How to Wire Different Sizes of Camper Solar Panels Together - Effects of Mismatched Solar Panels

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  • @HumblyServingGod
    @HumblyServingGod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    You, Will Prowse, and Hobotech should all get together and have an insane conversation. Thanks man.

    • @lifesartnow2730
      @lifesartnow2730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, my favorite you tubers as well 👍

    • @caseykelso1
      @caseykelso1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wouldn't understand a word of it 🤣

    • @invisibilianone6288
      @invisibilianone6288 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I could only take some wire, dirt, air and water, to create a power supply...lol, these three gentlemen could probably do it🎯😁☕

    • @josepeixoto3715
      @josepeixoto3715 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hmmm...

  • @11Bretired
    @11Bretired 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is one of the best solar videos I’ve seen. Thank you!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful. Cheers!

  • @Moon007raker
    @Moon007raker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here is a guy that can really teach useful information.

  • @Nifty-Stuff
    @Nifty-Stuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow, you clearly put a LOT of time into this (script, diagrams, filming, editing, etc.)! This is the best video on explaining the pros / cons and how-to on combining mismatched cells / panels. THANKS!!!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @wlewis1217
      @wlewis1217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed! Your explanation is awesome! Thanks man!

    • @riverzin3186
      @riverzin3186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLORISTlife Yea that was great, thanks. In the last example, why can't they just wire them all in series?

    • @evil17
      @evil17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@riverzin3186 All in series would overvolt the charge controller.

    • @riverzin3186
      @riverzin3186 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evil17 Thanks for the advise

  • @jethrob258
    @jethrob258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I'm so glad you're continuing with this series. It helps so many people.

    • @dwight7651
      @dwight7651 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just learned a lot
      Thank you

  • @GarthVader78
    @GarthVader78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last example of adding an additional panel that cuts output in half is super informative.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @jonchaudo8204
      @jonchaudo8204 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the last example why not wire 3 panels in series ( 51V &11.76A) and then wire the other four in series also (68V & 11.76A)/ . now you could wire these two series array in parallel get you 51V * 23.52A =. 1200W

  • @winstonsmiths2449
    @winstonsmiths2449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dude, you are tied with Dave Poz, Tin Hat Ranch, and Will Prose for the best info/teaching in solar. Each of you excel over the others in your specific areas. This is meant as a complement. I prefer your speed and detail of info and diagrams are fantastic! I learned more detail and had holes in areas I thought I knew filled in after watching your videos!

  • @abelincoln95
    @abelincoln95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I appreciate the repetition of the formulas and the sums. I learn faster that way. Thank you, sir!

  • @jeremyhall134
    @jeremyhall134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video literally just helped me figure out the mathematic equation for my system. Under perfect factory testing conditions, ill be installing a 98% efficient system. I appreciate it sooo much!

  • @40_weight
    @40_weight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Legend mate. That has simplified everything. I was worried I would lose watts on my mismatched panels. Now I know correct wiring

  • @yayita2024-n5c
    @yayita2024-n5c 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a very good teacher. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. *.*

  • @robbehr8806
    @robbehr8806 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey @robbehr8806, No problem! Glad it helped! :)

  • @lifeinpalawan
    @lifeinpalawan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watched 3 of your videos and think you are an excellent instructor who is clear and totally understandable! Bravo

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

  • @redfish3204
    @redfish3204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the best at this. You actually have real life installs verse talking about "how it can be done" from inside a room. Thank you very much for this great information

  • @illuminatim33
    @illuminatim33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Very informative. I will watch more of your videos...under ideal conditions.

  • @FarqueKnowsWhere
    @FarqueKnowsWhere ปีที่แล้ว

    The diagrams help it sink in Nate thank you, I’ll just watch this video another 3 or 10 times and get a new piece of paper and start again. I usually get professionals to do my electrical work but I want to DIY to understand what I’ve got for remote travel troubleshooting if something happens.

  • @garymullan6156
    @garymullan6156 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First video explaining solar configuration - you have done a great job creating this. Well done

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful. Cheers!

  • @Salsadepr40
    @Salsadepr40 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What? You just save me from spending unnecessary different size of panel that was not gonna work for my solar array. Thank you. 👍🏼

  • @mr.chisels729
    @mr.chisels729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation of solar panels I've seen yet!! Thanks!!

  • @stephenmallory8613
    @stephenmallory8613 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your video is very good. Explainations and diagrams are spot on!!👍👍 Math is also awsome. The one problem I have is you keep calling it watt's law, the correct terminology is ohm's law. I say this with 49 years of electrical experience. I am not trying to bash your presentation because it is quite good, just putting this out there for information purposes. Keep up the great work!!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How about this since it sounds like you're pretty confident... If I link a credible source that states that watts law is Watts = Amps x Volts and Ohms Law is Voltage = Current x Resistance... you send me $100. Sound good?

    • @TeutonicNordwind
      @TeutonicNordwind 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EXPLORISTlife BOOM LOL

  • @lordaresthefirst
    @lordaresthefirst 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best tutorials on the Internet great job!

  • @omearica-rc6fp
    @omearica-rc6fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please write a book, put the diagrams in your description because I can't afford another book that has everything except what I am looking for. It is a miracle, you speak English. You need to write a book. Please help us. We need to know how to wire that 110W panel we purchased a while back to the 200w panels we bought recently and, oh yeah, there's that 160W panel somewhere. What wires, what design, what connectors or whatever else will I need to get as much as possible out of what I already have. Thank you. I will shut up and subscribe now.

  • @Briansmith-qj9yd
    @Briansmith-qj9yd ปีที่แล้ว

    Nate, Thanks for all the work you two have done!

  • @jimpecquex2653
    @jimpecquex2653 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Nate. Really appreciate your efforts to help us all DIY. I have watched all of your DIY solar videos, some of them multiple times to help me learn solar/RV electrical. I've learned a lot but I'm still not 100% confident in my decisions. I would like to have 2 arrays for my RV. One array will have 4 Renogy 100W (18.6V, 5.38A) panels run in S/P 2/2. These panels will be placed on the ground to get better angles to the sun and to help avoid shading. The other set of panels will be placed on the roof of the RV to allow us to charge while on the road (and in camp), but since placement is more challenging they may get obstructed. I was originally looking at the Renogy 200W but given the array specification differences it seems that their performance would be too low. So based on your advice I changed to using the Rich Solar 200W (37.6V, 5.32A) panels wired in parallel, which if I have done my calculations correctly should get us to 99.8% efficiency. Can you please double-check my logic on this? Thanks. Now for my "real" question - do you think I should use 2 solar charge controllers (say a Victron 100/50 and a Victron 150/60) or would we be better served using one solar charge converter (say a Victron 150/100). The price difference between the two S.C.C. approaches is negligible. Thanks for whatever advice you can provide! Jim

  • @fishman992
    @fishman992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great video Nate, long time follower and I've referenced your material for my own RV solar installation. One way to work around the problem with panels of different voltages and amperages and preserve 100% power efficiency is to wire them into a 2nd charge controller. If budget is a concern and you've already spent $$ on the MPPT controller, the second controller can even be a lower cost PWM controller which will still boost overall power output.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely! That would be moving into a dual array setup, which was a bit out of the scope of this video, in particular and if you wanted/needed to mix solar panel sizes in either of the arrays, they math would remain the same and would be treated as 2 totally seperate arrays. I'll be sure to add a video to my queue for when I talk about solar charge controllers to talk about dual array systems.

    • @mikesmultimedia
      @mikesmultimedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EXPLORISTlife Nate. If you have not already done so, please include a jump starter video to discuss multiple array systems. You can discuss the reasons why to add a separate array (under it's own SCC) would be considered, and method's of introducing the other array(s) into the current array.
      For instance, my system is still patched together kinda rigged. But I do think it is worthy to keep my starter battery (veh battery) charged by the panels while charging my solar system battery. I have thought to just provide the veh battery with it's own mini-array and a cheap PWM SCC, but haven't really prioritized that task just yet.
      My other concern regarding multiple arrays (under their own SCC) would be to avoid the blanket affect of shade on all panels connected to the shade affected array. You may have covered this, or Will Prowse did, where if any one part of a panel gets shaded, it, like you indicate regarding the volts/amps affects, can/will affect the entire energy in that entire array assembly. To avoid this, each panel should be given its own SCC so no one panel getting shaded can affect all the other panels if in an Array.
      My first guess would be, when having separate arrays with their own SCC would simply be to connect them (ALL) (+ - out wires) to a common terminal effectively turning all them into one main "in".

    • @johnjones1812
      @johnjones1812 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily as sometimes having two separate charge controller not communicating with each other will send a fully charged reading to the second charge. This sometimes will have only one charger pushing current.

    • @Robert-jm1kk
      @Robert-jm1kk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnjones1812 Good point. When employing 2 charge controllers it is best to have the same model. If not able to do that the battery parameters must be the same between controllers. No need to communicate then.

    • @johnjones1812
      @johnjones1812 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Robert-jm1kk communication between two chargers is necessary for most efficient charging. I have seen where one charger will float charge or sleep in midday because it's reading the charging voltage from the other charge controller not the actual battery state of charge because they require battery voltage for battery status.

  • @pyrogenusa
    @pyrogenusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came across your TH-cam site. Very good explanations on the panels and systems. You have done a very good job on the educational aspects of the web site. Using ABYC as a guide is also brilliant. I wish I had found this 5 years ago when I was exploring solar.

    I am retired, used to run a fire LAB and I am now bored a lot. I set up a test rig a few years ago to verify the different types of 12V 100W panels and types of controllers. I used a 4 tube Florent ceiling light fixture for a constant light source. I put the panels on the light source and fed them through both PWM/MPPT controllers. Measured all the outputs, charging times, loads etc. after a few weeks of testing I came up with the best configuration. I charged a 950 Ah lead acid battery, then I would use a 2Kw Inverter to power up 3 100W light bulbs and drained the battery to 11V, then charged it back full. After doing this 15-20 times I was able to calculate the power generation of each panel and efficiency of the controllers. Then moved outside to do sun source testing. Lots of fun was had.

    I have a 76 VW Camper. I installed the test solar system on the bus. I have a pair 100W panels in series feeding a cheap MMPT controller. I live in the Pacific NW and all the rain and clouds here are not optimum for solar. Plus the latitude of 48 Deg north means the sun angle is low. The standard 12v panel would not reach charging levels all the time. My testing showed only a couple hours a day they would produce charging voltage when in parallel. So I put the panels in series so when each panel made 7-8 Volts the sum of the voltages will start the charging cycle. Current is low 5-7 amps, but acceptable for this application and this actually works very well in this area. I have a pair of 650Ah Lead acid batteries and they stay full with the system. When the batteries are full the controller shuts off the charge and the panels go to open circuit voltage. The bus is parked most of the time and not used much.

    The MPPT controller has a switched load, (like they all do) I am looking to use the excess solar panel power on a restive load after the batteries are full. Since the bus has a refrigerator that runs on Gas/DC/AC. I wired the switched output of the MPPT controller, to the Refrigerator electric heater (12V 1500W) through a diode. I have run this for a few weeks to see how the system will operate. The refrigerator stays cold and occasionally will freeze water on a bright day. This works very well to use the excess power generated so the panel does not sit around at open circuit voltage most of the time. But it's a manual operated, go push the button system. The power is way less than the 1500 watt design but just warm enough to boil the ammonia in the evaporator. I have also wired this into the cheap Chinese diesel heater, it will run on the solar panels alone after it is started and up to temp ( heater fans use 2.5-3.5 amps ) so it will operate on a bright day. It can't start on solar, since the glow plug on start draws 10 amps but after the glow plug cuts out the fan blowers work fine on solar.

    Question for you....

    Do you know of any MPPT controller that will automatically switch to the "external load mode" when the batteries are full. Or a way to automatically switch with a relay to off load the excess power. If the refrigerator load could be automatically switched, it would run on the solar panels when driving and the alternator is keeping the battery voltage above the MPPT cut off voltage. This is not all that important on this bus, but on larger solar systems, the excess power can be sent to the 1500W heater strip, or maybe a hot water heater element. . On larger RV's this could save the panels from the Open Circuit condition which is not good for the panels. .

    Thanks for your time, great job on the solar series.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although it is indeed possible, load dumping is not something I have experience with. Here is a forum post on the Victron discussion boards that may get you pointed in the right direction: community.victronenergy.com/questions/2089/mppt-dump-load.html
      Also... having the panels in 'open circuit condition' is not bad for the panels.

  • @BonaMN
    @BonaMN ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should consider teaching bud, you are spoon feeding me solar stuff ✅🤘🏿

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😁🙌 Teaching IS what I'm doing! 🤣👍 I probably couldn't get a teaching job with how poorly I did in school.

  • @jonathanxing2843
    @jonathanxing2843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video! Just wondering what software do you use to make the diagram?

  • @mikemehlhaff1130
    @mikemehlhaff1130 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was the question I’ve been asking, now that I know how to figure it I can decide what solar panels I need to buy thank you

  • @SchultzStudioz
    @SchultzStudioz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very helpful, thanks. How does using something like SolarEdge power optimizers change the equation? I’m assuming it could be substantial as they regulate the power between individual panels helping minimize the effects of partial shade etc. Would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks

  • @lonniekeen7381
    @lonniekeen7381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nate, you have one of the best DIY sites I have visited. Love your style. I get Volts /Watts / Amps / Parallel / Series. I was missing the part that the MPPT controller actually made the adjustments. Cool, got it.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

  • @dwight7651
    @dwight7651 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate this information... about keeping the panels the same size... and what you explained about adding in a smaller panel, it reduces the overall performance.
    My question is
    If smaller panels are at the beginning(negative end)of a series, then larger panels are added, is the math the same?

  • @seewaage
    @seewaage ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank for the video! After watching it an doing some comparisons, I realized I'd get the best watt output if I wired them all in series. Ended up with 250 watts vs previously I was getting something like 100 watts.

  • @timwright8628
    @timwright8628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nate also I would like to try to put the 340 watt panel on the ground and the other 2 on the roof of my RV could you advise me the best way to connect them up

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm more of a 'teach a man to fish' and not a 'give a man a fish' kind of guy. The video you watched teaches you how to figure that out on your own. You have the knowledge; go apply it!

  • @jaganmangat1989
    @jaganmangat1989 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have tested the same and yes this happens. In order to have proper solar array,we must use equal wattage,voltage,amps and type of panels.

  • @arminius301
    @arminius301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Nate for providing this very comprehensive and understandable information. I have 48V electric riding mower which I'm setting up with solar, so that it will charge as it is running, thereby extending my range. Unfortunately, through using your online PV/mppt calculator I found out that my pv voltage has to be 5V above that of the 48V battery bank. From a lack of knowledge I assumed I could just have one 100W solar panel push wattage into the bank while driving it. Why does a trickle charging solar panel (the little ones you can buy for RV batteries running at about 10 watts) work on a 12V rv battery, since the voltage of that little panel would be way below the 12V of the rv battery. In my case I'd have to provide at least 300 watts of solar panels (there is no way I can fit that many panels on the support rack I'm building on the mower) in order to actuate the dang mppt controller. Is there any alternative way to push the single 100W into the 48V bank? I see this as a major drawback over a 12V or 24V system in some applications. There should be devices that up-converts (inversion from +- 18V PV voltage to +- 48V battery bank voltage) PV voltage to activate the charger at any time? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated since I've already put in a lot of time into this built.

  • @elksetgoranch5088
    @elksetgoranch5088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this is an older video, but you do such a great job explaining I keep rewatching every time I adjust our solar system. Question: Why do all the Solar Generator forums make it sound like “mix & match” paneling is an absolute No-No? You seem to show it can be done? Is there a difference mix & match to a stand alone MPPT vs an all-in-one SoGen, such as Bluetti or EcoFlow? Thank you..

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People think it’s a no-no because they don’t understand or don’t want to learn the math behind the decisions of mismatched solar arrays.

    • @elksetgoranch5088
      @elksetgoranch5088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EXPLORISTlife Thank you for this.. I had been wondering and have 2 manufacture panels.. but are under paneled so that I don’t Mix & Match.. Good to know it’s possible and now off to do some math!

  • @offgridhillbillyhomemade6460
    @offgridhillbillyhomemade6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I've mixed 3 200 watt panels with 4 100 in parallel. So my take away is I've lost 300 watts of power doing that. I've got some wiring to do. Awesome video an explanation of mixed panels. Thank you.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darn! Hopefully you can get it all sorted out!

    • @offgridhillbillyhomemade6460
      @offgridhillbillyhomemade6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EXPLORISTlife wired like I described I was getting 49 amp on that controller. But I have a 50 amp an 60 amp. An 1900 watts of panel. Getting 100.6 amp combined. Wired properly I might get 160 amps. Will do a video on it.

  • @davemac521
    @davemac521 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall a good video to show why you should "not" mix solar panels of different wattage and voltages to a single solar charge. If you have to mix panels of different wattage and voltages place them on separate solar charges. Yes, it may be a little more expensive. But you optimize solar panel output and you will create redundancy. As mentioned in the video a solar array will always be reduced to the efficiency of its lowest rated panels. Always design for optimum production of solar panel arrays. In the end you'll be better off. Also be aware as you increase current you need to increase the wire diameter (lower AWG wire size) which adds both cost and weight. So increase voltage is better than current. And use good quality MPPT charge controller's for higher voltage but keep current low. Let the MPPT solar charger convert the voltage above ~14.6 volts to extra charge current. Finally, have a system properly reviewed by a knowledgeable solar system installer to verify everything is properly sized, from panels, wire runs, charge controller, battery bank and protective breakers. Do everything safe.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That pretty much summed up the last dozen videos on this channel. :)

    • @csawmazamuang
      @csawmazamuang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean we can connect two solar charge controllers output together to the one battery bank.

  • @stevenlane729
    @stevenlane729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A brilliant video, thanks for the awesome explanation of the results of combining different sized panels.

  • @jhenry7406
    @jhenry7406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, now that I'm somewhat confused as to what is the most efficient wiring,for mixed panels,I will be in direct contact in near future for set up help thanks

  • @tannerh3002
    @tannerh3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally found a video explaining this! Thank you!

  • @Tyler-ip5bc
    @Tyler-ip5bc ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos ! I noticed my charge controller which is rated at 100VDC and 40A there is also a Max input rating of power of 12VDC @520W or 24VDC@1040W. Questions. With this power rating would 20VDC be linear to calculate wattage ? With the power Max input does it matter which configuration is used considering wattage max capacity?

  • @dougreitmeyer-h9i
    @dougreitmeyer-h9i 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Nate. When comparing other panels using the method shared, is the panel voltage based on the open circuit voltage (VOC), and the short circuit current for Amps? Thanks!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      mp (max power) for both in terms of figuring out output.

    • @dougreitmeyer-h9i
      @dougreitmeyer-h9i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EXPLORISTlife Nate, Thanks for returning my question.

    • @dougreitmeyer-h9i
      @dougreitmeyer-h9i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Nate.
      I've been reading through your tutorials and have taken the test to understand how to optimize panel configurations with varying watts/volts/amps.
      Could you please help clarify some questions about my panel arrangement and how to optimize my Bluetti AC200Max?
      -The AC200max has a 900W capacity, with an Open Circuit Voltage range 10V-145V, and a max input current of solar charging: 15.2A ± 0.3A,
      -currently own a 200W solar suitcase with a 20.5V Vmp, 9.7A Imp,
      -looking to purchase 2 & 250W Renogy Topcon Bifacial Panels with 19.52V Vmp, 12.81A Imp,
      1. Would you recommend setting up the three panels in Series, but run the risk of losing charge optimization @83%
      2. Run two Renogy panels in series, @ 100%, and only use the suitcase when the roof array is in the shade?
      3. Do I look for panels matching the suitcase panel VMP/IMP specs?
      I appreciate your help!
      D-

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think this may take a more in depth look at what you've got going on. I'd love to help you at shop.explorist.life/support, but it looks like you aren't using anything we sell in our store; so if you're struggling to come to a conclusion from our videos, maybe reach out to renogy or bluetti for personalized technical support?

    • @dougreitmeyer-h9i
      @dougreitmeyer-h9i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EXPLORISTlife Will do. Thanks for the quick response. Happy holidays!

  • @djj6452
    @djj6452 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant ... first clip i begin to understand.
    I have just bought a solar system for my camper van.
    1x 20amp MPPT solar charge controller
    1x 150v VOC 22.5v , VPM 18v, ISC 9.00A , Imp 8.33A
    1X100v VOC 21.30v, VPM 17.8, ISC 6.07A, Imp 5.62A
    2x 110ah V12 Batteries
    SO i am wondering because the solar are different voltages etc what is the best configuration ???
    Many thanks and great work on your channel . DJ

  • @dwuchterl
    @dwuchterl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!! on the specs of the panels do we use the "Rated DC Voltage" or "Open Circus Voltage" foe the Formula Voltage? Thx

  • @RD-qn4gt
    @RD-qn4gt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best explanation by far. Thanks!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

  • @minutemark
    @minutemark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Point of contention: you said, "lowest common denominator," but that cannot be what you meant based on your math. I believe that you meant 'lowest volts (or amp) rating," because the lowest common denominator between 25 and 20 is 5 for the volts [wired in parallel] (and between 8 and 5 is 1 for the amps [wired in series]). Barring that, I am learning a lot through this video. Thanks!

  • @sjude68
    @sjude68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using 3 solar panels in parallel to charge a 12v car battery. This is used to power up 3-4 leds street lights on the wall. The lights used to stay on till about 4am. The solar panels are not of same size so I think the wire is not right to get the battery charged full. This video helped me to understand the wiring. I will try to correct it.

  • @only1jonnyg
    @only1jonnyg ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos, direct a quick to the point , and extremely informative, thumbs up every time!!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey only1jonnyg, Thanks so much! Cheers!

  • @kyleo1236
    @kyleo1236 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would the work around be to add a charge controller in parallel to the original charge controller for any panels that would be detrimental to the original array?

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would be the most proper way to handle that, yes.

  • @EXPLORISTlife
    @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

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  • @jerryedward9589
    @jerryedward9589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, what happens if you can attach 2 strings to your inverter as it has 2 positive and 2 negative connections, do both strings need to be the same, or can 1 string have different panels to the other and get the full watts from both strings?

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video addresses that specifically: th-cam.com/video/N0UB7LZVduk/w-d-xo.html

  • @nullhill6486
    @nullhill6486 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude, you're a genius. Thank you

  • @yakojumps
    @yakojumps 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow that was the best video ever on this. I actually really understand now

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awesome! Thanks for watching!

  • @arecibo1974
    @arecibo1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:19 so if you add that extra panel with its own charge controller it will be fine, efficiently ?

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Splitting the array into two arrays (or three or four or five... depending on how big the array is) is indeed an option.

  • @TrekkerPlanet
    @TrekkerPlanet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am learning so much from this channel, although there are some things that are still a bit fuzzy in my head. QQ.
    I own 3-160w EC panels (18.2v*8.8a) and 2-100w panels (17.1v*5.9a) I was looking for a way to combine them with minimal loss.
    I think the best possible way under this scenario would be to put them all in a parallel configuration.
    Combined AMPs 38.2 * Lowest Volt 17.1 = 653.22 out a 680w. Is that math correct?

  • @talakitok1110
    @talakitok1110 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What voltage was used in the calculations, Voc or Vmp? What current value was used? Isc or Imp? Thanks. I enjoyed the videos!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Voc for charge controller sizing and Vmp/Imp for actual power production. Isc is really only for fuse sizing.

  • @JeffinTD
    @JeffinTD หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are truly excellent.

  • @tyersontheroad2607
    @tyersontheroad2607 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, really great info, love the way you break it down for us!

  • @BudBetz
    @BudBetz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Nate. Basic electricity at its finest!

  • @caseyl3631
    @caseyl3631 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you use the short circuit amperage or optimum amperage

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imp for actual performance, but realistically; the most efficient way to wire mismatched solar panels is to wire like panels all to their own charge controller and scrap the mismatched solar panel array option altogether. If you want help going this route and if you have purchased/are purchasing from our store (shop.explorist.life) reach out for some more personalized help: shop.explorist.life/support
      If you've purchased/are purchasing elsewhere, reach out to your dealer for support. We'd love to have you as a shop.explorist.life customer so we can provide a bit more help in the future. 🙂

  • @micktaylor7937
    @micktaylor7937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Bud, I now know why my 160 watt and 100 watt roof panels only produce 11 amps. When plugged in separately I can see 14 amps in ideal conditions. I have a Timber Ridge 24 RKS with the factory solar kit and the portable solar panel plug on the side. When I plug my Go Power 120 watt portable into the side port the two controllers fight and take turns shutting down. I finally bypassed the portable panel controller and plugged it into the third plug on the roof using only one controller and now I can see 15 amps from the 3 panels instead of the 20 amps I can get when totalling individually. I guess I will replace the 100 watt panel with a matching 160 watt panel on the roof and hope my 120 portable has the same voltage. I was wrong to assume the dealer knew what they were doing, lesson learned.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darn! Well... I'm glad this helped out.

  • @barrymassie5725
    @barrymassie5725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great info.i heard that battleborn has their own solar panels.have you received any information on them.

  • @WoodlandCompanies
    @WoodlandCompanies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial, you are a good teacher!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, The Woodland Companies! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching! 🙂😀

  • @threedogsandacamper503
    @threedogsandacamper503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great and expertly explained information! I wish I’d seen this sooner, but glad I didn’t see it any later

  • @georgeidiculla6529
    @georgeidiculla6529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful teaching! Very helpful. This is what I was looking for!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful. Cheers!

  • @somathilakesuraweera1673
    @somathilakesuraweera1673 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you employ suitable diode to connect the panels?

  • @firpofutbol
    @firpofutbol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video Nate. Have you considered a video on how to wire the leisure battery to jump the van battery in the event that you drain it, such as when leaving the lights on? This is a topic I cannot find info on but I'm sure many would like to know.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great idea! I don't have a video for that out, but will be incorporating that into my next van build so will be sure to talk about it.

    • @crpth1
      @crpth1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look for ANY video about how to jump a car battery! And I really mean any...
      Positive (Red) first to be connected. Followed by the negative (Black). Make sure to produce a good contact, with CLEAN poles and clamps!
      Start the vehicle. I always let it run for a short while...
      Disconnect the negative (black), and finally the positive (red). Be aware of the sequence! A detail many tend to forget!
      Easy way to keep it in mind! Red (positive) first and last. The rest in between.
      ALWAYS manipulate ONE cable at a time. AND do not hold them together (clamps) under your arm pit while connecting/disconnecting. A colleague literally lost is shirt and had some of his arm pit "fur" burned because of such small detail! LOL 😂
      Cheers

  • @andersandersson9442
    @andersandersson9442 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I new this but still I wired them wrong. Thanks to your great video I now get more watts out of the same panels. Brains need to be refreshed now and then.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Anders Andersson, Thanks so much! Cheers!

  • @jonerasmus9399
    @jonerasmus9399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video as usual. Could you maybe consider making videos on how to use software tools to add batteries and assign inverters as master inverter etc .

  • @robertfortier9394
    @robertfortier9394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In your last example whereby adding an additional solar panel the array output was cut in half. (asking a question) when adding the additional solar panel, it was incorporated into one of the series of three panels so there was three panels and four panels in series/parallel , would that be a way to incorporate the additional panel without losing generating power? if not; do you have a video outlying the correct approach mixing the same size (amps/volts) panels but series (2-6 and 2/7 panels) have different number of panels. Thanks, learning a lot from your videos.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The other option is to split them up into multiple arrays: th-cam.com/video/N0UB7LZVduk/w-d-xo.html

  • @LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully
    @LadyGreyAgeingDisGracefully 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the easy to follow explanations. I am learning so much.

  • @MaritimeUnprepared
    @MaritimeUnprepared 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would using multiple charge controllers mitigate the the losses from different panels?

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Usually, yes. The math would remain the same for each smaller array

    • @MaritimeUnprepared
      @MaritimeUnprepared 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EXPLORISTlife thank you for the response. I'm living in the forest currently and I have a 40w and a 150w panel and a couple cheap controllers, but I wasn't 100% sure how to connect them to one deep cycle battery. Thanks for the great videos, they're awesome and they've been helping me out 👊

  • @Yiokalai
    @Yiokalai ปีที่แล้ว

    Vary helpfully videos.I m wandering can you use two separate charger controller?one for the right panel couple and an other one for the left three panels.Both controller outputs in parallel to the battery.Many hallo from Greece.

  • @markelkins8432
    @markelkins8432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Series has been great! Think I've watched everything! Certainly picked up a lot of clue, from tools, to when to fuse on the roof.
    What about discussing East / West panels? (when one has no suitable house roof pointing to the equator). I understand that this could be more desirable as one can catch both the early and late sun rays.
    One thing you don't seem to have mentioned is that if there is shade on a string - it affects the whole strings production of power - so having a well chosen placement of a mix of Series and Parallel panels can be the wisest configuration.
    Lastly (back to East/West configs), if there is less sun on an area - does this affect the voltage or the amperage of the string?
    Oh - the hour long video with your friends RV - four panels down each side in series, why that format? I think I'd put the four at the front in series and the four at the back in series - so parking with one end in shade gives at least one good string. The Left & Right strings is primarily beneficial if in the complete open with the RV parked North/South. Perhaps have a method of switching between the two layouts?

  • @LetsJustGoTravel
    @LetsJustGoTravel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there. Thank you for this video! It was really helpful with deciding how to set up my solar on my RV. I had a question maybe you can answer... I currently have 2 x 100w panels and 2 x 175w panels on the roof of my trailer. I've wired them in series-parallel as you demonstrated in 7:10. However, I didn't account for the fact that because my panels are near my roof AC, there is usually a high chance of shade on at least one of the panels at any given time unless the sun is straight above. In my scenario would it have been better to just get 4 x 100w panels (4 x 175w won't fit) and wired them all in parallel? These are all going to a single MPPT charge controller.

  • @shaft3500
    @shaft3500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this Video! When making these calculations and for adding additional panel to the array, is it best to use Voc or Vmp? I have plenty of mppt capacity, especially on the voltage front with a 100V/30A victron mppt with a 24v LiFePo4 battery...

  • @stavroschrysidis1992
    @stavroschrysidis1992 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about placing the different panels in different directions ? I mean a serie of panels with 505w effect east direction and a serie of panels of 390w south direction. while they don't get maximum effect at the same time,the total effect is not decreased. is it right? great videos....I really enjoy your work.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It'll be a similar-ish concept but to a lesser degree as taught in this video. There may be decreased output, but it's hard to calculate since the voltage/amperage may not be consistent (and would change as the sun moves across the sky).

  • @yaothee9756
    @yaothee9756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent work, very comprehensive and to the point.

  • @jimk5145
    @jimk5145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish you would cover the impact of partial shade on an array! If one panel of an array is shaded a bypass diode would allow current of a series array to be impacted but would reduce the voltage. Reducing the voltage impacts the performance of panels in parallel to the shaded panel, no?

  • @goncalovalle
    @goncalovalle ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video! Thank you for giving such a clear and in depth explanation!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Goncalo Valle, Thanks so much! Cheers!

  • @stanvangilder9006
    @stanvangilder9006 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this! Saved my bacon again today. Please keep 'em coming.

  • @jackiemckenzie5274
    @jackiemckenzie5274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting on the future video about when in line fuses are needed. Thanks for good info.

  • @seraphin8999
    @seraphin8999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly what i searched! You are my man!!!

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful. Cheers!

  • @caesarmayen7365
    @caesarmayen7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I haven't purchased any equipment yet and I am new to solar kits but, I would like to know right off the bat what size solar panel, control charger, inverter and lithium battery to run a 640 watt led grow light for 10 hours a day? Your expertise will be much appreciated! Thumbs up to your videos, some of the best I have encountered.

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This video will teach you how to figure out all of that: th-cam.com/video/a406IxiU-Xg/w-d-xo.html

  • @donalddsouza7342
    @donalddsouza7342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, with your help I able to solve my problems

  • @jonross667
    @jonross667 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you need to charge the batteries independently before you hook up everything? I heard that if one battery isn’t charged the same amount as another one, it could mess up future charging?

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This may take a more in-depth look at your personal setup. If you have purchased/are purchasing from our store (shop.explorist.life) reach out for some more personalized help: shop.explorist.life/support
      If you've purchased/are purchasing elsewhere, reach out to your dealer for support. We'd love to have you as a shop.explorist.life customer so we can provide a bit more help in the future. 🙂

  • @chrishynes1503
    @chrishynes1503 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does higher volts or higher amps charge the batteries faster?

  • @amsoiltek
    @amsoiltek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid, do you know of an online or spreadsheet tool that you can quickly plug in your existing array and then play with what-if scenarios? Reason I ask I see some vendors with B grade panels for sale and I'd like to add to my SunPower system. Thanks

  • @ProjectsinParadise808
    @ProjectsinParadise808 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best explanation on this topic I have run across, and exactly the information I needed to help me configure my ever growing solar system...thank you....aloha

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!

  • @davidgentile4576
    @davidgentile4576 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what's better going into the charge controller more volts or more watts? To charge your batteries

    • @EXPLORISTlife
      @EXPLORISTlife  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watts

    • @IanSR1970
      @IanSR1970 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@EXPLORISTlife I could be wrong, but I think @davidgentile4576 might’ve meant more volts or more amps 🤔

  • @newbie101
    @newbie101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Newbie here, may I know when you are referring to volts and amps, is it the voc and isc? Thanks.

  • @OverlandTravelAdventures
    @OverlandTravelAdventures 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh, I just made this mistake and added a 100w to a 200w 4x array and knock it down to almost no watts! Thanks Nate!

  • @PKSDev
    @PKSDev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kind attention 6:20-6:30
    In this case, you used different amperage 8A & 5A in series! And you took the lower Amperage as net current!
    My doubt is -
    When in series, won't the sunlight falling on 8A array flow through the 5A array and heat up the 5A array, when the connected load is capable of demanding 8A??🤔
    Please clarify 🙏

  • @AlabamaConstitutionalCrusader
    @AlabamaConstitutionalCrusader 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So on the last example if they had added that panel in one of the series instead of paralleling it in would it had made a difference ?

    • @jasonbrown467
      @jasonbrown467 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes it would drop the voltage in the other strings

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what questions do you ask to help decide this question? "Wire in parallel or serial?" Only after I answer that question can I start planning. Good vid.

  • @techpuppy7818
    @techpuppy7818 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this video
    This one give me good knowledge

  • @twisted709
    @twisted709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you reconfigure the example at 8:13 by putting them all into a series string, since they are all 20v, wouldnt that mean that youd be able to get 100% efficiency? total 100v, 40 amps and 800 watts?

    • @twisted709
      @twisted709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@test-193 So if the 100w panels are connected parallel, they would be 20v 10A, then if we connect them with the rest in series, you will get full efficiency?

    • @twisted709
      @twisted709 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it checks out unless theres something im missing, I was wrong in my first comment but I think they can be re-arranged to achieve full efficiency. The 2x 100w panels in parallel would basically be one of the other panels, 200w 10a 20v. So the system would then total 800w 10a 80v connected in series.

  • @stumblestorms7881
    @stumblestorms7881 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for making this make sense.