1786 Off The Shelf Inexpensive Heating
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This man and his team should be on the TV , just like the public information shorts that used to be on TV. 👍🐝🌞
Learning from TV is a lost cause now, unfortunately. Even TLC, originally “The Learning Channel”, is total nonsense now.
Yes, back when government was better at feigning concern and care for their citizens.
I used to love "How?" as child.
The government and mainstream TV go together they don't want people to be independent especially off the grid
@@5roundsrapid263 They have "reality shows" which are just filthy people that curse for pay!
I used to watch TLC and Discovery to LEARN interesting things, but now I watch my old James Burke DVDs now.
And Rob's stuff....
"making biodiesel is about as complicated as making a cup of tea" always a treat!
I will now be able to eat as well as keep warm because of your teachings. I can not thank you enough.
Making tea is easy.. keeping it in my mug after you had me drill holes in it a few weeks ago..is trickier..
With all these heaters you’ve got kicking around that building, if you lit them all together, you’d be able to grow bananas 😀
Climate change becomes than a huge issue :)
Rob could collect all the gas from the haters and heat the building!
With this crazy weather we got this year, I appreciate you telling everyone how to keep warm, recharge batteries and just generally be safe. Thank you!
This is just great for indoor usage without the smell of hydrocarbons. Great information for us to know Robert. Look forward to try this myself. No smell when is use is just GREAT.
Hey Rob that is a great little kit for sure . A good video would be to test a carbon monoxide alarm with one or maybe there is a carbon monoxide meter with a numerical display that can show different fuels you test in the burners . Would be super interesting ! 👍🏻
Thanks for a great and easy option Robert
The only channel i have seen that numbered the videos for easy reference. Great idea.
Great work your doing, brilliant!
Any yet another winner Thank you Robert.
great video, just ordered it as a backup, thankyou for sharing your knowledge.
That seems like a nice alternative to a patio heater for those of us who don't like lugging big calor gas bottles around, lovely.
I just flicked back to see how you made the biodiesel and it is really tempting to have a go even though I don't need to. Here is a challenge if you haven't already done it. When I was a kid we had gravity fed paraffin pot heaters that vented to the chimney. I wonder if people still have them? Could you build one on the cheap that ran off your biodiesel? My motivation is thinking about condensation. A quick Google and I get 1l water for every 1l of biodiesel = 1l water in the air for 9 kwh. Over the course of several days with a couple of people breathing as well it is going to get damp unless you have some decent ventilation and if you increase the ventilation too much you are going to blow away a lot of the warmth you've built up.
This is the one I've been waiting for!
Question: is it possible that the kerosene is being vaporised and burned and the veg oil is being left behind, this would render it a standard kerosene burner.
The reason why I suspect this is because that flame is too clean!
Keep up the great work Robert.
actually have this.... the little stove leaks fuel like a siv if you tip it a little, because the fuel can underneath isn't sealed to the rest of the housing. Just held on by spot welds.
Thanks for your time and knowledge. Enjoy all your videos
If you're so worried about health and safety that you freeze yourself to death because you're afraid to have a fire, then you have carried things MUCH too far.
Every year people die during winter power outages from carbon monoxide poisoning, because they either don't know the danger or they ignore it. Heating indoors with any fuel requires forethought and care, especially in newer homes which are far better sealed than anything built before 1980.
@@kmoecub In the 80's was when we first started playing with "Super Insulated Homes."
Some were sealed so tightly you had to crack a window so the fire could draft in the fireplace.
We had a LOT to learn.
That's it, I've only got a desk with a bunch of paper, that's why I try everything in origami
Is the stove output adjustable? It would be interesting to see a bean can heater portion with a sand battery built in. The metal part would create quick heat, and the sand battery would release heat overnight when you snuff the stove before bed 😀. This heater running a Stirling, charging a power station would be an awesome diy Combined Heat Power system 👍👍.
I after watching your video on a sand battery I bought some fire bricks and built a 4 foot (1.2 meters) monstrosity in my offgrid home around a 9000 btu propane Little Buddy heater. It works great.
You are absolutely awesome! I watch your videos all the time, we are kindred spirits no doubt! Thank you for all the videos, this is definitely my favorite channel🥳❤️
excellent... as always and thank you (p.s. I would have knocked that glass over at least four times in the time it took to assemble those things 😀)
..Hehe...I was thinkin the same thing, lol
This looks like a wood gasifier stove, inverted and supported, over a cat food can stove, all of which I already have on-hand. I think I'll try that.
My Gran had a parrafin heater in her bathroom back in the 60's and the thing stank to high heaven when it was lit. You also need ventilation with these so it tends to cancel the heat out.
Just picked up one of these stoves really cheap, just waiting for the shops to open again to pick up some lamp oil just to start with, really looking forward to having a nice warm workshop.
"I can't smell a thing". Right, CO and CO2 are odorless.
Thank you Robert! Merry Christmas!
Your awesome!
Super fun video! I'm a total gear junky, so this sorta thing is right up my alley! I seen a cool video on how to make a legit mini wood stove out of 4 dog bowls which I thought is very impressive.
In a very small space they tend to produce too much heat so my solution is to remove every other wick or more. Regarding fumes you could just add on a DOWNFLOW chimney ie it is cooling the exhaust and exiting it at a low point,
Reviews of the stainless part is the black paint burns off producing a bad smell. Would you recommend removing the paint prior to use?
I have one of those cozy heaters although I think it has a different name and its a bit shorter.. right now I have 3 single wick alcohol lamps with utensil holders over them, there are several layers of wire mesh inside the utensil holders and I have a couple of sizes of cans with top and bottom removed on top of the perforated holder, the cans are around 140°f ambient is 50° and the room is 73°... not bad for around $8 including fuel! Ive looked at the chinese multi wick burner before but havent gotten one... you can add cans to the top of that or plant pots to help with radiating the heat
Hi Robert it's so good to see your still doing the videos. I really enjoy your content alot. If there is any tracks on my channel that you may wish to use for intros etc just use them you have my full permission. Happy christmas my friend
The one provides the needs of the many.
Thank you for your informative video.
The first one we made those for camping. Just used an old metal coffee can punched holes in the side, left the top untouched and set it on the propane stove.
great ideas
Do you think that olive oil would work in this style stove 🤔and great videos on your channel 👍
Please put link to both. Description different in USA
You can search for them on eBay. They're cheap.
Very cool, in a hot way.
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Robert yea the health and safty folks would get a self induced full frontal lobotomy if they seen my home made weed wacker/trimmer head made from butter knives LOL
Great video. Thanks. There here are dozens of types of stoves and "heaters" to go on-top on Amazon but with a bit of effort (still easier than building one myself lol!!) I found both items on Amazon (in the US) for ~ $20 USD/ea
ha ha, cheers for these - the " "biodiesel" " reference should help those confused folk.
These are all marketed as outdoor heaters, not that outdoorsis a great place to heat, but the liability diminishes to zero - re. those who will sadly KZ- ZB themselves - anyone with indoor combustion get a CO monitor..
A few notes on the stove: because they have a cotton wick you can burn ultra low sulfur diesel in them. These will bring a half gallon of water to a boil but not a gallon. The wicks are loaded folded so you get two diameters of wick in each hole. Do not pull the wick down to lower it. You're better off cutting it, for if you pull it down too far it's almost impossible to pull it back up and you've wasted a wick. Most kerosene/paraffin heaters smell mostly on startup and shutdown, but not much while running them. Running the stove without the rings would give you an 8-wick lantern, though you will have shadows from the frame. If you have trouble with your match lighting all 8 wicks at once, it will start if you light every other one.
The tiny filler cap had built in lighter - a tuft of cotton (better replaced with a tuft of rock wool!) on a thin steel bar. You light the tuft (it’s just come out of the fuel tank! 😁), and insert it down between the steel rings, to light the wicks. Works a treat, and you don’t burn your fingers trying to rebuilt the heater whilst it’s lit!
I've got an older version of this heater/stove. It's made in Germany by Hasag. Mine was free, as it came with the house I bought😁
Superb Sir!
Would love to get your take on thermal acoustic heaters.
Somebody should try collecting the used candles from churches. That could be a perpetual source of free paragon.
Aladdin lamps have these long glass chimneys and burn very hot, but it's almost impossible to get their mantles anymore. If one fitted a metal chimney instead, I imagine it would make a good heater.
Hi. Parts for Aladdin lamps are readily available from Lehman's, and other online sources. If it's the mantle you're missing, though, you can easily convert your lamp to an excellent Argand lamp by simply raising the flame spreader in the burner about 1 cm. It will cleanly burn bright yellow, and give off tons of heat. I've been burning mine that way for years now, and much prefer the warm light it produces to the harsh white of the mantle.
@@Karl63601 That's very educational, thank you. It is just the mantle I'm missing. I've made a little holder that would hold a regular mantle, but haven't tried it yet. I was suggesting the metal chimney, because it would probably be better for radiating the heat than the glass chimney. How do you raise the flame spreader?
Okay. I'm assuming that you have a number 23 or23a lamp. You'll find that number on the wick adjuster. Lift off the gallery and chimney. Remove the mantle frame. Lower the wick. Now would be a good time to give the wick a good trim.The flame spreader is the thing in the middle of the burner that the wick surrounds. It looks like a thimble filled with holes. It is normally bottomed into the burner against an internal stop. Grip it with your fingertips (no tools needed) and twist and raise it about 1 cm. Toss the mantle frame into the bin, and replace the gallery and chimney. Job done. I've been working with these lamps since 1969, and love them with a passion.
@@Karl63601 Thanks for the advice. So I just raise it by fingers? That sounds easy enough. Yes, I have a 23. I did a good amount of research on their anatomy and was so amazed when I first got that blue flame. I've had some partial success with fitting a regular mantle on a custom frame. I would think such a frame would be very popular.
Glad you're finding the info useful. By the way, if you'd like to see this mod demonstrated, there's a fellow named Jeff Hall who lives on a boat and uses his lamp for heat and light. Go to his TH-cam channel and take a look. Happy New Year!
Can i safely burn denatured alcohol in this heater? With a carbon monoxide detector close by?
Great little gadgets, all you need do now is pop a metal biscuit tin full of your dry sand on top and you got a storage heater.
Just get a carbon monoxide detector, if you don't already have one. If the safety bugs you. Looks like you could easily make a couple of them from tin cans and buy two gallons of paraffin to make 10 gallons of biodiesel which at current prices would mean around £80 of fuel for about £30.
seems one could also use a can of chafing dish fuel, perhaps safer indoors!
Links to those two items you bought would be helpful.
You'll get both of eBay cheaper
Hey M8, it's hot 🔥 downunda during your cold months. 🥶
Wanna do some stuff on how to keep it cool.... . Perhaps when you're cooking during one of those Summer Heatwaves you experience for a day or 3. 😃
Desert-sun TH-cam channel has stuff of off grid cooling and heating
Condensation is my enemy. Brick built draughty garage with lots of cold iron and steel inside. Machine tools and motorcycles are great for catching all that moisture and turning everything brown. I daren't put any heat source in there unless it's running 24/7
I regret to inform you that I cannot place my trust in the product you showcased. I have personally utilized a similar metal "heater" and have observed that it disperses heat not only outwards but also downwards, towards the fuel source. During my experiment with a SVEA 123R white gas stove, this device caused my stove to overheat and resulted in the canister becoming over-pressurized, leading to the release of fuel from the relief valve integrated into the cap. This incident nearly caused a fire in my house, where I was conducting tests prior to embarking on an adventure.
I ordered one of those stoves a few days ago, and now I'm interested in that BS150 too. In the description stood that it would use 150ml kerosene per hour (in most of the times when it comes to stoves it is at a lower setting). And I can do a math :) Kerosene produce 10KwH, so with 150ml it would be 1.5Kwh at a lower setting, ofcourse in theory. Like you said, if you manage to get the fuel cheap enough this might be an inexpensive way to heat some space. In The Netherlands almost everything is cheaper than gas for the central heating (some people are paying 4,5 pound for 10KwH of gas.
Same goes with Germany. Right now try to build an oil burner. With slide changes Infrared heter. Done from a soup can ( big can peanut - 25l)
@@hiruyuuy1095 Moin Nachbarn (I'm living close to the German border) and I know that the situation in Germany is bad too. I ordered a Chinese Diesel Heater and it should be delivered in a day or two, but for the rest I like some other things to heat up the spaces. (Diesel is cheaper in The Netherlands than in Germany). In situations like these you have to be creative.
I'm in the U.S. I found what looks to be the same stuff on Amazon. The heater is as low as $17.89. The burner is as low as $14.25. The burner says kerosene fuel.
There used to be a really simple heating system that worked great , it was called an open coal fire !
Unless you have a council that removes them and strips the chimney liners out, then refuse to allow you to replace with your own.
Would it be possible for you to give us some company info on the products you purchased? searching Amazon is not giving me matching results by the name of the product though it might have a different name here in the United States or not be available
I have run them stoves on diesel in the past, just keep the wicks clean, very hot. 👍
I would be interested to know if you can swap the wick for carbon felt
Interesting.
I got a paraffin heater, cost me about 80. This looks cheaper I hadn't considered buying one of those 8 wick mop stoves and the stovetop IR heaters.
So you basically take convection heat (=hot exhaust gases) from the burner and convert it to radiant heat (IR). Interesting.
My cozy had a paint smoke that would never burn off
Brilliant only thing is Amazon won't post the heater for the top to northern Ireland.grahhh.
Regardless of the CO concern there's the simple fact pets, children, clumsies, and drunks are all prone to knocking over such open-fuel systems and either getting burned themselves or likely to burn down the house. I love simple solutions, but for me, safety of usage has a greater importance than simplicity of design.
Fun adaptation, though I'm loathe to purchase anything sold by Amazon or made in China - they have enough money, they don't need mine.
If health and safety had their way we would all be wrapped up in a bubble and kept in a padded room so we cant injure ourselves 🙄
...I've seen folks use that BS150 on their butane portable gas stoves! .. looking at that 'bio diesel ' reminds me of "urine" Lol. I mean could you use the latter... After all - zero waste is always a good thing..!!! :)
Tried this method and was a complete failure for me. The flame produced by the wicks with WFO+10% kerosene is 10 times lower than the produced by pure kerosene. The wicks are much harder to kindle and they extinguish after 10 minutes of burning. Needless to say that the metal rings surrounding the flames don't get red hot as intended nor the stove produce any significant heat.
I did the biodiesel as instructed in video 1784. 20g of dilluted gelatin powder in 5 liters of WFO, rest for 24h at 15ºC and then mixed a test batch of 1740ml of this purified WFO with 200ml of kerosene so around 11.5% ratio. Any help on figuring what might be wrong will be appreciated.
Aw man, I made a near-exact same blue flame vegetable oil burner. Seems like it already exists haha!
Great video as always Rob!
BS 150? ....... Now that is an unfortunate nomenclature!
Is there any way you can give links to the different items purchased in this video
Since there is no positive mechanical connection between the fuel chamber and the wick holder, I can see someone or some's child or dog knocking it over and burning the house down. I can remember "back in the day" in Britain, that houses used to regularly burn due to kerosene heaters.
Well done !
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Hi Robert, I was doing some research on plant pot heaters fueled by tea candles. And apparently what makes them dangerous is the paraffin contained in the wax, as paraffinic fumes in high concentration can create an explosion. Vegetable oils like the ones you used also contain paraffinic components. Hence, do you think they pose similar dangers as tea light candles? Thanks.
I'm sure Rob will direct you to the "Playing With Fire" vid.
The tldr is, don't do it if you aren't sure, any burner indoors (including a traditional gas boiler etc) has many risks including fumes, use enough ventilation and always have a carbon monoxide alarm.
There are horrible incidents with all sorts of heaters at this time of year, electric blankets, gas explosions, CO poisoning, etc. Properly assess the risks and then mitigate them. Like use a hearth and chimney for this sort of thing.
@@jimsmindonline thank you! would you happen to know if this could work with bio ethanol as a fuel? :)
I think that's why you need the blue flame it's burning clean. but check it out first.
How long once you fill that does it last for? And thank you for the video!
Guidelines lol has it really come to this.
Great content once again 👏
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
Hi.. how long will a Litre burn for in one of them? Days, Hours ? Just to work out the cost of running it 24/7 in a small room on veggie oil perhaps thined on a little ethanol
Please clarify the difference between a stove and a room heater. Clearly, adding a gizmo will not change the quantity of heat the stove is delivering to the room, but only provides a focal point of IR heat. Is that it?"
Would it work using the Carbon felt wickes??
Put a peltier on top charge a fone or light
hi robert can you do a review video on these chinese diesel heaters ,i would be very interested in your opinion on these cheap heaters from china . they seem to be all the rage at the moment :) and are selling like hotcakes .
He's already done one
@@ScoreGuru123 really thanks for the heads up ,i,ll go and watch it
Kerosene is liquid paraffin oil. If you cool kerosene enough, it solidifies in to paraffin wax!
About safety, why is it that in this video, you use this stove without capping the fuel tank???
Does anybody have links to both these parts on amazon?
Will that top part make the lower part to hot?
You must be a mind reader, every part you have there I have , including the bio fuel which I made a few days back ,will try tomorrow.
Do a video with this burning with the lights switched off
ROBERT: ... Could, in your opinion, that device function on Bio Ethanol and be even safer for indoor use? Thanks for all that you do for the community. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.
this was not your thinking that leads to this idea. you should have mentioned that this idea comes from me, a thumbs up and answering my question in your comments would also have been nice.
Links Please
Hi Robert, I wonder if you have an opinion on the warning in the instructions: Maximum fire burning time: 6-7 hours, is there you reckon a genuine risk with using it for longer
To solder some small vape pen batteries terminals in series, do I need to use flux? Is a relatively inexpensive Atten soldering iron okay for this?
Both dioxide and monoxide do not have a smell.
Couldnt this be flued up a chimney ?