For the show I want this to happen. After attuning to the dwarven thrower, he grows a beard and excitedly tell everyone in the group. We cut to Vax growing a mischievous look before exclaiming to Grog that “this is cause for celebration and for being there for each other, I’ll buy the drinks”. Drinking montage ensues as it finally comes to full night and... someone sneaking around. It’s Vax with a Cheshire grin, lathering cream, and his knife. We hear him chuckle as it fades out. Cut to morning (stereotypical cartoon crack of dawn music) we see the back of Grog (or at least mostly hidden) he yawns, stretches, and puts his hand to his face before the music cuts abruptly and he starts to tremble. Then it cuts to someone else, (either an NPC or a member of VM who isn’t Vax) and with a shaking frame the earth shattering roar of “VAAAAAAAX!!”
I HATE when Laura goes into wife mode. Good thing she's more professional now, she doesn't do that as much on set. Tbh, I like to think this is Vex going into judgy sister mode instead.
Ok we know Travis stuffed Liam into the couch after this event transpired. And also would just like to point out he broke the mechanical pencil mostly one handed.
Yes, this went past character, and into RL as Travis and Liam later revealed. Travis was both in character, and not in character, when he broke that mechanical pencil. Liam didn't realize at the time, how attached Travis was to that fictional beard. SPOILERS: . . . . This is the same as Taliesin's unhappiness with Sam, when Scanlan threw Percy's gun into the acid. He was never able to replace that weapon with another magical gun, making him useless against Vecna.
@@Hawkwinter01 What are you talking about? he had the animus pistol, That was magical, I think it was a +1 and did extra psychic damage and on a miss-fire the user took psychic damage, it wasn't as good as the list but he did have a magic gun . . . . also, Scanlan saved Percy's soul from a demon (and himself) when he destroyed the list, Scanlan had a very good reason to destroy the gun . . . Vax just wanted revenge for some bullshit from months back, he wasn't trying to help or save Grog, it is very much different to Scanlan and Percy
I know that Grog and Vex aren't in any sort of relationship, but it still comes off as a man and his brother-in-law butting heads, probably because Travis and Laura actually are married and what not. Good shit.
Jacob Fike simple you made fun of how Goliaths smell. I may not know much about them, but i do know they’re damn proud of how they look and Vax just went off and do this. Note it was Vax’s comment about the sulfur like area smelling like Grog that started it so.......it’s on his head
I disagree. I think low intelligence would actually make someone MORE inclined to blame the most immediate thing around them, which for Grog would be his constant feuding with Vax. Just imagine a dumb pair of brothers butting heads. They're both dumb as dirt but if one finds his room trashed one day, whats his first thought going to be?
Even making that association takes a bit of intelligence, but in that context between siblings I agree it makes sense because of how common it would be and the narrow amount of possible explanations. The thing is, the situation we've watched is nothing like that. First of all, the list of suspects is bigger if you want to accuse someone. He's sleeping at a tavern, and it's no surprise that lodgings at taverns aren't the most secure of places. Sure, out of all the strangers in there, Vax would have the most motive, I'll give it that. It's a bit of deduction that I don't think someone with 6 intelligence would so instantenously arrive at, but sure, I would be more acceptant of that... but there's more. Second, and I believe this is the most important point, he *doesn't fucking know how all of that works* . It's like Liam himself said afterwards. Grog wears a belt and the next day there's hair coming out of his face, how could he possibly explain that? I'm not denying there's a way to specify how the magic works there, but I *am* saying that Grog would have no idea what that is. His perspective is that for an unknown reason (or, at best, thanks to some mumbo jumbo from the belt, which I don't recall if he was aware of) he's been growing a beard, something no Golliath can do. Then it keeps going, hey that's great! Then some day he wakes up and half of it is gone. There's absolutely no clue here to incriminate Vax. It could be a disease, it could be another source of magic, it could be the belt malfunctioning, it could be almost literally anything. No reason why he'd instantly jump to Vax - I'd even be skeptical of a higher intelligence character doing that. Now *him* ? At the *very least* I would suggest maybe something like rolling dice to figure out which of these various explanations Grog jumps to first, at random. I suppose that would be in character. But that's not what happened, he simply picked the conclusion that was most convenient out of a sea of possibilities. Like I said, I still love them all. But I rest my case!
Except, inteligent thinking would be to search for all the possibilities. Him making assiciation simply on emotion and on what he knows is the most natural thing you could think of. Why would Grog consider magic as the first explanation? The most natural and effortless thinking process would be "part of my beard is missing" -> "someone did it" -> "i hate vax, it was vax". Thinking it was magic would require for him to dismiss a posibility and think about magic. It was done for comedy but it still seams like the most natural thing. He doesn't need to consider why his beard grows in such conclusion. More intelligent character could maybe take the otehr possibilities like magic or dissease into consideration and then dismiss them. Grog isn't big thinker. He knows what beards are, he knows they can be shaved, he finds his shaved, he goes with the most natural thing.
Perhaps we all are overthinking this. Grog could have assumed it was Vax. It's not like anyone else would have shaved his beard. Besides, this moment is absolutely worth the suspension of disbelief.
There is literally NOBODY else he would blame, I am pretty sure that if for example Scanlan shaved it, or because "magic is mysterious" and half of his beard dissappeared he would still immediately blame Vax Also 6 intelligence doesn't mean you don't ever learn a thing or can't ever figure things out, the party (well, besides Vax) always tries to get Grog to think more
Liam has his moments of being a bit of a "that guy" player, hates when it doesnt go his way. Love him 90% of the time but yeah that bugs me. Like his constant Keen Mind shit.
Oh that bugs you, huh? So all D&D players should adhere to your personal tastes, huh? Hate to break it to you, mate, but rogues are supposed to be tricksy characters. The fact that Grog only woke up with half his beard missing and not his throat slit is proof of that.
@@deathbykonami5487 Ahh so you're that kind of player "BuT ITs WhAT RoGuES dO" You don't understand the class if you think that all rogues just go about slitting the throat of fellow players. Oh btw what you said has literally fucking nothing to do with my original comment...
@@deathbykonami5487 Ohh okay so same for you? Especailly when you're a sad excuse for a troll. C'mon try harder bro this is some weak shit. You literally replied to my OP with something random... go sober up
4:16 perfect comedic timing
Travis: I say in a low guttural growl..
Liam; You have no idea it was me
Grog: Vax....
I'm going to assume it was you
For the show I want this to happen. After attuning to the dwarven thrower, he grows a beard and excitedly tell everyone in the group. We cut to Vax growing a mischievous look before exclaiming to Grog that “this is cause for celebration and for being there for each other, I’ll buy the drinks”. Drinking montage ensues as it finally comes to full night and... someone sneaking around. It’s Vax with a Cheshire grin, lathering cream, and his knife. We hear him chuckle as it fades out.
Cut to morning (stereotypical cartoon crack of dawn music) we see the back of Grog (or at least mostly hidden) he yawns, stretches, and puts his hand to his face before the music cuts abruptly and he starts to tremble. Then it cuts to someone else, (either an NPC or a member of VM who isn’t Vax) and with a shaking frame the earth shattering roar of “VAAAAAAAX!!”
@@giraffedragon6110 that have to animate your description sequence!!! They just have to!! I love it!!! Abs I can totally see it happening!
@@giraffedragon6110 Percy reading and having a nice cup of tea or just an aerial shot of the keep lol
@@giraffedragon6110 If they don't they failed as writers to leave out this pure perfection
I love the look on Liam's face at about 1:49, as Matt describes Grog's full beard. That's the face of someone who just got a brilliantly evil idea!
Hell, I love that Sam IMMEDIATELY knew that Liam was going to pull something before he even outlined anything.
Ethan White Mischief makers can recognise the look
I love how Laura like absorbs all the anger that couldn't be contained within Travis, that's some symbiosis shit right there.
I LOVE how Laura went into wife mode
Ian Ventura i have to go to the store and get some rest of the world
It was a bit overshadowed, but she was SO proud he grew a beard, too. That whole scene just kills me. XD
I HATE when Laura goes into wife mode. Good thing she's more professional now, she doesn't do that as much on set.
Tbh, I like to think this is Vex going into judgy sister mode instead.
Ashley coming to Grog's defense as Pike. Laura coming to defend as his I.R.L. wife.
Good on Ashley.
Forever my favorite moment
"He just broke a mechanical pencil"
He clearly raged...
Grog may be dumb... but a Goliath never forgets
SharkShocker now I'm picturing Grog with an Elephant trunk.
Unless it's about the deck of many things
But I forget what the Goliath remembered
4:26 live footage of Liam O’Brien fearing for both his character’s life, as well as his own
That's not fear, that's Vax capitalizing on the fact that Grog is dumb as a post
Matt was just as shocked as we were when Travis broke that pencil lol
He saw that, knew Travis was mad, so made him roll both Stealth and Sleight of hand.
Matt: (hands up) Hey man, I made it as hard as I could for him.
Ok we know Travis stuffed Liam into the couch after this event transpired. And also would just like to point out he broke the mechanical pencil mostly one handed.
Yes, this went past character, and into RL as Travis and Liam later revealed. Travis was both in character, and not in character, when he broke that mechanical pencil. Liam didn't realize at the time, how attached Travis was to that fictional beard. SPOILERS:
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This is the same as Taliesin's unhappiness with Sam, when Scanlan threw Percy's gun into the acid. He was never able to replace that weapon with another magical gun, making him useless against Vecna.
Hawkwinter01 So while everyone else was fighting Vecna, Percy is just in the corner watching everything going I wanna help too :'(
Exisist old comment but where was it revealed about this going past just in game?
Exisist Travis did WHAT
@@Hawkwinter01 What are you talking about? he had the animus pistol, That was magical, I think it was a +1 and did extra psychic damage and on a miss-fire the user took psychic damage, it wasn't as good as the list but he did have a magic gun . . . . also, Scanlan saved Percy's soul from a demon (and himself) when he destroyed the list, Scanlan had a very good reason to destroy the gun . . . Vax just wanted revenge for some bullshit from months back, he wasn't trying to help or save Grog, it is very much different to Scanlan and Percy
1:49 Then he got an idea; an awful idea. Liam got a wonderful... awful idea.
Laura was in highkey Alfa Wife™ mode here.
"An appetizer of things to come my friend"
2:05 you can see the exact moment Travis realizes that Vax is about to do something to his beard.
Anyone else notice Travis flexing his chest muscles at 3:15 😂😂 he's actually pissed. I'd be scared
Have you seen him react to the giant drinking all or Grog's ale?
?? Hes breathing, and roleplaying
ThisIsMego I remember that. The beauty of that was travis CHOSE to go nuts at the formorian he didn't have to
Pike defending Grog ("Hey, don't be rude to him!") is THE SWEETEST GODDAMN THING!
I know that Grog and Vex aren't in any sort of relationship, but it still comes off as a man and his brother-in-law butting heads, probably because Travis and Laura actually are married and what not. Good shit.
Liam is practically Travis’s brother-in-law. Laura and him are very good friends.
Seeing the ball tapping animated was great 🤣
why are you so mean?
Why did he trip me and make me eat shit two months ago?
lol
Jacob Fike simple
you made fun of how Goliaths smell.
I may not know much about them, but i do know they’re damn proud of how they look and Vax just went off and do this.
Note it was Vax’s comment about the sulfur like area smelling like Grog that started it so.......it’s on his head
@@PChamileon97 Not Goliaths, but Grog specifically, Vax insulted Grog and got tripped over for it and held a grudge for months . . . talk about petty
Vax hasn’t forgotten about the trip he suffered in mines, lol. This became personal.
5:05 the murderous look of Travis’ face... I was genuinely scared for Liam
Travis breaking that pencil was fucking terrifying.
let's say I assume
I didn't get that bit, do you know the story behind it?
"Maybe I don't know let's say I assume"
I forgot how damn blue the old set was
2:34 my favourite scene
Good things come to those who wait. So does revenge.
Liam is sooo petty, I love it ❤❤❤
Pike and Grog forever
This makes me happy xD
I know it would make me a bad player but I might have to physically beat you if you ruined my imaginary beard...
4 years late, but pretty sure Travis stuffed him in the couch after this. A friendly stuffing a course.
#thankyouvax for these primo goofs
Not a huge D&D nerd but beards are rare for Goliaths?
Goliaths don't naturally grow beards. Grog only has a beard because wearing the Belt of Dwarvenkind's magic made him grow one.
Goliaths have zero body hair.
@@BarokaiRein At least they don't have to worry about waxing or shaving.
Some mechanical pencils are weaker than wood so I'm not sure yet as to how impressive that was.
yes cause wood is easy to bend with one finger. Even if it was weaker I know the average person can't do it.
Love them all but Grog absolutely should *not* have made that association so quickly. That's not 6 Intelligence thinking.
I disagree. I think low intelligence would actually make someone MORE inclined to blame the most immediate thing around them, which for Grog would be his constant feuding with Vax.
Just imagine a dumb pair of brothers butting heads. They're both dumb as dirt but if one finds his room trashed one day, whats his first thought going to be?
Even making that association takes a bit of intelligence, but in that context between siblings I agree it makes sense because of how common it would be and the narrow amount of possible explanations.
The thing is, the situation we've watched is nothing like that. First of all, the list of suspects is bigger if you want to accuse someone. He's sleeping at a tavern, and it's no surprise that lodgings at taverns aren't the most secure of places. Sure, out of all the strangers in there, Vax would have the most motive, I'll give it that. It's a bit of deduction that I don't think someone with 6 intelligence would so instantenously arrive at, but sure, I would be more acceptant of that... but there's more. Second, and I believe this is the most important point, he *doesn't fucking know how all of that works* . It's like Liam himself said afterwards. Grog wears a belt and the next day there's hair coming out of his face, how could he possibly explain that? I'm not denying there's a way to specify how the magic works there, but I *am* saying that Grog would have no idea what that is. His perspective is that for an unknown reason (or, at best, thanks to some mumbo jumbo from the belt, which I don't recall if he was aware of) he's been growing a beard, something no Golliath can do. Then it keeps going, hey that's great! Then some day he wakes up and half of it is gone. There's absolutely no clue here to incriminate Vax. It could be a disease, it could be another source of magic, it could be the belt malfunctioning, it could be almost literally anything. No reason why he'd instantly jump to Vax - I'd even be skeptical of a higher intelligence character doing that. Now *him* ? At the *very least* I would suggest maybe something like rolling dice to figure out which of these various explanations Grog jumps to first, at random. I suppose that would be in character. But that's not what happened, he simply picked the conclusion that was most convenient out of a sea of possibilities.
Like I said, I still love them all. But I rest my case!
Except, inteligent thinking would be to search for all the possibilities. Him making assiciation simply on emotion and on what he knows is the most natural thing you could think of. Why would Grog consider magic as the first explanation? The most natural and effortless thinking process would be "part of my beard is missing" -> "someone did it" -> "i hate vax, it was vax". Thinking it was magic would require for him to dismiss a posibility and think about magic. It was done for comedy but it still seams like the most natural thing. He doesn't need to consider why his beard grows in such conclusion. More intelligent character could maybe take the otehr possibilities like magic or dissease into consideration and then dismiss them. Grog isn't big thinker. He knows what beards are, he knows they can be shaved, he finds his shaved, he goes with the most natural thing.
Perhaps we all are overthinking this. Grog could have assumed it was Vax. It's not like anyone else would have shaved his beard.
Besides, this moment is absolutely worth the suspension of disbelief.
There is literally NOBODY else he would blame, I am pretty sure that if for example Scanlan shaved it, or because "magic is mysterious" and half of his beard dissappeared he would still immediately blame Vax
Also 6 intelligence doesn't mean you don't ever learn a thing or can't ever figure things out, the party (well, besides Vax) always tries to get Grog to think more
Liam has his moments of being a bit of a "that guy" player, hates when it doesnt go his way. Love him 90% of the time but yeah that bugs me. Like his constant Keen Mind shit.
Oh that bugs you, huh? So all D&D players should adhere to your personal tastes, huh? Hate to break it to you, mate, but rogues are supposed to be tricksy characters. The fact that Grog only woke up with half his beard missing and not his throat slit is proof of that.
@@deathbykonami5487 Ahh so you're that kind of player "BuT ITs WhAT RoGuES dO" You don't understand the class if you think that all rogues just go about slitting the throat of fellow players.
Oh btw what you said has literally fucking nothing to do with my original comment...
@@metalbat8414 Shilly shally, mate! Nothing you say matters because you don't matter!
@@deathbykonami5487 Ohh okay so same for you? Especailly when you're a sad excuse for a troll. C'mon try harder bro this is some weak shit. You literally replied to my OP with something random... go sober up
Liam is so cringey
So's your asinine comment.
He can be sometimes, but this scene was gold. Travis needed to chill