The Historical Accuracy of Bounty Hunting in Red Dead Online
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So how historically accurate is the bounty reward system in RDO? That's the question we're diving into here. To find an answer I've dug into several newspaper archives from the 1800s, as well as scholarly journals I located on JSTOR's digital library. The main source used for this week's video was an article called 'Rewards, Bounty Hunting, and Criminal Justice in the West: 1865-1900', by Stuart H. Traub, in the Western Historical Quarterly, Vol. 19, No. 3 (Aug., 1988), pp. 287-301.
Topics covered include: Historical bounty reward ranges; Historical rewards of 'Legendary Bounties' such as Billy the Kid, Butch Cassidy, the Sundance Kid, John Wesley Hardin, & Jesse James; The historical price difference (or lack thereof) on living vs. deceased bounty targets; Reasons for the abundance of deceased bounties in history; Botching the end of Black Jack Ketchum; The historical inaccuracy of the mythical 'Lone Wolf' bounty hunter; Civilian perception of amateur bounty hunters; The purpose of the bounty system; Civilian successes in the bounty game; The complications with bounty payout eligibility; Loopholes in the bounty system; Ways to improve the current RDO bounty system, and potential sheriff role.
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in the wild west, once a bounty was found, the bounty hunter had nine minutes to get them back to town. after that nine minutes, even if the bounty was walked into the jail and placed on the floor, nobody cared and the person was no longer a wanted criminal
Ha! Exactly!
According to my history teacher it was actually 12 mins.
I WOULD bring the bounty in 9/12 minutes, but these fuckers keep showing up like "How about we take that bounty from you?"
And they would only pay you w decent amount of money if you turned him in at the last second
two things ( date made is 12/13/2020 or 13/12/2020)
1: arthur mogans bouny must be the biggest in the rdr2 universe if you went down the dishornerable path
2: RDR2 online legendary bountys have 5 different levels 1 star (low payout for easyer bounty) level 5 ( high payout for harder to catch bounty) but the cost moves to around 250$ and example of this is the bauw bounty at level 5 alive you get around 250$
You should figure out how much it would have cost for 23 people to get to Tahiti, so we can see if Dutch was bullshitting us all along
Ha! I love this! Good stuff, Rasmus.
Thank you :)
@@ManvsHistory but yeah please do it, it would be funny and interesting
With the amount of money they gained I wouldn't be surprised if they could buy Tahiti
@@ManvsHistory wait I actually want this
History: $50-$500 bounty for one person for murder
RDO: Tier 3 bounty, 6 targets brought in alive, $60
Legendary bounties including serial killers: "Aaaaaa idk here have 25 dollars"
That's the sad truth folks. The only good way of making money as a bounty hunter is having the collector role so you can look collectables off bodies.
@@polarshoe5078 The bounty hunter role is only good for getting gold tbh
Could you do one on the historical accuracy of griefers nabbing your trade goods 30 feet from the finish? and in extension, explosive ammo?
I've been there, Ghetty. I feel your pain!
If you close the app fast, the mission will be cancelled and your wagon will be fine
Don't do long distance delivery without posse unless you want to taunt other players (I sometimes do for fun and then just before they can get a reward I disconnect the internet). FUN!
For safety, do short delivery on defensive mode if on your own - if still attacked (unlikely), turn off the internet and like other commentator said your goods will be back at the camp.
People actually get griefed in this game? :l
@@ShinFahima its not nearly as bad now as before in the beta days but griefing happens here and then.
BREAKING NEWS!
Infamous outlaw known as "Rockstar", charged with complete inaccuracies, has been brought to justice.
The perpetrator was turned in by the great Man vs. History.
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Ha! I love it!
$13
@@otterfan65 don't forget the 0.08 gold
@@NegativeSaber or 0.1 gold
@@NegativeSaber In this town there lived an outlaw by the name of Texas Red
Many men had tried to take him and that many men were dead
He was vicious and a killer though a youth of 24
And the notches on his pistol numbered one and 19 more
One and 19 more
Nowhere near enough exposure for this channel.
You're the best, Apple. Super motivating to hear that.
Agreed
I second this... want more of your videos, truly fantastic stuff.
I’d love to see the historical accuracy of weapon pricing...
Well, the reason why they made the bounties so low was so that Rockstar could sell more gold bars
I guess if they get sued again for the GTA 6 release they will lose a lot of money again.
@@RolandBon most of the lawsuits dont stand
I love how how if you turn in a bounty dead in red dead online they basically give you a nickel and a cube of cheese and expect you to be grateful
A cube of cheese. Hilarious hahahaha
“5,000 dollars? For me? Can I turn myself in?”
No you pay 5000 for your own bounty lol
@@MultiRainday Did u even play red dead
@@jstone8513 what do you mean? If you turn yourself in you won't get any money lol.
sugart bruh it's a line Arthur says
Me wearing a red, gray, white and black open collar 3 piece suit with a stalker hat thinking I looked like a bounty hunter just because I saw roger wear it in a western ep from American dad
Could you do “Historical accuracy of Moonshiners and Revenue Agents”.
This is a good suggestion. Revenue agents, like Texas Rangers and other agents of law enforcement during the American expansion... bent a few rules, and are part of why we have brutality laws.
You may just get your wish soon, Chewie....
Revenue Agents are almost like the Cossacks of The United States. They were mean nasty thugs that would do the bidding of the state.
Me still waiting for a historical accurate outfit for bounty hunting
🙃
There's 3 legendary bountys you have to bring in alive when you hit 4 stars Etta Doyle,The Trapper, And the Wolfman
and yukon nik
@@FreeAimDog Yukon Nik is "The Trapper"
Why do you have to bring them in alive
@@blackxshad1845 If you were to kill the bounty the mission will fail and you would have to do the mission again.
@@blackxshad1845 why wouldn't you want to? You get half the payout for dead bounties, normal or legendary, and it typically takes a bit longer to bring them in alive as you have to take care not to kill them and likely chase them down to hogtied them, netting you a bigger payout because Rockstar doesn't reward you for being an efficient bounty hunter
That man wanted about 1 million dollars in today’s money just to arrest two cowboys
I definitely agree there needs to be a Sheriff role. Including deputizing of friends etc. This is something they definitely could make work and be fun, but again, this is Rockstar. They don't care about RDO right now and are by far the worst company I have ever seen with community engagement.
Funny how it was only after shark cards took off, did rockstar turn in to a lazy bunch of dickheads 🙄 this issue is a plague to gaming.
@@Wanderingwalker-ke6mg For sure, and those who continuously put money on the shark cards don't seem to realize they are contributing to Rockstars complacency. Or simply just don't care.
@XxxTHAT GRUxxx dude it will never happen as much likely I'll never buy another rOckStAr title but they are gonna start focusing on online more so hope they get better but the story will probably be short and good
HA should take a look at ubisoft been waiting awhile for another good assassins creed game
Your idea of the 'tracking down' gameplay is so good compared to what we have atm. A newsletter detailing outlaws' last known locations, physical descriptions, known associates, etc, having you start a longer manhunt sounds waaay more fun than eagleeye-ing some dead end clues until one leads to the guy lol That would've been so cool to see on the latest bounty hunting update!
Man I love history but I never realized how much I love “Wild West History”
Your Chanel is going to blow up!
Thanks Oscar! Super motivating!
Man… I wouldn’t survive in the Old Wild West
if i remember correctly, there was a story about two guys who shot a man dead in his own home because he had a bounty on his head. but instead of getting a reward, the two men were arrested and tried for murder.
Sounds like they killed a dude who had a bounty for something non-violent. Lawmen probably wouldn't appreciate killing a dude who committed fraud or something.
Great stories once again, this was one of the most interesting video’s to date! 👍🏼
Those 5000$ bounty posters made me a happy cowboy.
The idea for the Bounty Hunter Newsletter is also really cool, making the bounty chases a bit more immersive in the RDO world. More or less like the treasure maps in story mode, that required you to actually discover the map and take notice of details and landmarks around you.
Sadly, R* appears to be historically accurate with the Bounty Hunter system, since it is actually almost impossible “to make a living” out of this role. Hahhaha 😂
Ha! Exactly, Kurunzi!
Couldn’t agree more! I had similar thoughts while playing of bounties that you track around the map like a detective, and that could even escape and leave clues on their trail. Never knew about the newsletter and other history you shared. Your ideas for those detective type bounties could be so immersive with the newsletter and other rich history behind them. Don’t know if rockstar watches TH-cam, but I really hope they see this video and others on your channel. Your Channel and “The Strange Man” Channel are the best by far.
@@bijouhills3820 Just checked out his channel. Great stuff!
Bringing in a bounty wagon with six bounties in it and end up getting 47 dollars in red dead online.
Jaywalkers!
Black jack Ketchums story is famous in Clayton New Mexico which is north of where I lived in Texas. My dad grew up there hearing about it and seeing pictures on the walls of restaurants
this video was put together really well, kept my attention the whole time. good job man.
This the type of teacher I wanted back in school, fucking hell. Not that I expect that we'd be discussing RDR2 related topics but just the fact that you dive into the subject and gather actual information and make it interesting.
The history subject is something I always fancied but my grades was "alright" cus' it was hard showing my interest when the teachers seemed to be about as interested as the people skipping classes.
Also, love your RDR2 content none the less. really nice way to find new inspiration within the game or new ideas for a character etc etc.
Awesome compliment, thank you, Tipzy!
Started getting your stuff in my recommended, very entertaining.
Historically accurate or not, I absolutely LOVE Bounty Hunting in Red Dead Online. It makes me feel like an absolute Badass.
so happy you got around to this video man. great job as always
Thanks Clyde!
R* with Legendary Bounties: 4%
R* When I sneeze in the wrong direction: 1500%
I can watch these videos 100 times and still have fun. I am watching while playing RDR2. Your channel deserves far more views and subs. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, partner! Mighty kind of you.
Great video, I love the effort you put into your videos!
You really make this kind of stuff interesting and keeps me hooked the entire time. I must see this channel grow even more
Thanks Snekans!
Thank you for all this wonderful information! I’m actually working on a manuscript that takes place in the 1800’s, and your videos are surprisingly helpful!
Very cool, glad to assist!
YESSSS keep making videos please I love watching these while playing so interesting keep rewatching over and over i honestly believe this channel is gonna grow so much more :)
Awesome compliment, thanks Ellis! Really appreciate it!
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Your videos are so informative. You’re gonna go big
Great, informative video as always. Also very entertaining. Keep it up :)
You should review the Historical Accuracy of the Moonshine expansion. I’m really curious to know if it has any real place in history.
nascar ;)
You may just get your wish, Sniper....
Man vs. History I don’t think that moonshiners were these classy southern gents that the game makes them seem. So I’d be interested in how a real moonshiner would be like.
@@driediced5427 You're correct. Most (at least according to the newspaper articles from the period) were poor folk living up in the hills. Many were 'southern', but weren't well-to-do gentleman by any stretch.
I’m a big fan of Red Dead Online and look forward to your comparison vids each week. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, Icebox!
Absolutely love your great historical sleuthing!
I’ve been really enjoying the videos, looking forward to more of them.
More to come!
Your vids deserve so much more credit I can already tell and I’ve only watched a view keep up the good work man!
Thank you, brother! Plenty more to watch, and more on the way.
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I hope your channel blows up man you deserve more views and subs
I appreciate that!
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Fantastic content! Any plans on making a video where you go into dept on how the detective agencys actually worked? The Pinkertons for example are often portrayed as these corrupt guns for hire who just roamed the west pistols drawn killing anyone they pleased with absolutely no rammifications what so ever. Always wondered if that reputation was justified or not.
Another great video as always!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Have you considered doing a video on how accurate the grey and braithwaite feud is for the period compared to more famous feuds like hatfields and mccoys or barbers and mizells
I typically try to avoid responding to comments that are this old but, if you're still interested in having this question answered and Man Vs History hasn't made a video about it. I'd highly recommend researching two things.
1) The Hatfield and Mcoy feud
and
2) Plantations in Louisiana and how they survived post civil war. I'm personally not too sure about the "Greys" but I know Braithwaite Manor is a Rockstarified interpretation of Oak Alley Plantation.
@@BeRad117 I mean the barber mizell feud started over a sheriff's laws
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This channel is on the rise, and I am happy to be apart of it! Keep it up!
Thanks Chase! Appreciate that!
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This was an excellent video!
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Such cool info, keep it up 😄
I'm seriously loving the angle you take on your videos. I love history and Red Dead so these are two scoops of vanilla and chocolate; perfect blend. Or pb and jelly if you prefer. Please keep up the good work!
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Just found out about your channel today, and I've got to say I totally thought you would have more subscribers considering the good quality videos you put up. Definitely clicking that bell icon to await any new vids!
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the only thing I would change is to boost the volume by about 50%
then your videos are perfect =)
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Yeahey you picked my proposition! 😄 I enjoyed this episode. Very interesting how lone bounty hunters were seen by the rest of population.
Yeah, a bit like today even. Don't get me wrong, I think Dog the Bounty Hunter was an interesting and well meaning guy, but there are similarities between how the public viewed his operation and how folks in the 1800s viewed lone bounty hunters.
You should do biography video on famous bounty hunters & famous outlaws that had bounty’s on them: tell us their story on where they were born/raised, how they got into that lifestyle and how they died: etc...
Excellent video, as per usual!!! 👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ManvsHistory always do!!
I’m actually trying to do a wild west table top game. One of the first mission I made was a bounty for a criminal and his two gang members totaling 700 dollars. His crimes horse theft, public indecency, unnatural acts with men and animals, and the murder of one man. Your videos have been super helpful.
Happy to hear that!
This stuff is really interesting!
I love it 👍
Great video as always. Please could you look at men's hairstyles and facial hair fashions of the Victorian age out west? Thanks for the channel man.
Hello I love your vids you’re great!! 👍😁
Thanks Maddy!
Loving these videos. Interesting historical information in a way that is not fake or overdone. Good VO and not a vanity project.
Also..
I grew up reading Tex Willer, Blueberry and Lucky Luke and some other western comics, so I am curious if you had any familiarity with those and will do any videos regarding their accuracy or lack of.
Thank you, tbirch! Regrettably I don't have any familiarity with those comics, but they sound right up my alley.
Nice dude. This is actually really interesting. Whish games would expect their players to be more intelligent but RDR2 is still AAA game so I guess they had to dumb down some of the things in order for everyone to enjoy it.
Can't wait for more content!
'Exploding wagons'. Historically accurate.
Don't know if your aware but,
'Spontaneously combusting horse and rider'.
Also, historically accurate.😂
Top notch channel👍
Thanks Mack!
The way payment works for legendary bounty's is time dependent.
Every 3 minutes you will get .08 gold and an increase of cash till you reach 15 minutes, then the gold will only go up by .04. The cap is 24 minutes that you can wait to turn in the bounty netting you .48 gold and I believe around $230
Minutes/ gold
3/.08
6/.16
9/.24
12/.32
15/.36
18/.40
21/.44
24/.48
I tend to turn them in at 12 minutes
Great info. Such a strange concept though, right (more time = more money)? I get that their intention is to slow us down, but it's a bit bizarre.
@@ManvsHistory I know this is old but yeah it is weird, and for normal bounties that have time limits if you turn them in at the last 30 seconds you get more of a payout too. This also works in other rockstar games like gta. In gta online I used to spend like a half hour sitting infront of the finish line in a helicopter race back before they had any ways to make money and then after the 30 min mark I'd beat it and make more money. Still to this day it occurs on both games for basically every job and I'm not sure why, it might just be because it detects like "oh hey you had trouble with this and spent valuable time on it so here's a better payout" but I don't know if R* is that generous
I’d like to have seen you review the reward on each bounty in story mode in relation to their crimes
Damn I missed it bro nice work.
so informative u gained a sub!
Thanks, Theo! Welcome aboard!
This is good content my guy
The Lawmen role you suggested is perfect and exactly what Red Dead Online needs!
Thanks, PrettyBoy!
Historical accuracy of falling through the world and paying for rags with pure gold bars
Great grandma told me stories of her mumsie going down to post the catalogue for Christmas time and heaving 4 bars of solid gold onto the counter, putting them in envelopes and sending them off, then just in time for christmas all 2 coats came, thank goodness we dont have to do that anymore my grandma and I agreed.
Keep up the good work
I actually saw one of Butch Cassidy’s hideouts when I was in Moab. Cool stuff.
Teddy! Not Hardin, YOU are the most dangerous man in the West. And you have a channel full of vids to prove it. I need to plug your channel on my next video. Long overdue, my man.
Man vs. History haha I mean that’d be cool and all but I haven’t really uploaded in a while. Also I’ve been on lately. Next time you’re on hit me up 🤙🏼
I stole a whole train and had a bounty of $50
It gave me anxiety when you stowed that bounty targets on your horse without looting them first, but aside from that great video, very interesting.
Love the historical content!
Thanks Sue! Keep fighting the good fight!
Lol the ending rock star adding content ITS BEEN OVER 6 MONTHS
I saw your video about Stede Bonnet (worst pirate in history) and it was one of my favorite stories I’ve ever heard. I tried showing it to a friend, but the video was gone. Any chance you plan on re-uploading it?
Hey Dakota, yes, I will be re-uploading it. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video as always :)
Thanks Ginga! Thanks for dropping in again!
#SaveRedDeadOnline ,Amen
Love your channel.
Great game, love the horse mechanics.
My grandfather's first and only moving violation was a ticket for horse & buggy racing down mainstreet of Laurel, Md on a "Sunday". On the way to church a neighbor pulled up alongside my grandparents and well, you know.
(Not sure if it was ok to race on Saturday;)
I love your videos by the way I watch your videos while doing bounty’s 😀
Happy to hear that, thank you, Charlie!
Love it bro
nice 'two for you and one for you' at the end
You're the first to mention it! Thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed it!
The first commissioned bounty was from an eavesdropping 3rd party listening in on 2 lawmen discussing a fleeing outlaw back when phones had switchboard operators.
That's very similar to how 'Glock', the firearms company got started. Gaston Glock overheard two Austrian officers talking about a new government contract that was in the works for a sidearm to replace their current model. He'd never made one before (I think his company made door hinges or something), but figured he could do it easily. Turns out he could.
3:51 I've read about Black Jack Ketchum on Wikipedia and I can only imagine the horror on everyone's faces after his head ripped off! Oh. My. God!
3:40 yes one of my favorite old west stories it's just so ridiculous. Also, if I remember correctly you have to have different diameters of rope as well as different lengths buuut I could be wrong
I love that poster you have of the bear on the cliff.
Thanks Red. It's an old Remington ad. They make reproduction tin ones that they sell on Amazon and eBay for great prices.
@@ManvsHistory
I'll have to check that out thanks.
I totally agree with your new role idea
Yeah, would love to make it happen!
Thank you for this amazing video. This channel fills the myth busters void in my life. 😏
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your stuff is so underrated
Thanks, Jackson! Appreciate that.
You have such a nice TH-cam background
Wow! I disnt know about Black Jack Ketchums arm thing man! Then my encounter with this random fella was nothing but an eastee egg, the guy you pick up on tje road whos badly bleeding, you take him to the doctor then he amputates his arm, way later on I saw this hanging taking place in saint denis and it was the same man, Arthurs mentioned that he brought him to the doctors once. Wow
ROCKSTAR!! listen to this man his idea's of a real bountyhunter. That really would make the role real fun to develop
0:48 "Can I turn myself in?"
Thank you for covering this 🤟
Sure thing, Travis!