As I was watching this I gradually realised that it’s a quite different bike than the last one. I don’t think I’ll be updating my lighter, 110/120 Evo for the sort of riding I do. Certainly more trail than XC end of Down Country now.
Yes very different bike to yours. Which is now what the 'new' Evo is. Youcan even get Flight Attendant for your bike now if you want so absolutely no need to change.
Great reviews! I think I’ve watched them all. It’s still early but I’m getting the sense that the regular Epics have better balanced suspension. Did you get the feeling that the Epics gave you a better overall experience than the evo (possibly due to the stiff Fox shock)? Perhaps the Evo Pro frame set build with separate RockShox Flight Attendant would be the ticket. Would you take this over the Epic 8 Pro or the Scott Spark RC?
Personally I think I’d go Epic Pro if I had to leave everything as it is as that is a beautifully balanced bike like you say. I’ve got this Evo as a long termer though so I’m going to try all sorts of different builds on it. Already got a more open tuned Float shock to put in it and Flight Attendant SIDs in the right sizes. Going to play around with brakes and wheels/tyres too. I’ll probably see how light I can get it before it gets sketchy first but I might see how burly I can get it too just for fun. Watch this space but all suggestions welcome. Thanks for watching all the content anyway and please spread the word 🤘🏻🙏🏻
@@GuyKesTV Perfection! Yeah, I think enthusiasts are hungry for more data points. Filling in the ride spectrum from trail to xc to find that ‘perfect window’ would be super informative. Adding the SID FA to the Evo would be…epic (forgive me). That’s the only current frameset that doesn’t come with a front fork and would make sense for a build. I’m debating between the Epic and the forthcoming Canyon and Spark 🤔
No, you’ve already got two of the best bikes in the world. Just ride those depending on what mood you’re in 🤣 TBH Epic Evo is still way closer to the Spur so you’d be wanting more on days you currently grab the Stumpy.
Guy, how would you say this compares Tallboy or SB120? Is it just as capable, or are those on the even more trail-y side of the spectrum? Looking for something I can have fun with at home, but still do decent at a bike park green/blue lines.
I've been rallying my long termer pretty hard the past few months and it's loved it. Tallboy definitely stiffer / stouter feeling when it comes to really pushing on jump lines, big berms etc, but suspension isn't as good in random chunky stuff, particularly when climbing. SB120 has the smoothest suspension overall but still has a very effective pedal kick. Heavier than the Epic though without internal storage and while I'd say front end feel is very similar in terms of stiffness it's more docile and calm overall. Epic has a bit of whip and edge to it and loves to hustle if you know what I mean. Hope that helps, Guy
@@GuyKesTV Some very good information, thank you, helped a bit definitely! I have the new epic 8 s-works already, so might be abit boring with essentially the same bike twice. But if I put it simply. If you were to go to a bike park, and had to choose between the three - Which one would you take? (talking green/blue jumptrails, maybe some chunky bits)
Could you advise me on sizing? I am 5’10 and I was in between M and L size on previous. New Epic 8 has longer reach, do you think I should go Medium or Large? Thank you
If I was building my dream "Downcountry" bike it would look like this: -120/140mm travel -140mm Fox 34 fork -77* STA, 65* HTA -120mm Single pivot flex stay suspension -every effort to make the bike as light weight as reasonable -every effort to make the bike climb well and pedal efficiently. This new Epic Evo comes close.
@@marksandoval5361 Epic Evo 8 frame: 2.21 kg Stumpjumper SWorks frame: 2.22 kg I have mine my stumpy built to 12.2kg/27lb and the EEVO8 pro is 12.12kg/26.7lb. I have a pretty much the same component build. IMO the bike does descend really well for our terrain in the rockies and is a step up from a Transition Smuggler in climbing. Not EEVO level quick for sure.
I have an s-works Stumpy ST. Not sure this bike does anything better. And the bike is pretty light too. This Epic EVO has identical setup for shocks, I actually prefer the three position over a two
Looks like Specialized’s answer to the Transition Spur or similar short travel trail bikes.
With a 130 fork, surely it’s now a trail bike - presumably very fast and efficient at that. [Jon]
Yup exactly that. Like a Tallboy but a kilo lighter in the frame
@@GuyKesTVi grabbed an allied bc40 with a 130 ... Very similar to this beast...Rides as like my yeti sb130 did just far lighter.
@@flow2tech nice, we don’t really get Allied over here but I’ve only heard great things.
@@GuyKesTV Ya I've heard they ride very similar to the stumpy..Can build it up evo like or keep it pure xc
How big are you? Noticed this was a large?
I’m just over 6’ between sizes. Curious if a L or XL would be a better fit. Thanks
As I was watching this I gradually realised that it’s a quite different bike than the last one. I don’t think I’ll be updating my lighter, 110/120 Evo for the sort of riding I do. Certainly more trail than XC end of Down Country now.
Yes very different bike to yours. Which is now what the 'new' Evo is. Youcan even get Flight Attendant for your bike now if you want so absolutely no need to change.
Great reviews! I think I’ve watched them all. It’s still early but I’m getting the sense that the regular Epics have better balanced suspension. Did you get the feeling that the Epics gave you a better overall experience than the evo (possibly due to the stiff Fox shock)? Perhaps the Evo Pro frame set build with separate RockShox Flight Attendant would be the ticket. Would you take this over the Epic 8 Pro or the Scott Spark RC?
Personally I think I’d go Epic Pro if I had to leave everything as it is as that is a beautifully balanced bike like you say. I’ve got this Evo as a long termer though so I’m going to try all sorts of different builds on it. Already got a more open tuned Float shock to put in it and Flight Attendant SIDs in the right sizes. Going to play around with brakes and wheels/tyres too. I’ll probably see how light I can get it before it gets sketchy first but I might see how burly I can get it too just for fun. Watch this space but all suggestions welcome. Thanks for watching all the content anyway and please spread the word 🤘🏻🙏🏻
@@GuyKesTV Perfection! Yeah, I think enthusiasts are hungry for more data points. Filling in the ride spectrum from trail to xc to find that ‘perfect window’ would be super informative. Adding the SID FA to the Evo would be…epic (forgive me). That’s the only current frameset that doesn’t come with a front fork and would make sense for a build. I’m debating between the Epic and the forthcoming Canyon and Spark 🤔
@@skyfiblue eyes peeled to see what gets ridden at Cape Epic eh!
Where did you say this was? Looks awesome!
Mantanzas Chile. Awesome place but takes a while to get to!
I have a Spur and a Stumpy Evo. Would you consolidate this as a one bike quiver?
No, you’ve already got two of the best bikes in the world. Just ride those depending on what mood you’re in 🤣 TBH Epic Evo is still way closer to the Spur so you’d be wanting more on days you currently grab the Stumpy.
Guy, how would you say this compares Tallboy or SB120? Is it just as capable, or are those on the even more trail-y side of the spectrum? Looking for something I can have fun with at home, but still do decent at a bike park green/blue lines.
I've been rallying my long termer pretty hard the past few months and it's loved it. Tallboy definitely stiffer / stouter feeling when it comes to really pushing on jump lines, big berms etc, but suspension isn't as good in random chunky stuff, particularly when climbing. SB120 has the smoothest suspension overall but still has a very effective pedal kick. Heavier than the Epic though without internal storage and while I'd say front end feel is very similar in terms of stiffness it's more docile and calm overall. Epic has a bit of whip and edge to it and loves to hustle if you know what I mean. Hope that helps, Guy
@@GuyKesTV Some very good information, thank you, helped a bit definitely! I have the new epic 8 s-works already, so might be abit boring with essentially the same bike twice. But if I put it simply. If you were to go to a bike park, and had to choose between the three - Which one would you take? (talking green/blue jumptrails, maybe some chunky bits)
Just brought a 2024 Epic Evo Pro Ltd in the Specialized sale. 50% off at £4000! Unbelievable bargain.
Could you advise me on sizing? I am 5’10 and I was in between M and L size on previous. New Epic 8 has longer reach, do you think I should go Medium or Large? Thank you
Im 510 as well. I am on a 482 Reach enduro, so I will be going large on this..I think its 470 or 475.
If I was building my dream "Downcountry" bike it would look like this:
-120/140mm travel
-140mm Fox 34 fork
-77* STA, 65* HTA
-120mm Single pivot flex stay suspension
-every effort to make the bike as light weight as reasonable
-every effort to make the bike climb well and pedal efficiently.
This new Epic Evo comes close.
Sounds like you are describing the current Stumpjumper (non-evo of course)
@@sprungmass The rear suspension on the carbon Stumpy neither climbs well nor descends well and it's not lightweight.
@@marksandoval5361
Epic Evo 8 frame: 2.21 kg
Stumpjumper SWorks frame: 2.22 kg
I have mine my stumpy built to 12.2kg/27lb and the EEVO8 pro is 12.12kg/26.7lb. I have a pretty much the same component build. IMO the bike does descend really well for our terrain in the rockies and is a step up from a Transition Smuggler in climbing. Not EEVO level quick for sure.
I have an s-works Stumpy ST. Not sure this bike does anything better. And the bike is pretty light too. This Epic EVO has identical setup for shocks, I actually prefer the three position over a two
Makes me want to upgrade my Ripley. Frame swap.