Panel 7: Is Kashmir the gateway of South Asia’s Peace Possibilities? Ishtiaq Ahmed & Hamid Bashani
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Panel Seven: Is Kashmir the gateway of South Asia’s Peace Possibilities? #CSALF23Panelists: Ishtiaq Ahmed, Hamid Bashani - Moderator: Tahir Gora
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Hamid Bashani speaks with honesty and integrity.Very knowledgable and upfront
Hamid Bashani is an example of perfection with pure and total truth .
Convert and marry a Muslim, you'll find more good examples.
& Many interviews of Ishtiaq Ahmed reveal that the guy loves to praise himself😂
But he's a knowledgeable person..
Though he is knowledgeable but his heart is not fare he hates Sanatan
@@user-vm5mv5xl1h They may get out of Pakistan and may even get out of Islam, but hatred for polyatheist Hindus cannot get out of their hearts and minds.
Missing Tarek Fatah sahab very much 🥹🥹🥹
yeah, aaj agar wo hote to is program me jaroor aate 🥺🥺😢
🙏🏻
Yes, we all miss him. He was true son of Ma Bharti
He was more brutal than Bashani sir. Bashani sir, is a gentleman and respects etiquette. But Tarek fatah is a fire brand... yes, I really miss him.
@@preethamkumar125 Legacy of Tarek Fatah will go on forever ♾️
Never ever bashani sahab has tried to score brownie points.i repeat never ever,he is the one of the best informed person in among India and Pakistan.
Few things become clear today among two giants. Bashani is legal background and understanding of International Law so he is more 👍👍👍 objective and global. Whereas in prof mind his school age hate based education with not only hate Kafirs but Shia etc. etc. has residual.
In fact, Ishtiyaq felt threatened by him.
Quite shocked with Professor’s personal attack on Barrister. Old buffoon has no tolerance at all. Massive dissappointment
@@ka-jx8lj Professor Istiaq may be sound with historical facts but his words smell of 'AL-Takkiya' [an officially accepted form of cheating in Islam with Kafirs thru any means including sweet talks]
@@markben5729Bhai uske DNA mai bhi Lahori Churan bhara hua hai.
Professor is either very innocent or very cunning... he wants a redundant border so that jihadis get a free access! But Bashani sir is spot on with his opinion.
Dr ishitak just wants peace but the Pakistani can't be trusted. Especially the ttp n Taliban n army. Can't change them
One should b practical. Pakistanis r deeply radicalised people. In India itself Muslims r not peaceful. How can u expect peace with radicaliised Pakistanis (Muslims)
Very cunning.
Professor is right on track I. E. jihad.. Aiming 72 hoors..
Probably ‘soft attack’ from ISI against Indian minds in disguise of an intellect who apparently rubbishes paki narrative but in disguises pushes the same agenda
As professor & Writer Ishtiaq ji is good but as a intellectual he is radical ! So choose wisely 🙏
Read between the lines. He doesn't mean well for Bharat.
Beware....
Barrister Bashani is straight and he doesn't mince words. He speaks real stuff.
Totally agree..
I don't think that professor is cunning but he has certain biases he wants to live with.This is his biggest problem.Barister saheb is more straight forward and honest.
Professor is urban jihadi .he always remind that Pakistan has atom bomb. He indirectly threaten india.
Agreed
Pakistani intellectual are confused as well 😂😂.... And other side Sir Bashani is great 👍
Hamid Bashani sir spoke 100% cruel truth.
Hamid Bashani is very honest and he is really a self respected person. There are no question about LOC accepted as International Border....Kasmiri people should have their own point of view. We all should respeect that.
Hamid bashani sir's analysis skill and understanding of topic always inspires us. No fiction to self interpretation only hard hitting truth.
Hamid Bashani is very true and to be followed.
Excellent detailing by Bashani Saheb as usual.
Once Dr Ishtiaq is countered he gets angry.
The point putforth by Dr. Ishtiaq is somehow peace is to be made, whereas Bashani Saheb says that peace is not possible as long as army is ruling pakistan
Always!
Not just army rule, the whole Hindu hating narrative has to be corrected before they even imagine peace with us
Peace is an impossibility without a de-radicalisation program that runs for 3 generations, i.e. 100-120 years atleast.
Barrister Bashani sir is true intellectual and that is very clear in his speech.
Hamid Bashani is an intellectual. Very good points presented by him.
When Hamid Bashani speak truth then some Pakistani & Jihadi mindset people provoked 😂
Yes, that's why we should boycott these Pakistani youtubers and intellectual like Ishtiaq Ahmed, Amara iftikhaar, Parvez Hoodboy.. they are Islamist radicals
Bashani sir we really proud of you sir your a very intelligent man bcoz u telling the real truth 🙏 we love you so much ❤
Well done Bhashani bhai. I appreciate your stand being your fellow citizens from Jammu I support this.
Hamid Bashani sir huge respect for you. ❤
Bashani sir is always spot on! Bina laag lapet ke seedhi Baat.. Based on facts and objectivity.
Ishtiaq Ahmed hyper ho jate hai...jab koi usase little bit alag Fact produce karta hai... Ishtiaq have to learn a lot
Hamid Bashani saheb is a great person & knowledge discussion .Thanks .
Barrister Sahab ka hold subject par itna solid depth hai ki professor Sahab intolerance ho gaya 😂😂
Today I'm seeing a different professor. His solution is too vague and unimplementable. Bashani Sahab however, is very clear and unwavering in his outlook. He speaks like the son of Kashmir who wants justice done.
Bashani Saab is absolutely right & practical
Hamid bashani sir rocks....very sharp and speaks truth
Very well said Barister Bhasani. Your arguments are so great that no one can argue against them.
Mr. Bashani was so patient n calm.
Hamid Bashani has incredible depth in the subject. Also he puts it forward in very eloquent manner.
Bashani Ji is spot on.
His example of Pakistan unilaterally abrogating 35 in GB in 1974 is worth remembering. The Indian Government had already used that example. Mr Bashani is worthy of respect, thanks to his honesty and his directness.
Dr Ahmed is a true academic, willing to defend the rigor of his research against all comers and critics! Sadly, his understanding of Bharat, which civilisationally is very removed from the Hobbesian ideas of the individual greed being the ruling principle of life. That is, btw, totally the Abrahamic conception of things.
Half baked historian Dr.ishtiaq ahmed at its best cook and fry anything...
He is urban jihadi.he use Islamic doctrine like HUDHEBIYA,TAQQIYYA,KITMAN,TAWARIYA.
He is rather distorian instead of historian.
Hamid Bashani - spoke his ❤️ heart. If POK goes with Pakistan - Next Afghanistan is sure!! Pakistan has no sympathy to Kashmiris because their wish is Gazwa hind, water and make it Sunni radical state.
Truth is blunt & sharp. That's what Hamid Bhasani is saying. We need to call spade a spade.
20:00Salute to Hamid Bashani for destroying Professor Hypocrite in seconds
Brave son of the soil Dr. Bashani. Clear and blunt truth.
UN this session Mr. Bashaani is on a very sharp, straight line of thought process. Bharat aba pyar muhabbat se uba chukaa hai . Bharat kuchha nahi karegaa , jo karanaa hai vo pakistan ko .
Professor Istiaq may be sound with historical facts but his words smell of 'AL-Takkiya' [an officially accepted form of cheating in Islam with Kafirs thru any means including sweet talks]
No matter how hard Pakistanis try, no one can save Pakistan from destruction.
Since 1947 every Pakistani has been saying that Pakistan has talent.
But why not visible????
The talent begins with flat earth and sky is a lid. this is what their arab deen says.
You are watching Jehadi TH-camrs like Sohaib 😊 they are earning money and laughing at us Indians. I have blocked each of them.
इतका अहमद जलेबी कितनी भी बना ले आतंकी मुल्क का कोई बोर्डर नहीं खोलना चाहियेगा
ESI bat nhi pakistan mai bhi bade ache log rehate h lekin vha ka aam aadmi lagbhag her ek jihadi h lekin visa k sath log aane Jane chahiye agr halat normal ho to
ये सब वही J हादी मानसिकता वाले है कभी भी किसी पौरकी पर भरोसा मत करना भाई ये पीठ पर ही मारेगें। ये सिर्फ कुछ लाहौरी पंजाबियों की अमन की आशा है।
Favorite Cold Drink of Sir Bashani .
Sprite: Sidhi baat no bakwaas 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂👌👌
Totally agree with Bashani Saab! We are well aware of the typical Pakistani lies and deceit under the garb of peace and harmony.
Hamid Bashani Ji I total agree with you while Prof Ishtiaq is artificial soft face of Mullahs for Gazwae hind
Buddha sacchai sae ukhar Gaya
Terrific discussion, truth spoken, God bless you all vakil bashani, has stated hard facts, three cheers for him
Great discussion. Congratulations for successfully organizing it and thanks to the guests and panelists as well.
Pakistani mindset in professor remains alive. This often comes alive whenever he is sharing stage with another person. I watched him few times when he is intolerant to the opinion of other panelist.
Ishtiak sahab hamesha apne mtlb ka sach batate hain, ab is age me itne bhi munafiq nahi hona chahiye.. Shame on this mindset 👎👎👎
Read up what Istiaq Ahmed columns in pak media over the years. Rabid Hinduism and Hindu hater. Puts on a soft mask but is hard line Islamist to the core. Tries to obfuscate issues by slimely changing the conversation. Many Indians are fooled by him.
Hamid Bashani sahab 🙏🎩 hats off
Hamid bashani sahab what a fantastic man, clear thought, perfect communication. Poisoning truth.
M.R Bashani is right ✅️ ye doctor hamesha Pakistan kaa side le ke bate karte hai. Kuchdin pahele Bharat ko bahut chota karte the. Or abb Bharat kaa achha halat dekh ke abb India kaa friend banane ke liye hame all ready hame mitha dhamki de te hai. Haam bol chuke hame koi rista nahi chahete fir bhi ye hamr dar dikha ke rista banana chahete hai
Love from India bashani sir❤, a true germ
Barister Hamid Bhashani has always presented deeply understood and judicially correct commentaries studded with facts and neutrality.
Hamid Bashani is absolutely unbiased and well articulate thie issues and gv a peace of mind to this Radical Grandfather from Sweden ....
“Trying to score brownie points” Why are so bloody harsh Dr. Ishtiaq ? Why such a harsh reaction ? Have been watching Hamid Bashani for at least 10 years, always found him logical, sensible and factual. Dr. Isthtiaq you need to control your emotions. I was expecting an apology from a learned person like you sometime during the conversation after you puked that nonsense. I felt so sad watching a loud mouth accuse Hamid in such a manner. To quote Martin Luther “You are not only responsible for what you say, but also for what you do not say”.
Pls be careful next time before you utter such senseless and absolute crap. Respect you for your books but this was a real low. It takes years to gain respect but seconds to loose. Pls don’t do this again. Keep it respectful.
I like professor a lot but today he was unnecessarily rude with Bashani........shocked
Careful wid professor
I wish professor was/is enthusiastic about preaching to his own people and government about stepping away from hatred towards India... It's easy to keep peddling this nonsense about "normal relations". Yeah he was outright rude with Mr Bashani
Very good and informative video. Truth has been stated and Pakistan's narrative about right of self determination has been exposed. Hamid Bashani saheb is absolutely correct in his analysis.
Well, Bashani saheb is a wonderful human being and Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed saheb also well learned person.
Respect to both as a person and their opinions.
Is not it a fact that both India and Pakistan signed a Stand Still Agreement with Hari Singh and Pakistan didn't honour the pact and sent Mujahideen into Jammu and Kashmir, which is the genesis of the problem?
I think India didn't sign the Standstill Agmt, although it was mooted.. Pakistan, of course, broke the agreement as they couldn't keep it in their pants..
Excellent discussion. We need more of such discussions.
Bashani sahab is dead honest on peace in real form. His argument is like a legal argument, neutral of emotions and pretention. Very few can understand the Kashmir issue better than him , because he is absolutely honest.
Bashani sahib hats of to you and very sensible discussion.
I missed epic 'Dekhiy ji' from Bashani saab
Hamid badhani and Tahir Gora sahab has truly taken the baton forward from Tarek Singh Fatehi
Istiaq Ahmed’s formula of making LOC the international border is a non starter. That train left the station when Musharraf launched Kargil. Now its all of Kashmir incl. Gilgit to be returned to India. That’s it. No ifs or buts or maybes.
Ye ishtiaq sahab bade chalu hain ..inki baatein aur maksad dono alag hai.....
Excellent discussion sir, thanks.
The professor is in Lala land and doesn't want to know or concile the reality. Bashani sir is spot on.
Well done Bashani Sir... Seedhi baat no Bakwas.. I appreciate your point of view and assessment.
Barrister Hamid bashani sir is very logical person.I really like his statement.becuse he is rational person.
Dr.Ishtiaq Ahmed forget the fact that in history India given many times a chance to peace to Pakistani estebilishment but never ever since inception of Kashmir Issue, Pakistani forces invaded Kashmir on basis of violence and continued occupied POK even not meet condition of UN resolutions.
This video must be seen by entire population of Pak and India
Bhasani ne Professor ki le li,,,
No Aman is possible, Till the time two nation theory alive. It’s final no need too much discussion.
I appreciate Hamid Basani sahab for bold straightforward dpeking
Truthful discussion
Salute Hamid sir❤.
Namaste bashani Saab..❤ from odisha, india
Hello Mr. Gora👋, with all due respected Sirs, I just want to know from Prof. Ishtiaq, what does he mean by saying "repeatedly from every PLATFORM that "WHY DON'T INDIA 🇮🇳
HAVE RELATIONSHIP LIKE EUROPE 🇪🇺? My dear Sir, their was a conflict in EUROPE 🇪🇺 and it solved? Why? Because they had problems within themselves on the same RELIGION? Whereas India🇮🇳 has problems with pakistan's🇵🇰 TWO NATION THEORY?
Why don't Prof. Ishtiaq understand this SIMPLE LOGIC? EUROPE 🇪🇺 has nothing to compare with INDIA'S 🇮🇳problems. (2 ) Problem is PAKISTAN 🇵🇰? THANKS ❤️ AND JAI HIND ❤️ 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Dr. Ishtiaq sahab you are very learned but you seem to get angry when your views are challenged. I have never seen Bashani sahab try and score brownie points. He does however share his views without hesitation. Bashani sahab is 100% correct on matters whether it is Pakistan pushing nuclear blackmail, or disintegration of Pakistan and emigration to Europe and its consequences or the impact of Pakistan’s bankruptcy on International economics. These arguments are threats.
Ishitiaq sahab you are needlessly bringing RSS into the mix. Bashani sahab is correct when he observes that peace will have to be sought by Pakistan unconditionally and proactively. Although I believe that peace will finally emerge unconditionally through irrelevance of Pakistan and withIndia lovingly but firmly ignoring the enfant terrible of the subcontinent - namely Pakistan - as India is doing presently.
I feel that intellectuals need to be honest and demonstrate integrity as Bashani sahab does. His logic, and intellectual integrity are unimpeachable. He is refreshing in getting to the core of the issues and being truthful without attempting to draw a false equivalence or trying to balance the narrative.
Tahir sahab you continue to amaze and inspire. Listening to Dr. Ishitiaq sahab, Bashani sahab and you is always informative.
Thank you.
Dr Ishtiaq saab is an another knowledgable gentleman who speaks the facts without any partiality . I respect him and salute him for his justifiable comments whenever he is asked to give .
Gif bless yo and all
Always a pleasure to listen to these gentlemen. A fan of Bashani sahab.
Hamid bashani sahab is a gem of a person on the spot and true thinking
I believe that attack on anywhere in Kashmir taken as attack on Delhi or Mumbai or any territory of India and dealt according to that
Hamid Bashani has never disappointed intellectual thirst of honest minds. May you have good health and happiness
Gora sahab bahat achha ki aap Istiaq Sahab aur Basani Sahab jaise diggaj Rajanitigyan ko bulake ham ko marg darsan karai isiliye aapko hardik dhanyabad . Jai Hind ❤️
Barrister Hamid bashani argument was not against ishtiaq sir but it was against pak foreign policy itself, Dr. Ishtiaq couldn't hear the truth that's why he was so disrespectful against Hamid bashani. Trade & Aman cannot happen until Pakistan stops propogating terrorism. Period.
I m With u Bishsani jee 🙏🇮🇳
Bashani sir is a pleasure listening to. He talks on fact always. I agree with him completely.
Tareh Fatah saab was really a great , blunt , fearless and knowledgeable person
We all miss him . May god rest his soul in peace .
Hameed Bhashani saab is another person with the great knowledge about politics . He speaks truth and without fearing . He is never in one side and gives his frank and true comments
God bless Hamid Bhashani
Vasani Sir is very practical and clear in his thought.
Proffessor saab ka Andar doosra Aadmi hain, pahchanna bahooth muskil hain.
I HAD GREAT RESPECT FOR THE PROFESSOR , TILL I WATCHED HIS BIAS WHILE REPONDING TO INDIAN AND PAKISTANI U TUBERS.
HIS VISIT TO INDIA JUST AFTER HIS VISIT TO PAKISTAN THEN CREATED DOUBTS.
I always knew that all these so-called Pakistan-centric discussions, by those who have Pakistan's welfare in mind, would be skewed in terms of the viewpoints of the speakers, except for the occasional panelist who speaks matter-of-factly. I had no doubt that Dr. Ishtiaq Ahmed is a true patriot at heart, desiring his country to surpass India in various walks of life and fields, even though he reluctantly acknowledges India's achievements since independence. I could easily discern in his mind that, deep in his heart, he wishes for Pakistan to excel in every area. When that doesn't happen, he becomes easily frustrated, and this frustration is evident in every word he utters.
So, it is time for Indians to shed any emotions they may harbor for the kind words spoken about India by Pakistani thinkers, analysts, or anyone of note and realize that these words may not truly reflect their inner sentiments. Lastly, simply obsessing over Pakistan won't do any good for Indians. They should examine these Pakistani viewpoints from a dispassionate vantage point to gain a more accurate understanding.
Mr prof. Why every Pakistani tell lie in front of cameras
Nice discussion ❤️
Barrister bashani sir.....chhaa gaye..
Dr Ishtiaq can not take criticism or disagreement. Dr. Sahib, while trying to be humble, is an egotistical person who craves admiration and blind followers
Great event Gora saheb
Very good combination of discussion on this matters by great man
Just yesterday we lost 3 highly decorated soldiers and a highly faithful kent.
These people are talking of peace.
We don't want any porous borders
*TBH we don't want any tezarat or trade we also don't want people to people contact with pakistan , no one is talking about the elephant in the room which is islam , though they have the same DNA but they are different from us, let the situation to be remain in status quo and let all the discussion should happen in 3 rd country , we don't want pakistan to become properous from our hard earned money, we want comedy which happens on a daily basis in Banana islamia republic of pakistan* ...
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