Hope Carl gave you permision to wear the daytona, I would not like someone wearing my watch for 2 months if I take it for service. Also, no date is better
A date window at the 4:30 position, no matter how well executed, will never appear as anything more than an afterthought to me. Would vastly prefer a pointer date on most styles and wish we saw these more frequently.
I hate it when luxury brands steal from other brands. Those sub dials are more or less an exact copy of the Daytona! AP should be able to come up with something by themselves. I expect stealing from brands like Invicta, but not from AP!
Need a date! From a design perspective, get it, it throws things off normally. But any excuse to not pull my phone out to reference something my watch can, well...
This is a huge one for me. Our society needs to get away from whipping out the phones in the presence of family, friends and clients/partners. This has been somewhat of a forbidden practice in some of my previous workplaces.
Tbh i never really got that date vs design thing as i like functionality as well. Until I saw the patek calantrava. and then further on the nomos Ludwig. Now I think that small seconds watch designs may look cleaner or more proportioned without date/day
Prefer the chrono without a date, but don't mind too much since it looks so good. More important to me is that the ap chrono has no displayback, low water resistance and low power reserve. Are you sure it's platinum by the way? I can only see a WG ice blue chrono on the website.
Christian, the Chopard you introduced in the video is stunning; especially, in the red & blue dials. I went to Chopard's website to research the Chopard Alpine Eagle and only found the blue & gray dials. Could you share the reference numbers for the Alpine Eagle watches that you show in this video. Greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
Date window is a must. One of the most useful functions on the daily. Hope Carl ok’ed you wearing his in-service watch while he waited for it’s return! Does that happen at other repair shops?
Regarding a date window on watches: If I only had one daily watch, i would want a date on it. If I have multiple daily watches, like I do, I don’t require a date. At least one of them needs a date tho.
Got a nodate sub a few months ago, do find myself looking for the date and remembering it doesn’t have one. Dates are actually so useful but I didn’t appreciate it!
Frickin vintage pieces! I have a bit of a weakness for Soviet era pieces from the GDP and Russia. Yeah, you can can do the wind to 2 & back to 10 & repeat thing, but still... And frickin' day/date complicatons on vintage pieces?...and the more time consuming the day or date change is, the smaller and more difficult to operate the crown seems to be! I have this picture in my head of 2 watchmakers hanging out on a Friday arvo cracking each other up by creatingnew and novel ways to make a timepiece difficult to interact with!
I want to share a tidbit of knowledge about the AP Royal Oak as regards to advancing the date. I was stunned and flabbergasted to find out that despite AP being a member of the Swiss Triad & the prestige that comes with it, the only way to advance the date is to wind the watch past midnight! At this price and with AP's pedigree you would expect to pull out the crown to a second position and advance the date forward (and backwards on some high end brands). So AP having a date function on the Royal Oak only reminds me that it is a lot of work to set the date if you need to advance it more then one day.
Date window is super important, specially for someone who plans ahead and depends on their calendar as a daily tool. I normally need the date and a seconds hand on a watch. If it's missing one of those two it's normally no longer an option for me.
Regarding Furlan Marii: "Andrea Furlan is a Swiss designer who graduated from the elite ECAL (École cantonale d’art de Lausanne) and went on to work for different brands such as Chopard, Hublot, Sarcar and HD3. He is perhaps most famous for having worked on designing Dominique Renaud’s DR01, a watch so baffling that only Jack Forster, Suzanne Wong and let’s hope Dominique Renaud understand it." You are so accomplished and you come up with a copy of Patek with $20 movement inside. Hard pass!
I like dates on watches but I prefer them either at 3:00 or 6:00. Not the biggest fan of them at the 4:00 position but the date wheel color matching the dial and with the chronograph sundials sort of masking it does help. However, looking at the AP Code 11:59 time only and the 4:00 date window is a travesty. It sticks out in such an odd way that it should just be removed. That by itself would significantly increase my appreciation for the 11:59 model line.
I actually use the date on my watches, but it doesn’t matter than much because we have our phones. It’s no Cyclopes lens but it blends very well with that AP
I love my Blancpain Leman Flyback, it's an absolute sleeper and I would happily have it over a Daytona every day of the week. Yeah, yeah, resale value of the Rolex is way better, but how many people do you see in your day to day Life wearing a BP vs a Rolex. Plus, the dial and finishing on the BP is WAY nicer than a $15,000 or $20,000 Daytona. Thanks to the RGM aftermarket glass case back I can appreciate that fine finishing and solid gold rotor. Great content guys! Thank you!
To me personally that date window on the royal oak ruined the whole thing. Totally unnecessary and worse either at 4:30 or blocking one of the registers, I really dislike that. At least they matched the bacground color to the dial.
For anyone interested - there is a wonderful 2 part mini doc on TH-cam about the birth of the Fifty. 1 hour total, just fantastic. It speaks of the visionary who created one of the first efficient under water tool watches - even when everyone else was telling him there was no future in an under water watch. Jean Jacques Fiechter. Great watch.
I will always prefer a date. I can do without a day function because I prefer the look without it even though I love having the function of it. But date is always a must for my top watch.
Sad to see hi end watch company just copy from one another for their design ,if it is a cheap brand no one will complaint.Therefore ,these companies are cutting corners in R&D ,yet still charge a lot on their customers.Think customer be warn.
I think the date is to much! For a simple dial is great but for a more complex multiple incorporate complication dial is to much - even in a Sub - no date is better at least for me.
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The Royal Oak Chronograph is actually made of white gold, not platinum. Ref. 26317BC
Goddamnit you’re right, description being updated
This has to become a weekly conversation/segment. Easiest video to watch from you guys
I assume Carl gave you his permission to wear his Daytona for months while it was in for servicing?
Hope Carl gave you permision to wear the daytona, I would not like someone wearing my watch for 2 months if I take it for service. Also, no date is better
Always appreciate these candid chats with the T&H team...just 2 guys talking watches & sphincters...
Piol pool pippin I ioi
So… where’s Anna?
And yes to the the date window.
Anna was replaced by this guy. I liked Anna.
Where is Anna??? We want Anna.
What mustache?
Did he know you wore his 100K watch for 2 months?
A date window at the 4:30 position, no matter how well executed, will never appear as anything more than an afterthought to me. Would vastly prefer a pointer date on most styles and wish we saw these more frequently.
Now that you said cartoon pizza on the watch. It's something you can't unsee it. 😳
Same thing happened to me when my buddies wife said the Zenith Chrono's look like Mickey Mouse silhouette... can't un-see... really sad day :-(
@@jhcowatchinglifestyle 🤣🤣🤣
Mustaches and two-tone watches coming back in style 😤💯🤣
I hate it when luxury brands steal from other brands. Those sub dials are more or less an exact copy of the Daytona! AP should be able to come up with something by themselves. I expect stealing from brands like Invicta, but not from AP!
I use the date complication on my watches a LOT. It's a shame some watches just look gorgeous without one
The more I watch these videos the more I become aware of Christian's lack of basic watch history.
The date window is trash on the royal oak chronograph. It isn't even properly aligned in between the two indices. What is that about?
You guys chemistry is great to watch. Like brothers from different mothers 😁
Obv same dad tho.
Need a date! From a design perspective, get it, it throws things off normally. But any excuse to not pull my phone out to reference something my watch can, well...
This is a huge one for me. Our society needs to get away from whipping out the phones in the presence of family, friends and clients/partners. This has been somewhat of a forbidden practice in some of my previous workplaces.
Tbh i never really got that date vs design thing as i like functionality as well. Until I saw the patek calantrava. and then further on the nomos Ludwig. Now I think that small seconds watch designs may look cleaner or more proportioned without date/day
Prefer the chrono without a date, but don't mind too much since it looks so good. More important to me is that the ap chrono has no displayback, low water resistance and low power reserve.
Are you sure it's platinum by the way? I can only see a WG ice blue chrono on the website.
Great video! Keep up the great sense of humor!
Christian, the Chopard you introduced in the video is stunning; especially, in the red & blue dials. I went to Chopard's website to research the Chopard Alpine Eagle and only found the blue & gray dials. Could you share the reference numbers for the Alpine Eagle watches that you show in this video. Greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
Date window is a must. One of the most useful functions on the daily. Hope Carl ok’ed you wearing his in-service watch while he waited for it’s return! Does that happen at other repair shops?
Regarding a date window on watches:
If I only had one daily watch, i would want a date on it.
If I have multiple daily watches, like I do, I don’t require a date. At least one of them needs a date tho.
Got a nodate sub a few months ago, do find myself looking for the date and remembering it doesn’t have one. Dates are actually so useful but I didn’t appreciate it!
What happened to Anna?
Date is just one more pain ... have to set it. No quick set date even more of a pain.
Frickin vintage pieces!
I have a bit of a weakness for Soviet era pieces from the GDP and Russia. Yeah, you can can do the wind to 2 & back to 10 & repeat thing, but still...
And frickin' day/date complicatons on vintage pieces?...and the more time consuming the day or date change is, the smaller and more difficult to operate the crown seems to be!
I have this picture in my head of 2 watchmakers hanging out on a Friday arvo cracking each other up by creatingnew and novel ways to make a timepiece difficult to interact with!
I want to share a tidbit of knowledge about the AP Royal Oak as regards to advancing the date. I was stunned and flabbergasted to find out that despite AP being a member of the Swiss Triad & the prestige that comes with it, the only way to advance the date is to wind the watch past midnight! At this price and with AP's pedigree you would expect to pull out the crown to a second position and advance the date forward (and backwards on some high end brands). So AP having a date function on the Royal Oak only reminds me that it is a lot of work to set the date if you need to advance it more then one day.
Date window is super important, specially for someone who plans ahead and depends on their calendar as a daily tool. I normally need the date and a seconds hand on a watch. If it's missing one of those two it's normally no longer an option for me.
I prefer a date on a watch, but a bad date window can kill a watch.
Where Anna ?
Why I watch Theo & Harris? 50% watches 50% christian clothes style/combinations
This is one of the best uploads! Loved every minute of it. More Michael and Christian posts, these are so fun!
Regarding Furlan Marii: "Andrea Furlan is a Swiss designer who graduated from the elite ECAL (École cantonale d’art de Lausanne) and went on to work for different brands such as Chopard, Hublot, Sarcar and HD3. He is perhaps most famous for having worked on designing Dominique Renaud’s DR01, a watch so baffling that only Jack Forster, Suzanne Wong and let’s hope Dominique Renaud understand it." You are so accomplished and you come up with a copy of Patek with $20 movement inside. Hard pass!
"you can rob a vegan"
- christian zeron 2021
HOW HAVE I ONLY JUST FOUND THIS PAGE?!?! :O
What moustache
“If I was a celebrity dog Walker...!” 😂 “you can rob a vegan.” Fucking hell gents this was a funny one
I like dates on watches but I prefer them either at 3:00 or 6:00. Not the biggest fan of them at the 4:00 position but the date wheel color matching the dial and with the chronograph sundials sort of masking it does help. However, looking at the AP Code 11:59 time only and the 4:00 date window is a travesty. It sticks out in such an odd way that it should just be removed. That by itself would significantly increase my appreciation for the 11:59 model line.
Yes, the date window is especially important to me. I catch myself using it very often throughout the day for my work.
Date window - YES! I really wish the Daytona was offered with a date.
I actually use the date on my watches, but it doesn’t matter than much because we have our phones. It’s no Cyclopes lens but it blends very well with that AP
One of the nicest date windows out there but still always vastly prefer no date
Once a pair of trimmers have been up a mans nose those trimmers are his for life...
Also, could I just point out that the 6594 you have in the shop is a manual wind therefore cannot be a perpetual.
Was a pleasure to watch this, funny and informative
Funny you two. More vids like this good banter and partnership
I love my Blancpain Leman Flyback, it's an absolute sleeper and I would happily have it over a Daytona every day of the week. Yeah, yeah, resale value of the Rolex is way better, but how many people do you see in your day to day Life wearing a BP vs a Rolex. Plus, the dial and finishing on the BP is WAY nicer than a $15,000 or $20,000 Daytona. Thanks to the RGM aftermarket glass case back I can appreciate that fine finishing and solid gold rotor. Great content guys! Thank you!
Guys thanks for the great content. Quick question where is Anna ?
Holy Frak! You were born in 1995?? I was a platoon leader at FT Campbell way back then.
Carl sounds like my kinda dude.
Something needs to be done? Full send it! Lol 👍
"You could rob a vegan" love it😂
Yes need the date
Great video!
To me personally that date window on the royal oak ruined the whole thing. Totally unnecessary and worse either at 4:30 or blocking one of the registers, I really dislike that. At least they matched the bacground color to the dial.
Date window is an absolute must, pretty much on any watch. It's a deal breaker.
The arrogance is strong in this one.
great video - besides the triangle curve on christians hat lol
Date or no date really depends on the overall design aesthetic for me. For the RO I could live without the date for sure.
1. Nice color choice, Chopard
2. I actually am on the treadmill 🤣
Yes - The date is the most useful complicaton for me besides the hands
Always prefer no date !
Here for the Alpine Eagle. Just bought a blue dial one. Very beautiful watch, and is a underdog. I prefer it over my Rolex Daydate for daily wear.
Anything with a slanted date window like that is an instant no-go
Where’s Anna ?
A date window is a must
Alpine Eagle or Octo Finissimo?
Octo.....always
This is a dope format! Hopefully we get more of these.
Date window usually ruins the dial, like in this case.
I want to hang out with you both haha. This vid was awesome.
I’m takin the dog, forget about it....
1815 chronograph in white gold with the black dial is my grail.
Feels like The and Harris is back! Great great show buddy!
The Chopard indeed is a stunner
Everyone copies from Rolex. Now even the holy trinity. That’s the power they have in 2021. Maybe Rolex should be named ‘the almighty one’.
For anyone interested - there is a wonderful 2 part mini doc on TH-cam about the birth of the Fifty. 1 hour total, just fantastic.
It speaks of the visionary who created one of the first efficient under water tool watches - even when everyone else was telling him there was no future in an under water watch. Jean Jacques Fiechter.
Great watch.
Theres a movie about the Radium girls (2018), they talk about real events, exactly as Christian explained
Date is important
He's more of a Jeff Goldbloom with that moustache.
I dont care for the date unless its a callender watch
I will always prefer a date. I can do without a day function because I prefer the look without it even though I love having the function of it. But date is always a must for my top watch.
That Platinum RO is insane!! Plus you get a solid arm workout just wearing it
So much for the “holy trinity” being above Rolex. First AP cozies up to Marvel comics, now they copy an allegedly lower tier brand.
Sad to see hi end watch company just copy from one another for their design ,if it is a cheap brand no one will complaint.Therefore ,these companies are cutting corners in R&D ,yet still charge a lot on their customers.Think customer be warn.
22:20- Now introducing: The Chopard Goatse
Love these videos
Own both the steel Daytona and royal oak. I love the Daytona but the AP is a cut above. WAY above. I imagine the platinum is no different
Christian has had a "coke nose" since the days when he made videos in his car.
All my watches have a date complication.
I think the date is to much! For a simple dial is great but for a more complex multiple incorporate complication dial is to much - even in a Sub - no date is better at least for me.
Everyone thinks I'm a cocaine addict sniff
Yes the date matters!
Day date is a must for me
Yep, date
No date.
I'd choose the AP over the platinum daytona for sure
Would not buy a watch without the date
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I prefer symmetry over date
Karl literally put the tool into the term “tool watch”😂 Also, if Rollie really stole your nose trimmer he’s one disgusting man🤣
Love having the date window, that's why I went with chrono AP rather than a Daytona, not to mention AP is a lot more exclusive.
They are literally everywhere, let’s not kid ourselves. With a shittier movement
@@花旗陳冠希 awwww lol how adorable
Interesting content. Regards.
great episode!