Treaties of Perpetual Peace; Were they ACTUALLY Successful?

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  • @possiblehistory
    @possiblehistory  ปีที่แล้ว +446

    I am sorry, I appear to have made a mistake, there was in fact a war between the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Russians in 1792 (not sure how I missed that), so that one was a failure as well!

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Got it man! Incredible video nonetheless, You rock!

    • @WhatHadHappened_
      @WhatHadHappened_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was the time when Moscals took PLC land with other 2 empires

    • @snomcultist189
      @snomcultist189 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I will revive the Hittite empire and declare war on aegypt

    • @arnalluscaroli451
      @arnalluscaroli451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fret not! The video was crystal clear and it actually showed all the possible ways a perpetual peace is enforced stricto sensu whilst searching for all the possible results in the query, so it's a win-win situation!

    • @nicolausg7058
      @nicolausg7058 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, it was a war, about the 3rd May Constitution. Some spoiled magnats didn't liked the ideas of modernity and reforms, so they started a Targowica Confederacy, which called Russia for help. It was also the same war, where Polish War Order Virtutti Militari was created, by the Stanisław August Poniatowski, to honour victory of his much more talented nephiew - General-Major Józef Poniatowski. It was first Major Victory from the Sobieski's times. First victory, in the End of Times.
      But i think that that "Eternal Peace" between Russia and Poland was not succesfull. Russians fought in many wars on polish lands, like in the Northern War, or the 7 years war, where both Russians and Prussians were fighting on Polish lands, and devastating them during marches, as any other army of the XVIII century was doing, despite polish neutrality. In elections of August III and Poniatowski, russian troops were present at the Elective Sejm, and literaly were taking polish main legislative body hostage.
      Do not foregt also the Bar Confederacy, in 1768-1772, where most of the nobles got so much sick of russians, so they decided to kick them out of Poland. One of thier leaders was the Kazimierz Pułaski, or Casimir Pulaski how Americans know him. It was a regular war, that took place on the polish lands again.
      All of the partitions were backed up by russian military. So despite "no war" in theory, in practice it was an infringement of peace treaty, and even by the XVIII century standards, it was a clear breach.

  • @shubhanjalshukla3879
    @shubhanjalshukla3879 ปีที่แล้ว +807

    A 50% success rate maybe the most greatest achievment by humans in diplomacy ever.

    • @villagernewsletter3577
      @villagernewsletter3577 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s a bit too lenient tbh, yall humans aren’t peaceful at all, always so greedy (hmmm)
      Edit: I mean for the whole of diplomacy, not perpetual/eternal peace

    • @demilembias2527
      @demilembias2527 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      We did a pretty good job stopping nuclear war so far, especially in the modern world, 80 years is quite a long span of time.

    • @shubhanjalshukla3879
      @shubhanjalshukla3879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@demilembias2527 yet...

    • @villagernewsletter3577
      @villagernewsletter3577 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@demilembias2527 yes, the mad philosophy and mentality stopped that, survival of the species is more important than increasing territory or influence or interests or spreading an ideology to an enemy

    • @demilembias2527
      @demilembias2527 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@villagernewsletter3577 doesn't stop even people in modern America fearmongering and trying their hardest to manufacture consent for a war with China, despite China and America in no way posing existential threats to each other, and a war between the two in fact posing a great existential threat to both.

  • @jeanssold2131
    @jeanssold2131 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    "Eternal peace" between Russia and Poland always sounded like a bad joke to me during history lessons

    • @ElzariusUnity
      @ElzariusUnity ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Spirit vs Word.
      *3+ players PvP boardgames flashbacks*

    • @pawelsmok9905
      @pawelsmok9905 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Because it is XD

    • @chujciwdupe5786
      @chujciwdupe5786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🇷🇺🤝🇵🇱

  • @countryknow
    @countryknow ปีที่แล้ว +389

    the Polish-Russian treaty lasted till 1792 since that year the Polish-Russian War of 1792 broke out due to the Polish 3 May Constitution and it result in the Second Partition of Poland.
    But overall great video

    • @possiblehistory
      @possiblehistory  ปีที่แล้ว +155

      You are absolutely right, my bad, not sure how I missed that one

    • @strant930
      @strant930 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Don't forget about russian intervention in 1733 during the convocation sejm

  • @NovikNikolovic
    @NovikNikolovic ปีที่แล้ว +172

    The Hittite-Egyptian peace treaty lasted 69 years, only ending by outside factors. Nice.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Let me know when this comment gets 69 likes so I can add a like to it

    • @gg_plays7647
      @gg_plays7647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@concept5631 its 69 likes

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gg_plays7647 *49

    • @gg_plays7647
      @gg_plays7647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@concept5631 *🤓

    • @awesomebearaudiobooks
      @awesomebearaudiobooks ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@concept5631 It's at 66 likes now

  • @Hession0Drasha
    @Hession0Drasha ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I'd be curious to see a look at the relative power, both millitary and economic of european entities since the 1200's. Was france almost always twice the population of it's nearest competitors? How did the habsburgs compare demographically?

    • @possiblehistory
      @possiblehistory  ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Absolutely love that idea, will look into it!

    • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506
      @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Haabsburgs basically managed to keep up anti french alliances for a few hundred years. At least that's what Im thinking from the top of my head.

    • @jackcross4895
      @jackcross4895 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read Capital in the 21st century

  • @King_Eduard_II
    @King_Eduard_II ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "If the Entente Cordiale counts as a treaty for perpetual peace, it has, for now, succeeded." For now (menacingly)....

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Great video man! I assure you i wasnt sick of you saying Perpetual Peace over and over!😊
    Speaking of treaties: What if Henry V survived to ensure the Treaty of Troyes was honored and the Anglo-Franco kingdom was born?

  • @nyuzotturunk
    @nyuzotturunk ปีที่แล้ว +9

    An other failed one is the Hungarian-Yugoslav Treaty of Eternal Friendship. One of it's three points was literally "Permanent peace and eternal friendship will exist between the Kingdom of Hungary and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia." It was signed in December, 1940. Not quite four months later, in April, 1941 Hungary joined Germany and Italy in the invasion of Yugoslavia. It was one of the most dishonorable moment of our history, and Prime Minister Pál Teleki committed suicide because he could not talk Regent Miklós Horthy out of the decision.
    Of course, if we want to be really technical, the Independent State of Croatia was created on April 10, and the Hungarian troops joined the invasion on April 11, so some historian argue that Hungary never really inveded the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (which country had signed the treaty)... but Yugoslavia officially capitulated only on the 17th, so its a really weak argument.

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    You could argue the entente cordiale did fail during ww2. In ww2, France was split between vichy France and free France. Even the British recognised vichy France, but this didn't stop Britain attacking vichy French ships and invading vichy French colonies such as Syria.

    • @Thatonepersonyouheard
      @Thatonepersonyouheard ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehhhhhhh, at best you could call it a civil war, but really Vichy was just a puppet government

    • @masonhandforth1369
      @masonhandforth1369 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      But we can argue that it a different regime.

    • @Thatonepersonyouheard
      @Thatonepersonyouheard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@masonhandforth1369 why does that make it a legitimate government? Why should that government be considered part of France?

    • @jakubpociecha8819
      @jakubpociecha8819 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Then again, we can't forget about Free France

    • @jgr7487
      @jgr7487 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the UK was defending the territorial integrity of the French Republic it considered to be the rightful successor to the 3rd French Republic.

  • @alexandredumont8651
    @alexandredumont8651 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video 👌 but I feel like the Baqt between muslim Egypt and christian Nubia should have been mentioned too. It lasted almost 700 years, possibly the longest lasting treaty in history.

  • @TheFirstConcorde
    @TheFirstConcorde ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You could have mentioned the Treaty of Windsor (1386) and the Anglo-Portuguese Alliance, with the former being considered the cornerstone of relations between Portugal and England/ Great Britain/ The UK ever since

    • @RestitutorEuropa
      @RestitutorEuropa ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s not really a treaty of perpetual peace though because they never really went to war with each other in the first place

    • @sasi5841
      @sasi5841 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A one sided relationship where portugal held up their end of the bargain but Britain didn't

    • @Sceptonic
      @Sceptonic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sasi5841 The Pink Map

    • @sasi5841
      @sasi5841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sceptonic what?

    • @kermitthethinker1465
      @kermitthethinker1465 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But Portugal and England were technically never at war,so it isn't a perpetual peace treaty.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    If only those treaties worked man. Peace is such a crucial part on maintaining a stable state.😢😢

    • @psgamer-il2pt
      @psgamer-il2pt ปีที่แล้ว +15

      True but sometimes war is better then peace

    • @papalol1327
      @papalol1327 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@psgamer-il2pt el estadounidense menos beligerante:

    • @psgamer-il2pt
      @psgamer-il2pt ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@papalol1327 I am Australian

    • @AndrewVasirov
      @AndrewVasirov ปีที่แล้ว

      Sadly wars are now fought to divert attention from internal issues and unite the people against a common enemy.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@psgamer-il2pt 🤨🤨🤨

  • @adivshtein2054
    @adivshtein2054 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well, Gandhi (from Civilization) knows that perpetual peace is only possible when all that is left from your enemies is radioactive ash.

  • @scoogr
    @scoogr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dude I'm so glad I found your channel, Watching your videos gives me the same feeling of when I was first getting into history.

  • @SirBoggins
    @SirBoggins ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd love to see more Roman althistory, especially on Justinian. Perhaps a more realistic althistory of the conflicts he had with the west and east.

  • @TheGospelAccordingtoLuke-eu6sl
    @TheGospelAccordingtoLuke-eu6sl ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Technically, the 1904 treaty between Britain and France was perpetual since the Third French Republic that signed it was ended by the Nazis in 1940. The French resistance and their oversees colonies then became a new entity (Free France and the France Fourth French Republic after WW2) under Charles De Gaulle.

  • @isaacskinner5565
    @isaacskinner5565 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should make a video on how the Polish -Lithuanian commonwealth could have possibly survived (at least in some capacity) until the modern day. Obviously you would need to start from years before it came into being, but i think with a bit more political common sense, it could have survived, provided the Soviets kept it as its own individual SSR and didn't split it up.

  • @villagernewsletter3577
    @villagernewsletter3577 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    50%, damn that’s high. Perpetual peace sounded like a fairy tale to me at first and not something that would really happen, like even in this era where we have organizations like the un there are still multiple wars going on in Africa, the Middle East, etc. and ofc the Ukraine one which has been going since 2014
    Now I’m thinking of an alt hist scenario where a perpetual peace treaty was signed after ww2…how things would change and all and if it would uphold

    • @雷-t3j
      @雷-t3j ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of the wars in Africa and the middle east are not actually interstate wars, so they don't really count

  • @gimesibalazs2249
    @gimesibalazs2249 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In 1941 there was a "Treaty of Eternal Friendship between Yugoslavia and Hungary" which kinda can be considered a treaty of perpetual peace, i probably dont have to say but the treaty didnt last long...

    • @endreszentgyorgyi5270
      @endreszentgyorgyi5270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also hungary’s prime minister killed himself when germany told him that they were going to invade. He didn’t want to be considered an oathbreaker so he killed himself before he befell that indignity.

    • @talesferreiralimadossantos8806
      @talesferreiralimadossantos8806 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But didn't Hungary have clains in territories like Vojvodina?

  • @kokich646
    @kokich646 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    9:03 who's gonna tell him he spelt switzerland wrong

    • @NicolasTheKingphoenix10
      @NicolasTheKingphoenix10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sheisehzbheland

    • @kokich646
      @kokich646 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NicolasTheKingphoenix10 neironichno shte ti razshirq anusa tolkova kolkoto da moje glavata mi da vleze i da ti lija chervata

  • @savagedarksider2147
    @savagedarksider2147 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What if Ivan the Sixth wasn't usuped ?
    What if Mary I gave birth to A son ?
    What if Richard III won the battle of Bosworth ?

  • @dominicadrean2160
    @dominicadrean2160 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can you make a video on what if Richard the lionheart survived surprisingly
    There's not a single alternate history video about Richard the lionheart on
    what if he survived, which is surprising since if he survived, a lot of history would have changed

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting

    • @RestitutorEuropa
      @RestitutorEuropa ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly I don’t think that much would’ve changed. If he survived then the Angevins would’ve held their possessions in France for much longer. But he still likely would’ve never had legitimate children, and Philip of France was younger than Richard and therefore would’ve likely outlived him anyway and even if not so, then I’m sure his son would’ve still reconquered France during John’s reign and John probably would’ve still signed the Magna Carta as a result. So all it really would do is prolong the inevitable. But feel free to make points against what I said, I’m actually genuinely curious as to why you think otherwise.

    • @Ninjaluga
      @Ninjaluga ปีที่แล้ว

      Top much of a change and way too unpredictable

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Perpetual peace"
    You hear the kings and politicians say as they hold out one hand to shake and hold a dagger behind their backs with the other

  • @tobago3679
    @tobago3679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Entente cordiale from it's track record to it's raison d'etre (primary contemporary objectives) is one of the most resilient and successful diplomatic agreement/understanding of modern ages.
    (Through some very conflictual times, diverging and even competing interests at times)

  • @starman_3393
    @starman_3393 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what with "The Eternal Peace Treaty" ("Wieczysty Pokój" in polish) (between plc and ottoman empire signed in 1533)

  • @pep-qew
    @pep-qew ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In my opinion, the partitions meant aggression, illegal aggression and the dismantling of the Polish-Lithuanian State. Therefore, the treaty was a failure.
    Now, can I have your body pillow?

  • @fiendgaming9120
    @fiendgaming9120 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love ur vids :). I had an idea for an alternate history scenario as well, What if Austria took Bavaria instead of Lombardy-Venetia in the congress of Vienna?

    • @stekra3159
      @stekra3159 ปีที่แล้ว

      It woud no longer be the austria we konow and the baveryens woud grauch about it.

    • @fiendgaming9120
      @fiendgaming9120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stekra3159 Well I was mostly interested in the effects that would happen during and after the 1848 revolutions as Austria is (most likely) not at war with Lombary and they have far more germans in their empire, so ethnic tension may be reduced and they can start assimilating similar groups like the Czechs

    • @GAarcher
      @GAarcher ปีที่แล้ว

      Took both, diplo wins dude why not get both when the austrians helped so much

  • @santi2683
    @santi2683 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just can't imagine those diplomats doing anything else than laughing when signing those treaties

  • @ImAHeroOnHiroin
    @ImAHeroOnHiroin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn this one’s another hit

  • @Ilovechaos383
    @Ilovechaos383 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man I wish the world had perpetual peace

  • @stekra3159
    @stekra3159 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We might need a new global treaty of perpetual Peace.

    • @mrsillytacos
      @mrsillytacos ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not gonna happen soon with the Middle East and all that.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It might actually be more feisable in the 21st century

  • @nikolatodorovic70
    @nikolatodorovic70 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you do a video about what if Germany from 1939, suddenly, teleported to the world of 1914?

  • @ugbhffgg
    @ugbhffgg ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hope it’s good

  • @romanhopper
    @romanhopper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if vampires were real I have been asking every single Alternate history creator Since at least 2014 for this can someone deliver

    • @johnpyefinch3454
      @johnpyefinch3454 ปีที่แล้ว

      what kind of vampires and should vampires be explained by magic or genetics as a mutation.

  • @alphaeins6560
    @alphaeins6560 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sad congress of vienna noices

  • @THX-1138
    @THX-1138 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if the entente cordial failed?

    • @Aahmpower
      @Aahmpower ปีที่แล้ว

      The British Empire stays neutral during WW1, maybe

    • @Aureus07
      @Aureus07 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Aahmpowerwhile leaning towards the entente before Britain only joined ww1 because the Germans invaded Belgium who was friends with Britain the Germans would still do that meaning Britain which still get dragged in

  • @brtuh5865
    @brtuh5865 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what about vichy france in ww2? they were at war with the british

  • @nodinitiative
    @nodinitiative 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first time I have ever heard of this kind of treaty was from Episode 1 of the Tudors

  • @SirBoggins
    @SirBoggins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has the same energy as "The war to end all wars" LMAOOOOOO!

  • @HoradrimBR
    @HoradrimBR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure if there's a proposition of "eternal peace", but it's worth to mention the almost millennia of friedly relations between England and Portugal.
    Maybe a video about alliances could look at it.

  • @SmelvinTheSmelver
    @SmelvinTheSmelver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:57 What happened to that map?

  • @anguscovoflyer95
    @anguscovoflyer95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the treaty of universal and perpetual peace signed at the clothe of gold at Calais?

  • @GernaldVonWilfred
    @GernaldVonWilfred ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoooooo love this

  • @BNBarbarous
    @BNBarbarous ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bahrain and the Uk also signed one

  • @ryansmith8345
    @ryansmith8345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's not forget that an important element here is the resumè !
    For example : had the eastern Roman empire not been a hypocritical fickle ally more than several times in the past the Sassanid Persians would not have straight up disregarded the perpetual peace treaty as yet another Roman ruse to buy time while gaining power and invade...
    A similar case happened again and again throughout the history of diplomacy
    You get the idea

  • @sharkronical
    @sharkronical ปีที่แล้ว

    [X] Can not cancel non-aggression pact (This feature is disabled in the game option)

  • @ayaanahmed8148
    @ayaanahmed8148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a suggestion:-
    What if Prussia & Austria joined Crimean War? (possibly making the war go global)

  • @pepppers
    @pepppers ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I want to know what would happen if the entente cordial never was made

  • @xmaniac99
    @xmaniac99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed the treaty between Portugal and England.

  • @stevewinkleburg5300
    @stevewinkleburg5300 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey possible History. Another great video! Do you know if it is possible to find a full text of the Ewiger Landsfrieden anywhere? I would love to give it a read

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting

  • @Captain_Ender
    @Captain_Ender ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice

  • @jrdosreis6484
    @jrdosreis6484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the Visagoths became a Sassanid protectorate/client state ?

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The words "perpetual peace" just scream duplicity of the Persian Shahanshah Kosro.

  • @TurkRoacher
    @TurkRoacher ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the Helsinki accords those worked for a while until 🇷🇺

  • @PossessedPotatoBird
    @PossessedPotatoBird ปีที่แล้ว

    1:50 Assyria! Woo!

  • @dakefasso9124
    @dakefasso9124 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    7:56
    As an Ukrainian, I strongly ask you to not show Crimea as a part of Russia. Doing so you legitimate the military occupation.
    If your point was about "de-facto" control, why wouldn't you paint all of occupied Ukrainian territory under Russian military? I mean, it has the same status as Crimea:
    1. Captured by force
    2. A part of Russia according to their laws
    3. Had a fake referendum
    4. Isn't recognised by the rest of the world (except for freak countries, such as Syria or North Korea).
    Thank you♥️

    • @obamajoker7166
      @obamajoker7166 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what's a fric country?

    • @randomguy6152
      @randomguy6152 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@obamajoker7166 a country allied with anyone besides america

    • @nikolai7218
      @nikolai7218 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You’re never getting crimea back

    • @dakefasso9124
      @dakefasso9124 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nikolai7218, time will tell

    • @epiccrusadr8583
      @epiccrusadr8583 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah it right fully belongs to the golden horde 💪

  • @gamelandmaster3680
    @gamelandmaster3680 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, wasn’t the Battle of Kadesh the battle that had the largest chariots involved?

  • @darken2417
    @darken2417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that you don't count the French Republic as the same as the Kingdom of France.
    Far too many forget how different countries become under different regimes.

  • @obamajoker7166
    @obamajoker7166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you use the aramean flag for the hittites?

  • @rt_goblin_hours
    @rt_goblin_hours ปีที่แล้ว

    What about portugal and britain?

  • @ShashwatSEmbar
    @ShashwatSEmbar 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No offense, but, why didn't you include anything outside of the European sphere? I'm no historian, but it is quite surprising that there were no perpetual peace treaties between other powers in other continents. Still an excellent video!

  • @anne.andromeda
    @anne.andromeda ปีที่แล้ว

    There technically were wars opposing the partitions of Poland, notably, Kosciuszko Uprising, when Kosciuszko and his rebels rebeled against Russia and Prussia during second Partition. The conflict begun with Kosciuszko committing coup d'etate and declaring himself leader of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. As such, if recognising Kosciuszko's goverment as proper Polish Lithuanian government, it could be argued that the treaty was broken. Also, even if not accounting for that, all Partition were done by military crossing the borders and proclaiming the annexation. It was still invasion, Polish government simply didn't fight back. So, I would argued it still broke the treaty.

  • @JBcountryball
    @JBcountryball ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi

  • @valkorian3172
    @valkorian3172 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a idea from somewhere. What if William Afton was elected president of the United States?

  • @trillionbones89
    @trillionbones89 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Entente Cordiale does not really count in my book, but only because it became a perpetual alliance.

  • @goofygoober1816
    @goofygoober1816 หลายเดือนก่อน

    didnt the treaty that ended the War of 1812 say that USA and Britain would have eternal friendship? they havent fought since

  • @ilect1690
    @ilect1690 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought maurice and khosrow II signed a perpetual peace that ended in 602 during the byzantine sassanian war that destroyed both empires?

  • @BiggestCorvid
    @BiggestCorvid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Regarding Poland... I'd say the treaty worked. War happens when politics broke down and the war was avoided. Violence was done to the state and people of Poland, but the polish people still exist.

    • @BB-mi3vh
      @BB-mi3vh ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Only because they exist ist does not mean that it has worked.

    • @BB-mi3vh
      @BB-mi3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      It*

    • @Radonatorr
      @Radonatorr ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Giving the policy of cultural Russification imposed by the Russian Empire on Poland after the Partitions, which was a consious attmept of the Tsars at marginalizing, persecuting and ideally elliminating Polish language, culture, identity and the Catholic faith, the fact that Polish People still exist is not a result of a successful Treaty of Perpetual Peace. Rather it's the result of Polish ressistance and result of the failure of Russian anti-Polish policies enforced after they broke the Treaty (there actually was a Polish-Russian war in 1792).

    • @BiggestCorvid
      @BiggestCorvid ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Radonatorr yeah, it's impossible to know how things would have gone if Poland refused to go down without a fight. The partition of Poland is what happens when the leaders of the country have no interest in protecting their own people. Petty lords who would rather work for themselves. The same sort of things we see today. Leaders need to be accountable

    • @Radonatorr
      @Radonatorr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BiggestCorvid That's quite simplistic point of view. The corruption among the szlachta nobility, breakdown of the political system and long decline of the state were for sure main reasons for the fall of PLC. But the last king of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Stanisław II August, did actively try to improve the situation in the country in the aftermath of the 1st Partition. He worked hard to reform and strenghten the state. He was the main brain behind the Commission of National Education, the first such institution in the world as well as the Constitution of the 3rd May which was the first constitution in Europe and second one in the world. There were quite a few notable leaders in the Polish political, cultural and military sectors that supported his attempts. And exactly the fact that there were people in Poland trying with success to make things better was a threat to Russia, Prussia and Austria which made them invade and conduct the remaining 2 Partitions. The official reason why Russians invaded Poland in 1792 was to abolish the new Polish constitution and political system. So paradoxically the reason for Poland's death was Poland's attempts to reform and save itself.

  • @zaritheseallover907
    @zaritheseallover907 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to learn more about these mysterious sea-raiders

  • @Robert_L_Peters
    @Robert_L_Peters ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @DarthJoJoSage47
    @DarthJoJoSage47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yo this is absolutely silly but what if Napoleon was American, prussian, british or Russian either one really it would be interesting to see how his approach to war would be with these different circumstances

  • @justinsui4201
    @justinsui4201 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn, so sign ab eternal peace deal with France, it has a really high success rate

  • @angrymanwithsillymoustasche
    @angrymanwithsillymoustasche ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Islamic Renaissance/ golden age continued??

  • @IronicR
    @IronicR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:52 why don’t you do this anymore?💀💀

  • @MakriaMicronation
    @MakriaMicronation ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congress of Vienna?????

  • @josecarlo13OH
    @josecarlo13OH ปีที่แล้ว

    What if queen Victoria was alive in ww1? Would she had prevented WW1?

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Humanity: Okay, with this we shall have peace.
    Also Humanity: Let’s throw down

  • @samuelpaquette4974
    @samuelpaquette4974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scotland and England did go to war even after the two kingdoms had been dynastically united by the Stuarts, during the English civil war.

  • @Randomvietnamdude
    @Randomvietnamdude ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea: What if by some miracle, the Byzantine under Heraclius manage to beat back the Muslim invasion ?

  • @dengronebaronen5260
    @dengronebaronen5260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Sweden won the great northern War.

  • @chnb517
    @chnb517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isnt every peace treaty a perpetual peace treaty? If it had a deadline, we'd a call it a truce or a ceasefire

  • @HissPhunnyCat
    @HissPhunnyCat ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what if the greek plan worked

  • @marym7104
    @marym7104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Within 13,600 views!

  • @debater452
    @debater452 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Elagabalus was able to convert the whole Roman empire to his cult

  • @grassnothing1631
    @grassnothing1631 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A

  • @ibro8855
    @ibro8855 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a treaty of perpetual peace between Henry VIII and Francis I of France that failed.

  • @marym7104
    @marym7104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Within 9 hours!

  • @chnb517
    @chnb517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:21
    Sovereign Kosovo
    Turkish north cyprus
    Russian Crimea
    At least we cant see Israel / Palestine lol

  • @amund8821
    @amund8821 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does NATO count?

  • @GreekCountryball0
    @GreekCountryball0 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Byzantium won against the ottomans and/or seljuks

  • @The8Ronin
    @The8Ronin ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey just fyi its switZerland

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC ปีที่แล้ว

    No Ottoman Polish?

  • @IgnitedZX
    @IgnitedZX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @Cincinnatiball
    @Cincinnatiball ปีที่แล้ว

    United States - United Kingdom (You missed it)

  • @stanislawpolitowicz6212
    @stanislawpolitowicz6212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ummm... I hate to spoil your enthusiasm about the russo-polish treaty but what about the polish-russian war of 1792?

  • @nateghast6456
    @nateghast6456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, but how do I build my modern right wing world view around these selective events?

    • @Vitorruy1
      @Vitorruy1 ปีที่แล้ว

      no cultural war points to be earned here sadly :(

  • @iamtheguardsman9942
    @iamtheguardsman9942 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the Von Habsburgs were Protestant?

  • @barbara1126
    @barbara1126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Possible History
    How will you think the vietnam war would have play out it the U.S was communists?
    would the U.S still join the war but helping north vietnam instead?
    if so will the war last just 1 year or will it lasted 10 year like in our timeline?
    would The British and the French support south vietnam in this scenario and possibly even send they troop to south vietnam?