I hope this artificial director's cut hype scheme isn't a trend that catches on, Apple TV is doing the same thing with Napoleon. I agree, it's seems that studios have appropriated the "other-cut" physical media marketing scheme to their digital streaming networks. The gimmick is contrived and manipulative - a total turn-off.
Oh yeah, slowly building up the lore, it is big and even the PG-13 rate doesn't make it less griddy and I love it. It is an entire universe in set-up, not a standalone movie, full characters development would be a 10 hours movie, but building them slowly with some flashbacks time by time is a way to not bore us to deaths.
I think the most impressive thing about this movie how amazing Djimon Hounsou still looks as that dude is now pushing 60. For some frame of reference, he's the same age as Russell Crowe and they were both in the Gladiator together
If that was not CGI then damn this man is in shape. On the other hand Russell Crowe has let himself go big time. If this can happen to Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant of the True Emperor Marcus Aurelius, then... well, you know the rest.
@@Vegan_Photographs no it’s like I understand they made good movies AND directors cuts for decades, they didn’t put 1000 characters in one movie, strip all of them of their scenes worth any character development, stitch together a 3 hour zombie they call a movie, just to gaslight us all into thinking the movies shitty form of release is some cool retro past time gimmick, “the gaming community,” more like people who don’t want to pay full price for a half developed product just to be told they have to pay for the actual one later
@@Bustaperizm yes I am just so I can give you a good example of how you can have read an opinion without thinking anyone cares about your disagreement 😂
Do the critics like anything anymore? They seem to be going all in on bashing this one. Not sure if you can rely on critics any more, see the movie and make your own mind up!
My biggest flaw with this movie was how carelessly they flaunted their rebellion-- let's just talk in full volume about this and expect no repercussions. Add to that how half the characters signed up for the fight without even a conversation or any sort of subtle teasing through dialogue to see if they'd be interested. Like "hey wanna take down these baddies?" "Sure, but let me do this boss fight first." No teasing out the mission and seeing if they bite, no "I hate them but don't want to fight" -- only djimon honsu had any sort of meaningful pushback but then he did absolutely nothing after
I would say most of the places they visited was the outer realm of the Mother world, where they were far away from the central government. There is not much rulership of the Mother World there. The evidence is that you do not see any sign of Mother World solider or administrative organization nor policemen. Area like this usually do not really being loyal to the Mother world.
They were in the outer reaches, like Tatooine in Star Wars, or Lothal. Even at the end they took the destroying of the mothership attack group as a victory, a victory that would rally more to their cause. Once the "invincible" military is defeated, it brings out others to their cause.
@@Archaon-the-EverChosen Ok then if there is little to no Imperial presence, we should get more insight into why these people signed up so willingly. I get that we will in flashbacks or whatever later, but it's just weird to me how easy it was. Who knows maybe there will be more dialogue in the extended cut
I agree with you about that. Especially when they were outside the "bar" and she turns around and days it like it's no big deal. I was like wha? Don't they care that someone might hear them and report back or something? That was weird to me. But I really enjoyed the movie and so did husband. Looking forward to part two.
Agreed. They kept talking about the “insurrectionists” but they hadn’t even done anything yet. Other than talking they literally did nothing. And all of a sudden she’s the most wanted person in the galaxy yet she could walk around and talk to people with zero concern? Just crap
if snyder woulds stop using slow mo for shots that don't need it, he could actually then have the time to fit a story into the normal runtime, you know like other directors have been doing for decades.
Maybe i'd like it more if it was thrown by the guy we are TOLD is a great farmer, rather then the girl we are TOLD is a great warrior. But that's just me being picky wanting character and story in a movie... @@SillySausage787
I agree about the theory, we'll find out the Princess is actually the young lady that placed the wreath of flowers on the robot and Kora was there to protect her, NOT those "simple farmers" hearing that line like 3x in the movie was nauseating...The robot supposedly was incapable of violence until the moment "the princess" was threatened on the farm. I see myself hate watching part 2 or skipping it for my own sanity. There was so much ripping off of other movies it was difficult to stay focused on this story.
Has potential for an improved cut but they tried to establish way too much in one film... I don't think one film is enough to introduce such a huge universe at its fullest
It’s not marvel, lots of team up movies existed way before marvel and we never had to have solo movies People really need to use their imaginations more, it’s like it’s been beaten out of them by studios
@@Rob-ql2wf I believe they're trying to say to use your imagination to imagine all their backgrounds. IMO I agree with you, it wasn't enough. IMO, other movies which ripped off Seven Samurai, like Magnificent Seven (both the original and the remake), managed to do it better than this movie IMO. Even if he also had to cram in a whole universe, that's still on Snyder for taking that on, and failing (in many people's opinions, not all). Arguably, Battle Beyond the Stars (space Seven Samurai in a non-established galaxy) may have done it better but it's been forever since I've seen it.
@@p-forest Yes I see where you're going, I totally agree of course you can use your imagination, no problem for me, but if done right, this isn't even necessary because the film triggers your imagination by itself and you don't have to wonder what certain elements are supposed to mean
I woke up this morning with no rebel moon breakdown and now my life is is complete. I am really impressed with you the fact that you still put out awesome content with your wife and twins is amazing. When i had my twins I could barely keep it together 😂. Give the wife tons of praise cause I know she is working hard and still being fabulous. Merry Christmas my guy and keep being great.
Rebel Moon would have been better suited for a 6-8 episode season. I can see the world building potential that would work if it was done slowly with more detail. The Rebel Moon Universe is so large with a detailed history that does the story a disservice when it is rushed and glossed over. How do the people running the studio and making decisions manage to screw things up on a consistent basis. Where do I send my resume?😉
The movie had a lot of Warhammer stuff in like the Imperial Gaurd . The troops Sam gave water too is South African actors. The blonde troop tells Sam to "Voetsek" which is an Afrikaans word to tell someone in a rude way to go away.
man I really want to see the director's cut, the current version feels like it has a lot of issues with pacing, storytelling and character development (maybe a 4hr snyder cut would fix that lol), also a lot of the fight scenes feel like they'd be better if rated R.
The threat was not realised and the stakes were not high enough. The main characters were not fleshed out. The main villain had no gravitas to speak of. D-. 😢
Great thoughts on this movie and the industry in general. I didn’t hate this version, but I have a feeling the director’s cut will fix the issues I felt it had. Hopefully Netflix will get the picture and not try to double dip in the future. Great job to Paul and the rest of the Heavy Spoilers team.
I mean, if there wasn’t a longer cut and this was all it was, I would honestly be fine with it, the issue now is people honestly are overly sensitive and critical of things that’s actually fine,fun, a good time, average
It would need an effing miracle, the movie is a big pile. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. However, if the director was to cut the movie into little bits, throw it all in the trash can and do it again it might work. The best part in the movie was the heroine Kora scratching into the earth and then smelling it and came to my mind as I watched that, was a critical drinker meme..smells like shyte !😂😂😂
The movie is "A Bugs Life" live action interpretation with the same type of conflict and the protagonist looking for heroes. I hope that part 2 improves the plot and keeps the pace interesting.
Seven Samurai. A Bug’s Life is Pixar’s take on Seven Samurai, just like Rebel Moon is Snyder’s take on Seven Samurai (or on The Last Starfighter, which itself is also a scifi take on Seven Samurai).
@@mabusestestamentYes. This is quite literally a Seven Samurai remake in a sci-fi setting. The Star Wars and many of their rip-offs are just homage level, but this is an overt remake of Seven Samurai, down to both the exact number of, and many of the individual characteristics of the space samurai. And even the “space bandits want the villagers’ grain and are coming back after the harvest to take it” plot line. That’s pretty much why dividing this in the middle doesn’t work. The most important part of the Kurosawa film was the slow exploration of the samurais reasons for helping the villagers and their back stories. They set this up but then cut off right before things start to pay off. At the very least the company that virtually invented the binge drop should have dropped both parts at once. If they somehow managed to get the character backstories and payoff into the second half people might be a bit more forgiving about the shallowness of the first half. But knowing Snyder he probably would ruin it anyway with voiceovers.
@@MarkoBotsaris Personally I didn’t have a problem with any of that. It’s pretty obvious this is just the first half and it does have a climactic confrontation at the end. I’d say who cares, this Netflix version isn’t even the real deal. I’ll wait with my judgment until I’ve seen the full thing. 🍻
Just watched it. Loved it. Surprised there’s to be a “Directors Cut”, thought that Snyder had that worked out with Netflix. I’m disappointed that I watched the limited producers cut.
Makes sense that the other farmer girl is Issa because the robot who refused to fight changed its tune when she was being assaulted. I'm hoping that's the case and the story gets a bit more depth... this part 1 felt so rushed and only Cora received any real character development... even the robot was more developed than most of the other characters... so many other issues with this movie but it wasn't so terrible and I will standby for part II... you can't deny the beauty and creativity... if that's its only positive than it is enough for me
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, everyone wants to see a backstory of each character and they are going to get it. The 1st movie is just setting up what’s to come
Charlie Hunnam confirmed a couple of weeks ago on Virgin radio saying Netflix always wanted 4 films in total so basically part one and two and then the “proper” versions later on..they’re trying to force a Synder cut thing again which won’t happen because that was organic
It wasnt amazing but I wasnt sure what to expect as im a huge Star Wars fan, but I did enjoy it for what it was mind-numbing sci-fi fun. Merry Chrismas everyone🎅🏽 Big ups Def.💯👊🏽
50 mins of slow motion is hard to watch. Why did they land the ship in the city and take the horses when they could have just landed the ship in the village, whole movie was like that. terrible writing
I hope the R version is better, the Spider lady fight was probably my favorite part, there was some bad CGI as well, but I'm glad the spider lady looked great...
I enjoyed the movie. It was good start to a new series and I can’t wait for part 2. It was phenomenal but gave me enough to want more. I felt like we didn’t get all the answers purposefully.
Me too. Yes, there were a bunch of logical inconsistencies, but as with many movies, I think you just suspend disbelief, and I think it can be enjoyed.
It's really strange to me that this movie, with all these characters, that we know nothing about. In a universe, we know not much about. Is getting so much hype and so many versions.
I really liked it. Knowing that the movie was manipulated to capitalize on double dipping aspects just makes it obvious once again that studio greed is a great story killer. Instead of making commitments to a complete story arc, they tell only a small part and wait to see if they get enough viewership to warrant continuing the story. So they ignore the fact that some people won't invest their limited free time and money when there is no guarantee that they will ever get a satisfying ending.
It almost lost me in the first scene with a vag shaped warp hole with a phallic shape coming through it, and again with the extended hug scene shortly after. Besides that and the gratuitous slo-mo riddled throughout the movie, it would have done better to focus on the villains a bit more than making the film a mini anthology hero collect-a-thon. The movie was almost good, I'd say 2.4 out of 5 stars.
Hey @HeavySpoilers! Love your breakdowns! I watched Part 1 and Part 2 of this when it came out on netflix (and thought it was OK at best) and just forced myself to watch the 3+ hour extended cut of this film. Honestly I am not sure it's an improvement. Do you plan on revisiting this or just not worth your time?
The release the snyder cut think only happened, because the replacement director just messaged everything up. This case, it was the original director that made the mess.
It's a good attempt. Il wait for part 2 to see how things tie up. Visually and the world is intriguing. I can see other directors making their own attempts in this universe just like Army of Thieves.
Fun take as always, anticipated and just watched and yeah had some good moments and some good characters, good villain and liked the "resurrection" and invested in Kora....but yeah some cheesy dialogue and influences. Will stay along for the future ride though. Bottom line is tough to stack up in the Dune era.
I understand having a shorter cut when you realize the movie in theatre because to make it profitable, it allows you to play it more times per day but for streaming I don't get it. Why didn't we have the director's cut directly ?
Zac Snyder’s inability to make a single movie, succinctly continues to hurt him as a bankable director. I hear all this stuff about director’s cuts and bloated movies and all I can think of is that Snyder is done after netflix are through with him.
It appears Hollywood has promoted supporting actors to leading roles. I can't remember a time in movies/tv where leads lack any trace of charisma/presence.
Wye aye man Paul, all the best from Jarra 😉 I was so fkn hyped for this but in the end all we got was an over extended, very long winded knockoff star wars trailer. He should of left the slow mo out and we would have an hr trailer. Haway netflix, the Snyder cut buzz can't be recreated. Just give us the intended movie 1st 😩
It was fine. Like NCIS: Sydney fine. We all know how to use the fast-forward function on streamers. I'm still a little lost though why the attack wedge was huge and only had a crew of one. Also like why would you go full thrusters in to dock... no it was fine. This is fine.
I feel like she would have been quicker to protect the young girl if she was indeed the princess...at first it looked like Cora was going to leave and it took a lot of screams to get her to intervene.
I believe that Snyder has a directors cut written into his contract. It felt like there was several key points just missing. Like finding Nemesis, they just show up right where she is with the Jena spider. And for being such a badass, Kora was hella naive with Kai. Either build up that she’s gotten softer after being off world with Gunnar or show Kai manipulating her with some sob story. lol the 2h15m movie felt rushed
I haven’t read the books (guessing there’s books) but I just watched part 1 and I think they are leading you to believe kora killed the king queen and princess for her “step daddy” to be king. But I have feeling that girl that was almost aped (with a r in front) is the princess
I started listening to the novelization of part one on audible - there are 2 chapters that precede where the movie starts off - I haven’t finished the book yet but I think this may fill in the holes for the Zack Snyder cut.
Honestly it wasn't awesome but it didn't suck either, as a sci-fi buff I need more movies like this as I grew up watching Star wars !! The creative and art that went into this was good! Looking forward to next PT
I was not shocked by Dollar Tree Han Solo's heel turn at the end. Hopefully, the directors cut makes that a little better. The world building was decent enough to keep me invested. So here's to a hopefully better cut soon!
Neither was I. When he said he had to drop off cargo and then turned around, that sealed it for me, not sure why it was that particular scene. I was suspicious throughout, but that did it..🤷🏾♀️
I hope they flesh it out and maybe give a movie for each character, the nemesis woman losing her children and becoming an assassin would be interesting
So far, you are the only one that took the time to talk about needing to focus on the director's cut instead of the executive's theatrical cut. So many people are quick to bash the movie because they believe this is the real version. The studio messed up with their greed. It could possibly pay off a little bit by having a family friendly version out. I want to see the version of the movie Zack intended it to be. Even with only a 80 million dollar budget, it still looks better than some 200 million dollar plus movies.
Watched Rebel Moon last night. Genuinely love the idea, characters and where it’s going. Sadly some shoddy writing and plot development along with an unexplained loss of characters that would have been pivotal for the film so far. It’s passable but I am disappointed with a film that could have been much isn’t. Lastly, which idiot thought it was a good idea to have Charlie sport an Irish accent? At a couple of times in the film there was some shonky CGI. I hope Netflix isn’t trying to pull a fast one by making folks deliberately wait for the actual Synder cut.
nope, after! Zack said it will release in summer. Some ppl within his circle saw it and said that vfx and stuff are not ready yet. They polishing the pg-13 part 2 rn, then they'll finish the r-rated cuts
@@gwynbleidd07 wow so u just love going around ruining people’s holidays huh? Not the comment I was expecting lmaooooo. It was good so I’ll be tuned in regardless but Jesus these deadlines and rushing projects are killing my movie spirit
I’ll definitely watch an extended director’s cut on Netflix before part 2 is released. I enjoyed the scifi aspects of the film and welcome more time exploring that universe.
Rebel Moon should’ve been a series instead of a two part movie. It felt rushed and the characters aren’t fleshed out at all. For me personally, it didn’t hold my attention because I kept falling asleep on the movie…🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I really enjoyed it. I saw a lot of sci-fi tropes throughout ( mainly Star Wars) but it worked for me. This would be the second best Disney Star Wars movie after Rogue One
Damn the visuals were 10/10. Need an extended cut. I hope they explore the universe. It sure has lots of potential. Movie felt rushed but better than AOTD.
With that production value would have worked as a kick ass series, one episode each to introduce each character properly. Bring the team together. Have the end fight and then a prologue set up for season 2. Probably would have been epic! As it is, I had no idea what was going and didn’t care about any of the characters when they were captured or died. I actually laughed when it ended. Then watched (fast forwarded) thru 11 minutes of credits to see if there was an end scene. And there wasn’t. So I laughed again.
i really liked it ...... mostly. i really dont like ed skrein, think he is absolutely awful. but i did REALLY like the robot, and the rest of the cast! before i knew there is a dir. cut coming i kept think "damn that part felt rushed", like they tryin to cram 6 hours of movie into 2 hrs, so, very much looking forward to the Dir. cut.
I initially thought they might have left Jimmy alone after his bit in the beginning, but obvs they're coming back. What about the traitor dude though from that same scene? Seems like a big missed opportunity if they do leave him. Hopefully he pulls a Jimmy though and is back in Scargiver
Hoping it was something that could replace the current disaster that is Star Wars post Lucas, but it was like going from a Geo Metro to a Ford Pinto. This movie is a trainwreck, although more watchable than a Transformers Movie.
I was intrigued while watching this movie, but something felt weird. I didn't know about the extended cut. I probably would've waited had I known, but watching this movie, I thought that something was weird, or something was missing. I'm still willing to watch the second one, but I don't want them to pull this kind of stuff again. Just give us the good version of the movie first. It's streaming, it can be as long as needed. I watch this movie over 2 days, no problem. It doesn't even have to be a movie, it can be any series. It also felt like they gave us a lot of backstory in some areas, and not enough others. I guess we'll see what the extended cut brings..
Let us know your thoughts and theories below
Real talk - when is the full version of the Dust in the wind cover coming out?
I hope this artificial director's cut hype scheme isn't a trend that catches on, Apple TV is doing the same thing with Napoleon. I agree, it's seems that studios have appropriated the "other-cut" physical media marketing scheme to their digital streaming networks. The gimmick is contrived and manipulative - a total turn-off.
I enjoyed it but felt a lot was taken out. Should've released the complete version This version did not leave a good impression on people.
Oh yeah, slowly building up the lore, it is big and even the PG-13 rate doesn't make it less griddy and I love it. It is an entire universe in set-up, not a standalone movie, full characters development would be a 10 hours movie, but building them slowly with some flashbacks time by time is a way to not bore us to deaths.
a good build-up, but underwhelming ending
I think the most impressive thing about this movie how amazing Djimon Hounsou still looks as that dude is now pushing 60. For some frame of reference, he's the same age as Russell Crowe and they were both in the Gladiator together
Yeah that's what I thought, he is in amazing shape.
So true he's been taking care of his body
If that was not CGI then damn this man is in shape. On the other hand Russell Crowe has let himself go big time. If this can happen to Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant of the True Emperor Marcus Aurelius, then... well, you know the rest.
They used double bodies, but the guy is in great shape yes👌🏾
Black don’t crack
“Directors cut” is a nice name for a Movie DLC
We're already conditioned to unfinished products.
Jesus, here comes the gaming community…
It’s like you don’t understand the decades worth of directors cuts from tye many directors within Hollywood
@@Vegan_Photographs no it’s like I understand they made good movies AND directors cuts for decades, they didn’t put 1000 characters in one movie, strip all of them of their scenes worth any character development, stitch together a 3 hour zombie they call a movie, just to gaslight us all into thinking the movies shitty form of release is some cool retro past time gimmick, “the gaming community,” more like people who don’t want to pay full price for a half developed product just to be told they have to pay for the actual one later
@user-dm2nx4yu5o Fine. DLC is just videogame director's cuts. Happy?
@@Bustaperizm yes I am just so I can give you a good example of how you can have read an opinion without thinking anyone cares about your disagreement 😂
The lack of character development hurt this film. There were not enough interactions between the main characters to care about them that much.
Have you seen the part 2 teaser? There will also be an extended cut.
I think the second part and the extended cut will fix that
Shut up
Do the critics like anything anymore? They seem to be going all in on bashing this one. Not sure if you can rely on critics any more, see the movie and make your own mind up!
But they showed you slo mo scenes for each new character introduced, surely that was cool enough to distract you with how shallow the story is lol
My biggest flaw with this movie was how carelessly they flaunted their rebellion-- let's just talk in full volume about this and expect no repercussions. Add to that how half the characters signed up for the fight without even a conversation or any sort of subtle teasing through dialogue to see if they'd be interested. Like "hey wanna take down these baddies?" "Sure, but let me do this boss fight first." No teasing out the mission and seeing if they bite, no "I hate them but don't want to fight" -- only djimon honsu had any sort of meaningful pushback but then he did absolutely nothing after
I would say most of the places they visited was the outer realm of the Mother world, where they were far away from the central government. There is not much rulership of the Mother World there. The evidence is that you do not see any sign of Mother World solider or administrative organization nor policemen. Area like this usually do not really being loyal to the Mother world.
They were in the outer reaches, like Tatooine in Star Wars, or Lothal. Even at the end they took the destroying of the mothership attack group as a victory, a victory that would rally more to their cause. Once the "invincible" military is defeated, it brings out others to their cause.
@@Archaon-the-EverChosen Ok then if there is little to no Imperial presence, we should get more insight into why these people signed up so willingly. I get that we will in flashbacks or whatever later, but it's just weird to me how easy it was. Who knows maybe there will be more dialogue in the extended cut
I agree with you about that. Especially when they were outside the "bar" and she turns around and days it like it's no big deal. I was like wha? Don't they care that someone might hear them and report back or something? That was weird to me. But I really enjoyed the movie and so did husband. Looking forward to part two.
Agreed. They kept talking about the “insurrectionists” but they hadn’t even done anything yet. Other than talking they literally did nothing. And all of a sudden she’s the most wanted person in the galaxy yet she could walk around and talk to people with zero concern? Just crap
if snyder woulds stop using slow mo for shots that don't need it, he could actually then have the time to fit a story into the normal runtime, you know like other directors have been doing for decades.
facts
You’re telling me you don’t want to see slow mo shots of rice being thrown on a floor?
Maybe i'd like it more if it was thrown by the guy we are TOLD is a great farmer, rather then the girl we are TOLD is a great warrior. But that's just me being picky wanting character and story in a movie... @@SillySausage787
That portal the ship passes through ?? Do they have to get consent from space before they do that ?
Well, I mean they are coming from a place called the "Motherworld".😆
I thought I was tripping when I noticed what that looked like… glad I’m not the only one that noticed that.
😂😂😂.. well, he teased the dongs in the man of steel scene where zod and his Minions were being sent to the phantom zone in krypto..
From the way the soldiers acted like rapey stereotypical villains, I don't think they're big on consent.
Very vaginal...glad I'm not the only one that saw it...
I agree about the theory, we'll find out the Princess is actually the young lady that placed the wreath of flowers on the robot and Kora was there to protect her, NOT those "simple farmers" hearing that line like 3x in the movie was nauseating...The robot supposedly was incapable of violence until the moment "the princess" was threatened on the farm. I see myself hate watching part 2 or skipping it for my own sanity. There was so much ripping off of other movies it was difficult to stay focused on this story.
Has potential for an improved cut but they tried to establish way too much in one film... I don't think one film is enough to introduce such a huge universe at its fullest
It’s not marvel, lots of team up movies existed way before marvel and we never had to have solo movies
People really need to use their imaginations more, it’s like it’s been beaten out of them by studios
@@Vegan_Photographs I don't really get how your answer is related to my comment but your point makes sense nonetheless...
@@Rob-ql2wf I believe they're trying to say to use your imagination to imagine all their backgrounds. IMO I agree with you, it wasn't enough. IMO, other movies which ripped off Seven Samurai, like Magnificent Seven (both the original and the remake), managed to do it better than this movie IMO. Even if he also had to cram in a whole universe, that's still on Snyder for taking that on, and failing (in many people's opinions, not all). Arguably, Battle Beyond the Stars (space Seven Samurai in a non-established galaxy) may have done it better but it's been forever since I've seen it.
@@p-forest Yes I see where you're going, I totally agree of course you can use your imagination, no problem for me, but if done right, this isn't even necessary because the film triggers your imagination by itself and you don't have to wonder what certain elements are supposed to mean
yep its a giant intro movie..
I woke up this morning with no rebel moon breakdown and now my life is is complete. I am really impressed with you the fact that you still put out awesome content with your wife and twins is amazing. When i had my twins I could barely keep it together 😂. Give the wife tons of praise cause I know she is working hard and still being fabulous. Merry Christmas my guy and keep being great.
Bro!! We had two sets of twins. Boy and girl both times. I don't know how he finds the time either.tbf
@@SK4M_Frealthe odds of that are crazy! women are definitely God’s greatest work tho
@@MarcosGarcia-pj3pq yeah i know Bro.💯
Rebel Moon would have been better suited for a 6-8 episode season. I can see the world building potential that would work if it was done slowly with more detail. The Rebel Moon Universe is so large with a detailed history that does the story a disservice when it is rushed and glossed over.
How do the people running the studio and making decisions manage to screw things up on a consistent basis.
Where do I send my resume?😉
The movie had a lot of Warhammer stuff in like the Imperial Gaurd . The troops Sam gave water too is South African actors. The blonde troop tells Sam to "Voetsek" which is an Afrikaans word to tell someone in a rude way to go away.
Seriously when i was watching i was thinking Warhammer way more than Star Wars.
Please tell me I'm not the only one that thought the opening warp portal with dreadnought looked like a Vijayjay?!!
You’re not.
well I mean they do have to go to the lady in the ship in order to open the portal 🌚
man I really want to see the director's cut, the current version feels like it has a lot of issues with pacing, storytelling and character development (maybe a 4hr snyder cut would fix that lol), also a lot of the fight scenes feel like they'd be better if rated R.
The threat was not realised and the stakes were not high enough. The main characters were not fleshed out. The main villain had no gravitas to speak of. D-. 😢
Then you must've hated Dune Part 1
@@ArcticPrimal no Dune is light years ahead and did have chatcter development.
A Veldt is a grassy plain (as in the African veldt). It's often used for farming.
What was glaring to me was in the finale fight she blatantly knocked his teeth out but when Noble was recovered he had perfect gnashers.
Great thoughts on this movie and the industry in general. I didn’t hate this version, but I have a feeling the director’s cut will fix the issues I felt it had. Hopefully Netflix will get the picture and not try to double dip in the future. Great job to Paul and the rest of the Heavy Spoilers team.
Directors cuts don’t help bad films they make good films more enjoyable. If you can’t tell a story in a plus 2 hour film it isint a good film
I mean, if there wasn’t a longer cut and this was all it was, I would honestly be fine with it, the issue now is people honestly are overly sensitive and critical of things that’s actually fine,fun, a good time, average
@@Vegan_Photographsexcept this movie isn't actually fine, fun, a good time, or average.
It would need an effing miracle, the movie is a big pile. You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear. However, if the director was to cut the movie into little bits, throw it all in the trash can and do it again it might work. The best part in the movie was the heroine Kora scratching into the earth and then smelling it and came to my mind as I watched that, was a critical drinker meme..smells like shyte !😂😂😂
Listen to yourself...movies aren't supposed to be fixed by Directors Cuts.
It was way more fun and better than I thought it would be I really really in joyed and looking forward for part 2 !!
The movie is "A Bugs Life" live action interpretation with the same type of conflict and the protagonist looking for heroes. I hope that part 2 improves the plot and keeps the pace interesting.
Seven Samurai. A Bug’s Life is Pixar’s take on Seven Samurai, just like Rebel Moon is Snyder’s take on Seven Samurai (or on The Last Starfighter, which itself is also a scifi take on Seven Samurai).
@@mabusestestamentYes. This is quite literally a Seven Samurai remake in a sci-fi setting. The Star Wars and many of their rip-offs are just homage level, but this is an overt remake of Seven Samurai, down to both the exact number of, and many of the individual characteristics of the space samurai. And even the “space bandits want the villagers’ grain and are coming back after the harvest to take it” plot line. That’s pretty much why dividing this in the middle doesn’t work. The most important part of the Kurosawa film was the slow exploration of the samurais reasons for helping the villagers and their back stories. They set this up but then cut off right before things start to pay off. At the very least the company that virtually invented the binge drop should have dropped both parts at once. If they somehow managed to get the character backstories and payoff into the second half people might be a bit more forgiving about the shallowness of the first half. But knowing Snyder he probably would ruin it anyway with voiceovers.
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Personally I didn’t have a problem with any of that. It’s pretty obvious this is just the first half and it does have a climactic confrontation at the end. I’d say who cares, this Netflix version isn’t even the real deal. I’ll wait with my judgment until I’ve seen the full thing. 🍻
I don’t think Sam is Issa. Otherwise Kora wouldn’t have been willing to abandon the village and leave her behind.
Did you know Issa is the muslin name for Jesus?
Just watched it. Loved it. Surprised there’s to be a “Directors Cut”, thought that Snyder had that worked out with Netflix. I’m disappointed that I watched the limited producers cut.
Makes sense that the other farmer girl is Issa because the robot who refused to fight changed its tune when she was being assaulted. I'm hoping that's the case and the story gets a bit more depth... this part 1 felt so rushed and only Cora received any real character development... even the robot was more developed than most of the other characters... so many other issues with this movie but it wasn't so terrible and I will standby for part II... you can't deny the beauty and creativity... if that's its only positive than it is enough for me
Part 2 teaser seems to have a lot of backstory for each character.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, everyone wants to see a backstory of each character and they are going to get it. The 1st movie is just setting up what’s to come
Not to mention the r rated extended cut that will have an extra hour. I’m sure there’ll be more backstory
@@legacysquid0625 yeah there will be, and if you looked at the teaser for the 2nd movie you can clearly see a backstory to each of the characters
Hope did I miss the teaser for part two? Gotta go check that out now...
@@pb4897 idk how you miss it, it literally pop up after the movie ended.😂😂
Charlie Hunnam confirmed a couple of weeks ago on Virgin radio saying Netflix always wanted 4 films in total so basically part one and two and then the “proper” versions later on..they’re trying to force a Synder cut thing again which won’t happen because that was organic
Im hoping theres more to Kai's story than how they left us. I felt like he has more to offer.
His backstory is he used to be in a hardcore biker gang called the Sons of Anarchy duh 😅😅
He got killed. So, ONLY his backstory is left to tell.
@@gamerbeans7445 never saw a body, just saying 🤷
I honestly don't care.
Look, I’m an unapologetic Snyder fanboys since Dawn of the Dead but holy shit bro… the slow motion shots are fucking ridiculous
It wasnt amazing but I wasnt sure what to expect as im a huge Star Wars fan, but I did enjoy it for what it was mind-numbing sci-fi fun.
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50 mins of slow motion is hard to watch. Why did they land the ship in the city and take the horses when they could have just landed the ship in the village, whole movie was like that. terrible writing
@@TrollTeam6-h3qwhat?
@@TrollTeam6-h3q i hope you will not watch part 2
@@TrollTeam6-h3qstill better than the Disney star wars films. Except for solo. Which is the best of the lot.
@@KestraBeatzI'm not even watching part 1. I watch this video on purpose to ruin it for me.
I hope the R version is better, the Spider lady fight was probably my favorite part, there was some bad CGI as well, but I'm glad the spider lady looked great...
Literally just an adult version of A Bug's Life, but still better than anything in the SW Sequel Trilogy.
Great film.will age really well. Can’t wait for The Directors cut and Part 2
I enjoyed the movie. It was good start to a new series and I can’t wait for part 2. It was phenomenal but gave me enough to want more. I felt like we didn’t get all the answers purposefully.
If your intelligence wasn't insulted by this movie, it is because you are not over-burdened by that characteristic.
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@@Deandre-j6h Thank you. Continue to hate life and I’ll continue to love it. 😊
Me too. Yes, there were a bunch of logical inconsistencies, but as with many movies, I think you just suspend disbelief, and I think it can be enjoyed.
@@Analysta654suspending disbelief doesn’t make up for bad writing
The Imperium should have send a Primacrh :)))) That would be a lot of easier to crush a village or rebel. I think Lion would fit.
Well said.
It's really strange to me that this movie, with all these characters, that we know nothing about. In a universe, we know not much about. Is getting so much hype and so many versions.
People believe that Snyder is actually a genius and makes good movies
Do we know if the extended cut is coming out before part 2?
There is way more that I loved then stuff I didnt
I really liked it. Knowing that the movie was manipulated to capitalize on double dipping aspects just makes it obvious once again that studio greed is a great story killer. Instead of making commitments to a complete story arc, they tell only a small part and wait to see if they get enough viewership to warrant continuing the story. So they ignore the fact that some people won't invest their limited free time and money when there is no guarantee that they will ever get a satisfying ending.
There already is a part 2 so they already are going to continue the story.
Loved it can’t wait for the extended cut & part 2. 👌
yeah 3 hr movie with literally half of it in slow motion and the other half completely unbelievable. movie sucked
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Literally not.
@@TrollTeam6-h3q that's like your opinion mehn... Loved the shit out of it
So Cora saved the princess the girl that gave the robot the flower crown is the lifegiver.
agreed to obvious
Clearly
Thanks for explaining the ending, it really helped considering I turned it off after an hour. 👌
It almost lost me in the first scene with a vag shaped warp hole with a phallic shape coming through it, and again with the extended hug scene shortly after. Besides that and the gratuitous slo-mo riddled throughout the movie, it would have done better to focus on the villains a bit more than making the film a mini anthology hero collect-a-thon. The movie was almost good, I'd say 2.4 out of 5 stars.
Netflix should have released the director's cut simultaneously or at least soon after or simply the extended cuts.
Hey @HeavySpoilers! Love your breakdowns! I watched Part 1 and Part 2 of this when it came out on netflix (and thought it was OK at best) and just forced myself to watch the 3+ hour extended cut of this film. Honestly I am not sure it's an improvement. Do you plan on revisiting this or just not worth your time?
The release the snyder cut think only happened, because the replacement director just messaged everything up. This case, it was the original director that made the mess.
It's a good attempt. Il wait for part 2 to see how things tie up. Visually and the world is intriguing. I can see other directors making their own attempts in this universe just like Army of Thieves.
Disney Bots are the one trying to review bomb Rebel Moon because it has potential to destroy Star Wars.
Fun take as always, anticipated and just watched and yeah had some good moments and some good characters, good villain and liked the "resurrection" and invested in Kora....but yeah some cheesy dialogue and influences. Will stay along for the future ride though. Bottom line is tough to stack up in the Dune era.
I loved this!
this is a 40k fan movie... and I'm all for it!
Same vibe I got bro. And Mark Hamills 40K show is going to be amazing.
No it's not 40k is alot darker.
Don't sully quality like 40k with this dross.
I understand having a shorter cut when you realize the movie in theatre because to make it profitable, it allows you to play it more times per day but for streaming I don't get it. Why didn't we have the director's cut directly ?
I liked it, but the side characters needed more fleshing out
Awesome Theroy about the princess. I just had a epiphany 😁
Really funny episode; thank you! 😂
I am really looking forward to the Snyder Cut that they announced before the first cut was live. Hopefully it is a complete film.
contrary... I am not looking forward to snyder's cut... it''s just a gimmick. ... do it properly the first time.
@@tymesZagree 100%
Zac Snyder’s inability to make a single movie, succinctly continues to hurt him as a bankable director. I hear all this stuff about director’s cuts and bloated movies and all I can think of is that Snyder is done after netflix are through with him.
It appears Hollywood has promoted supporting actors to leading roles. I can't remember a time in movies/tv where leads lack any trace of charisma/presence.
Wye aye man Paul, all the best from Jarra 😉
I was so fkn hyped for this but in the end all we got was an over extended, very long winded knockoff star wars trailer. He should of left the slow mo out and we would have an hr trailer. Haway netflix, the Snyder cut buzz can't be recreated. Just give us the intended movie 1st 😩
Hopkins was good. Looking forward to seeing more his character in the director’s cut.
Imagine watching a LONGER version of this tat?! I fell for part one. Part two can do one…
It was fine. Like NCIS: Sydney fine. We all know how to use the fast-forward function on streamers. I'm still a little lost though why the attack wedge was huge and only had a crew of one. Also like why would you go full thrusters in to dock... no it was fine. This is fine.
NCIS: Sydney is sooooooo boring. Was your comment meant to be sarcastic lol
I feel like she would have been quicker to protect the young girl if she was indeed the princess...at first it looked like Cora was going to leave and it took a lot of screams to get her to intervene.
It's more Warhammer 40k than what people seem to compare this movie to.
Agreed. I think most people don’t know what 40k is. Almost no one I know has ever heard of it.
I believe that Snyder has a directors cut written into his contract. It felt like there was several key points just missing. Like finding Nemesis, they just show up right where she is with the Jena spider. And for being such a badass, Kora was hella naive with Kai. Either build up that she’s gotten softer after being off world with Gunnar or show Kai manipulating her with some sob story. lol the 2h15m movie felt rushed
I haven’t read the books (guessing there’s books) but I just watched part 1 and I think they are leading you to believe kora killed the king queen and princess for her “step daddy” to be king. But I have feeling that girl that was almost aped (with a r in front) is the princess
Yes I believe she is the princess too
I started listening to the novelization of part one on audible - there are 2 chapters that precede where the movie starts off - I haven’t finished the book yet but I think this may fill in the holes for the Zack Snyder cut.
Oh man!
The Director's Cut is a different movie and much, much better.
Honestly it wasn't awesome but it didn't suck either, as a sci-fi buff I need more movies like this as I grew up watching Star wars !! The creative and art that went into this was good! Looking forward to next PT
If your intelligence wasn't insulted by this movie, it is because you are not over-burdened by that characteristic.
It's not even scifi, just like star wars. It's just space fantasy.
I was not shocked by Dollar Tree Han Solo's heel turn at the end. Hopefully, the directors cut makes that a little better. The world building was decent enough to keep me invested. So here's to a hopefully better cut soon!
Neither was I. When he said he had to drop off cargo and then turned around, that sealed it for me, not sure why it was that particular scene. I was suspicious throughout, but that did it..🤷🏾♀️
@pb4897 Likewise, that scene confirmed it, but then when he was like, whatever you do, don't look inside these crates. I was like, wtf, get out!!
@@eazyecoheed16 exactly!
I thought we were done with Snyder Cuts! Omg! But because you’re doing it Paul, I’ll listen. You’re right I’ll wait thank you!
I hope they flesh it out and maybe give a movie for each character, the nemesis woman losing her children and becoming an assassin would be interesting
I have to admit that if I had known there is going to be a directors cut coming out I wouldn’t have bothered to watch this version.
The red priests are the Warhammer 40k adepts mechanicus. Jimmy is part of the Mechanicas Militarum
So far, you are the only one that took the time to talk about needing to focus on the director's cut instead of the executive's theatrical cut. So many people are quick to bash the movie because they believe this is the real version. The studio messed up with their greed. It could possibly pay off a little bit by having a family friendly version out. I want to see the version of the movie Zack intended it to be. Even with only a 80 million dollar budget, it still looks better than some 200 million dollar plus movies.
Watched Rebel Moon last night. Genuinely love the idea, characters and where it’s going. Sadly some shoddy writing and plot development along with an unexplained loss of characters that would have been pivotal for the film so far. It’s passable but I am disappointed with a film that could have been much isn’t. Lastly, which idiot thought it was a good idea to have Charlie sport an Irish accent? At a couple of times in the film there was some shonky CGI. I hope Netflix isn’t trying to pull a fast one by making folks deliberately wait for the actual Synder cut.
So there is an extended cut coming before Pt.2?
nope, after! Zack said it will release in summer. Some ppl within his circle saw it and said that vfx and stuff are not ready yet. They polishing the pg-13 part 2 rn, then they'll finish the r-rated cuts
@@gwynbleidd07 wow so u just love going around ruining people’s holidays huh? Not the comment I was expecting lmaooooo. It was good so I’ll be tuned in regardless but Jesus these deadlines and rushing projects are killing my movie spirit
I’ll definitely watch an extended director’s cut on Netflix before part 2 is released. I enjoyed the scifi aspects of the film and welcome more time exploring that universe.
Great breakdown mate! This movie be wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I dug the taming the giant bird scene.
Snyder is not good at writing dialogues, but he is decent at writing action scenes and worldbuilding. This is an interesting world.
Keep working the youtube void my friend. It seems anytime they can take money they will.
I enjoyed it. Thanks for not doing a Zack Snyder troll job like everyone else.
I really liked it! I thought it was really good
I’m tired of ppl making excuses for Snyder. He doesn’t kno how to properly translate a story into film.
That space portal better calm tf down 😂🤣🤣🤣
Rebel Moon should’ve been a series instead of a two part movie. It felt rushed and the characters aren’t fleshed out at all. For me personally, it didn’t hold my attention because I kept falling asleep on the movie…🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
This should have been a series.
I'm tired of those director cut seriously.
Can I get at least one person to wholeheartedly agree with me that this film was just “A Bugs Life” but in space? 🤔
This was better than what Disney has put out for star wars!
I hate most of Disney Star Wars but this movie was garbage
I really enjoyed it but I had at least 4 occasions where I thought there is way to much slow motion in this
I liked it enough to want to see part two.
I really enjoyed it. I saw a lot of sci-fi tropes throughout ( mainly Star Wars) but it worked for me. This would be the second best Disney Star Wars movie after Rogue One
I loved it!
I loved this movie - looking forward to the director’s cut as well as part 2!
Damn the visuals were 10/10. Need an extended cut. I hope they explore the universe. It sure has lots of potential. Movie felt rushed but better than AOTD.
If your intelligence wasn't insulted by this movie, it is because you are not over-burdened by that characteristic.
@@Deandre-j6hcopy paste comment are u sure ur not a bot?
@user-pv2xy1og8h I either like a movie or not. I don't overindulge myself in things like this because I have other important things to focus on 🙂
With that production value would have worked as a kick ass series, one episode each to introduce each character properly. Bring the team together. Have the end fight and then a prologue set up for season 2.
Probably would have been epic! As it is, I had no idea what was going and didn’t care about any of the characters when they were captured or died. I actually laughed when it ended. Then watched (fast forwarded) thru 11 minutes of credits to see if there was an end scene. And there wasn’t. So I laughed again.
i really liked it ...... mostly. i really dont like ed skrein, think he is absolutely awful. but i did REALLY like the robot, and the rest of the cast! before i knew there is a dir. cut coming i kept think "damn that part felt rushed", like they tryin to cram 6 hours of movie into 2 hrs, so, very much looking forward to the Dir. cut.
I initially thought they might have left Jimmy alone after his bit in the beginning, but obvs they're coming back. What about the traitor dude though from that same scene? Seems like a big missed opportunity if they do leave him. Hopefully he pulls a Jimmy though and is back in Scargiver
Hoping it was something that could replace the current disaster that is Star Wars post Lucas, but it was like going from a Geo Metro to a Ford Pinto. This movie is a trainwreck, although more watchable than a Transformers Movie.
Possible Easter Egg. The Motherworld Flagship looks exactly like the Space Battleship Yamato from Star Chasers, Japanese cartoon from the 80s.
I was intrigued while watching this movie, but something felt weird. I didn't know about the extended cut. I probably would've waited had I known, but watching this movie, I thought that something was weird, or something was missing. I'm still willing to watch the second one, but I don't want them to pull this kind of stuff again. Just give us the good version of the movie first. It's streaming, it can be as long as needed. I watch this movie over 2 days, no problem. It doesn't even have to be a movie, it can be any series. It also felt like they gave us a lot of backstory in some areas, and not enough others. I guess we'll see what the extended cut brings..
If your intelligence wasn't insulted by this movie, it is because you are not over-burdened by that characteristic.