Nice review and thanks for the shout out Sandman. I keep my echelon in my laptop bag now. I added the quad combs, bypass driver and decoder from the Arbiter set and slid my spare Riv pick in the pocket for the .025 profiles.
I wish CI sold the Echelon and Genesis tools with just the Echelon case. Now I have this extra Genesis case and have the urge to buy more tools just to fill it. 😉
I have the Echelon set, combined with my Genesis and several other tools. It is comfortably holding 17 picks and 11 turning tools, and I can't be happier with it.
Had a cheap set with the clear locks (tier 4 lol) so me and my kid could fool around with picking. Grabbed the CI Genesis set and some combs, and im hooked on the hobby now. Love the deep dive on tools, companies, quality, etc. Saving up for an Echelon and Arbiter set, in this hobby for the long haul.
Great review as always...I bought my Echelon set around Christmas and absolutely love it! It is my EDC and I use it daily. I have no doubt that it is the best bang for your buck out there...I did manage to get a set of the new JimyLongs ordered yesterday and they should be here Friday...Be safe, be well...Peace!
Thank you for your service and the videos. I just got into lock picking and bought the Genesis. I just now ordered the Echelon after watching this video.
I am currently hacksawing my way through a set of CI Comb picks. It is a hard go but I have started. Tough steel. $20 shipping for $100 product is my minimum, I've put in closer to $200 orders to just make shipping 10%. lol I may get the Echelon at some point, it would go well with the Arbiter set.
I’m a beginner who previously started with some Amazon Chinesium set and acrylic lock, moved onto a new master lock and brinks padlocks, and am hoping to move up the belt ranks soon. My manager expressed some desire to learn to pick, so I gifted him my old set and used it as an excuse to buy the Genesis, Echelon, and a couple of decoders to stick in there. They come tomorrow and I couldn’t be more excited. Just joined the reddit and discord as well so hopefully I’ll see ya in there soon! Central Texas here as well btw. Thanks for the greats vids.
I love the Echelon set, I've got a ton of Covert stuff and I love em. I love my Law Lock as well they fit my big hands better. But put a little Heat Shrink on my Coverts and they are awesome. I took a bunch of my Covert Tools and put the Southord sleeves over them and they are crazy comfortable.
The Echelon is defiantly something I wan to to acquire at some point I own the genesis and look forward to one day owning more of his stuff. Great video by the way.
Like I've said time and time again, I have both the Genesis and Echelon, and those two sets combined feel like the only tools I'll ever need (for tackling pin tumbler locks anyway)! I do want to round out my collection with the combs and Arbiter tools eventually, but once I spring the money for them I'm certain I'll have no regrets!
Still a wannabe here but gotta say thanks so much for saving me tons of $$$. Your reviews let me get the last one first instead of going down the trial-and-error path. I picked up the echelon set shortly after your not a review review then the arbiter set during their holiday sale. Thanks for getting me a great start on the gear....now I just need to work on skill.
That’s great! Isn’t that arbiter set cool as hell?! I need more practice with it because I’m always picking locks and not bypassing them it if I love that I have it
I ordered the genesis echelon and comb pick set last Friday can’t wait. I love the smooth thin profile on the coverts. I started on an fng lol ❤ thanks for the great review sandman!
Got JimyLongs basic set today! Fixing to try them out. Only gripe with CI is their tubular 7.8mm impressioning tool. It's too small and has a crack where the 7 pin tension rod goes. Plus they want answer my email. Be nice if you could buy individual popsicle picks too. Got in info on "The Vault"? Multipick is my favorite overall for though.
Nice review, and i think you are close to my choices. My mostly recommended pickset for beginners is... ... An Echelon... ...combined with a... ...Genesis. Yes, that's your choice, what you made earlier. However i have a lot of Multipick sets, but i have never opened my MP beginners set, it stands in its factory sealed bag in the depth one of my pick chests. Like the LockNoob edition. I just won them, but they weren't ever opened. But i am totally sure, that the Klom Navigator is one of the best beginner sets of the world, and many millions were sold from that. Ok, it bends, it breaks, but always has something to offer what can go trough the warding. Ok, i shut my mouth, coz' its almost Picking Time 😏
Hey Sandman, thank you for your review! I was hoping I could ask you a question about what I should buy. I am a little new to lockpicking and I was wondering if I should buy the Genesis set first and then move onto this set or if I should just buy this set. The picks and tension tools included in the set look pretty similar, and I would hate to waste money buying the same thing twice. Thank you very much!
if you are new, you want the genesis, because you will tend to be heavy handed, and genesis tools are .025" thick, perfect for beginners, however due to their thickness they are limiting. if you have picked a lock before, and your not bending your tools on a regular basis, then you can definitely get into the echelon. however both sets compliment each other for one giant set. but you could skip the genesis if you have a month or more of experience. but if you are more advanced, Covert will be releasing new tools this summer, but advanced pickers. with handles. you cant go wrong either way.
I have to say, I really enjoy your reviews. I wish there was something I could do for your locksport journey (unfortunately I dont have the skills like you mentioned where the guy helped you design the lock tags) where you would send me some covert companion pick sets. I love their stuff. Eventually going to purchase their various sets. I agree, the beat sparrows hands down.
Bro i sadly have the same problem that u have with multipick. I live in Germeny and i would love to order someting from convert Instruments from the Us. Sadly they want shipping costs up to 70$ for shipping to Germany
I gotta stop watching these. 😂 And CI needs to kick you a commission. I’ve bought too many of their items now based on your videos! Don’t get me wrong. Really fine products and great for everyday use. But I’m going broke over here! 😂 Happy I’ve found them…because of your videos.
Hey Sandman, I saw on the site recently they have the Echelon case, they call it the Garrison case in Black. I know you like Black better than OD, or FDE whatever you wanna call the case it comes in.
Olá Sandman, estou fazendo parte ou já estou escrito no seu canal, gostei muito da sua explicação sobre esses conjuntos de ferramentas da coberta instrumentos, como eu faço para comprar esse conjunto de ferramentas da coberta instruments em sua mão, espero uma resposta positiva sua.
Olá Sandman, tudo bem, como eu faço para comprar ou adquirir a ferramenta Echelon pick set da covert instruments, eu estou tentando entrar no site da covert instruments para comprar esse ferramenta, mas esse site está indisponível para o Brasil, país onde eu moro, como você pode me ajudar na venda dessa ferramenta!!
I picked up the Genesis & Echelon sets last week. Total nube & LPL addict. 1st day I picked my TSA luggage lock, Master lock #3, and Schlage front door. How in the heck should a total nube (with the right tools) be able to do that? 😮
I purchased mine after seeing your previous review. It's just too bad they only use USPS to deliver your items. I would of gladly paid an extra $30 if it meant I would be getting my pics. Now I'll never know just gow good these pics are 😢 RIP my echelon set picks courtesy of USPS
@@sandman_locksport I completely ditched my sparrows gear, except for the mimi jim tool. I added the CI credit card latch slip to the Echelon case. I added the Sparrows mini jim tool to my pocket pouch with a lighter, pen, flashlight, knife, the CI Slim Pickings, and a SWICK. When meeting with friends to pick, I toss my LLT Valyrian and Valyrian Euro sets (which I have in a nice leather zipper case) in my sling too. But it's way overkill for EDC.
@@sandman_locksport I love them. Thought about handles for them, but honestly... I love that both thicknesses fit comfortably in my Southern Specialties leather zipper case that is thinner than the Echelon case, and only slightly wider. 🤷♂️
@@sandman_locksport that said, they are far more thin (vertically) profiles. I've never been a heavy handed picker. I'm an electronics technician. If anything, I sometimes don't use enough tension. I find myself having to increase tension because I'm not getting any binding pins.
Correction, they were never illegal, you only thought they were, as did most locksmiths.States may vary, but they are only prohibited to carry in 3 states out of 50. In Texas and Colorado, both states I have operated as a locksmith in, the law is clear. It is not against the law to own, possess or carry these tools unless while committing a felony or a crime. Picks are just tools. No more dangerous than a hammer or a screwdriver. I also carry these on airplanes and openly pick locks in public. I took them on international flights to Mexico too. Come to find out, the only people restricting these tools, are crusty locksmiths with 30 years of experience. At least, that’s what I learned while I was in the police academy. Things never changed. Just the people interpreting the laws. Thank you for watching.
@@sandman_locksport didn’t need to be a dick in your reply. It was an honest question. And I wasn’t interpreting the law. I come from Illinois originally, so: In Illinois: (b) A person commits the offense of unlawful sale of burglary tools when he or she knowingly sells or transfers any key, including a key designed for lock bumping, or a lock pick specifically manufactured or altered for use in breaking into a building, housetrailer, watercraft, aircraft, motor vehicle, railroad car, or ...
Thank you, that’s kind of you. I’ll keep that in mind. CI is about to release some new tools though with handles and that’s probably what I will use. Moving forward when they are released.
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Nice review and thanks for the shout out Sandman. I keep my echelon in my laptop bag now. I added the quad combs, bypass driver and decoder from the Arbiter set and slid my spare Riv pick in the pocket for the .025 profiles.
Love the echelon! I combined my arbiter set with my echelon set in the trifold case, and it fits perfectly with no issues.
I love the ergo turners that came in the echelon kit. I even moved them to the zipper case I carry in my backpack with my jimy longs.
I wish CI sold the Echelon and Genesis tools with just the Echelon case. Now I have this extra Genesis case and have the urge to buy more tools just to fill it. 😉
Me too!
That's the point of it. 🤣 That's done on purpose. Marketing 😜
I have the Echelon set, combined with my Genesis and several other tools. It is comfortably holding 17 picks and 11 turning tools, and I can't be happier with it.
You are a man among men.
Hahaha do you think he gets it?@@sandman_locksport
😂😂😂😂@@sandman_locksport
Had a cheap set with the clear locks (tier 4 lol) so me and my kid could fool around with picking. Grabbed the CI Genesis set and some combs, and im hooked on the hobby now. Love the deep dive on tools, companies, quality, etc. Saving up for an Echelon and Arbiter set, in this hobby for the long haul.
New to the sport and CI is my go to company. The Echelon is a great set. Great vid
Great review as always...I bought my Echelon set around Christmas and absolutely love it! It is my EDC and I use it daily. I have no doubt that it is the best bang for your buck out there...I did manage to get a set of the new JimyLongs ordered yesterday and they should be here Friday...Be safe, be well...Peace!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your service and the videos. I just got into lock picking and bought the Genesis. I just now ordered the Echelon after watching this video.
I am currently hacksawing my way through a set of CI Comb picks. It is a hard go but I have started. Tough steel. $20 shipping for $100 product is my minimum, I've put in closer to $200 orders to just make shipping 10%. lol I may get the Echelon at some point, it would go well with the Arbiter set.
I’m a beginner who previously started with some Amazon Chinesium set and acrylic lock, moved onto a new master lock and brinks padlocks, and am hoping to move up the belt ranks soon. My manager expressed some desire to learn to pick, so I gifted him my old set and used it as an excuse to buy the Genesis, Echelon, and a couple of decoders to stick in there. They come tomorrow and I couldn’t be more excited. Just joined the reddit and discord as well so hopefully I’ll see ya in there soon! Central Texas here as well btw. Thanks for the greats vids.
There's a discord? Can I get the name or inv?
Another good review. You are so right about Georgia Jim, if you haven’t seen his pick through the belts with the riv pick you’re doing it wrong.
I love the Echelon set, I've got a ton of Covert stuff and I love em. I love my Law Lock as well they fit my big hands better. But put a little Heat Shrink on my Coverts and they are awesome.
I took a bunch of my Covert Tools and put the Southord sleeves over them and they are crazy comfortable.
The Echelon is defiantly something I wan to to acquire at some point I own the genesis and look forward to one day owning more of his stuff. Great video by the way.
Thanks for watching
Like I've said time and time again, I have both the Genesis and Echelon, and those two sets combined feel like the only tools I'll ever need (for tackling pin tumbler locks anyway)! I do want to round out my collection with the combs and Arbiter tools eventually, but once I spring the money for them I'm certain I'll have no regrets!
Still a wannabe here but gotta say thanks so much for saving me tons of $$$. Your reviews let me get the last one first instead of going down the trial-and-error path. I picked up the echelon set shortly after your not a review review then the arbiter set during their holiday sale. Thanks for getting me a great start on the gear....now I just need to work on skill.
That’s great! Isn’t that arbiter set cool as hell?! I need more practice with it because I’m always picking locks and not bypassing them it if I love that I have it
I ordered the genesis echelon and comb pick set last Friday can’t wait. I love the smooth thin profile on the coverts. I started on an fng lol ❤ thanks for the great review sandman!
Got JimyLongs basic set today! Fixing to try them out. Only gripe with CI is their tubular 7.8mm impressioning tool. It's too small and has a crack where the 7 pin tension rod goes. Plus they want answer my email. Be nice if you could buy individual popsicle picks too. Got in info on "The Vault"? Multipick is my favorite overall for though.
They don’t tell me anything. I don’t know them any better than any other company. I’m just a customer and a collector like you
@sandman_locksport Like you say, I'm not rich, just irresponsible!
I had no issue getting replacement parts from CI when my order came flawed. Try giving them another e-mail.
Enjoyed your review! 🥇
I have and love this set. Combined with the genesis & arbiter I don’t think it’s missing anything for its intended purpose.
Thank you for your service
I really hope you like the art. It was a pleasure working with you.
Didn’t recognize you! I love it! Your tools will go out this week!
Nice review, and i think you are close to my choices. My mostly recommended pickset for beginners is...
...
An Echelon...
...combined with a...
...Genesis.
Yes, that's your choice, what you made earlier.
However i have a lot of Multipick sets, but i have never opened my MP beginners set, it stands in its factory sealed bag in the depth one of my pick chests. Like the LockNoob edition. I just won them, but they weren't ever opened.
But i am totally sure, that the Klom Navigator is one of the best beginner sets of the world, and many millions were sold from that. Ok, it bends, it breaks, but always has something to offer what can go trough the warding.
Ok, i shut my mouth, coz' its almost Picking Time 😏
Hey Sandman, thank you for your review! I was hoping I could ask you a question about what I should buy. I am a little new to lockpicking and I was wondering if I should buy the Genesis set first and then move onto this set or if I should just buy this set. The picks and tension tools included in the set look pretty similar, and I would hate to waste money buying the same thing twice. Thank you very much!
if you are new, you want the genesis, because you will tend to be heavy handed, and genesis tools are .025" thick, perfect for beginners, however due to their thickness they are limiting. if you have picked a lock before, and your not bending your tools on a regular basis, then you can definitely get into the echelon. however both sets compliment each other for one giant set. but you could skip the genesis if you have a month or more of experience. but if you are more advanced, Covert will be releasing new tools this summer, but advanced pickers. with handles. you cant go wrong either way.
I really like covert instruments too, I’m working with my son in law and his friends to make 3 d printed handles mostly for fun
Dude that’s awesome! I would love to see those when they are done
You bet
I have to say, I really enjoy your reviews. I wish there was something I could do for your locksport journey (unfortunately I dont have the skills like you mentioned where the guy helped you design the lock tags) where you would send me some covert companion pick sets. I love their stuff. Eventually going to purchase their various sets. I agree, the beat sparrows hands down.
I’m glad you liked the videos. Thank you very much for watching.
Nice review sandman ❤always the best and up to date info and facts 👌 love ya brooo
I'm not a locksmith but I thought I was the only one that carry the echelon pick set.
Good review. 🐾🐈⬛👍
Thanks Chris!
Very good reviews that you do
Bro i sadly have the same problem that u have with multipick. I live in Germeny and i would love to order someting from convert Instruments from the Us. Sadly they want shipping costs up to 70$ for shipping to Germany
I gotta stop watching these. 😂 And CI needs to kick you a commission. I’ve bought too many of their items now based on your videos! Don’t get me wrong. Really fine products and great for everyday use. But I’m going broke over here! 😂 Happy I’ve found them…because of your videos.
I’m definitely putting somebody’s kid over there into college with all of my purchases lol
Hey Sandman, I saw on the site recently they have the Echelon case, they call it the Garrison case in Black. I know you like Black better than OD, or FDE whatever you wanna call the case it comes in.
More good content. Thanks sandman.
Olá Sandman, estou fazendo parte ou já estou escrito no seu canal, gostei muito da sua explicação sobre esses conjuntos de ferramentas da coberta instrumentos, como eu faço para comprar esse conjunto de ferramentas da coberta instruments em sua mão, espero uma resposta positiva sua.
Olá Sandman, tudo bem, como eu faço para comprar ou adquirir a ferramenta Echelon pick set da covert instruments, eu estou tentando entrar no site da covert instruments para comprar esse ferramenta, mas esse site está indisponível para o Brasil, país onde eu moro, como você pode me ajudar na venda dessa ferramenta!!
With your new everyday carry set up, do you miss your covert companion that’s comes with the arbitar lock pics?
Not really because I never need to use it. Just nice to have in you
I picked up the Genesis & Echelon sets last week. Total nube & LPL addict. 1st day I picked my TSA luggage lock, Master lock #3, and Schlage front door. How in the heck should a total nube (with the right tools) be able to do that? 😮
That’s great. Took me 18 hours to pick my first lock.
Where did you get the morale patches? I like the hand holding the pick.😛😍
From their website
Great review, nice one Sandman
I just ordered a Companion and now i wish i bought this instead with some extras.
GREAT DETAILED VIDEO!
I purchased mine after seeing your previous review. It's just too bad they only use USPS to deliver your items. I would of gladly paid an extra $30 if it meant I would be getting my pics. Now I'll never know just gow good these pics are 😢 RIP my echelon set picks courtesy of USPS
agree
@@richardroos4301 yep, confirmed. just lost $190 worth of pics because of USPS incompetence. Just gonna avoid USPS in the future. Lesson learned.
This was my first set purchase after a cheap chinese tool set
Hey man. Nice review. Do you bring your tools in your carry on, or do they make you put them in your checked bags?
Carry on, even to Mexico
@@sandman_locksport I completely ditched my sparrows gear, except for the mimi jim tool. I added the CI credit card latch slip to the Echelon case.
I added the Sparrows mini jim tool to my pocket pouch with a lighter, pen, flashlight, knife, the CI Slim Pickings, and a SWICK.
When meeting with friends to pick, I toss my LLT Valyrian and Valyrian Euro sets (which I have in a nice leather zipper case) in my sling too. But it's way overkill for EDC.
@@BigPoppaR I need to try those valerian picks someday
@@sandman_locksport I love them. Thought about handles for them, but honestly... I love that both thicknesses fit comfortably in my Southern Specialties leather zipper case that is thinner than the Echelon case, and only slightly wider. 🤷♂️
@@sandman_locksport that said, they are far more thin (vertically) profiles. I've never been a heavy handed picker. I'm an electronics technician. If anything, I sometimes don't use enough tension. I find myself having to increase tension because I'm not getting any binding pins.
Locksmith for 30+ years. I remember when it was illegal to purchase picksets unless you were licensed. When did this end?
Correction, they were never illegal, you only thought they were, as did most locksmiths.States may vary, but they are only prohibited to carry in 3 states out of 50. In Texas and Colorado, both states I have operated as a locksmith in, the law is clear. It is not against the law to own, possess or carry these tools unless while committing a felony or a crime. Picks are just tools. No more dangerous than a hammer or a screwdriver. I also carry these on airplanes and openly pick locks in public. I took them on international flights to Mexico too. Come to find out, the only people restricting these tools, are crusty locksmiths with 30 years of experience.
At least, that’s what I learned while I was in the police academy. Things never changed. Just the people interpreting the laws. Thank you for watching.
@@sandman_locksport didn’t need to be a dick in your reply. It was an honest question. And I wasn’t interpreting the law. I come from Illinois originally, so: In Illinois: (b) A person commits the offense of unlawful sale of burglary tools when he or she knowingly sells or transfers any key, including a key designed for lock bumping, or a lock pick specifically manufactured or altered for use in breaking into a building, housetrailer, watercraft, aircraft, motor vehicle, railroad car, or ...
What do you reckon would be the best practice locks for someone who is getting into lock picking? Security pin wise
@@Somebody3120 check out lpubeltsdotcom.
Do you think they should have just added the set of 4 comb picks to the arbiter set
The one pic i actually broke was a Sparrows.
9:30 😂😂😂
Does CI give you any discount codes?
Nope. Nothing yet. But where I lack in skill, I make up for in credit card debt.
@@sandman_locksport LMAO!!
@@sandman_locksport On behalf of all your subscribers, I thank you for all you share
I agree on sparrows..I bought a set and am not impressed at all!
I can laser engrave your logo on those tags for you if you like
Thank you, that’s kind of you. I’ll keep that in mind. CI is about to release some new tools though with handles and that’s probably what I will use. Moving forward when they are released.
I was referring to laser engraving your logo on the challenge tags for you@@sandman_locksport
É covert instruments e não cobert
Covert is the name. Like stealth is what it means. Quiet etc.
will you give me an echelon set if I like and sub? 😂
Where are they made ?