When i test road my S5 it had Ultegra DI2 there where no wires i don't understand the controller mounted there. They must not have had the one that goes inside the end of the Handle bars.
I remember years back, bikes had a minimal space requirement between seat tube and rear wheel. This bike literally has no gap between seat tube and rear wheel also front wheel and down tube.
Looks great. Just have to avoid letting the handlebars swing around due to internal design. A small front hbar impact will make it swing around and destroy the frame.
Depends on what you consider a mid-life crisis car....since you're looking at the absolute top end of the bike range - you'd have to also look at the top end on the car range....Bugatti Divo has a list price of close to $6M. I think the ratio is still good. Besides you can still get a midlife crisis bike for under $10K if you want to shop around a bit.
If it was made in Canada, USA or Europe i could swallow the price, but when it is made in the same chinese factory as every other bike, it is a bit rich. Plus their build quality has not got a good reputation.
2 points: the cockpit isn't really integral, it's modular, you can change angles and lengths etc. Also the stem does go up, but that's because there's no steerer sticking out of the head tube, if there was then it would look more normal. This bike is LOW on the front end without any spacers. I had the 2019 model and sold it on, I wasn't really happy with the brand and the quality. My seatpost slipped and popped all the time. The bike looks great but I had a few more niggles of things that just weren't very good with it. I wasn't as impressed. It was super fast though!
Yep, welcome to cervelos poor quality and slipping posts. Had two cervelos, very disappointed considering they price is premium, and they are made in the same factory in china as many other brands which are much cheaper.
1:15 no cables anywhere. me: sees loads of cables coming out of the DI2 controller box. 1:28 disc brakes are more and more popular in the pro peloton pro peloton: we ride what we are given, and if we have a choice like Ineos and Jumbo, we obviously ride rim brakes. 6:08: watch your back. That bike is at least 1kg above the UCI weight limit, you know, that limit we already reached back in 2004 for pro bikes with the 'legalize my Cannondale' advert. Last: check wat Luescher Technik has to say about the S5 and the design failure of the steering tube: th-cam.com/video/yajCXeNTbqk/w-d-xo.html
Tom, could you incorporate your ranking system to these Bike Reviews like you were doing with the random bikes from IG? I think that would add an expected diagnosis for what and where each bike stands overall and maybe have a Tier system for the top bike and others rank against one another, to include price point. Thx for sharing.
Wondering who, beside top athletes that don’t actually have to shell out the 17k-18k dollars, can justify the cost of a bike like this? In my mind, the market has to be really tiny with a few people buying this bike, using it for a few hours, then locking it in an armoured glass case to keep it in pristine conditions.
Why is there a junction box sitting out front?? Is that so you can get the extra shifters hooked up? If yes, the answer is not an extra junction box to get you your extra port, rather the Y junction and a f2f junction. If the answer is no, well then I’m not sure what is going on 😂
Y junction goes through the v stem and is connected to the RD, FD and battery by the female-to-female junction and the cabling. Left side goes to the left shifter and connects to the first port; second port goes to the extra shifter. Right side goes to first port of the right shifter; second port connects to the first port of the A junction; second port of the A junction connects to your extra shifter. This is my setup, with the extra item that my wireless unit is installed in the left handlebar and chained between the left shifter and the extra left shifter. Best you draw these things out in advance to get the layouts correct.
I love the Helium. I’ve put 20k km on mine and I’ve only had to replace tires, brakes, a few KMC chains and a few cassettes. I also bought the Ridley X-Night XC bike and a decent hardtail MTB to ride with the kids, and all three bikes, with Dura-Ace on the Helium and carbon Record on the XC bike were less than this Cervelo.
Yes correct, and i know of one major flaw, the headset design. The designers must of had a hard night out on the town the day before they designed that thing. It has a small internal stop and if anybody knows anything about carbon, point pressure is a major no no. If you your headset fails, you face plant the tarmac. I wouldn't ride this bike if you paid me, if you drop it or the handlebars are turned hard, you could create an incipient fault, then you could have a failure just riding along. For this money you can buy a Bastion bike made here in Australia, and these things are awesome bikes.
Is it competitive against a triathlon bike? This is a race bike with a really aerodynamic position. You can ride 12 hours without any back problem.That looks much more criterium racing bike. Try to have a P3X cervelo to compare with a race bike,
Wait....17,000 and they can’t provide a Di2 bar end junction! LOL. So much for the great “wind tunnel” plan when you put a junction box right in the middle of the stem cutout. Wonder what other corners they had to cut to get the price to an affordable $17,000. 😂😂😂
Please please don't by this bike, had two cervelos and the finish is poor, they now come in matte to hide the imperfections. The cabling is poor routing so it is a must to have electric + it is heavy. The S5 handle bar has a major flaw, it has an internal stop because of the pin design in the head set. This stop inside the head set impacts the carbon in a small area, if you crash, or turn the handlebars hard or say it falls over it can delaminate the carbon internally creating an incipient fault, which could lead to catastrophic failure just riding along. Plus this bike is stupid expensive for the Dura or Red. And it is made in china. Even the ultegra is 11k aussie . Nope! If you think i am just hating on Cervelo, then check out luescher technik, he is a carbon expert, and has a vid about the handlebar stop. cheers.
How can anyone making under $200k justify riding a bike that costs this much. Just listen to NorCal cycling, an aero frame and wheels are like the least important things in being fast.
When the guy from Luescher said, "you're not even turning it that far"....the rest of his comments lost some credibility. You're turning it past 45 degrees before there is impact. Nobody under any normal riding circumstances is turning the bars that far. Is it a flaw that your frame could get seriously damaged in a fairly significant crash? It appears like Cervelo was trying to enclose the cables in a way that would stay aero while turning....As time goes on and more of these are out on the roads - let's hear what the incidence of this type of failure is before we're blasting it as a major design flaw. Remember that the bikes at the highest end of the range are designed primarily for pro riders who don't pay for their bikes. And if a frame breaks, it gets replaced.
@@chrisgilligan4968 was actually worse than that. The issue was, any even small incident in the bike could cause an internal impact, even the bike falling over on a soft surface such as grass. Its hard to determine the likelihood, but seems more likely then not over a period of ownership. . The leverage and inertia of the fork, wheel, bar/stem cockpit and the moment of impact against a small internal area, is asking for trouble, and worse of all, any damage would be from inside and very difficult to spot. Also, professional kit is not designed to be fragile (DuraAce for example is pretty solid generally), so i dont see this as an excuse. Its such a pity, as i absolutely love the look of this bike, but this really shocked me, and would be such a liability to own, and even worse to buy second hand IMHO. Cheers
I read somewhere that Cervelo re-enforced that area where the stopper hits in the 2020 model. Also if you really are concerned you can wrap that part in electrical & bar tape to add some extra padding.
Chris Gilligan he even gave the example of stationary standing, which pretty much Every cyclist does. His concern is real and based on the simple facts of cycling
@@markblanch4178 The simple facts of cycling. Are you talking about doing a brake stand? I've been on a fair number of group rides, and also have ridden quite a lot on my own. Nobody I've ever been with, or have I felt the need to do a brake stand at any point in any of my riding....sure it's a flaw - but for most riders I don't see this as being a significant issue.
Dear #CyclingTom, Basically all super fast aerodynamic bikes have hit the SOUND BARRIER, just like super fast airplanes back in 1947. It wasn't until they discovered how to break the sound barrier that suddenly they were able to reach speeds of well over three times over the speed of sound by the late 50s. The same thing is happening with the modern bike.. They need to discover rotational wheel balance, so when its combined with Aerodynamics... BINGO! Suddenly the new modern bike will be able to go faster, safer, and handle like its on rails going 70mph plus.. Yes, 70 plus.
For $17K you would think this bike would incorporate a very basic technology called wheel balance... I am going to make one thing clear, "FROM THIS DAY ON" (7/21/2020), if any so-called super, new generation bike does not have a "Wheel Balance System", it's just all hype! Because just like your car or motorcycle at high speed if the wheels are not rotationally balanced it can not even go 40 mph or 80 klm before it starts to shake and fall apart. Well, I got news for everyone in the cycling world... The same thing goes for hyper 2021 bikes traveling over 40 mph or 80 klm, if the wheels are not rotationally balanced their performance in speed and handing is drastically, and negatively affected. But of course, the Bicycle Industry refuses to incorporate a wheel balance system, because it adds costs, and they do not understand it. Meanwhile, all they do is give you these great Aerodynamic figures because that is all they understand and know... So yes this hype on this new bike is a JOKE.
Well actually i will let you in on a BIG secret everyone. If a frame is UCI compliant, it then can't be that aero. In the 90s the UCI limited the frame design outlawing bikes like the LOTUS and RMIT superbike, one piece designs, they were very aero bikes, they also limited postions like the superman and the praying mantis. So yep, the UCI has intentionally limited the way frames are made to limit aero advantages. So any aero bike UCI compliant is not really that aero by design.
The bike is flat out dangerous, if you create a delamination in the headset it could fail, face planting the tamac is not a nice feeling. Been there done that.
It better last longer than a motorcycle or the rest of my life being the fact it's a bike but nothing lasts forever lol! Getting hit by a car a motorcycle is damaged with a car a bike is completely destroyed
Nice bike. 17k is an insane amount of money though. I’d like a review of the new Trek Emonda.
Not when cycling is your passion it no limits
@@citicyclekidd858 a real cyclist knows that amount of money is bs and you can do the same speed with a much cheaper bike at 3-5k
No airflow with that Di2 controller box dangling in front ;-)
Looks very cheap and poorly done
I think it's just a gimmick anyway.
When i test road my S5 it had Ultegra DI2 there where no wires i don't understand the controller mounted there. They must not have had the one that goes inside the end of the Handle bars.
reynolds296hr I think it is for the extra shifters. I just dropped a comment about that. No need to use a junction box.
@@nicholasdargus401 I'm pretty sure you need a junction box no matter what shifting setup you have.
Sweet review, any chance of a Cannondale SystemSix review?! Be great to hear your thoughts!
Ohh okay: having just left a comment on your 2017 review of the R3 i'm glad to see you're still enjoying Cervelo.
I remember years back, bikes had a minimal space requirement between seat tube and rear wheel. This bike literally has no gap between seat tube and rear wheel also front wheel and down tube.
It's great hey 👍🙂
No hub sound check?
Dude that the most beautiful bike ave seen in a while
Just bought the brand new Cervelo Caledonia 5 w/Ultegra Di2. Can’t wait to do some century rides with it.
Looks great. Just have to avoid letting the handlebars swing around due to internal design. A small front hbar impact will make it swing around and destroy the frame.
Yep! True!
A friend once said to me, “You can buy 10 midlife crisis bikes for the price of one midlife crisis car.” At $17000, I not sure that’s true anymore.
Depends on what you consider a mid-life crisis car....since you're looking at the absolute top end of the bike range - you'd have to also look at the top end on the car range....Bugatti Divo has a list price of close to $6M. I think the ratio is still good. Besides you can still get a midlife crisis bike for under $10K if you want to shop around a bit.
If it was made in Canada, USA or Europe i could swallow the price, but when it is made in the same chinese factory as every other bike, it is a bit rich. Plus their build quality has not got a good reputation.
Not sure where the pricing came from. It's 7,000 base on their website. 8,500 with the force eTap AXS.
what are those disc rotors?
are those good in braking performance even in shimano disc calipers?
Could you review the s-works venge?
Still no freehub sound check. Ive been waiting for it for so long
Nice vid Tom. That bike looks sick
Is that the one that the fork has the potential to destroy the head tube if the bars are turned too sharply?? 🙃
yes the worst design in a bike frame
Yep!
$17K FOR A BIKE?!!!! This got a brother going insane, this has to be you guys thing!!
My Carbon Hybrid is about 5 lbs heavier than the Cervelo. I could save $17 000 by losing 5+ lbs!
2 points: the cockpit isn't really integral, it's modular, you can change angles and lengths etc. Also the stem does go up, but that's because there's no steerer sticking out of the head tube, if there was then it would look more normal. This bike is LOW on the front end without any spacers. I had the 2019 model and sold it on, I wasn't really happy with the brand and the quality. My seatpost slipped and popped all the time. The bike looks great but I had a few more niggles of things that just weren't very good with it. I wasn't as impressed. It was super fast though!
Yep, welcome to cervelos poor quality and slipping posts. Had two cervelos, very disappointed considering they price is premium, and they are made in the same factory in china as many other brands which are much cheaper.
Rate it...I'd love one!! Bit on the exy side though. Another good installment in the bike review series 🤟🤟
Why didn’t they change the discs on the wheels in to Shimano Dura-Ace discs?
1:15 no cables anywhere.
me: sees loads of cables coming out of the DI2 controller box.
1:28 disc brakes are more and more popular in the pro peloton
pro peloton: we ride what we are given, and if we have a choice like Ineos and Jumbo, we obviously ride rim brakes.
6:08: watch your back. That bike is at least 1kg above the UCI weight limit, you know, that limit we already reached back in 2004 for pro bikes with the 'legalize my Cannondale' advert.
Last: check wat Luescher Technik has to say about the S5 and the design failure of the steering tube: th-cam.com/video/yajCXeNTbqk/w-d-xo.html
Une présentation du Orbea orca aero m12sr team dans une prochaine vidéo 📹 📹 📹 📹
How tall are you ? And what size is this one 58?
Tom, could you incorporate your ranking system to these Bike Reviews like you were doing with the random bikes from IG? I think that would add an expected diagnosis for what and where each bike stands overall and maybe have a Tier system for the top bike and others rank against one another, to include price point. Thx for sharing.
Wondering who, beside top athletes that don’t actually have to shell out the 17k-18k dollars, can justify the cost of a bike like this? In my mind, the market has to be really tiny with a few people buying this bike, using it for a few hours, then locking it in an armoured glass case to keep it in pristine conditions.
Why is there a junction box sitting out front?? Is that so you can get the extra shifters hooked up? If yes, the answer is not an extra junction box to get you your extra port, rather the Y junction and a f2f junction. If the answer is no, well then I’m not sure what is going on 😂
Y junction goes through the v stem and is connected to the RD, FD and battery by the female-to-female junction and the cabling. Left side goes to the left shifter and connects to the first port; second port goes to the extra shifter. Right side goes to first port of the right shifter; second port connects to the first port of the A junction; second port of the A junction connects to your extra shifter. This is my setup, with the extra item that my wireless unit is installed in the left handlebar and chained between the left shifter and the extra left shifter. Best you draw these things out in advance to get the layouts correct.
Compared to the old model s5 what’s the difference in ride quality ??
I have a 2019 S5 love it. The stem is not positive it is the same height as a stem that is traditionally attached.
i just bought a 2012 cervelo s 5 and love it :D
Try and review the Argon 18 gallium pro
You should do a vid on bike sizing and picking the right bike for your height and build.
Could u review the canyon aeroad or a venge
How many kgs weight shop
Can u review canyon speed max or trek speed concept pls🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Awesome Video💪🏽
Review the Sava Phantom 3.0 or any Sava branded road bike.
pinarello F12 disc please
The most expensive road bike is actually the Pinarello F12
The Cervelo s5 2020 actually retails for $12,000 maxed out.
f12 ftw. love that it's one of the few brands that still believe in Rim
Nope, not at my local bike shop, that is only the ultegra model at 12k AUD.
Could you review a Ridley bike, for example the Helium or Fenix SL disc
I love the Helium. I’ve put 20k km on mine and I’ve only had to replace tires, brakes, a few KMC chains and a few cassettes. I also bought the Ridley X-Night XC bike and a decent hardtail MTB to ride with the kids, and all three bikes, with Dura-Ace on the Helium and carbon Record on the XC bike were less than this Cervelo.
What are those wheels ? 17k would expect, Lightweight wheels and SRM power meter.
Venge and Madone look better
Canyon Ultimate/Aeroad, and maybe the more affordable versions with Ultegra groupsets for example!
Nice bike but 17k is nuts. Could you review the felt fr advanced with 105?
Hey bro. Could you review a Bianchi Aria 2019 ultegra rim brake bike. Would e nice to see some medium range bikes. Awesome Video!
do i need a tuxedo to ride one?:)
Please do a review on the Simplon pride
Why doesn’t this guy have more subscribers!!!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
Nice bike, im thinking between bmc slr 01. 01 and Cervlo s5
0:16 Sprint shifters🤔
We know
I'd like a review of the new trek emonda sl6 pro...
Not paying 17K for a bike with the issue in the HT being gutted constantly.
There are so many problems with this bike from the bottom bracket to the turning and for 17000 ? What fool will buy one
Yes correct, and i know of one major flaw, the headset design. The designers must of had a hard night out on the town the day before they designed that thing. It has a small internal stop and if anybody knows anything about carbon, point pressure is a major no no. If you your headset fails, you face plant the tarmac. I wouldn't ride this bike if you paid me, if you drop it or the handlebars are turned hard, you could create an incipient fault, then you could have a failure just riding along. For this money you can buy a Bastion bike made here in Australia, and these things are awesome bikes.
Is it competitive against a triathlon bike? This is a race bike with a really aerodynamic position. You can ride 12 hours without any back problem.That looks much more criterium racing bike. Try to have a P3X cervelo to compare with a race bike,
Wait....17,000 and they can’t provide a Di2 bar end junction! LOL. So much for the great “wind tunnel” plan when you put a junction box right in the middle of the stem cutout. Wonder what other corners they had to cut to get the price to an affordable $17,000. 😂😂😂
Can you review a canyon aeroad?
scott addict 10 2020 rim brake model. Tnx men.
The reason they use a positive angle stem is so the head tube can be shorter and the top tube can be at a more flat angle.
For that price it should be running 12 speed Campagnolo full eps carbon sigh
Please, review some Polygon Roadbike ... Cheap but quite good 😅
Looks goofy how much does it weigh
Hambini loves Cervelo so much he bought one
Yeah and is in loVe with open bikes (owners use to work for Cervelo and designed the original S5). Hee hee
Gcn " you can't do sprint shifters on disc brake di2 "
Nah you just gotta get some adaptor or something
@@technicko4143 and exposed cables.
“Brand new”? Not so sure - they just came out with the new 2021 S5 model...
Nice bike
Do the new Wilier's!
I have the cervelo s5 2014
Please please don't by this bike, had two cervelos and the finish is poor, they now come in matte to hide the imperfections. The cabling is poor routing so it is a must to have electric + it is heavy.
The S5 handle bar has a major flaw, it has an internal stop because of the pin design in the head set. This stop inside the head set impacts the carbon in a small area, if you crash, or turn the handlebars hard or say it falls over it can delaminate the carbon internally creating an incipient fault, which could lead to catastrophic failure just riding along. Plus this bike is stupid expensive for the Dura or Red. And it is made in china. Even the ultegra is 11k aussie . Nope!
If you think i am just hating on Cervelo, then check out luescher technik, he is a carbon expert, and has a vid about the handlebar stop. cheers.
No wires at all besides the wires right at the front of the bike
I bet Hambini would completely agree with the quality of this bike😂
Hee hee yeah, as he is currently in legal dispute with the previous owners.
How can anyone making under $200k justify riding a bike that costs this much. Just listen to NorCal cycling, an aero frame and wheels are like the least important things in being fast.
17 k for a bike 🚴 ????
DO NOT GO ANYWHERE NEAR THIS FRAME!!!! their is a massive design flaw in it. watch LUESCHER TEKNIC take apart and review this frame it is a disgrace
When the guy from Luescher said, "you're not even turning it that far"....the rest of his comments lost some credibility. You're turning it past 45 degrees before there is impact. Nobody under any normal riding circumstances is turning the bars that far. Is it a flaw that your frame could get seriously damaged in a fairly significant crash? It appears like Cervelo was trying to enclose the cables in a way that would stay aero while turning....As time goes on and more of these are out on the roads - let's hear what the incidence of this type of failure is before we're blasting it as a major design flaw. Remember that the bikes at the highest end of the range are designed primarily for pro riders who don't pay for their bikes. And if a frame breaks, it gets replaced.
@@chrisgilligan4968 was actually worse than that. The issue was, any even small incident in the bike could cause an internal impact, even the bike falling over on a soft surface such as grass. Its hard to determine the likelihood, but seems more likely then not over a period of ownership. . The leverage and inertia of the fork, wheel, bar/stem cockpit and the moment of impact against a small internal area, is asking for trouble, and worse of all, any damage would be from inside and very difficult to spot. Also, professional kit is not designed to be fragile (DuraAce for example is pretty solid generally), so i dont see this as an excuse. Its such a pity, as i absolutely love the look of this bike, but this really shocked me, and would be such a liability to own, and even worse to buy second hand IMHO. Cheers
I read somewhere that Cervelo re-enforced that area where the stopper hits in the 2020 model. Also if you really are concerned you can wrap that part in electrical & bar tape to add some extra padding.
Chris Gilligan he even gave the example of stationary standing, which pretty much Every cyclist does.
His concern is real and based on the simple facts of cycling
@@markblanch4178 The simple facts of cycling. Are you talking about doing a brake stand? I've been on a fair number of group rides, and also have ridden quite a lot on my own. Nobody I've ever been with, or have I felt the need to do a brake stand at any point in any of my riding....sure it's a flaw - but for most riders I don't see this as being a significant issue.
Dear #CyclingTom, Basically all super fast aerodynamic bikes have hit the SOUND BARRIER, just like super fast airplanes back in 1947. It wasn't until they discovered how to break the sound barrier that suddenly they were able to reach speeds of well over three times over the speed of sound by the late 50s. The same thing is happening with the modern bike.. They need to discover rotational wheel balance, so when its combined with Aerodynamics... BINGO! Suddenly the new modern bike will be able to go faster, safer, and handle like its on rails going 70mph plus.. Yes, 70 plus.
For $17K you would think this bike would incorporate a very basic technology called wheel balance... I am going to make one thing clear, "FROM THIS DAY ON" (7/21/2020), if any so-called super, new generation bike does not have a "Wheel Balance System", it's just all hype! Because just like your car or motorcycle at high speed if the wheels are not rotationally balanced it can not even go 40 mph or 80 klm before it starts to shake and fall apart. Well, I got news for everyone in the cycling world... The same thing goes for hyper 2021 bikes traveling over 40 mph or 80 klm, if the wheels are not rotationally balanced their performance in speed and handing is drastically, and negatively affected. But of course, the Bicycle Industry refuses to incorporate a wheel balance system, because it adds costs, and they do not understand it. Meanwhile, all they do is give you these great Aerodynamic figures because that is all they understand and know... So yes this hype on this new bike is a JOKE.
Well actually i will let you in on a BIG secret everyone. If a frame is UCI compliant, it then can't be that aero. In the 90s the UCI limited the frame design outlawing bikes like the LOTUS and RMIT superbike, one piece designs, they were very aero bikes, they also limited postions like the superman and the praying mantis. So yep, the UCI has intentionally limited the way frames are made to limit aero advantages. So any aero bike UCI compliant is not really that aero by design.
I am getting anxiety from him holding a 17k bike with one hand on the back wheel 👀
Hello Hambini fans!
Stellar Bike!....but those sprint shifter cables look like ass.
Yumbo Visma - the right decision
Unless it's approved by Hambini then it's good.
$17000 for a bike with appearance design flaw. Cervelo’s products are going down hills.
Amazing bike
only a matter of time before the put BMX handlebars on a roadbike and call it "from the future"
Yeah, Future...sure. Find “Cervelo design fail” video.
The bike is flat out dangerous, if you create a delamination in the headset it could fail, face planting the tamac is not a nice feeling. Been there done that.
Integrated parts = you’ll stick with our bikes and parts or your bike ends up redundant pretty quick. Wasteful. Awful.
pinarello dogma f12
17k that's crazy! does the bike help me win races?
NO....
Great looking bike! But, costs more than many motorcycles!! 😂
It better last longer than a motorcycle or the rest of my life being the fact it's a bike but nothing lasts forever lol! Getting hit by a car a motorcycle is damaged with a car a bike is completely destroyed
i have 18k bad things to say about this bike:)
I think 10k is my max Budget for a road bike. 17k I rather TOP up to buy a Superbike like KTM or BMW 😂😂😂
At $10k you still have to have your head checked
its a shame it has the worse design flaw of any bike
Let me save you 6.48 minutes of your lives ... the answer is 'no'!
$17,000 for a bike ... get real!!
Bloody disc brakes.
Nice bike but still not as good looking as a pinarello dogma.
I can buy a good car from that money
Engineering sucks on Cervélo and at the price? You can get a Ducati. Sorry, no Chinese bike is worth that much.
Expensive engineering peace of junk...i'm serious, the rotation of fork could and will destroy the frame overtime.
@Kenny N ... 'piece of junk'. smh :-(
Not my future. 😛🤑
That thing is truly hideous . That triangle cockpit is awful
First
So what did you win
So what did you win
One of the ugliest bikes.