Tell that to the FIA, the ban on 4wd was due to a Jeep wiping the floor on European rally cars in the early 70's. Audi was just the first European car company to do what Jeep had with Quadradrive etc.
@@852urklwhere did you read that? Audi took 4wd from Iltis and in 1981 put coupe's shell on a VW 4wd making it first mass production 4wd saloon and coupe
@@didzisdobe2557 Road and Track as well as dirtfish. Just google Jeep Wagoneer Rally and it will pop right up. Plenty of cool photos of the big Wagoneer running around a rally course. I am seriously surprised at how few people know about Jeep's 4WD system and rallying.
If the 200 quattro Trans-Am was modified for the IMSA GTO class, and had the V8 quattro DTM been originally developed for it (two years prior to entering the DTM) as the backup for the Audi 90 quattro IMSA GTO (to win more races instead of only 6), the competition would be completely overwhelmed and IMSA would be in total panic mode as Audi would've been absolutely unstoppable in the class.
@@yankees29 it's a normal rally technique... every wanabe rally sim racer does it lol And it was Walter Röhrl. He was the last man to win a rally championship in a rear wheel drive Lancia vs Audi's AWD cars. He might be the only diver I truly admire. Before he retire, I will have a taxi lap on a circuit with that man. There are many legends, but there can only be 1 driving God. That position in my world is preserved for Walter Röhrl.
@duidave4737Still conquered like whole Europe and to suburbs of Moscow, North Africa and needed like half of the world to take them down. Soviets lost 12 million soldiers fighting the german army which was the best army of its time facts
. Walter would have got the win if it had been in the dark and a foot away from a cliff edge ..He probably loved it as no jumps or people in middle of the road..
American cars it’s all about going in a straight line or in a circle. I've grownups during this era of new awd sedan from Audi and Subaru, kicking American muscle cars in everything they allowed to compete before being banished from American races.
Zakspeed viper? Corvette C7R and C8R? Camaro GT3? American cars are stronger than ever in the modern era. Also, where is Subaru even racing? The WRC that doesn't even come to America? They're not even in that anymore and neither is Audi.
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 Any sub $50,000 in your list? Your point on WRC prove my case about common USA drivers and market. Etiher have the biggest SUV or the most ridiculus unbalance power/weight car possible. I much prefer driving fast in low speed mountain curbs with a slow and dependable car than slow with a heavy car.
@@BigMacIIx camaro 1lt, ford focus rs, chevy ss are all sub-$50k cars that handle great on a West Virginia mountain road. and it’s not like sporty european or japanese cars are cheap anyway. aren’t we talking about race cars and not street cars? btw, ford is the only non-Asian manufacturer in WRC and they have always made great WRC cars
I love to see mighty V8 ass getting kicked by a small 5cylinder turbo engine. They just didn't like the fact that Audi can fit more potencial and the same horses in a small engine.
It's called having a turbocharger, it's not rocket science. Anyone can slap a turbocharger on their engine and have it be reliable as long as they strengthen the right parts. Naturally aspirated engines require more cylinders to make the same amount of horsepower, but they'll still have a better power curve than the turbocharged engine, and it won't necessarily make the car heavier.
@@didzisdobe2557The car. A car can have more cylinders and still less total weight, because there are other places that can be lightened up. Racing series like Trans Am have a minimum weight but there are other places in the car where weight can be freed up in the case of more cylinders. The Dodge Viper for example has 10 whole cylinders and still is one of the lightest street cars out there
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 it depends from a class,my friend and whom is in comparsion. For example the same Audi in DTM in 1990. On the other hand Merc' 190Evo and BMW M3 E30 where way lighter than Audi's massive V8 limo. The only thing that saved that car was it's 4wd,because that season was very rainy.
Americans don't realize that the driver behind them can literally read what's written on their trunk at high speed. No need to overtake, just keep drafting is enough to pressure an American driver.
4 wheel drive was good in the rain. I t was good when the track was breaking up. What was our real unfair advantage? The drivers. They would have won in anything.
@@pirkkaruuska5766 we (audi) had more tire wear than all the other teams. Why? We had heavier cars and front tires on all 4 corners, giving us much less rubber on the ground. There was absolutely no advantage in tire wear, a disadvantage.
@MrAckers75 Or they could've come up with something ingenious, unique, and of their OWN (doesn't automatically have to be the same technologies as those in Audi) to rival or surpass the Quattro AWD and turbocharged 5-cylinder engines, or get left behind.
Everyone in this comments section needs to look up Gene Henderson and what he did with a Jeep Cherokee in the early 70's. People crying "unfair" about 4WD happened long before Audi entered Trans Am.
again americans speeking without knowing.. 4wd (of the jeep Wagoneer) is not the same that all wheel drive (AWD, the quattro) you moron! Haha.. american, always stupids
Audi used it first, Porsche didn't introduce AWD to the 911 until the 90s, same with the Skyline GT-R and Lambo Diablo. Porsche's 959 used AWD not long after the Ur-Quattro introduced it, but it took awhile for it to trickle down into the normal 911s.
@@bremCZ No one else really had one, except maybe AMC. Nissan's R32 was a few years away and not sold in the US, Ford didn't sell the AWD Sierra in the US, so the Merkur couldn't be ran in an AWD config and everything else you can think of wasn't eligible for Trans-Am (Porsche 959, Ford RS200, etc). In theory they could have let everyone develop AWD systems and drove up the costs for everyone or they could ban Audi from using it and make all but one team happy while solving the problem.
The wash mashine with V6 is nice ! 4⁴ for much more tons this torse inside feel torge and tracktion , bring to look forward and think before over on :) ;) Eggcooker Series Paket but 4 Breskdisks front 17" and 18" 2 in back . Not cheap tyres :);)
Engineering over Muscle, Lesson 1
its not unfair, everybody could make a 4wd, but only audi was clever enough. to be clever or inovative is not unfair.
Tell that to the FIA, the ban on 4wd was due to a Jeep wiping the floor on European rally cars in the early 70's. Audi was just the first European car company to do what Jeep had with Quadradrive etc.
@@852urklwhere did you read that? Audi took 4wd from Iltis and in 1981 put coupe's shell on a VW 4wd making it first mass production 4wd saloon and coupe
@@didzisdobe2557 Road and Track as well as dirtfish. Just google Jeep Wagoneer Rally and it will pop right up. Plenty of cool photos of the big Wagoneer running around a rally course.
I am seriously surprised at how few people know about Jeep's 4WD system and rallying.
Walter Röhrl was the only unfair advantage
200 trans am, 90 imsa, v8 dtm. 3 audi sedans that were absolute weapons as race cars.
If the 200 quattro Trans-Am was modified for the IMSA GTO class, and had the V8 quattro DTM been originally developed for it (two years prior to entering the DTM) as the backup for the Audi 90 quattro IMSA GTO (to win more races instead of only 6), the competition would be completely overwhelmed and IMSA would be in total panic mode as Audi would've been absolutely unstoppable in the class.
Seeing them win even after the added weight and turbo and tire restrictions has to be one of the most vindicating moments in auto racing history
2:31 the video editing is simply superb.
at 5:40 i only hear MIMIMIMI
you gotta love hans stuck
One of the badass cars I’d love to drive 💪
Highest horsepower ever made was about 700+. They took it to rally with that kind of power.
At low revs they roar, at high revs they scream, no other engine can beat the five cilinder Audi engine on acoustics. Period.
One of my top 5 of all time amazing car
He was brake boosting lmao genius
Amazing drivers doing amazing things.
@@yankees29 it's a normal rally technique... every wanabe rally sim racer does it lol
And it was Walter Röhrl. He was the last man to win a rally championship in a rear wheel drive Lancia vs Audi's AWD cars.
He might be the only diver I truly admire. Before he retire, I will have a taxi lap on a circuit with that man.
There are many legends, but there can only be 1 driving God. That position in my world is preserved for Walter Röhrl.
Great Times with excellent drivers
I just love it when Germans kicks ass.
@duidave4737Still conquered like whole Europe and to suburbs of Moscow, North Africa and needed like half of the world to take them down. Soviets lost 12 million soldiers fighting the german army which was the best army of its time facts
@duidave4737not that kind of asskicking
Hans was a legendary driver!
is…
German 🇩🇪 technology vs American 🇺🇸 😂
. Walter would have got the win if it had been in the dark and a foot away from a cliff edge ..He probably loved it as no jumps or people in middle of the road..
They are why I own a Audi
Beautiful car 👍
It is somehow one of the best looking Audis, too. Very W I D E
why dont they make videos like this anymore, took me back
Sad thing that they came with laws just to get rid of Audi, in the U.S. 1) only american motors 2) no 4wd
Sore losers in the transam world.
American cars it’s all about going in a straight line or in a circle. I've grownups during this era of new awd sedan from Audi and Subaru, kicking American muscle cars in everything they allowed to compete before being banished from American races.
Zakspeed viper? Corvette C7R and C8R? Camaro GT3? American cars are stronger than ever in the modern era.
Also, where is Subaru even racing? The WRC that doesn't even come to America? They're not even in that anymore and neither is Audi.
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 Any sub $50,000 in your list? Your point on WRC prove my case about common USA drivers and market. Etiher have the biggest SUV or the most ridiculus unbalance power/weight car possible. I much prefer driving fast in low speed mountain curbs with a slow and dependable car than slow with a heavy car.
@@BigMacIIx camaro 1lt, ford focus rs, chevy ss are all sub-$50k cars that handle great on a West Virginia mountain road. and it’s not like sporty european or japanese cars are cheap anyway. aren’t we talking about race cars and not street cars? btw, ford is the only non-Asian manufacturer in WRC and they have always made great WRC cars
Focus RS is designed in UK
@1:15 is that turn 12 at Road Atlanta? Did this race at Road Atlanta?
I love to see mighty V8 ass getting kicked by a small 5cylinder turbo engine. They just didn't like the fact that Audi can fit more potencial and the same horses in a small engine.
Intelligence over savagery
It's called having a turbocharger, it's not rocket science. Anyone can slap a turbocharger on their engine and have it be reliable as long as they strengthen the right parts. Naturally aspirated engines require more cylinders to make the same amount of horsepower, but they'll still have a better power curve than the turbocharged engine, and it won't necessarily make the car heavier.
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 having more cylinders as you mentioned that's what IS making engine heavier than a turbocharged engine.🤦♂️
@@didzisdobe2557The car. A car can have more cylinders and still less total weight, because there are other places that can be lightened up. Racing series like Trans Am have a minimum weight but there are other places in the car where weight can be freed up in the case of more cylinders. The Dodge Viper for example has 10 whole cylinders and still is one of the lightest street cars out there
@@drumnbasssakuga9352 it depends from a class,my friend and whom is in comparsion. For example the same Audi in DTM in 1990. On the other hand Merc' 190Evo and BMW M3 E30 where way lighter than Audi's massive V8 limo. The only thing that saved that car was it's 4wd,because that season was very rainy.
Goats💯‼️
When he said Trans-Am drivers were tough, they don't look in their mirrors, Americans
never watched in their mirrors lol. Period.
Americans don't realize that the driver behind them can literally read what's written on their trunk at high speed. No need to overtake, just keep drafting is enough to pressure an American driver.
4 wheel drive was good in the rain. I t was good when the track was breaking up.
What was our real unfair advantage? The drivers. They would have won in anything.
*looking at a randomly walking by Walther Röhrl
Also one of the biggest advantages was less tyrewear.
@@pirkkaruuska5766 we (audi) had more tire wear than all the other teams. Why? We had heavier cars and front tires on all 4 corners, giving us much less rubber on the ground.
There was absolutely no advantage in tire wear, a disadvantage.
Funny how they go from mockery to trying to penalize them to keep up
Murcia crying like a little child because they don't build good cars "That's unfair " Haha
@@852urkl so what does that change? Nothing. They where beat and could take it
Audi 90 Quattro hw turbo hot wheels
Lol they just getting mad because thet getting beat im spanked by a Audi whirt a 5 cylinder
Of course the Audi's were fast , they had unintended acceleration 😊😊😊😊😊😊
It was really bad sportsmanship from the US teams. A real sportsman would have taken the challenge and would have developed their own 4WD.
Was thinking the same 😂
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Von 100 nachts im Regen
unfair..... sure 🤣
Can’t compete against 4wd so ban them lol. Maybe you too should make a 4wd car
It was a privateer series, you arrogant european.
Not my fault a poxy 5 cylinder beat your v8 land barges!
@MrAckers75 Or they could've come up with something ingenious, unique, and of their OWN (doesn't automatically have to be the same technologies as those in Audi) to rival or surpass the Quattro AWD and turbocharged 5-cylinder engines, or get left behind.
Everytime american arrogance gets proven wrong its "unfair" 😂, same thong was with the introduction of a leg kick by a thai boxer
Would you say the same about the zakspeed viper? Of course you wouldnt because you are a re+arded european
@@MrJohansen wow wow, straight to insults, dont even need to prove a point
@@MrJohansen oo look at me I'm Murican I can go fast at straiggts so I'm a race car deiver
Zakspeed is German lmao, and so is Audi. L
Crys like a baby.
Everyone in this comments section needs to look up Gene Henderson and what he did with a Jeep Cherokee in the early 70's. People crying "unfair" about 4WD happened long before Audi entered Trans Am.
again americans speeking without knowing.. 4wd (of the jeep Wagoneer) is not the same that all wheel drive (AWD, the quattro) you moron! Haha.. american, always stupids
Who knew AWD has a advantage, is not like every other supercar has it like the 911 Turbo, Nissan GTR, and lambo´s it was a unfair advantage.
It was a fair advantage.
@@bremCZ ?? They where not only one that ran a small turbocharged engine if we go by that, so no.
@@p0intdk They weren't the only ones that were allowed to though. Anybody else could have entered a comparable car. Sounds fair.
Audi used it first, Porsche didn't introduce AWD to the 911 until the 90s, same with the Skyline GT-R and Lambo Diablo. Porsche's 959 used AWD not long after the Ur-Quattro introduced it, but it took awhile for it to trickle down into the normal 911s.
@@bremCZ
No one else really had one, except maybe AMC. Nissan's R32 was a few years away and not sold in the US, Ford didn't sell the AWD Sierra in the US, so the Merkur couldn't be ran in an AWD config and everything else you can think of wasn't eligible for Trans-Am (Porsche 959, Ford RS200, etc).
In theory they could have let everyone develop AWD systems and drove up the costs for everyone or they could ban Audi from using it and make all but one team happy while solving the problem.
If someone is better then you. Bring them down.
The wash mashine with V6 is nice !
4⁴ for much more tons this torse inside feel torge and tracktion , bring to look forward and think before over on :) ;) Eggcooker Series Paket but 4 Breskdisks front 17" and 18" 2 in back . Not cheap tyres :);)