More of a challenge to win through technical plays and "smarts" in the 40+ era though, the cell ball and especially 38mm ball required a more deft touch and rewarded you more as a result
EmRat, you often compare Chinese vs European playing styles. I think Waldner and a few others (Xu Xin, Tomokazu Harimoto and maybe if he continue to develope also Truls Möregårdh) really stands out on their own. Waldner for example always seem to add some extra in each ball, that little change of direction, spin or speed creating tons of uncertainity for the opponent and constantly bringing him out of the comfort zone. Waldner was never the player with the most intense playing style in his generation, compare with J-M Saive or most of the Chinese players. There where those who hit harder and moved faster but when playing against Waldner they struggled since the ball never came back exactly as they where used to. Others hit much harder and direct but Waldner often managed to counter it with a block and thus spending much less effort but still win the point. Gatien and Schwartzkopf had both hammers not to mention the forhand from Waldners training partner and World Champions Jörgen Persson and the backhand from Mikael Appelgren. Honestly I find it difficult to learn much from Waldner. He was simply on another level and the things he makes look easy are super difficult to do. And even more difficult to master.
@@skakollaettklipp I can see that you mentioned some but Karakasevic is probably a level above Waldner in terms of style, talent and game iq (Waldner himself apparently said it).
The nice thing about Table Tennis is how much you can use tactics and misdirection. Waldner is THE master at those. Many times when you see his matches, he is basically standing there and the opponent is running all over like crazy.
I wish these videos were available when I was a teenager; could've grown even stronger! Jan-Ove Waldner by far influenced my playing style. Used to win a ton of points using my serves, imitating Waldner; the third ball attacks I'd get are just so easy to play! Thanks @TableTennisDaily and Jan-Ove Waldner!
@@TableTennisDaily Man, I was that big a fan, I even had a national Swedish shirt! A deep blue with yellow stripes making the cross of Sweden! Team Waldner, Appelgren, and Persson were unbeatable!
another key here is to have all your other serves start very similar if you can. Hide the racket behind your body as long as you can before contacting the ball, on both regular serves and the long fast serve. That way you dont give away that you will be performing that serve.
Waldner is giving it a very quick right leaning side top spin. That spin curves the ball downwards to the table instead of going out of bounds like whats happening to dans first few tries.
Some may see it as a picture of an old chap who once was a table tennis player showing a trick he was using back in the day when he knew how to play but I bet he would still win with 99% of the people watching this video.
Hi. I would like to buy this course, please help me. I would choise the first option ( one month). What does it mean exactly please? I wont have the videos.for ever ? Can i download them to my computer ?
I often catch the edge too 😂 you don't need to look anyway..the table is not moving anywhere no need to ace either. if the player is late you'll get a nice easy ball to finish the point
Well ... I am also kinda disappointed, but this is basically normal nowadays. And since this almost never is forced during the match, it is best to learn this serve. Also, at least on the first serve, the ball was hidden only a bit by the head - which can be corrected. It seems way more hidden since you cannot see the racket, which is totally legal. You only have to see the balls, so it is best to hide the racket as long as possible.
Creative, yes, but not more skilled. All players nowadays have amazing touch, but that isn't the focus anymore. You see it come out in some rallies though. Then you really see the genius these players have
@@Hesselaer Don't really agree with this one. Rules & equipment changes made the game easier. When players could do the serves with hiding the ball and serve it straight from hand, as well as with all the speed glue thing, you had to be really good at receives and controlling that crazy spin. Nowadays, the equipment simply limits it and it's more about pure & automated power.
@@fcsprinter6210Playing a bh flick doesn't take much skill with the plastic ball.A 13 yo Harimoto who didn't even train full time was a master of it. And bh looping was so much easier with the 40mm ball even penholders could use it.
@@fcsprinter6210Even my grandma can play the bh loop with the plastic ball.Harimoto who only trained 2-3 hours a day had a top backhand by the age of 14.
Who’s the GOAT? Ma Long or Waldner? 🐐
Ma Long
Waldner, obviously, he is the goat of table tennis and playing down the middle.
Waldner will always be the Mozart of table tennis. His creativity and control are unmatched to this day, imho.
Waldner
Ma long for sure.
This is amazing guys. Waldner himself teaching what is probably the most iconic serve of all time. Thanks for this.
Waldner style is very smart. Nowadays, you can win a lot by playing smart
More of a challenge to win through technical plays and "smarts" in the 40+ era though, the cell ball and especially 38mm ball required a more deft touch and rewarded you more as a result
Reallly????? How can you tell????? Wow!!!!!!!
EmRat, you often compare Chinese vs European playing styles. I think Waldner and a few others (Xu Xin, Tomokazu Harimoto and maybe if he continue to develope also Truls Möregårdh) really stands out on their own. Waldner for example always seem to add some extra in each ball, that little change of direction, spin or speed creating tons of uncertainity for the opponent and constantly bringing him out of the comfort zone.
Waldner was never the player with the most intense playing style in his generation, compare with J-M Saive or most of the Chinese players. There where those who hit harder and moved faster but when playing against Waldner they struggled since the ball never came back exactly as they where used to.
Others hit much harder and direct but Waldner often managed to counter it with a block and thus spending much less effort but still win the point. Gatien and Schwartzkopf had both hammers not to mention the forhand from Waldners training partner and World Champions Jörgen Persson and the backhand from Mikael Appelgren.
Honestly I find it difficult to learn much from Waldner. He was simply on another level and the things he makes look easy are super difficult to do. And even more difficult to master.
@@skakollaettklipp I can see that you mentioned some but Karakasevic is probably a level above Waldner in terms of style, talent and game iq (Waldner himself apparently said it).
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The nice thing about Table Tennis is how much you can use tactics and misdirection.
Waldner is THE master at those. Many times when you see his matches, he is basically standing there and the opponent is running all over like crazy.
Real glad Waldner is joining TTD. Can’t wait for more videos!
Plenty more Waldner videos over at tabletennisdailyacademy.com 💪🏓
@TableTennisDaily may I purchase this masterclass if I live in usa?
J-O W is old school player. he adopts to everrything. that is smart playing tt. respect to his majesty sir J-O Waldner
I wish these videos were available when I was a teenager; could've grown even stronger! Jan-Ove Waldner by far influenced my playing style. Used to win a ton of points using my serves, imitating Waldner; the third ball attacks I'd get are just so easy to play! Thanks @TableTennisDaily and Jan-Ove Waldner!
Love this 🙏🏓 Totally agree the amount that one can learn online now is incredible! I wish I also had this when I was younger. Have a great weekend 👊
@@TableTennisDaily Likewise!
@@TableTennisDaily Man, I was that big a fan, I even had a national Swedish shirt! A deep blue with yellow stripes making the cross of Sweden! Team Waldner, Appelgren, and Persson were unbeatable!
Waldner is legend all times💐
3:25 😅 Goat.
I love so much this guy ! Thank you Sir for all ! so much time in front of youtube to watch his matches!
Thanks! Training services is usually skipped in our club, I hardly ever take the time to practice those for myself. Time to change that!
What a legend
Despite the quality, I'm also fascinated by how clean Waldner's serve is rn, considering he had the best hidden serve 2 decades ago.
Janne is amazing!
Wow!!! You guys got the GOAT on your side❤❤❤
What an amazing guys, such a legend!
Thank you for that tutorial guys!
Thats amazing !
another key here is to have all your other serves start very similar if you can. Hide the racket behind your body as long as you can before contacting the ball, on both regular serves and the long fast serve. That way you dont give away that you will be performing that serve.
I will practise that. Thx 🙂👍
So good. Actually doable and I can learn. Thank you.
Great serve and top man
@TableTennisDaily
"Ok, let me try!"
Waldner: 1:37😂
Been practising this for weeks but not confident yet to use it in matches :-)
Hope this video gives you some more confidence in your serves 🔥
Been practicing it since the early -90's and I only get 7-8 real good ones out of ten. 😅
Waldner has a very quick hand
Amazing
Bit like your 🚕 in the latest TTD Team ep 😍🚀
Best ace serve in history
I love Waldner.
I'm not the best a serves, but this one I can actually do quite well.
jan u r legend ...=)
Waldner is giving it a very quick right leaning side top spin. That spin curves the ball downwards to the table instead of going out of bounds like whats happening to dans first few tries.
Can you tell me which equipment use JO Waldner this video?
Some may see it as a picture of an old chap who once was a table tennis player showing a trick he was using back in the day when he knew how to play but I bet he would still win with 99% of the people watching this video.
legend！
Când bați un suedez,te bucuri de toată satisfacția.Succes!
Dan:
2021: Okay guys so im just gonna say it- Ma Long is the GOAT of table tennis.
2023: Waldner is GOAT
Doesn't make much sense does it?
Never thought Waldner has a fluent Englsih.
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terrible grammar, but still yeah
i love this video. but when you are realy strict, he hides the ball a second when it goes down behind his head. anyways much love for this 🙂
Hi.
I would like to buy this course, please help me.
I would choise the first option ( one month).
What does it mean exactly please?
I wont have the videos.for ever ?
Can i download them to my computer ?
何言ってるかは全くわからなかったけど、ワルドナーのサーブ技術がもの凄いのは良くわかった。
I often catch the edge too 😂 you don't need to look anyway..the table is not moving anywhere
no need to ace either. if the player is late you'll get a nice easy ball to finish the point
That no-look serve😅
Quite nice but nothing compared to the handleshot 🥳
The Taxi Grandmaster 🚕
Where are the links to learn more from Waldner?
Hi Pete the other videos are here from Waldner tabletennisdailyacademy.com/packages/jan-ove-waldner-masterclass/
This is Wladmir's nightmare
What's amazing is I bet he could play at a 2500 level (USATT) without even trying.
He was just hustling before 3:26.
J-O!!!
Legend 3:25
Is this how Lebrun hit the table with his racket? :D
Well whats the point if he is clearly hiding the serve? We are not in the old era anymore....
Well ... I am also kinda disappointed, but this is basically normal nowadays. And since this almost never is forced during the match, it is best to learn this serve.
Also, at least on the first serve, the ball was hidden only a bit by the head - which can be corrected. It seems way more hidden since you cannot see the racket, which is totally legal. You only have to see the balls, so it is best to hide the racket as long as possible.
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Both are goat😂🎉
Yasssssssssss
"Destroy Your Opponents With This Serve" No need, just tell them you're Jan Ove Waldner
Adalvound jackfish
Players were much more skilled and creative back in the day.
Creative, yes, but not more skilled. All players nowadays have amazing touch, but that isn't the focus anymore. You see it come out in some rallies though. Then you really see the genius these players have
@@Hesselaer Don't really agree with this one. Rules & equipment changes made the game easier. When players could do the serves with hiding the ball and serve it straight from hand, as well as with all the speed glue thing, you had to be really good at receives and controlling that crazy spin. Nowadays, the equipment simply limits it and it's more about pure & automated power.
@@TableTennisMediaso players that didn’t have a backhand loop or flick were more skilled?
@@fcsprinter6210Playing a bh flick doesn't take much skill with the plastic ball.A 13 yo Harimoto who didn't even train full time was a master of it.
And bh looping was so much easier with the 40mm ball even penholders could use it.
@@fcsprinter6210Even my grandma can play the bh loop with the plastic ball.Harimoto who only trained 2-3 hours a day had a top backhand by the age of 14.
L E G E N D
Dan, let him talk.
My bad guys 🙏
the ball is behind his face, so its illegal
TAXİ
🚕🚖🚕
Ma Long is the GOAT
😂
Ma long
"How do you go about doing this serve winning the point outright on the serve" ... everything that is WRONG with table tennis
what are you talking about. Just play
Please refrain from using such clickbait titles.
LOL... his english isnt improving :D