4 ways to chase a socket
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method no. 5: Mark your square , get a core drill of 82mm go the depth you want and finish it up with the chisel sds on corners.
I tend to mark it out first then use a multitool to cut the shape out the plaster board then SDS chisel for the brick. So many people have their own ways. I used to work with an old fella that still did it all by hand. Hammer and bolster chisel. He was very quick at it too!
I wish these existed when I was younger. We did all of our cuts using lump hammer & feather splitter. We did council house rewires where we had to rewire an occupied house in a day. Killer stuff. Can't emphasise enough how important PPE is now I'm almost 60. Knees & back are knackered. Hands are full of scar tissue, and almost constantly blocked sinuses from years of dust being breathed in. I would also urge wearing at least bump caps if not hard hats. I have given myself some nasty bangs on the head over the years
Great to see you passing skills on though. The industry needs more folks with a well-rounded knowledge.
How many of you did it take to do the occupied whole house rewire in 1 day ? That’s amazing
@@Marco-mg9tv we were generally 2-man squads. Sometimes 2 + 1 apprentice. In most council areas it was all steel conduit drops below floor level as mechanical protection too. It's not something the human body can sustain though. We are all wrecked now, and a lot of the bears I worked with are retired early with all kinds of medical
ailments.
Don’t forget step 4 😂Scutch hammer or scutch chisel I was taught on, works a treat on old listed buildings with soft crumbley bricks
On the Metabo ,only go to the edge of the blade and take the final edge out with the SDS , you can get a near perfect cut out. The Metabo MFE chaser and extractor have literally been the best investment I have ever made!
I am thinking of buying one, just want to know how good are they on bricks
Thankyou
Brilliant! Just what I needed!
I like number 1 best.never did it but have to this week. Not massive job but I don't want dust . cheers buddy
Top work and cheers for the vid take care
Thanks great video
Great vidz on Chasing out sockets . And Could you Cover Internet, data cable Connection ⚡️👊
You’re far from a cowboy & it’s nice to see people taking a bit of pride in their work…. However, I do have a few tips for improvement.
1. It’s the finest particles that cause silicosis so, no dust mask when cutting is going to screw your lungs up far worse than smoking & also the lungs of your customers & employees. We use framed enclosures with extraction to cut boxes/chases.
2. Drilling into single/hollow brick… do it at an angle so it doesn’t crack the plaster on the opposite side.
3. At 35mm depth & greater than 100mm chase on the horizontal, you damage the structural integrity of the wall. A bricky/plasterer would need to cut & insert to comply with building regs. Bonding compound doesn’t have the structural strength to replace brick.
4. Bosch have a dust shroud for grinders gde125eat.
5. Armeg ebs.tcinst.set + Debris collector modified with dust extraction is how we roll.
How is the Armeg EBS mate? I’ve seen it online but never seen anyone use it. Does it go through brick easily?
What's your best way for extending a single socket into a double? One clown who did one for me broke through the internal wall then expanding foamed the box in, and neglected to own up. The other side was covered by a headboard, so we didn't find out until finding the broken plaster, dust, hole and ripped wallpaper when moving the bed
Have you anything on dealing with sockets in skirts? Patching etc
you should look at the dust arrester for the grinder mighty job
good guidance
The cat in the background 😂 8:21
Which do you use nick
Class video
Think stitch drilling works best imo. However I’ve used a multi tool a few times which cuts through the plaster and leaves a very clean edge. Then stitch drill the brick. Proper knackers your multi tool blades though
multi tool blades dont last 2 seconds anyway haha
Get some carbide ones if brick is soft enough you’ll go through and gets a nice clean chase 👌🏻
Very nice. Although I'm not an electrician and only need to chase out a few sockets and some very short grooves in my own home ... nevertheless I *** WANT *** a Metabo with a triple diamond wheel! (but will settle for an SDS of course, sigh). Incidentally, it occurs to me, re the question of dust once you've chased your first channel with the Metabo: mightn't the best way be to leave a very narrow gap (i.e. untouched wall) between each Metabo channel, say a few mm... then if you can do that accurately you'd be able to finish that off with your SDS or even a chisel ... but the extractor would be able to do its job...
Nick you look even younger without your hat on 😄
As newest chase wall video, do wall chasers manage to go through flint? Where I am I got a metre or so of flint wall to chase before get to normal wall
No they don’t mate, won’t even look at it , you need a couple sticks of something and stand well back and I mean well back probably round a corner to be safe then just rebuild leaving space for your double socket.👍
there is arrows on the side of the metabo which indicate the edge of the blade, use the metabo and knock the corners out with hammer and chisel.
Which way is easiest for a concrete house ie wimpey nofines concrete. Thanks
Very neat Workmanship Nick 💪.
Any one know , what Joules SDS "minimum" should i go for ?
is 2.5 or 3.5 J . 🤔
we have a bosch 2-28F 3.3 joules i believe and id does everyhitng but it's slow for concrete, definitely would recommend something stronger if you're gonna be doing alot of concrete
Hammer and Scutch chisel. That soon got tiring 😂
Try a mini grinder with diamond blade gets the job done in jig time and very neatly too without racking the surrounding brickwork but you spend the next 3 weeks cleaning up the stoor and redecorating as everything in the house gets a liberal one inch coat of black dust and you end up looking like Al Jolson , the dust even got inside me jocks mate.
Metabo wall chaser always! On an other note, any updates on that little transit connect? 😜
Still not got round to it mate, gonna finish it over Christmas 👍
AEG Wall Chaser outclasses every other chaser Mate.
Great Video NIck
Stitch drill for me 👍
Wasn't that a metal cut off wheel in the grinder?
We use 18v dewalt grinder with dust arrest shroud fitted connected to dust extraction unit
What's the name of the shroud I've been looking for a good one
@@kakhead dust arrest
So are 1 and 3 the same except for drilling the holes at the start?
Don't Bosch drills come with depth gauge?
Most sds drills do
Nine times out of 10 I use a Grinder with a shadow hoovering. You look a lot younger with out the cap. Good look keep up the good work.
Nick, whats youre process when you're wiring up a room that's back to brick. Do you still sink your backboxes in or are they flush mounted?
Cheers
If its 25mm boxes we screw then to the wall but 35mm we chase them in 10 mm dude
Mr B, well over a year ago you said you had ordered a bosch dust guard for a small angle grinder, poss' 125 mm, that you could attach a hoover to, so just to remind you, you never did show it. So did you get one or not and if you did why not use it for chasing in the box.
Yeh I would give it a go mate but when you end up looking like coal miner you realise you should have went to Specsavers and switched the hoover on . 👍
club hammer and bolster
So who bares the cost of cutting disc, client or spark?
90 quid is fuck all when you consider how much quicker it is. client probably saves it in days on the job especially with rock hard render
18v milwaukee sds chaser i can literally get them bang on everytime within a few minutes
In modern electrical Installations you would just use Circular Backboxes, Saves Time,Effort and Money :) But we all now the British electrical gear isnt the smartest really and not up to modern standards. Great video regardless
Maybe not Jorge but our safety standards in UK are a tad higher than your native Albania , mate ?
@@johnaustin635 UK Wiring regs are a joke compared to german regs. Also a domestic sparky in UK is a piece of piss compared to Germany.
Glad we have round boxes here in the Netherlands.
Wish we had them
@@NBundyElectrical There was something that came out in the 80s where you had a round hole cutter (like the one used for fans) you used to do one for a single and two for doubles the 35mm back box was plastic and had round corners it did not catch on though
@@NBundyElectrical with some of the methods what spots you do round for box to fit in then fill what outside it so plaster can make look tidy
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I've only ever done stitch drill of the box but I wouldn't of drilled the middle of the box area just the outside that way the centre of the brick will stay and not fall out for a good fixing the chaser is massive no no waste of time it's not neat,
I tried with a wall chaser, it made a HUGE mess
So I ended up stitch drilling the outside with a 5mm and then a few hours in the middle with a much larger bit, 25mm, before chipping away the brick inside
But where I had walls that were block I used that armeg box cutter spinning contraption, great for blocks, absolutely useless for bricks
Run around haha
Not a job I enjoy doing. How about that single brick wall separating from next door, wooden floors too. Sound insulation must be very poor.
I was shown another way very similar to the grinder method but causes far less mess and creates a fairly neat finish.
Use a multi tool with a blunt blade to cut the plaster. Then SDS the brick.
It’s neater and more accurate than the angle grinder and less mess.
Great vid Nic
1 and 3 are how I do it in the states the last one with the grinder if you use a chisel or vibrating cutter it wld be cleaner. overcuts like 2 and 4 are very hacky and amateurish glad your a spark not a carpenter your staircases wld fall thru lol
5 ways actually, get the apprentice to do it !
No Armeg 😭😭😭
if you ever use an angle grinder on concrete block wall ..you,ll only do it once,,,,,,,,and never again...!
All four complete suck compared to just using round boxes. 82mm hollow core drill, dust-free and done.
Could you let a plumber know about this 😁😁🤬🤬
Never a good idea to run cables under ground floors, risk of rodent damage