Definitely not the "owned" the caller thinks it is. Unless he thinks unnecessary wars of aggression, capitalistic colonialism is a thing worth braging about.
didn't we lose that war and isn't Vietnam still communist? So isn't that like me saying "don't dishonor my hard work volunteering for the Nader 2000 campaign by spewing your conservative garbage"?
I say let him talk about how he thinks atheism is destroying America and then point out how it is Christianity that is actively working towards a handmaiden tale type of fascism
@@Sharetheroad3333 except he would never be the type of guy who actually gets all the perks of that society: a nice house, a respectable wife, a breeder woman, status, not having to work a shitty job. These losers always miss this point: they too would be on the bottom of the hierarchy. Living in a barracks and never even allowed to talk to a woman, if not sent to die in the "colonies" right off the bat.
@@aazhie They are the classic example of "Playing Chess with a pigeon" It can't play, shits on the board, knocks over all the pieces, then struts around like it won.
I just subscribed to this channel, and that ridiculous nutjob has been on two videos I've watched under a different name. He's pathetic, and not that bright
But he argued with an apparent real attempt to make a point (poorly), and only went into a rant about the collapse of America and then screeching like an parakeet when he ran out of argument. I don't think trolling was the intent but the last resort.
Oh Chad. Chad, Chad, Chad. Take the ‘religiously-motivated self-perceived persecution chip’ off your shoulder, then call back when you actually have something worthwhile. When you can’t even troll without looking like a buffoon… 🤷🏻♂️
Wait.. "...fought in Vietnam for..." Man that is a strrrreeetttch of logic. I am a veteran who fought in Iraq and I definitely am under no illusions that fighting over there helped the ambient freedom quotient in the States at all. Wow... He was like tearful about it, what a sad place to be mentally.
None of his shtick was true. He's a troll, it's what they do. They create a dangling carrot for us to bite on where we end up making claims that we know what the "butthurt Christian" was doing and why. But since it's all a façade, they feel gratified and powerful because they were "smart" enough to trick us into believing the lie. We've all done this at some point, to some degree, because we've felt powerless and resentful. Except most of us grow out of it and become properly socialized adults. Trolls take it to an exceptionally creepy level because anonymity makes them feel safe, which means they won't face the same social consequences than if they did it in person to people that know who they are.
I'm a citizen of Soviet Canuckistan...but I appreciate the symbiotic relationship we enjoy with our neighbours. Whenever I see someone in uniform up here (soldier, paramedic, cop, fireman....) I always say, "Thanks for keeping us safe." The only vested interest I have in their job is the sense of security I get to enjoy because *they* maintain it for me (I have no family in any of those types of roles with the exception of a former stepfather who used to be an ER doc). Furthermore, I stood, and remain, absolutely against the invasion of Iraq...but I suspect it wasn't you who gave the order to invade. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less grateful than someone with a family connection/loss due to their service/sacrifice. Either way, my gratitude is 100% sincere. *THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE* *YOU SHOULD HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH; ONE OF THE REASONS I HOLD MINE HIGH IS BECAUSE OF THE COMPETENCE, ENTHUSIASM, COURAGE, AND DEDICATION OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU*
@@3MrNiceGuy15 Nope. No one I knew fought for the United States. We fought for each other and the rest of he world, the United States included, could just fuck off.
Bible is unfortunately true. If you experience the supernatural you would be terrified to question God unfortunately I have and I still turned away from God now I fear I can't be forgiven and it feels like a black hole is in my soul
Chad @ 5:02 "That process is to be sceptical. I am sceptical of the scepticism." Chad @ 13:32 "How can you be a sceptic if you believe in the supernatural?" Well, Chad, I thought you were the theist. You tell us.
@@TheTruthKiwi Obviously, most theists don't. It's something they have to learn later infer compared to everyone else. But once they do their faith eventually crumbles away as reality eventually sets in.
You could audibly hear the moment his façade broke even though the quality dropped. His Floridian accent kicked in, he went on nationalist rant, and started to fit the archetypical role. 14:13
this sounds like a flat earther: kris zylinski aka right the hand. He also got his ass beat by an amateur female MMA fighter when he said he could beat up any female MMA fighter. Its on youtube.
Caller saying that his dad fought in Vietnam was the most annoying part. Unless his dad had him late in life, the caller would be middle-aged at this point. This is how he uses his time? Also the U.S.’s involvement in Vietnam wasn’t about preserving the American way of life. Being young and ignorant and trying to argue for things you know nothing about is silly. Being midlife and getting your jollies trying to prank ppl on the internet is pathetic.
if his dad was 20 in 1970, had Chad when he was 40, that would mean Chad was 30. I don't think it's out of the question - but I agree that America's involvement was not about 'preserving the American way of life'. Or should I say, Vietnam was no threat to the American way of life, and so the war was unjustified on those grounds. To be fair it was the anti communist slogan that was used to get the public on board with the war though.
So well handled. I love the fact you gave him the chance to carry on trying to make some kind of point. And he just sat in the line… with nothing to say.
Love it! Your show is really hitting its stride. That dude just could not put any kind of argument past his topic sentence. I would rate that as the real downfall of our society, that inability.
Agreed! People will actually double down on their nonsense rather than reconsider their argument. There’s no debating anything anymore. (Some) People would rather scream at you while covering their ears so that they don’t mistakenly hear any facts that might negate their position.
You're absolutely right, too many folks who couldn't think critically if their lives depended on it. They form an opinion based on bad information and then throw tantrums when presented with facts.
It's not that he's unable, it's that he was pretending to be an opponent in the first place, rather than trying to be a serious opponent. He's not there to be real, he's there to waste time. A troll is what we call it.
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Yeah... I'm skeptical about his skepticism towards skepticism.
They were raised on lies.. Lies and fake promises is the stock in trade for the godly. The last thing I want is a lecture on morality from people that support an organization that protects pedophiles!
Hey Chad, if you happen to see this comment...my father did two tours in Vietnam. And he was an agnostic atheist. Don't you dare use someone else's valor to prove your own sense of morality. I hope by now you've re-listened to this call over and over again and now see how off the hinges you came across.
Man, that must have been the highlight of his LIFE, he's so proud of himself LOL. "i gOT paSt yOuR caLL SkReEnEr huRRRR". That's so pathetic and sad LOL. Get a hobby, dude, you're embarrassing yourself in front of the world.
This is why I left Florida. This childish mentality and actions are pretty rampant in the area I'm from. I never want to go back, especially with how backwards the state is moving. :/
I wonder what life has done to this person to bring them to the low point of trolling a conversational forum and imagining that it's somehow a good idea to do so.
This whole concept of "Our brains aren't perfect, therefore we can't know anything and facts don't exist" is so ridiculous. It's a classic Ad Hominem - they can't dispute the facts so they try to attack the credibility of human knowledge. It must be so strange to live your entire life without any facts or knowledge.
I have heard this guy before...he calls ALL the shows....pretty much he likes to here himself talk.....never answers a question and always speaks down ( or tries to)to the hosts. And that darn thing he does with his voice..... By the way..today I learned what a Fallacy Composition is. Cool. 👍
I stopped watching all my favorite talkshows for a long time. A lot going on in life. When I picked back up Talk Heathen, I noticed you two were gone and it was so upsetting. I'm so glad someone told me that you two had your own channel now and directed me here.
These call ins are interesting... As they clearly show just how ignorant, blinkered, polarised, trapped or confused people are and can be... Especially once indoctrinated. As they often have a fixed and narrow position and often lose the capacity to listen, think, rationalise or respond openly...and end up deflecting, clutching at and throwing in all sorts of abstracts or worse get personal.... Which unfortunately show's that their position is pretty weak...even to themselves.
People who believe in the supernatural but are still skeptics: How about anyone who is a theist but won't be vaccinated because they're skeptical about the COVID Vaccine?
It’s not skepticism to be presented with irrefutable proof for a proposition and remain unconvinced… that’s called denial and/or self deception. The caller was right about one thing: you cannot be a theist and also be a skeptic. You can be a theist and *call yourself* a skeptic, but true skepticism follows reasonably conclusive evidence and in the absence of that for any claim, a skeptic will withhold belief. The core tenet of most religion, meanwhile, is belief in the absence of evidence… so skepticism and religious belief are quite clearly mutually exclusive.
Straw man after straw man dismantled. So proud of you guys :D I also don't understand the interject things onto concepts such as skepticism and atheism. Where does that come from besides creating a strawman!? So he's pointing to certain individuals that call themselves skeptics while also holding this other values and that makes them interchangeable? Huh? Imagine me saying a core value of theism is terrorism because some theists have done terror.. It's absurd!
How the fuck is his mind knitted? I give him that he seems to be young and, I guess, is mislead by a awful environment he still grows up. He laughs when hunted down, that's a sign he can't cope with what was said because he admits the hosts are right and he's wrong. A typical affective reaction. It was literally fun to listen to you guys handling him, or rather destroying his bs views on scepticism. Well done!
I found out about you guys today and with every video I love you more and more! And this disscusion show how much respect you have for other people and how it is possible to have a nice conversation without screaming on callers! 😱 And Eric, your voice is just so soothing and nice ❤️
😂 imagine saying that you have THE answer to the universe and simultaneously wanna hold a point that THEY FOUND THE ANSWER and that we can’t find the answer... WHAT? 😆 😂 😝
I love Vi and Eric. So calm, so ready to kindly listen. Very open very sincere and very ready to be proved incorrect. So, theists, prove them incorrect..
@@jameskelly3745 do you really think they are the same thing? Because I guarantee you that you have some skepticism in you...even if you're a full blown theist. Unless you simply believe Everything you hear.
@@jameskelly3745 about the same, similar .... so you know in your heart they are not the same. Also why is your account one month old? Are you the same as the trolls and Poes that lie and harass on these channels?
Eric: Rome? Rome. Rome? Rome. Rome? ... Not Greece. Narrator: Little did Eric know that it was indeed... Greece. Eric would be so at home on the set of a sitcom
This happens a LOT with theists. They either misunderstand or try to use words or ideas in a specific way, usually in a muddy or weasely way, that doesn't comport with either reality or the way you have used it in the context of the conversation. Then you have to spend so much time correcting their use or idea that you never really have a conversation about anything substantive. It is frustrating.
Wow, you guys rock! This is but the second SG I’ve watched but bravo, you calmly handled that guy who was clearly trying to get a rise out of you but you won’t play his game. Subscribing for sure and can’t wait to check out more.
It's really not that hard, Chad/Brian. You can believe in a soul that exist after we die without believing in any deity. That the reason many are lost after death is precisely because there's no god. (I don't believe in a soul, for the record). Or atheist who believe we've been visited by alien life when the best evidence is always a pic of a dot. So it isn't always about anything supernatural or "spiritual." Every single time I've heard the phrase "I used to be an atheist" I think "maybe, but you were never a skeptic." Because even then they were anti-vaxxers, climate deniers or believed in countless unfounded conspiracies. Skepticism is simply having your beliefs match onto reality to the best of your ability. It has nothing to do with doubt. It should be anchored with a high standard of evidence and the lack of skepticism is the most dire crisis facing our species. Because how the hell can we solve any of the world's greatest problems when 40% of us don't even believe they exist?
Chad said that instead of using skepticism to validate any claim, he "discusses it". Hey, Chad. Discussing involves give and take, asking and answering, even if you ask someone, "Do you agree with the claim?" If someone is NOT skeptical, there is no discussion, only gullible blind acceptance.
Eric has come a long way IMO. I used to struggle through, but I'm really appreciating his methods and style now. Also, this guy reminds me of a flat earther, Red Pill Philosophy, who keeps saying skeptic over and over again and doesn't have the first clue what it means.
Also this guy resembles a flat earther in that when you ask one a question they divert, start talking about something else, then get mad and start behaving like a 4 year old
I cant stand Red pill philosophy. She hasn't got a clue what she's even talking about and when she says "scientism" as if it's a religion really does my heading.
The big issue is the misunderstanding of definitions. I dont want to be misrepresented and I dont want to misrepresent my fellow human. This conversation has been "us vs. them" for too long.
This call is a representation of the struggle skeptics have in their attempts to understand a theist point of view. While trying to figure it all out, theists take it as a challenge and attack the skeptics. Guys like Chad are just making things worse, deciding to "attack" by proving how ignorant he is... and then being proud of it.
A lot of us skeptics are already quite familiar with the theist point of view. The struggle is keeping the theists on track to make any valid arguments.
You guys need/should record names numbers and the voices of your troll callers and give them to your call screeners so they can better identify these peoples.
I think they do, but let them in for entertainment purposes or to defeat their arguments again and again. As a viewer, we just see bad ideas/beliefs deconstructed. New viewers hear why that idea is incorrect. And the caller exposes themselves as fool and/or dishonest.
Im in South Africa and have been watching all the atheist shows for year. I know you know Tracy Harris and could you please ask her to be a guess on you guys show, she also handles people so so well. she will suit your show , she is wonderful . please
"Oh, honey. Chad, we're mocking you, buddy. We're not mocking anything else."
Priceless
"My dad died in Vietnam to protect our western values".
There is so much to unpack here.
Definitely not the "owned" the caller thinks it is. Unless he thinks unnecessary wars of aggression, capitalistic colonialism is a thing worth braging about.
didn't we lose that war and isn't Vietnam still communist? So isn't that like me saying "don't dishonor my hard work volunteering for the Nader 2000 campaign by spewing your conservative garbage"?
When I was in Nam we called it getting waisted.
And my uncle (Australian) fought there and said the place he feared mess tents when USA white and a blacks started shooting at each other.
More like committing war crimes.
I say let him talk about how he thinks atheism is destroying America and then point out how it is Christianity that is actively working towards a handmaiden tale type of fascism
Why? What would that accomplish. He would likely love that kind of country.
@@Sharetheroad3333 except he would never be the type of guy who actually gets all the perks of that society: a nice house, a respectable wife, a breeder woman, status, not having to work a shitty job. These losers always miss this point: they too would be on the bottom of the hierarchy. Living in a barracks and never even allowed to talk to a woman, if not sent to die in the "colonies" right off the bat.
@@SallyImpossible good point
@Nathaniel Elderwood if you cant see what fundamentalist evangelical groups and politicians are doing right now you must be asleep
Religion has harmed more people than its ever saved.
When the dude laughed at the end that was his last ditch attempt to convince himself that he was "winning"
Yea pretty weak and pathetic.
@@aazhie They are the classic example of "Playing Chess with a pigeon" It can't play, shits on the board, knocks over all the pieces, then struts around like it won.
I just subscribed to this channel, and that ridiculous nutjob has been on two videos I've watched under a different name. He's pathetic, and not that bright
@@aazhie extremely
He sounded much like Chuck, who is a regular on AXP, needs to work on the maniacal, serial killer laugh though.
“Never play chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over.
Then shits all over the board.
Then struts around like it won.”
Where is that from? I’ve heard it before, somewhere.
@@WolflordFenrisVargr I have no idea where it's from, but they used to say it on TH and I still occasionally hear it on AXP.
@@jessetheskeptic601 okay, thanks.
I am greatly honored to be the 69th like of this comment.
👍🤣🤣🤣 Exellelent!
Imagine being such a troll that managing to hide it long enough to "get past your call screener" is an achievement
But he argued with an apparent real attempt to make a point (poorly), and only went into a rant about the collapse of America and then screeching like an parakeet when he ran out of argument. I don't think trolling was the intent but the last resort.
he sounds so angry LOL you can just hear him trembling the whole call in anger.
I'm hearing it more as shame and embarrassment making him angry but I might be wrong.
It’s cause he was planning to troll.
Why doesn’t anyone get that?
Oh Chad. Chad, Chad, Chad. Take the ‘religiously-motivated self-perceived persecution chip’ off your shoulder, then call back when you actually have something worthwhile. When you can’t even troll without looking like a buffoon… 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah. So persecuted 🙄
He did
Under a different name
He faceplanted spectacularly
Again
and after he's dealt with the raging erection straining through his pants....
He also called Talk Heathen as Chad from Michigan. Came off as a jerk there too
🦍💩🕳
Wait.. "...fought in Vietnam for..." Man that is a strrrreeetttch of logic. I am a veteran who fought in Iraq and I definitely am under no illusions that fighting over there helped the ambient freedom quotient in the States at all. Wow... He was like tearful about it, what a sad place to be mentally.
None of his shtick was true. He's a troll, it's what they do. They create a dangling carrot for us to bite on where we end up making claims that we know what the "butthurt Christian" was doing and why. But since it's all a façade, they feel gratified and powerful because they were "smart" enough to trick us into believing the lie. We've all done this at some point, to some degree, because we've felt powerless and resentful. Except most of us grow out of it and become properly socialized adults. Trolls take it to an exceptionally creepy level because anonymity makes them feel safe, which means they won't face the same social consequences than if they did it in person to people that know who they are.
Kirkuk 2007, Mosul 2008.
Good times.
Thank you for your service
@@curious1053 thank you for your service, and for both tours
I'm a citizen of Soviet Canuckistan...but I appreciate the symbiotic relationship we enjoy with our neighbours. Whenever I see someone in uniform up here (soldier, paramedic, cop, fireman....) I always say, "Thanks for keeping us safe." The only vested interest I have in their job is the sense of security I get to enjoy because *they* maintain it for me (I have no family in any of those types of roles with the exception of a former stepfather who used to be an ER doc). Furthermore, I stood, and remain, absolutely against the invasion of Iraq...but I suspect it wasn't you who gave the order to invade. I'm not sure if that makes me more or less grateful than someone with a family connection/loss due to their service/sacrifice. Either way, my gratitude is 100% sincere.
*THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE*
*YOU SHOULD HOLD YOUR HEAD HIGH; ONE OF THE REASONS I HOLD MINE HIGH IS BECAUSE OF THE COMPETENCE, ENTHUSIASM, COURAGE, AND DEDICATION OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU*
Listening to "Chad" I think in his case "family values" means that his mother and father are also brother and sister...
his parents are way too closely related
@@jjboswell5043 ... twins?
Sooooo, if his Mom & Dad got divorced, are they still siblings?
Most of these guys that want to protect “family traditional values” are the ones that can’t get a wife or girlfriend because they have a skill issue.
Imagine thinking that anyone who fought in Vietnam fought for “America” lol
Lol, exactly!
Well the individuals fighting in the war absolutely did. Whether or not their intentions where misguided by the power at be is irrelevant.
@@3MrNiceGuy15 Nope. No one I knew fought for the United States. We fought for each other and the rest of he world, the United States included, could just fuck off.
They were told that and many believed it.
My dad fought in 'Nam and fighting for the country was the last thing on his mind. 'Nam had very lucid soldiers.
Perfect handling of the caller....just let em run and they don't know what to do!
or chad is just a knob
@@paulrichards6894 I agree, he’s a bell end.
Bible is unfortunately true. If you experience the supernatural you would be terrified to question God unfortunately I have and I still turned away from God now I fear I can't be forgiven and it feels like a black hole is in my soul
@@vapor9042 doesn't sound like a very loving God. Not that he would be if the Bible god was accurate anyway.
@@vapor9042 any evidence of that utter gibberish?
Chad @ 5:02 "That process is to be sceptical. I am sceptical of the scepticism."
Chad @ 13:32 "How can you be a sceptic if you believe in the supernatural?"
Well, Chad, I thought you were the theist. You tell us.
This what I wish they would have noticed.
Chad has no idea what skeptic means
@@TheTruthKiwi
Obviously, most theists don't. It's something they have to learn later infer compared to everyone else. But once they do their faith eventually crumbles away as reality eventually sets in.
@@guytheincognito4186 One can only hope man
You could audibly hear the moment his façade broke even though the quality dropped. His Floridian accent kicked in, he went on nationalist rant, and started to fit the archetypical role. 14:13
Yeah that was an exorcist moment.
Skepticism hurts make believe and my make believe especially. Not Fair.
Lol
@@jameskelly3745 I think it was a summary of the caller’s paradigm.
Normally put that in quotations to indictate somebody else's words.
Depends on how you penetrate nonexistent objects
"You are ruining America"
Actually, it's doing that on it's own.
Turns out America wasn't all that great to begin with. Nowhere I'd rather live, but we are definitely the bad guys in a lot of situations...
@@EustaBAracer True. And there are tons of places I'd rather live.
Ain’t that the truth
Yeah fascists and racists and queerphobes shitting all over the place pretty much from day one makes things kinda suck
Actually, atheism would save America.....no matter what theists claim about it.....
I laughed out loud at this emotionally unbalanced crybaby. Thanks, Chad!
I hope he’s a troll. He sounds unhinged
this sounds like a flat earther: kris zylinski aka right the hand. He also got his ass beat by an amateur female MMA fighter when he said he could beat up any female MMA fighter. Its on youtube.
Dude really just used this platform to scream "pedophilia" as if either host approves of it then did the joker laugh and hung up
He is from florida, and atleast 51 % likely that he voted trump. Ofc he is unhinged!
"Chad" is what you get when you combine ignorance and arrogance. A walking talking embarrassment. 🤪
Caller saying that his dad fought in Vietnam was the most annoying part. Unless his dad had him late in life, the caller would be middle-aged at this point. This is how he uses his time?
Also the U.S.’s involvement in Vietnam wasn’t about preserving the American way of life.
Being young and ignorant and trying to argue for things you know nothing about is silly.
Being midlife and getting your jollies trying to prank ppl on the internet is pathetic.
if his dad was 20 in 1970, had Chad when he was 40, that would mean Chad was 30. I don't think it's out of the question - but I agree that America's involvement was not about 'preserving the American way of life'. Or should I say, Vietnam was no threat to the American way of life, and so the war was unjustified on those grounds. To be fair it was the anti communist slogan that was used to get the public on board with the war though.
@Account NumberEight and Vietnam won so I guess the American way of life the the US and we Australians fought for must have been destroyed back in 75!
Pretty annoying for Australians to hear we were there fighting for the American way of life ..lol.
@Account NumberEight the u.s died the minute a Christian proclaimed it was theirs
“I didn’t say your were a bitch, I said you were being a bitch” - same energy as this guy.
So well handled. I love the fact you gave him the chance to carry on trying to make some kind of point. And he just sat in the line… with nothing to say.
that folks is what you call a "fake tough guy"
The Latin definition being…….keyboardius tough guyius
I wonder if they made these video calls, most of these trolls or bullies would be too cowardly to call in.
Great handle.
@@grantwing4942 they definitely wouldn’t call in
Fraudulentus lenta masculinum ('fraudulent tough male,' aka fake tough guy)
Procul occultus scribae
('far away hidden scribe,' aka keyboard troll)
I love that long pause after "what's the alternative?"
You could FEEL caller's the internal record scratch
I'm not sure that he had the realization that his claim of imperfect understanding included him as well.
Love it! Your show is really hitting its stride. That dude just could not put any kind of argument past his topic sentence. I would rate that as the real downfall of our society, that inability.
Agreed!
People will actually double down on their nonsense rather than reconsider their argument.
There’s no debating anything anymore. (Some) People would rather scream at you while covering their ears so that they don’t mistakenly hear any facts that might negate their position.
What I might be wrong. No way that is possible, it must be you. Rabble, rabble, rabble
If you get to the end, he wasn't trying to put forth an argument he was just trolling.
You're absolutely right, too many folks who couldn't think critically if their lives depended on it. They form an opinion based on bad information and then throw tantrums when presented with facts.
It's not that he's unable, it's that he was pretending to be an opponent in the first place, rather than trying to be a serious opponent. He's not there to be real, he's there to waste time. A troll is what we call it.
Yeah... I'm skeptical about his skepticism towards skepticism.
Most skeptical thought leads to agnosticism
Why is Chad talking about morality when he lies to the screeners?
They were raised on lies.. Lies and fake promises is the stock in trade for the godly. The last thing I want is a lecture on morality from people that support an organization that protects pedophiles!
Because he didn’t mean any of it. He even bragged at the end about how he got passed the screeners twice.
Hey Chad, if you happen to see this comment...my father did two tours in Vietnam. And he was an agnostic atheist. Don't you dare use someone else's valor to prove your own sense of morality. I hope by now you've re-listened to this call over and over again and now see how off the hinges you came across.
Man, that must have been the highlight of his LIFE, he's so proud of himself LOL. "i gOT paSt yOuR caLL SkReEnEr huRRRR". That's so pathetic and sad LOL. Get a hobby, dude, you're embarrassing yourself in front of the world.
Chad does a Tucker Carlson laugh that was spot on.
I love it when the callers bring the rope to their own hanging. “Hey, can I make the slip knot, too?” YAY!
This is why I left Florida. This childish mentality and actions are pretty rampant in the area I'm from. I never want to go back, especially with how backwards the state is moving. :/
Its expecially bad in Louisiana where im at 😔
PHlorida:
where fascism goes to thrive.
I'm skeptical of this person knowing what skepticism means.
The moment he said that he was sceptical about scepticism meant he had no clue. Many people are sceptical about quite a few putative things.
Sad Chad got so mad. 🤡
... when he mentioned his dad.
...with the doubts that he had
^--- I read this thread; I was glad.
I wonder what life has done to this person to bring them to the low point of trolling a conversational forum and imagining that it's somehow a good idea to do so.
Yeah, I just troll comments. 3:^}
@@JM-ot8ux Paradoxical transference is a fascinating phenomenon.
He was beaten by priests and nuns as a child.....
@@astrosci8864 they should've beat him harder
Victim of indoctrination like his parents were? Sceptics are those who attempt pull the curtain away.
This whole concept of "Our brains aren't perfect, therefore we can't know anything and facts don't exist" is so ridiculous. It's a classic Ad Hominem - they can't dispute the facts so they try to attack the credibility of human knowledge. It must be so strange to live your entire life without any facts or knowledge.
Trained ignorance. A church specialty
I can hear the desperation of that caller. It's embarrassing facing truth in a public forum.
He does it every week on every talk show
You two are WAY MORE PATIENT with them then I worry I could ever be. Keep up the great work for common ground!!!
This guy is struggling with much more than being frustrated with skeptics.
Good job handling that caller. You represented well. I appreciate that.
Vi and Eric are one of the best examples of how to have civilized discourse with someone who has an opposing view, even someone like Chad.
It really is a welcome break from the increased blood pressure I often suffer when I watch another certain show/host.
Edit: *used to watch
If you're talking about Matt don't know why he causes problems. He is brilliant and doesn't suffer fools very long. I like that!
I have heard this guy before...he calls ALL the shows....pretty much he likes to here himself talk.....never answers a question and always speaks down ( or tries to)to the hosts.
And that darn thing he does with his voice.....
By the way..today I learned what a Fallacy Composition is. Cool. 👍
This is my new favorite show, you’ve got a new fan.
I stopped watching all my favorite talkshows for a long time. A lot going on in life. When I picked back up Talk Heathen, I noticed you two were gone and it was so upsetting. I'm so glad someone told me that you two had your own channel now and directed me here.
We're so happy you found us! Welcome
These call ins are interesting... As they clearly show just how ignorant, blinkered, polarised, trapped or confused people are and can be... Especially once indoctrinated.
As they often have a fixed and narrow position and often lose the capacity to listen, think, rationalise or respond openly...and end up deflecting, clutching at and throwing in all sorts of abstracts or worse get personal.... Which unfortunately show's that their position is pretty weak...even to themselves.
it also demonstrates how useless discussion or attempts at education are with this kind of people which is incredibly frustrating and disheartening
In what reality did we fight in Vietnam for the freedom and values of our country? Also, we lost that one.
So tender and also so sad. I hope he gets better, love you chad.
I fought in Nam for skepticism. And I remain skeptical.
People who believe in the supernatural but are still skeptics: How about anyone who is a theist but won't be vaccinated because they're skeptical about the COVID Vaccine?
It’s not skepticism to be presented with irrefutable proof for a proposition and remain unconvinced… that’s called denial and/or self deception. The caller was right about one thing: you cannot be a theist and also be a skeptic. You can be a theist and *call yourself* a skeptic, but true skepticism follows reasonably conclusive evidence and in the absence of that for any claim, a skeptic will withhold belief. The core tenet of most religion, meanwhile, is belief in the absence of evidence… so skepticism and religious belief are quite clearly mutually exclusive.
Straw man after straw man dismantled. So proud of you guys :D
I also don't understand the interject things onto concepts such as skepticism and atheism.
Where does that come from besides creating a strawman!?
So he's pointing to certain individuals that call themselves skeptics while also holding this other values and that makes them interchangeable? Huh?
Imagine me saying a core value of theism is terrorism because some theists have done terror.. It's absurd!
Gaslighting attempt by an incompetent😊
How the fuck is his mind knitted? I give him that he seems to be young and, I guess, is mislead by a awful environment he still grows up. He laughs when hunted down, that's a sign he can't cope with what was said because he admits the hosts are right and he's wrong. A typical affective reaction. It was literally fun to listen to you guys handling him, or rather destroying his bs views on scepticism. Well done!
I found out about you guys today and with every video I love you more and more!
And this disscusion show how much respect you have for other people and how it is possible to have a nice conversation without screaming on callers! 😱
And Eric, your voice is just so soothing and nice ❤️
14:55 that went from depressing to absolutely hilarious. Thank you Vi
People who bang on about "traditional family values" usually don't have families which I'd like to be part of.
😂 imagine saying that you have THE answer to the universe and simultaneously wanna hold a point that THEY FOUND THE ANSWER and that we can’t find the answer...
WHAT? 😆 😂 😝
A Chad by any other name, sounds as foolish. Truly pathetic. Well done, Vi and Eric! 💙💙💙
I love Vi and Eric. So calm, so ready to kindly listen. Very open very sincere and very ready to be proved incorrect. So, theists, prove them incorrect..
The laugh at the end was a good example of how insane religious people can be
I’m loving how you two take calls!
If I say I believe in ghosts, it doesn't automatically mean I believe in magic.
I know that sharks exist, therefore I believe in mermaids.
@@jaycobbina9529 silly but CLEARLY you believe in sharknadoes, j/k
"If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't."
Vi, I know why Eric Loves You. That Honey was beautiful. You guys are an awesome team. Pity the caller wasn't as nice or credulous.
The ending is sooo typical.
Hostility, Arrogance, ignorance. The Christian trifecta.
Chad sounds a LOT like Luke from AZ, pushing so-called "perfect" knowledge as a requirement for reason. NOPE.
"Ma'am?" Did he just say ma'am? LOL!
Seems like he is confusing atheism and skepticism lol.
@@jameskelly3745 an atheist doesn't believe in god and skepticism is witholding belief without sufficient evidence. Two different things.
@@moikkis65 I dont see how someone can think they are the same thing.
@@jameskelly3745 do you really think they are the same thing? Because I guarantee you that you have some skepticism in you...even if you're a full blown theist. Unless you simply believe Everything you hear.
@@jameskelly3745 about the same, similar .... so you know in your heart they are not the same.
Also why is your account one month old? Are you the same as the trolls and Poes that lie and harass on these channels?
@@jameskelly3745 what is your definition of a skeptic? Please don't say atheist. I'm really wondering.
I really love your show. sometimes i don't know how you keep so composed. Good job great show!
Chad suffers from self induced ignorance that prevents him from digging into his flawed belief system.
Eric: Rome? Rome. Rome? Rome. Rome? ... Not Greece.
Narrator: Little did Eric know that it was indeed... Greece.
Eric would be so at home on the set of a sitcom
This happens a LOT with theists. They either misunderstand or try to use words or ideas in a specific way, usually in a muddy or weasely way, that doesn't comport with either reality or the way you have used it in the context of the conversation. Then you have to spend so much time correcting their use or idea that you never really have a conversation about anything substantive.
It is frustrating.
Wow, you guys rock! This is but the second SG I’ve watched but bravo, you calmly handled that guy who was clearly trying to get a rise out of you but you won’t play his game. Subscribing for sure and can’t wait to check out more.
Chad..your dad must be proud of you.😂😂
"That boy ain't right." -Hank Hill
His dad probably now regrets not dying in Vietnam since that would have prevented Chad’s birth.
'I'm mad because I'm mad. I'm gonna kick over your sandcastle cuz it is better than mine. Whaaaa!'
It's really not that hard, Chad/Brian. You can believe in a soul that exist after we die without believing in any deity. That the reason many are lost after death is precisely because there's no god. (I don't believe in a soul, for the record). Or atheist who believe we've been visited by alien life when the best evidence is always a pic of a dot. So it isn't always about anything supernatural or "spiritual."
Every single time I've heard the phrase "I used to be an atheist" I think "maybe, but you were never a skeptic." Because even then they were anti-vaxxers, climate deniers or believed in countless unfounded conspiracies.
Skepticism is simply having your beliefs match onto reality to the best of your ability. It has nothing to do with doubt. It should be anchored with a high standard of evidence and the lack of skepticism is the most dire crisis facing our species. Because how the hell can we solve any of the world's greatest problems when 40% of us don't even believe they exist?
This!
I’m afraid 40% may be quite low, though - hope I’m wrong
5 minutes in and Chad has already convinced me that he's not interested in seeking any element of truth.
Chad said that instead of using skepticism to validate any claim, he "discusses it". Hey, Chad. Discussing involves give and take, asking and answering, even if you ask someone, "Do you agree with the claim?" If someone is NOT skeptical, there is no discussion, only gullible blind acceptance.
Religion has broken Chadwick! There is hope for Chadwick, but only if he loses his religion!
The caller was aptly named.
The way y'all handled this was extraordinarily good.
Oh FFS. At the beginning I was just going to say he's confused at what skepticism is. Turns out, he's just a troll. His god must be proud.
I’m tired of theists telling me I don’t have any ethics or morals because I don’t believe a sky fairy
Eric has come a long way IMO. I used to struggle through, but I'm really appreciating his methods and style now. Also, this guy reminds me of a flat earther, Red Pill Philosophy, who keeps saying skeptic over and over again and doesn't have the first clue what it means.
Also this guy resembles a flat earther in that when you ask one a question they divert, start talking about something else, then get mad and start behaving like a 4 year old
I cant stand Red pill philosophy. She hasn't got a clue what she's even talking about and when she says "scientism" as if it's a religion really does my heading.
I agree regarding Eric - I still kind of feel like I’m listening to a therapist, though :)
If science is wrong then stop using technologies.
"My daddy" 😂 absolutely hilarious.
This guy couldn’t have been more of a Chad if he tried.
He's also Floridaman. But I think the Chad is more prominent.
@@brucebaker810 except when the Chad is hanging
He bewails the destruction of his culture. I say bring it on.
The big issue is the misunderstanding of definitions. I dont want to be misrepresented and I dont want to misrepresent my fellow human. This conversation has been "us vs. them" for too long.
Chad "we have flawed brains"
Everyone " speak for yourself"
Chad is engaging in epistemic dis-integration from the position of "knowing skepticism", which itself is a contradiction in terms.
"There are problems with skepticism."
Oh? What's that?
"It doesn't affirm the existence of God"
This call is a representation of the struggle skeptics have in their attempts to understand a theist point of view. While trying to figure it all out, theists take it as a challenge and attack the skeptics. Guys like Chad are just making things worse, deciding to "attack" by proving how ignorant he is... and then being proud of it.
A lot of us skeptics are already quite familiar with the theist point of view. The struggle is keeping the theists on track to make any valid arguments.
OMG that laugh at the end...
That's a "please put me in a mental hospital"-laugh if I ever heard one :D
You guys need/should record names numbers and the voices of your troll callers and give them to your call screeners so they can better identify these peoples.
Nope let them back on every time. Make it clear that this is the last line of defence against clear rational thinking.
I think they do, but let them in for entertainment purposes or to defeat their arguments again and again.
As a viewer, we just see bad ideas/beliefs deconstructed. New viewers hear why that idea is incorrect. And the caller exposes themselves as fool and/or dishonest.
@@wordnoise4741 I mean if I can pay money to see that happen again. I got 5 bucks.
Chad is a great example of what’s wrong with some people.
A lot of people
Are you not skeptical about other religions or off-shoot Christian groups that try to influence your beliefs, right?
Exactly
If you can't play Mozart, you can't know what a piano is... perfectly rational, 🤣
Im in South Africa and have been watching all the atheist shows for year. I know you know Tracy Harris and could you please ask her to be a guess on you guys show, she also handles people so so well. she will suit your show , she is wonderful . please
Vi: "The reason we started this show is to counter Matt's assholishness and actually be nice to people instead of bullying them."
He said skepticism is immoral lol!
Lol the word he was looking for is amoral