@@BicycleDutch normally you would go straight at the Y-split entering Bennekom... you went left. Felt very scary watching it as that has been a one way road for ages. Apparently, going straight is also faster ;-). Nevermind, it was after the tunnel section, so indeed you cut the video 😀
i grow up with the Churchillweg 136 in Wageningen as the house from my grandparents and i was watching the ride , to find out it was closed . My grandmothers family was living in that street for many years ( still maybe some of her family). Greetings from out of China. and thank you for showing the trip to memory lane.
Sounds like one of the crank arms is hitting the cycle frame . ( i had the same happen to me after a run-in with a inattentive driver at a intersection.)
Most of the time it was riding besides a busy and NOISY provincial road. As an active cycling Dutchie I hate cycling besides or on busy and noisy provincial roads. And I always try to find the more scenic green signed routes. Which sometimes, but not always, might be a little longer but is so much more relaxed to cycle.
As a resident in the area, I don't really see the benefit of this new situation yet. Most of the bike lanes were separate from the car roads already. In Wageningen, they actually joined a bike lane with the rest of the road and called it a 'bicycle zone'. Not that the speeding cars on it really care.
It was really busy during rush hour. If a train full of students arrived at the station, it wasn’t nice to cycle to the campus of Wageningen (and I think regular commuters agree on this too). The paths were too narrow and cyclists needed to yield often to cars. The yielding has become less, but will be even more reduced. I think you mean the Churchillweg in Wageningen. The municipality has reduced the number of cars using the street and the project of ‘Beter Bereikbaar Wageningen’ will take care of that too. So it should not be a problem that bikes and cars are mixed there.
We rode this area in July. It is next to the British Market Garden landing site. At the Airborne Museum in Osterbeek I picked a fairly new book on how spys leaked information on the British parachute landing. The Russians gave the information to the Germans to insure that Allied Forces would not get to Berlin before the Russians. Most interesting history! And most importantly, these two towns are beautiful as well as the areas between them.
Much of it was bombed though, multiple times even, during the war. Wageningen has become somewhat of an ugly duckling in my eyes compared to other fortified towns.
bedankt voor deze video. nu weet ik eindelijk waar die bewaakte fietsenstalling ingang is. had tot nu toe alleen de uitgang kunnen vinden het is een heel mooi station geworden dat Ede Wageningen maar alles eromheen is nog een bouwput en verschrikkelijk onduidelijk hoe je overal moet komen. ook erg veel onnodig trappen op en af
Ja, je kunt van dat fietspad boven ook niet zomaar beneden komen met een rolstoel, je moet echt een heel stuk om. Heel vervelend, ik hoop dat ze dat nog aan gaan passen
Fun fact: in former days there was a tramway called Bello. Probably the service stopped some 50 years ago. The name Pico Bello reminds of this history.
It's always a bit sad when the captions in your video indicate a section where the cycling infra is old or not yet upgraded and yet this supposed bad section is still strata above even the best cycling infra in my country.
Over de van Balverenweg en dan linksaf de Dreeslaan op lijkt me sneller en veiliger. Zeker nu er een rotonde aangelegd wordt bij de Molenweg, wat erg veel overlast geeft. Verder heerlijk herkenbaar!
This is a very relaxing video - in fact I drifted off watching it last night! The lack of commentary helps, but that clicking sound on the bike is very soporific. But I'd get it checked out - maybe crank bearings?
9:05 Hoe komt ze weer voor je terecht? Je had haar eerder al ingehaald. Reed ze een kortere route of heeft ze een tweelingzus? Of is er in de video geknipt misschien? 11:54 Rotondebord op z'n kop. Slordig. Die zie je als je erop gaat letten nog best vaak her en der, en ze worden zelden gecorrigeerd. 9:05 You passed her a while ago, yet now she's back ahead of you. Curious. 11:54 Roundabout sign upside down. There's quite a few of those about and they're rarely fixed.
Excellent example of how crappy bike infrastructure still is in a lot of places. No need to say more about bicycle gutters. The "auto-te-gast" street is a nice idea, but as can be seen most drivers still leave cyclists with little room, pass at decent clip and the street is still quite busy. The roundabouts with the cycle path glued to the car path is a feast for blind spots, and given that few people actually check, and even fewer cyclists indicate direction they are less than great. The roadworks, while they leave the cycle path open which is nice, incluide sharp right angles pointy barricades which are very impeding for tadpole trikes (and even the delta trike had to slow down way too much). Now, cue foreigners reading this, scratching their heads wondering how I can see stuff worth complaining about:). But hey, it's getting fixed. Given that Ede and Wageningen share a train station it should have been done ages ago really.
That clicking sound is genuine for a lot of Dutch bikes 🙃 Sadly the bicycle lane did not get better or safer. I hope they make Bennekom to Wageningen better.
You started at the new station Ede-Wageningen, bad design for cyclists. They made the entrance of the bicycle parking on the first level. At least half of the cyclist will come from the Ede side of the station. That means they have to cycle under the tracks to get to the parking. Than cycle uphill to the entrance and than go down the stairs to get to the platforms. I cannot help but feel that it could have been much more practical with an entrance at the ground level. Sometimes cyclist arrive at the bottom level and you have to tell them to go back to the crossing where you started and from there they can go to the entrance. That will take at least 5 minutes, just enough to miss your train. And when you arrive by train at peakhour you have 2 rows of at least 20 people to get through the very slow turnstiles to get into the parking. And dont push the doors because they will block. Some major accidents have occured at the first roundabout. I think 7 in 3 months, so this route is in no way very safe, yet. And it will be extended at the other side of the station to the center of Ede.
Nah, as long as the level of corruption is high and the level of interest of city planners is low, we in Brazil and Russia will be satisfied with bicycle lanes made of paint 🙄
I agree. Also the new roundabout is an abomination. Some big accidents already happened. Going to a both way situation and from freeway for cars too freeway for bicycles. They already put up a big tekst flashing sign up. That in combination of kids buying electric motor-bicycles. Safety is quick becoming worse. From Ede to Bennekom did not get better. From Bkom to Wageningen always has been garbage. Maybe also make a clip of driving from Ede to Wageningen over the Willem Drees Laan That bicycle freeway was a big upgrade. I hope they don't throw al the money thru the drain in the next peace of bicycle lane.
5:41 what is the correct path for pedestrians? The pedestrian shoulder looks really narrow after the roundabout as well. Is it a problem? I don't think I would see a pedestrian path that narrow in Finland.
In general, the preferred mode of travel is by bike (Edit: in this/my village), so you won’t see that many pedestrians, and the infrastructure for them may be lacking a bit. But when necessary, walking and cycling can be mixed because they are both slow modes of transport. Cyclist will just cycle around you if needed.
@@daaaaaaaaaaavid that doesn't sound too different to the combined bike/pedestrian paths we mostly have in Finland then. Would you ever push a stroller or walk a dog there (or both at the same time)? In Finland, I expect there to be a dedicated pedestrian path nearby if there's a dedicated bike path. Otherwise, it will be marked as a combined bike/pedestrian path. However, the law does state that pedestrians should use the side of the road or bike path if there is no pedestrian path. Come to think of it, we could probably change all combined paths to bike paths and it would change nothing but the sign.
In my experience of NL you rarely see a separate footpath for pedestrians outside busy urban areas. There's a road for cars and a path for bikes. If you want to walk, take your pick!
Your new bicycle path is stunning and the old one is pretty good, too -- better than what we have. If enough of us send you one Euro, will you fix your bike?
Although the route is improved somewhat since I used it I find it infuriating that they didn't take some small extra steps. @ 19:50 You enter Hoevestein and there doesn't seem to be any traffic calming. @ 20:48 there is a busstop where the bus stops on the street, how are you supposed to cycle around that? We all know that students aren't going to stop and wait so they'll probably take the sidewalk and cut off people who just got off the bus. The entire Churchillweg isn't really traffic calmed either by the looks of it. And finally the Pico Bellopad ends at a horrible intersection, a missed oppertunity to extend it at least as far as Hotel De Wereld, close Bevrijdingsstraat to car traffic (except for deliveries ofcourse) and the ride to the center would be so much better. Now ofcourse, I didn't go and read any of the future plans for these areas so it might be that they'll be tackled in other projects. To me it just seems unbelieveable they didn't do it in this project.
5:18 OMG I know that sound! 🙉🚲 My bike makes the same noise 😅 Have you figured out what's causing it? 🤔 Maybe we can solve this mystery together! 🕵️♂️🔧
Have you checked if the wheels make that sound when the pedals aren't moving? That may narrow it down. Sounds like this but faster can be caused by something hitting the spokes. This specific sound may be the chain hitting something. Another similar sound could be the pedals scraping by the chain protector
In case this is an actual question or others may read this & ask themselves the same: Marco te Brömmelstroet, professor of Urban Mobility Futures at UvA(one of the universities in Amsterdam) and he uses social media as @fietsprofessor
Whoa, did anyone else catch this? 👀 At 4:28, the cyclist passes a person on a tricycle 🚲💨 But then at 9:07, suddenly the tricycle is in front of him! 😮 How did that happen?! 🤔 I solved this mystery and it's not teleportation or a secret shortcut 🕵️♂️ Any guesses on what's going on here? 🧐🔍
I guess BicycleDutch took a wrong turn on a roundabout and was overtaken by the tricyclist...but that's just a wild guess and could never happen in reality!
No this is NOT an improvement from the original bycycle lanes from Ede to Bennekom. Tghe two way lanes were safe and good. They ruined it. Biggest problem is the roundabouts. Those roundabouts with bycicle traffic coming from two sides is very dangerous. Car drivers wil have a problem spotting cyclist in time. I guarantee there will be deadly collisions there. And then there is the moronic cycle roads. Where you had proper seperate cycling paths on both sides of the road. Now you force cars and cycles o the same road. And yes those cars need to be there because they are mostly local traffic. I use to cycle along these roads often and what they turn it into is a farce.
I’m fascinated by the magical tricycle rider :)
She has electric assist and knows a shortcut:)
Or maybe I took a wrong turn and managed to hide that in the video. In the mean time she passed me. 🙃
@@BicycleDutch Nah, that can't be it. She teleported for sure. 😉
@@BicycleDutch normally you would go straight at the Y-split entering Bennekom... you went left. Felt very scary watching it as that has been a one way road for ages. Apparently, going straight is also faster ;-). Nevermind, it was after the tunnel section, so indeed you cut the video 😀
@@coenwit8602 The left turn there is in fact the route of the main cycle route. I also noticed that the "old" route is shorter.
i grow up with the Churchillweg 136 in Wageningen as the house from my grandparents and i was watching the ride , to find out it was closed . My grandmothers family was living in that street for many years ( still maybe some of her family). Greetings from out of China. and thank you for showing the trip to memory lane.
Sounds like one of the crank arms is hitting the cycle frame . ( i had the same happen to me after a run-in with a inattentive driver at a intersection.)
Most of the time it was riding besides a busy and NOISY provincial road.
As an active cycling Dutchie I hate cycling besides or on busy and noisy provincial roads.
And I always try to find the more scenic green signed routes. Which sometimes, but not always, might be a little longer but is so much more relaxed to cycle.
As a resident in the area, I don't really see the benefit of this new situation yet. Most of the bike lanes were separate from the car roads already. In Wageningen, they actually joined a bike lane with the rest of the road and called it a 'bicycle zone'. Not that the speeding cars on it really care.
It was really busy during rush hour. If a train full of students arrived at the station, it wasn’t nice to cycle to the campus of Wageningen (and I think regular commuters agree on this too). The paths were too narrow and cyclists needed to yield often to cars. The yielding has become less, but will be even more reduced. I think you mean the Churchillweg in Wageningen. The municipality has reduced the number of cars using the street and the project of ‘Beter Bereikbaar Wageningen’ will take care of that too. So it should not be a problem that bikes and cars are mixed there.
I lived in Wageningen some 7 years ago, was surprised to see how Churchillweg had changed!
By deleting the irritating sound of the 'tics' of the broken bicycle, the ride is so much smoother.....
🌹
We rode this area in July. It is next to the British Market Garden landing site. At the Airborne Museum in Osterbeek I picked a fairly new book on how spys leaked information on the British parachute landing. The Russians gave the information to the Germans to insure that Allied Forces would not get to Berlin before the Russians. Most interesting history! And most importantly, these two towns are beautiful as well as the areas between them.
Much of it was bombed though, multiple times even, during the war. Wageningen has become somewhat of an ugly duckling in my eyes compared to other fortified towns.
bedankt voor deze video. nu weet ik eindelijk waar die bewaakte fietsenstalling ingang is. had tot nu toe alleen de uitgang kunnen vinden
het is een heel mooi station geworden dat Ede Wageningen maar alles eromheen is nog een bouwput en verschrikkelijk onduidelijk hoe je overal moet komen. ook erg veel onnodig trappen op en af
Ja, je kunt van dat fietspad boven ook niet zomaar beneden komen met een rolstoel, je moet echt een heel stuk om. Heel vervelend, ik hoop dat ze dat nog aan gaan passen
Fun fact: in former days there was a tramway called Bello. Probably the service stopped some 50 years ago. The name Pico Bello reminds of this history.
Last passenger service on that track was in 1937.
3:56 Oh I see a tricycle! :D That really warms my heart. :)
We should thank Norway for inventing and making this possible! So join me in saying: THANK YOU NORWAY!!!
WTF! Het
Impressive stuff by the great Dutch road and traffic engineers...
It's always a bit sad when the captions in your video indicate a section where the cycling infra is old or not yet upgraded and yet this supposed bad section is still strata above even the best cycling infra in my country.
Over de van Balverenweg en dan linksaf de Dreeslaan op lijkt me sneller en veiliger. Zeker nu er een rotonde aangelegd wordt bij de Molenweg, wat erg veel overlast geeft. Verder heerlijk herkenbaar!
This is a very relaxing video - in fact I drifted off watching it last night! The lack of commentary helps, but that clicking sound on the bike is very soporific. But I'd get it checked out - maybe crank bearings?
9:05 Hoe komt ze weer voor je terecht? Je had haar eerder al ingehaald. Reed ze een kortere route of heeft ze een tweelingzus? Of is er in de video geknipt misschien?
11:54 Rotondebord op z'n kop. Slordig. Die zie je als je erop gaat letten nog best vaak her en der, en ze worden zelden gecorrigeerd.
9:05 You passed her a while ago, yet now she's back ahead of you. Curious.
11:54 Roundabout sign upside down. There's quite a few of those about and they're rarely fixed.
I was just wondering what are the odds of coming across two trikes like that, lol. There's at least a cut at 5:50
@@jattikuukunen Good catch. That must be it. He stopped, she passed him, and he then caught up again.
I made a full circle on the roundabout not knowing where to go. That’s when she passed me.
Excellent example of how crappy bike infrastructure still is in a lot of places. No need to say more about bicycle gutters. The "auto-te-gast" street is a nice idea, but as can be seen most drivers still leave cyclists with little room, pass at decent clip and the street is still quite busy. The roundabouts with the cycle path glued to the car path is a feast for blind spots, and given that few people actually check, and even fewer cyclists indicate direction they are less than great. The roadworks, while they leave the cycle path open which is nice, incluide sharp right angles pointy barricades which are very impeding for tadpole trikes (and even the delta trike had to slow down way too much). Now, cue foreigners reading this, scratching their heads wondering how I can see stuff worth complaining about:). But hey, it's getting fixed. Given that Ede and Wageningen share a train station it should have been done ages ago really.
Moaning on a high level from a dutch view. :)
jay, a ride through my hometown, even saw my parents house pass by :-D
That clicking sound is genuine for a lot of Dutch bikes 🙃
Sadly the bicycle lane did not get better or safer.
I hope they make Bennekom to Wageningen better.
there is a clicking sound like you left your car blinkers or alarm-lights on when you are pedalling
That would drive me bonkers. Probably a rental/OV-fiets?
Hopefully not his knees
You started at the new station Ede-Wageningen, bad design for cyclists. They made the entrance of the bicycle parking on the first level. At least half of the cyclist will come from the Ede side of the station. That means they have to cycle under the tracks to get to the parking. Than cycle uphill to the entrance and than go down the stairs to get to the platforms. I cannot help but feel that it could have been much more practical with an entrance at the ground level. Sometimes cyclist arrive at the bottom level and you have to tell them to go back to the crossing where you started and from there they can go to the entrance. That will take at least 5 minutes, just enough to miss your train. And when you arrive by train at peakhour you have 2 rows of at least 20 people to get through the very slow turnstiles to get into the parking. And dont push the doors because they will block.
Some major accidents have occured at the first roundabout. I think 7 in 3 months, so this route is in no way very safe, yet. And it will be extended at the other side of the station to the center of Ede.
I HOPE THAT ONE DAY BRAZIL CAN HAVE SUCH AN ATMOSPHERE.
Nah, as long as the level of corruption is high and the level of interest of city planners is low, we in Brazil and Russia will be satisfied with bicycle lanes made of paint 🙄
@@seM1c0l0n it's really true
Hotel "De Wereld" is a great spot to meet up with German friends ; )
Or Canadians!
It's so beautiful 😍
Every time i see you avoid a puddle, i keep wishing i could be there and drive straight through it...
That rhythmic clicking made me think you left your turn signal blinker on.
I agree.
Also the new roundabout is an abomination. Some big accidents already happened. Going to a both way situation and from freeway for cars too freeway for bicycles. They already put up a big tekst flashing sign up. That in combination of kids buying electric motor-bicycles. Safety is quick becoming worse.
From Ede to Bennekom did not get better. From Bkom to Wageningen always has been garbage.
Maybe also make a clip of driving from Ede to Wageningen over the Willem Drees Laan
That bicycle freeway was a big upgrade.
I hope they don't throw al the money thru the drain in the next peace of bicycle lane.
5:41 what is the correct path for pedestrians? The pedestrian shoulder looks really narrow after the roundabout as well. Is it a problem? I don't think I would see a pedestrian path that narrow in Finland.
In general, the preferred mode of travel is by bike (Edit: in this/my village), so you won’t see that many pedestrians, and the infrastructure for them may be lacking a bit. But when necessary, walking and cycling can be mixed because they are both slow modes of transport. Cyclist will just cycle around you if needed.
@@daaaaaaaaaaavid that doesn't sound too different to the combined bike/pedestrian paths we mostly have in Finland then. Would you ever push a stroller or walk a dog there (or both at the same time)?
In Finland, I expect there to be a dedicated pedestrian path nearby if there's a dedicated bike path. Otherwise, it will be marked as a combined bike/pedestrian path. However, the law does state that pedestrians should use the side of the road or bike path if there is no pedestrian path. Come to think of it, we could probably change all combined paths to bike paths and it would change nothing but the sign.
In my experience of NL you rarely see a separate footpath for pedestrians outside busy urban areas. There's a road for cars and a path for bikes. If you want to walk, take your pick!
Your new bicycle path is stunning and the old one is pretty good, too -- better than what we have. If enough of us send you one Euro, will you fix your bike?
It's a NS rental, they have a hard life.
Bike riding is fun
At 12:28 ( or 14:52) I would go left and then right to go left around Wageningen to the busstation 😊
Although the route is improved somewhat since I used it I find it infuriating that they didn't take some small extra steps. @ 19:50 You enter Hoevestein and there doesn't seem to be any traffic calming. @ 20:48 there is a busstop where the bus stops on the street, how are you supposed to cycle around that? We all know that students aren't going to stop and wait so they'll probably take the sidewalk and cut off people who just got off the bus. The entire Churchillweg isn't really traffic calmed either by the looks of it.
And finally the Pico Bellopad ends at a horrible intersection, a missed oppertunity to extend it at least as far as Hotel De Wereld, close Bevrijdingsstraat to car traffic (except for deliveries ofcourse) and the ride to the center would be so much better.
Now ofcourse, I didn't go and read any of the future plans for these areas so it might be that they'll be tackled in other projects. To me it just seems unbelieveable they didn't do it in this project.
5:18 OMG I know that sound! 🙉🚲 My bike makes the same noise 😅 Have you figured out what's causing it? 🤔 Maybe we can solve this mystery together! 🕵️♂️🔧
Have you checked if the wheels make that sound when the pedals aren't moving? That may narrow it down. Sounds like this but faster can be caused by something hitting the spokes. This specific sound may be the chain hitting something. Another similar sound could be the pedals scraping by the chain protector
10:21 whomp whomp, whomp whomp (Tokyo drift music)
I live there
MIJN STAD
EDE NR.#1
O no, a bike with a tic, if you are Dutch, that’s a no-no.
Is Marco a professor, who specializes in cycling? Or is he a professor that just cycles ; )
It's not either/or www.uva.nl/en/profile/b/r/m.c.g.tebrommelstroet/m.c.g.te-brommelstroet.html
In case this is an actual question or others may read this & ask themselves the same:
Marco te Brömmelstroet, professor of Urban Mobility Futures at UvA(one of the universities in Amsterdam)
and he uses social media as @fietsprofessor
I hear a verry old bike
7:55 These ladies would block an entire sideway in germany. And yelling at them is the standard.
Yelling is always the standard in Germany
If that’s a hire bike you’re riding I hope you reported that it needs some attention. If it’s yours I hope you’ve got it fixed by now.
6470 Conroy Skyway
17:16 panne, pech
Whoa, did anyone else catch this? 👀 At 4:28, the cyclist passes a person on a tricycle 🚲💨 But then at 9:07, suddenly the tricycle is in front of him! 😮 How did that happen?! 🤔 I solved this mystery and it's not teleportation or a secret shortcut 🕵️♂️ Any guesses on what's going on here? 🧐🔍
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I guess BicycleDutch took a wrong turn on a roundabout and was overtaken by the tricyclist...but that's just a wild guess and could never happen in reality!
practiaclly ！（desc is spelled wrong）
Petrol driven scooters should be banned for safety and environmental reasons. It's a bicycle path!!
And for health reasons. I have a long disease and being slowly overtaken by a scooter is taking your breath away, literally.
No this is NOT an improvement from the original bycycle lanes from Ede to Bennekom. Tghe two way lanes were safe and good. They ruined it. Biggest problem is the roundabouts. Those roundabouts with bycicle traffic coming from two sides is very dangerous. Car drivers wil have a problem spotting cyclist in time. I guarantee there will be deadly collisions there.
And then there is the moronic cycle roads. Where you had proper seperate cycling paths on both sides of the road. Now you force cars and cycles o the same road. And yes those cars need to be there because they are mostly local traffic. I use to cycle along these roads often and what they turn it into is a farce.