I just built a gravel bike with a corner bar. I wanted to run components I already had from a mountain bike that I cannibalized to keep the whole build cheap so this was my best option. So far I've been very happy. I will say that a SRAM Eagle shifter works really well. My thumb is right there for both shifts. Personally, I dislike the thumb only shifting of Eagle shift levers, but on the corner bar it just works for me. On singletrack I have handling confidence and on long climbs or road sections I've got multiple hand positions for comfort. I'm so far very impressed. I'm contemplating putting some on one of my mountain bikes.
yeah, before seeing this bar I was planning to buy a wide bullhorn bar with bar end shifters, but now I can just use this bar and even put hydraulic brakes. But I think Surly should have make this front horns longer to be able to put hands on it for resting position.
@@justdude8115 If the horns are the same diameter as the tips, which seems to be the case, a Controltech Terminator bar end extension should fit for an extra 20mm.
I’ve ridden drop bars off road since the 80’s (yeah, I’m old) Been running hydraulic brakes on my fat bike which pretty much locked me in to a flat bar until now. I just installed a set of these on my fatty, only put a short ride on them but I’m liking them so far. Thanks for the thorough introduction Neil.
Cool! I'm a mechanic at a bike shop and one of our great customers is going to have us build up a Trek 1120 with these handlebars so I was so happy to see that you had a great review on them! Cool! Now I have some ideas to share with my customer! I also have an 1120 and I love drop bars and maybe someday I'll give these bars a try! Again, thanks for the review and ideas for how to set them up!
This handlebar will make converting my 90's vbrake, single speed, MTB to drop bar a lot easier than sorting, purchasing; problem solver for long pull vbrake, brake levers, road handlebar. Great stuff surly
@Michael D H1' to 1/ 1/8 upper steerer tube converter with 31.8 four bolt stem. Specifically modernized those parts to try different types of handle bars and stem lengths in the future.
Cool. Definitely will make MTB conversion to drop bars a lot easier. Though I'm sure cables will become a problem for anyone trying to put more stuff on the front of the bike.
i’ve been doing something similar to this. been running the fairdale Archer v2’s, just flipped upside down. turns it from a standard riser/cruiser bar to a super flared, super squashed drop bar
I recently did a conversion to my 98' Rocky Mountain Blizzard with drop bars Ritchey Ergomax, 1x9 setup, a Microshift bar end shifter, Shimano XT rear derailleur, Tektro RL520 vbrake levers, carbon fork and it's awesome.
That’s very simple but quite an invention. I did need to get GRX shifter/levers, rear derailleur, brakeset, all hoses/cables, dropper lever, and handlebars so to convert an MTB to gravel bike, which cost me $500 range. I actually wondered why there’s no option of dropbar with D22.2mm when I was planning how to convert mine. Now we don’t bother to change to road/gravel groupset or Tanpan or barend shifter. Simplest, yet smartest solutions(and cheapest).
@@pedalingnowhere The best thing about it is very shallow drop from "hoods" to drop, I run compact road bar on my monstercross bike and it's either OK on drops and too high on hoods or the other way around
I'm on a home made Denham Koga which has transformed my hand comfort. 5-6 hand positions, better than a Jones bar. No more white finger... This looks highly promising too, thanx. Subscribed. Regards from NE Thailand.
6:00 in order to fully imitate the pose of the hood, it is necessary that the authors-developers of the bar lengthen the handles where the hood is, so that it is convenient to put your hands like on the hoods of a standard drop bar. Thanks for reviewing this bar 👍.
Thanks for the video! Immediately ordered the handlebar. After sleepless nights of thinking about practical bike components for my gravel touring bike. Using trusted mtb componets could and hopefully will be the way to go imho.
My Canyon pathlite hybrid which already does the job as a gravel bike and as a mountain bike with its current flat-bar will become the ultimate gravel bike with these corner bars, bravo to Surly who saves me money on not buying an N+1 bicycle.
I have a triathlon background so aero and drops have always been my preference. Bought a MTB to have a crack and I simply don't like flat bars as I seem to lack control and find them twitchy and uncomfortable on my aging wrists. In recent years I have moved to primarily a gravel bike with drops and love it even on single track, I find I have much more control with drops. I've thought about an MTB drop bar conversion but everything I read indicates it's potentially expensive and the geometry is a struggle. So I was going to sell my MTB [dual suspension] but now I pulling it from the shop and buying a Surly Corner Bars, excited!
This hand position is in jones bar, for non bikepacking and simplicity this handlebar is awesome, you can convert your hybrid into cyclecross, gravel bike groupsets in mtb and interchangeable of mtb shimano groupsets to road bike.. This evolution created new genes of bicycle to be design in mix parts the dream of every bicycles enthusiasts and creative cyclist .
Really liked the thorough review of the corner bar, very well put together. One bar nobody really seemed to cover was the truck stop bar. Maybe we´ll get one sooner or later???
seems like the ideal bar for mtb with suspension, gravel bar seems a bit lacking if they were to turn large wheels with a suspension fork in that position, now the lines blurs even more
I just used a holland handlebar and turned it upside down, It has probably kind of a similar feeling and its cheap because they are everywhere. I have a small drop which is enough for bikepacking. The hoods are my combo mtb brake and shiftlevers, fortunately they have a hand friendly design so I can grab them, cushioned them with some carpet stopper and wrapped bar tape over.
Interesting! I have a Scott Sub Cross, that I'm thinking of replacing the front suspension to a suspension corrected fork, (thinking a Surly Krampus). I could put this handlebar and potentially make this bike into a nice gravel bike.... Thanks for the video!
Very interesting and creative and removes the the need for new shifters/gears/brakes...the thing for me would be how comfy I could get the stubby hood bits. Maybe you could cut down regular flat bar grips and have them extending off the end of the stub by an extra cm perhaps?
Hmm interesting! I've never really rode drops for any length of time, but have been interested in trying some. Swapping controls out was what kept me from trying, though, so I might give these a go! I've been playing with a number of different "comfort" bars over the last couple of years. Jones Loop, Surly Open, and even some Renthal Moto bars I had laying around from my ATV days because it has similar rise and sweep to Tumbleweed's Persuader bars.
@@TK-OK Make sure to @ folks if you want a response in a reasonable time... I'm happy to respond but we don't get notifications for responses made without the @... you actually have to do some digging to find the comments that you've even made, try it! Anyway... I used some scrap, thin steel, cut in to two separate pieces and just crammed them in there! Hah. Not my best work, for sure. But it has held up just fine aside from starting to rust.
Hi ! Awesome video , clear answer for my question ;) -- smaler bags-- , Love my moloko ,and will be in love with the corner bar . Surly masters made it again :)
Might try these so I can get the SRAM Eagle drivetrain that's collecting dust onto my gravel bike (Jamis Renegade). As out of shape as I am...that 50T out back might be quite useful for some of the steep WV mountains I have to climb although walking would probably be faster.
i gave up on that dream and ended up buying a new entire gravel bike. the cost of swapping all the component is more expensive than buying new because of the ridiculous rising component price during pandemic
It’s an interesting concept having a bar that tries to encompass MTB & Drop Bar options, however it would be great if the bar could cope with internal cable routing & or or a break system that allowed the routing to allow for larger storage options on the handle bars.
I currently have a bullhorn on my all around MTB, it is outstanding for climbs and provides different hand positions, I'll give this a try to see if its any different or improve the comfort over a bullhorn. thanks
This is perfect for all the mountain bikers that secretly drool over hours of gravel bike pictures when their friends aren't around to see. After this will be the rigid fork conversions. Welcome to the Dark Side boys. Bound to happen someday, and that's okay. ;)
“LINE PARTY” Giggle giggle. Seriously Surly came up with a winner. Recommending this to folks who’ve been deterred by cost and complexity on making a dropbar conversion. Personally waiting for a silver alloy version (because style and weight) and hopefully longer bullhorns for usable hands on hoods placement.
This thing is awesome!!!! I’ve wanted a drop bar commuter with a belt drive and dynamo lights for a while but I don’t want to build one up myself, and all the ones on the market right now are flat bar. This should make for a way easier conversion than replacing the brake levers and shifters and I’m absolutely here for it.
I guess if you run it extra high so the drops are at an acceptable height it could be ok... predictably, I think the Jones bar makes more sense for a bikepacking mountain bike.
I've been riding drop bars for years and now I feel it's the moment to try a different bar, without STIs. A complete change, do you think I'll get used to it easily? I normally use my bike to run errands, go grocery shopping and eventual escapes on weekends. Cheers!
Moustache Cycles had a similar bar some time back featured at the Radavist site (bike is labeled Kristin's Emerald Mine) with a different flare up front.
I love the conversion I made to the Surly Corner Bar on my mtb which is now a dedicated bikepacking rig. I bought the wider version (54cm) and changed all the cables to be much longer so that I can fit more bags on the bar. I just completed a 190km bikepacking weekend with the bars and loved the new position. I also got a shorter stem with a slight rise versus the longer flat stem I had with the flat bars. You can see a short on my channel that shows the bike before and after. ❤
Have you tried those handlebar extender with curve. Adding it to a straight bar may look like a drop. Brake would probably still be on the top. But with your perspective can be on the drop extender...dunno.
I sold my moloko. Just don't like that much sweep on a "flat" bar. Less than about 30 deg (flat), or greater than about 75 (gravel drop). In between is not for me. And, the horns were too close together and caused wrist pain when caught having to stand up while on them. I could see the corner bar being a good option in my case.
That corner bar is so unique, that in the 1920's they were riding exactly this type of bikes, same handlebars shapes, and wide tyres. Roads were not that good then...
if you put bar ends on the nubs wouldn't you have a great aero position + a good place to rest your arms? kinda like a watered down version of the TT arms that stick out in the middle. If this bar is meant to emulate drop bars maybe it could emulate that too on top of everything else. Right now I do something similar to this on bullhorn bars, using MTB controls and I'm turning into a hybrid gravel bike. I will be upgrading to these corner bars when I'm finished upgrading the rest of the gearset.
I’m old enough to remember when these handlebars were standard handlebars for all bikes!! 🤣 They were rotated 180° but these are the same shape otherwise! 😉
It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the 46cm bar. Sure it is narrower than a gravel bar but the "flare" is huge so it might just compensate. You seemed pretty wide armed in the frontal shots.
I've got a multi-day gravel grinder in June and have to finger out what I'm going to ride. I'm a roady and right now don't have a lot of gravel or trail time. I have a 2011 aluminum rim brake cross bike that will need wider wheels and lower gearing and I have a 2021 all-rounder modern carbon hardtail with a flat bar. I'm thinking about using the hardtail over to cross bike but the flat bar is the deal killer. This might be a great option if it's actually comfortable for 4-hour rides. One of these, a rigid fork, gravel tubless tires and call it a day???
i went cross country with my flatbar MTB my hands were sore//cramped for a couple of days! switched to butterfly bars they felt better perhaps could try these out ^^
Definitely innovative; however, I favor a much cleaner cockpit and it appears a cradle and bikepacking bag setup would interfere with the cables too much. Look forward to your full testing! Thanks! BTW, the stache looks good!
Going with a narrow but larger circumference bag for a harness system like the Pronghorn would be a great option and wont interfere with the cables. Similar to drop bars, going with a wide bag will just get in the way of your controls.
I have been using flat bars on my surly troll for a long time and a jones loopbar was perfect especially with the 2.5 rise… but lately i got hold of a surly ghost grappler here in tge philippines. Since the grappler was designed for dropbars… dovyou think a corner bar would be compatibke? I can’t spend money on new drivetrain STI setup . Will the corner bar still wotk on the grappler? Nice video by the way. Very informative and concise
Great question, I had a 60mm stem on this bike, if I went to a 50mm, I think that would secure a more upright position, and a better overall fit. The shorter the stem, the more twitchy, so thats something to keep in mind.
Would you recomend me this for build a gravel bike? i don't have any componet rigth now so the only advantage i can see is that it allowss me to use hydraulic brakes or even cheap tourney mtb equipment if i'm short of money.
Any thoughts on adding this to a Cutthroat? I prefer the feel of flat bars and these seem to move towards that dynamic without fully losing drops. Thanks
I was thinking maybe if I got this, I would have extended the nubs part of the bar with regular flat bar extenders as this is my favourite position to ride. Would this work?
I had contemplated getting this bar to replace a flared drop I had on my “gravel” bike but went to the surly Molko bar instead. There were a couple of reasons; more hand positions and a slightly less wider bar. Where I ride many of the bike trails, paths are gated and I can barely get through these gates even with Molko bar. Are there bike gates on bike paths where you live that requires bike yoga to get through?
Maybe Surly could introduce a bar that has an actual drop bar for this? The way it looks is that it's not really a drop bar, it's an angled flat bar. In the sense that the bars are connected at an angle but the bars are still straight. Would a curve in the drops help with this? But I could imagine it having issues with the placement of the brakes and gear levers.
Where, oh where, does one get those lovely bar end plugs? Plugs are EXTREMELY important for prevent core sampling of various parts of one’s body. Screw in plugs are much more reliable that bash-in ones. The aero position on Moloko bars is excellent, even on gravel road downhills (Wisconsin basin). The nobs, or bar ends, do a great job of preventing forward pitching when one goes over a sudden rock or pothole, unlike a mere placement of hands or elbows without hooking anything on the top bar (even on pavement an excellent national team roadie found this out the hard way).
Those bar ends come with the Lizard Skin bar tape, they are really nice because they actually screw in. Many brands sell those screw in bar plugs separately, I'm sure your local bike shop has some.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom thanks. I’ll check Lizard locally. But Quality, separate, bar end plugs are very hard to find locally (CN), and even online (at least I haven’t found them). Quality = metal, screw, bit wider flange width to hold tape or very wide flange width to hold pogies in place. And for Moloko etc. you need 4, not 2.
Going back to single track real quick. Is it something you would ride on the reg on single track? I live in PA, where you can traverse over a lot on dirt roads and single tracks to make for longer rides, but I’m a gravel curious mountain biker through and through. My trails aren’t anywhere like out west. They are super chunky, primitive, with quick ascends/descends. Would this be limiting to my xc love?
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Surly's rnd is just a bunch of mad geniuses at this point. This solves a problem we didn't even know we had
Right!!! I never knew I needed this till today and now it's all I can think about!
Nope, it’s exactly what I was looking for actually. 😊
I just built a gravel bike with a corner bar. I wanted to run components I already had from a mountain bike that I cannibalized to keep the whole build cheap so this was my best option.
So far I've been very happy. I will say that a SRAM Eagle shifter works really well. My thumb is right there for both shifts. Personally, I dislike the thumb only shifting of Eagle shift levers, but on the corner bar it just works for me.
On singletrack I have handling confidence and on long climbs or road sections I've got multiple hand positions for comfort. I'm so far very impressed. I'm contemplating putting some on one of my mountain bikes.
Wow, Surly just fixed a problem that has been a genuine issue. I know just the bike I want to ride these bars on. Ordering one today. Thanks Neil!
yeah, before seeing this bar I was planning to buy a wide bullhorn bar with bar end shifters, but now I can just use this bar and even put hydraulic brakes. But I think Surly should have make this front horns longer to be able to put hands on it for resting position.
@@justdude8115 If the horns are the same diameter as the tips, which seems to be the case, a Controltech Terminator bar end extension should fit for an extra 20mm.
I’ve ridden drop bars off road since the 80’s (yeah, I’m old) Been running hydraulic brakes on my fat bike which pretty much locked me in to a flat bar until now. I just installed a set of these on my fatty, only put a short ride on them but I’m liking them so far. Thanks for the thorough introduction Neil.
Cool! I'm a mechanic at a bike shop and one of our great customers is going to have us build up a Trek 1120 with these handlebars so I was so happy to see that you had a great review on them! Cool! Now I have some ideas to share with my customer! I also have an 1120 and I love drop bars and maybe someday I'll give these bars a try! Again, thanks for the review and ideas for how to set them up!
I didn’t know that I needed this in my life. But now I NEED this in my life.
This handlebar will make converting my 90's vbrake, single speed, MTB to drop bar a lot easier than sorting, purchasing; problem solver for long pull vbrake, brake levers, road handlebar.
Great stuff surly
tekro rl520 levers. done.
@Michael D H1' to 1/ 1/8 upper steerer tube converter with 31.8 four bolt stem. Specifically modernized those parts to try different types of handle bars and stem lengths in the future.
Cool. Definitely will make MTB conversion to drop bars a lot easier. Though I'm sure cables will become a problem for anyone trying to put more stuff on the front of the bike.
i’ve been doing something similar to this. been running the fairdale Archer v2’s, just flipped upside down. turns it from a standard riser/cruiser bar to a super flared, super squashed drop bar
I recently did a conversion to my 98' Rocky Mountain Blizzard with drop bars Ritchey Ergomax, 1x9 setup, a Microshift bar end shifter, Shimano XT rear derailleur, Tektro RL520 vbrake levers, carbon fork and it's awesome.
Alright, we've got to try these bars. Looks like we need to create an XL 1/2 for these bad boys.
That’s very simple but quite an invention. I did need to get GRX shifter/levers, rear derailleur, brakeset, all hoses/cables, dropper lever, and handlebars so to convert an MTB to gravel bike, which cost me $500 range. I actually wondered why there’s no option of dropbar with D22.2mm when I was planning how to convert mine. Now we don’t bother to change to road/gravel groupset or Tanpan or barend shifter. Simplest, yet smartest solutions(and cheapest).
F yes mate, f yes, this is a thing I've been waiting for
Pretty cool, right!?
@@pedalingnowhere I can't wait to put my hands on a cheap rip off of this product :)
@@pedalingnowhere The best thing about it is very shallow drop from "hoods" to drop, I run compact road bar on my monstercross bike and it's either OK on drops and too high on hoods or the other way around
@@6ryba6 Agreed
@@6ryba6 .... which will hopefully be made out of aluminium
Aaannndd Surly does it again! Gotta love the wacky folks at Surly 🤙🏼
I'm on a home made Denham Koga which has transformed my hand comfort. 5-6 hand positions, better than a Jones bar.
No more white finger...
This looks highly promising too, thanx.
Subscribed.
Regards from NE Thailand.
6:00 in order to fully imitate the pose of the hood, it is necessary that the authors-developers of the bar lengthen the handles where the hood is, so that it is convenient to put your hands like on the hoods of a standard drop bar.
Thanks for reviewing this bar 👍.
I think there are extenders available online
Thanks for the video! Immediately ordered the handlebar. After sleepless nights of thinking about practical bike components for my gravel touring bike. Using trusted mtb componets could and hopefully will be the way to go imho.
My Canyon pathlite hybrid which already does the job as a gravel bike and as a mountain bike with its current flat-bar will become the ultimate gravel bike with these corner bars, bravo to Surly who saves me money on not buying an N+1 bicycle.
I have a triathlon background so aero and drops have always been my preference. Bought a MTB to have a crack and I simply don't like flat bars as I seem to lack control and find them twitchy and uncomfortable on my aging wrists.
In recent years I have moved to primarily a gravel bike with drops and love it even on single track, I find I have much more control with drops. I've thought about an MTB drop bar conversion but everything I read indicates it's potentially expensive and the geometry is a struggle.
So I was going to sell my MTB [dual suspension] but now I pulling it from the shop and buying a Surly Corner Bars, excited!
This hand position is in jones bar, for non bikepacking and simplicity this handlebar is awesome, you can convert your hybrid into cyclecross, gravel bike groupsets in mtb and interchangeable of mtb shimano groupsets to road bike.. This evolution created new genes of bicycle to be design in mix parts the dream of every bicycles enthusiasts and creative cyclist .
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Really love it
One point plus it’s clamp on 25.4, nice to build vintage gravel with quill stem
Thx for the review
I am new to flat bars and hate mine. This review comes at a great time, it’s just what I am looking for in a bar!
Really liked the thorough review of the corner bar, very well put together. One bar nobody really seemed to cover was the truck stop bar. Maybe we´ll get one sooner or later???
I just picked up my corner bars & wow what a difference from a frat bars
So informative one, Currently im having Jones bar but now I am in love with this bar
Just installed mine on my chisel comp … great alternative for several positions
Super sick bars. Carbon version would be welcomed in the future. Good job surly!
it´s out there, but not by surly.
Thanks for this, now I just gotta get me a corner bar. Such a great design!
seems like the ideal bar for mtb with suspension, gravel bar seems a bit lacking if they were to turn large wheels with a suspension fork in that position, now the lines blurs even more
For sure
I just used a holland handlebar and turned it upside down, It has probably kind of a similar feeling and its cheap because they are everywhere. I have a small drop which is enough for bikepacking. The hoods are my combo mtb brake and shiftlevers, fortunately they have a hand friendly design so I can grab them, cushioned them with some carpet stopper and wrapped bar tape over.
Interesting! I have a Scott Sub Cross, that I'm thinking of replacing the front suspension to a suspension corrected fork, (thinking a Surly Krampus). I could put this handlebar and potentially make this bike into a nice gravel bike.... Thanks for the video!
I'm on board in spirit. Love the idea. I'm 100% in when it's aluminum and not steel.
Aliexpress has a carbon version
Agree, it's too heavy.
And too wide, a bit narrower version in aluminum would be ideal.
Very interesting and creative and removes the the need for new shifters/gears/brakes...the thing for me would be how comfy I could get the stubby hood bits. Maybe you could cut down regular flat bar grips and have them extending off the end of the stub by an extra cm perhaps?
Hmm interesting! I've never really rode drops for any length of time, but have been interested in trying some. Swapping controls out was what kept me from trying, though, so I might give these a go! I've been playing with a number of different "comfort" bars over the last couple of years. Jones Loop, Surly Open, and even some Renthal Moto bars I had laying around from my ATV days because it has similar rise and sweep to Tumbleweed's Persuader bars.
How did you mount renthals ? I have mc flat track bars mounted using 1/2 a reducer shim but can’t find stem that fits 28.7 bars
@@TK-OK Make sure to @ folks if you want a response in a reasonable time... I'm happy to respond but we don't get notifications for responses made without the @... you actually have to do some digging to find the comments that you've even made, try it! Anyway... I used some scrap, thin steel, cut in to two separate pieces and just crammed them in there! Hah. Not my best work, for sure. But it has held up just fine aside from starting to rust.
Credit to surly to come up with this product.
Hi ! Awesome video , clear answer for my question ;) -- smaler bags-- , Love my moloko ,and will be in love with the corner bar . Surly masters made it again :)
Can hardly wait to try it. Thanks for the info.
I absolutely hate riding drop bar's, but this looks like a genuine solution to ppl who want to convert.
Might try these so I can get the SRAM Eagle drivetrain that's collecting dust onto my gravel bike (Jamis Renegade). As out of shape as I am...that 50T out back might be quite useful for some of the steep WV mountains I have to climb although walking would probably be faster.
Evolving back to a flat bar.
I think this is just what I've been looking for! Thanks
Clear and informative video. All all killa no filla . Great job even if I don't need one of these bars
I'm sorta in love. Unfortunately, just 4 months ago I (as you said) "paid an arm & leg to change all the components" :)
i gave up on that dream and ended up buying a new entire gravel bike. the cost of swapping all the component is more expensive than buying new because of the ridiculous rising component price during pandemic
Extra shallow/extra wide dropbar in 24,5 mm. If the price is right it will bring a new life to lots of old mtbs.
It’s an interesting concept having a bar that tries to encompass MTB & Drop Bar options, however it would be great if the bar could cope with internal cable routing & or or a break system that allowed the routing to allow for larger storage options on the handle bars.
I currently have a bullhorn on my all around MTB, it is outstanding for climbs and provides different hand positions, I'll give this a try to see if its any different or improve the comfort over a bullhorn. thanks
Oh snap, I know where that is! I rode there yesterday!
This is perfect for all the mountain bikers that secretly drool over hours of gravel bike pictures when their friends aren't around to see. After this will be the rigid fork conversions. Welcome to the Dark Side boys. Bound to happen someday, and that's okay. ;)
“LINE PARTY” Giggle giggle. Seriously Surly came up with a winner. Recommending this to folks who’ve been deterred by cost and complexity on making a dropbar conversion. Personally waiting for a silver alloy version (because style and weight) and hopefully longer bullhorns for usable hands on hoods placement.
That mustache is the most fitting for this bar
This thing is awesome!!!! I’ve wanted a drop bar commuter with a belt drive and dynamo lights for a while but I don’t want to build one up myself, and all the ones on the market right now are flat bar.
This should make for a way easier conversion than replacing the brake levers and shifters and I’m absolutely here for it.
I guess if you run it extra high so the drops are at an acceptable height it could be ok... predictably, I think the Jones bar makes more sense for a bikepacking mountain bike.
I've been riding drop bars for years and now I feel it's the moment to try a different bar, without STIs. A complete change, do you think I'll get used to it easily? I normally use my bike to run errands, go grocery shopping and eventual escapes on weekends. Cheers!
Finally we can use those hydraulic brakes we hid away when we converted to MX
I remember riding a construction worker bike few years ago. A Japanese bike with inverted handlebar.
I want this in my roadbike!
Awesome to have an option, go Surly 👍
Moustache Cycles had a similar bar some time back featured at the Radavist site (bike is labeled Kristin's Emerald Mine) with a different flare up front.
I love the conversion I made to the Surly Corner Bar on my mtb which is now a dedicated bikepacking rig. I bought the wider version (54cm) and changed all the cables to be much longer so that I can fit more bags on the bar. I just completed a 190km bikepacking weekend with the bars and loved the new position. I also got a shorter stem with a slight rise versus the longer flat stem I had with the flat bars. You can see a short on my channel that shows the bike before and after. ❤
Have you tried those handlebar extender with curve. Adding it to a straight bar may look like a drop. Brake would probably still be on the top. But with your perspective can be on the drop extender...dunno.
If you had to pick one for gravel/forest road exploring with some rocky trails thrown in, would you go with Moloko's or the Corner bar?
I sold my moloko. Just don't like that much sweep on a "flat" bar. Less than about 30 deg (flat), or greater than about 75 (gravel drop). In between is not for me. And, the horns were too close together and caused wrist pain when caught having to stand up while on them. I could see the corner bar being a good option in my case.
That corner bar is so unique, that in the 1920's they were riding exactly this type of bikes, same handlebars shapes, and wide tyres. Roads were not that good then...
if you put bar ends on the nubs wouldn't you have a great aero position + a good place to rest your arms? kinda like a watered down version of the TT arms that stick out in the middle. If this bar is meant to emulate drop bars maybe it could emulate that too on top of everything else.
Right now I do something similar to this on bullhorn bars, using MTB controls and I'm turning into a hybrid gravel bike. I will be upgrading to these corner bars when I'm finished upgrading the rest of the gearset.
90s mountain bike with drop bars into a gravel and gravel bikes are just 90s mountain with drop bars. The worlds collide
Interesting… May try them on my Salsa Beargrease.
I’m old enough to remember when these handlebars were standard handlebars for all bikes!! 🤣 They were rotated 180° but these are the same shape otherwise! 😉
It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on the 46cm bar. Sure it is narrower than a gravel bar but the "flare" is huge so it might just compensate. You seemed pretty wide armed in the frontal shots.
I've got a multi-day gravel grinder in June and have to finger out what I'm going to ride. I'm a roady and right now don't have a lot of gravel or trail time. I have a 2011 aluminum rim brake cross bike that will need wider wheels and lower gearing and I have a 2021 all-rounder modern carbon hardtail with a flat bar. I'm thinking about using the hardtail over to cross bike but the flat bar is the deal killer. This might be a great option if it's actually comfortable for 4-hour rides. One of these, a rigid fork, gravel tubless tires and call it a day???
Soma did this 5 yrs ago. About time
i went cross country with my flatbar MTB my hands were sore//cramped for a couple of days! switched to butterfly bars they felt better perhaps could try these out ^^
Definitely innovative; however, I favor a much cleaner cockpit and it appears a cradle and bikepacking bag setup would interfere with the cables too much. Look forward to your full testing! Thanks! BTW, the stache looks good!
Going with a narrow but larger circumference bag for a harness system like the Pronghorn would be a great option and wont interfere with the cables. Similar to drop bars, going with a wide bag will just get in the way of your controls.
I would love to try this out and compare it to the Moloko bar.
This seems highly interesting. Could be exactly what I need.
Thanks for this video!
Would like to ask how big your front bikepacking bag is, the second one you show up in the video...
Thnaks
I just starting to get back to MT/Gravel...
What happened to Bar Ends???
I have been using flat bars on my surly troll for a long time and a jones loopbar was perfect especially with the 2.5 rise… but lately i got hold of a surly ghost grappler here in tge philippines.
Since the grappler was designed for dropbars… dovyou think a corner bar would be compatibke? I can’t spend money on new drivetrain STI setup . Will the corner bar still wotk on the grappler? Nice video by the way. Very informative and concise
That bar should be fantastic on the Surly LHT
Surly did some great marketing to launch this product, but they are impossible to find. I have a bike ready, just need the bar.
I am told that although they are constructed of CroMoly, they seem to be made of Unobtanium. I am 3rd on the list at the local bike shop.
LOL, good one Jason, hope you can get one when they are in the wild.
Make them not so wide and you have a speed comfort bar, like a reverse bull bar.
My 93 GT timberline came stock with bars like that , but turned completely upside down
I need a more upright position for bike packing
Very cool. May add to my Salsa El Mariachi.
Wow, cool design from 100 years ago
How's the reach compared to a flat bar? Do you find yourself needing to compensate with a shorter stem?
Great question, I had a 60mm stem on this bike, if I went to a 50mm, I think that would secure a more upright position, and a better overall fit. The shorter the stem, the more twitchy, so thats something to keep in mind.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom nice, thanks for the quick reply. All I have to do now is wait until it officially gets released.
Would you recomend me this for build a gravel bike? i don't have any componet rigth now so the only advantage i can see is that it allowss me to use hydraulic brakes or even cheap tourney mtb equipment if i'm short of money.
Any thoughts on adding this to a Cutthroat? I prefer the feel of flat bars and these seem to move towards that dynamic without fully losing drops. Thanks
hi, just wondering what sized corner bar you used in the video and what is recommended for what purpose. thanks
I was thinking maybe if I got this, I would have extended the nubs part of the bar with regular flat bar extenders as this is my favourite position to ride. Would this work?
what do you think when you use it, is it more like using drop bar in hood position or like using drop bar in drop position ?
I had contemplated getting this bar to replace a flared drop I had on my “gravel” bike but went to the surly Molko bar instead. There were a couple of reasons; more hand positions and a slightly less wider bar. Where I ride many of the bike trails, paths are gated and I can barely get through these gates even with Molko bar.
Are there bike gates on bike paths where you live that requires bike yoga to get through?
Maybe Surly could introduce a bar that has an actual drop bar for this? The way it looks is that it's not really a drop bar, it's an angled flat bar. In the sense that the bars are connected at an angle but the bars are still straight.
Would a curve in the drops help with this? But I could imagine it having issues with the placement of the brakes and gear levers.
Where, oh where, does one get those lovely bar end plugs? Plugs are EXTREMELY important for prevent core sampling of various parts of one’s body. Screw in plugs are much more reliable that bash-in ones.
The aero position on Moloko bars is excellent, even on gravel road downhills (Wisconsin basin). The nobs, or bar ends, do a great job of preventing forward pitching when one goes over a sudden rock or pothole, unlike a mere placement of hands or elbows without hooking anything on the top bar (even on pavement an excellent national team roadie found this out the hard way).
Those bar ends come with the Lizard Skin bar tape, they are really nice because they actually screw in. Many brands sell those screw in bar plugs separately, I'm sure your local bike shop has some.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom thanks. I’ll check Lizard locally. But Quality, separate, bar end plugs are very hard to find locally (CN), and even online (at least I haven’t found them). Quality = metal, screw, bit wider flange width to hold tape or very wide flange width to hold pogies in place. And for Moloko etc. you need 4, not 2.
Did you find you wanted to change the stem length compared to what you would use with your flat bar setup?
Great review
Going back to single track real quick. Is it something you would ride on the reg on single track? I live in PA, where you can traverse over a lot on dirt roads and single tracks to make for longer rides, but I’m a gravel curious mountain biker through and through.
My trails aren’t anywhere like out west. They are super chunky, primitive, with quick ascends/descends. Would this be limiting to my xc love?
I have this one already, nice
Way to go buddy!