The Killing of Randy Webster with Jennifer Jason Leigh & Hal Holbrook
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- Emmy-nominated 1981 TV movie, partially based on the true story of a teenage boy who was shot by police in Texas. Jennifer Jason Leigh has some nice scenes - check out the one at 1:18:30 where she does some heavy emoting, aided by the wind blowing her hair all over her face.
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Even after watching 'Designing women' i didn't realise what a fine actress Dixie Carter is. She is also extremely beautiful in an understated way; Good movie. Thank you for the upload.
yes, Designing Women started about 8 years after this movie
Dixie Carter and Hal Holbrook were special talents.
I got to see Holbrook on stage as Mark Twain in Boston during this same time period. He was great.
Thank you very very much for the rare movies.
How terribly sad what happened to Randy was... Thanks for posting. Hal Holbrook is one of my absolute favorite actors. I'm sure that he and his wife Dixie (as the wife) must have enjoyed working with each other.
i had forgotten dixie was married to him. thanks
This was before they married. In fact, they fell in love on the set, by their own admission.
I remember watching this when it originally aired. This poor family got screwed from every direction. But, Dixie Carter is flawless & beautiful.
She was healthy and beautiful.
Jennifer Jason Leigh is also one of my favourite actors. Living in London I was not able to see her early television work like films such as this. I only came across this site yesterday or the first time and am looking forward to more suggestions as I have subscribed. Thanks for posting!!!
Wow, Sean Penn is in this too. Thanks for posting.
Yup. Sean Penn before he turned ugly, he used to be a real hottie. And that was Anthony Edwards (Dr. Green from ER) in the car with Randy when he stole the van.
After few years after this film they would be stoner buddies in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. (:
I thought that was Sean penn I’m only 7:52 into this movie and I definitely spotted him right away lol
I haven't seen this movie in almost 30 years. I remember HBO used to air this movie regularly back in the day and it became one of my favorite movies. This might be the first crime movie I ever saw. It was also around the time that I first saw this movie that I became a fan of Jennifer Jason Leigh. I really enjoyed some of her movies from the 80's and I thought she was one of the prettiest actresses of the 80's.
I remember this because my parents were divorcing and I was having to go from Houston to my home town due to parental rights back then. Randy was a year older than me. We later find out there were many bad cops on Houston's force back then. There were also, many bad judges protecting these cops.
Randy Webster, for whatever reason, did steal the van, joy riding in Houston. Cops spotted the stolen van and pursued it. Randy stopped the van and held his hands over his head. Cop came to driver's side, yanked Randy out of van and threw him onto the pavement, then shot him in the head at close range.
The other cop, being so loyal, laid down a "throw down" 22 pistol that came from Houston's Police Departments Property Room. Serial numbers trace it there, so the cover up began to unravel. Still, those bastards got an acquittal. It was later discovered that another "throw down" gun was used on a Louisiana boy's death.
Semper Fi
Thanks for the background on this movie. I didn't know about it...What year was this?
@@alicehoward7325 Randy's killing took place in early 1977. In the course of the same year, 1978 and 1979, his father went to investigate the police coverup. Eventually, there was a trial, but no convictions. This movie (which was based on that case) first premiered in 1981.
Son of a bitch
Read about Walter Scott. His shooting video is available and the cop threw down a taser. South Carolina. 8 shots, 5 landed in the back instantly dead. Cop received 20 years.
I believe all police forces are dirty, power corrupts, absolutely. Plus, add in a crooked greedy court, and the push for cops to be Revenue collectors instead of public Servants, what other way could it be.
I do understand cops watching each other's backs. They have too. Their lives depend on it. And it comes down to the good guys vs the bad guys, and I'm not saying which is which.
Wow! I was just a kid and remember watching this movie 32 years ago! I will pass it on to my son. Lessons learned: Don't be a criminal on either side of the law. Randy shouldn't of been a burglar and car thief and the police shouldn't have lied about their screw up!
Yeah, he was a real screw ball!!!!
I can't see him naming it 1 month in the military back then. Today probably, but it was a man's military then. Something he was a long way from. He acts like he's 13 and hasn't erected yet.
I'm gonna see this because of the great actor Hal Holbrook.
@Lizzie Allen That was Donald Sutherland.
@Lizzie Allen If it was Outbreak, from 1995, it was him. Dustin Hoffman played the hero, and Donald Sutherland's character was all about bombing that town. I'm certain it was Donald, as he let me a great impression of a villain.
Lizzie Allen Hal Holbrook was the bent cop in Magnum Force (a Dirty Harry film) and also in Creepshow staring along side Adrienne Barbeau (The Crate)
Good grief.Sean Penn looks like he's about nine! Dang I'm old and Penn's older than I am. Enjoyable movie. Thank you.
Lolol
He looks nerdy in this role. A total 180 from Jeff Spicoli!😎
Sean Penn? I thought that was the guy who played Freddy Krueger 😂😂😂
Years later, Hal Holbrook and Sean Penn worked together on a movie that Penn directed. It is called "Into the Wild", a true story based on the journey taken by Christopher McCandliss into the Alaskan wilderness.
One year later two from this movie would star in the greatest high school flick ever!
Greatest high school flick ever is "Stand and Deliver" (1988)
If I had a math teacher like the late Jaime Escalante I wouldn't have had to rely on a calculator for the last 40 years.
(Rest In Peace Vanessa Marquez)
Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Anthony Edwards.
Actually, it's three people from this film went on to "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"; Sean Penn, Jennifer Jason Leigh, and Anthony Edwards. Edwards was Jeff Spicoli's friend who was with Jeff when they said "No shirt, no shoes, no dice".
Halbrook has a voice that sticks - I love to hear ads, newspaper headlines and songs with his voice 😂
hello great movie another classic.cheers
What a crime against humanity! No doubts those involved did not lead model lives afterward.
Thank you for downloading this movie...
I will never forget when my sister told me that Randy had been killed by the Houston police department early this morning. I believe the reason Randy stole the van was because his older brother was a car thief and I guess Randy thought he could also steal a vehicle. After hitting Randy with the May's fire arm, Randy fell to the ground and then Mays shot through his hand and into his head. Randy was executed. It was a horrible coverup.
Greatest sound track for a movie, April wine, nature of the beast album
Classic Album,thier best work.That made the movie stick out for me.
I first became a fan of Jennifer Jason Leigh in the 80s where she gave outstanding performances in films that were often not that great themselves. Her films improved in the 90s but I am nostalgic for the offbeat sleepers she did in the 80s. So good to see her coming back into the limelight with 6 new films this year.
It runs in the family. Her mother was a screenwriter and her dad was actor Vic Morrow.😎
this is American injustice...terrific movie...
Thanks
I'm not a big movie cryer.. and I had forgotten bawling in a puddle at Leigh's performance (the tree scene) during the first time I saw this film (30+ years ago). I just watched it again here.. and guess what? It got me again! Another puddle. And while that was happening I remembered the first time. It's funny how after so many awesome performances we see actors cover in their career, it is sometimes isolated instances of their earliest work that retain the most impact. That is clearly the case for me here with Jenifer Jason Leigh. Oh, and I just today researched her and learned that she is the daughter of late actor Vic Morrow. Another thing I noticed on her Wiki page is the absence of this film in her filmography list.
I too researched all of Jennifer Jason Leigh's films and did not find this. I was very suprised to see an extremely young sean penn among other stars. It was awesome. I miss the seventies.
I peed
Wish the sound were louder. Today, So many killings of citizens, even the elderly, one in a nursing home, one that reached for his cane to steady himself, officers walk. I believe any officer that sees any wrong doing is as guilt as the one doing the killing, if they do not report wrong doing
SJR : your right 👍👍👍
@C. L. ...Is this not about an actual event? If so, then it is not just a movie! It is real life if, it happened.
Agree with you..the sound needs to be louder.
Well, Randy was white, so it doesn't matter. But..........
I'm not a Defund the Police person, that's about as stupid as I've ever heard. Can you imagine what it would be like without Police today? We need prosecution for crimes, not probation, fir repeat offenders. And, we need honest Prosecution of police when they intentionally kill or harm citizens, not fit doing their job, or for a mistake made in . 036 seconds, that is understandable. Not based on skin, but on facts, truth, for All skin. Today, criminals with long records, in the commission of a crime, and resisting, is not a victim, or a dang hero! If they hadn't been doing what they were doing, it wouldn't have happened. Just like the famous BS we've seen in past years. Even this case. If Randy had not stole that van, this tragedy would not of happened. No, Randy did not deserve to be killed, and those cops deserved prison, but it all happened because Randy made a very bad decision.
You have the Single White Female, Goose and Jeff Spicoli in the same movie!
They were also all in Fast Times At Ridgemont High together.
Wonder if there are any real pictures of Randy Webster and the cops involved. I also believe since police work is a special kind of work to be involved in, anyone who deliberately desecrates the uniform deserves national disgrace.
+ron bowling jr Look up Texas Monthly The Throw down . There are pictures of the 3 officers how they looked at the time this event occurred , They are Danny Mays , Wayne Holloway , Thomas Olin & a pics of the websters including 1 of randy. It also describes another controversial police that happen 3 months after this event.
hattrick6701 if you look closely again at Texas monthly there is also a picture of Randy as well.
+hattrick6701 Very kind of you to direct any one to the article in depth! Thanks so much.
Does anyone know the exact location of Randy's death?
@@ronbowlingjr6122
Near the intersection of Telephone Rd and Hall Rd in SE Houston, TX
www.google.com/maps/@29.603126,-95.2862674,3a,75y,144.38h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1siTj6Y7XBrqt45Ce8612hrw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
23:04 and 01:04:55 *Anthony Edwards* from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Revenge of the Nerds, Gotcha, and ER fame. So there's 3 people who starred in. "Fast Times" in this film.
Anthony Edwards was also in Top Gun and Heart Like A Wheel
@@roxannemoser I remember him from Top Gun but I don't think I've seen "Heart like a wheel".
This kid is totally out of control. Dad a little hard, and mother is to the extreme on spoiling him.
I LOVED the comment early on in film about raising of children, then police have to deal with scum. I believe had he GONE in military, things would have changed for him. I met many a great military person while active and as a civilian who shared that they would have gone to prison, the life they were leading, were it not for military. Not me, I went in pretty good. But.. alot, the military grows them up!
But that's not the point, is it.
Gary McCleery was ONE HELL OF AN ACTOR. Too bad he didn't stay in the bussiness longer and do more Movies .I think he would have become really really big. Would have liked to see him have MORE of a career. But he is awesome to watch no matter what he was in.
Who would have thought when this movie was made 40 years ago, police killings would be more out of control today than ever before. Prosecutions zip. And if this were today, the taxi driver not be told to leave the scene -- he would be found suicided.
orginally aired as a tv movie for CBS tv too!
There’s no justice, just “us”
I wonder if there was any question of the movie being titled _"The Murder of Randy Webster"..._
man i cant find that on dvd clubs even on download...i have the 1st 20min taped on vhs 15 years ago when my dad recorded it..!
I remember this movie at 8 years old randy should had a opportunity to live life
For some reason I remember this when I was a kid
So.... the Song is called - Crash And Burn - by - April Wine
Love the April Wine soundtrack!
Brilliant film
3 cast members of 'Fast Times @Ridgemont High' in this movie.
April Wine at the top! "All Over Town".
Wow! I hadnt saw this movie since the 70's i think. Id been searching for it but just couldnt remember the title. Id put in Randy webster instead! Now hopefully i can find Bad Boys with Sean Penn
I love this movie. Hal Holbrook does a great job. This movie didn't get the attention it should have back in the 80s. This kind of stuff that the Houston police did still goes on today. I would like to see the full movie Body Heat with William Hurt & Kathleen Turner if anyone has it.
Hal Holbrook is a legend!😎
Woah. Young Anthony Edwards...
"not computerized". So much better.
This is when Dixie Carter and Hal Holbrooke met. ❤
@Song4Mozart ...
... and they were married about 3 years after ...
wow
Sean Penn in an earlier role
I thought that was him..
Most people won't realize
Sean Penn great great actor ,,,,,,he got popular after Taps,,
@@sonnybowen6739 great man too
Very sad what those cop's did ppl forget about judgement day..I see why ppl don't trust them..
Fact!
morgan YORK cops are earning the hate more and more every day
Not all cops are bad
Happens to black men to date..
@@Wareaglegirl9960 😂😂😂😂😂yeah about a very small percentage are good
Needs a release
Feeling sad for Randy.
Tragic
I saw it and if you look carefully there is also a picture of Randy at 15.
@@tombraider1335 Duh! The main character! Who the movie is about!
Where? The movie is an hour and a half long!
I saw this on TV in 81 I believe
Slow for me to keep up with because the sound was so low.
It was a real struggle to watch and try to listen.
sad day when cops cant tell thruth about what really happened. would of been easy for family to find the thruth so they could start healing
No manslaughter conviction? That's the least they should have gotten. My brother was shot and killed by the police in Miami, Florida in 1974. I was only 14 at the time and he was a really bad person (my brother). However, I often wonder if it was justified? My parents did not have the resources available to actually question what happened (we lived in the state of Mississippi), they just accepted that the police department was sincere in what they told them. I think there are many Randy's that lost their lives to corruption!
Police unions are all corrupt.
what a painful situation for the parents.
in England police don't carry guns - - a whole different law enforcement culture, I suppose...
If we didn't allow free rein to kill people, and if we did not issue weapons, we would get different type of person applying for those jobs.
"LIGHT" trigger pull??? 6 to 8 "POUNDS" !!!!!!
remember when this happened
59:08
that bottle of white out... used to be in every office...
I am sorry for what happened, but you just can't help some kids, not with love, discipline advice, nothing works. Sorry, but that's reality
sean penn looks about 17 almost didnt recognize him. not sure who the other young man is. Hal holbrook was a great actor. good music from april wine
This was BEFORE “Fast times at ridgemont high” AND “bad boys!!!” Sean penn is a great actor!!!
I see things will never change when it comes to a jury finding cops guilty smh
Depends on who the criminal is.
I'm not sure what happened in Houston, but I do know how Webster lived his life in Shreveport. The movie portrayed him as a good-at-heart, troubled kid. There are troubled kids and then there was Webster. If you live his type of life, you're far more likely to run across someone who will take it.
so are you saying he deserved it .
Terry Murphy I really don't know, I just don't know what happened in Houston that night. I do know however that when word hit home that Webster had been killed by HPD people were not very surprised. And then when the movie came out painting Webster simply as a trouble kid most folks thought, Wow, this is not an accurate depiction. If you look for trouble, more often than not, you find it.
Shonte, You're reading bias into my post. I'll restate, I don't know what happened, I don't know whether or not he deserved to die. The movie portrayed him as a troubled kid. He was far more than this. Occasionally the cops are justified in killing someone....again, I don't know whether or not this was the case in this situation. Knowing Randy's background i'll give the benefit of doubt to the cops. I didn't state or even implied that cops are innocent and mean no harm.
010..I think the majority of folks would disagree with your thoughts on how Randy was portrayed in the film. “Good at heart’ may be a little soft but I still firmly believe/know his portrayal was softer than real life.
regarding your quote...was this from the movie or an actual quote from SPD?
Mays hit Randy in the back of the head with his service pistol, then fired one shot through his hand into his head, thus executing Randy. I believe Randy got the idea as a result of his older brother being a car thief. It is a horrible true story of a cover up using a throw down gun. Justice that day was unavailable for Randy. Randy would never have a chance to go to court. After being set up by police, this happened and it was a real wake up call with regards to the legal system in the US.
@@tombraider1335 Shut up fool!
so much for "JUSTICE"!!!!
The ending is appalling!!!
Who is Randy Webster. The man who been dead over in Eye Killed that poor big guy was got no reasons.
bunch of the same actors from fast times at ridgemont high
+peteyguitarguy "bunch" sounds a bit snob-ish to describe some fine actors in the genre.
Yes, three of them.
Anthony Edwards was cute ,until he grew out of his hair .😀
I believe it's called...lost his hair. No one grows out of their hair!
@@MrLyndarenaud 😂
Or lost it.😎
Randy needed alternative schooling not sure they had them where he was at or at that time.
The "766" program was alterative schooling that sought to mainstream kids with emotional and learning deficits.
Alternative schooling in my area taught kids to be criminals
well that's scary.
how did this happen?
what went wrong with the program?
Like movie
Now in day's it's the other way around
RIP
You just can't win against the system.
GEE RAM thank goodness more people are fighting back and filing civil suits against these corrupt cops
we need to vote in people who are not corrupt, who will clean up the system
The only movie I remember her in was Single white female with Briidget Fonda
Why are so many of these movies of such poor quality?
Really good movie. But the truth came out. Love to parents of randy.
Sean Penn is in this film.
In the first 36:01 minutes of this movie, I know that I do not know all of the details yet, but that Randy was acting WAY too wild and he needed a father like Hal Holbrook's character. I think that the mother was very soft on Randy and that boy was acting like he was on something. I mean, how would he had made it in the Navy if he couldn't make it at school? Even his friends appeared as though he was out of his head. He was acting like a lunatic and phony with his father and didn't seem that he was together. I don't know what I am going to find out here, but if the real Randy Webster did indeed act this was, he wasn't a "good" kid and he was bound to die soon at the rate he was going.
Part 2 of my statement. It is unfortunate for the parents to have to go through this , but that Randy placed himself into this mess in the first place stealing the van and riding like a maniac through the streets like this. You can't win with the cops, they stick together and the forces that rule them stick by them. You can't mess with the police no matter how wrong they are. Sure, it is right to fight for your rights and we should, but we should just, as much as it is possible with us to stay out of anything involving the police. Yes, there are situations where we are completely innocent and the police come into our lives and get away with the wrong that they do, but for the most part, stay away from the police, except, to call them for your need of help. Follow the laws as prescribed as much as at all possible. This situation was a mess for himself and the family and the South is just a no good place to get into trouble. They always have been.
Listening to that mixed up rant when he was applying, made me wonder why they would accept such a messed up kid, in the first place.
Sean Penn was sure young there. I think the Police on the whole are good. But you do have bad apples in some of them and these type of things happen. I remember the cop shooting that black man in the back 6 times as he was told to run. Someone filmed it. How awful. THIS CASE in the Movie.. that really is bad.. probation?? after they killed someone and try to cover it up. terrible.
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Randy dad might have been too strict sure didn show any physical abuse ,but the mother sure didn't help by not teaching to listen
*thank ewe for uploading the film* ...more info here about the actual case: openjurist.org/689/f2d/1220/webster-v-city-of-houston
Look at Sean Penn. He looks 15
I remember this movie i was 7,8, or 9 the cops shouldn't killed randy Webster randy had goals and dreams didn't get a chance to live his adult years that fuckin mess up.
Randy wasn't going to make it in the Navy any way. Look at how he already was. He didn't care about anyone's authority. Yes, it was wrong what the police did, but this Randy placed himself in a situation where this didn't have to happen at all. Never mess with the police if you don't have to.
M Perry usually Marines like wild cards. but I agree the Navy is different...
Stacy and Spicoli.
This is the problem with today’s world. Let your kid run wild, commit crimes, put other people’s lives in danger and then you care😰
People on here act like Randy was this model kid, he was a troubled kid who was out of control. His own family couldn't control him. The cops were wrong for what they did also. A kid staying away from home for two days and stealing cars is asking for trouble. He not only stole the van he completely destroyed the owners window by driving the car through it. It was either drugs or just craziness on his part, but instead of them arresting him, they killed him. We don't know what really happened because none of us were there at that time. Maybe the police thought he had a gun or maybe they didn't. But i say, with Randy's reckless behavior, he was going to see a tragic end one way or another.. Maybe the police planted a gun to save themselves after a wronged shooting or not. He was headed in the wrong direction, his own father saw it coming himself.
25:40 Right Headlight busted
25:43 Not busted. Lol.
42:22 Left Headlight busted
128:59 Left Headlight on
What? Not guilty? What in the world.
Don't.
Here's a news report that goes into the true story and mentions the film as well. th-cam.com/video/03KaZiFFSk8/w-d-xo.html
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Why would we go to Twitter to watch the same movie that we can watch here? Does that make sense?
Good contribution to the discussion. Thank you!
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SCHOOL ?????? 😇 ZOMBIES
Three main things sum up this kind of situations that are still occuring, and not only with Afro Americans as victims
1) "3 on 3000"...
2) For every non armed civilian arrested, how many ARE, in guncrazy America, resulting in cops with dead colleagues and hence nerves on the edge ?
3) Rotten apples have to go, and preferably not the soft way. No room for displaced "loyalty" towards violent or sadistic colleagues, who are no mythical figures, but real life characters.They are a disgrace for the badge they wear.
Always nice to see Hal Holbrook, fine job too from Randy's girlfriend, she captured that teenager's temper and moods very well.
John Webster was a better detective.
Randy Webster killed here in 1977.
Four years later a woman named
Joan Webster was murdered in Boston.
There were dirty deeds in both cases.
Gareth Penn involved in the Joan investigation.
Sean Penn in the Movie about Randy.
There is a CIA connection in Joan's case.
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I believe that it is very possible for the first shot to have been an accident. Yet, accident is a word that´s not acceptable for many in authority. That the city was found liable makes much more sense, than accusing officers that even know a term for a cover-up. And they payed for it. Very often it´s the system that needs a change and not single persons that need to be punished.
You don’t want the corrupt cops thrown in jail committing murder on the job
@23:49 Anthony Edwards
these cops are all the same every where ,on ego trips thinking their hot shots in their unform and gun and its crap that they walked when they should of been charged with murder