Replacing bucket wear edge and welding up cracks.
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In this video I cut off and replace a bucket wear edge and also weld up and patch the cracks.
So the first job is to turn the bucket upside down and slice down the back of the old edge with the grinder. I also chop 40mm off of the straps to make room for the new edge.
I air arc gouge out the cracks and remove the previous repair patches on the sides. Grind down smooth and then weld up. I cut out some new side plates from 6mm plate to be welded back on in place covering the repaired area.
After welding the side plates on, I cut out some plates to reinforce around the wear pads underneath, these need to be pressed slightly to fit the shape of the roll of the bucket. They are then tack welded on and the pry bar is used to get them to fit tight.
Next job is to turn the bucket back the right way up and then bring the new wear edge in and cut to length, this is a 200x25mm HB500 wear edge.
The bucket is sat onto the workbench and the edge is slid into place. The middle of the bucket has to be winched back straight to line up properly with the new edge. Once checked to make sure its straight and even the edge is tacked into place, I give the edge a little preheat before welding. It’s then fully welded across the front in 11” intervals.
Once cooled down, the bucket is removed from the bench, the remainder of the side plates are welded up then the bucket is turned back upside down to weld up the back side of the edge, this is just stitch welded.
Thanks for watching!
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That was a clever trick twisting the strap so it would turn the bucket when you lifted it
The problem is with buckets like those, people using them for all jobs. They are grain buckets! Built lightweight.
Not built for loading soil, rubble, ect, and looking at the bottom of that one maybe pushing fence post in.
I know this because in my time I’ve used them for those jobs and suffered the consequences.
Brilliant repair Olive. I enjoy your videos
Great how you use a crowbar/ wrecking bar to press plate into position. Such a good way of using it. Works both ends for whatever you need to pry into position. Beats using wedges and blocks. Yet again another quality, entertaining and informative video. 👍👍👍
Another nice job !!
Job security... Pays the bills... I like the curved edges on the patches... Great idea....
Hello Oliver from the US. Enjoy your channel and the ways you use tools to manipulate metals to get the job done. Especially like that you use your PPE for your health. Great job and keep them coming!
Thank you!
I will second this comment, enjoy watching your problem solving skills along with all the other content. Also from the US.
@@LeonardRoberts I second your second!
@@LeonardRoberts p.s. I have watched all his videos and I'm starting over from the beginning. After a lifetime of farm and fleet maintenance, I am much impressed!
And i third it.😀
I'm never too old to learn.
There are so many little tricks in one video.
Thanks for sharing
That was an interesting use of a crowbar, and fabricated plates. I usually watch Cutting Edge Engineering Australia, this channel makes a change. 👍🇬🇧
So many nifty tricks in one 30 minute clip.
Amazing work!!! Thanks for the knowledge and the entertainment. Subbed :D
I love your trick with tacking the crowbar down to pry, very handy! I'll use it in the future, thanks :)
Excellent work Oliver, that is better now than when it left the factory. Kurtis at Cutting Edge Engineering is also repairing a CAT D8 bucket. He said as well like you did, his will also leave the shop much better than when it left the factory 👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing. Be safe 🇨🇦
Excellent job as always, Oliver! I'm relieved to see you wearing breathing gear. I am 81 and have interstitial lung disease (and probably COPD) because I was cavalier in dusty, gritty work conditions. Thanks for the excellent video and rescuing this garbage bucket. It's a shame when OEM equipment is not adequate to do the job.
@@chasewilliams5128I am 69. I do and did lots of shooting guns in my younger years. Then worked in the power industries for 32 yrs before I retired. The company I worked for stressed Safety.
I would never mock anyone wearing safety gear.
Well done, you made it to 81. My dad worked in an office most of his life, he died in 2004 aged 79 of emphysema which is a lung disease.
There is also a larger amount of residual radiation in post nuclear bomb steel than steel made prior to the nuclear era.
I have been welding and grinding for many years and own a fabrication business. My lungs are slightly damaged from a mild dose of pneumonia in 2019, but l still crack on and do a day's work.
I am all for health and safety, but in my opinion it is our own responsibility to use it. There is a negative health impact using forced air fed masks too. That being not hearing the thing that could be about to hit you because of the noise from the air pump.
Everything has pros and cons young man!
I try to always wear breathing gear now if I’m doing dusty or Smokey work. I plan on being in this industry for a long time so got to look after myself.
@@JonDingle I recently ruined a spindle on my 1954 Yazoo 60" lawn mower because I was wearing ear protection and failed to hear that the blade had come loose and was spinning on the spindle, destroying the blade mount. I still wear hearing protection, however, as my hearing is already bad enough and I love classical music. (I was able to replace the spindle, btw.)
Crap is a realistic and honest technical evaluation of utter rubbish. Nice repair
Very nice repair. I love your attention to the details. You made the bucket a lot stronger in the weak points. I picked up some great tips watching this video. That will really help me when working my much smaller projects.
Thank you for sharing. Dan. 😊
I wonder if the guys that design and make these buckets might watch this video and feel embarrassed. Olly did a great job of identifying design weaknesses and making this bucket much better than original.
Your like Kurtis from cutting edge engineering. Just do it mentality
Keep these coming binge watched the whole channel this week
Thanks for watching!
I watch you for hours. It’s like going to work without the burns. (I have photos on my channel) I made and altered/repaired attachments for heavy equipment (JCB). To cut that old blade (or a section of that blade) off it is best to get an oxygen/acetylene tractor that travels down a track. You lay down a section of track or two, send the little engine and monitor the gas lines. Long cuts you leapfrog the track as the tractor traverses. It is ideal for cutting the bevel when making blades. JCB failed on this bucket. The sides cracking in the blade area is not a problem when the entire leading edge of the side is a blade. The problem with the wear pad appears to be due to there being no wear plates.
That part with the chain puller/wench (come~a~long) is way easier with a z bar and a wedge. We always sweated the steel before welding especially hard steel like blades/cutting edges. Winter mornings at shift change all the rosebuds would fire up. Booth after booth the Welders would start with a pure gas burn making a flickering mass of a flame twelve feet long then add oxygen changing it to a wide cone fed by gargantuan ball of liquid oxygen and fuel gas a tank farm of monster tanks. Like rich people problems I was not a welder and had no rosebud, I was an assembler/builder and did lay~up. I tack welded the pieces together straight and handed them to a Welder who welded for several days then handed them back for me to put the ears. When I was doing the tungsten embedding I would rosebud a table leg and hug it to stay warm.
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Weld the z-bar to blade haging over the bucket floor or the reverse then tap the wedge until you achieve alignment
Great repair ~ well done 👍🏻 ~ I loved the C shaped strengtheners around the wear pads great idea.
Excellent idea, stepped reinforcement, should work well.
Nice platers hack with tacking the crow bar to close those gaps
Hi, Oliver (we're not mates yet so no "Olly"). I think the skins are too thin for the work the bucket is asked to do. As you know, the cracks occur because the metal is being overstressed, back and forth, over and over until failure. A bucket that thin is almost always a sand bucket. You've done a damn fine job patching and strengthening the bucket and that new edge will wear damn well. But if the bucket continues to get heavy duty use then you will have a frequent customer. Thanks for letting us watch. Cheers.
Another good vid. No bullshit, no shite music.....just straight to the point 😀
I like your videos, you don’t waste my time with a long drawn out intro, just get to it
Thank you Sir
JCB Won't be happy hearing your assessment of their product, but this is what is Needed!
People with engineering degrees are ok but they Lack the practical knowledge
The way you work the metal to fit is very impressive
Great work as always
Cracking video. Good repair as always. I'm surprised at JCB, their name was always a byword for quality, and if anything most of their equipment was over engineered.
Nice repair olly. Makes you wonder about the quality of things like that bucket. I worked for a waste company in the nineties they had bins and skips made by various company's. The best roll on roll off bins they had were made by a company in south wales called PD engineering they were twenty years old and still going strong. I think some manufacturers are sailing close to the sale of goods act. The thing is they get away with a lot because nobody will complain or take them to court. I have seen this with a company that imported and sold readymix trucks the mixers were rubbish they split and the blades came away from the drums in no time. Patches everywhere. The owner of the company asked me what i thought and i told him to see a solicitor he ended up scrapping the drums and having a remanufactured drum made by an independent engineering company.😁❤ Ruth.
always love everything you do...best wishes from the US, Paul
Many thanks!
Superb! Another item vastly improved.
well done, exactly how I cut them off, what I do as one driver continually runs with the bucket on the concrete is weld ar450 patches underneath which has put pay to his game.
Hi Oliver, nice bit of plate work there buddy, thoroughly enjoyed this, thanks for sharing, have a great one 👍
Lads at a local boiler shop had a "sideline" making buckets on night shift and they were really good quality. A farmer turned up at their office wanting one, "We don't make buckets here, only cranes and boilers" was the reply. The farmer insisted as his mate had got three from them previously, I think a couple of bloke's ended up getting their P45's !😢
Snitches get stitches 🤣
Classic mistake, never go to the front office, always ask the workshop first 😂
I do love this type of videos, was it my eyesight side edges, it looked to me as if the steel had a 180 degree fold in it, and not a single bit of steel, love this type of content putting manufacturers blatant cost cutting measures right
Yes the sides are folded back around on themselves.
@@snowballengineering very cheap way to get thicker steel
Gday, definitely built in quantity not quality and sadly that happens a lot nowadays, at least now it’s got a bit more life left in it, great job mate, cheers
It was only made in 2018 as well!
Thanks Matty.
JCB keeping you busy with repair work - don't shout about their shoddy buckets too loud :)
It’s an absolute pleasure to watch, Excellent video
Glad you enjoyed it
Mais um ótimo trabalho. Parabéns!
Good job !!! You sure beefed up that booket !!!
Nice, clean and accurate job! Well done. I'm enjoying your channel and content. I hope your channel grows and grows for you!
Much appreciated!
Amazing work. Your skills are awesome. What a fabricator. Hell of a welder to boot. I wish I could do a fraction of what you can do.
Love how like Curtis over at CEE, you say it how it is. 👍 That bucket is probably ok for moving soft cheese, however even then it's dubious. 🤗
Makes me laugh when u put on your welding jacket. Reminds me on one of my Chemistry teachers back in the early 1980’s. Excellent job as always.
Trying to protect myself from the uv light 😆
Another good viewing on a Saturday morn
Would you say JCB need a review of their welding procedure, looks like it to me
We have two Manitou MLT 627 buckets with exactly the same failure points ... Boss says just keep welding them! Only used for horse manure and light duties, but they scrape on a concrete floor and the chap before me wasn't so careful using them! I like the extra suport for the pads .. have to look further at that, show the boss.
As a beef farmer in Derbyshire,,I quite often drive past JCB world factory in Uttoxeter...Maybe you should drop them an email,,and how to not ""make crap buckets"""
I bet you don't get a reply..😂👍💯💯
You sure get a variety of different work in. That bucket was made out of material that was just too thin for the size of the bucket, so no doubt it's going to crack again and you'll likely see it again for more repairs. It's pretty obvious that it's too thin by the dents in the bottom of the bucket.
Better than new. Thanks for the videos.
Great video as always, one thing when you preheat the metal can you add the temperature to your description. information is always good.
thanks.
Awesome job as usual. Thanks for Sharing! 👌👍😊
Thats some welder you have ,good job done!
nice neat and tidy job as usual 👍
Great example for an light material bucket that was used for to heavy applications. I don't know but I would guess that the bucket is original made for material 0.3T/m² or some thing like that. Hopefully all your work holds up well and the cracking doesn't started along the new welds again.
Awesome video, thank you
Great repair and improvements 👍.
Guessing the thick pads and straps on the underside are too rigid compared to the thin skin? Steeped reinforcement looks excellent.
The longer Flitch plates certainly look better than the original stress raisers.
Thanks for sharing 👍
Common sense engineering is hard to beat. The old bucket was an incredible example of bad engineering. All the cracks and lack of support on a branded product is abysmal. The finished product is good. Preheating helps with stress, reducing moisture and reduced hydrogen which reduces the potential for cracking. All in all a great job. Keep safe and well 👍
Nice job. And all this knowing very well that after some time it will crack again.
Nice work!
Great video mate!
As for being committed vs just dedicated: An old farmer explained the difference by saying you had to first look at a plate of bacon and eggs. In that example, the chicken was dedicated, but the pig was committed. I think of that when you mention you are already committed!
Hallo du hast eine wirklich wunderbare Arbeit geleistet, bei der großen baggerschaufel geleistet, Hut ab vor deiner Arbeit 😃😃😃😃:-) LG, Herbst Johann/ Österreich
Very nice work. This kind of work is hard on the body. Try to save your back and knees. Like bending over to weld the bottom of the cutting edge on. Very hard on your back when you could raise it up with the fork lift. I just had my second back surgery and can't do much of anything anymore. Take care of yourself while you are young. Regards
much better by far nice job !!
Are there any decent aftermarket buckets to be had or would it be better to buy an old one and spend a few quid fixing it up? JCB seem to be going the way of the rest of British manufacturing caring more about profits than quality
General any that are not mass produced. My experience with mass produced buckets like this is they are built to a price not a standard.
@@snowballengineeringStrimech has or Eastern attachments made JCB buckets I thought? Of the rest Allbutt seem reasonable. If you were closer to Cornwall I'd have you make one!
Y ou ARE a wonderfull craftsman
Go Snowball! I really enjoy your channel 👍
a job well done.......Cheers, Paul
I would imagine that steel is to hard and thin and can't keep up the the stress the Tele handler put on it it would hold a good bit of wheat day in day out loading not to mention the odd soil pile lol lol well done awesome job ...I can remember having a toe tip root basket made by suton engineering Norfolk that worked well for a time ..
Well done great improvement.
At the vocational school, our teacher showed and told how and why the wear blade of the bucket is better so that it is in the middle about 2-3 cm lower than the corners, the blade wears much more evenly and not the corners first.
an ole saying is so true.....the devil is in the details.... you seem to miss nothing .... and give your customer the best product possible
First time I've seen a sacrificial crowbar...
Me to...
I've always used a piece of flat bar or whatever was at hand for the same thing..
But maybe it's a cheap crowbar, bought for this use only ..
I bought the bar specifically for that job 😆
For what these buckets are they do look good from a distance but as you say jot really good when looked at on these repairs .. nice job as always like the use of the crowbar . Lol. Thanks for sharing
great job thanks
The problem with weld on strips is that they're part of the frame so as they wear thin the bucket bows as you said, a customer of a mate of mine always has a strip welded on a new bucket before he uses it, and replaces it as soon as it starts to kiss the original 👍
The customer did ask if I could weld the new edge onto the old but it’s difficult once it’s worn as it doesn’t fit up properly.
Yes, totally agree, absolute pig to do on a worn one, as I understand it this guy does it to a new bucket and keeps that as a base line 👍
Gorgeous!!
A big project
I think your into a never ending relationship with that bucket !
It looks to me to be a design made for light duty low bulk density feed handling. It’s clearly being used for more rigorous use ? You have done what can be done to extend its life , I suspect it will be back in the shop again. Nice work to get it back serviceable!
Great job.
Hello "Snowball"
Nice job. 👍👍👍
Hello 👋🏻
Thanks!
Great job mate.
We took some 3/8 rectangular tubing on a 45 and put 6 total 4 on the back and 2 just behind cutting edge to make it so bucket doesn’t rack and twist
You can certainly see JCB build them on a budget. Doesn't actually look like it's even that old from the paint on it!
Is the lack of bracing/support causing flexing then intern cracking all the welds?
2018 it was made.
Great job, I always do a triple run on cutting edge, was just how I was shown, great work and set up. One question, do you not isolate the battery on forks when welding while using forks to support the workpiece? I got a great bit of kit online, "anti-zap" basically a serge protector for electrics, we mainly do vehicle welding repair and the anti zap saves disconnecting the battery and having to re-code the radio etc. Would love to have the balls to do videos myself, keep up the great work 👨🏻🏭👍
If I’m welding on something with a computer I’ll turn off the isolator or disconnect the battery but I’ve never had any issues with old stuff. I think I do have a serge protector somewhere
Is the bucket manufactured out of hardox steel?😁❤
Great vid thanks for sharing any progress on fergi 👍
Still no progress on the fergy since the first video.
I like your skill set. Just subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
Great work young man. The metal in that bucket is probably cheapand from the Ping Pong Products factory on the other side of India. Poor quality control, throw anything in and shove the sheet steel in a container marked UK.
Where I used to work at, we would heat treat the entire piece after we got done welding. That way we did not have cracks.
Great work! What is the purpose of stitch welding the back side of the cutting blade instead of fully welding it out?
There isn’t really any need to fully weld it on as there’s no real strength to be gained, just makes it more difficult to remove next time.
Great video,why didnt you put a full weld on back?
No need. It doesn’t really add any strength and makes it more difficult to remove next time.
Do you use solid core ER70 for everything? Great work 👌🏻👌🏻
Reason for the Bucket falling apart, is JCB doesn't want it's Attachments, to out live it's Equipment.
Truth is, it's a Budget Friendly / Base model Bucket. That You will see come in to Your shop more often, because it's cheaper to have you keep repairing, then for them to go Buy a Good Bucket, That you only have to see when the wear bits need replacing. So it's a Money Maker for You!
This weld distortion at end,can be fixed with oxy-acetylene torch and hammer.
Nice!
was there many hours work in this job ??
Which filler wire have you used on that HB500? Would it need a better preheating if it’s 65mil thick cutting edge ?
top show.
Ollie do you think that those cracks come about because of poor quality welding wire or rods? Somerset Mike.
I think it’s the steel they use. They’re marketed as made from high strength steel to make the overall weight lighter
Something that would improve your video is to add some commentary. Even if it a voice over added later. For example, maybe you could explain why you use the angle grinder when you did instead of gouging.
How is the fit with the 3M Speedglas. I have to say it's worth every penny. Can you tell us what equipment you prefer and why? Good job done and nice to see a Brit doing it too. Super!
Fits good, I have the proper ear defenders to fit underneath it as well. Which equipment do you mean?
@@snowballengineering Welding machines in particular and how you set them up. What makes you prefer and why.