Is that enough to offset the dealer visit pain? Plus, how many Maserati dealers are there. First off, the MSRP is way too high to begin with, so there's that. This is not a 6-figure car!!!; should be 80s and marked down from there. The 911 is now a 6-figure car and this Maserati is no 911.
Always had a soft spot for these cars. They're underrated but so beautiful, with a nice exhaust sound too. I always picked the unpopular car of its category and always got pleasantly surprised.
...see it all the time in Ohio, but here, the red WRX/STi would have tried to race ahead and do a 2-lane right move to make the exit. At least this Subaru did the sensible thing and slowed down and fell in line before the exit....
Had one of those as a rental for 10 days with only 2K miles, interior and outside looks nothing too impressive.but when you get to the driving, the experience I’ve had was amazing, just unbelievable how the gearbox respond and the beautiful noise they make.
I just bought a 2022 Modena SQ4 version in Blu Nobile colour. It is an amazing car, adrenaline rusher and definitely head turner among the boring German competitors 🔱
I am currently driving my 4th Maserati right now. The last one was a 2019 SQ4 GranSport just like yours. Maserati is not for everyone. If you are into tech gadgets, Maserati is not for you. If the gap between the door and the pillar bothers you, then it is not for you. Cheap Chrysler parts like window switch bothers you then you should not look at a Maser. It will give you unexplainable things here and there as you drive everyday. The joy of driving a Maser is totally different. As for Q4, you will have to watch out for tires and brakes as they wear out in speed of light. I had to go through 3 sets of front tires and 2 sets of rear tires in 25K miles... Of course 2 sets of front and a set of rear brakes including rotors too... It is just different fun to drive a Maser. All of my previous Maser did not have to go to the shop besides annual svc while I owned them. It is better than you think. Although they will discontinue Ghibli and QP next year. Oh... Do not drive a Maser in normal mode.. Mine stays on sports mode 24/7. My other cars aren't happy as I take this one out everyday even on weekends... I had 50/50 portion of German/Italian cars in my garage few years ago but now it is 90% Italian. Graduated from German cars.. Even my son drives his 2nd Giulia and loves it.
To see a Maserati driving on the road, is like suddenly meeting a girl of unusual beauty walking down the street. She immediately sinks into the soul, the heartbeat quickens, its hard to take your eyes away and after that, you'll still think about her. She is special one.
Superb....Maserati plays on another league....since I was a child and I'm 50, remember the smell of the leather of those 220, 250 and 280 of a dealership that was near my home. I've always loved this brand....good video!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I actually really like what I saw. The interior is a clean, elegant design - looks high quality. The exterior is pretty good looking. Sounds great, pretty good powertrain. Maserati is still a pretty cool brand to own. If I were in the market I'd definitely consider this.
The Ghibli really seems like its aging quite well. Especially in the interior department. Way more cohesive and attractive than whatever the hell Mercedes is doing
The Ghibli’s interesting. I own a 2016 SQ4 and it has great character; Lovely exhaust, decent handling. It’s a fun car. But to own for the past 5 years? Mixed opinions. It’s pretty spacious and the rear trunk actually is the unsung hero imo, giving tons of storage space. Keep in mind it’s a long car. The issue I constantly have, however, especially owning it where winters get cold, is the car does not start when it gets below freezing. You have to jump start it each time and I just swapped out the battery with a new one. I’m not sure what the issue is, but after the hassles, it’s a fun drive.
@@cactimungus9628 something is wrong with yours my friend. I have one in western Canada. No plug either. Starts every time. I once left it outside over 3 days in -30C weather. Started without issue. Get yours checked.
I really WANT to like these Ghiblis if they're more reliable. When I say more reliable, I don't mean Toyota reliability. I want B58, C43 - ish reliability. These Maseratis sound beautiful.
They're decently reliable, on par with the Germans. They've been putting that Ferrari-designed V6 on everything. You do have to make sure to have good batteries because the electronics *hate* voltage drops.
@@ferraerati1234 Correct... Once, I had a CL65 AMG and Maserati QP for my DD but I drove Maser a lot more and CL 65 AMG was a nightmare with endless problems... People have issues with Maser's reliability but I have not faced a serious one (Knock on wood) in my past 3 of them and the one I am driving now.
They are not bad on reliability. Know two people with them and they love them. I think Ghibli's (or all Maserati's for that matter) get a bad rap because of over blown problems with them. The same people who hate Maserati's and call them trash are the same who ignore problems with vehicles like Tesla's and BMW's. Overall, after being in Ghibli's I'd say don't buy new, wait 3-5 years and get used. Way better deal for what you get. I know this is like 5 months after you posted this comment lol
As gorgeous as the Ghibli is, I can’t help but wish that Maserati had chosen another name. My father had a 1971 Maserati Ghibli, which has to be one of the most gorgeous cars ever, there are no bad angles to view it from. The 4.9 liter V8 is a beast, and it manages to sound beautiful and brutal at the same time. It’s a big car, and luckily the original owner ordered it with the optional power steering, making it a very easy car to drive at slower speeds. It was pitted against the Ferrari 365gtb/4 “Daytona”’ when they were new, but it’s a much easier car to drive. I’ve had the Ghibli up to 150 mph, and it’s very stable.
Can you try to find a manual 2013-2016 Dodge dart to test drive? I have one but in automatic, and nobody on youtube has a good video showcasing the manual Dart. Everyone on the internet sees these as pos but these are fun little cars and i just wanna see what your thoughts are on it.
Hey Tedward. It is possible to see at least 2 generations of Ford Thunderbird? I can't find cool POV videos of T-Birds on YT . It might be an interresting content. Cheers!
I work at a Maserati dealership. In a sea of modern hybrids and over complicated junk, the Ghibli is a surprisingly charming drivers car. If anybody is looking to get one, let me know. I’d love to help out
@@niraj7616 In my eyes, it's really just the GranTurismo that stands out as the best. A clean, low mileage late example will go for about $90K but it delivers the best looks, driving experience and reliability by far. That 4.7L Ferrari V8 is incredibly intoxicating. Not to mention it's the only Maz that will hold it's value fairly well. (New GT may change that but it's going to be a very different car - TT V6 w/AWD so maybe not) Second place, I'd put a 2019ish Ghibli, which can be had for about $35k-$55k with all wheel drive and 424hp. Performance and practicality is very good for the price, but watch reliability - definitely go for a low mileage example if you can. Quattroporte/Levante is a close third. Performance practicality and reliability are about the same but handling is slightly worse as it's a larger car compared to Ghibli. Don't bother with anything older like a 4200GT. They can be tempting at $25Kish but the trans will break if you look at it the wrong way and looks and performance are nothing special by modern standards.
@@stevea471 Unless you can get a dealer to give you a proper order slot with a deposit + in writing that they won't sell it from under you (a new theme at BMW dealers I've seen on Bimmerpost), yes there are ADMs on a lot of popular configs once they hit the lot.
Sorry Ted, I did not see a $90k driving experience, let alone a $113k experience. Maybe the need for these "discounts" is the market telling Maserati that the MSRP is too high and is not in line w/the image of the car. After all, a chrome turd is still a turd. This is a (maybe) a $90k car that needs to be in the $70ks. If Maserati doesn't like that, then too bad, such is life. Alfa Romeos also need to knocked down a notch too...
These cars have always had an inflated MSRP because their marketing strategy has been anchoring the price high and attracting people with discounts that don't really mean anything
I totally agree that this Maserati’s discount is evidence that it’s just overpriced for what it is. Interesting you bring up Alfas needing to be brought down too, however. The current Alfa products already undercut their rivals by a couple of grand-how much further do you think they need to go? They seem to beat the Germans in dynamics but fall short on the interior. But I’m not sure if the Alfas really need to be priced even lower since they’re already more “Acura” money as compared to “BMW” money. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
This car does not look high end at all. Look at the interior of a S Class. Even if you took away the Mercedes logo you know that is a special car. The starting price is about the same but the interior and exterior blows the Maserati away. I think Maserati messed up by making cheaper models to get more customers. A decade ago the price of your average Maserati was $125k. Now they have some models starting in the high 60s.
Besides the obvious fact that one can just continue to throw money at it assuming they have it, I'll never understand how anyone owns these for over a year. Maybe no one does! 😂 I honestly don't know the full truth of the matter 1st hand, but one doesn't have to dig to far to understand why 16k miles is incredibly high milage for an Italian car. God forbid something is engaging, beautiful, AND properly built & realistically serviceable. Gotta go back in time for that.
@bbqnachos you've never owned a Toyota or Honda clearly 😆 Obviously they break too & I've had a few serious Honda issues, but generally speaking, they are built better than anything else on the road & have quality control which is UNMATCHED. It's not even close.
Cool sound, decent looks, good driving experience. However, I always think of Doug DeMuro shoving a tube of toothpaste in the doorgap when I spot a Ghibli...
@Daniele Regoli Facts! Doug is great in all, but the car community thinks way too high of him. I know 2 people who own these and they think they're great. They have nothing but praise for the brand. They never have had an issue, as opposed to the people I know with BMW's which wish they never bothered buying them.
For less than half this cars discounted price you could get a perfect 50k mile e39 m5, that will get you similar performance, throw an android head unit in there and it’s practically a modern sports car. Tell me I’m wrong
@@TedwardDrives I did not have any issues with my previous ones... And once it gets out of annual service, car feels completely new and wants to go on the track....
When everything else is 5,000 to 20,000 over MSRP, does Maserati start to enter the chat at 20-25k under MSRP?
Is that enough to offset the dealer visit pain? Plus, how many Maserati dealers are there. First off, the MSRP is way too high to begin with, so there's that. This is not a 6-figure car!!!; should be 80s and marked down from there. The 911 is now a 6-figure car and this Maserati is no 911.
No
Even at 25k off it’s still a shitty deal. Maserati is the most overhyped and overpriced brand. Period.
I'll go for it if money is not a problem to me
No
I hope everyone in the comment section owns their dream car one day.
Thanks. Likewise. :)
Well right on, I hope the same for you!
Thank you bro same to you!
same goes to you
I have Maserati Delership (and Ferrari, Alpine, Koenigsegg, Bugatti, and restaurant) in my City, for me Maserati Ghibli is normal Car ;)
Always had a soft spot for these cars. They're underrated but so beautiful, with a nice exhaust sound too. I always picked the unpopular car of its category and always got pleasantly surprised.
No one talks about them for a reason
Indeed. Nothing looks like this. It's a [expensive, problematic] work of art in your driveway, which will make you smile every day.
8:25 crazy exit from that red subaru. lol
"I turn now, good luck everybody else!"
...see it all the time in Ohio, but here, the red WRX/STi would have tried to race ahead and do a 2-lane right move to make the exit. At least this Subaru did the sensible thing and slowed down and fell in line before the exit....
@@K03sport Guilty, just a couple states over
Here in NJ that is called the Jersey Slide lol
@@RyanRoadReaper he got spooked by the Ghibli
Had one of those as a rental for 10 days with only 2K miles, interior and outside looks nothing too impressive.but when you get to the driving, the experience I’ve had was amazing, just unbelievable how the gearbox respond and the beautiful noise they make.
I just bought a 2022 Modena SQ4 version in Blu Nobile colour. It is an amazing car, adrenaline rusher and definitely head turner among the boring German competitors 🔱
Boring German cars have one message for you check it out 😂
I am currently driving my 4th Maserati right now. The last one was a 2019 SQ4 GranSport just like yours. Maserati is not for everyone. If you are into tech gadgets, Maserati is not for you. If the gap between the door and the pillar bothers you, then it is not for you. Cheap Chrysler parts like window switch bothers you then you should not look at a Maser. It will give you unexplainable things here and there as you drive everyday. The joy of driving a Maser is totally different. As for Q4, you will have to watch out for tires and brakes as they wear out in speed of light. I had to go through 3 sets of front tires and 2 sets of rear tires in 25K miles... Of course 2 sets of front and a set of rear brakes including rotors too... It is just different fun to drive a Maser. All of my previous Maser did not have to go to the shop besides annual svc while I owned them. It is better than you think. Although they will discontinue Ghibli and QP next year. Oh... Do not drive a Maser in normal mode.. Mine stays on sports mode 24/7. My other cars aren't happy as I take this one out everyday even on weekends... I had 50/50 portion of German/Italian cars in my garage few years ago but now it is 90% Italian. Graduated from German cars.. Even my son drives his 2nd Giulia and loves it.
Awesome. Now with the q4 how is the ride quality? Is the skyhook suspension needed? Also is interior insulation good? Is the cabin noisy?
To see a Maserati driving on the road, is like suddenly meeting a girl of unusual beauty walking down the street.
She immediately sinks into the soul, the heartbeat quickens, its hard to take your eyes away and after that, you'll still think about her. She is special one.
And then when you think about a long term relationship, a chill gets sent down your spine
@@davidlake611 😂😂
Simp
God damn it, I love these cars so much! If only someone would build them right…
Superb....Maserati plays on another league....since I was a child and I'm 50, remember the smell of the leather of those 220, 250 and 280 of a dealership that was near my home. I've always loved this brand....good video!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I actually really like what I saw. The interior is a clean, elegant design - looks high quality. The exterior is pretty good looking. Sounds great, pretty good powertrain. Maserati is still a pretty cool brand to own. If I were in the market I'd definitely consider this.
The interior is full of Chrysler parts, it doesn’t feel high quality.
@@alh06that’s what i’m saying it looks sexy but for msrp it not a fair price at all get an older one they depreciate so fast like 75%
there is just something about Maserati sound... its so damn good
The Ghibli really seems like its aging quite well. Especially in the interior department. Way more cohesive and attractive than whatever the hell Mercedes is doing
The MSRP was always just a price anchor on these. Every dealer I've ever seen has always had a huge discount off MSRP
The Ghibli’s interesting. I own a 2016 SQ4 and it has great character; Lovely exhaust, decent handling. It’s a fun car. But to own for the past 5 years? Mixed opinions. It’s pretty spacious and the rear trunk actually is the unsung hero imo, giving tons of storage space. Keep in mind it’s a long car. The issue I constantly have, however, especially owning it where winters get cold, is the car does not start when it gets below freezing. You have to jump start it each time and I just swapped out the battery with a new one. I’m not sure what the issue is, but after the hassles, it’s a fun drive.
My neighbour daily drives a 2016 SQ4 in Toronto and it starts up just fine in the winter. Something is definitely very wrong with your car.
@@Official_MikeyT Think it’s a battery issue? If that’s the case for your neighbor then I will DEFINITELY get my Ghibli fixed up
@@bwofficial1776 They’ll never know about the dude turning traction control off and doing donuts in the New England snow here in the U.S.
There is something wrong with the battery system then
@@cactimungus9628 something is wrong with yours my friend. I have one in western Canada. No plug either. Starts every time. I once left it outside over 3 days in -30C weather. Started without issue. Get yours checked.
Even though the design is a little old by now, it still looks good, especially compared to modern BMWs! 🤣
A pile of rocks looks better than a modern BMW
I feel like I hit the sweet spot with my 2018 4 series. Has the tech and the analog components.
Even with a $25,000 discount it’s about $20,000 too expensive. That puts it at about $88K, but a truly honest MSRP would be around $68-$75K.
agree
This just means the used ones are even cheaper. I own a used stelvio and it was a steal
Just wait 3 years and it will be more than half off original MSRP with less than 30,000 miles.
@@dirkcurritzki9585 That’s because it will break down.
These are the only cars we have to mark down
I really WANT to like these Ghiblis if they're more reliable. When I say more reliable, I don't mean Toyota reliability. I want B58, C43 - ish reliability. These Maseratis sound beautiful.
In my experience the Ghibli is more reliable than a bmw
They're decently reliable, on par with the Germans. They've been putting that Ferrari-designed V6 on everything. You do have to make sure to have good batteries because the electronics *hate* voltage drops.
@@ferraerati1234 Correct... Once, I had a CL65 AMG and Maserati QP for my DD but I drove Maser a lot more and CL 65 AMG was a nightmare with endless problems... People have issues with Maser's reliability but I have not faced a serious one (Knock on wood) in my past 3 of them and the one I am driving now.
They are not bad on reliability. Know two people with them and they love them. I think Ghibli's (or all Maserati's for that matter) get a bad rap because of over blown problems with them. The same people who hate Maserati's and call them trash are the same who ignore problems with vehicles like Tesla's and BMW's. Overall, after being in Ghibli's I'd say don't buy new, wait 3-5 years and get used. Way better deal for what you get. I know this is like 5 months after you posted this comment lol
You are saying this is 424 hp and then saying "its not much, just a little more than you need", made me feel like crap with my 310hp sti
Use your left hand to start the engine. Thank you for sharing this video!
I'd go for a guilia v6 if i had this kind of money
5:24 I like how the car lets off those grunts. What exactly is the term or cause of this? It's on those Audi sports cars too.
As gorgeous as the Ghibli is, I can’t help but wish that Maserati had chosen another name. My father had a 1971 Maserati Ghibli, which has to be one of the most gorgeous cars ever, there are no bad angles to view it from. The 4.9 liter V8 is a beast, and it manages to sound beautiful and brutal at the same time. It’s a big car, and luckily the original owner ordered it with the optional power steering, making it a very easy car to drive at slower speeds. It was pitted against the Ferrari 365gtb/4 “Daytona”’ when they were new, but it’s a much easier car to drive. I’ve had the Ghibli up to 150 mph, and it’s very stable.
Can you try to find a manual 2013-2016 Dodge dart to test drive? I have one but in automatic, and nobody on youtube has a good video showcasing the manual Dart. Everyone on the internet sees these as pos but these are fun little cars and i just wanna see what your thoughts are on it.
there was an nice car the Ferrari engine are so powerful💪
I'd like to see you drive an AMG GLC43.
5:54 pfffff yeah right🤣
Can't wait with the Grecale coming soon though
I was kinda surprised by how much the rear end of this car looks like the average econo sedan from Toyota/Subaru. Its weirdly "ordinary"
... Well, there is nothing (extra) special about this car, except the trident badge...oh, and the "exclusivity" of a Maserati.
@@K03sport and a ferrari produced v8, but yeah
The real question is, Can the door jams fit a tube of toothpaste in them?
lol a lot of cars have that
400+hp may not seem like a lot nowadays, but people who remember the 90s and early 2000s can appreciate that 400 is more than most people really need
Dream car 😊
Cool video. 🚗
Hey Tedward. It is possible to see at least 2 generations of Ford Thunderbird? I can't find cool POV videos of T-Birds on YT . It might be an interresting content. Cheers!
Look into the Mecom Auto Auction. See what it Auction off at. I'd guess anywhere between 15-20 thousand.
I work at a Maserati dealership. In a sea of modern hybrids and over complicated junk, the Ghibli is a surprisingly charming drivers car.
If anybody is looking to get one, let me know. I’d love to help out
Rank the best maseratis out right now in terms of reliability, cost, performance
@@niraj7616 In my eyes, it's really just the GranTurismo that stands out as the best. A clean, low mileage late example will go for about $90K but it delivers the best looks, driving experience and reliability by far. That 4.7L Ferrari V8 is incredibly intoxicating. Not to mention it's the only Maz that will hold it's value fairly well. (New GT may change that but it's going to be a very different car - TT V6 w/AWD so maybe not)
Second place, I'd put a 2019ish Ghibli, which can be had for about $35k-$55k with all wheel drive and 424hp. Performance and practicality is very good for the price, but watch reliability - definitely go for a low mileage example if you can.
Quattroporte/Levante is a close third. Performance practicality and reliability are about the same but handling is slightly worse as it's a larger car compared to Ghibli.
Don't bother with anything older like a 4200GT. They can be tempting at $25Kish but the trans will break if you look at it the wrong way and looks and performance are nothing special by modern standards.
Baby Trofeo!
Will be worth buying used for 40k after 2 years of depreciation. I donno what Maserati is smoking having this at 113k originally.
Disagree. Parts availability and pricing is a deal breaker
Not trying to hate on the Maserati but even at 90k still not worth it compared to the competition. I’d rather get a CT4 blackwing, Alfa, base M5 etc…
The question becomes....can you get those for MSRP? or are those actually 10k markups as well?
Are they really do ADM for a m5? That’s new info
@@stevea471 Unless you can get a dealer to give you a proper order slot with a deposit + in writing that they won't sell it from under you (a new theme at BMW dealers I've seen on Bimmerpost), yes there are ADMs on a lot of popular configs once they hit the lot.
3:37
"adequate power....you could lend this to your kids" sounds really weird when your parents car was a 2002 Chrysler Voyager.
even weirder when it's a 69hp fiat panda
Sorry Ted, I did not see a $90k driving experience, let alone a $113k experience. Maybe the need for these "discounts" is the market telling Maserati that the MSRP is too high and is not in line w/the image of the car. After all, a chrome turd is still a turd. This is a (maybe) a $90k car that needs to be in the $70ks. If Maserati doesn't like that, then too bad, such is life. Alfa Romeos also need to knocked down a notch too...
no need to apologize to me. I'm just telling you if you want a car under MSRP there are some options.
These cars have always had an inflated MSRP because their marketing strategy has been anchoring the price high and attracting people with discounts that don't really mean anything
I totally agree that this Maserati’s discount is evidence that it’s just overpriced for what it is. Interesting you bring up Alfas needing to be brought down too, however. The current Alfa products already undercut their rivals by a couple of grand-how much further do you think they need to go? They seem to beat the Germans in dynamics but fall short on the interior. But I’m not sure if the Alfas really need to be priced even lower since they’re already more “Acura” money as compared to “BMW” money. I’d love to hear your thoughts.
In what world are we living in that a car discounted to 90k makes it reasonable or competitive. Fucking hell I got off track somewhere 🤦♂️
Wait... is that the BMW B58 engine? It sounds exactly the same.
The gauge cluster is a LCD screen that can be configured many different ways.
Man you really should create some Mazda RX content for the Wankel cult. Keep up with the good work.
440hp doesn't sound like a lot ? That's like 350 over what my car makes xD
it's "not a lot" to the power insane factory cars of today, it's plenty of power
Yeah I'm vibin with 130-something hp lol
Discounts will help you pay for all the repairs
Wouldn’t you just use the warranty?
This car does not look high end at all. Look at the interior of a S Class. Even if you took away the Mercedes logo you know that is a special car. The starting price is about the same but the interior and exterior blows the Maserati away. I think Maserati messed up by making cheaper models to get more customers. A decade ago the price of your average Maserati was $125k. Now they have some models starting in the high 60s.
If i had kids, I would never lend this car to them! Too expensive.
There's a reason it's discounted. I love the look and sound of Maseratis, but they are piles of junk that start falling apart after a couple of years.
@@bwofficial1776 So Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani. Well, there goes half the supercar makers. 😁
Besides the obvious fact that one can just continue to throw money at it assuming they have it, I'll never understand how anyone owns these for over a year. Maybe no one does! 😂 I honestly don't know the full truth of the matter 1st hand, but one doesn't have to dig to far to understand why 16k miles is incredibly high milage for an Italian car. God forbid something is engaging, beautiful, AND properly built & realistically serviceable. Gotta go back in time for that.
all cars breaks down, especially after a couple of years lol
@bbqnachos you've never owned a Toyota or Honda clearly 😆 Obviously they break too & I've had a few serious Honda issues, but generally speaking, they are built better than anything else on the road & have quality control which is UNMATCHED. It's not even close.
fantastični analogni instrumenti
it's a shame these things have the same interior as a dodge dart
😭Maserati is blocked from the chat. What kinda price is $114k?! WILD. With great options like a Corvette, a Lexus, an RS 3 etc., why bother?
Cool sound, decent looks, good driving experience. However, I always think of Doug DeMuro shoving a tube of toothpaste in the doorgap when I spot a Ghibli...
I instead actively try not to think about De Muro under no circumstances, and I must say it makes life better. Try that.
@Daniele Regoli Facts! Doug is great in all, but the car community thinks way too high of him. I know 2 people who own these and they think they're great. They have nothing but praise for the brand. They never have had an issue, as opposed to the people I know with BMW's which wish they never bothered buying them.
For less than half this cars discounted price you could get a perfect 50k mile e39 m5, that will get you similar performance, throw an android head unit in there and it’s practically a modern sports car. Tell me I’m wrong
The best car used for $45-50k. Rule of thumb, never buy a new maserati
W
And then it spends half the time in the shoppe. No thanks :)
Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. It's still a fiat!
Overpriced Chrysler
Discount, yes. That $25,000 discount will go in repairs. Maserati are money pits no matter how well you'll maintain it.
they are really not
Warranty. It’s new lol
@@TedwardDrives I did not have any issues with my previous ones... And once it gets out of annual service, car feels completely new and wants to go on the track....