Lucifer: "So Demi-Fiend, i will test you, show me your true power!" *Some time later* Lucifer: "By the way, why is the Devil Hunter i hired hitting me there while you stand watching?"
A definite step up from "Dante doesn't get to participate in the fight because his sword can't cut deep enough for Lucifer to feel it so instead we brought his cooler clone in to do all the work for him" like in OG Maniax. Proud of him.
Uhh no to Naoki it was a test to see if he's able to kill YHVH or not. Lucifer (the true lucifer) as shown in smt 2 is the dark counter part of YHVH. He's slightly weaker than him. If demi fiend can best lucifer no problem. He can best YHVH no problem. And as for Dante. Even dmc5 smt version of events would destroy him.
@@jackour8167 yet naoki failed in defeating yhvh also there is an interview that suggests Steven and mido are pretty comparable to each other and it took nanashi Flynn aleph smt 1 protagonist and naoki to take Steven and mido even said he could not handle dante's power when you attempt to fuse him with another demon
You guys are wanking Dante way too much. This Dante has nothing to do with main series Dante, you guys need to chill. YHVH is at least 9th dimensional, which is four orders of infinity above multiverse level (thanks to apocalypse showing the brane layers).
@@kennethlatorre5269 yes but this dante is still stupid as fuck and technically you can still argue they are same after all dante has made two appearances in this series
Eh, all you're doing is giving him more ideas for future human disguise names. I half imagine his next incarnation as a blonde loli with heterochromatic eyes in a gothic dress and having angel and devil puppets on her hands (Made to resemble cutesy versions of angelic and devil Lucifer forms respectively). As for what her name will be? Lucy Fahr.
it's funny because in spanish, there's a name called "fernanda" and other called "lucia", if you combine them, first one lucia and second one fernanda, and you short the name for easier naming, it will be "lucifer" lol
THE LUCIFER VOICE IS AMAZING, they truly captured that ominous presence that Lucifer conveyed, straight to the final transformation. I'm so damn excited to see what SMT V has to offer.
@@MrSuperbeast92 I'm currently still on my first playthrough, in the last area, the game has been so addicting, that I've spent a literal month on it, and haven't touched anything else. I'm also at 115 hours? It's honestly a blast, just exploring, doing quests and getting to know the areas, I love the direction they're going with the wide scale exploration. The essence system also has vast diversity, for both demons and Nahobino, it really lets you sit to craft your own builds and everything. The cutscenes are amazing, music is absolutely beautiful, and it's just wide spread. I'm definitely going back to do every route this time around, SMT V is just what I needed, and was worth the wait, to me, my goty
Snake: "Colonel! What kind of nonsense are you saying? It feels like I'm speaking to the Devil himself!" Otacon: "S-snake! But that's the Devil indeed!!!" Lucifer: "Kept you waiting, huh?" *Connection lost* Otacon: "Snake! Snake, can you hear me?! SNAAAAAAAAKE!"
the thing that really makes this fight tough that no guide seems to mention is that Root of Evil has a Dekaja effect to it. if he Dekundas into Root of Evil then High King the next turn, you're basically 100% screwed.
Really late i know, but its not the worst part, root of evil can leave you at 10% of health and just a double attack on demi its a game over, this fight itsjust rng, they should make root of evil a last turn move otherwise its just bs. Btw, he is playing the maniax versión so root of evil don't have the dejaka effect
Lucifer in Nocturne was just straight up The Dark Side of God and the Shadow of Creation. Bar SMT V's Lucifer, Nocturne Lucifer held far more metaphysical weight compared to his other SMT versions.
@@Sharlatans unironically, Lucifer in 3 wasn't near as weak and incapable as the others. Kagutsuchi in particular, is capable of destroying and creating entire worlds. Even YHVH can't do that. And according to IV, he'd rather destroy humanity than the entirety of the world. And that's proven further in SMTII when it's a plot point that he can't wipe out all life on earth. Instead, he charges up a massive space laser to wipe out the life on earth, not even earth itself. Kagutsuchi by himself has done all that and more with sheer power. And Lucifer here is far stronger than Kagutsuchi.
@@bogus8591 True true. Btw, is SMT 2-4 connected like some people are saying, and if so, then how does Satan's existence work? Since apparently, 4 is an alternate route of 2, and 4A is an alternate route of 4, so wouldn't that mean that Satan is simultaneously made up of Luci&Merkabah, and at the same time a separate, independent entity from them entirely.
I mean the only benefits you’re getting by purchasing the Maniax DLC is getting a reskin of Raidou and an easier hard mode Lucifer fight. In Chronicles hard mode Lucifer has Diarahan and Root of Evil has a Dekaja effect. In Maniax hard mode he has none of that.
This might be fan conspiracy theory bs but...I truly believe they did this remaster because the TDE of nocturne directly correlates to the upcoming plot of SMTV. (here's hoping for demi-fiend super boss lol)
Exactly my thoughts, the presence of Lucifer, the deserted Tokyo, the announcement trailer having a nod to the title screen of Nocturne and the sudden need of a Remaster all seemed very intentional to me. Let's see if this is pure coincidence or will go somewhere
This was what made me want to try it for myself. Finally did it today, what a way to end 2022! I used Dante too, but gave myself more breathing room by levelling up to the 90s, and bringing Vishnu and Metatron. Yours is more impressive because it shows a Demi-Fiend in the late 60s can pull it off with the right setup. And yours reminds me, I haven't evolved my Suparna yet!
I agree on that front because Pierce isn't used for magic spells. On the flip side, it's cool to see Dante actually fight in the battle instead of being a placeholder just to pass turns.
I didn’t bother with grinding out Freikugel and just stuck with Spiral Viper and Pierce. Didn’t even have Focus on MC, but did have it, Pierce, and Dark Sword on Ongyo-Ki. FUN FACT: although Dark Sword never hits usually in regular combat, IT NEVER MISSES IN THIS FIGHT!!
This makes me wana load up my main file and have a go. Iv engineered move wise and made my main guy over powered with loads of incense but iv never done this battle.
So i went and did just that. Now i am way too strongk and i have a party with a move list making me invincible lvl 81 and rising, just about to take on the trumpeter and abused everything from mitama to correct demon stat deficiencies and cancelling weaknesses with null skills particularly gogmagog but now he is albion he is my roronoa zoro. I need levels so it learns hades blast and player demon is going to learn it about the same time and i have all the buffz debuffz and anti buff anti debuff and full revive skills on 2 demons, one has mediarama and the other prayer and mediarahan, all have high lvl magic attack all spell besides albion but physical does nothing and he will learn soon phys drain so he heals from being attacked and that takes all moves from enemy not just 2. And my player demon has all stats close to Max early thanks to white box gift and grinding for weeks in low level areas which also gift high munni proportionally speaking. Lots of reloads to get exactly what i wanted from white boxes and don't get me started on what it took to bring over the best skills of all demons fused since i was level 10. It can take several hours for one fusion.
@@Darth_Bateman i had pierce on 2 of my demons thanks to girimehkala fusing lol, the diarahan literally just dragged the fight out and didn't introduce any new interesting mechanics
I had a strength build with pierce, avenge, and focus in my skills. I was doing most of the damage since I didn’t have any other party members with pierce, with the battle culminating in Lucifer smacking me and I beat him with a counter attack
He has Son Oath's which gave you 50% boost of Physical damage + pierce which dealin higher damage. He ain't useless without focus but he just strong as he is.
Hey, since you have Pierce, Focus and Magma Axis in the same build here, can you PLEASE tell me if those skills apply to Magma Axis? I already googled a lot and have found very mixed responses and I don't want to accidentally screw up my build. Thank you ^-^ (If anybody else knows, feel free to tell me too!)
pretty sure that pierce does, as it's phys-fire, like surt's regular attack, and from my last play through i can say definitively that focus does not work. I applied focus, used magma axis, and was unable to reapply it because it wasn't used up yet
@@ianritchie-smith475 But the in game description only states its pure magic damage and just consumes hp. Also, surts normal attack can be focused if I remember correctly, and it would be a bit weird if phys-fire damage wouldn't work the same for everyone. But thank you already, now I already know that it doesn't work with focus! Pierce I could try out myself on my save file, I just already threw away focus-
@@user-wi8bs4kp4g It is pure magic damage, yes, but it consumes HP. And yes, surt's regular attack can be focused. I'm not sure what to tell you. It's just weird. And, you're welcome, I'm always happy to help.
Guys i'm playing the HD chronicle version on hard and Lucifer keeps spamming dekunda/dekaja on repeat, leaving me unable to counter his strongest attacks properly. What should i do? Maybe limit the buffs/debuffs to the bare minimum might help avoid him casting those?
In the SMT series, "YHWH" is one of the avatar created by the "Great Will", which is the true equivalent to God. Except that in this incarnation, the Avatar YHWH scheemed the fight between Law and Chaos, so that he would always remain in power. That's what i've read about. Can someone correct me if i'm wrong?
Bro how tf? I had maxed stats for all my demons, max stats for me, max health, and mp Each one had debilitate, tarukaja, and rakukaja, and had masakados equipped and I still got one tapped I had to have been like level 200 too
@@delgande Sun's Oath is one of Dantes final skills. They gave Dante pierce to keep him on par in endgame with Raidou because in Raidou's skills he had pierce back in original Nocturne
Well, it's kind of a shared quirk with Raidou. The balance of the game is based around the Chronicles re-release, and they added a Pierce passive to Raidou (who replaces Dante in said version). It stands to reason that they'd give Dante that same skill so as to not make one of them just outright better.
You know, I've never really noticed until now; is the lady behind him supposed to be what turns into Lucifer there? Or is the old man/child what turns into Lucifer? I know the old man/child have obvious visual references to Lucifer, but I'm still not sure what's really happening there. Or maybe Lucifer is neither of them but the old man/child just has the power to summon him?
@@danthovict381 the lucifer design with her and the old/young lucifer is supposed to be a reference to twin peaks. There are fan theories speculating who she is but i don’t think devs intended her to be anyone given there being no significant plot point or interview regarding her
@@danthovict381 To put it bluntly, both the old and young ladies are mouthpieces of Lucifer. It's only on the True Demon ending where the head honcho finally speaks for himself on his two forms.
Lucifer: "So Demi-Fiend, i will test you, show me your true power!"
*Some time later*
Lucifer: "By the way, why is the Devil Hunter i hired hitting me there while you stand watching?"
Demi-fiend: “Oh so you expect me to learn athletic abilities and beat people up with the body of steel at the same time? I’m a schoolboy, not a God!
@@ninjapickles244 Demi-Fiend: Now shut up, I am eating popcorn here
@@NeroKnight666Dante: Hey Lucifer eyes on me instead of looking at Demi-Fiend.
@NeroKnight666 Dante: Unfortunately, Lucifer, I'm not a God. I'm a half Demon from my dad side name, Sparda, who rebelled against his own Demon clan.
Dante:"Change of plans old man..."
"Dante swings sword and does almost all the work for 20 minutes".mp4
A definite step up from "Dante doesn't get to participate in the fight because his sword can't cut deep enough for Lucifer to feel it so instead we brought his cooler clone in to do all the work for him" like in OG Maniax. Proud of him.
Koi
@@frankbrocker2963 word man.
In my case was Mother Harlot xd
@@hpcflopper as in, Mother Harlot did the heavy lifting against Lucifer?
To Naoki, this was the final boss and end of his journey.
To Dante, this was just another mid-chapter boss fight.
Uhh no to Naoki it was a test to see if he's able to kill YHVH or not.
Lucifer (the true lucifer) as shown in smt 2 is the dark counter part of YHVH. He's slightly weaker than him.
If demi fiend can best lucifer no problem. He can best YHVH no problem.
And as for Dante. Even dmc5 smt version of events would destroy him.
@@jackour8167 yet naoki failed in defeating yhvh also there is an interview that suggests Steven and mido are pretty comparable to each other and it took nanashi Flynn aleph smt 1 protagonist and naoki to take Steven and mido even said he could not handle dante's power when you attempt to fuse him with another demon
You guys are wanking Dante way too much. This Dante has nothing to do with main series Dante, you guys need to chill. YHVH is at least 9th dimensional, which is four orders of infinity above multiverse level (thanks to apocalypse showing the brane layers).
@@kennethlatorre5269 yes but this dante is still stupid as fuck and technically you can still argue they are same after all dante has made two appearances in this series
Dante has fought a universe creating demon in DMC1 so it's nothing new for him for sure.
Grandpa Max wasn't the same after that Ben 10 Reboot
Nobody was
I knew he sounded like him
After this fight demifiend started calling lucifer, lucy.
and gets almighty lightning to the face every time.
Eh, all you're doing is giving him more ideas for future human disguise names. I half imagine his next incarnation as a blonde loli with heterochromatic eyes in a gothic dress and having angel and devil puppets on her hands (Made to resemble cutesy versions of angelic and devil Lucifer forms respectively). As for what her name will be?
Lucy Fahr.
@@AloisAgos I love this.
@@AloisAgos thats a name hikaru shouldve gotten in smt 4
it's funny because in spanish, there's a name called "fernanda" and other called "lucia", if you combine them, first one lucia and second one fernanda, and you short the name for easier naming, it will be "lucifer" lol
“He will place a heavy burden of atonement on your shoulders, which you shall bear for all eternity.”
“…Ok”
raiden, turn the game console off right now
The mission is a failure! Cut the power RIGHT NOW!!!
@@TrueCobalion What's wrong with you!?
@@its0verfella65 what’s wrong with you is more like it?
@@gabe2646 what are you talking about? Don't you realize they "what's wrong with you?!" Is what Raiden replies to the AI colonel.
@@wubbawubba3396 oh I see I forgot about that part
I was under the assumption that he didn’t understand the reference
To be honest, wasn't expecting Roy Campbell all of a sudden. A pleasant surprise though nonetheless.
Yeah i felt that too, is that him alright?
I was hoping Lucifer would sound like Palpatine, but I am cool with Paul Eiding.
Ben 10's grandpa also
Damn grampa max got so messed up from the Ben 10 reboot that he decided to screw humanity over
Lol 😂
Roy "Lucifer" Campbell
This takes the AI corruption from mgs2 to another timeline
@@alejandrogutierrez1079 tf bruh that's the Arsenal Gear AI not Roy Campbell himself
I need scissors
@@julianzelarayan8588 61!
Demi fiend! Turn the game console off right now!
THE LUCIFER VOICE IS AMAZING, they truly captured that ominous presence that Lucifer conveyed, straight to the final transformation. I'm so damn excited to see what SMT V has to offer.
I don't know, I don't think they nailed it.
Also sad how much of the dialogue changed. It feels it lacks some complexity now.
It's Paul Eiding, of course the voice is amazing.
So, what did you think of SMTV?
@@MrSuperbeast92 I'm currently still on my first playthrough, in the last area, the game has been so addicting, that I've spent a literal month on it, and haven't touched anything else. I'm also at 115 hours? It's honestly a blast, just exploring, doing quests and getting to know the areas, I love the direction they're going with the wide scale exploration.
The essence system also has vast diversity, for both demons and Nahobino, it really lets you sit to craft your own builds and everything.
The cutscenes are amazing, music is absolutely beautiful, and it's just wide spread. I'm definitely going back to do every route this time around, SMT V is just what I needed, and was worth the wait, to me, my goty
@@skydivisionx Awesome! Not to give specifics, but there's over 3 endings. So enjoy All your playthroughs. ;)
Snake: "Colonel! What kind of nonsense are you saying? It feels like I'm speaking to the Devil himself!"
Otacon: "S-snake! But that's the Devil indeed!!!"
Lucifer: "Kept you waiting, huh?"
*Connection lost*
Otacon: "Snake! Snake, can you hear me?! SNAAAAAAAAKE!"
Yes
the thing that really makes this fight tough that no guide seems to mention is that Root of Evil has a Dekaja effect to it. if he Dekundas into Root of Evil then High King the next turn, you're basically 100% screwed.
@Wesley Warning in original Ps2 it doesnt have.
@@internetexplorer7422 Root of Evil only has a Dekaja effect in Chronicles, on hard
Really late i know, but its not the worst part, root of evil can leave you at 10% of health and just a double attack on demi its a game over, this fight itsjust rng, they should make root of evil a last turn move otherwise its just bs.
Btw, he is playing the maniax versión so root of evil don't have the dejaka effect
I don't think people realize how ridiculously powerful Lucifer canonically is in this game in particular.
Above his dad
@@Kira22558 Fr. Yhvh in Nocturne would've been lightweight.
Lucifer in Nocturne was just straight up The Dark Side of God and the Shadow of Creation. Bar SMT V's Lucifer, Nocturne Lucifer held far more metaphysical weight compared to his other SMT versions.
@@Sharlatans unironically, Lucifer in 3 wasn't near as weak and incapable as the others. Kagutsuchi in particular, is capable of destroying and creating entire worlds. Even YHVH can't do that. And according to IV, he'd rather destroy humanity than the entirety of the world. And that's proven further in SMTII when it's a plot point that he can't wipe out all life on earth. Instead, he charges up a massive space laser to wipe out the life on earth, not even earth itself. Kagutsuchi by himself has done all that and more with sheer power. And Lucifer here is far stronger than Kagutsuchi.
@@bogus8591 True true.
Btw, is SMT 2-4 connected like some people are saying, and if so, then how does Satan's existence work? Since apparently, 4 is an alternate route of 2, and 4A is an alternate route of 4, so wouldn't that mean that Satan is simultaneously made up of Luci&Merkabah, and at the same time a separate, independent entity from them entirely.
T-posing devil tries to beat up a half-demon teen but lost
Its not really a T-pose. You should see Demiurge.
@@danthovict381 The truly T-pose man
actually lucifer did crush the teen boy but stephen save demi fiend and give him a 2nd chance (if u play IV apocalypse the messiah dlc)
the DLC Is not canon
@@Makima_satoru5 the dlc IS canon, but it's just one of many multiple timelines. in that timeline demi fiend lost, in your own game demi fiend wins
This is honestly one of the most hype battles ever. Get to tango with Lucifer as a test to show you are worthy of leading his armies.
Why would Dante stand by and allow that to happen?
SMT3HD: Return of the High King
Man, just hearing Paul Eiding in this is just amazing. Who knew that that Lucifer is also part of The Patriots?
HOLY SHIT. I didn't know Dante has pierce in this new version, it almost makes me want to pay for him... almost.
I did because I need the meme
The benefits of returning because of Raidou.
I mean the only benefits you’re getting by purchasing the Maniax DLC is getting a reskin of Raidou and an easier hard mode Lucifer fight. In Chronicles hard mode Lucifer has Diarahan and Root of Evil has a Dekaja effect. In Maniax hard mode he has none of that.
@@MegidoMon diarahan? As in full restore of his 65k hp in one turn? Yeah, THAT'S not fair...
@@madgubbinz4304 This *is* the Lucifer we're talking about here. I'd think he'd play a little unfair
Demi-Fiend, the Kagatsuchi is a failure, turn the cycle of Creation off right now! La Li Lu Le Lo...
3:34-
Demi-Fiend: OH DEAR GOD!
Lucifer: *GOD CAN'T HELP YOU NOW!*
Dante: hello there…
LOOK! There's a demon with huge boobs over there.
Uh...Cool?
IT WOULD BE IF YOU WEREN'T GETTING YOUR ASS KICKED SO HARD!
@@crankylink13no more like
Dante: Let’s start the party
Grandpa Max Lucifer
I like him better as a retired Dark Lord than a retired Plumber.
Damn.. Grandpa Max and Sayaka Miki
Poor Homura got hijacked hard after she hijacked Madoka.
And the blonde kid is Sayaka Miki.
and the old man sounded like max tennyson
@@herooftimex3ds that is grandpappy max tennyson.
It feels like dante was playing in DMD mode XD where the boss is hard to kill and he took quite a lot damage XD
I didn't know grandpa Max was the devil this whole time.
root of evil is so sick!! I love how it zooms into his face like an old horror movie
10:58 imagine if you didnt use Debilitate to reduce Lucifer Atk and also imagine if Lucifer used Dekunda instead of Dekaja ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Wow, Grandpa Lucifer is voiced by Paul Eiding.
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed
This might be fan conspiracy theory bs but...I truly believe they did this remaster because the TDE of nocturne directly correlates to the upcoming plot of SMTV. (here's hoping for demi-fiend super boss lol)
True demon ending is canon?
@@rdu239 pretty sure. Most of the messiah's in the apocalypse dlc follow their cannon endings. I believe demi fiend is pulled from the tde path
@@Jaknife101 demi fiend even tells to nanashi that lucifer killed him, and that he wanted a rematch
Exactly my thoughts, the presence of Lucifer, the deserted Tokyo, the announcement trailer having a nod to the title screen of Nocturne and the sudden need of a Remaster all seemed very intentional to me. Let's see if this is pure coincidence or will go somewhere
@@giratina6665 don't forget lucifer's "the God you worship is dead"
I got halfway through this fight before the power cut off in my house...
What console where you playing on?
@@paperluigi6132 PS4. Since found out the surge protector on my extension had been off
Yo wait. Is that uncle Ben's voice I'm hearing from the old gentleman?
It's Ben 10s grandpa yes
Yeah, does sound like Paul Eiding. Voiced Colonel Campbell from Metal Gear Solid too. Dude's still got it.
@@CaptainS-h1q It is him!
Dante: Hey, Nero! Did I tell you about that time I helped some kid destroy the world for a dollar?
Nero: What the fu-
MAN I WAS OVER-PREPARED FOR THIS FIGHT. I had Beelzebub, Metatron and Shiva. Was a fucking cakewalk.
Which version were you playing? Also did any of them have Pierce?
@@MegidoMon Chronicle, I had pierce on the demi-fiend.
Normal mode?
@@airbornezombie7655 yeah.
@@eyalamit5120 yeah I had a similar setup on hard mode and he kept fucking me up
Why old luckier sound like max Tennyson tho
I thought the same thing
Same voice actor
Best goddamn final boss theme in history .
this is what i’ve been waiting for
I always wondered what were Dante thoughts on this ending
He probably go back to his universe
@Ray Nelson Chan yes
He was most likely sent back to his universe or he was killed by Demi-fiend and Lucifer.
@@armandostockvideos8386 Dante blitzed both Demi-Fiend and Lucifer before they can react.
Man, Root of Evil 10%/25% HP followed by Normal attack to Demi Fiend is so unfair on Hard. Literally game over.
So THAT is how he got the Lucifer, from Devil May Cry 4.
this is what Colonel was doing during MGS2
This was what made me want to try it for myself. Finally did it today, what a way to end 2022!
I used Dante too, but gave myself more breathing room by levelling up to the 90s, and bringing Vishnu and Metatron. Yours is more impressive because it shows a Demi-Fiend in the late 60s can pull it off with the right setup. And yours reminds me, I haven't evolved my Suparna yet!
Could've just ran a Phys Build, learned Freikugel, and made this 20-24 minutes instead.....
I agree on that front because Pierce isn't used for magic spells.
On the flip side, it's cool to see Dante actually fight in the battle instead of being a placeholder just to pass turns.
@@chaosgreyblood you could say he's no longer dead weight
@@chaosgreyblood Pierce actually does affect Freikugel. :)
I didn’t bother with grinding out Freikugel and just stuck with Spiral Viper and Pierce. Didn’t even have Focus on MC, but did have it, Pierce, and Dark Sword on Ongyo-Ki. FUN FACT: although Dark Sword never hits usually in regular combat, IT NEVER MISSES IN THIS FIGHT!!
Also known as "30 minutes of watching Dante constantly slash Lucifer in the crotch"
Ben: Grampa, why are you trying to kill god?
No one:
Dante: *Rebellion combo noises*
Dante: Aww shucks I get to be actually useful this time!
Jesus Christ man
Get some sleep
Well Prince Aidan did eventually became the Dark Wanderer. lol
Lucifer almost likes to say 'darkness' as much as Ansem. e_o
Paul Eiding fits so damn well for old man Lucius
Well i still can't believe they didnt give him a diarahan in the HD version
He has diarahan in HD, he just didn't use it during this fight.
@@archie8978 Reminds me of when Nyarly just so happened to kill Lucifer before he used Diarahan in his no buff/debuff run
He only has Diarahan in Chronicles hard mode.
This makes me wana load up my main file and have a go.
Iv engineered move wise and made my main guy over powered with loads of incense but iv never done this battle.
So i went and did just that. Now i am way too strongk and i have a party with a move list making me invincible lvl 81 and rising, just about to take on the trumpeter and abused everything from mitama to correct demon stat deficiencies and cancelling weaknesses with null skills particularly gogmagog but now he is albion he is my roronoa zoro. I need levels so it learns hades blast and player demon is going to learn it about the same time and i have all the buffz debuffz and anti buff anti debuff and full revive skills on 2 demons, one has mediarama and the other prayer and mediarahan, all have high lvl magic attack all spell besides albion but physical does nothing and he will learn soon phys drain so he heals from being attacked and that takes all moves from enemy not just 2. And my player demon has all stats close to Max early thanks to white box gift and grinding for weeks in low level areas which also gift high munni proportionally speaking.
Lots of reloads to get exactly what i wanted from white boxes and don't get me started on what it took to bring over the best skills of all demons fused since i was level 10. It can take several hours for one fusion.
I'm still a little bummed that they removed his Diarahan. That's now a feature exclusive to the original Maniax Chronicle version.
Honnestly it was kind of pointless outside of making you waste time + it was random in Chronicles sometime he wasn't using it at all for some reasons.
i get it was supposed to make him imposing but good bosses know when they've taken enough of your time
@@ApexGale should have used pierce.
@@Darth_Bateman i had pierce on 2 of my demons thanks to girimehkala fusing lol, the diarahan literally just dragged the fight out and didn't introduce any new interesting mechanics
@@ApexGale They probably had to do it because they wanted Lucifer to have more HP, but integer limit didn't allow for it
I had a strength build with pierce, avenge, and focus in my skills. I was doing most of the damage since I didn’t have any other party members with pierce, with the battle culminating in Lucifer smacking me and I beat him with a counter attack
What level were u?
3:00 Okay Xehanort
Thank you, Colonel, very cool.
my game crashed right after beating lucifer...
Of course it’d be Dante, how could you ever defeat the demon of darkness without your trusty demon slayer.
I love demifiend didnt do anything
Demi-fiend wins by doing absolutely nothing
The life of a magic demi fiend build
this game was like one long David Lynch movie
Ahh so this is the real final boss.
why the fuck is Ben 10's grandpa lucifer? XD
Would love to pay for dlc where we fight YHVH.
Wouldn't be much of a fight
Thank the heavens for giving Donte pierce.
I thought they were because I went under the thought process of why would you pay for an objectively worse demon
Donte is the stupid edgy reboot Dante.
Hell yeah granpa max voices old lucifer lets goooooooo!!!!!
went into this fight dreading it after doing the original ps2 version... first try beat him without losing the frontline team.
I love Lucifer just T posing like a boss. 😂
At the end you are the new demon and more powerfull that take Lucifer place
Yes and you now lead the charge against the war on heaven. Kinda terrifying once you think about, this whole time you were training to destroy god lol
not really. you needed help to beat him.
Maybe? he seems fine even after that battle, i would wager it was not lucifers full power.
@@enigmatic247 actually, you were training to destroy a dude who casually throws singularities at you.
Demi fiend could make lucifer his bottom b*tch
I wonder if pierce is now an innate ability for Dante?
Yes
Just beat the game today
Huh? Grandpa Max? Is that you?
3 time uploading, it seem this ypur favorite rpg all of time
why does old man luci sound like grandpa max
Without Focus, Dante looks really useless.
Not really. He innately gets Pierce, and has a very high crit chance, allowing him to generate turns
He has Son Oath's which gave you 50% boost of Physical damage + pierce which dealin higher damage.
He ain't useless without focus but he just strong as he is.
hardest boss fight ever 😭😭
It's even hard . This the VA of Colonel Campbell and Max Tennson
Hey, since you have Pierce, Focus and Magma Axis in the same build here, can you PLEASE tell me if those skills apply to Magma Axis? I already googled a lot and have found very mixed responses and I don't want to accidentally screw up my build. Thank you ^-^
(If anybody else knows, feel free to tell me too!)
pretty sure that pierce does, as it's phys-fire, like surt's regular attack, and from my last play through i can say definitively that focus does not work. I applied focus, used magma axis, and was unable to reapply it because it wasn't used up yet
@@ianritchie-smith475 But the in game description only states its pure magic damage and just consumes hp. Also, surts normal attack can be focused if I remember correctly, and it would be a bit weird if phys-fire damage wouldn't work the same for everyone. But thank you already, now I already know that it doesn't work with focus! Pierce I could try out myself on my save file, I just already threw away focus-
@@user-wi8bs4kp4g It is pure magic damage, yes, but it consumes HP. And yes, surt's regular attack can be focused. I'm not sure what to tell you. It's just weird. And, you're welcome, I'm always happy to help.
Bro what is that load out.
You have all 4 magic skills for Demi fiend, with Pierce and focus but spiral viper or friekugel.
What build was that…
Guys i'm playing the HD chronicle version on hard and Lucifer keeps spamming dekunda/dekaja on repeat, leaving me unable to counter his strongest attacks properly. What should i do? Maybe limit the buffs/debuffs to the bare minimum might help avoid him casting those?
Bruh same, and he will use diarahan and I have to start all over again
@@yagami6998 defeated him on normal lmao 😅
Welcome to SMT brother
I got to see Dante kill Satan; I'm consindering it canon that Dante can kick the devil's ass.
Does anybody know the pattern of Root of Evil? Cause in Hard mode that move it's a nightmare
How do you got Dante? Only I have see radiou
DLC
Its weird that Lucifer still mention "The Great Will" while in SMT 4 his name change into "The Axiom"
"The Great Will" in Smt 3 is supposed to be YHVH, not the axiom
@@thatoneguy3436 you sure? keeping humans in a cycle of death and rebirth is the Great Will's MO.
@@thatoneguy3436 YHVH is never the Great Will. YHVH and the Great Will are two speperate beings.
In the SMT series, "YHWH" is one of the avatar created by the "Great Will", which is the true equivalent to God. Except that in this incarnation, the Avatar YHWH scheemed the fight between Law and Chaos, so that he would always remain in power. That's what i've read about. Can someone correct me if i'm wrong?
@@CardfighterL the minimal evidence suggests that you're right. however, it is incredibly stupid.
Sayaka miki and grampa max?
1:06 grandpa max?
After beating Lucifer I got black screen, yeah, go me
Bro how tf? I had maxed stats for all my demons, max stats for me, max health, and mp
Each one had debilitate, tarukaja, and rakukaja, and had masakados equipped and I still got one tapped
I had to have been like level 200 too
The author got insanely good RNG. There's no strategy to this fight, it's just rng.
Wait dante can pierce now?!?
Sun's Oath got remade in HD giving him both Pierce and the 50% attack buff to all his attacks
@@dracula103192 i forgot, whats Sun's Oath?
@@delgande Sun's Oath is one of Dantes final skills.
They gave Dante pierce to keep him on par in endgame with Raidou because in Raidou's skills he had pierce back in original Nocturne
@@dracula103192
Wrong "Sun", son.
Well, it's kind of a shared quirk with Raidou. The balance of the game is based around the Chronicles re-release, and they added a Pierce passive to Raidou (who replaces Dante in said version). It stands to reason that they'd give Dante that same skill so as to not make one of them just outright better.
Demi-fiend, turn off the console right now!
I see so that's how dante is boundless☠☠☠
Why his voice is so similar to Limit Breakers old man 😨
What skills did you have on Yurlungur?
how did u get dante to pierce? i used focus+freikugel, dante using holy star+stinger, metatron using debiliate+tarukaja, and fairy healing
Dante's Son's Oath passive gives him pierce and raises his damage 50%
Nahobino beat a stronger version of Lucifer in SMT V so Nahobino is stronger than Demi Fiend.
Well yes
But he still getting rekt by El
El slams Nahobino lol
that is way too damn fast, anyways tks for the video.
Most likely played on easy, it's been a long time since I played the original but I remember Lucifer doing much more damage.
Man even if it was easy the time and items that took him to fight with lucifer was too tedious. Truly an endurance quest.
Is that Colonel Campbell?
Oh lol it is
Paul Eiding
Man SMT V Lucifer is such a pushover
Smt 5 Lucifer >>>>>>smt nocturne Lucifer
@@fuckingking6796 Ultimately, yeah. Moveset wise, SMT V Lucifer is MUCH more threatening
You know, I've never really noticed until now; is the lady behind him supposed to be what turns into Lucifer there? Or is the old man/child what turns into Lucifer? I know the old man/child have obvious visual references to Lucifer, but I'm still not sure what's really happening there. Or maybe Lucifer is neither of them but the old man/child just has the power to summon him?
I think the old man and the blond child is the lucifer. I think they are supposed to be Louis Cyphre. In smt 2, he is the avatar of lucifer.
Then who is the lady?
The old man/child turns into Lucifer, because Lucifer is them. As for the ladies in black, it's never really explained what she is.
@@danthovict381 the lucifer design with her and the old/young lucifer is supposed to be a reference to twin peaks. There are fan theories speculating who she is but i don’t think devs intended her to be anyone given there being no significant plot point or interview regarding her
@@danthovict381 To put it bluntly, both the old and young ladies are mouthpieces of Lucifer. It's only on the True Demon ending where the head honcho finally speaks for himself on his two forms.
this boss was genuinely really easy, at least compared to lucifer in SMT 4
Lucifer in smt iv was stupidly easy, just spam tetrakarn
@@erikpaulsanchez4876 yeah, thats how I learned to cheese most of the later game bosses lmao
Then there's Lucifer in Devil Survivor
Dekja exists :this guy (visible not giving 2 shits)