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Once again Snyder proves he should not be let near the writing room. All of his movies suffer from when his hands are on the plot and pacing of the story. This is basically a flashy recreation of Seven Samurai but filled with so much unnecessary junk. He’s only useful for producing "cool" visuals, but even then he often goes overboard with things like slo-mo to the point where the overall impact is watered down. Like a child with no impulse control
Snyder Darkseid - brain damaged, passes out, wakes up in 5,000 years and can’t remember that Earth is where he got his azz beat.😅 This was the moment that I knew that Snyder was hopeless as writer/director.
I hope we get more of the robot Jimmy in the directors cut of both part 1 and 2. That character has so much potential. With little we seen from him, I loved.
again with the director's cut?!... Take Lord of the rings for example..Now those are director's/ extended cuts!! Both theatrical n Entended versions are great!.. Which this RM absolutely ain't... U saying the reason the original ain't good coz it ain't a true vision?well most can't accept that excuse... The theatrical LOTR were ALREADY Jackson's vision of Tolkien stories comes to life...but made BETTER with the extended cuts! Rebel Moon on the other hand...
Can’t get over how unrealistic that the planets are sooooo close together that nature does not smash them together?! In the scene where the baddie spaceship flies between 3 planets … the massive red gas planet is static … not one mini swirl at all…. The big craft crashing into the ground ….. that impact would wipe out the village ….. I know it’s fantasy but ….
Figured out its issue with it's narrative...if it was a linear story it would be far far better rather than flash back and exposition discussions...seeing those origin stories in part one then as each rebel against the Imperium they find each other until a final battle on the moon. We would have got much more on board with each character. Thoughts?
That makes a lot of sense. Get us invested in the individual characters first, them introduce us to the world and develop the main story, with the individual characters we already know entering as normal. Much better format. Given how Snyder had to essential repackage two 3+ hour rated R movies into two 2 hour PG-13 movies, I can see a situation where he had to take whole sequences and splice them in elsewhere or move them to a different movie to adequately get the story beats to at least make sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the director's cuts don't just add missing scenes, but somewhat repackage how the story is presented.
some of y’all swear snyders sins are that of GOT. i know when i watch a shyamalan movie it won’t have a solid ending. there are certain writers/directors you should already know what to expect.
Question: Who forced you to watch this film? If you saw the first one and were disapointed, why bother watching the sequel if you knew what came before?
@@sizweshongwe7312it’s bizarre, the amount of people that watches things they know they’re gonna dislike but still do anyway and then moan about it It’s like running into a brick wall and complaining that the wall was solid brick…. It’s actually so stupid
@@sizweshongwe7312 I guess the same person that forced you to read and respond to my comment. 🤣🍻 Or are we only supposed to leave a comment if we had a positive view of the movie?
-The overuse of slowmo in both movies had me bored. 30-40 mins of slowmo of farming…like why? -Part 2 felt like part 1, just rewrote. The acts were pretty much the same: home field, invasion, boss fight. And the boss fight was the same characters in the first one. -The bullet impacts look like a rip off of Lilo and Stitch with liquid-like animation. -Not a fan of the crazy bokeh they used with the swirl/circular effect was just awful. -I never felt like any of the main characters were ever in any real danger. -no real character growth for anybody
I think either way, whoever idea was to split it. Netflix and Zach are both to blame. I in they should’ve just thought about putting a good movie out first and then make plans later.
Blame…. Blame for what exactly??? What’s happened?!? People online live in their own little bubble to the point where they skew reality FYI, Part 3 is being worked on… So what’s being blamed on anyone and why do Netflix and Snyder need to take blame?? Please expand on this as it seems like you believe there is some type of crisis happening??
did anyone catch the female robot in the directors cut when they go out the bar with the pilot guy? it seemed like it was a imperial robot. but idk if there was any follow up to it.
@@Vegan_Photographs I don't hate it, just wished there was something more. He wants to create more in this universe, unfortunately I don't think it warrants more after two films.
This was definitely better than part 1 with the real action being the back half. However, character work is still a problem with those like the sword lady having her story end here with relative ease, noticeably leaving the ploy for supplement material to fill in what came prior on her revenge tour.
HOLY shit. A 13% critic and 47% audience score. That means this garbage was worst than the last. Who here is giving Zack Snyder work lol? Hollywood stopped. Anyone who likes his work must be the type that likes anything, probably the type that is easily amused by CW shows and things the Fast Furious franchise is Oscar worthy.
Well, her arc in the overall story which will be released later on this year is far more fully fleshed out However, I still wouldn’t say that what was made is ‘lacking character’ throughout the movie as some people state, I really think thats not really a valid reason to say the movie is bad as there is lots of character development in it But for some reason if some characters are lacking full development (as all movies do) Snyders movies always get torn down for this even though Kora, Noble, her BF, and others have enough screen time to understand who they are You simply cannot give every single character the screen time in what some of the critics are stating That’s just this way with every single movie that’s ever been made Question, is there ANY character development within part 1 and 2… YES and if anyone states otherwise, I genuinely believe it’s such a bad opinion simply cause enough currently exists to still make the movie work
Like Paul said there's not much reason to watch these movies knowing there's going to be a director's cut for both in a few month. I wish I didn't watch either one because they really do feel like repackaged lesser products of something better.
@@vinyfiny I don't see any way to redeem these crap movies. He is going to add even more slo mo pointless scenes. Was his justice league better? Sure but it wasn't good. Also I don't get why he keeps agreeing to release versions of movies that aren't what he wanted.
@@traviso7810 I mean Zach explained exactly why there's more than one version of these movies in the video. He got to make the movies he wanted, but only if he made these bastardized versions as well. Choose your battles I guess. Like Paul said, you know if you like Zach Snyder movies or not. He's pretty consistent with how he makes movies so if that isn't your cup of tea then no need to waste your time being disappointed. I like his movies, and I liked the potential of these movies, so I'm looking forward to the director's cuts. I doubt they'll be modern cinematic classics, but entertaining will suffice for me. I personally thought the Justice League Director's Cut was fantastic, so I guess I'm much more likely to enjoy Snyder movies than you. If you don't like the Rebel Moons at all, then don't watch the director's cuts. They're just movies, it's not a big deal. I'm sure a bunch of my friends and family have no interest in watching any of these movies and never will, and that's perfectly fine.
I’m honestly a bit concerned about how some people didn’t appreciate this movie. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. The slow pacing really allowed the film to dive deep into every tiny detail-like the way she cuts her hair or the meticulous way she turns the mega cannon to the ship’s bridge. It wasn’t just about the big moments; the backgrounds and small touches really added to the storytelling. It felt like a true masterpiece. But I’m starting to think that maybe people who are so used to fast-paced content-like reels and TH-cam shorts-might be missing the point. This kind of film isn’t for everyone, and that’s okay, but I just wish people would take the time to appreciate the depth here. Honestly, if you're going to watch it, the director's cut for both parts is the way to go. It’s such a better experience. I just hope more people can open themselves up to this kind of cinema. It deserves to be seen in the right way.
Part 2 has a ridiculous amount of over the top PG-13 & WTF moments. My "favorite" WTF moments, the Scargiver reaches the engine room, which uses coal (!?), yes, warp/FTL + the nuke-cannon that need coal to be fueled, and the, what, central core of the ship, is a big robot head, it has a face, it's kinda sentient (!?), and nothing is explained: W... T... F... is going on here??? 😂
I actually liked this one visuals were nice, acting was fine and the movie looked more complete Nothing amazing like Dune 2, but it still is a descent movie imo kudos to Snyder for trying to make another cinematic universe, but if he really wants to continue his world, he needs a better writer regardless, it was worth a watch, 7/10
HOLY shit. A 13% critic and 47% audience score. That means this garbage was worst than the last. Who here is giving Zack Snyder work lol? Hollywood stopped. Anyone who likes his work must be the type that likes anything, probably the type that is easily amused by CW shows and things the Fast Furious franchise is Oscar worthy.
wat did u like? d 40 mins of harvesting grain? d reli hideous costumes n hairstyles, d random singing, d contrived love plotlines, d robot on a rock, d highly advanced space army who loves bread so much all they want is grain, what on earth couldve like about tis crap? djimon slow mo harvesting grain?
@@Mike-vo9teget a fucking life man, you’re literally moaning at someone case they chose to enjoy something rather than being weird and angry at someone that’s simply made something Your reply is so weird
I liked it too. Don’t really care if critics or other people didn’t. Last hour is nothing but action and i enjoyed it. The slo-motion never bothered me. Idk why people are watching Snyder films if they don’t like slo-mo. He’s not going to change his style
I couldn’t agree more. It’s like the writer forgot the main character was supposed to be the superhero and the robot was really to me. Useless like what was up with the tattered cape like cape and the crown and the Superman flying like robot he just stood around, watched and only helped a little bit.😂
I just finished watching it - so bad - did anyone else feel like there was a ton of stuff related to the robot James that was cut out from both movies? I feel like he was supposed to be some central through line for the whole thing and it just got cut.
They made him cut out the why of his vision and he knows it. He knows it is an awful approach, he smile, he takes it, whoever ruinous for the present but he takes it to make it. Thats really sad it is almost tear worthy.
Sadly capital gain always trumps artistic expression so studios will always butcher releases in order to make them more "accessible". So these directors cuts are the only way to get the uncensored versions.
I'm all excited and hyped for REBEL MOON 2,3 I find it exciting entertaining Brilliant extremely impressive full of excitement and a Masterpiece Epic. I loved it
Zach was in talks with my cousin to make a comic book called Cobalt 60 which wud have been this movie. In the end he ended up giving up on it after the superhero fatigue set it on the world i thought zach wud have given him the call but he made this dumpster fire instead. Please look this up and do a video on this maybe
Well I've just finished watching Rebel Moon 1 & 2 on Netflix via Zack Snyder. Myself and my wife really liked both parts. Was it Oscar worthy, no but both movies were engaging. One of the tests I like to use is the time. And honestly both were over quickly regardless of the over 2 hrs each. That is a big plus entertainment wise. As to grading both... it really can not be done as both are really chapters in a bigger story / universe. So I'm in hopes that Netflix gives the go ahead for more "chapters".
Haters after part 1: there was no background to the characters and no character development. Same haters after part 2: it was a chore to sit through the background of each character. Why do they show the life in the village for an hour? True story.
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Just give us the uncut version ..netflix really just need to give the fans what we want snyder uncut R then we can see if this movie really good ...at the moment its like a shoddy relationship
I know a few people that liked part one and two Also, you’ve kind of missed the point of why Netflix asked Snyder to make it this way and instead of understanding, you’re just coming across as very ignorant and entitled You’re owed nothing mate, Netflix is also releasing the full versions later on in the year, so what the F are you even complaining about???? You’re owed NOTHING
@danielkojoarkuyankson8254 well clearly Netflix knows what they’re doing looking at the numbers they’re pulling. And you’re complaining about what exactly? Having to wait a few months longer for an extended cut? Something that’s been common in the film industry for ages now. Pipe down
Rebel Moon Part Two was just... Okay... I mean, I liked the first film better in terms of story, but the second part struggled to bring any new information into this situation, other than the whole princess thing. It was fine to get some backstory for each of the principal characters, but it relied too much on the audience to remember details about the first film. It tried really hard to be the Dune/Avengers Endgame of itself, but I would have liked more focus on explaining why this platoon of intergalactic law enforcement has the technology to resurrect a whole body but can't artificially manufacture simple grains for food... Nonetheless, the resolution that we get from the actual fight was satisfying. It was very clever how the rebels got onto the ship, and the "moon-dwellers" self-actualized and proved themselves to be the unexpected warriors that the lower class needed to fight the unjust system. Hopefully, the princess cliffhanger can tie some loose ends and wrap this story up with more mechanical flow in the story.
@@ssshar2176 Not everything he says is lie and he has every right to hate Grace Randolph so much because he and the general audiences know that she , the sources close to her and people who are subscribers to her TH-cam channel “ beyond the trailer “ are professional liars , they only like what they want to hear and not truth , they’re bunch of mindless bots and they’re completely and utterly useless , do you understand ?
I was entertained, but i keep wondering wtf they do in the editing room? You are right, Justice Legue extended version was a different film, and that's what this feels like. I was entertained, but i just felt like it could have been better from the start?
I was kind of confused at the beginning because the first movie felt like it took place over 2, maybe 3 days. But then this one picks up where the first one ended and we're just days away from the grasshoppers returning for their grain. Which was supposed to be ten weeks. Did they show up early or was the first movie really taking place over a ten week time span? I still don't really understand how time works in this universe, though. They've got cycles, seasons, and weeks. Not sure what any of them actually mean... apart from weeks, I guess, maybe...
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It's like he's afraid to admit that he's not a good director like his other friends. Hell, even Michael Bay admit Transformers 2 was terrible and that took a lot of guts to say that from a guy like him
Just watched this yesterday, and eh... Feels like so much information is missing, like it was intentionally written as a much longer movie and they just took chunks out (just like the first movie). It's not that you can't follow the story, but it constantly feels rushed. I didn't HATE it, but it really needs more everything to be even adequate. I think it would've worked better as a show. Each backstory is an episode. Each battle sequence is an episode. The setup for each battle sequence is an episode. The overall story could've progressed at a more natural pace with all the linking scenes and character moments the movies are missing. That being said, the action sequences were awesome and almost (ALMOST) made up for the rest of it being a drag. I really hope the director's cuts actually make these movies good, or at least okay.
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I was really enjoying it, pretty damn good movie, but I was expecting more at the end, maybe another Belisarius scene or something along those lines. Definitely wanna see more.
If you pay attention to Snyder's filmography you will notice all of his best movies are based on comic books. What I wanna point out with this is that in all of those movies the script was already made and so were the visual shots from the panels so the only thing Zack needed to do is what he does best: focus on the cinematography. Zack Snyder was never a good story teller.
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Rebel Moon Pt 2.... Return of slow motion.... 2 HOURS of slow mo. Bold of Zack Snyder to assume someone would sit through a third movie after that bloated childrens story.
The directors cut of episode 2 was….dare I say….not that bad? Yes, it was a little slow and had some stupid parts. But definitely an improvement from a story standpoint than the original that played on Netflix. Made much more sense with some of the scenes flushed out
I'm a Snyder fan too, but Rebel Moon Pt. 2 just wasn't that great. The first hour was unnecessarily dragged out - I get that it was an effort to get us more emotionally engaged with the characters and the village and lifestyle they're going to defend, but for me it fell flat. The dialogue was really badly written and could easily have been tightened up and livened up ... Snyder's co-writers on the screenplay (Kurt Johnstad and Shay Hatten) have worked on some movies I love ('Atomic Blonde' and 'John Wick 4') so I'm really disappointed that the dialogue was so cheesy and stilted. Having said that, I loved the action scenes which kicked in in the second hour of the movie. 'Rebel Moon' does have a lot going for it - I'm a massive fan of Sofia Boutella and I think the cast overall was very strong, I just wish the script had made me care more about the characters. I'm not going to critcize the slow-mo. For me, it makes watching a Snyder movie kind of like reading a comic, in the sense that it allows you to linger for a moment on particularly gorgeous or significant images. I'll definitely watch the director's cuts when they come out, but I have a feeling they won't solve the problems this movie has for me. But I hope it's a big success, because I want Zack to keep creating. He's done a lot of stuff that I really love and I know there's more of that standard of work in him. Just put him together with the right writers and magic happens.
A directors cut needs to just be the original film with deleted scenes that the studio cut. You have to make the original version as if its the only one anyone will ever see snd if they love it they can watch the directors cut with scenes that were not essential/crucial thrown in
Watching them back to back in one sitting actually makes them better and more flowing tbh, they actually do compliment each other And yeah it’s got some great scenes in it that I really enjoyed
netflix need not to do the two versions again just drop the definitive version the 1st time. if the director cuts are superior than why did u make a inferior version, but thats just me, with that said i did like part 2 and the epic action
It was ok but too fragmented until the final hour of part 2. Certain characters ignored or had too little development. Action sequences were fine and I did not mind some slo mo but that can be overdone. My biggest problem with the movie was the awkward mix of technology. Farms using old fashioned implements but floating platforms to hold the harvest. Advanced weapons found suddenly to arm the village. A coal fired starship with a scene out of titanic in the engine room.. The old fashioned ww2 style rotary dials to aim the big starship guns. He really needed an experienced military sci fi person to get the tech appropriate through out the movie. You just can’t have a starship with workers shoveling coal into furnaces and that’s supposed to be believable. The storyline is strictly the seven samurai or magnificent seven we’re single protagonist assembles a group of warriors who altruistically go to protect a village from an enemy threat. I don’t mind the concept. It’s just the uneven and fragmentation needed better editing
It's a bad movie. All I can think about throughout the entire film is why they didn't just ship those 30 farmers to a different planet, or sell the ship and give each of them the money to move somewhere else. There were only about 30 people in that village.
Honestly I really think they missed the mark by not releasing the extended cut of part 1 before this came out. I probably would have re-watched that version out of curiosity, but now I'm not so sure I'll watch the longer versions of these later. I'll probably just rely on Heavy Spoilers' video about them to get the gist of it. These movies just feel like an overindulgent child's idea of what "cool and hardcore" rather than any sort of sci-fi epic. I know Zack Snyder can make great movies, but I just feel like he's lost touch with what made some of his early movies great and is just pandering to his stans that will eat anything he gives them and call that a masterpiece.
If you like this movie. You shouldn't be able to vote, because you're obviously the reason why Idiocracy is becoming a real thing. You can't be bothered with thinking, you just want to be entertained.
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I love Joss Whedon's JL,so yes, I'm a normie. ;)
I'm wondering what Pepsi your drinking to subjugate your self this much. Next time give us. Fu
Movie feels overproduced and and rushed. Couldn’t get 20 minutes in
Am I the only one watching this video before watching the show itself? If loving heavy spoilers is wrong I don't wanna be right!
I do the same if I haven’t watched the film before the upload 😅
Same here, many times has Heavy Spoilers saved me from wasting time/money on something I'd regret.
It’s a movie
I haven't seen either film but these breakdowns are saving my time being wasted
Your not the only one bro lol
Once again Snyder proves he should not be let near the writing room. All of his movies suffer from when his hands are on the plot and pacing of the story. This is basically a flashy recreation of Seven Samurai but filled with so much unnecessary junk. He’s only useful for producing "cool" visuals, but even then he often goes overboard with things like slo-mo to the point where the overall impact is watered down. Like a child with no impulse control
What are you taking about the only things wrong is Zack Snyder should only release his director cut of films. You really must be out of the loop.
@@randynguyen9778 shut up you Snyder shill
Snyder Darkseid - brain damaged, passes out, wakes up in 5,000 years and can’t remember that Earth is where he got his azz beat.😅
This was the moment that I knew that Snyder was hopeless as writer/director.
@@summertyme5748 What do you mean it explains Uxas lost the Mother Boxes so they couldn't find Earth did you not watch the movie.
Op sounds like me talking about why I dont like Dark Souls 😂
I hope we get more of the robot Jimmy in the directors cut of both part 1 and 2. That character has so much potential. With little we seen from him, I loved.
Zack said it has +30min more screen time in Director’s Cuts
@@SN20999jeesus…even without d 30 mins hes not in, all he does is sit on a rock in tis film looking like a dumb reindeef
@@SN20999both directors cuts are 3 hours so really there’s a whole other movie coming between the 2 of them lol
Ur kidding right lol plz tell me ur being funny
again with the director's cut?!... Take Lord of the rings for example..Now those are director's/ extended cuts!! Both theatrical n Entended versions are great!.. Which this RM absolutely ain't... U saying the reason the original ain't good coz it ain't a true vision?well most can't accept that excuse... The theatrical LOTR were ALREADY Jackson's vision of Tolkien stories comes to life...but made BETTER with the extended cuts! Rebel Moon on the other hand...
Can’t get over how unrealistic that the planets are sooooo close together that nature does not smash them together?! In the scene where the baddie spaceship flies between 3 planets … the massive red gas planet is static … not one mini swirl at all…. The big craft crashing into the ground ….. that impact would wipe out the village ….. I know it’s fantasy but ….
Imagine if someone made this same argument to star wars.
Thank you for your service. I’ve not suffered through it yet but intend to
lol hope you enjoy it
@@heavyspoilersok. 20 mins in. It’s hilarious
Rubbish
@@Grace37570 Don't be stvpid and ¡gnorant.
Figured out its issue with it's narrative...if it was a linear story it would be far far better rather than flash back and exposition discussions...seeing those origin stories in part one then as each rebel against the Imperium they find each other until a final battle on the moon. We would have got much more on board with each character. Thoughts?
That makes a lot of sense. Get us invested in the individual characters first, them introduce us to the world and develop the main story, with the individual characters we already know entering as normal. Much better format.
Given how Snyder had to essential repackage two 3+ hour rated R movies into two 2 hour PG-13 movies, I can see a situation where he had to take whole sequences and splice them in elsewhere or move them to a different movie to adequately get the story beats to at least make sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the director's cuts don't just add missing scenes, but somewhat repackage how the story is presented.
Wow, so it turns out that after all this time, all I ever really needed was a montage. Thank you, Paul.
Fun review as always!
Even his interview needs a solid edit
Did we get a Daario vs Daario fight atleast in the movie?
I hate watching a “movie” that leaves me disappointed in myself for wasting my time.
some of y’all swear snyders sins are that of GOT. i know when i watch a shyamalan movie it won’t have a solid ending. there are certain writers/directors you should already know what to expect.
Question:
Who forced you to watch this film? If you saw the first one and were disapointed, why bother watching the sequel if you knew what came before?
@@sizweshongwe7312it’s bizarre, the amount of people that watches things they know they’re gonna dislike but still do anyway and then moan about it
It’s like running into a brick wall and complaining that the wall was solid brick….
It’s actually so stupid
@@sizweshongwe7312 I guess the same person that forced you to read and respond to my comment. 🤣🍻
Or are we only supposed to leave a comment if we had a positive view of the movie?
@@TheRealReVeLaTioN you didn't really answer my question?
Why would you watch it if you knew what kind of film came before?
-The overuse of slowmo in both movies had me bored. 30-40 mins of slowmo of farming…like why?
-Part 2 felt like part 1, just rewrote. The acts were pretty much the same: home field, invasion, boss fight. And the boss fight was the same characters in the first one.
-The bullet impacts look like a rip off of Lilo and Stitch with liquid-like animation.
-Not a fan of the crazy bokeh they used with the swirl/circular effect was just awful.
-I never felt like any of the main characters were ever in any real danger.
-no real character growth for anybody
I am a simpleton not a critic. For me it was a good film. Loved it actually.
I think either way, whoever idea was to split it. Netflix and Zach are both to blame. I in they should’ve just thought about putting a good movie out first and then make plans later.
Blame…. Blame for what exactly??? What’s happened?!?
People online live in their own little bubble to the point where they skew reality
FYI, Part 3 is being worked on…
So what’s being blamed on anyone and why do Netflix and Snyder need to take blame??
Please expand on this as it seems like you believe there is some type of crisis happening??
Ray Fisher marketed the hell out of these movies just to have 15 mins and then get replaced by a lesser known character 😂😂
Ray Fisher is lucky there’s at least one director in hollywood stupid enough to cast him
did anyone catch the female robot in the directors cut when they go out the bar with the pilot guy? it seemed like it was a imperial robot. but idk if there was any follow up to it.
Nice one Mr. Spoilers, some gymnasists wouldn't attempt that Jar-Jar stretch. Absolute mad lad.
Leave it up to Zac Snyder to turn 45 minutes of footage into a 2 hour movie
How pessimistic
I really liked what was filmed
Sorry you hated it so much, you can leave now and focus on something you do like 🤷♂️
@@Vegan_Photographs I don't hate it, just wished there was something more. He wants to create more in this universe, unfortunately I don't think it warrants more after two films.
This was definitely better than part 1 with the real action being the back half. However, character work is still a problem with those like the sword lady having her story end here with relative ease, noticeably leaving the ploy for supplement material to fill in what came prior on her revenge tour.
HOLY shit. A 13% critic and 47% audience score. That means this garbage was worst than the last. Who here is giving Zack Snyder work lol? Hollywood stopped. Anyone who likes his work must be the type that likes anything, probably the type that is easily amused by CW shows and things the Fast Furious franchise is Oscar worthy.
@@God-k5bwhy have you copy and pasted this reply??? How utterly weird
Well, her arc in the overall story which will be released later on this year is far more fully fleshed out
However, I still wouldn’t say that what was made is ‘lacking character’ throughout the movie as some people state, I really think thats not really a valid reason to say the movie is bad as there is lots of character development in it
But for some reason if some characters are lacking full development (as all movies do) Snyders movies always get torn down for this even though Kora, Noble, her BF, and others have enough screen time to understand who they are
You simply cannot give every single character the screen time in what some of the critics are stating
That’s just this way with every single movie that’s ever been made
Question, is there ANY character development within part 1 and 2…
YES
and if anyone states otherwise, I genuinely believe it’s such a bad opinion simply cause enough currently exists to still make the movie work
Really??? I beg to differ, this was shit. Part 1 was much better!!!!
@@Vegan_PhotographsDon’t mind this ass lickers, part 2 is actually better than one
Just watched both director cuts and I thought they were a lot better than the normal versions. Thanks for the video!
"Also I wondered if Issa was a Star Wars reference cos…cos Jar Jar used to say it all the time."
Have to make that Star Wars connection 🤣🤣
it's all connected
It's two types of people in this world.
1.Those who are snyder fans
2. Those who have functioning brain matter ..
Don't be stvpid and ¡gnorant.
I'll just watch the spoilers rather than part 2. 😂
youre so much better off
Ya I just watched it.... you made the right choice here.
Like Paul said there's not much reason to watch these movies knowing there's going to be a director's cut for both in a few month. I wish I didn't watch either one because they really do feel like repackaged lesser products of something better.
@@vinyfiny I don't see any way to redeem these crap movies. He is going to add even more slo mo pointless scenes. Was his justice league better? Sure but it wasn't good. Also I don't get why he keeps agreeing to release versions of movies that aren't what he wanted.
@@traviso7810 I mean Zach explained exactly why there's more than one version of these movies in the video. He got to make the movies he wanted, but only if he made these bastardized versions as well. Choose your battles I guess.
Like Paul said, you know if you like Zach Snyder movies or not. He's pretty consistent with how he makes movies so if that isn't your cup of tea then no need to waste your time being disappointed. I like his movies, and I liked the potential of these movies, so I'm looking forward to the director's cuts. I doubt they'll be modern cinematic classics, but entertaining will suffice for me. I personally thought the Justice League Director's Cut was fantastic, so I guess I'm much more likely to enjoy Snyder movies than you.
If you don't like the Rebel Moons at all, then don't watch the director's cuts. They're just movies, it's not a big deal. I'm sure a bunch of my friends and family have no interest in watching any of these movies and never will, and that's perfectly fine.
Great video!!!! Keep it up!!!
I’m honestly a bit concerned about how some people didn’t appreciate this movie. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. The slow pacing really allowed the film to dive deep into every tiny detail-like the way she cuts her hair or the meticulous way she turns the mega cannon to the ship’s bridge. It wasn’t just about the big moments; the backgrounds and small touches really added to the storytelling. It felt like a true masterpiece.
But I’m starting to think that maybe people who are so used to fast-paced content-like reels and TH-cam shorts-might be missing the point. This kind of film isn’t for everyone, and that’s okay, but I just wish people would take the time to appreciate the depth here. Honestly, if you're going to watch it, the director's cut for both parts is the way to go. It’s such a better experience. I just hope more people can open themselves up to this kind of cinema. It deserves to be seen in the right way.
Part 2 has a ridiculous amount of over the top PG-13 & WTF moments.
My "favorite" WTF moments, the Scargiver reaches the engine room, which uses coal (!?), yes, warp/FTL + the nuke-cannon that need coal to be fueled, and the, what, central core of the ship, is a big robot head, it has a face, it's kinda sentient (!?), and nothing is explained: W... T... F... is going on here??? 😂
Not criticizing just letting you it not coal it organic material
@@orod22492
And?? AND???
I actually liked this one
visuals were nice, acting was fine and the movie looked more complete
Nothing amazing like Dune 2, but it still is a descent movie imo
kudos to Snyder for trying to make another cinematic universe, but if he really wants to continue his world, he needs a better writer
regardless, it was worth a watch, 7/10
HOLY shit. A 13% critic and 47% audience score. That means this garbage was worst than the last. Who here is giving Zack Snyder work lol? Hollywood stopped. Anyone who likes his work must be the type that likes anything, probably the type that is easily amused by CW shows and things the Fast Furious franchise is Oscar worthy.
wat did u like? d 40 mins of harvesting grain? d reli hideous costumes n hairstyles, d random singing, d contrived love plotlines, d robot on a rock, d highly advanced space army who loves bread so much all they want is grain, what on earth couldve like about tis crap? djimon slow mo harvesting grain?
Acting was wat ????! lol this shit was fucking horrible lad and the acting was cringy again lol visuals ??? Nothing made sense. lol
@@Mike-vo9teget a fucking life man, you’re literally moaning at someone case they chose to enjoy something rather than being weird and angry at someone that’s simply made something
Your reply is so weird
I liked it too. Don’t really care if critics or other people didn’t. Last hour is nothing but action and i enjoyed it. The slo-motion never bothered me. Idk why people are watching Snyder films if they don’t like slo-mo. He’s not going to change his style
Look i understand that its not like "amazing" but i really dont get why it gets SO much hate...
I don’t get it either! I really liked them both.
At which time mark is the talk about the director's cut?
Thank you for the breakdown I fell asleep 😴 within the first hour 😅
For movies like this I depend on heavy spoilers to help me decide if I should see it. Bless you Paul!
The “most powerful warrior in the galaxy” that hasn’t shown any skill difference compared to the other big dogs… except the enemy’s storm trooper aim
I couldn’t agree more. It’s like the writer forgot the main character was supposed to be the superhero and the robot was really to me. Useless like what was up with the tattered cape like cape and the crown and the Superman flying like robot he just stood around, watched and only helped a little bit.😂
I just finished watching it - so bad - did anyone else feel like there was a ton of stuff related to the robot James that was cut out from both movies? I feel like he was supposed to be some central through line for the whole thing and it just got cut.
I feel that way about most of the characters.
Thank you South Park for the montage song
The director’s cut should have come out first then the PG-13 version months later.
They made him cut out the why of his vision and he knows it. He knows it is an awful approach, he smile, he takes it, whoever ruinous for the present but he takes it to make it. Thats really sad it is almost tear worthy.
Sadly capital gain always trumps artistic expression so studios will always butcher releases in order to make them more "accessible". So these directors cuts are the only way to get the uncensored versions.
I'm all excited and hyped for REBEL MOON 2,3 I find it exciting entertaining Brilliant extremely impressive full of excitement and a Masterpiece Epic. I loved it
Thanks Paul.
Wish dune had a release schedule like this
Zach was in talks with my cousin to make a comic book called Cobalt 60 which wud have been this movie. In the end he ended up giving up on it after the superhero fatigue set it on the world i thought zach wud have given him the call but he made this dumpster fire instead. Please look this up and do a video on this maybe
Well I've just finished watching Rebel Moon 1 & 2 on Netflix via Zack Snyder. Myself and my wife really liked both parts. Was it Oscar worthy, no but both movies were engaging. One of the tests I like to use is the time. And honestly both were over quickly regardless of the over 2 hrs each. That is a big plus entertainment wise. As to grading both... it really can not be done as both are really chapters in a bigger story / universe. So I'm in hopes that Netflix gives the go ahead for more "chapters".
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The farmers moon or place reminds me a lot Nagrand from world of Warcraft .
Haters after part 1: there was no background to the characters and no character development.
Same haters after part 2: it was a chore to sit through the background of each character. Why do they show the life in the village for an hour?
True story.
Personally I can’t wait until they introduce Turbo and Ozone!
Bozo and Turbine
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I watched this movie at 1.5x the speed and somehow the slow motion STILL worked. Good lord!
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Just give us the uncut version ..netflix really just need to give the fans what we want snyder uncut R then we can see if this movie really good ...at the moment its like a shoddy relationship
I know a few people that liked part one and two
Also, you’ve kind of missed the point of why Netflix asked Snyder to make it this way and instead of understanding, you’re just coming across as very ignorant and entitled
You’re owed nothing mate, Netflix is also releasing the full versions later on in the year, so what the F are you even complaining about????
You’re owed NOTHING
PG-13 version is more palatable to a wider audience and gives it a better chance of getting a part 3. Made sense from a business perspective
@@Vegan_Photographs well then I just cancel netflix thanks ya right ..
@danielkojoarkuyankson8254 well clearly Netflix knows what they’re doing looking at the numbers they’re pulling. And you’re complaining about what exactly? Having to wait a few months longer for an extended cut? Something that’s been common in the film industry for ages now. Pipe down
Rebel Moon Part Two was just... Okay... I mean, I liked the first film better in terms of story, but the second part struggled to bring any new information into this situation, other than the whole princess thing. It was fine to get some backstory for each of the principal characters, but it relied too much on the audience to remember details about the first film. It tried really hard to be the Dune/Avengers Endgame of itself, but I would have liked more focus on explaining why this platoon of intergalactic law enforcement has the technology to resurrect a whole body but can't artificially manufacture simple grains for food... Nonetheless, the resolution that we get from the actual fight was satisfying. It was very clever how the rebels got onto the ship, and the "moon-dwellers" self-actualized and proved themselves to be the unexpected warriors that the lower class needed to fight the unjust system. Hopefully, the princess cliffhanger can tie some loose ends and wrap this story up with more mechanical flow in the story.
I had no idea this was even out
They’ve done a terrible job marketing this
I know who you are because you’re subscriber to beyond the trailer and you’re so afraid to trust James Gunn
@@ahmadmohammed4415I don’t like Gunn. He’s a known liar and he is misogynistic towards Grace 😕
@@ssshar2176 Not everything he says is lie and he has every right to hate Grace Randolph so much because he and the general audiences know that she , the sources close to her and people who are subscribers to her TH-cam channel “ beyond the trailer “ are professional liars , they only like what they want to hear and not truth , they’re bunch of mindless bots and they’re completely and utterly useless , do you understand ?
Good Emperor of Man Kind, they have an Exterminatus scene. 😂
Just finished watching the movie. Can someone take Snyder's keys to his director's chair off him? He's quite obviously directing under the influence 😂
I was entertained, but i keep wondering wtf they do in the editing room? You are right, Justice Legue extended version was a different film, and that's what this feels like. I was entertained, but i just felt like it could have been better from the start?
I was kind of confused at the beginning because the first movie felt like it took place over 2, maybe 3 days. But then this one picks up where the first one ended and we're just days away from the grasshoppers returning for their grain. Which was supposed to be ten weeks. Did they show up early or was the first movie really taking place over a ten week time span?
I still don't really understand how time works in this universe, though. They've got cycles, seasons, and weeks. Not sure what any of them actually mean... apart from weeks, I guess, maybe...
I kinda figured they returned early due to the fight at the end of the first one since the imperium knew they were rebelling
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Why can't he just give the directors cuts a rest 😂
It's like he's afraid to admit that he's not a good director like his other friends. Hell, even Michael Bay admit Transformers 2 was terrible and that took a lot of guts to say that from a guy like him
I'm looking forward towards REBEL MOON 2,3
Just watched this yesterday, and eh... Feels like so much information is missing, like it was intentionally written as a much longer movie and they just took chunks out (just like the first movie). It's not that you can't follow the story, but it constantly feels rushed. I didn't HATE it, but it really needs more everything to be even adequate.
I think it would've worked better as a show. Each backstory is an episode. Each battle sequence is an episode. The setup for each battle sequence is an episode. The overall story could've progressed at a more natural pace with all the linking scenes and character moments the movies are missing.
That being said, the action sequences were awesome and almost (ALMOST) made up for the rest of it being a drag. I really hope the director's cuts actually make these movies good, or at least okay.
Totally agree. Totally money driven by Netflix. Feel let down.
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I enjoyed Part 2 more. Listen, I didn't go in with high expectations but it was entertaining.
I like directors cuts but people’s attention span isn’t large enough for them anymore
Directors cut is not yet been released
I was really enjoying it, pretty damn good movie, but I was expecting more at the end, maybe another Belisarius scene or something along those lines. Definitely wanna see more.
He's a visual story teller and he just has no grip of narrative
If you pay attention to Snyder's filmography you will notice all of his best movies are based on comic books.
What I wanna point out with this is that in all of those movies the script was already made and so were the visual shots from the panels so the only thing Zack needed to do is what he does best: focus on the cinematography.
Zack Snyder was never a good story teller.
Isn't that what I said?
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It's great together. We need the R cut lol 🔥🎬
Hated Pt1 so I’m waiting for the extended versions before watching 2
I think his 4 or 6 movies comments means parts 1 and 2 with directors cuts (4), or 3 parts with directors cuts (6)
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Rebel Moon Pt 2.... Return of slow motion.... 2 HOURS of slow mo. Bold of Zack Snyder to assume someone would sit through a third movie after that bloated childrens story.
On jre. He gave a round about way of saying Netflix wanted a buy one get in free deal. Honestly feel like I am getting ripped off for my time
The directors cut of episode 2 was….dare I say….not that bad? Yes, it was a little slow and had some stupid parts. But definitely an improvement from a story standpoint than the original that played on Netflix. Made much more sense with some of the scenes flushed out
I'm a Snyder fan too, but Rebel Moon Pt. 2 just wasn't that great. The first hour was unnecessarily dragged out - I get that it was an effort to get us more emotionally engaged with the characters and the village and lifestyle they're going to defend, but for me it fell flat. The dialogue was really badly written and could easily have been tightened up and livened up ... Snyder's co-writers on the screenplay (Kurt Johnstad and Shay Hatten) have worked on some movies I love ('Atomic Blonde' and 'John Wick 4') so I'm really disappointed that the dialogue was so cheesy and stilted. Having said that, I loved the action scenes which kicked in in the second hour of the movie. 'Rebel Moon' does have a lot going for it - I'm a massive fan of Sofia Boutella and I think the cast overall was very strong, I just wish the script had made me care more about the characters. I'm not going to critcize the slow-mo. For me, it makes watching a Snyder movie kind of like reading a comic, in the sense that it allows you to linger for a moment on particularly gorgeous or significant images. I'll definitely watch the director's cuts when they come out, but I have a feeling they won't solve the problems this movie has for me. But I hope it's a big success, because I want Zack to keep creating. He's done a lot of stuff that I really love and I know there's more of that standard of work in him. Just put him together with the right writers and magic happens.
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A directors cut needs to just be the original film with deleted scenes that the studio cut. You have to make the original version as if its the only one anyone will ever see snd if they love it they can watch the directors cut with scenes that were not essential/crucial thrown in
I would add that your recap of Part 1 would be the preferred way to actually watch Part 1.
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I actually enjoyed Part Two (especially the last hour of it).
Watching them back to back in one sitting actually makes them better and more flowing tbh, they actually do compliment each other
And yeah it’s got some great scenes in it that I really enjoyed
netflix need not to do the two versions again just drop the definitive version the 1st time. if the director cuts are superior than why did u make a inferior version, but thats just me, with that said i did like part 2 and the epic action
It was ok but too fragmented until the final hour of part 2. Certain characters ignored or had too little development.
Action sequences were fine and I did not mind some slo mo but that can be overdone.
My biggest problem with the movie was the awkward mix of technology. Farms using old fashioned implements but floating platforms to hold the harvest. Advanced weapons found suddenly to arm the village. A coal fired starship with a scene out of titanic in the engine room.. The old fashioned ww2 style rotary dials to aim the big starship guns. He really needed an experienced military sci fi person to get the tech appropriate through out the movie. You just can’t have a starship with workers shoveling coal into furnaces and that’s supposed to be believable.
The storyline is strictly the seven samurai or magnificent seven we’re single protagonist assembles a group of warriors who altruistically go to protect a village from an enemy threat. I don’t mind the concept. It’s just the uneven and fragmentation needed better editing
It's a bad movie. All I can think about throughout the entire film is why they didn't just ship those 30 farmers to a different planet, or sell the ship and give each of them the money to move somewhere else. There were only about 30 people in that village.
I just finished watching part 2 I loved it I thought it was awesome
Nemesis had a cool character design but yeah that’s really where it ends for me
Surprised no one is taking about both Darios fighting it out - pretty meta
LOL totally forgot he was dario!!! great catch
The concept is good… has a great cast, visuals, production. Did enjoy it… but yes it needs a better writing.
What's up with all the bot comments?
i thought it was good I mean, I'm sure I could put up to the challenge against the last star wars trilogies and lets not the budget in comparision
And who else had their hopes up for the Princess’ survival?
He left us cliff-handled
Honestly I really think they missed the mark by not releasing the extended cut of part 1 before this came out. I probably would have re-watched that version out of curiosity, but now I'm not so sure I'll watch the longer versions of these later. I'll probably just rely on Heavy Spoilers' video about them to get the gist of it.
These movies just feel like an overindulgent child's idea of what "cool and hardcore" rather than any sort of sci-fi epic. I know Zack Snyder can make great movies, but I just feel like he's lost touch with what made some of his early movies great and is just pandering to his stans that will eat anything he gives them and call that a masterpiece.
Snyder is a good director, but it depends on his source material. His own writing is way to derivative of other better films that it just doesn't hit.
This is perfect video
I loved REBEL MOON 1,2
Jar Jar Binks sayd Meesa as in Me as in myself. He didn't say Isa.
10 minutes of people harvesting wheat in slow motion - peak Snyder!!!
If you like this movie. You shouldn't be able to vote, because you're obviously the reason why Idiocracy is becoming a real thing. You can't be bothered with thinking, you just want to be entertained.