Thanks, I get the lack of subs, hi-sec is very niche and I just started doing reviews and stuff just recently. I plan on doing more gear reviews and tutorials on locks people commonly have problems with.
@@georgiajim2260 tutorials would be an excellent addition. Consumer culture probably means reviews will get you more subs but the locksport community could use another teaching patriarch now that Bill isn’t posting vids anymore. LPL used to post tutorial vids but his 3 minute vids are now geared toward the short attention span of the masses.
i don't understand the utility of the card in this kind of kit. CI don't sell any tool that can program it , they better provide a jim or an edc card like the sparrows one to make shim.
Nice detailed review. Thanks. I wished they made some of those picks available for individual purchase to either round out a set or replace one if damaged.
I made handles for mine and now I use it more than my Sparrows which i only use for the unique profiles. The tension set is top notch. It's tuff choosing between these and the Jimy Longs. I love them both.
I've combined this with my Genesis set, and it really does feel like the ultimate package for picking pin tumbler locks--the only thing I'm missing now is the skills to unleash the tools' full potential! I do wonder if I could eventually learn to pull off some zipping shenanigans with the double peak rake...
I don’t have the genesis so just added the riv to the echelon set. You have the tools time to practice. There are no advanced techniques just well polished fundamentals.
Great review. I wish they sold thier picks individually. I think the $70 price tag is a bit hefty. I mean its not over priced but i think its borderline. I would definitely be really hesitant to buy another set if I happened to bend or break one of the picks or rakes.
Absolutely agree. Individual picks are a must for any company that wants to do right by their customers. $70 is on the high end imo also but with the amount of tok tensioners added and tubular stuff added in i thinks it’s a versatile kit. Definitely not for guys chasing belts (which is could work) but most pure locksport pickers want more hook variety.
@georgiajim2260 I see that. Also CI isn't geared toward the Locksport side as much either. They are geared toward EDC, First responder non destructive quick entry, and covert entry. I like their products, though.
Vom Slimpick und vom Companion bin ich nicht so begeistert zu dick für die meisten Schlösser in Europa und die Niete beim Riv ist qualtitaiv auch kein Statement.. die Idee hat mich damals begeistert darum habe ich es bestellt, vielleicht kommt mal einens für denn Europäischen Markt raus was bei uns passt. Es Echelon werde ich mal testen wenn wieder ein Sale ist. I'm not that keen on the Slimpick and the Companion. They're too thick for most locks in Europe and the rivet on the Riv isn't a qualitative statement either. The idea excited me at the time, so I ordered it and tried to use it as often as possible, but the picks are too thick and don't fit into many locks here. Maybe one will come out for the European market that suits us. I'll test Echelon when there's another sale. But it's too expensive for me
That’s a fair assessment as far as the thickness impacting the ability to pick. For European customers there are cheaper options like multipick, moki and lawlock too.
I mixed the stuff from the arbiter into the echelon for the stuff I’m most likely to use and will be tossing it in my laptop bag. I got the same bypass stuff coming for the slim pickings handles to build a vehicle kit
I was mainly using Peterson and Jimy long picks with much larger handles before using this set and definitely understand that. Took me a little while to get used to the smaller handles. For edc gear I prefer the smaller handles so I can have more kit in the case but for casual and longer picking sessions the larger handles are far more comfortable.
I prefer the black one for looks but they hold quite a bit. After the video i put a bunch of the bypass stuff in there and it still fits nice and flat.
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Top notch picking hombre. It’s crazy you have less than 1k subscribers…doubt it will stay that way with such thorough reviews as this. 🔓
Thanks, I get the lack of subs, hi-sec is very niche and I just started doing reviews and stuff just recently. I plan on doing more gear reviews and tutorials on locks people commonly have problems with.
@@georgiajim2260 tutorials would be an excellent addition. Consumer culture probably means reviews will get you more subs but the locksport community could use another teaching patriarch now that Bill isn’t posting vids anymore. LPL used to post tutorial vids but his 3 minute vids are now geared toward the short attention span of the masses.
You genuinely make picking look so easy. I guess that's what comes from YEARS of practice and experience. Badass
Thanks!
Great review! thanks for this
Thanks for checking it out
i don't understand the utility of the card in this kind of kit. CI don't sell any tool that can program it , they better provide a jim or an edc card like the sparrows one to make shim.
@@TheGuilev agreed, I tossed the card and put their latch slipper in there.
I just dropped my wallet on the CI Genesis, Echelon, Arbiter, and Quad comb set... I may never financially recover lol
They just had a flash sale for memorial day too. $20 for Genesis and $60 for the Arbiter.
Nice. I got this set straight away after I got the genesis set. Love both. Great vid.
I don’t have the genesis but I tossed the spare riv pick in to have the .025 profiles
Nice detailed review. Thanks.
I wished they made some of those picks available for individual purchase to either round out a set or replace one if damaged.
Agreed, being able to build your own set would be great.
They just added that to the site! Under chop shop
I made handles for mine and now I use it more than my Sparrows which i only use for the unique profiles. The tension set is top notch. It's tuff choosing between these and the Jimy Longs. I love them both.
I've combined this with my Genesis set, and it really does feel like the ultimate package for picking pin tumbler locks--the only thing I'm missing now is the skills to unleash the tools' full potential!
I do wonder if I could eventually learn to pull off some zipping shenanigans with the double peak rake...
I don’t have the genesis so just added the riv to the echelon set.
You have the tools time to practice. There are no advanced techniques just well polished fundamentals.
Great video/review! It's sad but sparrows definitely has took a downard trend in quality control.
I have older stuff that’s still holding up but after my last couple purchases I can’t give them more money
Great review. I wish they sold thier picks individually. I think the $70 price tag is a bit hefty. I mean its not over priced but i think its borderline. I would definitely be really hesitant to buy another set if I happened to bend or break one of the picks or rakes.
Absolutely agree. Individual picks are a must for any company that wants to do right by their customers. $70 is on the high end imo also but with the amount of tok tensioners added and tubular stuff added in i thinks it’s a versatile kit. Definitely not for guys chasing belts (which is could work) but most pure locksport pickers want more hook variety.
@georgiajim2260 I see that. Also CI isn't geared toward the Locksport side as much either. They are geared toward EDC, First responder non destructive quick entry, and covert entry. I like their products, though.
Vom Slimpick und vom Companion bin ich nicht so begeistert zu dick für die meisten Schlösser in Europa und die Niete beim Riv ist qualtitaiv auch kein Statement.. die Idee hat mich damals begeistert darum habe ich es bestellt, vielleicht kommt mal einens für denn Europäischen Markt raus was bei uns passt.
Es Echelon werde ich mal testen wenn wieder ein Sale ist.
I'm not that keen on the Slimpick and the Companion. They're too thick for most locks in Europe and the rivet on the Riv isn't a qualitative statement either. The idea excited me at the time, so I ordered it and tried to use it as often as possible, but the picks are too thick and don't fit into many locks here. Maybe one will come out for the European market that suits us.
I'll test Echelon when there's another sale. But it's too expensive for me
That’s a fair assessment as far as the thickness impacting the ability to pick. For European customers there are cheaper options like multipick, moki and lawlock too.
Nice
Good stuff! Subbed
Excellent review! This is my EDC now that I carry a sling bag everywhere I go.
I mixed the stuff from the arbiter into the echelon for the stuff I’m most likely to use and will be tossing it in my laptop bag. I got the same bypass stuff coming for the slim pickings handles to build a vehicle kit
Really nice video.I purchsed this et last week.For me I found the handles to small over so I sent them.
I was mainly using Peterson and Jimy long picks with much larger handles before using this set and definitely understand that.
Took me a little while to get used to the smaller handles. For edc gear I prefer the smaller handles so I can have more kit in the case but for casual and longer picking sessions the larger handles are far more comfortable.
That case is dang nice looking
I prefer the black one for looks but they hold quite a bit. After the video i put a bunch of the bypass stuff in there and it still fits nice and flat.
@@georgiajim2260 I like the trifold aspect of it. Do they sell just cases?
@@lockolot6704 yeah
Really good review. The medeco fell open. Nice set.
LOL thanks, I included more for the fact that I probably had 90% of the rotations set from the start just by scrambling the pins
Jolly good and interesting review 👍
Cheers and all the best 👍 🍻🍻🍻
Thanks! Really appreciate the support
Great review and insights. 😃🐈⬛🐾👍👏🍻
Thanks Chris
Nice review. They do have great tension tools.
Thanks, they really are. The single sided ergo turner for the case are a really well thought out touch
Thanks
It’s an excellent pick set.
Como faço para comprar esse kit ? Envia para o Brasil ?
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