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Most inaccurate test ever
He wanted to laugh so bad after he won twice.
Mans just straight up caught up half a lag behind with two to go, absolutely riveting
nice
Love the new Festool Impact 💪🏻
Festool is a great machine 👍 Dad leaves the reaction 😉😊 best regards from Germany 👋
Milwaukee is a greater machine 👍 Dad leaves the reaction (that's why he chooses to use the Milwaukee the son) 😂
Best regards from US 👋
Festool is one of the worst german tool manufacturers they should be done for crimes to humanity for how low quality and inflated prices they charge.
Festool is better for cabinet and furniture makers/installers. The Milwaukee is for concrete stuff. Festool has special settings so does Makita though. I inherited my Dads Makita stuff and have bought my own stuff. Festool is nice but super pricy.
Milwaukee is the best hands down. No comparison
@@nestornieves9822 milwaukee is a decent brand but not as useful for doing cabinets.
Did anyone notice both times mid race the festool was flying but then it was like it slowed up.
I did , after play back :)
I would like to see then swap and then do the same tests. I think there is some operator error in there that's not giving a good result.
doesn't it have an ec-tec motor?
3:08 matey on left looked well happy with himself 😂
I think what sales Festool is the concept that they are very long lasting tools. I cannot bring myself to buy Festool because I could own at least two Makita tools for the price of one Festool. With that being sad I can most likely get many years out of a Makita tool so it more than paid for itself.
I have a protool (same thing as festool) and it's at least 2011 and still goes like new
We had makita at my work they said its 14 yrs now and milwaukee that only last 5 yrs
Any pro would know that proper "branded" impact sockets (not standards) make a world of diffrence, but it's safe to say they run pretty much the same. Anyways boys get your self a Mil farrrr cheaper!
Goodyou mention more then just speed! All test just look at speed and there is much more then that! I got both tools and for finer work the Milwaukee sucks! Glad I got a festool for all the other functions
festool is good, but I will stick with my makita , they bring out the same performance but makita is way cheaper!
No used there impact , they make good tools !
I'd like to see it with an impact socket on the Festool.
It’s not really a fair comparison. A larger, heavier socket on the Milwaukee and the festool has lighter smaller socket does make a real difference. I’m a Milwaukee guy fyi.
@@grizzly2880 Absolutely...I've seen many of guys try to break lug nuts loose with non impact sockets. All that percussive shock is lost with the thin walls.
I own both I also own the makita 18v. I love my festool with different settings it’s great for kitchen fitting cabinet making and so on. To be honest the Milwaukee has the more power. Mine is used for concrete fixings and has no problem with them. On the other hand the makita struggles. Festool feels lovely in my hand so does the makita but I’ve never loved the feel of the Milwaukee but it packed a punch. 👍
100% agree
Have a look at the details.. The Milwaukee has nearly 50Nm more Tension than the Festool. The Festool was as fast as the Milwaukee. Not all is red und running.
they have serious problem. a lot customer report the same problem, but they never fixed it. th-cam.com/video/wj4nAuNmjKk/w-d-xo.html
@@CinematicTutti
Thanks for that
Im buying the festool regardless. Ive been holding oout hoping they would intro one.
Im still using my 19.2v craftsman. Its probably 12 years old. Still works. Batteries beyond suck tho.
Trust me when me when the milwaky will be rottening in a scrapyard the festool will still be on track trustworthly serving plus the 3 years ALL INCLUSIVE warenty and 10years availability for ANY parts and if not…. A new device…
How much does the bit move forward and backward when locked in the Festool ball detent chuck? On the impact drivers I currently own, the bits can freely slide anywhere between 2.5 and 5mm which is an absolute pet peeve of mine.
Milwaukee is the best all of time.💪
No makita is
Festool probably made their tool purposefully less powerful than the Milwaukee fuel to prolong tool life
Nice comparison
You should try the Milwaukee hydraulic Surge impact. Here in the states they are about $149 bare tool. Much quieter and smoother. I would gladly sacrifice 1-2 seconds of speed for comfort.
Only problem is Milwaukee’s switch or something fails in the surge impacts. We had three fail now the forward/reverse switch doesn’t change the direction. I found throwing the tool on the floor real hard fixes it (because we got mad that a 3rd one died). Too bad, I love the surge but for real workers using it daily for low torque applications they need to improve their build quality.
There is more to a tool than simply speed. Ergonomics plays a large part. How the tool fits in your hand, how heavy is it, can you use it all day long? How reliable is it over time. Does the Milwaukee have as good a warranty and can you find someone to fix it. You must have to have it rebuilt. Also, how loud is the Milwaukee? I have a Makita compact impact wrench that is tiny but is so loud that I have to wear ear protection to use it. Are the Milwaukee batteries guaranteed for 3 years? So many variables and so many choices in the market right now. There are probably 20 different models of impact drivers out there right now. Given such confusion, it is comforting to know that Festool at least looks at the system aspects of ALL their tools, and so one knows that pretty much every tool one obtains in the Festool line is well made, someone actually thought about what and who is going to use it, and that it is guaranteed for a decent amount of time. Let the kid use the Milwaukee. He probably doesn't care about his hearing nor what is going to happen 3 years from now.
The Milwaukee is far better than you imagine not to mention lower price and yep 3 year warranty.
I have several employees who swear buy milwaukee funny thing is they ha e had to replace everyone of their tools and i havent repaired any of my festool or makita. Faster isn't always better plus their batteries seem.to die more frequently.
Your Dad was trying to cheat...lol
Lol
Great review, thanks
Lmao, I too like to compare chainsaws to sawzalls when cutting 2x’s just so I can complain about the chainsaw being too aggressive
Guy can’t drive a screw straight...
Festool is a good machine, but the price is too expensive. If the performance difference is this much, you should buy Milwaukee.
Would've preferred a 3'' screws lads. Normally use a drill for lags.
I own like you all most festool tools ,but no impact driver,I will give a try just for your advice
Just for laughs and giggles only
Hahaha that was awesome. 👌🏽
Dueling Banjos should have been playing in the background!
Not a lot in it, a couple of seconds at best. As you say though, it's about the aggressiveness of the red which is best suited for construction site type work load, where as the green is better suited to your line of workshop joinery. 👍🏽
Pitting the carpenters green wet dream against real tools.
Id like to see my kobalt xtr go up against that festool that would be a good one
Do it , me to
Festool is meant for finish work
Milwaukee all day long, great value for money, Great to see the Festool fan boys blame there bits lol
Haha
I own the Milwaukee and in my Opinion it’s garbage mite have a Lott of power but there is no finesse at all the trigger is either on or off and sometimes you pull the trigger and nothing happens
@@acemace4491 Sorry to hurt your feelings
Feelings weren’t hurt bud just giving my two cents for what it’s worth
@@acemace4491 mine does that too! Had to work away in a hot country a few months back and it was noticeably worse in 40~ degree heat. Not sure if thats of any relevance though. I still rate it as an impact driver but I've just bought some cordless festool stuff so I might make the change when it finally packs up
You will say anything for a excuse but the young fella won both times well done to your SON lol
Funiture stuff is mostly pre- drilled or cam clamps ,milwaukee has a smaller hand sized one for that also .
So does festool
I had a Milwaukee the Chuck was rubbish ,they still put the same rubbish Chuck on their lastest models , I now have a festool and everything about it is quality especially the Chuck , if you haven't used or own a festool you would never
Understand the difference
I think you are trying to justify spending all that money on festering, Milwaukee chucks are fine, have you got shares in uncle fester?
Let's face it you love festool no matter what.. Its funny how we get all weird around our tools.. But, I do love a good comparison.. Worst thing is to buy a new tool and then they bring out the upgraded version.. And you just want the new version..
Should have swapped sides and repeated. Looked like different density in the timber to me. I have the new Milwaukee impact . It goes good, fast. Gets pretty hot on 150mm 14g screws. Great for bolts but not very good on small screws 10g 50mm or less seems to fast not enough low speed torque. Much easier with a drill on first.
Should have switch sides , I am a new angle Grinder one coming and we switch
Go on best three out of five
What is with the handicap socket? The difference is huge.
Ik voel dat je al voordat je begin al een voorkeur hebt voor de Festool.Een boormachine kan niet agressief zijn. En ja hoor Festool slipt en mijn bits is warm geworden wat een excuus.Je bent niet neutraal.
Milwaukee M12 surge impact would give them both a run for the money.
Ha
IMHO Will was smoother, less hurried than you?
Damn I need a Festool
Tienes un modelo antiguo del milwaukee creo que es mas potente ahora
Strange lol in both tests one guy fell behind then made a come back.
had Milwaukee drills and driver for years now , they hold very well even for professionals, specially the new brushless version ...and probably half the price
You should have run the tests over but with the other guy holding each drill. Then you could have eliminated a variable and created a better opportunity to discuss how they each felt. Still though, good for a laugh.
I agree , we are going to swap next time .and its coming soon ....:)
why do you have eyeprotection over hearing protection when operating a loud tool? It's not like the screw's gonna explode into your eyes. This lack of earprotection (while using loud tools) is standard for ALL youtubers. Don't believe me? Check for yourself.
I always wear ear protection when doing repeat or long run work on loud machine , these days it a nice pair of Apple AirPod with some cool tunes :)
The young guy does so not agree with the Festool fanboy.
sorry fella what a load of old flannel. Festool all day long. An amazing machine
I use both platforms Milwaukke and Festool but for the price I see no innovation in the Festool you could have a surge and a normal fuel for the price of the Festool ..... I've had my milwakee for six years so I know it's durable
I like e there power, impact didn’t last more than 15 months, maybe I was unlikely
@@ManorWood Milwaukee uses better components on their power train, to deliver amazing results, and puts a lot of emphasis on user interface, design and feel. But in order to reach the consumer market along side the pro market, they have to value engineer. The tools themselves rarely break, under even the worst conditions, but the stupid stuff like the trigger mechanisms do. But the end user rarely knows the failure mode, just the fact that the stupid thing stopped working, usually when it was needed. Milwaukee tools would cost as much or more than festool (probably more) if they didn't value engineer and used pro quality components throughout the whole tool, not just the parts that sell. But for "pro-sumers" the trade off is just right. Home gamers, and light duty pros get a very high quality, durable tool with a built in aneurism, a trigger assembly doomed for failure with a motor that will literally last forever inside a glass fiber reinforced plastic housing that can get runover by a tank. Pros will use the warranty when it fails in a year or so, or simply repair the tool themselves if they're so inclined. Home gamers will have a tool that's reliable for 5-10 years, for a price that doesn't relegate them to buying low grade junk.
Festool, until recently, puts brushed motors in all their tools. A small number of their cordless tools are brushless, but then, they only have a small number of tools to begin with. Festool couldn't fill a single shelf in my shop with their entire tool line. Milwaukee makes complete tool lines, in hand and power tools, for several trades. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, finish carpenters, industrial mechanics.... all have cordless tool options with milwaukee with brushless DC motors that are very friendly on batteries. Festool insists on brushed motors.. for one reason, in my opinion, that pro warranty. By keeping the motors brushed, they keep the overall costs down on the tools, and it offers a selling point on that pro warrantly ( we replace the brushes for free for 3 years, as much as you need). Except they should be using all brushless motors now.
На редкость равнозначные изделия. Выбор будет в пользу типа аккумулятора, который уже есть.
I use the Milwaukee and also find it a bit aggressive for things like boarding out with the 5ah battery! Bought a 2ah battery and it’s much better now. 5ah for smashing in anchors and 2ah for finer work. Festool is twice the price and IMO not twice the tool
Got my festool on and offer with free 5.0 battery work out same as Milwaukee. And it a much better tool to use and hold :)
Its not even half the tool, Festool delight in using crappy parts and inflated prices. Still the carpenters get hard ons over them.
I will still go to Makita or Dong Cheng powertools
Your son is taller and that may have been a deciding factor. Nice contest BTW.
Add: I ordered a TID 18 yesterday (extra battery for free!) : )
Festool is so damn expensive.
Got mine with a free 5.2 battery so worked out a great deal
Manor Wood if I replace all my DeWalt tools with festool, I’d be looking at $10k+.
@@ClankyRochet HIHIHIHI and for this $10K u just get ten Festool tools
Milwaukee all day used them in the mines first exposure to this brand used Makita Dewalt Bosch and Festool overall team red has been the best.
Milwaukee has big issues with their Impact driver, just a cheap shit. th-cam.com/video/wj4nAuNmjKk/w-d-xo.html
Brilliant........👍🇮🇪
I'm a professional carpenter/ cabinetmaker, I will not buy Milwaukee tools because their customer service is horrible, and they don't stand behind their tools, and I won't buy Festool because their prices are not of this world, there's no way to reconcile $1500 for a Kapex mitre saw, when you can buy a Bosch Glide saw for half the price ( I've used them both ) Bosch is a better saw, price not withstanding.
Ça marche strictement pas votre test on vois bien côté festool y a plus de noeud donc plus dure vissée
Too aggressive????? Lol
the guy on the left had better technique. Otherwise they were the same.
Milwaukee's trigger just doesn't feel nice or controlled at all. its either all go or nothing
Or just buy a Ryobi. Same as the Milwaukee but different colour... Both owned and made by Techtronic Industries of Hong Kong in the Far East. Saves money if you can live with the name..
Milwaukee smashed it didn’t Evan put the festool ones all the way in 😂😂😂
The son was doing it with ease on the Milwaukee, father was trying very hard to go the same speed but wasn’t cutting it. #milwaukee
milwauke is diy tool, festool is made to run 24/7 its for industrial use.
I did find my Milwaukee died after just over a year and needed new main part which cost me £75 or £80 !! For me Festool is a better tool
Makita are a great site tool.. Last for years.. Festool are the rolls Royce of tools.
If true why it die off
You have to be stupid to claim Milwaukee is for DIYers and Festool is for industrial. Festool cannot withstand industrial use.
@@svn5994 and milwaukees and dewalt cannot withstand even more... I have friend that owns furniture factory, and he use festools, as 2shift tools, circular saws, impacts, drills, etc.. but before he used makitas dewalts milwaukess etc,, all of them failed so mutch, but some miraculous way festools can run his buisines with like 10x less tool-failure rate... Say what you want, milwauke dewalt and other china crap is DIY LEVEL TOOLS.
Festool
Yea SURE blame the bit lol
A tradesman lets the tool do the work, you like a lot of youtubers force the tool no wonder your milwaukee needed fixing!
Lol. This was just a bit of fun I do t work like this all the time in face if you look at my video of me building furniture I don’t think u will ever see me use a screw :)
Note that Milwaukee was a "used" one.
Also NOTE! I had to pay £80 odd to get it fixed after only 15 months !!
No such thing as too aggressive if you know how to use a speed trigger !!!!
Cheap one vs expensive one
Milwaukee impact drivers BREAK often. Seent it. What I've never seent is a festool break.
My Milwaukee went under a 25 tonne truck and nothing happens
Festool vs hilti.
Milwaukee beats everything except for the Hitachi triple hammer for power, interestingly the festool is gaining some traction among builders in the states, cause it’s a lot more comfortable to use all day. The first day I had the milwaukee I was breaking off 4” screws in fir studs, literally twisting them to failure. Buy what makes to happy on this one I think
I can afford Milwaukee but not festool.
there both very good top machines
The comparison test is very unsuccessful
I told me what I needed to know , :)
Festool ain't no better than the Dewalt
I am 100% not saying it is, just showing what I have incase it helps someone . :)
@@ManorWood I wasn't having a go, sorry if that came across, mainly just comparing as seen results that milwakee did same to dewalt
Be great to see the Dewalt against one of the one a show we could then get a good idea . My first old dewalt want that good pre brushless so I first moved to Bosch which I still have 15yrs later (have it to my son) he is now getting the Milwaukee:)
thats the older Milwaukee the 3 rd generation been out over 2 year now in the states
👍🏻☺️
Wtf festool
completely different uses...
😂😂😂..... super🙏
Il ragazzo è stato più veloce 😁💪
and the winner is Hilti .
I'll second that !
Sounds good , be great to see it in action . Maybe vs Festool or Milwaukee
Manor Wood The Festool is more like a Bosch first version of impact drills , that means that the impact hits are smooth and less powerfull and the tool last longer because the impact forces are lower the consumption is lower , thats why the Milfackee burns out very fast , and the Bosch its a copy of Hilti from first generation and they were made in Switzerland at Bosch Scintilla (best tools ever at that era) with a direct competition with Festo , soo the smoother are the impacts the better for the tool and for the wooden piece that receive the vibration thru screws. Hilti has a good balance between power of impact and speed .You don’t need the most powerful tool you need the most balanced one , and in my opinion raported at what i do (both workshop and field montages) Hilti is the shit , for furniture and light work Festool , but if i use Festool outside in bad weather they will stop at dust and water , festool have a safety sistem that stops the tool when sense water and dust and that’s why i choose Hilti.
More TH-cam 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Absolutely shity test.
Just a bit of fun , I will leave the boring tech talk to the US boys they are good at that stuff
Milwaukee is half the cost. Festool your wasting money on a name.
Yep and your Primark clothes are way cheaper than North Face. Your Fiat van is cheaper than a VW. That McDonalds food that you love is way cheaper than real food.. why waste your money ?
Not sure where you're based but here in the UK there really isn't much in it if you shop around... sometimes the festool is cheaper, as is the case with the equivalent cordless sds drills..
Except when you take in to consideration long term usage. Festool is made in Germany. Milwaukee is made in China. After a dozen or so months of constant use, you'll probably have to replace the Chinese drill with a new one. And the Festool will still be operating like new.
Made in China: NO THANKS.
Two words : Hilti.
Alec BUSCEMI inset that one word 😂
Lol
Hilti SID 18 what a bullshit impact driver its more like a hammer to me heavy big and in performance is weaker than festool
@@OxideJP You may want to use a charged battery in that Hilti next time because it will kick the crap out of that Festool. Take that festool apart and you will see what a piece of junk it is.
Milwaukee smoked the Festool, yet you still say it's better? Milwaukee is better all around. Better built, lasts longer, better price, doesn't use that bullshit, over priced centrotec nonsense, more powerful and just as precise