A lot of people have asked what game I'm playing in the Winter Soldier section, despite the fact that I credited it at the start of the Winter Soldier section. The game is called Earth Defense Force Iron Rain. Pretty fun game, especially if you have a second person to play with. Might do a follow up video discussing Widow and WS's gameplay in this game. I think Widow feels really bad to play as and WS is pretty fun, despite being a lazy composite of other characters moves.
I’ve gotta try that! I’ve got Four and Five, a lot of the fanbase has kinda dismissed it as inferior so I’ve been waiting for a price drop but I dunno even a meh EDF game is still pretty good in my book.
Just answer it lmao, maybe they just didn't see it. You already sound so passive aggressive in the video, and you're doing the same in this pinned comment. Maybe it's just your inherent attitude, just be nice, not all your viewers are 💯 focused on the video LOL, you're a TH-camr it's the least you can do. It makes you look like a man child.
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all the dev's of this game needed to do was to make one civilian outfit for each character just for the people who like that style. But instead, there are loads of civilian outfits for each character
Literally as a civilian outfit lover this was way to much for me just give us three different civilians looks and then have different color options attached to the outfit lol like the recolors don’t need they’re own slots lol
About Winter Soldier's suit The MCU (masked) version is the best. The classic "Bucky" suit is a great suit. The Captain America shield thing - Maybe the Shield that Captain America has now has a different material than the on in the motion comic cut scene for Bucky? It still looked the same but had a different material than the one he has in the present day. Maybe present day Bucky made that classic "Bucky" suit and added the shield? The "FURLOUGH" suit - This might be a reference to the comic cover of Black Widow tattooing Bucky's arm as a comic cover. It's OK 4/10. The "WHITE WOLF" suit - It does look like something that the Winter Soldier would wear in this game's Wakanda . 8/10. I actually like the "Earth's protector" outfit. It looks like Bucky went to space and stayed there, he would have made that suit. It is a COMIC BOOK world so I don't see the retro look as a bad thing. I HATE the "MAJOR BUCKY" suit. It just looks bland. If you want to look like a astronaut, there you go. But this is a superhero game. I want to look like the Winter Soldier. The "Who the Hell is Bucky?" suit - It's different and new and nothing that I have seen before. Not something that I would want Bucky to wear. It's mid. 5/10 I agree with everything you said for Black Widow. I don't care so much about here, so.... yeah.
The main reason I like casual outfits for black widow is purely for playing as other characters and seeing a normal lady with a gun run around. It’s very entertaining.
I really only wear the casual outfits when I want something different. 13:34 this reminds me of that black widow fortnite cosplay skin. Also I hate black widow default hair. It’s rooted in laziness as it’s been reused from the pre launch style which makes it look awkward. They did a better version of it with the avengers 2012 skin with it being shorter. Imo when it comes to the catsuits the main difference for widow is usually her hairstyle and if she has silver or gold gadgets.
For the MCU winter soldier suit I always thought that he had the glove on his metal hand to add extra grip where his normal hand wouldn’t need it because it’s flesh.
@@feetyeet8538 well that's just inconvenient, imagine being born before Jesus existed, or like everyone living in China for for the past 2000 years, or on a remote mountain, they were never even given a chance. That a messed up interperation of God you got there, insulting to the supposed creator of everything's intelligence or kindness really, you must live in constant pain if you believe that, unless you yourself are that cruel and irrational, then it all makes sense
Honestly it shouldn’t be that hard making an original costume that looks metal as hell. Devs are just scared to embrace bold designs and it really shows.
Considering how Bucky feels like he missed the memo in the costume department, and has sooo many more suits than Janethor, I have to assume he was from MUCH earlier in development, possibly at that point people talk about where you couldn't double-up heroes.
I really love your Avengers costume videos. You really give these outfits a proper critique as they deserve, pointing out the true flaws of these outfits and where they could have improved.
In the case of Black Widow, I actually do like her casual costumes more since at least they're not yet another variant of black bodysuit. And I think the coat skin could've been cool if they had played it up as a Film Noir-inspired look. Give her a fedora, make the coat look more like a trench coat, change her hairstyle to something appropriate for the time period, and it could've been a fun themed costume for Widow.
When the dev's say "more realism" you do know were seeing a unfrozen super soldier, a Russian agent, a 100 year old god with a magic hammer, a giant gamma monster and a billionaire in a iron suit i think realism is kind out the window
Don’t forget a King with a Panther suit, a super soldier with a metal arm,human- mutate in a red and blue suit with web shooters, and an inhuman with Mr. Fantastic powers, then regular ass people with bow and arrows and swords, with a one-eyed dog beside them
I Like casual costumes, becasue: 1-i like to see what characters wear outside the line of duty, it adds characterization, 2-i come from media with more fashion-focused designs for outfits, so the hereos having drip streetwear instead of their superhero spandex is a nice transition for people like me, and 3-it's just hilarious to go and beat up hordes of enemies and superpowered villains dressed in a swimsuit. With all that said, this all depends on the costumes being well-design and interesting to use. Which this game doens't. I'm a big trench coat simp but even i can admit that widow white trenchcoat is low-effort. Like at least give her a hat for the carmen santiego look. I suppose this is the inevitable conclusion of a game striving for realism over personality like avengers: the Superheroes in casual outfits don't look like superheroes in casual outfits, thye look like average joes. (and the acutal hero costumes also look like average joes in cosplay)
11:51 normally im a casual costume hater, but i actually like this costume and its because there are details that show the clothes actually belong to the character lmao, like she has a black widow belt on, the zipper on her jacket is the symbol as well, it looks like clothes that she would actually own and wear, wish more casual outfits even attempted this. Also love your videos!! We need more people talking about costume/character design in game, as they often go over looked!
I wanted to weigh in and just say I do like the casual outfits. I find it really charming to see what heros look like when they are off the job. It shows that they aren't just heros, they are people, and that makes it easier to relate with them
I think THE most egregious thing about BW's costumes is the hair. Not only do most of the hairstyles not match their comic counterparts, which I guess isn't terrible, but the material for the hair is AWFUL. I noticed it with other characters like Thor too, but on BW it looks noticeably worse for some reason, probably the colors. Everything on the costumes tries to have this more realistic material to it, and I think for a lot of aspects they nail it like with plastic or metal, but the hair looks like something from a PS3 game. It looks super matte and barely lit, and there's little to no contrast in the color of it. For black hair it's less noticeable, but on a character like BW with blonde and "red" hair, it's VERY noticeable and looks really bad. But yeah, she needed the more red hair. It just looks brown in this game, and I mean come on, people in real life can have pretty red hair, and besides, hair dye exists. Even the MCU gave BW properly red hair in Phase 1. Though, looking at the AoU suit, maybe it's best CD didn't give us red haired BW...
0:54 When I first saw your visual aid, it seemed sexist - all of your likes are men, there are two men and three women you don't care for, and you hate Kate Bishop. But then I watched your video on the Hawkeye costumes, and I realized Crystal Dynamics did Kate dirty.
Seeing your videos makes me wish we had a wiki specifically for superhero costumes. It could cover everything from appeareances in comics and other media, design analysis, IRL and canon lore, concept art, etc. Also it's kinda sad that the MCU tie-in games have better comic costumes. Speaking of which, that could be a good video, though it sucks that the games are mostly exclusive to PS3 and Xbox360 (the ones with ports to other systems are seriously downgraded). I would like to throw in some other games that I think would make for some good analysis: the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series, the Batman Arkham games, maybeeee Marvel: Future Fight?(sometimes it feels too much like an MCU advertisement, even more than Avengers). There's probably more obscure games I could recommend but idk. Great video as always! keep it up :)
its insane how they managed to mess up so badly on the movie suits. insomniac managed to translate the movie suits perfectly, surely it isnt too hard to double check if the seam lines are supposed to be black or grey?
In the MCU, Bucky uses his robo-arm for power, and his flesh hand for dexterity and precision. Having a glove would get in the way of that. Of course, you have to wonder what happens to all the fingerprints he leaves. Maybe they're burned off, or masked somehow.
As someone who ALSO doesn't care for Black Widow. I think the problem is that most people use phrases like "I don't care", "I'm not a fan" or "I don't like" in a negative connotation instead of a neutral one. Specially the later. So they just assume they are the same as saying "I hate".
Probably giving them too much credit but bucky's hair colour changing could be on purpose to show how he was locked away and only sent out on night missions for such a long time as his hair darkened and the after becoming a hero again and being out in the sun more slowly lightened his hair back to a more natural shade for him
I like the casual skins for Widow because they look like something a SHIELD agent would wear. The default turtleneck looks like something you'd see a character wearing in Bond or Mission: Impossible.
Black Widow has the Venom symbiote in a new run and the white parts of the venom suit are now red mixed with her widow symbol. Wish this game had been better we could've got that suit
What makes the causal clothes even worse is because generally everything else in this game screams lazily done and/or bland so seeing plainclothes costumes for superheroes doesn’t help.
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The whole "Fem Fatale wearing black leather and using pistols" is such a generic trope, that there are multiple characters like that even within Marvel Comics itself.
All costumes for each character are just recolored over four unique costumes designs…or not so unique . Sure they have at least one design on to itself but largely the are the same skins just different colors.
Love the vids can you please take a look at Fortnites Marvel and Dc skin designs. Id love to hear what you have to say I especially love their green goblin skin design
I could be thinking too much about it but the glove on Bucky's hand in the winter soldier outfit would I presume to allow for some sort of traction and an overall better grip on things while the normal hand doesn't need it because our hands already have quite a bit of traction so I would assume the metal arm has less traction so the glove helps with that
13:00 It's at this point that I realized why her proportions seemed off this whole time (admittedly, this was triggered by the ridiculous 90's proportions): Not only has any exaggerated femininity been removed from her (you'd think a femme-fatale character named Black Widow would have an hourglass figure and not 34-30-34 measurements), but they added this odd, pointless straps at the lover point of her rib-cage on many of her costumes. This makes her figure look very rectangular; not helped by her very flat stance.
I've always enjoyed heroes occasionally fighting in their regular clothes (key word, "occasionally"). It shows them getting caught off guard and if secret identities are a factor, then it adds a level of stakes where they have to be even more discreet. Which is why I really hate nanotech suits. It makes things way too easy and convenient. Suddenly being attacked? Press a button and the suit is there. Need to get somewhere fast? Suit's in your pocket. It takes out all form of stakes and clashes with the grounded nature of what the MCU was built on. It worked for Iron Man because it was his tech that he made that showed the evolution of his suits, always learning, always improving, always making solutions to problems he's faced in the field. But with Spider-man, when the nanotech is handed to him, it just becomes too easy and breaks is own rules (how does he have regular running shoes on underneath the Iron Spider boots? Because Nanotech). And now everyone has some for of nanotech to the point where it's just a cheap gimmick. Nanotech (and stuff similar to nanotech) can work for different characters, as long as it's not just a lazy shortcut for the characters to have all their gear on them at all times or to show off the actors faces every 5 seconds. For example, the Symbiote can shape shift into regular clothes (not just vanish underneath skin), it's unique and has the extra layer of having sentience that makes it stand out. Black Panther's nanotech suit tore through his clothes when he suited up which adds an extra crutch to it. Doctor Strange can magic his clothes to change in a uniquely styled way. This doesn't belong to just one character, but when it's applied to multiple in the same exact way, then it just becomes tacky
I like more casual skins sometimes because it's a kind of peak into what a more street level or vigilante form of the character could look like. I do think that this game overused this though because it doesn't work well for every character. And on top of that, the actual design of the suits still matters.
I think the glove in the metal hand is for grip not protection, the metal palms are problably slippery and hard, making them not very good to hold things with.
Dude I absolutely love this video series and I think it would be rly cool if you ranked the Batman skins in the Arkham series but if u want to stick with ranking crappy game skins like the avengers u could do Gotham knights witch sucked just like the avengers but has kinda cool skins
Imo, even though its bland, I actually like Widow's default tactical outfit. Looks like something an actual spy would wear. I always thought she should wear a black turtleneck like how a ton of spies do, with the red hourglass symbol on the stomach
This video got me thinking. A black Widow game could be very good. It could focus on splinter cell styled stealth gameplay or maybe more PS2 era Tomb Raider styled gameplay. Maybe blend those together for a game that goes from stealth levels to action levels. It should focus on the government side of the MCU and maybe outside of Nick and Clint it shouldn't have any other heroes in it. I don't know I just think it could be cool. Also a lot of the outfits in this game could be things she wears in each level.
ive always liked the casual costumes because I always feel like its a situation where they couldnt get suited up fast enough. so you end up getting the bugle boy costume or the american dream costume etc
I would’ve loved to have seen the Bucky cap costume in this game honestly. If they added Falcon down the line (lol) he could’ve also gotten a captain America suit and you could’ve had almost a full squad of unique caps haha
Why is Crystal Dynamics so stubborn about body proportions, yet change at the weirdest of times? Like, Dorito has pointed out how the body proportions in this game are severely underwhelming, but they change with very specific costumes that don't show up ever again? Why? If you decided to change it, why not just update all of the other costumes, since it doesn't look like it'll cause many issues with gameplay since you've included it anyway. Like, Black Widow looked really nice with the swimsuit but it never shows up again, same with that one Cap suit that updated his body proportions. Crystal Dynamics just confuses me, man.
As someone who likes casual costumes and battle-damaged cosmetics, I'd like to throw my opinion into the ring since it's something that keeps coming up in these videos. Firstly, I just like the variety. A wide range of outfits gives you incentive to switch between them more often and just unlock more of them. Supersuits are awesome and always will be, but if you don't have ANY non-supersuits or if every Supersuit is pristine, then I feel like you're missing out on the variety of having more unique models and outfits. Secondly is the roleplaying potential. Every costume tells a story, and in your mind's eye, a story of hastily thrown-together gear or the aftereffects of a brutal battle add something to the current fight or mission and can make the character feel more alive. Thirdly, they add a sense of relatability. Sure, superheroes as a medium are larger than life, but those heroes (especially in Marvel comics) are people, too, and get involved in events even when duty doesn't call. This ties back into point two, sure, but it adds to the fantasy for me: the idea that anyone can be a hero, regardless on if all of their supersuit is on right or if they've been beat up and need to get back up on their own two feet to save the day. Anyone can wear the mask, and no hero in this game is an Adonis who can handle everything thrown at them. All that said, I do kinda get why you give them low ratings in these videos, anyway. They don't add anything to your personal superhero fantasy, and that's fine! My superhero fantasy tends to have them in supersuits, anyway, so it's not even a fundamental disagreement. I just think, sometimes, something different helps draws you into the character more.
Good video, one thing I will say though is that I don't see why you feel the need to point out if you care about a character or not. Liking a character and liking their design are two separate things, and one is not necessarily relevant to the other
I like the domino mask if his out fit is lighter and not militaristic as normally is. About as militaristic as classic Nick Fury. Bur not if you want to make him dark and edgy.
🙋♂️here the fan of casual outfit, idk they re really neat and it s cool to see them outside of uniform, i liked the thor casual skins an iron man , i would ave love a tony stark in suit like civil war when he fight bucky
It's funny because my favorite Widow skin is the default Turtleneck one, mostly because it's similar to her normal costumes, but different enough. I hate pointless tactical outfits for super heroes unless they are in fact a Military/Tactical/Spy type street level character. Also as a fan of Archer you can't go wrong with the Tactilneck. What I find funniest is my favorite Bucky skin, is you most hated. The mask on that skin it's fucking terrible you are 100% right about that, but I love the stupid arm hose because it's a stupid comic thing. The rest of the outfit fits that tactical military thing Bucky has normally and it doesn't go overboard with the unnecessary color additions like his Iconic outfits. The Mask is horrible and they should, or should have done a version without the mask and arm hose. Look forward to you rightfully trashing on the Hawkeye skins and the eventual Guardians of the Galaxy one. I could not care less about Ms. Marvel in any and every form she exists in, but I'll watch that one too. After that you should do other comic videos games and their costumes too as these are definitely entertaining watches I look forward to.
Thank you for taking the time to explain why you like what you like. Most comments just say "I disagree" with no further elaboration. I always think it's interesting to see WHY people like/dislike things and agree/disagree with me. And I'm sure you'll like what's to come!
@@DoritoGOD2811If you are going to cover costumes from other superhero games, I would recommend the Marvel Future Revolution mobile game. It not only has better original costumes than the Avengers game, but also does a better job translating costumes from the comics. It even has a Black Widow costume from her debut appearance, with 8 different color options to boot!
The Major Bucky suit might be a reference to David Bowie's Major Tom? They both wear a white suit with an orange visor and then there's the name. I might be reaching, tho, since it's the only musical ref as far as I know.
honestly if winter soldier was ANYONE other than bucky that steve would have to go through bucky's death AND another of his friends being winter soldier - both movies and comics it would be better - hey steve bucky's alive cool huh?
A lot of people have asked what game I'm playing in the Winter Soldier section, despite the fact that I credited it at the start of the Winter Soldier section.
The game is called Earth Defense Force Iron Rain. Pretty fun game, especially if you have a second person to play with.
Might do a follow up video discussing Widow and WS's gameplay in this game. I think Widow feels really bad to play as and WS is pretty fun, despite being a lazy composite of other characters moves.
I’ve gotta try that! I’ve got Four and Five, a lot of the fanbase has kinda dismissed it as inferior so I’ve been waiting for a price drop but I dunno even a meh EDF game is still pretty good in my book.
Just answer it lmao, maybe they just didn't see it. You already sound so passive aggressive in the video, and you're doing the same in this pinned comment. Maybe it's just your inherent attitude, just be nice, not all your viewers are 💯 focused on the video LOL, you're a TH-camr it's the least you can do. It makes you look like a man child.
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Cool. I would love it if you did the same for all the other characters.
all the dev's of this game needed to do was to make one civilian outfit for each character just for the people who like that style. But instead, there are loads of civilian outfits for each character
@@Fiiwse5676 there's shaders?
Well… I mean she does do disguises a bit…
Literally as a civilian outfit lover this was way to much for me just give us three different civilians looks and then have different color options attached to the outfit lol like the recolors don’t need they’re own slots lol
i like tge more casual and civilian outfits and i one hundred percent agree. there aew WAY to many of those in this game.
well with both of them the choices are civilian outfit or black bodysuit/tactical gear
You blew my mind with the "glove on metal hands not the flesh hand" bit, never realized how silly it was
About Winter Soldier's suit
The MCU (masked) version is the best.
The classic "Bucky" suit is a great suit. The Captain America shield thing - Maybe the Shield that Captain America has now has a different material than the on in the motion comic cut scene for Bucky? It still looked the same but had a different material than the one he has in the present day. Maybe present day Bucky made that classic "Bucky" suit and added the shield?
The "FURLOUGH" suit - This might be a reference to the comic cover of Black Widow tattooing Bucky's arm as a comic cover. It's OK 4/10.
The "WHITE WOLF" suit - It does look like something that the Winter Soldier would wear in this game's Wakanda . 8/10.
I actually like the "Earth's protector" outfit. It looks like Bucky went to space and stayed there, he would have made that suit. It is a COMIC BOOK world so I don't see the retro look as a bad thing.
I HATE the "MAJOR BUCKY" suit. It just looks bland. If you want to look like a astronaut, there you go. But this is a superhero game. I want to look like the Winter Soldier.
The "Who the Hell is Bucky?" suit - It's different and new and nothing that I have seen before. Not something that I would want Bucky to wear. It's mid. 5/10
I agree with everything you said for Black Widow. I don't care so much about here, so.... yeah.
The main reason I like casual outfits for black widow is purely for playing as other characters and seeing a normal lady with a gun run around. It’s very entertaining.
I think the Hooded outfit is one of the only non MCU outfits I put on Widow.
100% agree with everything in this video
god the winter soldier in this looks like Alucard (hellsing)'s homosexual cousin
I really only wear the casual outfits when I want something different.
13:34 this reminds me of that black widow fortnite cosplay skin.
Also I hate black widow default hair. It’s rooted in laziness as it’s been reused from the pre launch style which makes it look awkward. They did a better version of it with the avengers 2012 skin with it being shorter. Imo when it comes to the catsuits the main difference for widow is usually her hairstyle and if she has silver or gold gadgets.
For the MCU winter soldier suit I always thought that he had the glove on his metal hand to add extra grip where his normal hand wouldn’t need it because it’s flesh.
That’s a good theory!
same
@@feetyeet8538sir this is a marvel video
@@feetyeet8538 well that's just inconvenient, imagine being born before Jesus existed, or like everyone living in China for for the past 2000 years, or on a remote mountain, they were never even given a chance. That a messed up interperation of God you got there, insulting to the supposed creator of everything's intelligence or kindness really, you must live in constant pain if you believe that, unless you yourself are that cruel and irrational, then it all makes sense
@@feetyeet8538lmao
Jesus Christ, even the colors are mostly faded on all of her outfits. Guess they were really obsessed with "reAliSm"
Realism ruins a lot of modern games in my opinion
@@Infinite_Repeat very true
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It’s like they’re allergic to anything that isn’t completely boring.
Its sad Winter Soldier had such bad skins, theres not a lot to go off for him, but if the dev team didn't cut corners they may have been better
His captain America version and his Howling Commandos versions should've made it
They could also give him his mcu white wolf appearance with the black and gold arm
Honestly it shouldn’t be that hard making an original costume that looks metal as hell. Devs are just scared to embrace bold designs and it really shows.
I would love to see you go over the costumes in Midnight Suns. I'm curious as to your thoughts on the designs on that game.
Thats an incredible Idea
I’d been thinking the same thing
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Yes this would be cool!
I forgot that game came out
Considering how Bucky feels like he missed the memo in the costume department, and has sooo many more suits than Janethor, I have to assume he was from MUCH earlier in development, possibly at that point people talk about where you couldn't double-up heroes.
I really love your Avengers costume videos. You really give these outfits a proper critique as they deserve, pointing out the true flaws of these outfits and where they could have improved.
In the case of Black Widow, I actually do like her casual costumes more since at least they're not yet another variant of black bodysuit.
And I think the coat skin could've been cool if they had played it up as a Film Noir-inspired look. Give her a fedora, make the coat look more like a trench coat, change her hairstyle to something appropriate for the time period, and it could've been a fun themed costume for Widow.
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When the dev's say "more realism" you do know were seeing a unfrozen super soldier, a Russian agent, a 100 year old god with a magic hammer, a giant gamma monster and a billionaire in a iron suit i think realism is kind out the window
Thor is much much older than 100 btw but yeah definitely
Don’t forget a King with a Panther suit, a super soldier with a metal arm,human- mutate in a red and blue suit with web shooters, and an inhuman with Mr. Fantastic powers, then regular ass people with bow and arrows and swords, with a one-eyed dog beside them
an unfrozen soldier who fought in WW2.
This argument is so lazy
We suspend our disbelief for certain things but not for EVERYTHING
That's how it works brother
@@newchangeunlisted_viewer5594 People who make that argument are missing the point I STG.
I Like casual costumes, becasue:
1-i like to see what characters wear outside the line of duty, it adds characterization,
2-i come from media with more fashion-focused designs for outfits, so the hereos having drip streetwear instead of their superhero spandex is a nice transition for people like me, and
3-it's just hilarious to go and beat up hordes of enemies and superpowered villains dressed in a swimsuit.
With all that said, this all depends on the costumes being well-design and interesting to use. Which this game doens't.
I'm a big trench coat simp but even i can admit that widow white trenchcoat is low-effort. Like at least give her a hat for the carmen santiego look.
I suppose this is the inevitable conclusion of a game striving for realism over personality like avengers: the Superheroes in casual outfits don't look like superheroes in casual outfits, thye look like average joes. (and the acutal hero costumes also look like average joes in cosplay)
I like casual too
11:51 normally im a casual costume hater, but i actually like this costume and its because there are details that show the clothes actually belong to the character lmao, like she has a black widow belt on, the zipper on her jacket is the symbol as well, it looks like clothes that she would actually own and wear, wish more casual outfits even attempted this. Also love your videos!! We need more people talking about costume/character design in game, as they often go over looked!
I wanted to weigh in and just say I do like the casual outfits. I find it really charming to see what heros look like when they are off the job. It shows that they aren't just heros, they are people, and that makes it easier to relate with them
Really surprised they didn’t have Bucky’s Captain America suit. That seems like a no brainer.
the fact they don’t give black widow specific hair styles for specific skins just boils my blood
I think THE most egregious thing about BW's costumes is the hair.
Not only do most of the hairstyles not match their comic counterparts, which I guess isn't terrible, but the material for the hair is AWFUL. I noticed it with other characters like Thor too, but on BW it looks noticeably worse for some reason, probably the colors. Everything on the costumes tries to have this more realistic material to it, and I think for a lot of aspects they nail it like with plastic or metal, but the hair looks like something from a PS3 game. It looks super matte and barely lit, and there's little to no contrast in the color of it. For black hair it's less noticeable, but on a character like BW with blonde and "red" hair, it's VERY noticeable and looks really bad.
But yeah, she needed the more red hair. It just looks brown in this game, and I mean come on, people in real life can have pretty red hair, and besides, hair dye exists. Even the MCU gave BW properly red hair in Phase 1. Though, looking at the AoU suit, maybe it's best CD didn't give us red haired BW...
0:54 When I first saw your visual aid, it seemed sexist - all of your likes are men, there are two men and three women you don't care for, and you hate Kate Bishop. But then I watched your video on the Hawkeye costumes, and I realized Crystal Dynamics did Kate dirty.
Yeah almost seems like crystal dynamismcs put more time into the men
Seeing your videos makes me wish we had a wiki specifically for superhero costumes. It could cover everything from appeareances in comics and other media, design analysis, IRL and canon lore, concept art, etc. Also it's kinda sad that the MCU tie-in games have better comic costumes. Speaking of which, that could be a good video, though it sucks that the games are mostly exclusive to PS3 and Xbox360 (the ones with ports to other systems are seriously downgraded). I would like to throw in some other games that I think would make for some good analysis: the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series, the Batman Arkham games, maybeeee Marvel: Future Fight?(sometimes it feels too much like an MCU advertisement, even more than Avengers). There's probably more obscure games I could recommend but idk. Great video as always! keep it up :)
Future Revolution would also be a good choice for costume analysis, since it actually has more accurate costumes.
Agreed. I love learning lore about cool suits for superheroes and villains.
its insane how they managed to mess up so badly on the movie suits. insomniac managed to translate the movie suits perfectly, surely it isnt too hard to double check if the seam lines are supposed to be black or grey?
Yay, winter soldier was actually so fun to play as
In the MCU, Bucky uses his robo-arm for power, and his flesh hand for dexterity and precision. Having a glove would get in the way of that.
Of course, you have to wonder what happens to all the fingerprints he leaves. Maybe they're burned off, or masked somehow.
His fingerprints are like QR codes that brick any database or computer they are fed into
@@bigdaddydons6241 Is that canon?
@@Charliehopper684 no, that was just a hypothetical
I am pretty sure the glove for the metal arm is for gripping 2 handed weapons because of how naturally slippery his mechanical arm and hand is
As someone who ALSO doesn't care for Black Widow. I think the problem is that most people use phrases like "I don't care", "I'm not a fan" or "I don't like" in a negative connotation instead of a neutral one. Specially the later.
So they just assume they are the same as saying "I hate".
Probably giving them too much credit but bucky's hair colour changing could be on purpose to show how he was locked away and only sent out on night missions for such a long time as his hair darkened and the after becoming a hero again and being out in the sun more slowly lightened his hair back to a more natural shade for him
Just to clarify, when you say you dislike or dont care for a character is that just for the game or in general?
In general
The comic illustrator’s went overboard on black widow’s behind, if you know what I mean
I like the casual skins for Widow because they look like something a SHIELD agent would wear. The default turtleneck looks like something you'd see a character wearing in Bond or Mission: Impossible.
Black Widow has the Venom symbiote in a new run and the white parts of the venom suit are now red mixed with her widow symbol. Wish this game had been better we could've got that suit
What makes the causal clothes even worse is because generally everything else in this game screams lazily done and/or bland so seeing plainclothes costumes for superheroes doesn’t help.
This series of videos just keeps getting better and better
Any plans to cover the guardians of the Galaxy game costumes?
Yes
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The devs of this game made it seem like games are near impossible to make when in reality its just impossible for them to make anything worth buying
Black widow is more then just a femme fatal
Hey man its ok if you dont like black widow thats your opinion and even though she a favorite character of mine i can agree with your points
for the widow fear itself, even just adding glowing lines on the tonfas wouldve done alot
Yessir finally 😤
I personally don’t -like- care for her either
if a brief look is 38 minutes long...what's an indepth look? and will we get one?
An in-depth look would be a 40 minute video shitting on one skin per video.
Perfect.
A metal hand probably lacks grip I guess. That’s why WS uses a glove on his metal arm.
I love these videos for real, but man some of your takes and opinions are all over the place.
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The whole "Fem Fatale wearing black leather and using pistols" is such a generic trope, that there are multiple characters like that even within Marvel Comics itself.
All costumes for each character are just recolored over four unique costumes designs…or not so unique . Sure they have at least one design on to itself but largely the are the same skins just different colors.
Love the vids can you please take a look at Fortnites Marvel and Dc skin designs. Id love to hear what you have to say I especially love their green goblin skin design
I could be thinking too much about it but the glove on Bucky's hand in the winter soldier outfit would I presume to allow for some sort of traction and an overall better grip on things while the normal hand doesn't need it because our hands already have quite a bit of traction so I would assume the metal arm has less traction so the glove helps with that
13:00 It's at this point that I realized why her proportions seemed off this whole time (admittedly, this was triggered by the ridiculous 90's proportions): Not only has any exaggerated femininity been removed from her (you'd think a femme-fatale character named Black Widow would have an hourglass figure and not 34-30-34 measurements), but they added this odd, pointless straps at the lover point of her rib-cage on many of her costumes. This makes her figure look very rectangular; not helped by her very flat stance.
I've always enjoyed heroes occasionally fighting in their regular clothes (key word, "occasionally"). It shows them getting caught off guard and if secret identities are a factor, then it adds a level of stakes where they have to be even more discreet. Which is why I really hate nanotech suits. It makes things way too easy and convenient. Suddenly being attacked? Press a button and the suit is there. Need to get somewhere fast? Suit's in your pocket. It takes out all form of stakes and clashes with the grounded nature of what the MCU was built on. It worked for Iron Man because it was his tech that he made that showed the evolution of his suits, always learning, always improving, always making solutions to problems he's faced in the field. But with Spider-man, when the nanotech is handed to him, it just becomes too easy and breaks is own rules (how does he have regular running shoes on underneath the Iron Spider boots? Because Nanotech). And now everyone has some for of nanotech to the point where it's just a cheap gimmick.
Nanotech (and stuff similar to nanotech) can work for different characters, as long as it's not just a lazy shortcut for the characters to have all their gear on them at all times or to show off the actors faces every 5 seconds. For example, the Symbiote can shape shift into regular clothes (not just vanish underneath skin), it's unique and has the extra layer of having sentience that makes it stand out. Black Panther's nanotech suit tore through his clothes when he suited up which adds an extra crutch to it. Doctor Strange can magic his clothes to change in a uniquely styled way. This doesn't belong to just one character, but when it's applied to multiple in the same exact way, then it just becomes tacky
I like more casual skins sometimes because it's a kind of peak into what a more street level or vigilante form of the character could look like. I do think that this game overused this though because it doesn't work well for every character. And on top of that, the actual design of the suits still matters.
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It's a blue yeti usb mic, but I don't remember the exact model
@@DoritoGOD2811 thanks man, really love your content! keep the good work up
every character in this game looks like a fallout 4 mod
Youre saying "Batons" wrong 😂😂
I think the glove in the metal hand is for grip not protection, the metal palms are problably slippery and hard, making them not very good to hold things with.
Dude I absolutely love this video series and I think it would be rly cool if you ranked the Batman skins in the Arkham series but if u want to stick with ranking crappy game skins like the avengers u could do Gotham knights witch sucked just like the avengers but has kinda cool skins
Imo, even though its bland, I actually like Widow's default tactical outfit. Looks like something an actual spy would wear. I always thought she should wear a black turtleneck like how a ton of spies do, with the red hourglass symbol on the stomach
This video got me thinking. A black Widow game could be very good. It could focus on splinter cell styled stealth gameplay or maybe more PS2 era Tomb Raider styled gameplay. Maybe blend those together for a game that goes from stealth levels to action levels. It should focus on the government side of the MCU and maybe outside of Nick and Clint it shouldn't have any other heroes in it. I don't know I just think it could be cool. Also a lot of the outfits in this game could be things she wears in each level.
13:35 my favorite costume
Lol you dislike one of my favorite characters 😂
ive always liked the casual costumes because I always feel like its a situation where they couldnt get suited up fast enough. so you end up getting the bugle boy costume or the american dream costume etc
Didnt know you could mispronounce batons before.
3:35 and 3:42
Um, that's her left, not her right.
I would have liked Hank Pyms ant man and Janets wasp
Knowing how much this game borrows from the MCU, we would have gotten Scott Lang Ant Man and Hope Pym Wasp if the game went on for longer.
Yeah either or I just would have liked a ant man and the wasp
"I don't think Balck Widow has a single good suit"
> 14:43
You lied!
I agree with you, I have literally no interest in Black Widow... Other than... Uhm... A certain part...
I would’ve loved to have seen the Bucky cap costume in this game honestly. If they added Falcon down the line (lol) he could’ve also gotten a captain America suit and you could’ve had almost a full squad of unique caps haha
Why is Crystal Dynamics so stubborn about body proportions, yet change at the weirdest of times? Like, Dorito has pointed out how the body proportions in this game are severely underwhelming, but they change with very specific costumes that don't show up ever again?
Why? If you decided to change it, why not just update all of the other costumes, since it doesn't look like it'll cause many issues with gameplay since you've included it anyway. Like, Black Widow looked really nice with the swimsuit but it never shows up again, same with that one Cap suit that updated his body proportions.
Crystal Dynamics just confuses me, man.
As someone who likes casual costumes and battle-damaged cosmetics, I'd like to throw my opinion into the ring since it's something that keeps coming up in these videos.
Firstly, I just like the variety. A wide range of outfits gives you incentive to switch between them more often and just unlock more of them. Supersuits are awesome and always will be, but if you don't have ANY non-supersuits or if every Supersuit is pristine, then I feel like you're missing out on the variety of having more unique models and outfits.
Secondly is the roleplaying potential. Every costume tells a story, and in your mind's eye, a story of hastily thrown-together gear or the aftereffects of a brutal battle add something to the current fight or mission and can make the character feel more alive.
Thirdly, they add a sense of relatability. Sure, superheroes as a medium are larger than life, but those heroes (especially in Marvel comics) are people, too, and get involved in events even when duty doesn't call. This ties back into point two, sure, but it adds to the fantasy for me: the idea that anyone can be a hero, regardless on if all of their supersuit is on right or if they've been beat up and need to get back up on their own two feet to save the day. Anyone can wear the mask, and no hero in this game is an Adonis who can handle everything thrown at them.
All that said, I do kinda get why you give them low ratings in these videos, anyway. They don't add anything to your personal superhero fantasy, and that's fine! My superhero fantasy tends to have them in supersuits, anyway, so it's not even a fundamental disagreement. I just think, sometimes, something different helps draws you into the character more.
I completely agree.
agreed, and in marvel case they make even more sense than other licensed game franchises.
Black Widow definitely has better costumes than Bucky who’s only good outfits are his movie skins
She had boots in one of the pics so giving her boots wasn't that bad but still Sucks
Her best outfit is the swimsuit😩
Oh shit wonter soldier is in this game? I'm so uninvested at this point I don't even know who is and isn't in the game anymore.
I hope you talk about how dumb it was they led with Lady Hawkeye instead...Hawkeye.
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Love your vids but also bruh some people in that game I hated to play
Spoiler Alert, he doesn't like the regular human wearing regular human clothes.
I love how all of black widows costumes are just "HEEHHEEHEOOOO SINGLE COLOR!!!"
Hey I was wondering if maybe you could do a similar video for the costumes in other recent marvel games like Midnight Suns or Guardians of the Galaxy!
Good video, one thing I will say though is that I don't see why you feel the need to point out if you care about a character or not. Liking a character and liking their design are two separate things, and one is not necessarily relevant to the other
I wouldnt have minded civilian costumes if they did it like they do with Bruce and Tony on the Hellicarrier, use them in Hubs.
The Midder Soldier vs The Chad Hood
i think i'd rather read most of the comics these skins reference then actually play this game.
I like the domino mask if his out fit is lighter and not militaristic as normally is. About as militaristic as classic Nick Fury. Bur not if you want to make him dark and edgy.
I figured the glove on the arm was because of grip or something along the lines
2:52 Dang, Natasha’s got the whole bakery.
Indeed. They clearly forgot that part in her game design.
🙋♂️here the fan of casual outfit, idk they re really neat and it s cool to see them outside of uniform, i liked the thor casual skins an iron man , i would ave love a tony stark in suit like civil war when he fight bucky
13:24 nah man thats Dr Disrespect
Never played this game, but I love these videos so much
Shot in the dark: but can you do the outfits from guardians 2022
It's funny because my favorite Widow skin is the default Turtleneck one, mostly because it's similar to her normal costumes, but different enough. I hate pointless tactical outfits for super heroes unless they are in fact a Military/Tactical/Spy type street level character. Also as a fan of Archer you can't go wrong with the Tactilneck.
What I find funniest is my favorite Bucky skin, is you most hated. The mask on that skin it's fucking terrible you are 100% right about that, but I love the stupid arm hose because it's a stupid comic thing. The rest of the outfit fits that tactical military thing Bucky has normally and it doesn't go overboard with the unnecessary color additions like his Iconic outfits. The Mask is horrible and they should, or should have done a version without the mask and arm hose.
Look forward to you rightfully trashing on the Hawkeye skins and the eventual Guardians of the Galaxy one. I could not care less about Ms. Marvel in any and every form she exists in, but I'll watch that one too. After that you should do other comic videos games and their costumes too as these are definitely entertaining watches I look forward to.
Thank you for taking the time to explain why you like what you like. Most comments just say "I disagree" with no further elaboration. I always think it's interesting to see WHY people like/dislike things and agree/disagree with me.
And I'm sure you'll like what's to come!
@@DoritoGOD2811If you are going to cover costumes from other superhero games, I would recommend the Marvel Future Revolution mobile game. It not only has better original costumes than the Avengers game, but also does a better job translating costumes from the comics. It even has a Black Widow costume from her debut appearance, with 8 different color options to boot!
The Major Bucky suit might be a reference to David Bowie's Major Tom? They both wear a white suit with an orange visor and then there's the name. I might be reaching, tho, since it's the only musical ref as far as I know.
honestly if winter soldier was ANYONE other than bucky that steve would have to go through bucky's death AND another of his friends being winter soldier - both movies and comics
it would be better
- hey steve bucky's alive cool huh?
The consistency is lowkey crazy
22:03 Bucky looks like Tommy Wiseau 😂
oh hi steve
It’s so weird too see all these videos with totally normal takes but in the Spider-Man one he was firing off hot takes left and right