I Installed RICHARD BURNS RALLY in 2023 and... it's MADNESS!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2023
- Hi guys! I installed Richard Burns Rally about a week ago.
I've heard so many things about this game. The best car physics. The closest thing to rally simulation. Rally enthusiasts say as one:
"This is the best rally game! Ever!"
So I installed the game and now I can say - it's madness...
Links:
Rallysimfans web site - rallysimfans.hu
Rallysimfans (RSF) installation - rallysimfans.hu/rbr/download.php?download=rsfrbr
Bob's Track Builder Files - racedepartment.com/forums/bobs-track-builder-files.163/
Bob's Track Builder Pro - store.steampowered.com/app/993270/Bobs_Track_Builder_Pro/
#RBR #ImagineRacer #Rally - เกม
Believe me, man, if you want to truly experience physics difference, buy a wheel, you will instantly uderstand why RBR is superior.
I want to believe. Yep, playing with a controller, it feels like the full potential of the game will be revealed using the steering wheel. I'm saving up money for a decent setup.
@@imagineracer The good thing with the RBR is that you don't need a DD wheel to play, it has very good feeling even with the G25 because the game code is so good and optimized that you don't need a DD wheel, but if you have the money is good to by a DD wheel, you won't be playing RBR only
Belive me man, not everyone has thousands of dollars to waste
@@KazumiYoshida- kek, ye I spent 100500 $ on my thrustmaster t300
@@AnaICarnaval you do know im being sarcastic right? i fo know pc is better, its just not everyone can have one even if they saved. Main reasoning is, bills, gas money, house repairs, car repairs etc, plus, food.
They've done a miraculous job on the physics and the game itself, but for me the beating heart of Rallysimfans is the community and the online rallies.
The online rallies are such a cool feature. Can't beat the adrenaline rush when you cross a timer and see that you are a second behind the leader
@@slipknotfan2217 I tend to nowhere near be that good 🤣
I try and focus on keeping a "clean slate" of completed rallies - I'm very proud of my green ticks.
Thats what happens when you get out of the office and gather real world data on stages and cars. Which is what the RBR team did originally.
You need a wheel man when u put on the clutch and give it everything and feel the ffb from it makes it 100x better
@@goodlookinouthomie1757sorry man this was for the guy who did the video didn't realise I was in your comments haha
4:30 i disagree. i find it intuitive, the car moves predictably, based on physics, so the learning curve is a bit higher at first but the muscle memory builds coherently.
2:00 that wasnt slightest touch of the tree xD
RBR is still king! Love this game.
Long live RBR!🫡
in rbr third person camera should trigger uninstall.
I don't think so. At some stages third person camera doesn't work properly, yes, but most of the time it's not that bad. It's enjoyable enough in my opinion.
To the "DR tarmac is too slippery" - Its not the overall grip, its that the rear wheels are like shopping cart casters. The overall grip is pretty damn high, but the immense front grip vs none at the rear makes cars slide through every single turn, cause thats what you have to be doing there.
"the immense front grip vs none at the rear makes cars slide through every single turn" interesting, I never thought about the details of the incorrect sliding on tarmac in DR, thanks.
I call this "OCP" office chair physics.
@imagineracer doesn't help you're using buttons to control throttle and brakes
@@andyp7109 Definitely this.
@@imagineracerThe car in DR2.0 has a central pivot point, real cars, and good sims have the pivot point on the rear axle.
5:49 WTF man?! You tellin that tarmac is slippy too and showing us when you sliding on gravel tyres. xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
LOL! True xD
Xd , he atleast feeling it ;)
to understrand how real rbr is you need to have a wheel instead of a controler
Most fans of RBR agree with your opinion. And buying a steering wheel is already more than my dream. But there are also opinions that with a controller you can both enjoy this game and get good results.
Now you're in the simulation world, it's time to drive in cockpit view 😀
I play in cockpit view too, especially in RBR, but cockpit view can't compare with the chase camera in terms of visuals. Unfortunately the chase cam is not the strongest aspect of RBR.
Chase is decent for controller but once you go wheel it's cockpit or bumper cam all day
@@Radgerayden-ist And manual gear box makes a world of difference..
@@nospoon4799 oh yeah I find manual loads of fun. But I don't drive irl and use auto clutch
@@Radgerayden-ist I drive a manual irl. Auto clutch in game for playability as I find video game clutches very poor. I find it easier to drive without the auto box flapping around between gears. Much easier to hold a drift etc. Plus you can time your changes much better.
Yeah... If u want to truly experience the physics difference, buy a wheel.. Trust me on wheel this game is much much better than any Dirt game or even the new WRC from EA...
I'm on it, thanks.
There is no realism with a controller though LOL. RBR is all about the wheel in your hand and the wheels under your bum. Not that you can clip through trees or crash strange.
"Not that you can clip through trees or crash strange" I didn't say that it is a deal-breaker. Just some nuances related to the game. Similar things can be found in modern games.
Cockpit view and steering wheel preferably here. I got it, I really did. Nobody can take that away from the game.
But why RBR fans refuse rally fans who only have a controller to find something of their own in this game?
I liked the game with a controller. That's exactly what I said in the video.
Yes, perhaps RBR ceases to be the king in this role. But who cares?
Don't be greedy, let gamers with a controller try to enjoy this game too)
@imagineracer No offense intended. I use a controller with forza horizon. And only recently bought a steering wheel to play some rally titles again. Back in the day when I played richard burns, it very quickly became apparent that the road surfaces were the main part of the rally sim. It was completely designed around force feedback and understanding when you are losing or gaining grip and when you have the gutter of the track available to pull you through a corner and other rally skills. It probably is the most physics heavy rally I've ever played. In the community back and the day was very quick to point that out. Dirt rally and dirt rally 2 are great games as well, but they are not the type of simulator richard burns is. So I know it will be very difficult to play Richard burns with a controller from experience. But it doesn't mean it can't be fun. Just not as easy to be successful.
None taken anyway. Oh thanks, cool to read about your experience with the controller. I can't wait to try this game using the steering wheel. Well, for now I don’t have such an opportunity, I’ll try to get the most out of it using a controller.
@@imagineracerI think a wheel can be a bit annoying at times as well. A controller is chill, lean back just race without all this extra work. I could definitely see myself own a wheel soon and still go back to controller now and then
You can adjust the input of the gamepad on the filters seccion ..to make your gamepad more drivable
Thanks, already did this. It got a lot better.
I suggest investing in a wheel buddy. Any wheel from a G29 and up. The Cammus wheel and pedals are about 300. For a direct drive wheel. This will become a whole different beast. And you’ll love it.
Thanks for the tips! I'm considering MOZA Racing R5 at the moment. One of the most affordable direct drive options.
@@imagineracer anything that isn’t a joypad/stick. Think this way, if you had a car steering wheel with the degrees of movement a joypad has, with a rumble motor, could you drive with it? I’m guessing, but there can’t be more than 90 degrees of movement in a stick, vs 900 and force feedback on a Logitech g29.
@@seebarry4068 I have both wheel and pad and I still prefer pad for rally games. Much easier to do quick corrections on a stick than throwing the wheel around, not to mention it gets more tiring.
@@seebarry4068 900° is good for truck driving. IIRC rally cars use ~540°. For F1 you will use below 400°.
@@ElShogoso Games, not sims.
hello, gamepad (controller) user here. To make your steering more manageable you must set the filter settings of it so steering didnt feel too jerky
I did that. Thanks. Interestingly, I cranked the settings to crazy levels compared to other games, and yes, it became much more convenient to control powerful cars.
Man you give me Werglia vibes. Great content
Thanks!
You can play NBA on the pad, or at least Forza or NFS.
To understand how good RBR is, you need to have a steering wheel.
It's unbelievable that we haven't gotten anything better in 20 years.
I will definitely make another video, and review of RBR physics when I acquire a decent setup.
Are the Codemasters games really that bad with the steering wheel?
It's just hard to believe. How can this be?
@@imagineracer Generally speaking, the point is that all these WRC games play very well with a gamepad.
Because they are made to satisfy the vast majority of players who play on pads.
No one does simulations because there is too small a market for it to be profitable.
Another thing is the fact that people who play simulators like RBR or iRacing are not really interested in the appearance itself.
Because it's not about appearance, it's about driving physics.
And creating a simulator with not very demanding graphics but realistic physics will not artificially boost the graphics card and processor market.
Because let's face it, games don't look any better now than games from 5 years ago, and the price of graphics cards has doubled in that time.
This new WRC is uglier than Dirt Rally and has much higher requirements 🤣🤣🤣
Coming back to the topic, RBR or the first Dirt Rally on a gamepad can be played, but it's not a great pleasure.
That's why Dirt Rally 2.0 was much more arcade-like because people were discouraged by the fact that it was too difficult.
And again, real rally fanatics have RBR, which is very susceptible to MODs and is still very popular.
That's why there hasn't been, and won't be, a real rally simulator with realistic physics because you can't make money from it 🤷
Thanks for the clarification, it is very useful for understanding your vision of the situation. I’m glad to agree with everything you said and don’t want to argue, but I can’t resist asking counter questions.
Richard Burns Rally wasn't originally created for commercial purposes?
I have repeatedly come across the opinion (I cannot cite a specific source, but I am internally sure that I heard it from someone from the Codemasters company in some interview or press release) that they deliberately divided the Dirt series into two directions:
1) Dirt games (Dirt 3,4,5) this is an absolute, honest simcade for a wide audience. Marketing, commerce, advertising everything is aimed at entertaining people.
2) Dirt Rally and Dirt Rally 2.0 - an attempt to make a decent simulator for rally fans like you, like me.
Do you think they failed? Or is this division just a marketing ploy to simply try to make money on all the racing fans?
@@imagineracer Generally speaking, this is a river topic.
As for RBR.
Yes, it's obvious that it was created for commercial purposes.
But in fact, everything in the world is created for such purposes.
Even the best professional simulations are created by external companies in order to then sell them, for example to F1 teams, so that their drivers can train.
Well, our human world revolves around money 🤷
But back to the topic.
RBR was created at a time when SimRacing was really just in its infancy.
I had already had a steering wheel for some time then, but probably about 99% of car players didn't.
And that was the point: to create a product that would change the situation.
That's why RBR was created in cooperation with Logitech and was a kind of determinant of what FFB technology can do and how it changes the entire game.
He was like that and no one took any shortcuts and didn't look at players playing on a keyboard or a gamepad.
He just said clearly: Buy yourself a steering wheel, man, you'll drive great, and if not, keep playing NFS!
They made a simulator to get people to start buying steering wheels 🤷
And in a sense, it worked because the market took off and more and more people were interested in FFB steering wheels.
However, then there was a regression due to the emergence of Chinese steering wheels without FFB with a rotation angle of 180 degrees.
Consoles also began to develop greatly.
And it turned out that the vast majority of people still prefer to play arcade games rather than simulations.
Because you have to spend money on a steering wheel and you have to have space for it!
So after that for many years we only got Colin games which were typical arcade games.
And here we come to Dirt Rally.
Because only after many years was it a clear simulation.
Because the DIRT series games are pure Arcade, just like the Colin games.
Well, most people just want to have fun, so arcade games are made for them and simulations are ignored because it's a small market.
And hardly anyone cares about rally simulations because the rallies themselves are not very popular.
That's why there are a lot of racing simulations on the market, because there are much more racing fans.
As for Dirt Rally 2.
I just installed it and will try again with this title.
Maybe I'll change my mind because maybe something has changed after the updates.
But generally, when it came out, I started it, played for 6 hours and then gave up.
Cars don't drive like that in real life.
The balance and weight transfer are much worse than in the first one.
The first one is simply much better when it comes to driving SIMULATION.
It's actually a real shame that Dirt Rally was abandoned and they made a 2.0.
But that's because Dirt Rally, like RBR, was not very well received.
This is because people thought that cars drove strangely there.
And it's not strange, it's just how cars drive in real life!
Moreover, it was impossible to play on pads, so 2.0 was created 🤷
Overall, if only Dirt Rally could be modded like RBR can be modded.
This Dirt Rally would be KING!
Because it's the best rally simulation ever created.
It is much better in terms of physics than RBR.
But since it has little content, it is not popular because it is possible to cover several of the same sections.
For me, there is no big difference between Dirt Rally 2.0 and Dirt 4.
Dirt 4 is Arcade.
And Dirt Rally 2.0 is a simcade, but more towards cade 🤣
Generally, the problem is that most people have not had and have no contact with real rally or track driving.
That's why they think the car drives like in Dirt Rally 2.0
And that's not true.
The feeling on the steering wheel in front of the monitor while playing Dirt Rally 2.0 is simply more pleasant.
This is because FFB has actually been improved, so you can feel it more.
But what good is it if the physics has been simplified?
And here comes another problem.
Because FFB and the physics of vehicle mass behavior are completely two different things.
RBR doesn't have a good FFB at all, but it has brilliant physics.
Dirt Rally has both great things but you can't mod it 🤬 that's why RBR is KING.
Generally, people have the attitude that if something has good FFB, it is a simulation.
That's why they like Dirt Rally 2.0 and consider it a simulator because it has really great FFB.
Another thing is much more content than in Dirt Rally.
Yet another issue is that not every car is equally well refined.
Because the fact that a simulator uses a great physics engine does not mean that the car is also well made.
For example, in virtually all simulators the Porsche 911 is done terribly.
Only in AMS 2 it is balanced as it is in a real car.
In such an RBR, some cars are made very well and others are poorly made.
Lancer Evo IX R4 is made in such a way that it's shocking.
I drove one in real life and it drove IDENTICALLY.
And the 106 Rallye S20 GrpA, although it drives great, actually doesn't drive like that.
What I know because I drove one too.
As I wrote at the beginning, this is a river topic and much more could be written about it.
The main thing is that there is RBR and there are some really well-made cars there.
Generally, only when you have driven a given car in real life can you refer to it in the simulator.
And this is a problem because most people have never ridden sports in real life.
They think things look this way, but they actually look different.
How many attempts have there been to turn SimRacers into racing or rally drivers in real life?
And what ?
And nothing 🤣
Because just because someone is fast on a console or computer doesn't mean they can drive in real life.
Most rally and racing drivers perform poorly, really poorly, in simulators.
And again, even the best simracers are terrible in real cars 🤷
Well, it has always been so, it is so and it will be so, that the virtual world and the real world are two different worlds.
I treat RBR, Diry Rally or AMS 2 as maintaining my skills and I don't care about the results.
Because it's just a simulation, not real racing.
Greetings and sorry for such a long statement, but this is a topic 🤷
I could write a lot more, but that's all I can 🤣
Best regards 🤚
It was very pleasant and interesting to read.
"They made a simulator to get people to start buying steering wheels"
I haven't heard about this fact from the history of the creation of Richard Burns Rally.
If this is 100% true, then the success story of this game among rally fans is even more amazing.
"And it turned out that the vast majority of people still prefer to play arcade games rather than simulations.
Because you have to spend money on a steering wheel and you have to have space for it!"
I think that an equally important reason is that simulators are more difficult for most gamers.
You have to be a big racing enthusiast to appreciate the desire to make virtual driving as realistic as possible.
But in my opinion, rally is exactly the genre in which movement towards realism is the only correct one.
Because rally is not about speed and destroying your car to smithereens.
Rally is a type of racing that focuses on actual driving.
Speaking of RBR, many subsequently iconic things are often underestimated by their contemporaries.
Further, it is difficult to agree with several of your theses:
"It's actually a real shame that Dirt Rally was abandoned and they made a 2.0.
That's because Dirt Rally, like RBR, was not very well received.
This is because people thought that cars drove strangely there."
DiRT Rally is a top game from Codemasters according to ratings:
98% positive reviews from critics and 72% from users (metacritic.com)
Personally, I like both parts. But the second part is easier in terms of usability.
Also the second part has more content. And yes, the second part is more user-friendly for controller users.
But 2.0 was received much worse. The reason for this is the mass of paid content and a focus to online, which apparently not all gamers were ready for in 2019.
It's strange, but it's true. I've read negative reviews.
"Overall, if only Dirt Rally could be modded like RBR can be modded.
This Dirt Rally would be KING!"
You've probably heard about this web-site - racedepartment.com
This is a mecca for racing game lovers.
So, the number of mods for DR and DR 2.0:
Dirt Rally - 56 pages
Dirt Rally 2.0 - 79 pages
Actually, this is one of the most important reasons why I love these games.
"For me, there is no big difference between Dirt Rally 2.0 and Dirt 4.
Dirt 4 is Arcade. And Dirt Rally 2.0 is a simcade, but more towards cade 🤣"
I completely disagree. I feel a significant difference in both the physics of the cars and the handling.
Not to mention the internal structure of games.
Terminology is no fun. You can never agree on anything here. So there is no point in trying.
"(DiRT Rally is) the best rally simulation ever created.
It is much better in terms of physics than RBR."
An unexpected statement. Many wheel owners usually don't recognize this alternative to Richard Burns Rally.
I consider these games to be standards in terms of physics (DR, DR2, RBR).
But I can only judge from the point of view of playing on the device I use - a gamepad.
I'm burning with curiosity to test these games with a steering wheel.
"People have the attitude that if something has good FFB, it is a simulation.
That's why they like Dirt Rally 2.0 and consider it a simulator because it has really great FFB."
A very speculative observation. This may be based on specific people you know.
I have never observed such a correlation.
"Lancer Evo IX R4 is made in such a way that it's shocking.
I drove one in real life and it drove IDENTICALLY."
I really liked this car in RBR. But to be honest, I like it in Dirt Rally games just as much.
"Only in AMS 2 it is balanced as it is in a real car."
I am intrigued. I'll try Automobilista 2 one of these days.
I didn’t know that rally-cross was added to the second part.
However, it’s sad that there doesn’t seem to be a rally there.
"Generally, only when you have driven a given car in real life can you refer to it in the simulator.
They think things look this way, but they actually look different."
I think that this position is close to those who play this sport in real life.
Otherwise, people judge how well the driving illusion is made based only on their feelings and ideas about how it should feel.
This is exactly what I talked about in the video.
Best regards to you too 🤚
i dont dislike the game i just dont like the size of it like 90-100 gb for a 2004 game is wild itself
then download only a few tracks at a time and the dame is only 15gb.
During installation, you can manually select specific stages that you want to install. You can really fit into 10-15 Gb. I'll have a video coming out soon about the best stages of the Richard Burns Rally. At the moment, I recommend you definitely install these stages, you won’t regret it:
1. Gabiria Legazpi 2004 (6,5km Tarmac)
2. East-West (9,5km Gravel)
3. Sievrsdorf V1.1 (8,0km Tarmac)
4. Torsby 2018 (9,7km Snow)
5. Pirka Menoko (6,7km Gravel)
A 1tb SSD is $40 grow up and buy one and stop crying about space
You must be able to alter the response curve of the analogue sticks to help with the twitchiness
Thanks! I was already given similar advice, I set up the gamepad, and now I’m playing with great pleasure.
@@imagineracer What filter settings are you using?
@@NicoAssaf I talk about it in this video - th-cam.com/video/OmFeVfUz180/w-d-xo.html
You need a wheel man when u put on the clutch and give it everything and feel the ffb from it makes it 100x better
Soon. I can't wait to try RBR with a steering wheel.
@@imagineracer and asseta corsa with mods and dirt rally 2.0 they my main ones and drift X everyone n then all fun
What mode is challenging? Only playing against Time?
Did I say something similar to this in the video?
Anyway, several months have already passed and I am absolutely delighted with this game.
At the first experience with RBR and not configured controller settings, this game may indeed seem difficult.
But as far as I remember, I compared this game with my favorite sitcoms. I still find the experience of playing RBR almost therapeutic))
Awesome video mate...I have a solution for your controll problems...use mouse for steering but you need some aditional programs like the vjoy and mouse steering...I found some videos on youtube for RBR but they have no tutorial or posted links on what to dld ....just because they dont want to(and they are free to do that) ....can anyone point out a detailed tutorial on how to install these feature for RBR? It`s sad that RBR does not have this feature implemented by default because I tell you all ...the mouse steering is the closest thing to racing wheel ....
Thanks! I've never tried using a mouse. For the sake of experiment, I'm gonna try it. Regarding controll problems. I recorded this video a few days after installation and my opinion about the controller has changed. RBR is great with a controller. All you need is the correct settings and I talk about this in this video - th-cam.com/video/OmFeVfUz180/w-d-xo.html
Im a sim fan myown , mostly playing all other sims, but also arcade racing games. I love dirt rally and wrc, i even had some world records there over the years. A few days ago ive installed RBR and wanted to test it. And i dont know....Ive tried with my T300 and also controller. I needed 2 days to get the controller finally to work, but the steering was terrible, i dont know how to set the controller up, that it feels good. then ive tried my t33, ans there to, i needed about 2-3 hours to get it to work. Then on my first stage i experienced some sound bugs, and the handling was "ok" but for my taste way to slippery escpecially on tarmac, like on your video, you can see that the car spins around very unnatural and like on ice.....For me WRC and dirty rally feels way better to me, till my next try with rbr.
I'm talking about settings for the controller here - th-cam.com/video/OmFeVfUz180/w-d-xo.html
RBR also made me uncomfortable at first. But this game definitely needs to be given a chance.
Don't use the chase camera in RBR, and a good choice of stages will help you fall in love with this game faster, try these stages:
Rosciszow-Walim
SS Berica
Woliborz-Jodlownik
Biskupice 2004
FSO Zeran - Warsaw
Personally, I would say that if you want to continue using pad, you will need to very carefully customize your input filters. I have spent a fair bit of time with both pad and wheel, and it actually took me a very long time for my wheel performance to match my pad performance, in fact; my best time on rally school stage is still on pad. Dirt games give you a bit more feedback on what the car is doing, but the actual behavior of the car follows some inscrutable logic, whereas the way a car and engine behaves in RBR matches what I would expect given my own basic grasp of vehicle dynamics, and is analogous to other driving simulators.
Thanks for the comment. This is very useful and inspiring for those who don't have a steering wheel for some reason or prefer the convenience associated with using a gamepad. Yes, after recording this video I spent a lot of time adjusting the filters. Using the pad has already become much more convenient and efficient. But I’m still not sure that I’m any closer to the ideal. Can you share the nuances of your filter settings?
@@imagineracer there may be more settings to change that I don't know about, but you're basically looking for a compromise between responsiveness and smoothness. Instantly steering the wheels in a bunch of different directions can upset the car and cause understeer, but on the other hand fast responses can give you a quick counter-steer.
I would recommend using the speed-based sensitivity reduction. You want more sensitive steering on snow, and less sensitive steering on tarmac. Also make sure to tune your brakes so that you don't lock up, since the trigger isn't the best brake pedal.
Overall i would suggest making the input smoothing just slightly less responsive than you're comfortable with, and that will allow you to make small, smooth attitude adjustments.
The final possibility is you can use the mouse to steer.
Thanks for the recommendations! I'll continue to improve my settings.
Thank you for your video!
Thank you to the Hungarian guys!
You're welcome!
Dirt rally 2.0 is made to be easier to drive with a controller.
It's hard to disagree. Yep, it's totally true. Moreover, of all the top rally games, only DR 2.0 allows you to play at a high level with a controller.
The game looks great.
Richard burns was a great rally driver. This game out after he died. He is still remembered to this day. Him and colin mcrae use to battle it out. Richard won more stages than colin. He was the 2nd British champion after mcrae. Sadly he died of a brain tumour.
Call me crazy but the filter on RBR makes the graphics look somehow photorealistic, at least the stages/tracks... i dont know how to explain it, just look at 7:30... if the bottom picture was on it self i might be thinking jesus thats old af... but compared to the original pictures above, it looks top notch...
logitech sells g29 wheel(+pedals set) refurbished with warranty for $150. it's a world of difference from controller
Thanks for the recommendation! I'm saving money for a direct drive wheel.
How did you find those good looking tracks? All the ones I played looked horrible! But the physics and FFB is second to none!...I just could'nt get past the dated graphics.
I just randomly select stages and write down the ones I liked. I'm just a fan of exploring new things) Not everyone has the patience.
Yes, some stages look terrible, that's true. Try these:
1. Gabiria Legazpi 2004 (6,5km Tarmac)
2. East-West (9,5km Gravel)
3. Sievrsdorf V1.1 (8,0km Tarmac)
4. Torsby 2018 (9,7km Snow)
5. Pirka Menoko (6,7km Gravel)
@@imagineracer hey man I appreciate the list! Good looking bud!
@@Cereal_Killrbiskupice, semetin, walim are some top quality stages.
@@pbakai182 thanks!
5:03 - I really liked the video as whole, but I sincerely think you personally as a gamepad user simply cannot give a concrete opinion on physics. Try both games on a wheel, as what matters most on sim games is the feedback you get through your hands, which will in turn determine how you control your car. I would say it's 90% of what actually matters when racing.
I is impossible to get right impression of RBR using digital buttons. The video footage you shot is the best one to discourage people TBH.
The developers recommendation (circa 2003) is to get Force Feedback Wheel (use a gamepad with analog sticks or gyro at least). Usually I am calling the police when see someone driving in RBR with digital buttons 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have you tried RBR with digital buttons?
You need to be reviewing every game you did great on this review.
Glad you like what I do, thanks!
I've said for a long time that the most realistic physics might not translate to the best gaming experience. I never played RBR but I am having a blast in EA WRC, I don't care if the physics are realistic or not as long as it is fun. Some say WRC Generations have more real physics but I find that game way more boring to drive so what's the point? If realism translates to boredom I rather not have it. I do however think that WRC is close to realism and that is why it's so fun as well.
Nice video, I also use gamepad for now. Could be taste in games change when we get a wheel but EA WRC is amazing on gamepad.
The more I play EA WRC, the more I like it, yep, it's a cool game after all.
I recorded this video a few days after installation. In fact, RBR is even better with a gamepad.
In this video I talk about the gamepad settings for RBR - th-cam.com/video/OmFeVfUz180/w-d-xo.html
But this only applies if you play with a view from the cockpit. EA WRC and RBR are very good with a camera from the cockpit (with a gamepad as well). Try RBR, you won't regret it.
@@imagineracer I try to play mostly from cockpit, I feel it being way harder and way less immersive behind the vehicle. Also the sounds are a bit on the weaker thinner side outside the car in most games including WRC which is a shame.
Overall having a really great time in WRC and in love with Kenya, just going all out on the sandy dunes is amazing. When I first launched WRC I hated it, it felt strange and looked really bad. Then after changing my monitors setting to another mode (racing mode looking bad, RTS mode was good) and tweaking the graphics I really enjoy it. The game benefit greatly from pretty high Anti-aliasing so either epic or cinematic, high works as well but not lower because the trees start to thin and twinkle. Put DLSS on quality with sharpness at 80-90 and put post-processing lowest possible since it makes the game very blurry and it look like shit quite frankly with that setting on. Same with shaders, medium/high is fine otherwise it saturate the image to look a bit more cartoony in my opinion. If you want my full settings I can provide them.
RBR definitely look better since the last time I saw videos from it so I will check it out.
I'm looking around a lot lately for a wheel and it is leaning towards the Moza R9 with the Moza SR-P pedals. Then adding the 3DRAP pedal kit for throttle and clutch. Moza handbrake and then sequential shifter from some other brand, not sure but maybe the Aiologs or a no name Ali express/Amazon one. They seem quite good actually, I want a nice click but still not super loud, need to think about neighbours sadly.
Have you decided on a setup yet or any parts?
I would get fanatec if it weren't for things being out of stock so much and also no chance to do a payment plan. I can get all moza stuff and pay monthly for a year which is optimal for me right now. Fanatec has been bad at building up retail distribution and I can see them miss out on a lot of customers for that reason. Not everyone can dish out €1200 on a sim rig but over 12 months it becomes manageable and only Moza through retail stores do that in Sweden.
Thanks again for your response I will check out the other video.
Yes, playing from the cockpit is a little more difficult, but it’s like in cinama, a slightly different genre. The view from the cockpit brings additional realism to this process. And what I like about RBR and EA WRC is the sense of the size of the car itself. This is amazing.
I haven't bought a good graphics card yet, so I continue to play on medium settings. And I have no problems with the view from the cockpit. Small occasional stutters at some stages. On well-made stages, RBR is top notch.
I'm in the same situation with buying a steering wheel. I analyze the market, watch video reviews, read people's reviews and comments. I'm goona make a video about this topic in a while. In a nutshell, like you, I don’t consider entry-level steering wheels. I look towards the direct drive wheels. I also think Moza is an ideal option to start. At first I considered the Moza bases R9 and R12. Now I think the R5 kit will be enough. People praise the steering wheel, the pedals are also good, and the price is affordable. Most likely it will be Moza handbrake. I’m not sure about sequential shifter and I want it not to be loud as well. Ideally I would like the shifter to look like in a modern rally car. But in reality, I will most likely also order the first shifter from AliExpress. It seems like you can find a good quality option for ridiculous money.
@@imagineracerI ordered the moza r5 bundle, did a 6 month payment plan so not too bad monthly for it.
I did what you also did, more reading and watching videos and I feel like the r5 will be enough for me as well. Check out the 3DRAP mods for the moza SR-P + SR-P Lite pedals for a stiffer clutch and throttle. I will see how they feel default or else I will get that mod.
I also ordered the ES 12" wheel mod for it since I think the D shaped wheel might be a bit annoying in rally games.
I will get back to you with honest opinion if it's great or not. My biggest concern is the pedals tbh but with these mods and some grease I think they can become very good maybe even great.
I'm truly happy for you, man! Yes, keep me posted.
I'm very interested because I'm essentially planning to buy the same thing.
ES 12" wheel mod - this is a very good decision, I thought about it myself, but I decided to start with the R5 bundle one, and then I’ll see. But if I had enough money, I probably would have done the same, I would have ordered ES 12 right away. And I'm also thinking of buying MOZA HBP handbrake right away.
The biggest issue for me is the shifter. What did you decide about the sequential shifter?
I completely understand feeling like the gamepad wouldn't get you the proper experience, but from your clips you played in automatic and didn't even assign throttle and braking to the analog triggers..? I feel like you didn't give the gamepad a chance here, tbh
Yes, I'm playing in automatic. "You didn't even assign throttle and braking to the analog triggers?" Yes, I've been playing in this configuration since Colin McRae Rally on ps1. Why do I need to use the analog triggers? What's the difference?
@@imagineracer Well, the regular digital buttons either give you 0 or 100% of throttle/brakes, but the analog triggers will allow you to gauge your throttle and braking just like how pedals work. You get better control of your car, you can balance it around corners, you can brake harder and later, you can trailbrake in corners, you can actually control the angle of the car when you drift. Essentially a whole slew of techniques will open up to you. You'd be forgiven not to do this with Colin McRae Rally 1 and 2 on PS1 because neither the Dual Analog nor the Dualshock 1 had analog triggers, but from the PS2 generation onwards, controllers have had analog triggers (only exception being the PS2's Dualshock 2 with its pressure sensitive buttons all around instead of full-fledged analog triggers).
Oh, man, this is a completely new world you opened to me! I have always been bewildered why it's impossible to calibrate the throttle and brake on the gamepad. I tried the configuration you recommended and it's amazing! OMG, thanks! How come I've never heard of this... Yes, it’s unusual and inconvenient at first, but I feel the huge potential now. I also switched to manual shift mode and it's too hard at the moment. Unlike driving a real car in real life, you have to shift gears too quickly in both directions. So I decided to stay on automatic for now while I get used to the new configuration. Thanks again, this is just mega-cosmic advice!
@@imagineracer if it helps, for manual shifting on the controller, I'd recommend using the face buttons. Like X to upshift and Square to downshift, this way you can do both quickly with just your thumb.
Set it this way, thanks for recommendation. Now not only RBR, but all rally games have got an additional dimension. But RBR has become 100 percent more enjoyable, huge difference in this game. I'm very happy now, thanks again!
I wanna play Richards birds rally
What is stopping you?
Install and play.
I knew this would be a weird review after you said you play with gamepad. Also RBR in tarmac is not slippery you most have the wrong tires
What turned out to be interesting in the end - RBR is really good with a gamepad. I don't know about wrong tires, man. You specifically need to choose the wrong tires in this game, otherwise they automatically change depending on the stage. And believe me, I didn't choose the wrong tires on purpose. After all, yes, this is how RBR feels without the proper settings.
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Good video, this game at its launch used an old version of the BeamNG engine and thanks to the mods they have updated the version of the physics engine it uses, that is why it has such good physics.
lmao do you know that the physics of this game are mainly built for a wheel? (NGP). That means that you can feel the road and the cars behaviour through the wheel better then in other games
if you wanna play with gamepad is very wrong game to choose, because if you cant feel the car (which is 90% of fun of this game) then what physics do you think you are talking about?
you just have to try it with a wheel to understand what physics people is talking about
it 's like judging VR game played without VR
Thanks for your opinion. Do you mean NGP - Next Generation Physics plugin taht was released in 2014?
Anyway, I don't agree with you, I think RBR is a very cool game to choose using a gamepad.
"90% of fun of this game..." Based on my sensations, I feel 100% of fun using the controller.
And you don't have to take my word for it. Just take a controller and play RBR for a few hours.
At the same time, I don’t argue, I’m sure that with a steering wheel it’s even more fun and immersive.
I'm not judging VR playing without VR. I'm judging RBR controller experience in terms of playing with a controller.
And I feel the physics of cars and every pothole on the road, pits and it is pretty damn good!
@@imagineracer you know i'll try
u even dont know how to use analog in your pad, atleast your hud shows that you use it like a keyboard
I don't have analog. I just play on a PlayStation gamepad, and I could only find this option for OBS.
@@imagineracer :DDD
@@imagineracer I mean those 2 thumb joysticks in your gamepad, but anyway, even in game it looks like you use it like a keyboard.
it's pretty pointless rating the handling of a racing/rally game on a gamepad. also, dr2 feels better on controller because it has completely unrealistic physics. also that sitcom comparison is... schizophrenic. especially when you're in chase cam on a gamepad.
"sitcom comparison is... schizophrenic"
love it👍
RBR is really the best. But are you playing it on keyboard? Seriously? 🤫
I play with a controller. And I like it! 😊
Subscribed. Regarding the RBR "community". It's exactly the same as other game communities, as in: the idiots are in the minority. Take no notice of he few clowns on the discord "off topic" section who are dissing your video, and dissing you for using a controller, and who certainly haven't read the comments about how you actually play this game. I do know of one particular player who gets top times just using a keyboard, and I have driven every stage with the Xbox 360 controllers I've had lying around for years. I won't be buying any expensive setup gear while I have grandchildren who need stuff more than me. Great video, and kudos for delving into track building.
Thanks for the support! It's my fault, I should say about it in the video. Regarding the controller, it's no big deal, because until you try it yourself, you don’t understand how cool it is to drive the car using the controller as well. As for the community, on the contrary, I am impressed by how responsive people are and how meaningful and informative comments they write. A sharp critic is not a problem, criticism somehow moves you forward, and I like it.
I play this long time ago...the strange about this game is, the car is floating...the feeling just not right. Compare to Colin McRae series at that time.
Best rally game is colin mcrae rally 3 and 05.
Na padzie 😂
i mean.. not bashing on you, but are you seriously trying to judge physics by playing with a gamepad?
And yes, physics can be judged scientifically.. its "physics" afterall
I respect your opinion. But firstly, statistically, how many people play with the gamepad and how much with the steering wheel? I'm afraid players with the steering wheel will be in the minority. Why they don't have the right to judge the physics of the game in terms of using their device? Yes, it's physics. And moreover, its parameters are set by binary code. But the game is an imitation of reality, and here we judge how much this imitation is similar to reality relying on our sensations.
@@imagineracer not just 'sensations'.. most modern games give assists to gamepad to make up for its lack of precision inputs.. you cant compare the precision of inputs of moving your thumb in a 1 cm range to rotating a wheel 1080°.. think like playing fps games with controller vs mouse.
you can even see in your video how awkwardly the car wheel is rotating.. and you want to judge physics by that unnatural bahavior.
Buddy, I’m just judging by the initial data that I and most gamers have. Of course, the gamepad is not comparable to the steering wheel, I don’t argue here. Besides, I find the physics of RBR excellent even with a gamepad. Especially after I set up the filter settings. The game is very enjoyable with a gamepad.
Sorry I stopped watching when you said you are using a gamepad. 😋
bait title.. controller player.....
Christ the amount of people shitting on someone for playing with a controller is just sad
Most people aren't shitting on him out of the blue; you simply can't have an opinion about physics when your median is literally barren to physics feel and feedback. The video itself is good, but a good portion of it is talking about physics, when he himself haven't even had a taste.
dirt rally games are so overrated
A good game being very popular while not being absolutely perfect does not mean it's overrated.
I watch gameplay and continue to think that RBR is a stereotype entrenched in rally community. Where is this vaunted physics and realism? I watch and don't see. Dirt in your comparison as heaven and earth. Here cars look bad. Sound is terrible. Most stages look exactly like 2004. Sorry, but RBR is just an outdated game that now cannot be compared to the games that are coming out now. I feel bad spending 119 gigabytes on this old-school relic of time.
You are very pessimistic about this game. It's not as bad as it seems. The vanilla version of RBR weighs less than 10 gb if I'm not mistaken. It is not necessary to install all 119.
U watch and don’t see? I hope you actually gave the game a chance before coming up with this childish review. If you can’t feel the raw physics of this game you don’t even know how rallying works. And if you want graphics you should stick to the wrc garbage
@@dr_spankz Yes, exactly, I'm watching and I don't see "raw physics". I don’t see in any way that this physics is better than in modern games. Yes, I honestly wrote that I am not going to install this game precisely because I don’t see anything attractive in it.
I'm not judging the gameplay of the game, I'm just saying that nothing in what I see excites me.
Besides, I'm tired of hearing from everyone that this is the best rally game. Why do all bloggers agree with this stereotype? This is nonsense.
@@tonypapado idk how you can know "raw physics" by just looking. Because the game have different physics from dirt or wrc series and you must play it to know the differences
@@tonypapado yea judging a 20 year old game based on looks it def makes sense why you would be saying this. It’s a free game now and you can run it on anything basically, think what you will ab it