I'm kinda disappointed that he didn't really get into the differences between a psychiatrist and psychologist. Basically, a psychiatrist is a doctor, and as such, they are trained to solve medical problems by way of medicines and medical treatment. They have a vast knowledge of medications and their desired and or undesired effects and are trained to use their prescription pads to solve mental issues from a medical point of view. Psychologists are very different in that they are NOT medical doctors. They are trained to apply a therapeutic approach to improve mental health, i.e. conversational therapy, etc. They have a vast range of conversational techniques and exercises at their disposal to help bring about an improvement in behavioral or mental health. Which approach a patient requires is a very tricky concept. I work in the mental health sector and have been informed by many of our clients in psychiatric care that haven't noticed much improvement in their mental health, despite the medication given them by their psychiatrist. Many times they are able to achieve a vast improvement after switching to a psychologist. The reverse, however, is just as true. Many of our clients that have seen a therapist for years also report sudden improvements after switching to medical treatment by a psychiatrist. As a general rule however, most of our clients report that the first reaction of their psychiatrists is to issue a prescription.
@@idkwhattowritehere5104 Depend on your problems. Maybe clinical psychologist is better. If the therapy from them won’t work out, then you might want to try to go to a psychiatrist to get medications. Personally I don’t like getting medications for mental health issues. The meds just make you calm or sleepy, but they won’t solve anything 😬
@@lilyblack1979 "Personally I don’t like getting medications for mental health issues." - Well it all depends on the mental health issue, doesn't it? There's an entire range of mental health issues that derive great benefit from prescribed medication, e.g. schizophrenia, certain forms of depression, etc. Many of our clients at work have reported vast improvements in their quality of life since they started taking medication and wouldn't be able to imagine their lives without it. One client with a severe form of depression that led to trembling hands, violent outbursts, sleeplessness, digestive problems, inability to get out of bed in the mornings, etc., was able to resume normal daily activities after a psychiatrist prescribed medication. Before then, he had been seeing a clinical psychologist for several years without any noticeable improvement. Now he's once again employed and the relationship with his wife and kids has vastly improved due to his lack of violent outbursts and unpredictable mood swings. And that's all thanks to medication.
Sir I'm currently in 9 standard and I don't know which field to choose.i am good at giving advices,comforting,logical thinking, understanding and knowledge of science and mind.i also know 3 languages right now.so,what you think would be a better field for me?
High five ! Suggest a list of stressful experiences? Like, most stressful to, least stressful. Learning to drive, moving house. Death. Might be interesting.
To become a Psychologist in the United States, you need: - A Bachelor's degree = 4 years - A Master's degree = 2 years - A Doctorate in Psychology or Clinical Psychology = 3 years (or more) - A clinical residency of between 1750 and 3500 hours depending on the state = 1-2 years - Then you must pass the EPP exam So before you can reach the point of working independently as a Licensed Psychologist who has earned the protected title of "Psychologist", it will take about 11-12 years. And I would be remiss not to point out how difficult it has become in most states to even secure a clinical residency position to accumulate the hours you need to satisfy state licensure requirements. It's gotten so bad that it's caused a shortage and has made states like New York hand Psychologist level diagnosis and treatment responsibilities down to Licensed Mental Health Counselors.
@@TheChallenger1000 yup im in the states too. You need to have either masters, doctors, or license to practice. And for psyd you can get right into it after undergrad. Not tryna pick on u or anything, i got to know about it recently
@@user-oy6ev5mj6h That's true for BS to PsyD programs but those are exceptions as there are only a few of them in existence in the U.S. And even in those, they often have a Master's degree program built-in. Besides those few exceptions, APA accredited programs normally make a Master's a requirement.
Seriously? Psychiatry is nothing but a bunch of pill pushers and con-artists. Watch this documentary to learn more about the truth of this corrupt profession. th-cam.com/video/zg0TFkFDtyA/w-d-xo.html
I hate to say it but that seems to be the common theme among US psychologists. They make themselves the experts when half the time they don’t know what they’re talking about- at least from my personal experience. But go figure- a lot of what we talk about and are trained in is culturally biased 🤷🏾♀️
@@keishafromscratch nobody knows everything and I really don't understand why you would glean that comment from the video. If you find one that is inept go to the next but in mental health please don';t discourage someone from treatment because of personal experiences. It is too important. I hope you found what you need if not I would be happy to help.
@@lukechristian8371 Oh cool. I went through the school psych PhD route. And then completed post doc hours (and predoc hours) under the supervision of a licensed psychologist before taking the EPPP exam to become licensed.
I went to a Psychiatrist, she had a big group of followers. Yes, I walked a long way there. I wondered about the economy. Qualifications. Jobs. I struggled to gain my Driving licence. Read, a book. And, looked at Stress. Like. A list, of Stressful experiences!
Yup that is what psychiatrist are specialized in so if that doesn’t fit you try seeing a psychologist they would probably do more of what you are talking about
I find it incredibly frustrating to get a psychologist in my country is so difficult. I've seen so many psychiatrists but what I need is less medication support and more therapy and talking things out. I don't know if it's a sign of a bad psychiatrist or if the profession itself relies too much on medication.
i am wondering too. i went to a psychiatrist for the first time the session only lasted for more or less 15 minutes and the doctor didn't even tell me clearly what my diagnosis is but she prescribed me medicines. is that supposed to happen or?
Psychiatrists are medical doctors, so their main approach is to offer medical explanations and medical solutions, which often aren’t necessarily the best approach. You need to see either a clinical psychologist or a therapist specific for your difficulty
Ok - folks; the most important thing to understand - is how to navigate channels. > You need a referral to get to a psychiatrist - if you are seeking medical solutions.ie prescription drugs. Only a psychiatrist can write out the prescriptions & monitor you for possible side effects, etc. Make sure you’re doing ok on the meds. The psychiatrist is not a counselor for you, to discuss your issues. > A psychologist - social worker - or counselor : is where you can actually talk through your behavioral/ mental/ emotional / or relationship problems. They are the ones who are going to be w. you in the trenches. . > It’s important to find the counselor that Is right for you. How does that work ? You will know it by how you feel when you’re in session with them. You should feel safe, comfortable, cared for & heard. You should feel validated & supported. That’s for starters. It’s possible to get excellent therapy w/o the use of meds. Meds are for people who have true difficulty functioning - but even then it’s a choice, not a guaranteed solution. > Best wishes to all ! PS - as a reminder. None of these venues will magically solve your problems, Those problems will still be there. Pills or no pills, counseling or no counseling. Just so you know. ...
The reason that people go to their primary care doctor is because insurance doesn't always pay for for some people to just look for a psychiatrist and make an appt. without a referral. Also finding a competent Dr. in either field is extremely difficult!
What Dr. Sportelli fails to mention is that despite the 12 years of training that psychiatrists have, compared with 11 for clinical psychologists and 6 for clinical social workers, there is not one shred of peer reviewed data that patients are better served by any of these professionals in psychotherapy. This is because psychotherapy, and working with people in general, is far more of an art than a science. Some people have what it takes to develop the art. Some don't. And the bulk of all university training is focused on academic knowledge. Not a good way to learn how to work with people especially in clinical settings.
In my many years of seeking professional help for my own mental health issues I have only found one...ONE...professional who gets it. Even the "professionals", who think they get it, don't.
Thank you!! I’m 49 and finally figured out what’s been wrong with me my entire life. I went and got a psych eval to get diagnosed and she was wrong way wrong. I know she’s the pro but I also know myself better than her or the stupid eval. Nothing more annoying than a doctor trying to inflict the ego him of “trauma” on some of your past when it’s not as traumatic to you as it seems to be to them. The only thing traumatic about my so called “trauma” is that it’s getting in the way of a proper and correct diagnosis. If she couldn’t diagnose me with adhd because I whale anxiety and depression Amd they have “the same symptoms” she should have told me that before I paid $1800 for the evaluation when I informed her I was already diagnosed with anxiety and depression. Sorry but some 32 year old kid doesn’t know more about me than I do just because she went to college. Js
@@Oceans780 I thought I had to have a psych eval to be diagnosed and it states they do adhd tests so I thought that meant the knew all about it. She told me she wouldn’t be a good scientist if she diagnosed me with adhd even though I have all the symptoms. When she asked me about having traumas in my life she literally lit up when I answered and told me she specializes in trauma. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ I knew then it wasn’t going to go the right way. I wasn’t there about traumas. I’ve been to therapy most my life. I needed validation from a professional about something I already knew and had just found out. Some of these things happened 40 years ago...I’m over that shit. Since it appeared they did specialize in adhd and for it to be so wrong I really don’t know what to do. I’m second guessing myself even though I’m so positive I’m right. It’s weird. I’m defeated.
@@SupernovaX72 same here. My childhood traumas were due to having parents with ADHD! Yes, I have depression, but that doesn't mean I couldn't also have inherited ADHD from my parents - nobody in my family has ever been diagnosed with ADHD before, because we all considered each other normal. You can't get a diagnosis unless other people find you annoying.
@@obgfoster it’s so frustrating and yes I’m convinced my mother and son have it too but my mother would never ever ever believe it or admit it. I think my dad might have been bipolar or ptsd from viet nam and his rough childhood. When I finally looked into adhd I was shocked because it wasn’t what I had thought it was. It made everything in my life make sense for the first time and In only a matter of seconds. I finally have an explanation. For example this evaluating doctor thinks because I grew up in Colorado and there were so many mass shootings there and I was living there when the columbine thing happened that that is a trauma for me. Ummmmm no no it’s not. It most definitely deeply affected me but is not a trauma and definitely has nothing to do with my messed up adhd like brain 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I get that. In all fairness that’s how it will be for many people, and a lot of times it has nothing to do with how a clinician is trained. It has more to do with the ability of the clinician to connect with you and Vice versa. If there’s no connection there the sessions will not work. Plus, in my opinion, many clinicians stick to providing therapy they’re comfortable with whether it works for you or not. They get on my nerves lol
As a psychologist in Colombia, I´d say if you require medication to manage your mental health, you go to a psychiatrist. BUT, in most cases, this treatment should be accompanied by treatment with a psychologist. Psychiatrists don´t do psychological therapy, just medicinal "therapy". I would say it´s best to start with a psychologist, then that profesional can remit you to a psychiatrist if needed. If a person isn´t stable enough, a psychologist can´t start therapy bc the person just wouldn´t be able to respond, so medication is needed to level the person out first so that they can be present in the therapy.
This is true. You would work your way up to the help needed. Or you may be able to stop once you have found the right fit that Is needed before you go further. Social Workers usually have a Masters's only. But they can do alot with it for children, adults or working with families to try to make their lives a little better.
Medication can solve your anxiety or depression temporarily period of time while congative behaviour therapy can solve the root of the problem for long period of time and psychologist can teach you how to act during difficult situation
@foxycat90210 Thank you for all you do in the community. So much appreciated! I would say that there are many of us psychiatrists who employ psychotherapy actually. Understanding diagnosis is crucial, but also understanding the vast array of treatments available is equally important. While medications play a role, there's clear evidence that therapy has huge benefits for many disorders, and even those without a disorder. For those reasons, psychiatrists understand that therapy can be quite helpful, and because of that, many of us psychiatrist learn, understand and know how to employ psychotherapy. Regardless, thank you for all that you do, I very much appreciate your contributions to the community!
It's often in fact vice versa but can depend on the severity of the disorder. Licensed psychologists are as (if not more) capable and educated to diagnose mental health disorders as a psychiatrist, whose first course of action is almost invariably to apply medicinal therapy. That's what they're trained to do--treating disorders with medication over therapy. After obtaining a diagnosis from a psychologist, it'll be established whether medication is necessary, in which case they refer the patient to a psychiatrist. They work hand-in-hand so one should never be dismissed over the other.
Actually in most US states any independently licensed mental health professional can diagnose a mental illness. Psychologists, counselors, and social workers can legally diagnose a mental health problem. But some people are not comfortable with that
@@e.b.4379 Thank your input on this. Psychiatrists aren't trained to use one treatment over another. We are trained to diagnose first and foremost. Understanding a diagnosis is crucial. And to understand a diagnosis you need to be familiar with a broad range of disorders and formulate an appropriate differential. This often times can include medical disorders that can contribute to mental health disorders, such as thyroid dysfunction for example. Psychiatrists then have to know when to use a certain treatment and when not to employ one. We look at risk-benefit ratio, burden of proof of the disorder in question, and a good psychiatrist will collaborate with the patient on a treatment of their choice. Many psychiatrists, myself included, are trained in both psychotherapy and medication management. And as a result, because we intimately know both types of treatments, we have a better understanding of knowing when to use one over the other. While there are, unfortunately, poor psychiatrists out there like any other field, I wanted to instill some hope that there are actually psychiatrists who do much more than just prescribe. Thanks for your input though!
I think psychologists and psychiatrists should be categorized into different specialties, like adhd psychiatrist for children (adhd pediologist), psychiatrist for bipolar disorders, and given a specific title, like bipolarologisr, lol,, just like you would see a foot doctor for plantar ficiatis and foot pain and and they are categorized as podiatrists. Patients should be given a psychological test in order to see the correct psychiatrist/psychologist to treat their mental illness.
They do. Clinical psychologists are the only ones who can assess and diagnose people with autism. Furthermore if there is more of a chemical imbalance neural wise then the psychologist more than likely would refer him to a psychiatrist. They don’t need “adhd psychiatrist” and so forth. You go to school for all these years and do internship or residency to learn about these disorders. There are such things as a child psychologist and psychiatrist which is in scope of what you are saying.
3) Eventhough I try wake up early to prepare on my project, also meditate my internal ability would be weak, use less brain (might be due to procrastination) so I spend lots and lots of time on the subject, with very low output, even during meditation my internal desire would be low, again the same thing am not working to my ability, if I force to focus then very soon I loose it puts me to lazyness zone, Eventhough I desire to achieve, I try hard to raise my will power but because of my said weakness I failing to achieve, for someone to achieve should work very hard using full brain ability, should burn blood, work so that that failure shoukd run away but my weakness of non using brain, lazyness will not give success to me
A lot of insurance companies require you to go to your primary care physician and get a referral before they will cover any of the very few behavioral health treatments or appointments they actually allow. That is very important, because it is very expensive. Kind of like going to your dentist because you have a toothache. You have to pay the dentist's exam fees, x-ray fees, and who knows what else they want add on to the bill. The dentist tells you you have an abscess and need a root canal. Insurance only covers the exam fee once every 6 months for cleaning purposes. So now you have to wait 6 months or pay another exam fee, x-ray fees and who knows whatever else they want attach on to the bill for the endodontist to examine the tooth again. Then once you pay the endodontist to do your root canal, you have to go back to the dentist and pay exam fees, x-ray fees, and whatever else they want attached on to the bill to get the crown put on and hope that fixs the problem for a few years with three times the dental hygiene practices to keep the infection at Bay.
@@obgfoster it's always been an option if you want to pay for it yourself. But if you want help covering the cost it's a lot more work For What Little you will get out of it. The only reason I was able to afford marriage counseling and my own temporary counseling was because of insurance through the marketplace and only for that one year that I qualified for that good insurance plan. Don't get me wrong please, but I am all for advocating for myself. I want to be in charge of my treatments, not a "doctor" that won't listen to me anyway. So I quit paying them for nothing / uselessness / wasting my time and started getting all the same information online that I choose how to implement for my own self improvement.
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I will elaborate on the work of a psychologist since it was not addressed during the video. To become a clinical psychologist one must complete a bachelor's degree in mental health (4 years), a master's degree in mental health (3 years) or go directly to a doctorate degree in psychology which can be a PsyD or PhD (4 - 6 years) where we must also do a doctoral dissertation/research (1 - 2 years) and a year of internship in addition to clinical rotations in hospitals and outpatient clinics; and if we want to specialize we must do an additional year or two depending on the specialty (neuropsychology, forensic psychology, trauma). In total, a psychologist studies between 10 to 13 years of mental health compared to a psychiatrist who studies 4 years of mental health during their residency. Both psychologists and psychiatrists can diagnose and treat mental health illnesses. The psychiatrist bases their treatment on medication unless he/she/they is trained in some model of psychotherapy; on the other hand, the treatment offered by clinical psychologists is in psychotherapy unless he/she/they specializes in prescribing medication (in some states such as New Mexico). The literature shows that the best treatment is a combination of psychotherapy and medication for most mental illnesses, so the collaborative work between a psychiatrist and a psychologist is essential in the recovery process for the patient. In addition, psychologists are trained to assess mental illness from a social, biological, environmental, behavioral and emotional aspect. In turn, they also offer evaluations through standardized tests to screen for mental illness (emotional, personality, neurodevelopmental), intelligence level, neurological disorders, among others. This is only a small part of the work that a clinical psychologist does. As a Doctor in Clinical Psychology, it seems to me that Dr. Sportelli has a reductionist view of what a psychologist is. (Spanish translation) Voy a abundar en el trabajo de un psicólogo ya que no se tocó durante el video. Para ser psicólogo clínico uno debe completar un bachillerato relacionado salud mental (4 años), un grado de maestría en salud mental (3 años) o ir directo a hacer un doctorado en psicología el cual puede ser PsyD o PhD (4 - 6 años) donde también debemos hacer una investigación/disertación doctoral (1 - 2 años) y un año de internado en adición a las rotaciones clínicas en hospitales y clínicas ambulatorias; y si desea especializarse deben hacer entre uno a dos años dependiendo la especialidad (neuropsicología, psicología forense, trauma). En total, un psicólogo estudia entre 10 a 13 años sobre salud mental en comparación a un psiquiatra que estudia 4 años de salud mental al hacer su residencia. Ambos psicólogos y psiquiatras pueden diagnosticar y tratar enfermedades de salud mental. El psiquiatra basa su tratamiento en medicamentos a menos que se entrene en algún modelo de psicoterapia; por otra parte, el tratamiento que ofrecen los psicólogo clínicos es en psicoterapia a no ser que se especialice para recetar medicamentos (en algunos estados como Nuevo Mexico). La literatura indica que el mejor tratamiento es la combinacion de psicoterapia y medicamento para la mayoría de las enfermedades mentales, por lo cual el trabajo colaborativo entre un psiquiatra y un psicologo es esencial en el proceso de recuperación para el paciente. En adición, los psicólogos estamos entrenados para evaluar la enfermedad mental desde el aspecto social, biológico, ambiental, conductual y emocional. A su vez, también ofrecemos evaluaciones mediante pruebas estandarizados para auscultar enfermedades mentales (emocional, personalidad, neurodesarrollo), nivel de inteligencia, desordenes neurológicos, entre otros. Esto es solo un poco del trabajo que realiza un psicólogo clínico. Como Doctor en Psicología Clinica, me parece que el Dr. Sportelli tiene unat visión reduccionista de lo que es un psicólogo.
Calling it “behavioural health” is a bit off to say the least. It comes from the cognitive idea of changing the behaviour will change the pattern but it’s not questioning the reasons for an individual to be having those behavioural issues. It’s basically “do as I say and you’ll be fine”.
A psychiatrist is a medical specialist who treats mental illness that is categorised as a medical disorder and will usually require medication that a psychiatrist can prescribe. Psychologists, on the other hand, are experts in human behaviour and related to that how the mind and cognition regulates behaviour and feelings. Treatment is based on this, and psychologists cannot prescribe medication. Therefore Psychologists will treat problems like phobias, bad decision making, self esteem, addictions, and psychiatrists treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression, and mental illness involving psychosis which will usually require medication for the patient to be able to function.
@@makingpeoplebetter8654 A psychologist might provide supplementary treatment for some axis 1 mental illness, such as when the treating psychiatrist believes that a patient will benefit from cognitive therapy or social skills training, but the the psychiatrist would be the primary practitioner for axis 1 illnesses because of the need to monitor and prescribe medication and potentially hospitalisation, and that is outside the scope of a psychologist.
@@cathyh1680 No, it is not and in most countries, they are on the same level in the care hierarchy. Psychiatrist for meds (for axis 1), Psychologist for the actually difficult treatment that is extensive psychotherapy. I am so tired of this opinion that axis 1 would be "out of the scope of a Psychologist". We are well trained to handle these issues and I will work together with any physician if meds are needed (often times I will even suggest the meds). A psychologist should fight for the privilege after additional training to be enabled to prescribe meds (some states in the Us allow that already).
Many doctors today prefer the patient visit a psychologist instead of taking medication, sometimes it can help but talking to a psychologist about the obvious can be a pain in the backside, anxiety should be treated with medication and some visits to a psychologist, what many do wrong is, banish the medication completely and use the new age response of going to psychologist as the preferred way of treatment, it works both ways and the psychologists should acknowledge this and stop having a negative attitude towards pharmacological treatment.
As a psychologist I do support the use of medication , but only when it’s necessary because medication can cause dependency and unwanted side effects and really medication is trial and error it may work it might not . What I do prefer is supplements things like Gabba, melatonin , mentat , etc
WoW! Fascinating! Thank you both for being a blessing to me. Totally educational! Please remain awesomely blessed and empowered. Best wishes to you, your teams, followers, service users, supporters and families for the year 2022 and always. :-)
I love listening to Dr D, Ps what if one doesn't really like the therapist and psycologiest or psychiatrist.but still keep seeing them anyway? Usually because they're the only providers in the area, or because they've already started with than..
I used to be wary of psychiatrists just because I understand it is primarily prescription based. And I thought I could do it without the meds. But after 16 years of hell, I finally made the jump. First time in my life I felt... Normal. Ofc it's not going to be the answer to everyone but for my specific case, it's what I needed. And those drugs have literally saved my life. The disadvantages are heavily outweighed by the advantages. I reached a critical point in my life where I either take the pills, endure the side effects or I was going to kill myself. Already planned it out and bought all the things I needed. It was that severe.
Whats the difference between a psychologist and a therapist then if you use this definition? That doesn't make sense to me. I am currently a psychology student and there are specific courses for each - Psychologist BSc and Therapeutic Psychology BA - my understanding the is the psychologist is based upon a more scientific structure hence the B(achelor) of Sc(ience) at the end and Therapeutic psychology is a B(achelor) of A(rts) based area. Also I was told that a psychologist works with people with specific mental disorders such as borderline personality disorder and schizophrenia where a therapist deals with more generalised issues such as depression, eating disorders and grief. Both share use of therapy but not both are "therapists" is how I best understand it.
What about the generation of psychiatrists that subscribe to a wholey biological model and do nothing but pills? Or the psychologists who are wedded to a single therapeutic modality because they chose psychology because of their own issues? I'm a primary care doc and fully trained psychotherapist who's appalled at the quality of care from so many mental health professionals. Fundamentally, it's an expensive process of 'auditioning' providers because the therapeutic alliance is everything. Hopefully a primary care doc can help you sort out the dross. Nevertheless, most folks who need it really can't afford this kind of treatment
Exactly. I think if they’re going to talk about each area of mental health they need to bring an expert of each area including a primary care doctor and psychotherapist.
as for myself i use to be a LVN with a HHA ans an HUC But due to my health I never kept my certs up ,Went down ambulating a resident ended my Career blew my back out to a point it couldn't be fixed.can't ethicallyy fix a spin with more than 3vertabras effected in your lumbar spine without causeing issues and even more pain... But hey i'm alive and it could be worse.
I am a Doctor of Clinical Psychology. I am very clear about stating that and not just saying the word “Psychologist”, so that people don’t confuse the title of therapist with the the title of “Psychologist”. A Psychologist is a person who acquired a Bachelors, Masters and Doctorate in Psychology =10 years. Prior to obtaining Doctorate, they must complete Pre Doctoral hours, along with a Doctoral researched based dissertation. After completing Doctorate degree, they are then required to complete 1-2 year post Doc hour. Psychologists are trained experts in understanding the mind and behaviors, diagnosing, assessing, treat mental health issues, behavioral issues, hardships and administer testing and assessments. Psychologists can also be therapists or Psychoanalysts. A Psychiatrist is a medical doctor, who went to medical school and didn’t learn anything about the mind, mental health nor behavior. They strictly learn about the anatomy, everything below the mind. Psychology was birthed from Psychiatry in a way, which is the reason the names are similar. Psychiatrist, Psychologist and or Psychoanalyst. Psychoanalyst require an additional training. The first psychiatrist were medical doctors, who decided to flirt with the brain and behavior. From that birthed Psychoanalysis and then Psychology. The first psychological experiment was conducted in Egypt, making Ancient Egypt the birth place. Today’s Psychiatrist for whatever reason has decided they don’t want to work in medicine and go for a specialty in mental health to justify the decision. They complete residency in their specialty, which means training in mental health. They do no focus on mental health in the same way a Psychologist does. They pretty must just prescribe medication for psychosis, depression, anxiety and attention deficit. They are not concerned with the mind, layers and personality organization of the person. They dont care about your childhood, divorce, insecurities, hardships or splitting. They only focus on what they can prescribe for whatever issues and justify it is a means to resolving mental health issues. It is not. Some Psychiatrist become Psychoanalyst, which is a true form of treatment of psychological issues and or hardships. A therapist focused on talk therapy. They receive a bachelors and masters degree. They can diagnose but mostly focus on talking with a person to help them resolve personal issues. A counselor counsels and coaches a person experiencing hardships in life and in need of counsel. He should’ve had me on show. Thanks for the video of informing others.
There is a bias here without having a Psychologist speak as well, and he doesn't cover the benefit to seeing a Psychologist vs. Psychiatrist. (Yes, I'm a licensed Psychologist.). A Psychologist has way more in-depth psychotherapy training (in a doctoral program, which took me 8 years to complete after a 2 year Master's program) -- this includes family/couples therapy, child psychology, assessment & evaluation (testing, which Psychiatrists are not trained specifically to do). Yes, a Psychiatrist has a medical background which certainly helps with medication evaluation and so on, but they have very limited "training" in knowing how to do in-depth psychotherapy -- what you heard him say here is that there training in therapy is limited to a one-two year residency/specialty, which primarily includes seeing patients under supervision, not a lot of in-classroom training. This is a huge difference.
The best psychiatrists do not just prescribe medications. The field of psychiatry continues to be divided into fragmented areas of “specialization.” It may be difficult to clarify who does what. You may ask: What’s a MD, DO, LMFT, LCSW, PMHNP, PhD, PsyD, etc.? Who does therapy? Who doesn’t do therapy? What do all these terms mean? Why should I care? The fact is that all psychiatrists are physicians (MD and DO). Many psychiatrists learn, understand and know how to employ appropriate therapeutic techniques and specific psychotherapy modes. Because psychiatrists (MD or DO) understand how to employ the broadest range of treatments of all the different types of “therapists” available, there is a clear advantage to having your therapist be a psychiatrist. While not all psychiatrists practice therapy, if you find one that does, it would benefit you to consider continual engagement with that psychiatrist. The best psychiatrist doesn’t just prescribe. They understand diagnosis, the wide range of treatments (therapy and medications) and know when to recommend one, the other or both.
****** difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist is that the psychologist cannot prescribe medicine a psychiatrist MD can. Trust me, talk therapy helps a lot and has helped me more than any psychiatrist ever has only thing with a psychiatrist I’ve done for me that I’ve worked with have over prescribe me psycho tropic drugs that make you feel like a placid cow camera you become more suicidal by taking the drugs when you don’t take up. The best thing for depression, is some kind ofAdrenaline it’s excitement jumping off a cliff under the water parachuting base camping driving your fast car LOL you get the picture don’t psychiatrist keep your psychologist he’ll be your buddy and friend forever
Shut up. You're giving people dangerous advice. This may have helped for you but a lot of people who have depression need antidepressants, not to "jump off a cliff". You're ignorant, stop telling people not to go to a psychiatrist just because you don't need one.
Yes I can go to someone of my own choice, but there's no way I could afford it long term. That's the difference, if I went by my doctor I would perhaps be able to be on a plan. But the last time I tried this, it was about $200 a visit and although she was lovely, she didn't help me at all.
my college enrollment is approaching and i’m still debating on whether i’d go into psychology or other degrees cause it takes many years to finally become a psychologist help
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Kind of insulting to read this as a board certified primary care physician. We treat many patients with depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, etc. There are many non-physicians (nurse practitioners and physician assistants) with a fraction of the training of a family physician or internist masquerading as psychiatrist and treating vulnerable patients. Please expose this part of the healthcare system that is taking advantage of our patients!!
As an A&E doctor, I'd categorically say that conventional medicine is not the end-all-be-all to all ailments. Mental health conditions and needs of each individual are different and a one-size-fits-all approach is a mistake on all fronts. I'm grateful for those non-medically educated and trained professionals because they look beyond what a regular GP would neglect, usually inadvertently but nevertheless... I also believe that many times alternative/complementary/holistic approaches are necessary to treat a patient alongside allopathic medical practices.
"Insulting" stop being the hero. It is nothing insulting about the information given. You can not have it both ways. PCPs do NOT have all the answers and extensive knowledge to treat complex mental health disorders. Psychiatric NP's and PAs are definitely not "masquerading as psychiatrists" and being in the healthcare profession how dare you. They actually fill a need for lack of PCPs time the doctor has to spend on mental health when he has other patients. Psychiatrists are a rare breed. They are champions to the healthcare field. Champions!!!! I have worked side by side doctors who have absolutely no clue. No you and doctors like you need to be exposed.
I am in the process of getting my PMHNP and I have nothing against psychiatrists and I would pick a psychiatrist any day over a psychologist or NP depending on the need for medication. However, we do have excellent training in bedside manner and not all psychiatrists have that. We are not doctors, and by no means are we trying to steal business.
@@tammyrhines since when did nurse practitioners have extensive training?? They have less training then a petsmart groomer and less clinical experience with online diploma mills churning out mid levels left and right!
So apparently I should be fixed from seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist for many years. People always have what you need to know. They not walked in my shoes
It means you are predisposed to depression because of your genetic makeup. It could be something like an arrangement of genes that is sensitive to inflammation which could cause depression, or you may have certain neural processes that are wired in a way that impacts feel good hormones such as dopamine or serotonin. The best way to go about this is find what genes have the problem and get medication and cognitive behavioral therapy.
Well, did the psychiatrist sequence your genome and locate the genes responsible for your depression? Can they even identify what those genes would be? I think they didn't, and they can't. I'm not a doctor, but I am a scientist. What that psychiatrist told you is a weak claim in scientific terms. On the other hand, the claim that bad things make you sad is a strong claim in scientific terms. It's up to you to look into it. It is true the psychiatrist is motivated by money, but so are most people.
What zatakification said. I dont see how they could locate the genes they are talking about, and also, what was the treatment they recommended you to do? They can prescribe some drugs that will be useful, but since we are talking about depression you should go see a psychologist and not only a psychiatrist.
@@zatakification sorry for the late response, I only just saw this after the most recent notification. No, they didn't. I saw the psychiatrist in a low income wellness center. This was my first time seeing a psychiatrist, having previously seen therapists and doctors in a screening context. He spoke to me for maybe twenty minutes before saying that and suggesting medication. Of all the screenings I've had, one person out of all of them didn't immediately jump to depression, offering a suggestion that honestly made more sense when I looked into it..
Because of non usage of brain its got rusted which I feel bad, at times I feel if I would have used my brain ability my outcome would be at its best, I feel unfortunate about myself
i wonder if any of these doctors implores a neurologist before prescribing drugs in general?? seems psychotic disorders are assumed by symptoms rather than checking for neural spiking with scientific measures .psychiatry is all just guess work by assumption
It's interesting that the Doc calls it "behavioural health" all the time, as if what happens in the minds does not matter or is not in any way related to behaviours.
That’s why I stopped paying attention to most psychologists when they talk about other areas of mental health. They really do not know what they’re talking about
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Well, I'm sunk already. Local phyc is junk. Proven. One actual psyciatrist, swamped. (Small town). I am now going to figure out what I need, in mental health care ? In the beginning of my search for help, psyciatrist/ologist told me that a big part of my mental trauma was from how badly I was treated by the medical, as an injured worker. Then, I find that I had severe PTSD....Was a cop. But childhood trauma, ...Did not know. WHAT A MESS. I see why "self medication" is so popular. This "seek help" will drive a person kookoo.
@@makingpeoplebetter8654 Psyciatrists are always good in talking to, and describe what they see in me well...Two of them, so far. But when I am sent to psycologists, thats when it gets strange. I have even quarreled, and reported two, in the same clinic. And, of course, I have gotten nothing but more trauma remembering. I have learned more from talking to my brother,who lives in a big city, and suffered at the hands of my dad,like me...He sees "big folks", I suppose.
Not entirely accurate. Psychologists do about 4 years of doctoral training (often 5 years) + at least 1 year of postdoctoral residency/fellowship, and are trained in neuropsychology, assessments, and therapies. There are many specialties within psychology as well, and board certifications which take further years of practice and study. In my experience - and I have worked extensively with psychiatrists in multiple settings - psychiatrists prescribe meds, but have very little knowledge of behavioral health or therapy. It is also noteworthy that in 5 states, Public Health Service, and the DoD , psychologists can earn prescribing psychotropic medications with additional training.
Very misleading information-psychologists being able to prescribe is ONLY permitted under physician (psychiatrist) supervision in the extremely limited scenarios where it is permitted, and when it is, it is due to physicians not wanting to practice much in that state, but furthermore, this does not discredit the reality that a psychologist does not spend a single day in medical school, and does not spend a second studying medicine. Therefore the most important distinction to be made is that a psychologist is not a physician, not a medical doctor, and not fundamentally an expert in human pathology, physiology, or pharmacology in the way that a psychiatrist (physician) is. A psychologist is an expert in their DISTINCT field, which is philosophical, not medical. Therefore the length of time that a psychologist spends studying, whether 5 years or 10, does not indicate that their training is the same as that of a psychiatrist who studies for 10 years because the nature of their training and education is ENITRELY DISTINCT. If I spend ten years studying carpentry, I'm not qualified to be a cardiologist just because we have both studied for 10 years, because we haven't been studying the same thing. Psychiatrists have little knowledge of behavioral health or therapy? Psychologists have no knowledge of human processes or bodily functions because they are not medical doctors. Your comment aims to present psychiatrists as psychologists with special prescribing abilities, but this uneducated oversight completely dismisses the entirely separate education and training associated with the two different professions. Nowadays many psychiatrists refer to themselves explicitly as physician psychiatrists because of this misconception.
Can you help me sir, or anyone in the comments?. Yesterday at night i was in a room, i had to wait there until the smell of spray for mosquitoes disappeared so i can get out, because of a temporary fear from not long ago i felt like locked in in that room because i knew i won't be able to get out (I'm not claustrophobic) when i want to, while i was waiting there i was looking at my phone too which made me feel even more locked and hard to breathe, now when i left the room i didn't feel like I did, and even now i have the same feeling, I'm trying to convince my mind that I'm out not and that it's all good but it's not working much, i feel better for a bit and the feeling comes again, what should i do?.
if you are seeing a "psychologist" what is the end goal? Continuous therapy sounds like a never ending cycle and while its helpful to discuss and evaluate your status, I don't see what the purpose is if its just endless meetings. Why do these folks not give the tools to manage your mental health? If you are NOT armed with those skills sets it seems you are dependent upon what ever care giver you go to.....
The end goal is to get you treated and for you to be able to be in reemission. I’ve had a psychologist before and with good therapy I no longer need him unless I fall off track. I dont know anyone who has seen the same therapist for years over the same problem. Sounds more of a “you issue”
Therapy is not supposed to be permanent as a psychologist myself I usually have a treatment plan for my clients and after they have the tools to manage their issues on their own I let them go . Also if my client feels like they are good on their own and I can also see that they are I also let them go
Patients have to be willing to make changes on their own. Sometimes it is important for patients and clients to have reasonable goals. I’m three months in therapy after battling with GAD for 2 years and it’s really working. It’s almost like realizing there is one big knot with a bunch of little knots(issues) and little by little, with each goal being completed something gets unknotted and you’re willing to do it on your own. But as you keep talking about deeper issues you start to realize there are more underlying issues that are uprooted as you self reflect you are able to make some changes in your day to day life. I was not able to see these smaller issues because I was way too focus on the bigger issue and I wouldn’t have seen that unless my psychologist pointed it out. Sometimes you need an unbiased third opinion without someone you know to see behind that brain fog. Other people just need to be heard and need someone to talk too.
So true everyone is trying to be a mental health professional they need to stop. Many people who are calling people crazy is mentally ill and suffering ,emotional and personality disorders severely themselves. You need to go across the country and promote and discourage the importance of non professionals trying to diagnosis mental health. Some of these people are not even graduates of any college thier degrees are in business management, education, some work in law in lay position or law enforcement which only requires a GED or Highschool education and training. I heard a dumpster truck driver calling a woman crazy I'm like this is extremely dangerous. It's slander too I always seek mental health professionals during the times of crisis everyone of us will go through. Such as divorce, custody of the best for the children in divorce,a loved one dying any crisis losing a job it's important to seek help. So it's equally important to discourage the abuse of mental health if you are not a mental health professional shut up. Because new norms are abusing the mental health field it's insane.I don't want to relate to certain mentalities and that doesn't make me crazy because I'm not adopting to your toxic unhealthy view of a certain culture, political view or religious belief. I'm a sound minded individual that knows healthy individuals are capable of thinking independently and differently no matter what there culture, background and life circumstances are. Your brain and my brain are two different brains so focus on your brain health. I'm doing a excellent job on mine dealing with circumstances that many would have really surcome to a mental health break and it has been proven all Ive been through with the assistance of seeking professional Psychiatrist and psychologist. I've never had a mental break ever every psychologist, psychiatrist or therapist I've sought out has never diagnosed me with absolutely any mental health issues. So the only one who is crazy is the ones who continue saying some one who has been medically proven by multiple Doctors licensed and have the Degrees and practices within the State to legally determine a mental health diagnosis in anyone. Who Keeps saying some one Who has on different occasions been cleared on all and any levels of having no mental health issues at all. It's like being negative on an HIV test and some one says you have HIV or Not diagnosed with breast cancer but some crazy person who wants you to be keeps saying you have these diseases.Or some nut saying you're addicted to opioids because you take Advil pm over the counter and you're medical records clearly y shows you are allergic to opioids and have no history of being prescribed anything but Ibuprofen for pain. This individual is crazy Promotion of seeking professional Psychiatrist and psychologist who are competent enough to confidentially diagnose and treat thier patients mental health needs are the only ones qualified to discuss mental health in anyone. You want to be a Psychiatrist go work to be one other wise keep picking up trash off the side of the road. Most people who do this are projecting thier own personal battle with mental health and have set Infront of the same people I have a professional Psychiatrist Psychologist or therapist in the mental health field and they was diagnosed. I have a healthy brain and sound mind I know this because it's been Psychiatrist and psychologist approved by board certified Doctors who are licensed professionals within mental health medical field in my State. Keep serving people your work is needed a sound mind is detrimental to live a independent healthy life . My brain is sane certified who gives one care of what a manic has to say go take your meds please to ensure you don't become a threat to someone
Hi. I have been feeling symptoms for a couple of years Brain feel like it foggy all the time. I've been to many doctors and 3 ER visits as of late. No one can find anything wrong with me, but they all say anxiety which i think it's more than that. I get twitching right eyes and shortness of breath. I have passed out twice which prompted 3 visit. I have heart palpations. Now all of this happens for about 2 months but then it and is still ongoing Now im worried again cause last night as i was trying to go asleep it felt like my brain shut off, kinda like i wasn't there for a second. For like 3 days now i have been feeling like a pass out feeling but havent passed out and now last night that wierd brain thing happened. I have got these feelings of passing out during the years ive been feeling symptoms and they last for about a week then i will bounce back but never had what happened last night. What could this be?? I have had my blood taken also ct scans of my brain, chest and heart scan and everything they say is normal. I dont feel normal at all now for 2 years. Ive taken so many test and seen like 4 different regular doctors but never they refered me to a neuro. Now i have no insurance to go to doc and check cause the price went up. Any thought on what could be wrong with me would be doing help. I just want my young life back as im only 38 years old and was very athletic before all of this.
I stopped at 1:27...I mean I came here seeking someone with a clear mind and this guy doesn't even give a straight answer to what he is being asked....I'm out of here.
I appreciate you highlighting psychologists. What about LPCs, LMFTs, and LCSWs? The only thing we don’t do is class A psychological assessments (MMPI, Weschlers, Inkblot, Projective tests, etc) and that’s it if 1000s. That’s it. Psychologists are NOT the only experts in the mental health field.
They said they are going to breakdown all the different clinicians in the mental health field in the upcoming series. It was toward the end of the video. I'm so glad they are including Licensed Social Workers. People are always looking over us!
@@shad6519 what kind of fear problems? I cannot tell you there's a cure or not but when you learn how to deal with it. It automatically ceases to be a problem so that's how you can say u get cured but not every illness can be solved with a pill all you have to learn is how to deal with it
@@shad6519 what kind of fear problems? I cannot tell you there's a cure or not but when you learn how to deal with it. It automatically ceases to be a problem so that's how you can say u get cured but not every illness can be solved with a pill all you have to learn is how to deal with it
@@Hss922 fear of elevators, driving, water, animals, big dogs, thunderstorms, trucks and traveling in the Airplane, swimming, water, inside the car with unknown drivers and unknown roads. Please help me accordingly. Thanks
This doesn’t answer the question in the title, I just need to know the actual difference. I guess I’ll watch a different video. Thanks for wasting my time.
There's no clear delineation as the field overlaps. One prominent difference though is that of prescribing medication. Psychiatrist can prescribe, but Psychologist can't. But even that is blurring as Psychologists can also take now additional education/training to be certified to administer medications. Every country too has their differences they may even cover fields where they are not specialized or trained so its really good rule-of-thumb to check their background for certifications, achievements, client feedbacks, etc. With that, you'll have to settle with these tip toe differences to define them. 🙂
There isn't much difference between a psychiatrist and psychologist, they both study the same pseudoscience and only a psychiatrist can prescribe drugs. They are both mentally ill though.
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I'm kinda disappointed that he didn't really get into the differences between a psychiatrist and psychologist. Basically, a psychiatrist is a doctor, and as such, they are trained to solve medical problems by way of medicines and medical treatment. They have a vast knowledge of medications and their desired and or undesired effects and are trained to use their prescription pads to solve mental issues from a medical point of view. Psychologists are very different in that they are NOT medical doctors. They are trained to apply a therapeutic approach to improve mental health, i.e. conversational therapy, etc. They have a vast range of conversational techniques and exercises at their disposal to help bring about an improvement in behavioral or mental health.
Which approach a patient requires is a very tricky concept. I work in the mental health sector and have been informed by many of our clients in psychiatric care that haven't noticed much improvement in their mental health, despite the medication given them by their psychiatrist. Many times they are able to achieve a vast improvement after switching to a psychologist. The reverse, however, is just as true. Many of our clients that have seen a therapist for years also report sudden improvements after switching to medical treatment by a psychiatrist. As a general rule however, most of our clients report that the first reaction of their psychiatrists is to issue a prescription.
if i wanna get a diagnosis to see if i have any mental illness, who do i go to?
@@idkwhattowritehere5104 Depend on your problems. Maybe clinical psychologist is better. If the therapy from them won’t work out, then you might want to try to go to a psychiatrist to get medications. Personally I don’t like getting medications for mental health issues. The meds just make you calm or sleepy, but they won’t solve anything 😬
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@@lilyblack1979 "Personally I don’t like getting medications for mental health issues." - Well it all depends on the mental health issue, doesn't it? There's an entire range of mental health issues that derive great benefit from prescribed medication, e.g. schizophrenia, certain forms of depression, etc. Many of our clients at work have reported vast improvements in their quality of life since they started taking medication and wouldn't be able to imagine their lives without it. One client with a severe form of depression that led to trembling hands, violent outbursts, sleeplessness, digestive problems, inability to get out of bed in the mornings, etc., was able to resume normal daily activities after a psychiatrist prescribed medication. Before then, he had been seeing a clinical psychologist for several years without any noticeable improvement. Now he's once again employed and the relationship with his wife and kids has vastly improved due to his lack of violent outbursts and unpredictable mood swings. And that's all thanks to medication.
Sir I'm currently in 9 standard and I don't know which field to choose.i am good at giving advices,comforting,logical thinking, understanding and knowledge of science and mind.i also know 3 languages right now.so,what you think would be a better field for me?
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High five ! Suggest a list of stressful experiences? Like, most stressful to, least stressful.
Learning to drive, moving house. Death. Might be interesting.
To become a Psychologist in the United States, you need:
- A Bachelor's degree = 4 years
- A Master's degree = 2 years
- A Doctorate in Psychology or Clinical Psychology = 3 years (or more)
- A clinical residency of between 1750 and 3500 hours depending on the state = 1-2 years
- Then you must pass the EPP exam
So before you can reach the point of working independently as a Licensed Psychologist who has earned the protected title of "Psychologist", it will take about 11-12 years.
And I would be remiss not to point out how difficult it has become in most states to even secure a clinical residency position to accumulate the hours you need to satisfy state licensure requirements. It's gotten so bad that it's caused a shortage and has made states like New York hand Psychologist level diagnosis and treatment responsibilities down to Licensed Mental Health Counselors.
you dont need masters can go straight into doctorate
@@user-oy6ev5mj6h Not in the United States. Here you need a Master's in Psychology or another similar discipline.
@@TheChallenger1000 yup im in the states too. You need to have either masters, doctors, or license to practice. And for psyd you can get right into it after undergrad. Not tryna pick on u or anything, i got to know about it recently
@@user-oy6ev5mj6h That's true for BS to PsyD programs but those are exceptions as there are only a few of them in existence in the U.S. And even in those, they often have a Master's degree program built-in. Besides those few exceptions, APA accredited programs normally make a Master's a requirement.
The sad part is, after research- I eventually decided that I need BOTH!!!
Therapist and psychiatrist? Most people should do both.
Perfectly normal. Not sad at all.
You don't need either
It's all a scam, they just want your money
I've seen so many and always felt worse every time, I hate them so much,
Seriously? Psychiatry is nothing but a bunch of pill pushers and con-artists. Watch this documentary to learn more about the truth of this corrupt profession. th-cam.com/video/zg0TFkFDtyA/w-d-xo.html
When Dr. Domenick Sportelli explains, I can easily understand the point he is putting across.
So what it needs to be said is that this is of course US specific. In Other countries these things vary - widely often.
Agree, but still useful
I hate to say it but that seems to be the common theme among US psychologists. They make themselves the experts when half the time they don’t know what they’re talking about- at least from my personal experience. But go figure- a lot of what we talk about and are trained in is culturally biased 🤷🏾♀️
What she said 👆 In Canada, what the title can and can't do with people varies between provinces.
@@keishafromscratch nobody knows everything and I really don't understand why you would glean that comment from the video. If you find one that is inept go to the next but in mental health please don';t discourage someone from treatment because of personal experiences. It is too important. I hope you found what you need if not I would be happy to help.
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People tend to leave out neuropsychological testing as a core skill of psychologists.
As a school psychology student, I am interested in how school psychologists get licensed to test people neuropsychologically.
@@lukechristian8371 Oh cool. I went through the school psych PhD route. And then completed post doc hours (and predoc hours) under the supervision of a licensed psychologist before taking the EPPP exam to become licensed.
Does passing the EPPP help school psychologists get certified in neuropsychological testing?
Psychiatrist for meds, psychologist for therapy
I went to a Psychiatrist, she had a big group of followers.
Yes, I walked a long way there. I wondered about the economy. Qualifications. Jobs. I struggled to gain my Driving licence. Read, a book. And, looked at Stress.
Like. A list, of Stressful experiences!
My psychiatrist is just a pill pusher. Never really interested in my true mental health just how the meds are effecting me.
Yup that is what psychiatrist are specialized in so if that doesn’t fit you try seeing a psychologist they would probably do more of what you are talking about
All they care about is getting paid.
That is what they do. They don't do therapy they evaluate for medication. If you don't want medication go to a psychotherapist.
Probably you need a psychologist. Medical doctors treat with medicines…
what medical doctor does more than that? you probably need to look for a psychologist for therapy. or a psychiatrist who's also a psychotherapist
I find it incredibly frustrating to get a psychologist in my country is so difficult. I've seen so many psychiatrists but what I need is less medication support and more therapy and talking things out. I don't know if it's a sign of a bad psychiatrist or if the profession itself relies too much on medication.
You can refuse meds and look into CBT or DBT find a therapist that specializes in those areas
i am wondering too. i went to a psychiatrist for the first time the session only lasted for more or less 15 minutes and the doctor didn't even tell me clearly what my diagnosis is but she prescribed me medicines. is that supposed to happen or?
@@Mandy-gy3wh No. Avoid meds unless they can explain clearly how this will help e.g. schizophrenia you need meds due to loss of reality etc
Try to pay privately if possible and take charge
Psychiatrists are medical doctors, so their main approach is to offer medical explanations and medical solutions, which often aren’t necessarily the best approach. You need to see either a clinical psychologist or a therapist specific for your difficulty
Ok - folks; the most important thing to understand - is how to navigate channels.
> You need a referral to get to a psychiatrist - if you are seeking medical solutions.ie prescription drugs.
Only a psychiatrist can write out the prescriptions & monitor you for possible side effects, etc. Make sure you’re doing ok on the meds. The psychiatrist is not a counselor for you, to discuss your issues.
> A psychologist - social worker - or counselor : is where you can actually talk through your behavioral/ mental/ emotional / or relationship problems. They are the ones who are going to be w. you in the trenches. .
> It’s important to find the counselor that Is right for you. How does that work ? You will know it by how you feel when you’re in session with them.
You should feel safe, comfortable, cared for & heard. You should feel validated & supported. That’s for starters.
It’s possible to get excellent therapy w/o the use of meds. Meds are for people who have true difficulty functioning - but even then it’s a choice, not a guaranteed solution.
> Best wishes to all !
PS - as a reminder. None of these venues will magically solve your problems,
Those problems will still be there. Pills or no pills, counseling or no counseling. Just so you know. ...
Psychiatrists often do not take insurance. That's a huge issue.
You are right and we have to stop letting insurance companies lobby in their direction
100 percent on the money right there.
The reason that people go to their primary care doctor is because insurance doesn't always pay for for some people to just look for a psychiatrist and make an appt. without a referral.
Also finding a competent Dr. in either field is extremely difficult!
What Dr. Sportelli fails to mention is that despite the 12 years of training that psychiatrists have, compared with 11 for clinical psychologists and 6 for clinical social workers, there is not one shred of peer reviewed data that patients are better served by any of these professionals in psychotherapy. This is because psychotherapy, and working with people in general, is far more of an art than a science. Some people have what it takes to develop the art. Some don't. And the bulk of all university training is focused on academic knowledge. Not a good way to learn how to work with people especially in clinical settings.
In my many years of seeking professional help for my own mental health issues I have only found one...ONE...professional who gets it. Even the "professionals", who think they get it, don't.
Thank you!! I’m 49 and finally figured out what’s been wrong with me my entire life. I went and got a psych eval to get diagnosed and she was wrong way wrong. I know she’s the pro but I also know myself better than her or the stupid eval. Nothing more annoying than a doctor trying to inflict the ego him of “trauma” on some of your past when it’s not as traumatic to you as it seems to be to them. The only thing traumatic about my so called “trauma” is that it’s getting in the way of a proper and correct diagnosis. If she couldn’t diagnose me with adhd because I whale anxiety and depression Amd they have “the same symptoms” she should have told me that before I paid $1800 for the evaluation when I informed her I was already diagnosed with anxiety and depression. Sorry but some 32 year old kid doesn’t know more about me than I do just because she went to college. Js
@@Oceans780 I thought I had to have a psych eval to be diagnosed and it states they do adhd tests so I thought that meant the knew all about it. She told me she wouldn’t be a good scientist if she diagnosed me with adhd even though I have all the symptoms. When she asked me about having traumas in my life she literally lit up when I answered and told me she specializes in trauma. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ I knew then it wasn’t going to go the right way. I wasn’t there about traumas. I’ve been to therapy most my life. I needed validation from a professional about something I already knew and had just found out. Some of these things happened 40 years ago...I’m over that shit. Since it appeared they did specialize in adhd and for it to be so wrong I really don’t know what to do. I’m second guessing myself even though I’m so positive I’m right. It’s weird. I’m defeated.
@@SupernovaX72 same here. My childhood traumas were due to having parents with ADHD! Yes, I have depression, but that doesn't mean I couldn't also have inherited ADHD from my parents - nobody in my family has ever been diagnosed with ADHD before, because we all considered each other normal. You can't get a diagnosis unless other people find you annoying.
@@obgfoster it’s so frustrating and yes I’m convinced my mother and son have it too but my mother would never ever ever believe it or admit it. I think my dad might have been bipolar or ptsd from viet nam and his rough childhood. When I finally looked into adhd I was shocked because it wasn’t what I had thought it was. It made everything in my life make sense for the first time and In only a matter of seconds. I finally have an explanation.
For example this evaluating doctor thinks because I grew up in Colorado and there were so many mass shootings there and I was living there when the columbine thing happened that that is a trauma for me. Ummmmm no no it’s not. It most definitely deeply affected me but is not a trauma and definitely has nothing to do with my messed up adhd like brain 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
I get that. In all fairness that’s how it will be for many people, and a lot of times it has nothing to do with how a clinician is trained. It has more to do with the ability of the clinician to connect with you and Vice versa. If there’s no connection there the sessions will not work. Plus, in my opinion, many clinicians stick to providing therapy they’re comfortable with whether it works for you or not. They get on my nerves lol
As a psychologist in Colombia, I´d say if you require medication to manage your mental health, you go to a psychiatrist. BUT, in most cases, this treatment should be accompanied by treatment with a psychologist. Psychiatrists don´t do psychological therapy, just medicinal "therapy". I would say it´s best to start with a psychologist, then that profesional can remit you to a psychiatrist if needed.
If a person isn´t stable enough, a psychologist can´t start therapy bc the person just wouldn´t be able to respond, so medication is needed to level the person out first so that they can be present in the therapy.
This is true. You would work your way up to the help needed. Or you may be able to stop once you have found the right fit that Is
needed before you go further.
Social Workers usually have a Masters's only. But they can do alot with it for children, adults or working with families to try to make their lives a little better.
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Medication can solve your anxiety or depression temporarily period of time while congative behaviour therapy can solve the root of the problem for long period of time and psychologist can teach you how to act during difficult situation
@foxycat90210 Thank you for all you do in the community. So much appreciated! I would say that there are many of us psychiatrists who employ psychotherapy actually. Understanding diagnosis is crucial, but also understanding the vast array of treatments available is equally important. While medications play a role, there's clear evidence that therapy has huge benefits for many disorders, and even those without a disorder. For those reasons, psychiatrists understand that therapy can be quite helpful, and because of that, many of us psychiatrist learn, understand and know how to employ psychotherapy. Regardless, thank you for all that you do, I very much appreciate your contributions to the community!
I get treatment from both, both is better than just one of them
First a person should visit a psychiatrist for diagnosis or if needed medication
Then to a psychologist for therapy if needed
It's often in fact vice versa but can depend on the severity of the disorder. Licensed psychologists are as (if not more) capable and educated to diagnose mental health disorders as a psychiatrist, whose first course of action is almost invariably to apply medicinal therapy. That's what they're trained to do--treating disorders with medication over therapy. After obtaining a diagnosis from a psychologist, it'll be established whether medication is necessary, in which case they refer the patient to a psychiatrist. They work hand-in-hand so one should never be dismissed over the other.
Actually in most US states any independently licensed mental health professional can diagnose a mental illness. Psychologists, counselors, and social workers can legally diagnose a mental health problem. But some people are not comfortable with that
@@e.b.4379 Thank your input on this. Psychiatrists aren't trained to use one treatment over another. We are trained to diagnose first and foremost. Understanding a diagnosis is crucial. And to understand a diagnosis you need to be familiar with a broad range of disorders and formulate an appropriate differential. This often times can include medical disorders that can contribute to mental health disorders, such as thyroid dysfunction for example. Psychiatrists then have to know when to use a certain treatment and when not to employ one. We look at risk-benefit ratio, burden of proof of the disorder in question, and a good psychiatrist will collaborate with the patient on a treatment of their choice. Many psychiatrists, myself included, are trained in both psychotherapy and medication management. And as a result, because we intimately know both types of treatments, we have a better understanding of knowing when to use one over the other. While there are, unfortunately, poor psychiatrists out there like any other field, I wanted to instill some hope that there are actually psychiatrists who do much more than just prescribe. Thanks for your input though!
I think psychologists and psychiatrists should be categorized into different specialties, like adhd psychiatrist for children (adhd pediologist), psychiatrist for bipolar disorders, and given a specific title, like bipolarologisr, lol,, just like you would see a foot doctor for plantar ficiatis and foot pain and and they are categorized as podiatrists. Patients should be given a psychological test in order to see the correct psychiatrist/psychologist to treat their mental illness.
They do. Clinical psychologists are the only ones who can assess and diagnose people with autism. Furthermore if there is more of a chemical imbalance neural wise then the psychologist more than likely would refer him to a psychiatrist. They don’t need “adhd psychiatrist” and so forth. You go to school for all these years and do internship or residency to learn about these disorders. There are such things as a child psychologist and psychiatrist which is in scope of what you are saying.
3) Eventhough I try wake up early to prepare on my project, also meditate my internal ability would be weak, use less brain (might be due to procrastination) so I spend lots and lots of time on the subject, with very low output, even during meditation my internal desire would be low, again the same thing am not working to my ability, if I force to focus then very soon I loose it puts me to lazyness zone, Eventhough I desire to achieve, I try hard to raise my will power but because of my said weakness I failing to achieve, for someone to achieve should work very hard using full brain ability, should burn blood, work so that that failure shoukd run away but my weakness of non using brain, lazyness will not give success to me
A lot of insurance companies require you to go to your primary care physician and get a referral before they will cover any of the very few behavioral health treatments or appointments they actually allow. That is very important, because it is very expensive.
Kind of like going to your dentist because you have a toothache. You have to pay the dentist's exam fees, x-ray fees, and who knows what else they want add on to the bill. The dentist tells you you have an abscess and need a root canal. Insurance only covers the exam fee once every 6 months for cleaning purposes. So now you have to wait 6 months or pay another exam fee, x-ray fees and who knows whatever else they want attach on to the bill for the endodontist to examine the tooth again. Then once you pay the endodontist to do your root canal, you have to go back to the dentist and pay exam fees, x-ray fees, and whatever else they want attached on to the bill to get the crown put on and hope that fixs the problem for a few years with three times the dental hygiene practices to keep the infection at Bay.
None of the psychiatrists in my area accept health insurance anyway, so self-referral is a real option.
@@obgfoster it's always been an option if you want to pay for it yourself. But if you want help covering the cost it's a lot more work For What Little you will get out of it. The only reason I was able to afford marriage counseling and my own temporary counseling was because of insurance through the marketplace and only for that one year that I qualified for that good insurance plan.
Don't get me wrong please, but I am all for advocating for myself. I want to be in charge of my treatments, not a "doctor" that won't listen to me anyway. So I quit paying them for nothing / uselessness / wasting my time and started getting all the same information online that I choose how to implement for my own self improvement.
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I will elaborate on the work of a psychologist since it was not addressed during the video. To become a clinical psychologist one must complete a bachelor's degree in mental health (4 years), a master's degree in mental health (3 years) or go directly to a doctorate degree in psychology which can be a PsyD or PhD (4 - 6 years) where we must also do a doctoral dissertation/research (1 - 2 years) and a year of internship in addition to clinical rotations in hospitals and outpatient clinics; and if we want to specialize we must do an additional year or two depending on the specialty (neuropsychology, forensic psychology, trauma). In total, a psychologist studies between 10 to 13 years of mental health compared to a psychiatrist who studies 4 years of mental health during their residency. Both psychologists and psychiatrists can diagnose and treat mental health illnesses. The psychiatrist bases their treatment on medication unless he/she/they is trained in some model of psychotherapy; on the other hand, the treatment offered by clinical psychologists is in psychotherapy unless he/she/they specializes in prescribing medication (in some states such as New Mexico). The literature shows that the best treatment is a combination of psychotherapy and medication for most mental illnesses, so the collaborative work between a psychiatrist and a psychologist is essential in the recovery process for the patient. In addition, psychologists are trained to assess mental illness from a social, biological, environmental, behavioral and emotional aspect. In turn, they also offer evaluations through standardized tests to screen for mental illness (emotional, personality, neurodevelopmental), intelligence level, neurological disorders, among others. This is only a small part of the work that a clinical psychologist does. As a Doctor in Clinical Psychology, it seems to me that Dr. Sportelli has a reductionist view of what a psychologist is.
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Voy a abundar en el trabajo de un psicólogo ya que no se tocó durante el video. Para ser psicólogo clínico uno debe completar un bachillerato relacionado salud mental (4 años), un grado de maestría en salud mental (3 años) o ir directo a hacer un doctorado en psicología el cual puede ser PsyD o PhD (4 - 6 años) donde también debemos hacer una investigación/disertación doctoral (1 - 2 años) y un año de internado en adición a las rotaciones clínicas en hospitales y clínicas ambulatorias; y si desea especializarse deben hacer entre uno a dos años dependiendo la especialidad (neuropsicología, psicología forense, trauma). En total, un psicólogo estudia entre 10 a 13 años sobre salud mental en comparación a un psiquiatra que estudia 4 años de salud mental al hacer su residencia. Ambos psicólogos y psiquiatras pueden diagnosticar y tratar enfermedades de salud mental. El psiquiatra basa su tratamiento en medicamentos a menos que se entrene en algún modelo de psicoterapia; por otra parte, el tratamiento que ofrecen los psicólogo clínicos es en psicoterapia a no ser que se especialice para recetar medicamentos (en algunos estados como Nuevo Mexico). La literatura indica que el mejor tratamiento es la combinacion de psicoterapia y medicamento para la mayoría de las enfermedades mentales, por lo cual el trabajo colaborativo entre un psiquiatra y un psicologo es esencial en el proceso de recuperación para el paciente. En adición, los psicólogos estamos entrenados para evaluar la enfermedad mental desde el aspecto social, biológico, ambiental, conductual y emocional. A su vez, también ofrecemos evaluaciones mediante pruebas estandarizados para auscultar enfermedades mentales (emocional, personalidad, neurodesarrollo), nivel de inteligencia, desordenes neurológicos, entre otros. Esto es solo un poco del trabajo que realiza un psicólogo clínico. Como Doctor en Psicología Clinica, me parece que el Dr. Sportelli tiene unat visión reduccionista de lo que es un psicólogo.
Daddy Sportelli is insanely good looking.
He sure is. Somehow only very attractive people work on this youtube channel.
Well said
He looks like Superman.
Seriously!
There always has to be some nincompoop in the comments who can't refrain from commenting on someone's looks. Yawn!
Calling it “behavioural health” is a bit off to say the least. It comes from the cognitive idea of changing the behaviour will change the pattern but it’s not questioning the reasons for an individual to be having those behavioural issues. It’s basically “do as I say and you’ll be fine”.
Psychiatry is to medicine as astrology is to astronomy.
A psychiatrist is a medical specialist who treats mental illness that is categorised as a medical disorder and will usually require medication that a psychiatrist can prescribe. Psychologists, on the other hand, are experts in human behaviour and related to that how the mind and cognition regulates behaviour and feelings. Treatment is based on this, and psychologists cannot prescribe medication. Therefore Psychologists will treat problems like phobias, bad decision making, self esteem, addictions, and psychiatrists treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, major depression, and mental illness involving psychosis which will usually require medication for the patient to be able to function.
No, Psychologists treat everything a Psychiatrist is involved in. Psychiatrists mostly only prescribe medication.
@@makingpeoplebetter8654 A psychologist might provide supplementary treatment for some axis 1 mental illness, such as when the treating psychiatrist believes that a patient will benefit from cognitive therapy or social skills training, but the the psychiatrist would be the primary practitioner for axis 1 illnesses because of the need to monitor and prescribe medication and potentially hospitalisation, and that is outside the scope of a psychologist.
@@cathyh1680 No, it is not and in most countries, they are on the same level in the care hierarchy. Psychiatrist for meds (for axis 1), Psychologist for the actually difficult treatment that is extensive psychotherapy. I am so tired of this opinion that axis 1 would be "out of the scope of a Psychologist". We are well trained to handle these issues and I will work together with any physician if meds are needed (often times I will even suggest the meds). A psychologist should fight for the privilege after additional training to be enabled to prescribe meds (some states in the Us allow that already).
That's a simplistic and in parts inaccurate comment.
@@makingpeoplebetter8654 true
Many doctors today prefer the patient visit a psychologist instead of taking medication, sometimes it can help but talking to a psychologist about the obvious can be a pain in the backside, anxiety should be treated with medication and some visits to a psychologist, what many do wrong is, banish the medication completely and use the new age response of going to psychologist as the preferred way of treatment, it works both ways and the psychologists should acknowledge this and stop having a negative attitude towards pharmacological treatment.
As a psychologist I do support the use of medication , but only when it’s necessary because medication can cause dependency and unwanted side effects and really medication is trial and error it may work it might not . What I do prefer is supplements things like Gabba, melatonin , mentat , etc
WoW! Fascinating! Thank you both for being a blessing to me. Totally educational! Please remain awesomely blessed and empowered. Best wishes to you, your teams, followers, service users, supporters and families for the year 2022 and always. :-)
Are all psychiatrists also psychopathic? And how psychic can one expect to be once becoming a psychologist?
Thank you for this! Helpful, timely and needed!
I love listening to Dr D,
Ps what if one doesn't really like the therapist and psycologiest or psychiatrist.but still keep seeing them anyway?
Usually because they're the only providers in the area, or because they've already started with than..
I used to be wary of psychiatrists just because I understand it is primarily prescription based. And I thought I could do it without the meds.
But after 16 years of hell, I finally made the jump. First time in my life I felt... Normal. Ofc it's not going to be the answer to everyone but for my specific case, it's what I needed. And those drugs have literally saved my life. The disadvantages are heavily outweighed by the advantages.
I reached a critical point in my life where I either take the pills, endure the side effects or I was going to kill myself. Already planned it out and bought all the things I needed. It was that severe.
Whats the difference between a psychologist and a therapist then if you use this definition? That doesn't make sense to me.
I am currently a psychology student and there are specific courses for each - Psychologist BSc and Therapeutic Psychology BA - my understanding the is the psychologist is based upon a more scientific structure hence the B(achelor) of Sc(ience) at the end and Therapeutic psychology is a B(achelor) of A(rts) based area.
Also I was told that a psychologist works with people with specific mental disorders such as borderline personality disorder and schizophrenia where a therapist deals with more generalised issues such as depression, eating disorders and grief. Both share use of therapy but not both are "therapists" is how I best understand it.
You were taught wrong.
I have seen nurses more than Doctors. The most in a single setting from my Experience is 5 min per hospital visit for a basic check up.
What about the generation of psychiatrists that subscribe to a wholey biological model and do nothing but pills? Or the psychologists who are wedded to a single therapeutic modality because they chose psychology because of their own issues? I'm a primary care doc and fully trained psychotherapist who's appalled at the quality of care from so many mental health professionals. Fundamentally, it's an expensive process of 'auditioning' providers because the therapeutic alliance is everything. Hopefully a primary care doc can help you sort out the dross. Nevertheless, most folks who need it really can't afford this kind of treatment
Exactly. I think if they’re going to talk about each area of mental health they need to bring an expert of each area including a primary care doctor and psychotherapist.
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as for myself i use to be a LVN with a HHA ans an HUC But due to my health I never kept my certs up ,Went down ambulating a resident ended my Career blew my back out to a point it couldn't be fixed.can't ethicallyy fix a spin with more than 3vertabras effected in your lumbar spine without causeing issues and even more pain... But hey i'm alive and it could be worse.
I am a Doctor of Clinical Psychology. I am very clear about stating that and not just saying the word “Psychologist”, so that people don’t confuse the title of therapist with the the title of “Psychologist”.
A Psychologist is a person who acquired a Bachelors, Masters and Doctorate in Psychology =10 years. Prior to obtaining Doctorate, they must complete Pre Doctoral hours, along with a Doctoral researched based dissertation. After completing Doctorate degree, they are then required to complete 1-2 year post Doc hour. Psychologists are trained experts in understanding the mind and behaviors, diagnosing, assessing, treat mental health issues, behavioral issues, hardships and administer testing and assessments. Psychologists can also be therapists or Psychoanalysts.
A Psychiatrist is a medical doctor, who went to medical school and didn’t learn anything about the mind, mental health nor behavior. They strictly learn about the anatomy, everything below the mind. Psychology was birthed from Psychiatry in a way, which is the reason the names are similar. Psychiatrist, Psychologist and or Psychoanalyst. Psychoanalyst require an additional training. The first psychiatrist were medical doctors, who decided to flirt with the brain and behavior. From that birthed Psychoanalysis and then Psychology. The first psychological experiment was conducted in Egypt, making Ancient Egypt the birth place. Today’s Psychiatrist for whatever reason has decided they don’t want to work in medicine and go for a specialty in mental health to justify the decision. They complete residency in their specialty, which means training in mental health. They do no focus on mental health in the same way a Psychologist does. They pretty must just prescribe medication for psychosis, depression, anxiety and attention deficit. They are not concerned with the mind, layers and personality organization of the person. They dont care about your childhood, divorce, insecurities, hardships or splitting. They only focus on what they can prescribe for whatever issues and justify it is a means to resolving mental health issues. It is not. Some Psychiatrist become Psychoanalyst, which is a true form of treatment of psychological issues and or hardships.
A therapist focused on talk therapy. They receive a bachelors and masters degree. They can diagnose but mostly focus on talking with a person to help them resolve personal issues.
A counselor counsels and coaches a person experiencing hardships in life and in need of counsel.
He should’ve had me on show. Thanks for the video of informing others.
Both psychiatry and psychology are not a science. Has nothing to do with medicine and science. It's pseudoscience.
Confirmation Bias
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There is a bias here without having a Psychologist speak as well, and he doesn't cover the benefit to seeing a Psychologist vs. Psychiatrist. (Yes, I'm a licensed Psychologist.). A Psychologist has way more in-depth psychotherapy training (in a doctoral program, which took me 8 years to complete after a 2 year Master's program) -- this includes family/couples therapy, child psychology, assessment & evaluation (testing, which Psychiatrists are not trained specifically to do). Yes, a Psychiatrist has a medical background which certainly helps with medication evaluation and so on, but they have very limited "training" in knowing how to do in-depth psychotherapy -- what you heard him say here is that there training in therapy is limited to a one-two year residency/specialty, which primarily includes seeing patients under supervision, not a lot of in-classroom training. This is a huge difference.
The best psychiatrists do not just prescribe medications.
The field of psychiatry continues to be divided into fragmented areas of “specialization.” It may be difficult to clarify who does what. You may ask: What’s a MD, DO, LMFT, LCSW, PMHNP, PhD, PsyD, etc.? Who does therapy? Who doesn’t do therapy? What do all these terms mean? Why should I care?
The fact is that all psychiatrists are physicians (MD and DO). Many psychiatrists learn, understand and know how to employ appropriate therapeutic techniques and specific psychotherapy modes. Because psychiatrists (MD or DO) understand how to employ the broadest range of treatments of all the different types of “therapists” available, there is a clear advantage to having your therapist be a psychiatrist. While not all psychiatrists practice therapy, if you find one that does, it would benefit you to consider continual engagement with that psychiatrist. The best psychiatrist doesn’t just prescribe. They understand diagnosis, the wide range of treatments (therapy and medications) and know when to recommend one, the other or both.
Psychiatry is not a science. There is nothing to treat. Emotional problems are not illnesses.
Sam Witwer's doppelganger in voice, mannerisms and looks. Its like Dr. Dodenick could be his brother, its wild!
****** difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist is that the psychologist cannot prescribe medicine a psychiatrist MD can. Trust me, talk therapy helps a lot and has helped me more than any psychiatrist ever has only thing with a psychiatrist I’ve done for me that I’ve worked with have over prescribe me psycho tropic drugs that make you feel like a placid cow camera you become more suicidal by taking the drugs when you don’t take up. The best thing for depression, is some kind ofAdrenaline it’s excitement jumping off a cliff under the water parachuting base camping driving your fast car LOL you get the picture don’t psychiatrist keep your psychologist he’ll be your buddy and friend forever
Shut up. You're giving people dangerous advice. This may have helped for you but a lot of people who have depression need antidepressants, not to "jump off a cliff". You're ignorant, stop telling people not to go to a psychiatrist just because you don't need one.
I live in Australia and here out doctor decides where to send us and I know that my doctor would make the wrong choice.
You can actually go and see a clinical psychologist directly, try this!
Sounds like the US
Yes I can go to someone of my own choice, but there's no way I could afford it long term. That's the difference, if I went by my doctor I would perhaps be able to be on a plan. But the last time I tried this, it was about $200 a visit and although she was lovely, she didn't help me at all.
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my college enrollment is approaching and i’m still debating on whether i’d go into psychology or other degrees cause it takes many years to finally become a psychologist help
Try social work. You can do what a psychologist does with less schooling.
Human mind is the hardest thing to understand because it is untangle and so vulnerable
Before psychological diagnostic need at least 24 hours of isolation and pure bread water regiment calked detox time like master at arm in navy allowed in brig then analyze after detox time of 24 hours
Listen, I only have one gigantic doubt: do psychologist make a diagnosis or not?
Please, I’d be so glad if any of you all replied 😭😭😭
Yes if they have clinical training they do take medicaiton.
Do you want a diagnosis, or do you want to know what's wrong with you? The former is easier.
Yes psychologists do diagnosis
Yes psychologists give diagnosis the only thing they can’t do is prescribe medication .
Kind of insulting to read this as a board certified primary care physician. We treat many patients with depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, etc. There are many non-physicians (nurse practitioners and physician assistants) with a fraction of the training of a family physician or internist masquerading as psychiatrist and treating vulnerable patients. Please expose this part of the healthcare system that is taking advantage of our patients!!
As an A&E doctor, I'd categorically say that conventional medicine is not the end-all-be-all to all ailments. Mental health conditions and needs of each individual are different and a one-size-fits-all approach is a mistake on all fronts. I'm grateful for those non-medically educated and trained professionals because they look beyond what a regular GP would neglect, usually inadvertently but nevertheless... I also believe that many times alternative/complementary/holistic approaches are necessary to treat a patient alongside allopathic medical practices.
"Insulting" stop being the hero. It is nothing insulting about the information given. You can not have it both ways. PCPs do NOT have all the answers and extensive knowledge to treat complex mental health disorders. Psychiatric NP's and PAs are definitely not "masquerading as psychiatrists" and being in the healthcare profession how dare you. They actually fill a need for lack of PCPs time the doctor has to spend on mental health when he has other patients. Psychiatrists are a rare breed. They are champions to the healthcare field. Champions!!!! I have worked side by side doctors who have absolutely no clue. No you and doctors like you need to be exposed.
I am in the process of getting my PMHNP and I have nothing against psychiatrists and I would pick a psychiatrist any day over a psychologist or NP depending on the need for medication. However, we do have excellent training in bedside manner and not all psychiatrists have that. We are not doctors, and by no means are we trying to steal business.
@@tammyrhines since when did nurse practitioners have extensive training?? They have less training then a petsmart groomer and less clinical experience with online diploma mills churning out mid levels left and right!
So apparently I should be fixed from seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist for many years. People always have what you need to know. They not walked in my shoes
Try different therapists before you decide, at least 5 if not 10.
I agree with Make People Better. Shop around until you find the right person
After watching this I still don’t know who I’m suppose to call
Do you know, which medicine is effective for Psychological mind? Do you know the medicine name?
So if a psychiatrist literally says "severe genetic depression" how should I interpret that? -And no, I'm not joking.
It means you are predisposed to depression because of your genetic makeup. It could be something like an arrangement of genes that is sensitive to inflammation which could cause depression, or you may have certain neural processes that are wired in a way that impacts feel good hormones such as dopamine or serotonin. The best way to go about this is find what genes have the problem and get medication and cognitive behavioral therapy.
Interpret is as she's an idiot who just wants her paycheck at the end of the day those guys are total charlatans
Well, did the psychiatrist sequence your genome and locate the genes responsible for your depression? Can they even identify what those genes would be? I think they didn't, and they can't. I'm not a doctor, but I am a scientist. What that psychiatrist told you is a weak claim in scientific terms. On the other hand, the claim that bad things make you sad is a strong claim in scientific terms. It's up to you to look into it. It is true the psychiatrist is motivated by money, but so are most people.
What zatakification said. I dont see how they could locate the genes they are talking about, and also, what was the treatment they recommended you to do? They can prescribe some drugs that will be useful, but since we are talking about depression you should go see a psychologist and not only a psychiatrist.
@@zatakification sorry for the late response, I only just saw this after the most recent notification. No, they didn't. I saw the psychiatrist in a low income wellness center. This was my first time seeing a psychiatrist, having previously seen therapists and doctors in a screening context. He spoke to me for maybe twenty minutes before saying that and suggesting medication. Of all the screenings I've had, one person out of all of them didn't immediately jump to depression, offering a suggestion that honestly made more sense when I looked into it..
Their is huge demand of clinical psychologists these days, the psycotic disorders have enormously increased
Because of non usage of brain its got rusted which I feel bad, at times I feel if I would have used my brain ability my outcome would be at its best, I feel unfortunate about myself
looking into speaking with one, its march 28. was told i couldnt get in until july.... pretty nuts.
That’s a shame ... if you would like I’m a licensed psychologist I can do a virtual session for free if it’s really urgent .
i wonder if any of these doctors implores a neurologist before prescribing drugs in general?? seems psychotic disorders are assumed by symptoms rather than checking for neural spiking with scientific measures .psychiatry is all just guess work by assumption
It's interesting that the Doc calls it "behavioural health" all the time, as if what happens in the minds does not matter or is not in any way related to behaviours.
That’s why I stopped paying attention to most psychologists when they talk about other areas of mental health. They really do not know what they’re talking about
@@keishafromscratch he’s a psychiatrist not a psychologist wym?
What? That’s what it’s called...
@@desteny1393 FYI - Behavioural vs Mental Health: online.alvernia.edu/program-resources/behavioral-health-vs-mental-health/
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My M.D.'s prescription for me when I reported feeling suicidal was "Remember, God is just a prayer away."
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😲☹😠 hope you're OK.
oh no...
please see a psycholoist
@@makingpeoplebetter8654 I have a psychologist, and now that I'm vaccinated, I've set up a psychiatry appointment.
Both may need extra training in FDA training and nutritional and psychological effect
Member here. Thank you for this and the mew special
I take wrong meaning of any suitvation and things my mind takes wrong information or taking intercept of thigs
(FACTS OVA FEELINGS). Regardless of what Eu may Think about Urself r what Eu have been Told about Urself r what Eu have been Taught to Be-lie-ve about Urself there is NOTHING WRONG WITH EU THERE NEVA WAS
Well, I'm sunk already. Local phyc is junk. Proven. One actual psyciatrist, swamped.
(Small town). I am now going to figure out what I need, in mental health care ? In the beginning of my search for help, psyciatrist/ologist told me that a big part of my mental trauma was from how badly I was treated by the medical, as an injured worker. Then, I find that I had severe PTSD....Was a cop. But childhood trauma, ...Did not know.
WHAT A MESS. I see why "self medication" is so popular. This "seek help" will drive a person kookoo.
Test at least 5 if not 10 psychologists before
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Psyciatrists are always good in talking to, and describe what they see in me well...Two of them, so far. But when I am sent to psycologists, thats when it gets strange. I have even quarreled, and reported two, in the same clinic. And, of course, I have gotten nothing but more trauma remembering. I have learned more from talking to my brother,who lives in a big city, and suffered at the hands of my dad,like me...He sees "big folks", I suppose.
hi please make a video to differentiate between coaching and counselling thank you!
they should explain in simple term because I DONT UNDERSTAND
Basically psychologist - therapy
Psychiatrist - medical doctor certified to prescribe medication
But they both deal with mental health issues
i know we are all here for information but Dr. Sportelli is one handsome man hehe
Not entirely accurate. Psychologists do about 4 years of doctoral training (often 5 years) + at least 1 year of postdoctoral residency/fellowship, and are trained in neuropsychology, assessments, and therapies. There are many specialties within psychology as well, and board certifications which take further years of practice and study. In my experience - and I have worked extensively with psychiatrists in multiple settings - psychiatrists prescribe meds, but have very little knowledge of behavioral health or therapy. It is also noteworthy that in 5 states, Public Health Service, and the DoD , psychologists can earn prescribing psychotropic medications with additional training.
Very misleading information-psychologists being able to prescribe is ONLY permitted under physician (psychiatrist) supervision in the extremely limited scenarios where it is permitted, and when it is, it is due to physicians not wanting to practice much in that state, but furthermore, this does not discredit the reality that a psychologist does not spend a single day in medical school, and does not spend a second studying medicine. Therefore the most important distinction to be made is that a psychologist is not a physician, not a medical doctor, and not fundamentally an expert in human pathology, physiology, or pharmacology in the way that a psychiatrist (physician) is. A psychologist is an expert in their DISTINCT field, which is philosophical, not medical. Therefore the length of time that a psychologist spends studying, whether 5 years or 10, does not indicate that their training is the same as that of a psychiatrist who studies for 10 years because the nature of their training and education is ENITRELY DISTINCT. If I spend ten years studying carpentry, I'm not qualified to be a cardiologist just because we have both studied for 10 years, because we haven't been studying the same thing. Psychiatrists have little knowledge of behavioral health or therapy? Psychologists have no knowledge of human processes or bodily functions because they are not medical doctors. Your comment aims to present psychiatrists as psychologists with special prescribing abilities, but this uneducated oversight completely dismisses the entirely separate education and training associated with the two different professions. Nowadays many psychiatrists refer to themselves explicitly as physician psychiatrists because of this misconception.
Great intro video. Great work.
Much needed!
Are there anything overlapped between psychiatrists and psychologists?
Thanks!
Can you help me sir, or anyone in the comments?.
Yesterday at night i was in a room, i had to wait there until the smell of spray for mosquitoes disappeared so i can get out, because of a temporary fear from not long ago i felt like locked in in that room because i knew i won't be able to get out (I'm not claustrophobic) when i want to, while i was waiting there i was looking at my phone too which made me feel even more locked and hard to breathe, now when i left the room i didn't feel like I did, and even now i have the same feeling, I'm trying to convince my mind that I'm out not and that it's all good but it's not working much, i feel better for a bit and the feeling comes again, what should i do?.
Also the fear/trauma happened in the car with similar feelings as this, but then I felt normal.
Pls advise how to overcome my problems to be successful
I don’t understand why people needed a video about this. Wtf.
if you are seeing a "psychologist" what is the end goal? Continuous therapy sounds like a never ending cycle and while its helpful to discuss and evaluate your status, I don't see what the purpose is if its just endless meetings. Why do these folks not give the tools to manage your mental health? If you are NOT armed with those skills sets it seems you are dependent upon what ever care giver you go to.....
Have you ever been to a Psychotherapy session? If you've been to you'd know. 🙂
The end goal is to get you treated and for you to be able to be in reemission. I’ve had a psychologist before and with good therapy I no longer need him unless I fall off track. I dont know anyone who has seen the same therapist for years over the same problem. Sounds more of a “you issue”
Therapy is not supposed to be permanent as a psychologist myself I usually have a treatment plan for my clients and after they have the tools to manage their issues on their own I let them go . Also if my client feels like they are good on their own and I can also see that they are I also let them go
Patients have to be willing to make changes on their own. Sometimes it is important for patients and clients to have reasonable goals. I’m three months in therapy after battling with GAD for 2 years and it’s really working.
It’s almost like realizing there is one big knot with a bunch of little knots(issues) and little by little, with each goal being completed something gets unknotted and you’re willing to do it on your own. But as you keep talking about deeper issues you start to realize there are more underlying issues that are uprooted as you self reflect you are able to make some changes in your day to day life.
I was not able to see these smaller issues because I was way too focus on the bigger issue and I wouldn’t have seen that unless my psychologist pointed it out. Sometimes you need an unbiased third opinion without someone you know to see behind that brain fog. Other people just need to be heard and need someone to talk too.
So true everyone is trying to be a mental health professional they need to stop. Many people who are calling people crazy is mentally ill and suffering ,emotional and personality disorders severely themselves.
You need to go across the country and promote and discourage the importance of non professionals trying to diagnosis mental health. Some of these people are not even graduates of any college thier degrees are in business management, education, some work in law in lay position or law enforcement which only requires a GED or Highschool education and training.
I heard a dumpster truck driver calling a woman crazy I'm like this is extremely dangerous. It's slander too I always seek mental health professionals during the times of crisis everyone of us will go through. Such as divorce, custody of the best for the children in divorce,a loved one dying any crisis losing a job it's important to seek help. So it's equally important to discourage the abuse of mental health if you are not a mental health professional shut up.
Because new norms are abusing the mental health field it's insane.I don't want to relate to certain mentalities and that doesn't make me crazy because I'm not adopting to your toxic unhealthy view of a certain culture, political view or religious belief. I'm a sound minded individual that knows healthy individuals are capable of thinking independently and differently no matter what there culture, background and life circumstances are.
Your brain and my brain are two different brains so focus on your brain health. I'm doing a excellent job on mine dealing with circumstances that many would have really surcome to a mental health break and it has been proven all Ive been through with the assistance of seeking professional Psychiatrist and psychologist. I've never had a mental break ever every psychologist, psychiatrist or therapist I've sought out has never diagnosed me with absolutely any mental health issues.
So the only one who is crazy is the ones who continue saying some one who has been medically proven by multiple Doctors licensed and have the Degrees and practices within the State to legally determine a mental health diagnosis in anyone. Who Keeps saying some one Who has on different occasions been cleared on all and any levels of having no mental health issues at all. It's like being negative on an HIV test and some one says you have HIV or Not diagnosed with breast cancer but some crazy person who wants you to be keeps saying you have these diseases.Or some nut saying you're addicted to opioids because you take Advil pm over the counter and you're medical records clearly y shows you are allergic to opioids and have no history of being prescribed anything but Ibuprofen for pain. This individual is crazy
Promotion of seeking professional Psychiatrist and psychologist who are competent enough to confidentially diagnose and treat thier patients mental health needs are the only ones qualified to discuss mental health in anyone. You want to be a Psychiatrist go work to be one other wise keep picking up trash off the side of the road. Most people who do this are projecting thier own personal battle with mental health and have set Infront of the same people I have a professional Psychiatrist Psychologist or therapist in the mental health field and they was diagnosed.
I have a healthy brain and sound mind I know this because it's been Psychiatrist and psychologist approved by board certified Doctors who are licensed professionals within mental health medical field in my State. Keep serving people your work is needed a sound mind is detrimental to live a independent healthy life .
My brain is sane certified who gives one care of what a manic has to say go take your meds please to ensure you don't become a threat to someone
Hi. I have been feeling symptoms for a couple of years Brain feel like it foggy all the time. I've been to many doctors and 3 ER visits as of late. No one can find anything wrong with me, but they all say anxiety which i think it's more than that. I get twitching right eyes and shortness of breath. I have passed out twice which prompted 3 visit. I have heart palpations. Now all of this happens for about 2 months but then it and is still ongoing
Now im worried again cause last night as i was trying to go asleep it felt like my brain shut off, kinda like i wasn't there for a second. For like 3 days now i have been feeling like a pass out feeling but havent passed out and now last night that wierd brain thing happened. I have got these feelings of passing out during the years ive been feeling symptoms and they last for about a week then i will bounce back but never had what happened last night. What could this be?? I have had my blood taken also ct scans of my brain, chest and heart scan and everything they say is normal. I dont feel normal at all now for 2 years. Ive taken so many test and seen like 4 different regular doctors but never they refered me to a neuro. Now i have no insurance to go to doc and check cause the price went up. Any thought on what could be wrong with me would be doing help. I just want my young life back as im only 38 years old and was very athletic before all of this.
Do you think she should go to mayo or another well known hospital?
@@lindalemke7578 thank you.
My best advice would be to see a neurologist .. check if maybe you’re having absent seizures or something like that .
I am not an expert but this sounds like depersonalization/derealization combined with panic attacks
I just need to know do they take Blue Cross and Blue shield
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All need in modern world.
So is that different from a counselor or therapist
A psychologist can do both Counselling and therapy .. psychiatrists focus their treatment around medication
Hmmm I don't think this is very neutral when it comes about psychiatry vs psychology...
I stopped at 1:27...I mean I came here seeking someone with a clear mind and this guy doesn't even give a straight answer to what he is being asked....I'm out of here.
Lol 4 years. Most PhD programs are 6 years and most PsyD programs are 5 years, after that there’s usually post-doctoral training as well.
Doesn't matter. A psychologist is a cheap version of a psychiatrist. Lol
This is so going to trigger all the scientologists out there....mega lols
Sir kia phycologist ma books Urdu ma hoti hn ya Urdu ma
Psychiatry defiles and dehumanizes the very essence of humanity.
Psychologists and Psychiatrists are deeply disturbed.
Why are some Psychiatrists cold and lack empathy?
Because they're evil
They are doing it for money.
Well because their training does not require them to have empathy / understanding that’s more of a psychologist who would have those skills
@@ninazawadi239 People who have empathy dont need to be trained to have it, it is natural. Psychiatrists are garbage and should never be respected.
I probably can't afford to even talk to a specialist lmao
That's ok, they take customers for free as long as the government pays for it. They are looking for customers.
I appreciate you highlighting psychologists. What about LPCs, LMFTs, and LCSWs? The only thing we don’t do is class A psychological assessments (MMPI, Weschlers, Inkblot, Projective tests, etc) and that’s it if 1000s. That’s it. Psychologists are NOT the only experts in the mental health field.
They said they are going to breakdown all the different clinicians in the mental health field in the upcoming series. It was toward the end of the video. I'm so glad they are including Licensed Social Workers. People are always looking over us!
@@queencece3012 That's right! If you don't want to wait, you can watch the entire series here: watch.medcircle.com/mental-health-providers
We'll be covering lots of different types throughout this month. You can watch the entire series here: watch.medcircle.com/mental-health-providers
Sorry, but they are the only ones who can prescribe appropriate medications if need be.
And they lack fundamental psychological knowledge. That why they are like primary care providers for mental health.
I have fear problems and for that who should I consult? Any suggestions? Thanks
First you visit a psychiatrist if you require medication
And then if your doctor recommends therapy then you can visit a psychologist
@@Hss922 thanks. But is there any cure for fear problems? Thanks
@@shad6519 what kind of fear problems?
I cannot tell you there's a cure or not but when you learn how to deal with it. It automatically ceases to be a problem so that's how you can say u get cured but not every illness can be solved with a pill all you have to learn is how to deal with it
@@shad6519 what kind of fear problems?
I cannot tell you there's a cure or not but when you learn how to deal with it. It automatically ceases to be a problem so that's how you can say u get cured but not every illness can be solved with a pill all you have to learn is how to deal with it
@@Hss922 fear of elevators, driving, water, animals, big dogs, thunderstorms, trucks and traveling in the Airplane, swimming, water, inside the car with unknown drivers and unknown roads. Please help me accordingly. Thanks
Psychologist go to grad school for 6 years!
It's a pseudoscience.
Why's the doc so amped up ? 😂 Right from the beginning, i'm sorry but he's doing to much and he must know it lol.
Biological psychologist
Chinese academy of sciences institute of psychology
This doesn’t answer the question in the title, I just need to know the actual difference. I guess I’ll watch a different video. Thanks for wasting my time.
There's no clear delineation as the field overlaps. One prominent difference though is that of prescribing medication. Psychiatrist can prescribe, but Psychologist can't. But even that is blurring as Psychologists can also take now additional education/training to be certified to administer medications. Every country too has their differences they may even cover fields where they are not specialized or trained so its really good rule-of-thumb to check their background for certifications, achievements, client feedbacks, etc. With that, you'll have to settle with these tip toe differences to define them. 🙂
Addtional, but less prominent difference is that Psychiatry is usually in hospital settings & Psychologists more academic/private. 🙂
There isn't much difference between a psychiatrist and psychologist, they both study the same pseudoscience and only a psychiatrist can prescribe drugs. They are both mentally ill though.