I dunno how everyone else feels about this, but I like to watch the mod process as unedited as possible, instead of snipping out the boring bits I enjoy seeing the full process. Edit: one other thing you can try to increase the FPS further is switch to a tight bore aluminium/metal barrel (7.0mm internal diameter), it would be cool to see how much further you can push this.
So, is this video to your liking? I snipped out unnecessary parts from the What's Inside video and focused on the spring mod. My goal with these videos is to leave enough that you can recreate it. It would be hours long if not edited 😂
@Engineerable at the end of the day, it's still fun and informative to watch. For me it feels fast paced but maybe more people prefer that. Doesnt have to be fully unedited but maybe there is a middle ground. Take what i say with a grain of salt though, your format may resonate better for your other viewers, i might just be an outlier.
Have you seen the full teardown video? th-cam.com/video/78YZIaHimt8/w-d-xo.html It's much more detailed, as opposed to the spring upgrade video which had a more specific focus.
What other mods would you like to see? I'm planning a hopper mod to use standard threaded hoppers, and UV tracer mod. Where to buy NERF Gelfire: amzn.to/3SJwZr8 Upgrades and Mods post - www.engineerable.com/single-post/will-nerf-dominate-the-gel-blaster-wars-with-the-nerf-gelfire-mythic-find-out-how-good-bad-it-is
One last thing, is there anyway to get metal gears to replace with the stock ones? I would assume not because you mentioned that the included gears are unique and not typical
By any chance, would you happen to have a link to buy the spring separately? Wouldn’t want to buy a surge just just to pull the Spring out and put it in the nerf.
Unfortunately, I don't think this spring can be bought off the shelf. I happened to have a dead SURGE Gen2. You might be able to take an M80 airsoft spring and cut it down to size. That's the softest airsoft spring you can buy.
@@engineerable OK good to know, would you happen to know a good place to get one of those also just curious since you took it apart does it look like it would be easy to add a hop up?
Where do you buy different length springs for these blasters? I actually want to buy a spring like the one in the Mythic to put into a Gel Blaster Surge XL to lower the FPS of the Gel Blasters I have in a bin for kids playdates.
@@floon3507 Stronger spring definitely helps, and there's also a hop up. Check out my post about Nerf Gelfire Mythic upgrades and mods www.engineerable.com/single-post/will-nerf-dominate-the-gel-blaster-wars-with-the-nerf-gelfire-mythic-find-out-how-good-bad-it-is
I haven't, but people say that 3D printed hop ups suck for high powered blasters, because they break. However, they may be fine for low power blasted like Nerf Mythic. So I would try it first before making a conclusion.
@@jsanchez9084 I see, I looked it up and looks like it would work fine. It's a non-adjustable design, but that means there isn't the adjustable tongue inside that breaks like on the other 3D printed hop ups, so this one should be stronger.
@Engineerable yea I've use it for one day seems ok so far there isn't too many upgrades for this blaster but I bought it to play with my 9yr old son so not worried about fps too much he has a gel blaster surge and I got this one on sale
@Engineerable I used the 3d printed hop up some more and tested and can say it does increase the range by a good 10-15 feet I source my own orings instead of using a rubber band like the ad on etsy states works really well
If I add a plastic ring between the spring and the orange piece to increase the load on the spring instead of changing the spring, do you think it might work the same?
You can try. If there's enough extra compression length, it will work. It's possible that could also compress the spring past it's design limit, causing it to yield over time as it is cycled.
You can try, and that would increase the force initially, but would decrease the lifespan and cause it to fatigue faster and fail. The springs were designed for a specific length, and compression and usually heat treated. Notice how the stronger spring is not stretched, but has more coils. Stretching the spring to the point that it plastically deforms and remains stretched will affect the preset and design parameters. The spring is more likely to get stressed when compressed again. This may not be an issue in a device that has low operating cycles, but a gel blaster subjects the springs to 100's of thousands of cycles.
I hope someone still will see this post even though this video has been up for a good while now in youtube time. I was wondering, what if I don't have a spare sitting around that conveniently has a spring that is bascially perfect to make it shoot harder, can I buy a spring at a local hardware shop?? Also, is there any way to extend the barrel length? I hate how short it is, I feel like it would make it fire more accurately and possibly further with the stronger spring.
The easiest solution would be to buy an airsoft spring and cut to length. TBH, better off buying a better blaster than try to mod this one too much, like longer barrel. Barrel length needs to be proportional to the cylinder volume.
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I've been waiting for a FPS mod for the Gelfire Mythic and this video is gonna be very helpful. This channel needs to blow up soon.
I dunno how everyone else feels about this, but I like to watch the mod process as unedited as possible, instead of snipping out the boring bits I enjoy seeing the full process.
Edit: one other thing you can try to increase the FPS further is switch to a tight bore aluminium/metal barrel (7.0mm internal diameter), it would be cool to see how much further you can push this.
So, is this video to your liking? I snipped out unnecessary parts from the What's Inside video and focused on the spring mod. My goal with these videos is to leave enough that you can recreate it. It would be hours long if not edited 😂
@Engineerable at the end of the day, it's still fun and informative to watch. For me it feels fast paced but maybe more people prefer that.
Doesnt have to be fully unedited but maybe there is a middle ground. Take what i say with a grain of salt though, your format may resonate better for your other viewers, i might just be an outlier.
Have you seen the full teardown video? th-cam.com/video/78YZIaHimt8/w-d-xo.html
It's much more detailed, as opposed to the spring upgrade video which had a more specific focus.
8 outta 10 beeds hit the tree at the end amazing far as I'm concerned just subscribed lol
Are there springs you could use? You can buy independentally
What other mods would you like to see? I'm planning a hopper mod to use standard threaded hoppers, and UV tracer mod.
Where to buy NERF Gelfire: amzn.to/3SJwZr8
Upgrades and Mods post - www.engineerable.com/single-post/will-nerf-dominate-the-gel-blaster-wars-with-the-nerf-gelfire-mythic-find-out-how-good-bad-it-is
@Oscar Rodriguez working on it, stay tuned!
Could you please make it jam less
Is there a similar size spring that we can buy to do this mod?
Does the barrel from the surge fit
In all seriousness add a nylon integral hopup to the barrel. No idea if you’d have to dremel some things though.
how can you upgrade the piston plunger for a tighter seal since it isn’t a normal o-ring?
With an M80 spring, what's my upper limit on extra coils before I'm hurting the blaster? I was thinking of starting at 3.
One last thing, is there anyway to get metal gears to replace with the stock ones? I would assume not because you mentioned that the included gears are unique and not typical
There aren't any metal gears available since they use a custom size.
By any chance, would you happen to have a link to buy the spring separately? Wouldn’t want to buy a surge just just to pull the Spring out and put it in the nerf.
Unfortunately, I don't think this spring can be bought off the shelf. I happened to have a dead SURGE Gen2. You might be able to take an M80 airsoft spring and cut it down to size. That's the softest airsoft spring you can buy.
@@engineerable OK good to know, would you happen to know a good place to get one of those also just curious since you took it apart does it look like it would be easy to add a hop up?
Great video. Would you know if it’s possible to use an alternative battery for that gel blaster. Can’t find a replacement…
is there anyway to mod the sound effect???
so it kind of works like the classic stampede
Where do you buy different length springs for these blasters? I actually want to buy a spring like the one in the Mythic to put into a Gel Blaster Surge XL to lower the FPS of the Gel Blasters I have in a bin for kids playdates.
Could I replace the stock battery with an airsoft or drill battery? Just trying to make this thing really powerful
Increasing battery voltage will not increase the power, only the rate of fire.
@@engineerable thanks! Any way to increase the range?
@@floon3507 Stronger spring definitely helps, and there's also a hop up. Check out my post about Nerf Gelfire Mythic upgrades and mods www.engineerable.com/single-post/will-nerf-dominate-the-gel-blaster-wars-with-the-nerf-gelfire-mythic-find-out-how-good-bad-it-is
@@engineerable I’ll check that out. Thanks man!
Another great video. 🙌
Thanks mate!
Where do you get the new spring from?
Have you tried the 3d printed hop up on etsy?
I haven't, but people say that 3D printed hop ups suck for high powered blasters, because they break. However, they may be fine for low power blasted like Nerf Mythic. So I would try it first before making a conclusion.
@Engineerable I purchased and printed it yesterday have to test a little more but it seems to increase the range somewhat what
@@jsanchez9084 I see, I looked it up and looks like it would work fine. It's a non-adjustable design, but that means there isn't the adjustable tongue inside that breaks like on the other 3D printed hop ups, so this one should be stronger.
@Engineerable yea I've use it for one day seems ok so far there isn't too many upgrades for this blaster but I bought it to play with my 9yr old son so not worried about fps too much he has a gel blaster surge and I got this one on sale
@Engineerable I used the 3d printed hop up some more and tested and can say it does increase the range by a good 10-15 feet I source my own orings instead of using a rubber band like the ad on etsy states works really well
Is it possible to switch stock battery with 14v battery
Dubbe eagle /well p90 gear box.
Not a P90 gearbox. P90 uses standard airsoft gears.
where do u get the coils from
Nice man
If I add a plastic ring between the spring and the orange piece to increase the load on the spring instead of changing the spring, do you think it might work the same?
You can try. If there's enough extra compression length, it will work. It's possible that could also compress the spring past it's design limit, causing it to yield over time as it is cycled.
How do you stop the gel balls from failing to feed? I can get about 5-6 balls out before you have to shake it to get them to fire…
Is this with the gel balls that came with it? Try different brand of gel balls. This hopper design doesn't have the best feeding.
Could you just stretch the original spring a bit or would that not work
You can try, and that would increase the force initially, but would decrease the lifespan and cause it to fatigue faster and fail. The springs were designed for a specific length, and compression and usually heat treated. Notice how the stronger spring is not stretched, but has more coils. Stretching the spring to the point that it plastically deforms and remains stretched will affect the preset and design parameters. The spring is more likely to get stressed when compressed again. This may not be an issue in a device that has low operating cycles, but a gel blaster subjects the springs to 100's of thousands of cycles.
Fair enough I’ll try to locate a spring online thank you for the reply
Can u please do a video like this for hydro strike pulsar pro
Dumb question is the spring in the surge 1.5 the same as the gen 2/3
The one with the slide velocity adjustment? Probably, because the max FPS is also ~175. Haven't taken the 1.5 gearbox apart yet though.
@Engineerable yes those ones I got 3 and it's making me want to swap one in now
Can I send you our gun for you to do the mod?? If so , how much? Thanks!!
Sorry, I only make the how to videos
I hope someone still will see this post even though this video has been up for a good while now in youtube time. I was wondering, what if I don't have a spare sitting around that conveniently has a spring that is bascially perfect to make it shoot harder, can I buy a spring at a local hardware shop?? Also, is there any way to extend the barrel length? I hate how short it is, I feel like it would make it fire more accurately and possibly further with the stronger spring.
The easiest solution would be to buy an airsoft spring and cut to length. TBH, better off buying a better blaster than try to mod this one too much, like longer barrel. Barrel length needs to be proportional to the cylinder volume.
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awesome.