10/10 after this video i decided to download arch linux, so far it has been great (long battery life, little to no distractions and most importantly no ads in my os). i have made the decision to buy a new laptop and there is a 99% chance it will be a framework. I use arch btw
How is the battery life with your Framework? I received one too with the 7840u, but the battery life isn't that great. When the device is sleeping, it loses 4-5% per hour
I have had a similar issue with battery drain on my past laptop when I used Ubuntu. My friend also used Fedora for a while and noticed similar issues. Weirdly, when we both switched to Arch Linux, our poor battery life problems were solved. Weird I know...
There are guides on the community forums, I am getting easily 8+ with regular workflow. Close to 20 if just idling. On standby it lasts like 4 days. (61w battery, using fedora).
@@Epereira56The only guide that I have followed is the one on the official wiki. I have seen some discussions on the forum attempting to fix the issues, but I don't want to read over 300 messages just to fix a problem that shouldn't be there
On the framework laptop, hardware support has been flawless. Everything works out-of-the-box. Unfortunately not all laptops have flawless hardware support.
@@chicky6939 why not buy an apple laptop? I recently bought an M1 air 8/256 for 600 bucks that lasts 8+ hours under medium load for a friend. He had a windows laptop before. He said that it's impressive how quite and performant such a small laptop can be
I really dont see point in running linux. Battery life is much better on windows and even if you are worried about "privacy" cause many linux users use it because of that its still not worth it and also if you use android, ios or windows phone you are losing "privacy" whatsoever
I actually find (generally) that Linux battery life is better, although it is case dependent... I understand that some people find the privacy argument to not hold much merit, which is very reasonable and varies from person to person. Overall it is a choice for the user for which operating system suits their needs the most. I personally find the idea of big tech to be scary and something to be avoided where possible. I don't chose Linux for the privacy, per se, but the free and open source model which governs the Linux stack. (improved privacy is just a subjectively good byproduct of software transparency) it's important to note that having a good system and having free and open source software is not mutually exclusive. However, since you pay for your computer, you have the right to do what you would like. I can't stop you, nor do I want to since Windows clearly works for you! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video.
Because Linux on Hyper-V sucks. Windows on Proxmox rocks (for the pesky people who still send .docx/.xlsx etc.). And because you don't have to install wsl to have all your useful tools (special big love for 'awk' after years of services). And because Framework wors out of the box with Linux. And yes, battery life can be suprinsingly good with Linux (for the funny story : I installed Debian a few weeks ago on an old HP 840 G2 : Battery life with Debian : 1 hour. With Windows 11 : 15 minutes (and with Debian, no drivers to download !).
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10/10 after this video i decided to download arch linux, so far it has been great (long battery life, little to no distractions and most importantly no ads in my os). i have made the decision to buy a new laptop and there is a 99% chance it will be a framework.
I use arch btw
wow! After watching this helpful video I will be sure to definitely buy a framework laptop! Thanks for the advice Chicky!
Well done! Finally, a reviewer using his Framework the way God intended... with Arch Linux!!!
I wish Framework Laptop 13 can offer battery life as 90wH power, touch-screens.
Awesome review, thanks! I'm seriously considering to buy it
thanks for the video.
cool review bro
How is the battery life with your Framework? I received one too with the 7840u, but the battery life isn't that great. When the device is sleeping, it loses 4-5% per hour
I have had a similar issue with battery drain on my past laptop when I used Ubuntu. My friend also used Fedora for a while and noticed similar issues. Weirdly, when we both switched to Arch Linux, our poor battery life problems were solved. Weird I know...
@@chicky6939 I've tried to use EndeavourOS which is very similar to Arch, but the battery issues are still there
newer kernel, better graphics performance as well@@chicky6939
There are guides on the community forums, I am getting easily 8+ with regular workflow. Close to 20 if just idling. On standby it lasts like 4 days. (61w battery, using fedora).
@@Epereira56The only guide that I have followed is the one on the official wiki. I have seen some discussions on the forum attempting to fix the issues, but I don't want to read over 300 messages just to fix a problem that shouldn't be there
Whats battery like?
Whats support like on Linux? Have you found any piece of hardware not working properly? Any workarounds?
On the framework laptop, hardware support has been flawless. Everything works out-of-the-box.
Unfortunately not all laptops have flawless hardware support.
@@chicky6939 that's exactly why I wanted to know, thank you!
5 hours of battery life is pathetic
I've seen many modern laptops with worse. My Dell XPS averages 2-3 hours.
@@chicky6939 why not buy an apple laptop? I recently bought an M1 air 8/256 for 600 bucks that lasts 8+ hours under medium load for a friend. He had a windows laptop before. He said that it's impressive how quite and performant such a small laptop can be
I really dont see point in running linux. Battery life is much better on windows and even if you are worried about "privacy" cause many linux users use it because of that its still not worth it and also if you use android, ios or windows phone you are losing "privacy" whatsoever
I actually find (generally) that Linux battery life is better, although it is case dependent... I understand that some people find the privacy argument to not hold much merit, which is very reasonable and varies from person to person. Overall it is a choice for the user for which operating system suits their needs the most. I personally find the idea of big tech to be scary and something to be avoided where possible. I don't chose Linux for the privacy, per se, but the free and open source model which governs the Linux stack. (improved privacy is just a subjectively good byproduct of software transparency) it's important to note that having a good system and having free and open source software is not mutually exclusive. However, since you pay for your computer, you have the right to do what you would like. I can't stop you, nor do I want to since Windows clearly works for you! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video.
always get linux laptops from work, cause they can't put MDM on it
lol xD
Because Linux on Hyper-V sucks. Windows on Proxmox rocks (for the pesky people who still send .docx/.xlsx etc.).
And because you don't have to install wsl to have all your useful tools (special big love for 'awk' after years of services).
And because Framework wors out of the box with Linux.
And yes, battery life can be suprinsingly good with Linux (for the funny story : I installed Debian a few weeks ago on an old HP 840 G2 : Battery life with Debian : 1 hour. With Windows 11 : 15 minutes (and with Debian, no drivers to download !).