators who ‘talk’ about sim racing (hint…name begins with ‘K’… And also, your comment about explaining stuff. I think you are really good and to the point.
I think its good to have different content on TH-cam, people like different things I don't watch other simracing channels unless they are offering technical information i wont know or game development information though i pop into live streams sometimes as It can be fun to see what people are doing. I like Kireth personally he and his partner are always nice to hang out with relaxed and friendly I can see how his titles and format rubs people up the wrong way but then so does my content lol
I started sim racing because GTR1 was 2.99$ at my local EB Games store. I had a logitech 29.99$ wheel. Loved it so much I then got a G25 for Christmas and GTR2 Went on to play GTR Evo, Legends, Race 07 to perfect my skills. I had fun with NFS pro street And then invested in Project Cars because I wanted sim racing to survive. I agree that Project Cars was big! It was a fight against ES to keep real sim focused titles coming. I bought all AC stuff but haven’t played as much as PC2 and ACC. I also got iRacing for a year. I have the early LMU. My main right now is AMS2 for the VR.
At the end of the video, you talk about how your mind & thoughts are kinda all over the place, and you therefore struggle to get your thoughts across in a truly linear way. But I think (hand on heart) that is the big appeal of your Channel, GM. As you arguably think like the best parts of all the Sim Racing Games... a little bit of this (eg:- road cars)... a little bit of that (er:- race cars)... and just a little bit RADICAL!!!, hahaha (I mean in the best possible way ; )))
AC EVO also has the expectation to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in turnover within the Nuremberg ring money pit. I believe all the shops you can drive by in that huge map have the opportunity to make them self's available for contact and bookings, whether that's accommodation, Dining, car hire, track taxis etc. It'll be more than just a sim-cade. I'm hoping the commercial side won't interfere too much while cruising the landscape. Love your work.
Both PCARS games were the definite simulators back then because we didnt have any proper ones. I had a g25 back then and it was such an amazing experience! Also Sounds were amazing just like the Shift games.
Well did have quite a few sims back then that were and are still more realistic than AMS2/iracing and even PC2 in many ways maybe not on console. But on PC - LFS,RBR,GTRE,AC,AMS1
It will be if they release a console version. Project Cars is so important because they allowed console players to experience somenthing very close to a simulation
AC EVO should really have mods on console. Console is a HUGE market, and games like Skyrim, Fallout 4 and Baldur's Gate 3 all offer this feature. Assuming AC EVO does have strong modding support it'd be short sighted not to include it for the console version of the game.
Still drive PC2 more than any of the newer sims for the career paths you can choose. The "GT5" Ginetta Junior suits me well, yes a small child's race car is just the challenge I need!
Unanswered question... What is your hope and dreams for sim racing (/hardcore sim racing)? A lot more players and challenge? Developers invest and making better and better sims? (I hope for that because I play offline only). If the genre does explode and become huge, could it also ruin "it"? Just wondering thoughts. Original AC is why I build my 'sim rig' (basic, but still feels good), and why I love VR racing too (even though AC VR is not the best or easiest). I love trying a variety of cars and challenges driving them, not into online at all... I want realism and feel... hoping that ACE delivers all of that. I've been playing AC since early access and understand it's going to be a long road ... but that's okay, I'm in for the drive. Happy driving all. Looking forward to seeing what ACE brings. Fingers tightly crossed 2 days before ea release.
If I won't remember wrong, the PC2 had the Live Track feature as the first one of any other title. And snow. And even in real---time if you wanted for example from the Green Hell (the weather). And that was a huge step progress in the simulator scene.
Push the pedal, the base is very large. One of my first GM videos that i subscribed to unsubscribe to😎 thank you for all the years of entertainment. Peace✌️
I just want to point out that I exist to be wrong. But I am calling it now, the cars we are getting are gonna be models from AC1 like the Miata cup. I'm so jaded by the gaming industry lately that I will not buy into hype until it's in hands. But I remain hopeful
They will have likely used the original models as part of reference but then built on them , Kunos have always put a ton of work and detail into there games they are still quite a "small" company on the grand scheme of things and also have healthy finances from both AC and ACC so are not under the same sort of publisher pressures as some other companies. EVO is a new graphics engine so they would have had to have re-done a bunch of stuff regardless for shaders , audio , whole host of parameters.
@GamerMuscleVideos AC1 was definitely a love letter to racing. I think the same will be true for Evo and you are right they are a smaller company. ACC was also amazing. But, personally, I'm being cautious, but optimistic. I am getting early access and I have no doubt I will enjoy myself. Thanks for the reply!
Pronouncing it "assetto corsa evvo" is killing me, it's EE-vo EEEEVO. But I agree ACE has stupid high potential for grabbing a casuals into the deep end.
You mean to say that Assetto Corsa EVO won't be simulation-oriented enough to ultimately stick to that fully 100% simulation approach that completely recreates the physics of cars, tires, tracks, and open roads? :) ;)
No AC Evo is a full on simulator , project cars 2 was designed as a full on simulator you can argue over how much a game then manages that and to what degree. But both AC Evo and Project cars 2 , manage to appeal to a wider audience due to the licences and the relase on console as well as supporting game pads / having more "game" Structure and aspects to them that make them acessable to wider less mega nurd "simracer"
PC2 was basically like a standard PC sim but also released on console the developer was trying to make as realistic simulator as possible ( like kunos is with Evo) nice graphics , good range of content but a focus around more realistic driving. I think GT is kinda similar but it has a different heritage and culture behind it GT sort of comes from more of a Console approach to simulation and more of a Japanese game design culture and Japanese car culture. Its really interesting the flavour of these games I think , how MSR and Project Gotham end up being a sort of in-between of the GT style and presentation and then you have the forza 1234 games that again end up being there own thing that's almost like an Americanisation of GT mixed with the PGR feel. You have lots of the same people working between these different games so you will then get those artistic influences and design aspects blending across games.
Best sim for me proably ever. Its a dream come true gt7 like experince for single player experince and progression. Open world with tdu features, full sim in vr with all the strengths of ac and acc in one pakage.
Is it just me that bought a copy of the Curves magazine that they showed in the Christmas preview of Assetto Corsa Evo? Looked like it might have some nice pictures of the area around the Nordschleife, and if not then the pictures look quite nice anyway. (Obviously we don't get the free roam for a few months, but it is nice to look at, init?)
I am just hoping that EVO has both time acceleration and the ability to manually set the fuel load for AI races. It is far to difficult to try and find the right AI level and get a consistent pitstop strategy from the ai when doing offline races.
The first AC is available on console already. Tried it years ago and immediately built a PC and a simlab rig havent looked back since. I dont think Evo will go that hard on console since GT7 alreadt exists and people are fine playing that on controller. But I could be very wrong hopefully.
I'm still terrified it'll be a ksp or cities skylines situation. Proven IP with goodwill behind it, long awaited sequel, early access, broken promises. I can't wait to be proven wrong, really hope I'm wrong.
I think I am your doppelgänger, although I have a better beard, slightly better looking, possibly more intelligent as coffee is better than tea. Could see EVO being PC2 doppelgänger, although better physics, slightly better looking, possibly more intelligent as oh forget it the AI will be terrible like AC!
Probably I'm not diagnosed with it though but diagnosed dyslexic , lol I still can't write for shit and find a ton of very basic things quite difficult but people are really nice about it and It leads to lots of funny situations so I'm pretty happy with it 😅☕
In 2914, I built a computer JUST for Assetto Corsa. 10 years later, I've built a NEW computer, AND DD rig with an ULTRAWIDE in anticipation of AC EVO. TWO MORE DAYS!!!! I have no problems with Project Cars 1 or 2, but I've been concentrating on Competizione lately
If gran turismo was on pc I'd would just have the pc for everything but to have the chance to play them all you need at least a PS4 to go with the pc..vi wish I could just let gt7 go but I can't so it's a pc and PS4 for me.
Basically Sims that contain licences Road Cars and mechanics that appeal to a wider audience then also release on console
are the only way we can trap people into proper race driving with REAL RACE CARS ! - like MX5s Formula Ford , Radical SR3 , F2 , F3 and grow REAL !! simracing
BTW GT3 are not real race cars (unless being used in a multi class endurance race ) - thanks :)
One word ADHD.
always same tracks and cars!
GT3... grand touring for three... that's a trip through the country side with the family... not racing. 😮😅😂
Is this guy in my head.... Same thoughts bro
Will you make a video about Tokyo Xtreme Racer or at least play it on launch? Perhaps you can see if the racing in Tokyo is really as extreme as they say.
Sim: tries to simulate reality as close as possible
Simcade: brings some aspects of a sim, doesn't fully commit on it
Arcade: ignores reality
PC2 was my gateway to sim racing. Many fond memories
Geoff Crammonds Formula 1 Grand Prix was mine.
PC2? Since when did Personal Computers get a sequel??
Sorry, I'll leave now.
@@verticalflyingb737 officer, this man right here
AC changed my life, no joke. ACE can do it again.
Me too. Started as a replacement of gokart stuff on covid to joining a local community to being a good enough driver that i can earn a good amount of money from local adn online events and tournaments. On top of all that, i got so many new friends from the community from local race photographer to an actual professional racing driver.
Crack can change your life too... not all changes are good 😂
I was VERY into model railroading, and STILL have a bedroom with an around the wall trackplan. I haven't touched it in over 10 years...right at the time Assetto Corsa came out. Built a PC JUST for AC. !0 years later, I've built a NEW PC/DD rig/ultrawide fro AC EVO...TWO MORE DAYS!!!
Project Cars 2 is my favorite. Great game. It happened to me exactly what you said. After the first two Project Cars, my life in sim racing changed forever. So nice to see good virtual drivers talking about PC2
The way PC2 went down will always be one of the biggest betrayals in sim racing.
They had something incomplete yet very special and instead of building on it they decided to set fire to it instead...
thankfully someone else picked the ball and built automobilista 2 on it!
@@TechWizMaster Absolutely but the snobs will not admit it.
AmS2 is pretty bloody good now. Took a while but it's to shelf now @@RonniePeterson
Broski got his bullet proof vest on for all these hot takes
Got to be safe when reporting from the trenches !
Trenches of sim wars
1000 + hours in PCars 1 and 2, they brought me to PC cos of VR before that it was NFS: Shift 1 and 2 for Playstation.
I really hope that ACE attempts to faithfully recreate as many real life motorsport disciplines as possible like Project CARS 2 did. It attempted to bring the joy of motorsport to the masses in a way that Gran Turismo and Forza don't even try to do.
Yeah that’s what I’m hoping. Group 5, touring car, all sorts of single seaters. I loved pc2 for that. With historical circuits as well
@@SmakerJAK Even Karting
@@SmakerJAK you can get ALL of that and WAY more (racing lawnmowers anyone?) with the mods for AC.
Lets just hope that the initial download isn't similar to MSFS 2024.
Luckily we won’t be worrying about multiplayer so I hope it won’t be a bog down on their side
Project Cars 2 was huge for more casual sim racers. It actually looked like a game and not your old windows XP application like many other sims ( hello AC, Iracing)
It also had a lot of gameplay elements like one would expect.
Assetto Corsa EVO are without a doubt looking at the casual playerbase a lot more now and I think its a great recipe as long as we keep the simulation factor!
PC2 the best career mode. A interesting engineer function. an assortment of tracks, a great assortment of car classes.
Unfortunately a generally poor set of default car setups. Some the supplied engineer couldn't repair. At same reeled me into the sim abyss.
The poor default setups in combination with the in-game tips how to improve your setup, actually made me develop an interest for setting up cars (to a certain level) and improving my knowledge about it.
I really liked it for being a complete package.
I tried AC. Liked the physics, didn't like the VR implementation and the menus. Wanted to join an online race, couldn't because I didn't own the content. Quit the game and enjoyed playing PC2.
After a while I wanted a bit more depth and polish to the sim, enter AMS2.
hopefully the learned from what happened with project cars 3. dont lose the simulation aspect. keep it full sim. but with cool features like free roam (street racing) and touge etc.
No pcars was ever a sim....instead, fully loaded simmycade physics @@socks2441
Im a project cars 2 disciple that moved over to simulators. I started in VR with a Xbox controller and have since moved on to a sim rig.
Project Cars 2 was the first circuit Sim I picked up after getting hooked into dirt rally. It having a free demo helped it along quite a lot, I drove many laps at Red Bull ring 😂
The positive, agreeable comments are just us humouring you.
That does make sense lol
Yeah! Project Cars 2!
That was me as well, started with PC2 which introduced me to AC and Raceroom.
When I didn't know anything about simracing, the only titles I knew were Live for Speed, PC2 and Assetto Corsa. I'm glad these were my first games.
I'm not going to expect too much from ace. Most new big releases are a disappointment, i can't be disappointed if i have no expectations.
Ahahaha so true 👍
I completely agree. PC1 and 2 got me into proper sim racing, if there is such a thing.
Even taking into account some of the dodgy physics in a lot of cars, there were some hidden jewels.
The level of immersion is something I still enjoy and regularly take out a 917k on the vintage Le Mans track. Always leaves me smiling. I hope AC EVO will have a similar effect.
I've raced sims since the NASCAR Racing days..!! Also, owned and drove real race cars..!! I was a pioneer early on at integrating simulations with real life race cars..!! Specifically, chassis setups and track seat time..!! Project Cars 2 stands out to me as the first sim to include just about everything in one package..!! With tons of tracks and cars, the completeness is insane..!! From chassis/tire physics to seasonal weather and precipitation physics, it does everything very well..!! It also set the graphical standard to judge all others against, not to mention, a fantastic experience in VR..!!
Loved the mini-tutorial on the movements required to finesse and drive a car precisely at 5:10 ;)
PC2 brought me back to Sim, definitely. I got started way back in F1C 99-02 and then of course what came of it in GTR2 and rF1 in the mid 2000's, but then for almost 10 years there was a big gap where no title grabed my attention until PC2.
I have to say this is one of your more coherent videos and you raise really good points. As some one who was converted to hardcore simracing in part due the original project cars I couldn't agree more. You did miss one segment though... PC gamers who are looking for a Gran Turismo experience.
I was browsing steam back in the day and saw PC Cars 1 and though wow Gran Turismo for PC. AC Evo is taking the Gran Turismo for PC a step further. Lets hope its good
True. I bought my first rig when PC2 came out. Before that I had wheels but never a rig.
Hopefully ACE will have a good gamepad implementation like both PC2 and especially GT7 have. Then it will have a much bigger mainstream appeal which means more funding for lovely Kunos and a growing popularity of sim racing in general and more people switching to racing wheels which in turn will lead to more enjoyable wheel experiences in more racing games and maybe even to a growing number of decent racing games. It’s optimistic but I share your opinion Mr. Muscle. Btw: I share a lot of your views you expressed in your recent videos, your explaining is great and I think you have a lot of empathy. I only follow you for a few months now but your takes always resonate the most with me out of all the sim racing content.
I agree! Project Cars 1 was the game that made me move from console and buy a pc, buy a wheel and also got me in love with VR!
I joined the PC sim rabbit hole in Dec 2014 coming from a PS3 and Gran Turismo. Got so sick of the inconsistency and wonkiness of the physics I kinda rage quit and then ordered the parts for my computer. That was when AC was just out of early access if I recall, and Project Cars 1 was right around the corner. Good times... a decade later and many thousands of dollars out the window... what else am I supposed to do, watch reruns on TV? nah, watch a British bloke ramble nonsense? hell yeah!
Sim racing entertainment has come a long way since its early beginnings, with a variety of games and platforms available to suit different preferences and playstyles. Some sim racers still enjoy the hardcore, simulation-focused experiences offered by games like Race 07 or GTR2, while others prefer the more accessible and arcade-style gameplay found in titles like Need for Speed.
However, there is a new generation of sim racers who are just discovering the joys of virtual racing, and companies like EVO are here to help introduce them to the world of sim racing. EVO, in particular, is focused on providing a fun and engaging experience for newcomers, while still offering the depth and realism that veteran sim racers have come to expect.
Gran Turismo is another influential force in the world of sim racing, and for many players, it was their gateway into the world of virtual racing. The series' combination of accessible gameplay, stunning graphics, and realistic physics has won over millions of fans around the world, and it's easy to see why. Gran Turismo has played a huge role in bringing sim racing to the mainstream, and its influence can still be felt today.
But no matter how you got into sim racing, one thing is clear: the hobby is continuing to evolve and grow. With the rise of esports and virtual racing leagues, as well as the development of new technologies like virtual reality and motion simulators, there has never been a better time to be a sim racer.
At the end of the day, what matters most is that we all share a passion for sim racing and the sense of community that comes with it. Whether you're a hardcore sim racer or a newcomer just discovering the hobby, there is a place for you in the world of virtual racing. So, let's embrace the evolution of sim racing entertainment, and continue to share our love of the hobby with others.
In conclusion, sim racing entertainment has evolved over the years, and new generations are being introduced to the hobby through platforms like EvVO and games like Gran Turismo. Regardless of how you got into sim racing, what matters is the passion and community that comes with it. Embrace the evolution of sim racing, and continue to share your love for the hobby with others.
Sorry, I don't have any English fish and chips on hand so I can't flog myself with soggy fish or soggy chips...🦈
Started with a G27 on my desk and locked deskchair with Pcars1 and AC on the side. Joined AOR and have had good times in that league. Then Pcars 2 came around and compared to Pcars 1 750hours i did 250hours in Pcars2 and all the buggs in the beginning put me of and went AC league racing but made me go full throttle and here i am now 5 years in iracing or so have had csl elite pedals V3 now Sprints, went from desk triple 60hz cheap panels to VR now 3x32 1440p have had DD1 now Simagic U FXPro ,have had selfmade wooden rig then motedis 8020 then Trakracer TR80 XD ahhh just such a great hobby !!
Largely agreed, with the caveat that my opinion could change if Sony decided to bring Gran Turismo to pc. Still actually pretty surprised they haven’t. Additionally, wheel base devs need to get that console integration lined up before launch to capitalize on some of the opportunities there in general/with Evo. For me it was Forza 3 originally that got me buying a cheap MS 360 wheel. Then after selling it for college/life, it was GT7 that motivated me to buy again, and now I’ve got a 2k rig sitting in the corner 3 years later that hasn’t touched a console in 2 of those years.
GT7 is decent. It's amazing in VR. However, since jumping into AC again, this time in VR, I haven't touched it. The driving experience in AC blows GT7 clean out of the water. With the CSP, it can actually look on par, and sometimes better, in a VR (specifically the PSVR2) headset than GT7 does. If Evo gets the open world right, what does GT have left for it other than just being a detailed car porn simulator? the "real driving simulator" my arse.
@@steve_ire321in vr specially in the cockpit view gt7 destroys ac even with pure and csp. You have way more detailed interiors in gt7, and i play on setup on pc with 7900 xtx gpu.
Ac can look good and some time come close to gt7, but its a mixed bag as of the quality of the content, majority of car mods are lower quality. Ac is starting to show its age.
I do think ac evo has big shot to look better than gt7 being. New game, new engine, and is on better hardware.
As huge gt fan i still have to admit ac evo will be better in almost every way.
I didn't know project cars 2 had such significance
100% you are correct James pc2 and you are to blame for my 10k rig , keep up the good work you are a legend 🫶🏁
Don't blame me
After havin great reaction before and esp. after 1 unavoidable high speed crash on infamous german A4 I can assure you: every dime on a sim rig, every hour testing limits in sim is 100% saving you from bad injuries or even loosing your live. Yes ACEvo is a game, but the practice you get through all these virtual crashes are definetly real. Evaded so many shit happening on streets because of.
@@GamerMuscleVideos It’s okay I consider you a good close friend of mine even though you don’t really know me 🫶🏁
It is a very interesting idea. I always believed that Assetto Corsa created the community building effect that you label to Project Car 2 - but your opinion must be true. I tend to forget that considering that I enjoy sims that are rather niche, they don't produce the numbers that can gravitate people in. Great content mate.
I've been iracing 2 years, but the more people point out the flaws in their tire model the more it pisses me off. VRS is great to self coach. But I've discovered AC Mx5 lfm and its just awesome. Especially rewarding with hpattern and clutch.
I like a little bit of GM content in the morning. Not too much just a taste
The open world with proper sim elements is massive. If they get that right, and allow for mods to carry over, it could redefine the genre. It'd be a landmark title in the same way some other popular genres had theirs through the years. They have to get a few things right for that to be the case, performance, content, ai, physics and VR.
Always loved this channel! Dont ever stop, GM! 100k subs in 2025!! Greetings from Norway!
Gran Turismo 1 on PS1 got me into cars and racing. Live For Speed on PC got me into sim racing.
I still play PC2.
For me Evo will probably be about Cruising and Road Trips around the world's best driving roads, with friends, with proper low and mid range torque (and I can wait few years for stuff like that)❤️
I was already in simracng, but PC2 was top draw to throw on a multiclass race with weather and day cycle and a padded grid.
Gm, you are on point with this video!!! I was happy playing GT. Forza and f1 with a gamepad, pc2 made me want to get a wheel. After starting with a g29 on ps4, im now playing with 2 rigs with a dd1 and a vrs dd. All because of pc2.
why everytime erything you say is absolutely spot on...Pcars2 WAS the gateway drug for MANY including me even haha and it grew to become the heart of Automobilista 2 which use the same game engine and most stuff as well.
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I’m excited to see mate James and I hope they deliver!!
I went from ps4 ps3 amd all the f1 games, then to ps5 and gt7 into a 30k Pc| motion rig with 3 x 60inch 4K screens , active pedals and Simucube ultimate base and hardcore serious online racing iracing fanboy.. now a little addicted. So I guess I might be the odd one out who did that
Well, after experiencing the Clio IV R.S. in Project Cars2, I bought one. And yes, the rear gets realy that loose when you hit the brakes at high speeds.
whenever pcars 2 get mentioned i get unreasonably sad
Yes, project cars 2 was great at that time. The only one with VR for a lot of time for example.
AC and LFS had VR before project cars 2
@@GamerMuscleVideos Yes but Project Cars 2 had better graphics at that time.
This is so true pc2 was my first sim and I bought a sim rig because of it 1:1 what you said, I even have the steelbox limited edition
Like most sims, I'll be waiting for the hype to die down and all the bugs to be ironed out.
With all the hate PC2 gets now, it is very difficult to understand the hype it came with. It went over just the sim racing community. I came into racing because of VR and PC2 was the first title I tried because it was one of the first that supported VR. I then moved on to AC when I got more serious about it.
Right now, from what I've seen of EVO it looks like a driving simulator rather than a dedicated racing simulator. Personally, I wait until later this year to see how EVO rolls out before I make the purchase.
How ironic you decided to cover PC2 since I just reinstalled it (portable install) to mess around in after all these years. I agree with your assessment, and think the main reason PC2 gets a lot of "hate" from both sides is it has hardcore sim elements, but the presentation is more like a traditional video game even in terms of graphics for the time. It literally is a "sim cade" even if you hate that term - lol. The physics are questionable on both wheel and controller in 2025, but they were fine for the era, and managed to bridge the gap between hardcore simmers and casual racing fans which isn't as easy as people think.
PC2 was great. Caterham was a great car to race. I bought full sim rig for PC2. Now on iracing.
2 Days 😮
I was part of that cult with Project Cars 2. Quite funny really, towards the end it became so obvious that you were steered down a very narrow minded path.
Although I really loved and enjoyed PC2, over time I drifted over to AC which imo is the far better sim simply because of the sheer variety, and continued 3rd party development.
But I agree GM, AC Evo really needs to be the 2nd coming 😅 😊
I’m quite enjoying these morning chin wags!! Keep em’ coming!
Unlike other content creators who ‘talk’ about sim racing (hint…name begins with ‘K’…
And also, your comment about explaining stuff. I think you are really good and to the point.
I think its good to have different content on TH-cam, people like different things I don't watch other simracing channels unless they are offering technical information i wont know or game development information though i pop into live streams sometimes as It can be fun to see what people are doing.
I like Kireth personally he and his partner are always nice to hang out with relaxed and friendly I can see how his titles and format rubs people up the wrong way but then so does my content lol
I started sim racing because GTR1 was 2.99$ at my local EB Games store.
I had a logitech 29.99$ wheel.
Loved it so much I then got a G25 for Christmas and GTR2
Went on to play GTR Evo, Legends, Race 07 to perfect my skills.
I had fun with NFS pro street
And then invested in Project Cars because I wanted sim racing to survive.
I agree that Project Cars was big! It was a fight against ES to keep real sim focused titles coming.
I bought all AC stuff but haven’t played as much as PC2 and ACC.
I also got iRacing for a year. I have the early LMU.
My main right now is AMS2 for the VR.
At the end of the video, you talk about how your mind & thoughts are kinda all over the place, and you therefore struggle to get your thoughts across in a truly linear way. But I think (hand on heart) that is the big appeal of your Channel, GM. As you arguably think like the best parts of all the Sim Racing Games... a little bit of this (eg:- road cars)... a little bit of that (er:- race cars)... and just a little bit RADICAL!!!, hahaha (I mean in the best possible way ; )))
AC EVO also has the expectation to generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in turnover within the Nuremberg ring money pit. I believe all the shops you can drive by in that huge map have the opportunity to make them self's available for contact and bookings, whether that's accommodation, Dining, car hire, track taxis etc. It'll be more than just a sim-cade. I'm hoping the commercial side won't interfere too much while cruising the landscape.
Love your work.
Both PCARS games were the definite simulators back then because we didnt have any proper ones. I had a g25 back then and it was such an amazing experience! Also Sounds were amazing just like the Shift games.
Well did have quite a few sims back then that were and are still more realistic than AMS2/iracing and even PC2 in many ways maybe not on console.
But on PC - LFS,RBR,GTRE,AC,AMS1
It will be if they release a console version. Project Cars is so important because they allowed console players to experience somenthing very close to a simulation
AC EVO should really have mods on console. Console is a HUGE market, and games like Skyrim, Fallout 4 and Baldur's Gate 3 all offer this feature.
Assuming AC EVO does have strong modding support it'd be short sighted not to include it for the console version of the game.
GM said something positive. I think the AC EVO hype has gotten to him and his mind is crumbling
You earned like and meaningless comment for the soggy fish. Well done.
I actually moved to iRacing from GT7.... It just has a lot of people playing online. Thats that. You need an audience
Gran Turismo did brought tons of people to Sim few generations ago, me being One of them.
I can see my self ditching my poor iracing career for finally enjoying a driving sim just for driving.
Project cars 1 and 2 were both decent, as is Project Cars 4 (AMS 2)....
Still drive PC2 more than any of the newer sims for the career paths you can choose. The "GT5" Ginetta Junior suits me well, yes a small child's race car is just the challenge I need!
Unanswered question... What is your hope and dreams for sim racing (/hardcore sim racing)? A lot more players and challenge? Developers invest and making better and better sims? (I hope for that because I play offline only). If the genre does explode and become huge, could it also ruin "it"? Just wondering thoughts.
Original AC is why I build my 'sim rig' (basic, but still feels good), and why I love VR racing too (even though AC VR is not the best or easiest). I love trying a variety of cars and challenges driving them, not into online at all... I want realism and feel... hoping that ACE delivers all of that. I've been playing AC since early access and understand it's going to be a long road ... but that's okay, I'm in for the drive.
Happy driving all. Looking forward to seeing what ACE brings. Fingers tightly crossed 2 days before ea release.
If I won't remember wrong, the PC2 had the Live Track feature as the first one of any other title. And snow. And even in real---time if you wanted for example from the Green Hell (the weather). And that was a huge step progress in the simulator scene.
Push the pedal, the base is very large. One of my first GM videos that i subscribed to unsubscribe to😎 thank you for all the years of entertainment. Peace✌️
fully agreed. there is hype around this game for a reason, and Kunos are yet to disappoint.
I didn’t even realise I was subscribed. Thank god I checked so I could unsubscribe.
I just want to point out that I exist to be wrong. But I am calling it now, the cars we are getting are gonna be models from AC1 like the Miata cup. I'm so jaded by the gaming industry lately that I will not buy into hype until it's in hands. But I remain hopeful
They will have likely used the original models as part of reference but then built on them , Kunos have always put a ton of work and detail into there games they are still quite a "small" company on the grand scheme of things and also have healthy finances from both AC and ACC so are not under the same sort of publisher pressures as some other companies.
EVO is a new graphics engine so they would have had to have re-done a bunch of stuff regardless for shaders , audio , whole host of parameters.
@GamerMuscleVideos AC1 was definitely a love letter to racing. I think the same will be true for Evo and you are right they are a smaller company. ACC was also amazing. But, personally, I'm being cautious, but optimistic. I am getting early access and I have no doubt I will enjoy myself. Thanks for the reply!
Do you know if this game will support logitech g29 wheels?
Yes it will
@@GamerMuscleVideos prrrrraise the lord, thanks
Pronouncing it "assetto corsa evvo" is killing me, it's EE-vo EEEEVO. But I agree ACE has stupid high potential for grabbing a casuals into the deep end.
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PC2 is a simcade, but yes, it's the gateway way drug into proper sims...
Very clever this like to dislike system you have sir. Although there’s a flaw I never seem to unsub.
You mean to say that Assetto Corsa EVO won't be simulation-oriented enough to ultimately stick to that fully 100% simulation approach that completely recreates the physics of cars, tires, tracks, and open roads? :) ;)
No AC Evo is a full on simulator , project cars 2 was designed as a full on simulator you can argue over how much a game then manages that and to what degree.
But both AC Evo and Project cars 2 , manage to appeal to a wider audience due to the licences and the relase on console as well as supporting game pads / having more "game" Structure and aspects to them that make them acessable to wider less mega nurd "simracer"
@@GamerMuscleVideos You're absolutely right. AC Evo will be gateway sim. That's how we'll win them over to our side (sim side) :D
So PC2 was kind off what GT4 was in the 2000s?
PC2 was basically like a standard PC sim but also released on console the developer was trying to make as realistic simulator as possible ( like kunos is with Evo)
nice graphics , good range of content but a focus around more realistic driving.
I think GT is kinda similar but it has a different heritage and culture behind it GT sort of comes from more of a Console approach to simulation and more of a Japanese game design culture and Japanese car culture.
Its really interesting the flavour of these games I think , how MSR and Project Gotham end up being a sort of in-between of the GT style and presentation and then you have the forza 1234 games that again end up being there own thing that's almost like an Americanisation of GT mixed with the PGR feel.
You have lots of the same people working between these different games so you will then get those artistic influences and design aspects blending across games.
Lets go AC Evo
It will have nothing on project cars track list but i hope its good, could just be another forza horizon though.
Best sim for me proably ever. Its a dream come true gt7 like experince for single player experince and progression. Open world with tdu features, full sim in vr with all the strengths of ac and acc in one pakage.
Is it just me that bought a copy of the Curves magazine that they showed in the Christmas preview of Assetto Corsa Evo? Looked like it might have some nice pictures of the area around the Nordschleife, and if not then the pictures look quite nice anyway. (Obviously we don't get the free roam for a few months, but it is nice to look at, init?)
I started pcars2 on Xbox, then moved to pc
I still play PCars2 as my main sim.
I am just hoping that EVO has both time acceleration and the ability to manually set the fuel load for AI races. It is far to difficult to try and find the right AI level and get a consistent pitstop strategy from the ai when doing offline races.
It definitely has time acceleration as that was on during simracing expo demo
....Simply mad
When will you start streaming again, instead of all this craziness 😊
The first AC is available on console already. Tried it years ago and immediately built a PC and a simlab rig havent looked back since. I dont think Evo will go that hard on console since GT7 alreadt exists and people are fine playing that on controller. But I could be very wrong hopefully.
I'm still terrified it'll be a ksp or cities skylines situation. Proven IP with goodwill behind it, long awaited sequel, early access, broken promises.
I can't wait to be proven wrong, really hope I'm wrong.
I think I am your doppelgänger, although I have a better beard, slightly better looking, possibly more intelligent as coffee is better than tea.
Could see EVO being PC2 doppelgänger, although better physics, slightly better looking, possibly more intelligent as oh forget it the AI will be terrible like AC!
I know Assetto Corsa Evo is out soon, When is Assetto Corsa Ehhvo out?
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11:06 -- Homie, you may be talking about ADHD. I lived that life too lol I feel that exactly
Probably I'm not diagnosed with it though but diagnosed dyslexic , lol I still can't write for shit and find a ton of very basic things quite difficult but people are really nice about it and It leads to lots of funny situations so I'm pretty happy with it 😅☕
Let’s be real many of us credit Mario Kart 64 more than anything else for getting us into sim racing a while down the road. 🤪😏
LOL never played it and now found it somehow and started playing! What a game PC2 is! It is just amazing! Snow on Nords in A1 S1.... dream LOL
In 2914, I built a computer JUST for Assetto Corsa. 10 years later, I've built a NEW computer, AND DD rig with an ULTRAWIDE in anticipation of AC EVO. TWO MORE DAYS!!!! I have no problems with Project Cars 1 or 2, but I've been concentrating on Competizione lately
Must be handy owning a time machine
@@GamerMuscleVideos DOH!!!!
If gran turismo was on pc I'd would just have the pc for everything but to have the chance to play them all you need at least a PS4 to go with the pc..vi wish I could just let gt7 go but I can't so it's a pc and PS4 for me.
Maybe, just maybe wait and see first if it's any good? 🤷🏻♂️