The Stressed Pilot Who Made A Deadly Mistake | Deadly Reputation |Tam Airlines 3054
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This is the story of Tam Airlines flight 3054, on the 17th of july 2007 A tam airlines a320 was flying from port alegre to são paulo's congonhas airport in brazil. The plane departed port alegre at 5:19 pm local time. As the plane flew towards congonhas the weather was very bad, a sign of things to come. The a320 that they were flying was limited in a way, the plane did not have an operational thrust reverser on the number two engine or the right hand side. Thrust reversers are used to redirect air in the opposite direction of travel so as to help with braking.
As they got closer to the they got reports from other pilots who had landed on runway 35L, the runway was wet and slippery, theyd have to be extra careful on this approach as they had an inactive reverser. The plane flew the approach perfectly, as the plane flared over the runway the pilots brought the throttle back, the plane touched down at 140 knots. But soon they realised that something wasnt right. The plane wasnt slowing down as they had expected and the spoilers hadnt deployed. Making matters worse the autobrake system hadnt engaged as well. The nose gear touched down and the plane showed no signs of slowing down, the plane ate through the limited amount of runway that congonhas had.
Six seconds after touchdown the pilots realized that they had to do something and they engaged the brakes with the pedals. They were also fighting the plane, the plane wanted to veer right but the pilots fought it with rudder inputs. But it was too little too late, runway 35L was just too short for the plane to stop, the plane veered to the left and exited the airport premises. The airport was raised by a bit and so the momentum of the plane carried it over a major road near the airport. The plane impacted a building nearby. No one onboard made it and 12 people on the ground did not make it.
Finding out what happened to flight 3054 would be hard, congonhas was one of brazil's busiest airports and if something was wrong they needed to know. Talking to pilots they found something strange. They were apprehensive about landing at congonhas, concerned in way. The airport was surrounded by buildings and was densely populated. Flying in and out of congonhas, especially under rainy conditions was very challenging for pilots.
Why was this? In 2005 they found that the runways had low friction coefficients, that is the runways were putting up enough resistance to slow landing planes down, in addition to that water pooled on the runway making landings very slippery. So they set out to retexture the entire runway and they decided to remove rubber from the runway at increased intervals, all of this was done to increase the friction coefficient of the runway. But water logging problem had not been solved and so aquaplaning reports kept coming in when the runway was wet. At the beginning of 2007 the runways underwent some more modifications to fix the gradient and to work out surface irregularities. As part of this overhaul they decided to put grooves into the runway, the idea was that the grooves would channel the water away and prevent water from pooling on the runways. This would solve the aquaplaning problem that they had been facing.
But the grooving would take time and so the airport management decided to put the runways into service without the groovings for the time being. Quote “In the end, the operational conditions of Congonhas airport brought the pilots a feeling of unease, according to what was learned from the interviews. The reason for the discomfort was precisely the lack of options in case of emergencies. According to the interviewees, the airport offered little or no margin for errors or failures. End quote. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
My wife was coming from Rio to CGH & her flight actually landed preceding this crash. She was still in the plane when this one crashed. She did not hear the explosion, but people on window seats on the other side saw the flash.She was also in an Airbus 320. The crew that day consisted of two full captains don't remember why, each with 1000's hours experience in this type of aircraft.. Ironically, the plane flew over one of the busiest streets in São Paulo at rush hour under a very strong storm, flooding had been reported in that area of town, it barely missed a busy gas station on the other side of the road, and plowed into the TAM airlines cargo building through the front desk & stopped short of the back wall. The building became an inferno with people coming in for the night shift. I remember the governor talking on TV and announcing that no survivors were expected since the temperature inside the building was reported by the FD was expected to be over 1000 degrees Centigrade.
Damn, every time I remember this flight I get a goosebump. I'm from Brazil and can confirm that before this crash, there had been another incidents there...
It's kinda sad that we need crashes to understand how to improve.
I don't think we necessarily need crashes to understand how to improve. I think we understand that well enough with close calls and pilot complaints, easily enough. The problem is that we just DON'T SET PRIORITY to those improvements until there's a crash to bring public outcries, threats of boycott, and so forth as the ultimate incentive to BOTHER with the improvements... If no crashes happened, the improvements would still mosey along, just as "proprietary improvements" on later models as the airline companies (and governments eventually) continued ordering newer, nicer, easier, and safer planes...
Other industries continue to improve steadily without endangering lives. It's just another marketing ploy. People get readily dazzled into "the new fancy version" that's 10X more expensive than last year's or last decade's model that was PERFECTLY good, and even still works fine for the job... The newer nicer stuff still sells...
What's frustrating is that nobody sets a priority for improved readability or specifically mixing visual AND audible alarms or error reporting JUST because a few pilots complain about close calls or point out that they've also had to double or triple check things and complained about the added work-load or stress... ONLY AFTER a mass casualty event or two or even three, is there a new regulation instated or a mandatory upgrade published for those improvements... AND the complaints from the big companies are always the same, "It's expensive!" ;o)
I am a pilot and I love your videos. They help me remember to always stay diligent and to learn from others mistakes. Keep it coming.
@@sidharthabajpai6652 lol
Commercial or corporate pilot?
Olamide! where you been my friend?
@@makipowerwolf203 Hiding from lots of Air Hostesses. And their husbands ......
You are a pilot who needs videos like this to remind you to stay diligent? Really? 😳
My father was in Porto Alegre working and would take this flight to meet the rest of the family in São Paulo so we could go on a vacation trip. His work dragged on more than expected and because of that he called and told us to go because he most likely wouldn't be able to catch the plane, and that he would catch up to us later.
We went to travel, my grandmother used to live very close to the airport, so we passed on the road where the plane went off a couple hours before the accident. During the trip my dad called again to reassure us that he didn't catch the flight. The signal on the road was quite poor so we left it at that.
When we arrived we saw on the tv what had happened, and thank god he called because just the thought that he was supposed to be in that flight made me sick. I can't imagine how it is like for people who lost their loved ones in tragedies like this.
Praise Lord Jesus 😭
My wife landed at CGH that same night. This TAM plane was the next to land after my wife's flight landed. Her plane was still taxiing to the gate. She was sitting on the left side of the plane & didn't see anything. Passengers on the right side saw the plane landing & a flash coming from the end of the runway. The plane crashed into the cargo building of their company 2 buildings away from a Shell gas station. The plane crashed through the front door killing the people in the front counter & customers, and came to a stop before going out the warehouse back wall. The building caught fire & collapsed. Roads were flooded due to an unusually strong storm. Fire trucks took a while to get there because of stopped traffic & severe flooding around that area. It is one of the most dangerous airport in the world. I have landed there many times. There are 10 - 15 stories building within 1000 feet on both sides of the runway. You can actually see people inside the flats. I recall once seeing a topless woman suntanning on her balcony! The end of the runway has a huge checkerboard pattern red & white about 50 meters high extending the entire width oh the runway! The airport was built in the 1920's on top of a small hill, and grew with time. There is a 200+ feet drop from the end of the runway to the street below. It is one of the busiest streets in the city with 5 lane street going each way.very few traffic lights!
This flight pilots that day were two captains who totaled almost 20,000 hours between the two of them. Bad judgement, or & much confidence on their skills probably played a part in the decision to land at CGH. CGH Is like La Guardia in NY. It's very close to downtown &near the business district. GRU, the international airport is about 35 miles away & has 12,000 feet runways. They should have diverted there, which many flights did that day. There is a direct bus service between the two airports every 20minutes!
Great job, the graphics of the accidents are a big jump up from the generic plane shots (Not that those are terrible, this is just better)
Thank you for recommending that video. Half stupid and half hilarious. I'm glad i watched it, thanks again.
I lived 5 minutes from there,my brother had just driven past the building the plane crashed into,a friend was in one car and saw the plane crossing the avenue,and another friend witnessed from her bedroom window while i was talking to her(she started yelling about an explosion) i heard the sirens from my house,everyday on my way to school i used to walk by the hotel where the victims families were....It was extremely sad to see their pain....this accident affected me a lot, i always avoid flying to/from Congonhas ( even though its closer for me) because of those memories always come to surface when i have to go there,and when i drive past the memorial i always avoid looking at it, this kind of tragedy its hard to forget...
i am a pilot when i watch your videos it makes me remind that my every move in the cockpit has to be precise and if i make a mistake in the cockpit i am risking my own life and the 180 passengers sitting behind me
Maybe because English isn’t your native language but you don’t exactly write in a way that says: oh we do have a real pilot here.
sorry offending you........male karen
Fluffy, blow it out Uranus.
Or for LSA rated pilots "My own or possibly my & my wife's" either way the results can be tragic.
@@fluffy-fluffy5996 Very rude
I often did POA-GRU during that year but a week before this accident I flew POA-CGH instead. A friend was flying with me and as we approached Congonhas for landing, he told me about how short the runway was, the lack of grooves, and how risky it was when it was raining. So everybody knew about the risk at the time and did nothing.
This is really random but does anyone remember when Google Maps would allow you to rate a runway? I remember reading the ones at my home airport (Lambert KSTL) while planespotting in 2017 and you actually got some good info about them from actual pilots.
I was unaware of that, maybe the wayback machine has it
Landing at Congonhas is an experience. If you look to the side you can actually see INSIDE some apartments.
It's kinda ironic that the braking method he chose to use less runway caused him to overrun it
That was the same method that caused the over-run of Phillipines Airlines Flight 137.
No there was no other braking option left. Only swift take- off was probably better option...
well, sadly, he didnt choose a braking method in the end . at touch down, he put one engine in reverse but forgot to /didnt move the other one to idle. we cant tell without listening to the CVR exactly how the pilots were preparing during those testing minutes, and without checking TAM training for opposite thrust setting = spoiler deactivation... and this video did not indicate if the pilot with headache was landing the plane... so many factors. sad, indeed...
if he had done it right it was goin to stop earlier and ON the runway..not outside of it...sadly we all are human and we all make mistakes...i cant understand why the FO didnt check the throttles and brakes again...we all look onto the captain but the FO is there too...where was his mind at that time?
@@rezzy851 : Good question. I think one factor is that it was was nighttime and it was dark in the cockpit, so the misplacement of the right throttle wasn't readily visible.
Wow, great job! Your research on this one was very well done! At the time of this accident, I was an airline copilot based at Congonhas. I remember this accident and its investigation quite well. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
10:00 This is literally the first thing that came to my mind when I learned the engines generated thrust in opposite directions. I can't imagine any non-disaster scenario where setting thrust in such way would be beneficial. I was surprised that there was no warning whatsoever. It's a real shame that this got overlooked in original design and only added later as a non-mandatory modification.
Nice and quick. Great job. Adding the throttle and reverser scene helped me to understand the problem. I hope you can include cockpit scenes like that in future videos. Thank you!
Really enjoying your videos, learning a lot too.
You are very respectful of those who lost their lives and not sensationalist at all.
The simulation of the approach has the most realistic lightning I've ever seen in a simulation. Amazing realism. This was one of the crashes from the television Air Disasters (or Mayday) series that really stuck with me. The pilot was so focused on the poor conditions of the runway that he forgot to fly the plane. Pure tragedy. The crash site was like being in Hell.
I remember clearly this accident. Now I live about 2 kilometres from Congonhas Airport and every single plane that is going to land (we get a whole lot of them everyday) I feel apprehensive for those onboard wishing this tragedy never repeats.
Why is there a building asking to get trampled by an approaching airplane standing right dead centre to the runway!!???.. makes no sense.... The airport should be closed and relocated or something must be done.. take advice from japanese technology.. machines under roads that sucks water into a tank during rains ... GENIUS!!!!!
@@anonymus4803 I completely agree with you. All the area around the airport is heavily populated. Here in Brazil money dictates the rules, not good common sense or rationality. If you search for Congonhas Airport in Google Earth or similar you will see what I mean. Thank you for your comment.
@@TioDeive not a very good thing to follow in a country like Brazil... As far s I've seen its a beautiful country but money shouldn't dictate rules.. rules should be followed for the people and for a stable life for everyone .... Hope that no crash as such happens again..
Have a beautiful day!!
- hello from India btw
@@anonymus4803 What I meant by that is sometimes or often, depending on how you look, money is more important than common sense, like avoiding construction around an airport. When Congonhas started this area was empty, you had to cross farms to get there but the city grew around it. Most people here follow the rules and abide by the law, maybe I am a little pessimistic regarding my country because I would like to see her better than it has been so far. We have many problems that should be addressed...anyway thank you for this conversation. All the best to you and to the wonderful people of India! Keep in touch!
@@TioDeive hey thanks man... Have a beautiful day.... You too😀
Shouldn’t the PM have caught all this? What’s the point of having someone monitoring and saying “Spoilers, Reverse Green, Decel”
Exactly
Whats the pm acronym? Pilot monitoring?
@@fredmdea785 yes
Really love the new visuals with FS2020
Thanks I’m loving it too!
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation absolutely love your videos btw, always a delight to see a new one!
Thanks so much!
No matter how unlikely an event may be, remember: it may happen nonetheless. When training at Iberia, an instructor pilot told us trainees of two equal incidents, ony one month apart: telecompass failure. He then explained us what telecompasses are and their very simplicity.
Telecompasses are not mechanical or electronic but simply electromagnetic. Each telecompass system involves a couple of electrically linked units, with no power system applied. Each unit has a 3-pointed star-shaped magnetic material (such as iron) with electric coils. One unit stays at a wingtip, the other next to the actual compass in the cockpit. Just so that the compass gets the Earth's magnetic field as far from interfering things in the plane as possible.
Well, the odds of telecompass failure is thirteen million to one. So, when one failed, it was deemed just bad luck and substituted. But, next month's failure seemed too unlikely, and the manufacturer was called and an investigation was run. Result: again, just bad luck. Astronomical odds? Yes. But it happened.
The irony continues when the building that the plane hit was from the airline itself. Fatalities would be much higher if the accident occurred earlier in the day with the building full of people
Damn, those houses grow fast. They should be cut back every autumn to keep the approach slope unobstructed.
@@jamesdean2185 That’s a lot better than nothing!
Well , unless someone installs a TV antenna haha
I met several relatives of the deceased and one of mine had actually scheduled to be a passenger in the cabin as pilot in training. Honestly, the company gave them psychological help for a couple of years then it was sold and they were forgotten. The impact on their lives was deep, one very young colleague from school lost his father. His mother took it so badly that she prohibited anyone from mentioning the death, so the kid couldn't speak with people and would start crying if anyone brought it up, which was a fairly normal conversation topic around town.
Oh, my. Thank you for sharing.
I've been following since the beginning! You've come a long way in a short time
So much improvement! I always enjoy your uploads!
Another great video from a great channel!
Looking forward to the next one!
Keep up the good work friend !
This was a great video. The improved graphics and the way you related the incident w/o getting too technical were top notch. WellDone!
Great job friend 👍 Thank you for all your hard work and for continuing to share!
I love the simple straight forward explanation! Keep it coming, good man!!
Well done, man! Excellent explanation of this accident. Love your videos ::-)
Great little video, thank you :) I love the new sim footage!
Awesome video mate! This one truly is a crazy chain of events! 😸
I had two classmates on that flight. They were there because another classmate didn't agree to sign a petition to change the date of a final exam which the teacher agreed to. But it was necessary that each student signed it.
I’m sorry for your loss
I guess the third classmate really regretted that decision?
@@NiHaoMike64 Actually, no, not really. we were med students then, (yup, I am a MD), she was just that much selfish. After graduation, I shared ER responsabilities with her a few times, her presence upsets my stomach to this day.
@@8cordas381 am I understanding correctly? Her selfish decision played a role in creating the circumstances leading to two of her classmates’ deaths, and she survived, and lacks regret??
@@Syclone0044 Yes, you understood correctly.
Found this channel about a week ago and by the end of today I will have watched every 👌👌
Great videos - very addictive🙉🙊🙈 I find my self searching for this type of content, but not to many channels are doing it as well as you do. Thank you for it
One thing that surprises me from your videos and other sources is how many accidents involved known faults which were either optional or to be fixed at the next service.
"Air Disasters" (also known as "Mayday") did a good episode on this tragic crash.
Great video, Looking forward to the next one thank you.
Best aviation channel by far. Lesser known accidents instead of the same 5. ✈️👏
What are the 5? I’m gonna try to guess:
1. Tenerife
2. JAL123 the blown off vertical stabilizer that still flew for 30 minutes which no simulator pilot could achieve
3. The Gimli Glider
4. The Netherlands crash in a forest / field where all survived.
5. United XXX(I forget) the one out of NY that exploded due to hot AC units after 2h of stuck on the runway, then a low center fuel tank vapors being ignited due to old faulty wiring short circuiting causing such a violent explosion that the cockpit severed from the fuselage, killing everyone. Many missile conspiracy theories.
Just got to love how you pronounce congonhas 🙏🏾 keep the good work up bruv 👌🏾
Excellent video; this is very informative and thorough. Great job!
Great work. Congratulations on 50,000 subscribers
So glad I found this channel, I needed more airplane accident investigation shows
blinded me with all that flashing lights. easy on our eyes guy
*The animation is a great addition: I love it!*
Its a game
This accident happened just a couple of miles away from my house, it was absolute hell
It’s amazing how developers are allowed to build houses and office buildings near airports and at the end of runways.
@@MovieMakingMan honestly it shocked me too. where i live, the airport is far away from most of civilisation. the worst thing that could happen is that it could crash into airport buildings or other planes. i feel like airports should only be built in good locations with empty flat land
@@hyukleberry5567 I agree. It’s ridiculous to have airports surrounded by neighborhoods. But unethical developers manipulate the system to get permission to build housing in dangerous areas all the time.
@@MovieMakingMan true. aside from that, it's the government's fault too. cuz there are also airports in mountainous areas which is just a disaster waiting to happen
@@hyukleberry5567 You’re right. I’ve seen a lot of ridiculous air strips that are dangerous. Most countries don’t have the same standards the US has. But even with great airports ATCs are key to safety.
Keep up the awesome job brother!
Very well researched, thank you! 🏆
Thank you, this was well explained to the novice.
Good job saying "congonhas". I remember seeing the flames from where I worked. Crazy sad.
Great video as always!
Your pronunciation of Congonhas is really good! Great job on this video!
Good explanation and a nicely modulated voice also: well done. 👍
Awesome video man...I think this featured in Aircrash investigation...But this is interesting
Very nice video. Loved the graphics and explanation. Sounds like both of them were mostly heads up and looking out the window, but it was like the perfect storm. Seems like most crashes or mishaps happen after a few or several different minor things happen at the same time, stacking up on each other. 7 seconds isnt a long time to figure things out and fix it.
Tl;dr - video very good, viewer much enjoy.
I appreciate the factual emphasis i.e. stating fluidly and clearly what occured and why, without changing the focus to questions of which person/group is accountable for such a disturbing tragedy. It makes the viewer curious and compels them to read/research more on their own.
Air crashes are the result of such complex, confounding and ,so often, a desperate chain of errors.
Writing a clear, objective narrative of events from that pool of dense information; into a format that can be easily absorbed by even an adolescent... That is just admirable documentary making, man.
The recreations are a great addition. Almost professional, one should say. Choosing a cockpit view is a smart move. Same with showing the throttle settings in real time.
Anyways, this comment is now some more baby food for the algorithm.
May this channel take off soon.
Cheers, man.
Another great episode. Thankyou.
I giggled at " hydroplaning" 🌊✈
Keep up the great work sir!
Thanks nick!
Love your vids!
As others have mentioned, the current graphics are very nice and much better than the previous generic pictures, but I think it could be beneficial to show some pictures/footage of the actual place. It just feels wrong and like a terrible idea to have an airport where Congonhas is. The actual runway ends in a small "cliff" so even without any obstacles, there is no place for the planes to go in case of running over the runway.
Nice video mate
Thanks!!
Good work, I had heard that the old procedure let the plane stop faster, but not the explanation as to why that was the case.
Wow I wasn't expecting this quality of graphics! Its amazing how quickly this channel has matured and grown. Kudos!
Would love to see more of the smaller emergency situations and ones that aren’t all crashes, just in air emergencies.
Those are coming
The two Qantas flights are a must, the one in which the AP glitched and caused violent nose-down pitches and the one where the engine blew up on an A380 over Singapore
Well explained 👍
Always love seeing new videos from you!
Thanks ScottishAl!
Thanks for explaining why the old method even existed. I would have thought it was a shoe-in to always just put them both into reverse. One would think that it would be engineered so that the deactivated reverser simply wouldn't allow the engine to thrust up at all. Seems not to be the case.
Probably because the difference is negligible. 180 feet on a 6200 foot runway. (55 meters on a 1900 meter runway.)
Either method (pulling back both thrust levers all the way, or pulling back the "good" lever and leaving the defective one at idle) would've been fine. But instead the anxious pilot left the right one at full (or nearly full) power. As another commenter noted, it's ironic that the very fear that the pilot had about being able to stop in time ultimately caused him to fail to stop in time.
Beyond pilot error (they failed to comply with the procedures for that defect) the plane was due to be fixed in São Paulo. However, corporate greed mandated that the airplane should not fly to SP empty (what a waste of money, right ?......).
Many lives lost stupidly.
Had the weather been different, the sum of all errors should not be this.
Wonder how many times i (we) did fly under iminent danger.
A stewardess, a person close to me, was the only whose body was never found amidst the wreckage.
God keep their souls.
Best graphics of all the crash channels.
Text, ahhhhhh yeah, that's like that lil block anybody can click to clarify what a narrative's voice may lack for a multitude of reasons. Nobody can be 100% at all times. It can be used if you are multitasking and don't wish to clutter an on going conversation in the same space/room your not directly involved in also. There are others that ail of adequate hearing as TH-cam itself has added text options to most all channels abilities. Yet, thinking about it this channel's narration hasn't failed yet. Your proactive response and acuity to clientele is if professional quality (Legacy TH-camr & Media would do well to take notice). Clear, well projected, not over amplified (BOOMING) multi tracks, etc. Great work. 👍
A very well done video.
I almost thought this was that accident at I want to say Midway Airport til you reminded me it was in South America. The accident I am thinking of, I believe they landed in a Hertz carpark.
Excellent as always. One point of correction for future videos - FADEC is pronounced FAY Dek. Good job though!
Whoa. Captain following the outdated method for bad weather landing. Very Sad. May all on board RIP
this is a great channel. it would be cool to do a cross-over with scott manley. fly safe!
A client of my accounting firm lost his wife in this accident, she was a passanger. Up to this day people from sao paulo associate congonhas with "the plane that didnt stop" and see that airport as "dangerous"
Just shows how a few seconds of error mean death and destruction.
Your new video format is great. What is it?
Nice!
Shocking to hear that a plane with defective thrust reverser is allowed to fly to any other airport let alone a difficult one.
If it’s allowed by the minimum equipment list then you can
The airport was unsafe. Not difficult
Not on the MEL. Stopping performance during certification is done with no reverses, hence they aren't on the MEL. But on wet surfaces obviously they're the most beneficial as if the anti-skid is fluttering the main gear brakes and the performance is reduced, at least the reverses are doing something constructive during loss of friction moments.
Lots of aeroplanes fly with one thrust reverser locked out. There is nothing unusual in that.
I would rather know if the plane I was a passenger on was compromised in its ability to stop. Redundancy is, after all, there for added safety and not to allow them to fly with known defects. If I took my car out with defective brake pads on just one wheel because there were three others with good pads I would be a twat that deserved to be crucified. 😂. Sounds like there’s an argument for the minimum equipment list to be reviewed each preflight in light of the destinations and conditions to be encountered. Asymmetric reverse thrust must rely heavily on tyre adhesion to counter the lateral forces and reverse thrust is most useful when tyre adhesion is most compromised. I am however not a pilot but just an engineer so I am imagining the effects of asymmetric reverse thrust.
FedEx FO freshly upgraded from Cessna Caravan , first landing in the DC-10:
"Enough with the "terrain terrain" ...Oh shit! I keep forgetting this retractable gear shit!
They knew they would need every possible meter of the runway, yet they didn't decide to go around after realizing it was all going wrong. It seems like going around would have saved everyone in many accidents
Once the reversers are out (especially Max reverse it take a few seconds to regain TOGA power) at the speed they were travelling and the short runway they wouldn’t have had time
@@jamesdean2185 Well diverting to another airport is a big deal. The airplane and passengers would not be where they are supposed to be, logistical nightmare.
The pilots actions in that situation would be seriously questioned.
It boils down to if the pilots operate the airplane as it should be operated in that situation, then this would have never happened.
By leaving the right engine throttle above the idle detent, they caused two other systems to not operate.
Auto spoilers did not move to the "Ground Spoiler" position, which in turn canceled out the auto braking system, delaying braking to when the pilots manually applied the brakes.
@@rudedog302 Just a complete lapse of basic airmanship, or really common sense. Like me coming up to a stop sign or a red light in my car and keeping my accelerator pedal all the way to the floor. Yeah, I can use my brakes but I wonder why I am barely slowing down.
After watching dozens and dozens of these videos I am learning that about half the time it's pilot error that causes fatal incidents. Doesn't really make me want to fly too awful much.
I thought you were supposed to turn into the working engine so you dont stall the wing. Is this different fore the 737?
Your comment that "nobody made it" was somewhat confusing to me. I think saying "all x passengers died" would be more clear.
I love your vids! Thanks
The pilots screwed up badly, it’s basic to check throttles at idle on touchdown.
Any reason there isn't a "landing configuration warning" like there is for takeoff?
Can you do videos on some Soviet Air Crashes such as Aeroflot flight 3352 and Indian ones such as Air India flight 855 and 101.
Officiall ivestigations by the ANAC at the time stated a mechanical issue for the reverser failure. Engine 2 apparently straight up refused getting into reverse or Idle
I read that just before the jet impacted against the warehouse, the pilots screamed for their lives. Such a horrible way to lose one's life.
underrated
I love your videos. I love all your stuff. But it's time to figure out your microphone/acoustics situation. Time to take it to the next level.
Do you mean it sort of sounds like he’s recording in a bathroom or something else with too much echo / Hall effect?
@@Syclone0044 yeah, he needs to wall off his mic a bit
What happened to the video “this happens everyday” video?
On a dry runway you will get away with using the wheel brakes and flares to stop but on a water-logged runway the best thing to use is reverse thrusters to avoid aquaplaning. Who would have thought that an airline would operate their planes even though they were not mechanically in sound condition. Therefor lack of maintenance put aircrew and passengers in danger.
You mean the inactive thrust reverser? It's in the MEL. It can fly with one
It was proved in the simulator even with no reversers the aircraft still stopped in time
My father was scheduled to travel in that flight, but he changed it to the next day.
That airport is scary even in flight simulator
*After SIX seconds, they should have gone around.*
By then it would be too late. It would take at least another 6 seconds to stow reversers and increase to TOGA and then get back up to take off speed. By which time you’d probably be near the end of the runway
@@tomstravels520
*Except they didn't [think] they had the reversers out. And while I agree they would have been **_really close_** to being out of runway, it seems a better choice than what they ended up with. They crashed because of expectation bias. Because that airport is so dangerous, TOGA should **_always_** be considered in the landing briefing (IMHO - IANA Jumbo Jet Pilot, YMMV).*
@@measl that’s even worse. If they think the reverses aren’t out then go to TOGA it would take longer than expected. The rule is once you are on the ground with reversers deployed you cannot try and go around because it would take too long to reset the aircraft in a safe condition to fly. That’s why when you do touch and go landings you don’t deploy reversers
Being a computer scientist, I don't see why any airline should be charging extra for notifying you about speed differences between engines. The critical and safety parts of an airline such as this should always be included and airlines should be barred from making profits by providing them as optional features.
Reminds me of garuda 200
Questions
What was the reg of the plane ?
What gen of a320 is the plane?
Favourite plane in your opinion?
PR-MBK
Airbus A320-233
@@tomstravels520 thanks tom
Thanks so much for making these episodes. It helps my withdrawal from waiting for episodes of Air Crash Investigation. I just wanted to say I am pretty sure FADEC is pronounced like "fay-deck." Anyways thanks again, another interesting episode.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention mark