You'd expect the Carwow team would prepare on the cars, and at least someone would let this know and tell to Mat. As much as I love this channel, cant help but say these minor mistakes makes this channel less of a professional "brand" to my eyes
@@iceman10129 well, there’s a whole reason alone why car manufactures are able to get low numbers donut media did a whole video on it. About how they position the tires and when do they start the actual timer
Riiiiight! Most of the launches could've been done with a little slippage at the start and then just hold 1st gear until the end. Times would've been way better
I'm 100% sure @carwow Mat Watson already knows this but... Willow Spring and the surrounding areas where he's testing these cars is Officially called the "High Desert". The elevation of this area is around 3000-4000ft. You can't compare these tests to those done at Sea Level... NA cars lose power at altitude.
@@FilipKik iirc every 1000ft of air density is 10% power loss in a naturally aspirated, with a few exceptions. When you get high enough, the parasitic losses for running all the vehicle accessories becomes the majority of the power the engine produces, its pretty funny.
the gen 2 and the gen 5 are just by far the best cars in the viper line, favourite car line and im genuinely gutted that it got discontinued, it would have been great to see where they wouldve taken it, rip the viper, you rollercoster of a production line
@@morganangel340 Nah. You're obviously not a car enthusiast. Real car people are not affected by "midlife crises" impulse buys. Unless mine started at 16 years old and has lasted over 40 years.
I've always been a Corvette guy, but what I've ALWAYS loved about the Viper is that Dodge NEVER had a p***y automatic transmission offered. Big V10, rear-drive, 3 pedals, and no bullshit!
I'm with you always been a Corvette guy. I had a girl with me one time in my brand new 92 Vette. when the viper was the first gen and we passed it and she looked at me and said damn I bet you wish you had that! I was pissed 🤬🤬 lol
Gen 2 has just the right amount of retro style & class to it. Very clean and unique looking car. Thanks to the melted cheese era (1990’s) where most sport car looked ever so unique.
I think the 90´s are called melted cheese era because car designs got more round, for example the BMW E30 from the 80´s was way more boxy than it´s successor the E36, mainly due to new possibilities in manufactoring. And i agree, the Gen 2 is my favorite by far as well! 👍
I fell in love with Vipers because of Grand Turismo on PS1. Became a bit obsessed to be honest. Realized my dream of owning one a few years ago, got myself a red 2000 ACR. Such a fun car.
It looked like they ALL mighta done 60 in first? To be honest they are all VERY similar, all have terrible power considering the huge capacity. Plus they all seem very truck like.
@@sjukbasketball8498 Of course he should have but let's be honest, would if made a huge Difference like so many Comments here claim?People seem outraged and even claim he wants American Cars to look bad. I just doubt compared to the Gen 4 and 5 going to 60 in 1st Gear it would have made a noticable Difference. Even the 4th and 5th Gen surprisingly didn't shave off much doing so. So i wonder why the Gen 1, 2 and 3 would have made a Big Difference
@@chartreux1532 we ain’t talking a big difference brother, maybe 0.1-0.2 but I think it’s more to do with the fact the gearbox is manufactured for that and he wasn’t doing it
@@sjukbasketball8498 I definitely agree with that. I was just surprised how angry some People in the Comments (see Top Comment with the most Upvotes) and all the Responses to it claiming not only it would have made a big Difference but also that Matt is trying to make American Cars look bad/doing this on Purpose which is ridiculous. Happens in every Comment Section of Matt reviewing American Cars
I love how matt is trying his hardest to talk smack on the viper because he can't successfully launch them. It makes him look worse for it, but at least he's in character trying his best and idk, something about that is kinda adorable to watch.
Some Viper models actually launch better in 2nd gear on unprepped surfaces due to wheel spin and as others mentioned, 1st gear is usually pretty tall on Vipers with some being able to hit 60 in first, most of the gear changes seemed to happen just before 60MPH.
You are correct the 0 to 60 mph should have been done in first gear only because tops being in first gear at redline is 62 mph. That’s why all these times were slow.
my 22 CT5-V Blackwing is a 10 speed and i've gotten a 3.29s 0-60 by going in 2nd in manual mode then switching back to auto mode super quickly. this was at Bradenton drag strip with prep free drag days. just a good clean asphalt surface
@@Visionary- bah. Looks too alien with those vertical headlights and its blacked out grill. Like an R35 GTR. I mean to each his own. It just looks nothing like the car I fell in love with back in 02. The fascia is totally different and the taillights look like something made for current year cars, in a bad way, that is.
Gotta agree that the 2nd gen has the most iconic look. I used to hate the 2nd gen but the looks grew on me. I also like the looks of the 5th gen because it feels like a spiritual successor to the 2nd gen. For performance I think the 4th and 5th gen are my favorites. Both of them are basically track cars disguised as road cars. My looks tier list would be: Gen 2 > Gen 5 > Gen 4 > Gen 3 > Gen 1
Seat lowering kits are available and popular - though it is pretty crazy that an American car made for Americans in America can't really comfortably fit anyone over 5'5 or 70kg lol.
Yeah. My normal shifts in daily driving are probably 600-900ms. Because I ain’t racing and it’s nicer to the clutch. Same for taking off, i tend to use the minimum amount of slip possible, specially when I’m by my lonesome and don’t have anyone else to bother with the lazy shifts. I’ve only used launch control and sidestepped the clutch like 10 times of the 60,000 miles I have in the car. I expect to get near 100k miles out of the clutch. Even when I’m at Road America or Autobahn, I completely release the clutch between shifts since it’s only HDPE and not truly racing. It’s really only at the drag strip that I’ll sidestep and flat foot shift the car. I’ve done a 13.1 @ 106 stock. So close to 12s.
Yeah this is the first video ive watched of this guy. Ive seen many comments from this one video saying similar things lolol like does this guy not know shit about cars?
This was the best clip I've seen in years on this channel. Do it with other brands and models. The list is endless. If Matt had the idea of 1st gear with the 2nd and 3rd gen on launches which he thought of on 4th gen he might have been surprised at the outcome.
I drove one of these built as a S-GT class trans am car for one lap on Laguna Seca on a track day. I had my old mk2 VW GTI cup car in the paddock and the viper driver mentioned he'd had a base model mk1 rabbit as a kid... and asked if he Could take my car around a couple times. I jokingly said sure, if you'll let me have a go in yours (i was TOTALLY joking... i mean two of his TIRES cost more than my car when i bought it, lol.) And then tossed him my key. He went out and put in 4 laps, and came back grinning like a kid. "Its like a gocart! I gotta get one of these! You just stay in it and just railsthat around. I bearly had to lift, let alone brake" And then he says. Mine don't have a key. Go get buckled in and i'll run you through the start sequence. So, I hopped in he started it up and i took her round. It was the most raw, brutal exerience I've ever experienced in a car. That thing SCARED me. and I barely got into it. I mean this was a prepped GT car - it was worth more than my frigging house - so i wasn't gonna hot dog it.. but i couldnt have even if i had the balls and the bankroll to do so. I can drive. I mean im nothing special but i can drive. And that thing was way beyond my skill level to drive at anything close to its full potential. The thing WANTS to kill you. I've never driven a street legal viper, but if its even half of what that GT car was... WTF?!
So cool, I have never driven Viper, 1st Gen no driver aids. Last year of production 2017 race car driver had TH-cam video took 2017 viper GTR around Laguna Seca race track. Professional race car driver was SO IMPRESSED WITH VIPER FROM GEN 1 TO 2017 VIPER, HANDING, CAR TEND TO SNAP AROUND ON ACCELERATION ON TURNS, THAT WAS BIG DEAL AND WET PAVEMENT DRIVING.
I agree, 2nd generation viper looks very nice and most iconic of the 5. And also a Grand Turismo gamer, the 2nd gen viper is my favorite pick. Though, the most menacing out of the 5 gens, the 5th gen acr in black! 😎👍
I was 9 years old when I first saw the original Dodge Viper RT/10 in red in a showroom at Rothrock Dodge in Allentown, PA and I was absolutely hooked. Ever since then I have been dying to own one at some point. I want the OG Viper. Granted, they've gotten better with time, but I remember reading Road and Track magazine, Car & Driver, and many others which displayed the concepts of the Viper RT/10. I remember playing the original Need for Speed with interior views of the OG Viper and how much I have always loved it. That 8.0L V-10 is just a beast. I love it almost as much as I love the 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000S Quattrovalvole or even the original Diablo. I'm old school and damn proud of it.
He did redline it in the 4th Gen and even the Racecar Driver Owner did it and the Time is still not any better, so i doubt that it would lose a whole Second
@@maverickphantom005 Not entirely true. The actual reason was the safety concerns held by the Federal Regulations that these iconic cars couldn't adhere to.
Had a gen1 Viper more than 20 years ago when I was in my mid 20s. Drove it 20k miles in 3 years and totally loved it. It was an absolute blast to drive, took it on racetracks several times, drove it in rain etc. without any crashes. Sold it due to family plans, new owner's brother crashed it a few days later (I adviced him to NEVER let anyone else behind the steering wheel). If you are not respectful to that monster it will kick you of the road within a blink of an eye.
That is truly tragic. Unfortunately, many "car guys" were driving imports with small engines back then. Unless someone grew up with big block V8s there was a high likely hood that they'd mash the pedal to the floor and crash. Not the car's fault in the slightest. Last time I checked, people don't blame dirt bikes when the rider wrecks. They blame the rider lol.
The jump between gen 1 and gen 2 is amazing! I love the look of the 2nd gen!! The 5th gen is of course best when it comes to performance, truly an American supercar!
Every Viper was a supercar. The first gen broke production car top speed records when it came out. The second gen dominated lemans so badly it was outlawed. The 4th gen ACR held the Nürburgring production car lap record in 2011. But sure, only the 5th gen was a supercar LOL.
The only role Lamborghini had on the V10 motor was to show the engineers how to "cast" the engine. The block itself is engineered much like an old school small block Chrysler/Dodge v8 engine. All the engineering of the engine is ALL Chrysler/Dodge, only the casting related water jackets were Lamborghini's doing. These V10s are the most robust V10s ever produced. A 2v per cylinder over-head-valve design is simplistic, easy to maintain, and will produce gobs more torque than any flat-plane crank motor design. I think it is also good to note that these engines are one of the most reliable stroked out motors available. I love how this video allows us to witness the Viper slowly refining throughout the years.
Would love to see Matt drive every gen corvette like this. Might be difficult to get ahold of some of them, but 5 of the gens are pretty plentiful in decent condition.
That would be wild.... So many different generations to go through. My least favorite somehow is the C8 Corvette, maybe its the mid engine or the new look in general, all i know is its not a Corvette anymore.
Gen-1; my grandma gave me a poster of the prototype they were touring the plants with in Detroit. She said workers came out to watch it do 0-60 or 0-100. I love that my GRANDMOTHER thought this car was cool and got me an official picture. The headlights had square-like shapes on the inside of the assembly before the went with those 2 round ones.
Gotta agree - the 2nd gen was the best looking Viper they ever made. In this video I think it sounded the best too, but it's hard to know what sort of aftermarket exhausts each of these might have so not really a fair comparison.
When you look up the racing history of the Viper in racing you just simply go speechless. The amount of records and times it did during it’s time that still hold up today is mind blowing. It shouldn’t have keep up with the European powerhouses but not only it did but won several times. Nothing about this car makes any sense, but that’s exactly what makes it special. It feels like Dodge could have gone even further but ended it too soon
I think Dodge was trolling other manufacturers with nurburgring times too. They set a record with the ACR, then some other manufacturer would beat it and Dodge would dust off the ACR again and one up it. They did this several times - beating "better" supercars. Was hilarious.
@@ToeCutter69 I'd like to see you get into different cars all day long and launch them in front of their owners without smoking the tires/clutch or stalling it. If he couldn't drive then I doubt manufacturers would hand him keys to their million dollar cars.
Gen 2 is my favourite. Been to the USA once, and i saw one drive down a car lined street; all of the alarms went off due the virbation of the V10. Incredible.
You are simply constantly pushing limits, amazing! You are full filling my every car dream. Love it, please keep it up till the end of time. Never retire Matt, please!
It’s trajectory and momentum is in a state of acceleration. Shifting or not shifting at 0.3mph short of 60 isn’t going to change your time significantly.
@@ibsn87 yeah that's a good point. I also thought there could've been some sort of latency for the GPS meter, but who knows. But I still think he could've pushed it a bit more.
@@ibsn87this is completely wrong. If you have the revs to hit 60 it’s way better to leave it in gear for this test. Watch the speed when he shifts. The car slows down. Doesn’t help that Matt is shifting these really slow😂
Last comment, thank you for living a kid's dream ❤ I was sitting in the automotive department in Walmart I looked up I saw the picture of the Dodge Viper and wanted it at that moment. I think I was eight. There's no such thing as a favorite, it's like Pokemon I want them all
Great video The Gen 1 is my absolute favorite My dream car when I was a kid - was watching the Viper TV show with the red Gen 1 that could transform into the bulletproof silver defender My dreams came true when I got myself a red Gen 1 in 2017 Absolutely love it
I was surprised to see each owner's reaction, when asked to let the keys go for some hard launches. There seemed to be, not only no inhibition, but encouragement. If you did such a comparison with any other make, I would be curious if you would get the same reaction.
I own a 09 P71 n absolutely hate letting anyone drive it that isn't on the insurance policy n even then still refuse unless absolutely necessary..lol i guess these guys have money vs me who only has one car n in huge debt modifying it to go "fast"..lol
The 1st gen was awesome when it first came out because there was nothing else like it and it looked great! However, after the introduction of the 2nd gen GTS coupe in 1996, I no longer liked the look of the 1st gen too much. At the end of the day, the 5th gen is definitely my favorite. It looks the best, it's way more refined, and there's more room in the interior.
I agree the 2nd gen just has the OG vib. I think my second pick would be the 4th gen for looks and sound. The 5th gen is out of reach for most folks due to it being the last run and a super car. But even then most of the Vipers have held up pretty good except for the 1st gen. 1st gen looks like a toad and really screams 80's styling from Dodge.
I was thinking the first gear of nearly all Vipers will go up to more than 60 mph?! So why shifting up when you measure 0-60 mph? Matt just recognizes it from Mark IV on ;)
So many commentors are saying the same thing haha. Glad to know there's actually quite a few people that know this about the Gen 3. Speaking of, the Gen 3 also had ABS actually (from the factory). Maybe the owner disabled it, but Gen 3s do actually have ABS.
Gotta love the way he compares the sound of the 1st gen Viper V10 to cars that weren't even thought of at the time. I'm 6 mins in and that's as much as I can tolerate. Oh yeah, it is a breathed on truck engine ya muppet, course it sounds reminiscent of one. 😂😂
I'm wondering if all of these cars are able to hit 60 mph i first gear? 🤔 In that case the 0-60 could be reduced a bit by running it all the way to the rev limiter.
Yes, they all can do 60Mph in 1st gear. Matt should have done a little research first. At least he finally figured it out. But should have retested all vipers again, doing 60Mph in 1st gear.
16:10 to 17:30 - This is speech is why Matt is a top tier car journalist. The flow and consistent delivery of perfect descriptors here were delightful to hear.
God I love the sounds that Vipers make. Also, that Borg-Warner T56 in the Gen 1 and Gen 2 is such a wonderful thing. I have one (though, of course, not "Viper spec") in a '96 Camaro Z28 and it's just so purposeful.
@@wulver810 that’s weird, maybe was there an automatic version of the viper for the quick shifts or was there a pro power shifting or something like that, im genuinely confused
The first one was that, I loved how it looked then. It’s iconic! But I now do love the curves of the second gen. And then again, the fifth is a worthy competition.
The Gen II is probably the best Viper, but I personally love the truck feel, that everyone else hates, from the Gen I, it just feels primal, and raw, a genuine FML machine! Btw, by time you shift into 2nd in *any* Viper, YOU ARE AT 60!
Love Vipers! I worked at the Dodge dealer when the first one came out and it was just amazing! Dodge really did a great job over the years updating it but still keep it hardcore! Great video!
These cars are literally known for having a pretty long 1st gear the fact he actually shifted on one run at 58.7 in the gen 3 had me mad af and dying at the same time 😭🤣
Great video, fun idea. Second gen is my favorite too. Saw them at the drag strip back in the day running low 11s to high 10s. Second Gens sound f'ing fantastic with a Corsa exhaust too.😉
Gen 4 was my fav all round and this was a lot of fun! I'm sure great for open US roads, but wouldn't work so well on my local country roads here in the UK - but never made for that :P
Enjoyed watching this layout of all generation Vipers..! Such an American 🇺🇸 icon for a quarter century! Finally bought a 3rd Gen recently and LOVE every moment of being behind the wheel..! Great video!!
What a great video! I love the Viper and seeing the different generations next to each other. It was so funny see them refer to the Viper from Gran Turismo, that was memorable to me too. It's cool to see my generation buying these cars now
Carwow, well done! The sound check sounded better than usual. You could also try an SM57 mic for the high volume sounds. It is very directional too so you'll isolate the sound a bit better
I had a Gen 2 Viper, definitely got all the looks but lives up to its reputation! Almost lost it once with my wife on a backroad and after that never felt comfortable pushing it. Do want to own a Gen 5 though in the collection one say soon. Overall, very interesting seeing the 0 to 60 times. One of my favorite Car Wow videos!
@@constructionbootgazer a brand new (in 2019) white Camaro ZL1 1LE 6 speed. Bought it off the showroom floor, some content about it on my channel search early videos if interested.
The 2003 Viper does 60mph in first before the limiter but you were changing gear at 58mph and that’s why the time was so far off the claimed 0-60.
I was thinking the same thing. I remember something about this from old Motortrend mags. I was literally browsing the comments to confirm.
I was also thinking this
Yep same with the gen 2 i believe
You'd expect the Carwow team would prepare on the cars, and at least someone would let this know and tell to Mat. As much as I love this channel, cant help but say these minor mistakes makes this channel less of a professional "brand" to my eyes
He literally changed at 59 mph on one of the runs 🤣🤣
Matt kept shifting at like 55-59 mph instead of just running out to 60. That’s why the times were all way slower than advertised
But he didn’t shift in the third GEN and it’s still only went 4.4
Thats not the reason
he should’ve ran his rpms up in 1-2 not went to third
@@iceman10129 well, there’s a whole reason alone why car manufactures are able to get low numbers donut media did a whole video on it. About how they position the tires and when do they start the actual timer
This video really pissed me off especially when he was like where do i find a second from
MAYBE YOUD FIND A SECOND IF YOU DIDNT TRY TO FIND SECOND!!!!
Thanks for having us out! Was an absolute blast 🙏🏼
Thanks for sharing your car with us. Very nice indeed. Respect.
Touretto, I need a 10 second car
Love your story sir. Nice to live out your dreams.
Loved your story, wish everyone can get their childhood dream car
Wasn’t even you it was me
Gen 2 has always been my favorite. It was so sleek.
Just got mine yesterday. Has been my dream car for years and now I finally have it. ❤ Such a beast man!🔥
Very much agree. 2nd gen forever. 🙌💙
@@twofacetoucani own a c6 z06 i bought brand new but id trade it for a gen 2 GT
Same! Gen2 got me into Vipers.
I like Gen 2,4 the best maybe because the sound and also the slick look of the 4th
Hilarious Matt - changes the gear at 59mph and guesses where did the second go.
Was about to say the same thing.
Riiiiight! Most of the launches could've been done with a little slippage at the start and then just hold 1st gear until the end. Times would've been way better
Thought the exact same thing, even if it redlines for 0.2s
I'm 100% sure @carwow Mat Watson already knows this but... Willow Spring and the surrounding areas where he's testing these cars is Officially called the "High Desert". The elevation of this area is around 3000-4000ft. You can't compare these tests to those done at Sea Level... NA cars lose power at altitude.
@@FilipKik iirc every 1000ft of air density is 10% power loss in a naturally aspirated, with a few exceptions. When you get high enough, the parasitic losses for running all the vehicle accessories becomes the majority of the power the engine produces, its pretty funny.
Viper by name, Viper by nature. These cars were legendary for biting owners when pushed really hard.
Viper GTS 1998 on Test Drive 5 also looked good.
Especially owners that did not respect the Viper.
Biting owners that did stupid shit while pushing them really hard
The Viper never suffered fools well. But in the hands of a skilled, experienced driver, they were amazing.
Not true at all. I come out of corners sliding. That car is very easy to handle after you get to know it.
2:26 brings changing blinker fluid to a whole new level :)
Underrated comment!
Saw the comment before the video got there and was expecting something incredibly stupid... But nope, that was interesting.
Where can I buy this headlight fluid
that it was made by BMW is amazing :D
the gen 2 and the gen 5 are just by far the best cars in the viper line, favourite car line and im genuinely gutted that it got discontinued, it would have been great to see where they wouldve taken it, rip the viper, you rollercoster of a production line
I think the exact same. I imagine they will almost definitely bring it back one day so there’s that to look forward to
Boy oh boy, that 2nd gen looks insane on The outside. Aged perfectly ❤
Agree.
2nd gen is my fav as well
I concur 😊
And sounded better that the rest
Thanks for having me out! Was a blast hanging with the Carwow team, and i stand behind Gen 4 ACR being the best of the bunch!
Awesome car pal. Well done.
I love how the Vipers get younger, the owners get older 😂
In this video, maybe. Probably the first owners of the older cars were older and traded them up?
@@TucsonDude or sold them and bought normal cars once the midlife crisis ended.
hey man im 33 😅
@@KevinBurkeRacing😂
@@morganangel340 Nah. You're obviously not a car enthusiast. Real car people are not affected by "midlife crises" impulse buys. Unless mine started at 16 years old and has lasted over 40 years.
I've always been a Corvette guy, but what I've ALWAYS loved about the Viper is that Dodge NEVER had a p***y automatic transmission offered. Big V10, rear-drive, 3 pedals, and no bullshit!
I'm with you always been a Corvette guy. I had a girl with me one time in my brand new 92 Vette. when the viper was the first gen and we passed it and she looked at me and said damn I bet you wish you had that! I was pissed 🤬🤬 lol
@@choward874 😂😂😂 She would've been walking!
@@stanleywilliams1605 well she was super hot and I hadn't hit it yet LOL
It had no "bullshit" because the Americans don't know how to engineer cars, which is why they all have laughably huge capacities relative to their bhp
Gen 2 has just the right amount of retro style & class to it. Very clean and unique looking car. Thanks to the melted cheese era (1990’s) where most sport car looked ever so unique.
The "melted cheese" era? lol
I think the 90´s are called melted cheese era because car designs got more round, for example the BMW E30 from the 80´s was way more boxy than it´s successor the E36,
mainly due to new possibilities in manufactoring. And i agree, the Gen 2 is my favorite by far as well! 👍
I agree, the gen 2 GTS is my favorite Viper of them all.
Yea I like 2 or 4 the best.
Dark blue with white stripes was just bonkers back in the days.
I fell in love with Vipers because of Grand Turismo on PS1. Became a bit obsessed to be honest. Realized my dream of owning one a few years ago, got myself a red 2000 ACR. Such a fun car.
I envy you bro. Make sure to hang on to that beast because it will only go up in value.
Congrats brotha 👏
Don't total it like an old man did with his Gen 1 vs a tin can Honda on a red light..lol
Test drive 6
A boy an his dreams then we be come men an make those boy dreams come true salute 🫡 to u sir🇺🇸
Mat, the 3rd gen can do 0-60 in first gear, the one second loss is due to the gear change at 58/59 mph.
0,3s at best
It looked like they ALL mighta done 60 in first? To be honest they are all VERY similar, all have terrible power considering the huge capacity. Plus they all seem very truck like.
@@davekennedy6315they’re just very raw they have the power but it’s all about the driver
@@GERntleMANNot at all true. You can shave off more than 0.3s without a shift.
They ALL can do 60 (62) in 1st gear, it's a very Viper thing with the long gear ratios.
Hell yeah! The Gen 2 Viper GTS was my childhood memory too on the PlayStation and just looks absolutely stunning!
Mine too. I was lucky enough to come into some money and actually bought a used one. Dummy me sold it.
You’d hit a faster time 0-60 if you went to redline, gear ratio would definitely allow it!
Did you even watch the whole Video? That's exactly what he does later and even the Race Car Driver Owner did it, and still the Time isn't good
@@chartreux1532 yes I did, he didn’t do it in the gen 1,2 or 3 though did he. That’s my point
@@sjukbasketball8498
Of course he should have but let's be honest, would if made a huge Difference like so many Comments here claim?People seem outraged and even claim he wants American Cars to look bad.
I just doubt compared to the Gen 4 and 5 going to 60 in 1st Gear it would have made a noticable Difference.
Even the 4th and 5th Gen surprisingly didn't shave off much doing so. So i wonder why the Gen 1, 2 and 3 would have made a Big Difference
@@chartreux1532 we ain’t talking a big difference brother, maybe 0.1-0.2 but I think it’s more to do with the fact the gearbox is manufactured for that and he wasn’t doing it
@@sjukbasketball8498
I definitely agree with that. I was just surprised how angry some People in the Comments (see Top Comment with the most Upvotes) and all the Responses to it claiming not only it would have made a big Difference but also that Matt is trying to make American Cars look bad/doing this on Purpose which is ridiculous. Happens in every Comment Section of Matt reviewing American Cars
Matt is the master than changing gears at 59mph
I know! It can go 60mph in first gear.
@@KhyoteJinkens was thinking that myself, he could have probably made up close to the second he was missing
@@jordanboyd7026nahhh wouldn't change much..he did it in the 4th and 5th gen and it still over 4 second
@@muhammadalifsyafiq5317 he had more traction issues in those models
And your explanation for 4th and 5th gen are...?
Gen IV owner is such a cool guy. He was just happy to be there 😂
I love how matt is trying his hardest to talk smack on the viper because he can't successfully launch them. It makes him look worse for it, but at least he's in character trying his best and idk, something about that is kinda adorable to watch.
Getting the owners on camera was a nice touch.
Some Viper models actually launch better in 2nd gear on unprepped surfaces due to wheel spin and as others mentioned, 1st gear is usually pretty tall on Vipers with some being able to hit 60 in first, most of the gear changes seemed to happen just before 60MPH.
You are correct the 0 to 60 mph should have been done in first gear only because tops being in first gear at redline is 62 mph. That’s why all these times were slow.
my 22 CT5-V Blackwing is a 10 speed and i've gotten a 3.29s 0-60 by going in 2nd in manual mode then switching back to auto mode super quickly. this was at Bradenton drag strip with prep free drag days. just a good clean asphalt surface
calling bullshit on that @@saltyfloridaman7163
Gen 2 still manages to look good after all these years
The only ugly one there is Gen 5
@@sarmatiancougar7556 Are you kidding me, looks so good.
@@sarmatiancougar7556nuts
@@sarmatiancougar7556you tripping it’s literally the best looking
@@Visionary- bah. Looks too alien with those vertical headlights and its blacked out grill. Like an R35 GTR. I mean to each his own. It just looks nothing like the car I fell in love with back in 02. The fascia is totally different and the taillights look like something made for current year cars, in a bad way, that is.
Gen2.
Nice Lines .
Sleek and Classy with the Bite.
My Favorite.
Gen5 closed out The Viper with Brutality.
Those are the Two ❤
Gotta agree that the 2nd gen has the most iconic look. I used to hate the 2nd gen but the looks grew on me. I also like the looks of the 5th gen because it feels like a spiritual successor to the 2nd gen.
For performance I think the 4th and 5th gen are my favorites. Both of them are basically track cars disguised as road cars.
My looks tier list would be: Gen 2 > Gen 5 > Gen 4 > Gen 3 > Gen 1
I would swap gen 3&1. Not a fan of the 3
Without gen 1 the rest don’t exist
@@philrob156 yeah of course, I’m just talking about looks and performance.
I'm confused... you realize the 1st and 2nd gens are very similar looking right? Why would you rank them opposite? 🤔😂
@@Boatfisherz1 the only thing they got similar is the front end. But that is also true for al gens except the last gen.
Thanks for a great comparison. Always wanted a viper then I sat in one and my eye line was at the top of the windshield so that wouldn’t work.
Yooo Aaron!! Love the vids! You inspired me to continue TH-cam and I deeply appreciate it!
Seat lowering kits are available and popular - though it is pretty crazy that an American car made for Americans in America can't really comfortably fit anyone over 5'5 or 70kg lol.
Yeah. My normal shifts in daily driving are probably 600-900ms. Because I ain’t racing and it’s nicer to the clutch. Same for taking off, i tend to use the minimum amount of slip possible, specially when I’m by my lonesome and don’t have anyone else to bother with the lazy shifts.
I’ve only used launch control and sidestepped the clutch like 10 times of the 60,000 miles I have in the car. I expect to get near 100k miles out of the clutch.
Even when I’m at Road America or Autobahn, I completely release the clutch between shifts since it’s only HDPE and not truly racing. It’s really only at the drag strip that I’ll sidestep and flat foot shift the car. I’ve done a 13.1 @ 106 stock. So close to 12s.
How many seat lowering kits would I need to install? 😁 I'm 6'4".
Ya the pedal box in all 3 i have driven were too small for me to consider owning if i had Money to burn on one. Fun but designed for a small dude.
What a great bunch of guys willing to rock up and let you launch their cars.
Truth! They all impressed me
It was the first time letting someone else take my car out haha! Was a great time
Had a guy in my local group with an 03 that he put a nasty cam and a 150 shot on. He was superman to us for about 6 months
I can't believe Mat Watson actually made it happen, thank you.
Launching a viper gen1 is dangerous
Not really
@@bro89174nOt ReAlLy
Yeah ask Sherman Klump 😂
It is dangerous for the average driver
everysingle viper is dangerous when you launch 😂
I reckon if you just revved 1st gear out on that 3rd gen viper instead you’d be 0.5-0.75 seconds quicker to 60
yea i thought of that too
Same with the first and second gen. They all did over 60 mph in first gear.
@@Full_Deflectionthe 2nd gen Viper has the highest top speed among all 6 Vipers. 328.8kph.
@@purwantiallan5089 okay? I don’t think that’s true and even if it were, what does it have to do with the conversation about 0-60 times?
so you say that it will launch quicker than the later generations then? 😂
"When you think of V10's", proceeds to name 3 cars with the same engine and ignores the Carrera GT and LFA. Lol Matt.
Right!?
Yeah this is the first video ive watched of this guy. Ive seen many comments from this one video saying similar things lolol like does this guy not know shit about cars?
This was the best clip I've seen in years on this channel. Do it with other brands and models. The list is endless. If Matt had the idea of 1st gear with the 2nd and 3rd gen on launches which he thought of on 4th gen he might have been surprised at the outcome.
He already did this multiple times with other models & brands.
@@caleidoo Please don't comment rubbish like that ever again.
@@af7119 Okay robot.
@@caleidooNever say "Okay" again. Say "OK" instead.
@@af7119 Okay robot.
I drove one of these built as a S-GT class trans am car for one lap on Laguna Seca on a track day.
I had my old mk2 VW GTI cup car in the paddock and the viper driver mentioned he'd had a base model mk1 rabbit as a kid... and asked if he Could take my car around a couple times.
I jokingly said sure, if you'll let me have a go in yours (i was TOTALLY joking... i mean two of his TIRES cost more than my car when i bought it, lol.) And then tossed him my key.
He went out and put in 4 laps, and came back grinning like a kid. "Its like a gocart! I gotta get one of these! You just stay in it and just railsthat around. I bearly had to lift, let alone brake"
And then he says. Mine don't have a key. Go get buckled in and i'll run you through the start sequence.
So, I hopped in he started it up and i took her round.
It was the most raw, brutal exerience I've ever experienced in a car. That thing SCARED me. and I barely got into it.
I mean this was a prepped GT car - it was worth more than my frigging house - so i wasn't gonna hot dog it.. but i couldnt have even if i had the balls and the bankroll to do so.
I can drive. I mean im nothing special but i can drive. And that thing was way beyond my skill level to drive at anything close to its full potential.
The thing WANTS to kill you. I've never driven a street legal viper, but if its even half of what that GT car was... WTF?!
So cool, I have never driven Viper, 1st Gen no driver aids.
Last year of production 2017 race car driver had TH-cam video took 2017 viper GTR around Laguna Seca race track. Professional race car driver was SO IMPRESSED WITH VIPER FROM GEN 1 TO 2017 VIPER, HANDING, CAR TEND TO SNAP AROUND ON ACCELERATION ON TURNS, THAT WAS BIG DEAL AND WET PAVEMENT DRIVING.
I agree, 2nd generation viper looks very nice and most iconic of the 5. And also a Grand Turismo gamer, the 2nd gen viper is my favorite pick. Though, the most menacing out of the 5 gens, the 5th gen acr in black! 😎👍
I was 9 years old when I first saw the original Dodge Viper RT/10 in red in a showroom at Rothrock Dodge in Allentown, PA and I was absolutely hooked. Ever since then I have been dying to own one at some point. I want the OG Viper. Granted, they've gotten better with time, but I remember reading Road and Track magazine, Car & Driver, and many others which displayed the concepts of the Viper RT/10. I remember playing the original Need for Speed with interior views of the OG Viper and how much I have always loved it. That 8.0L V-10 is just a beast. I love it almost as much as I love the 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000S Quattrovalvole or even the original Diablo. I'm old school and damn proud of it.
The 3rd gen viper can go to 60 in 1st gear, in one of them you went 59 in 1st gear then shifted, I think this is where the lost second is
And also had 210mph top speed.
@@purwantiallan5089 No it doesnt, it had 190 mph top speed
@@purwantiallan5089doesn’t
I think they all do 60 in 1st gear
He did redline it in the 4th Gen and even the Racecar Driver Owner did it and the Time is still not any better, so i doubt that it would lose a whole Second
The Gen 4 dude Kevin is awesome! What a fun dude.
thanks man!
@@KevinBurkeRacing Your Viper is so nice, and I also liked how you were wearing a Honda hat. 😄
Mat's bogging it off the line and owner spun wheels...why can't either of you launch this thing?!?
That 2nd gen viper is absolutely stunning.
Gen 4 was peak design. What did they do with the headlights of the latest one?! It looks like a Toyota GR86 and a Corvette C7 from the front 🤦♂️
Finally. Freaking Vipers! Love these cars. A shame they're not making these anymore.
Agree. Viper 1996 from Gran Turismo 1998 and Test Drive 5 are still awesome.
They aren't making them because people didn't buy them. I remember seeing brand new 2017's in the showrooms in 2019.
@@maverickphantom005I guess it got LFA’d…
@@maverickphantom005 Not entirely true. The actual reason was the safety concerns held by the Federal Regulations that these iconic cars couldn't adhere to.
@jazzdub4958 it's absolutely true. They didn't sell. Period.
Had a gen1 Viper more than 20 years ago when I was in my mid 20s. Drove it 20k miles in 3 years and totally loved it. It was an absolute blast to drive, took it on racetracks several times, drove it in rain etc. without any crashes. Sold it due to family plans, new owner's brother crashed it a few days later (I adviced him to NEVER let anyone else behind the steering wheel). If you are not respectful to that monster it will kick you of the road within a blink of an eye.
That is truly tragic. Unfortunately, many "car guys" were driving imports with small engines back then. Unless someone grew up with big block V8s there was a high likely hood that they'd mash the pedal to the floor and crash. Not the car's fault in the slightest. Last time I checked, people don't blame dirt bikes when the rider wrecks. They blame the rider lol.
The jump between gen 1 and gen 2 is amazing! I love the look of the 2nd gen!!
The 5th gen is of course best when it comes to performance, truly an American supercar!
Every Viper was a supercar. The first gen broke production car top speed records when it came out. The second gen dominated lemans so badly it was outlawed. The 4th gen ACR held the Nürburgring production car lap record in 2011. But sure, only the 5th gen was a supercar LOL.
The only role Lamborghini had on the V10 motor was to show the engineers how to "cast" the engine. The block itself is engineered much like an old school small block Chrysler/Dodge v8 engine. All the engineering of the engine is ALL Chrysler/Dodge, only the casting related water jackets were Lamborghini's doing. These V10s are the most robust V10s ever produced. A 2v per cylinder over-head-valve design is simplistic, easy to maintain, and will produce gobs more torque than any flat-plane crank motor design. I think it is also good to note that these engines are one of the most reliable stroked out motors available. I love how this video allows us to witness the Viper slowly refining throughout the years.
Would love to see Matt drive every gen corvette like this. Might be difficult to get ahold of some of them, but 5 of the gens are pretty plentiful in decent condition.
I wouldnt think it would be that hard. They made so many of them
Yes. Need to see this guy launch a C5Z!
He should try and arrange for all 8 generations for a race like this.
That would be wild.... So many different generations to go through. My least favorite somehow is the C8 Corvette, maybe its the mid engine or the new look in general, all i know is its not a Corvette anymore.
Gen-1; my grandma gave me a poster of the prototype they were touring the plants with in Detroit. She said workers came out to watch it do 0-60 or 0-100. I love that my GRANDMOTHER thought this car was cool and got me an official picture. The headlights had square-like shapes on the inside of the assembly before the went with those 2 round ones.
Absolutely love the way the second dude handled himself. Laid out all the bullet-points that to him, make the mk2 his favourite generation.
yeah i mean that’s what he was supposed to do
Gotta agree - the 2nd gen was the best looking Viper they ever made. In this video I think it sounded the best too, but it's hard to know what sort of aftermarket exhausts each of these might have so not really a fair comparison.
When you look up the racing history of the Viper in racing you just simply go speechless. The amount of records and times it did during it’s time that still hold up today is mind blowing. It shouldn’t have keep up with the European powerhouses but not only it did but won several times. Nothing about this car makes any sense, but that’s exactly what makes it special. It feels like Dodge could have gone even further but ended it too soon
+ Zakkspeed Viper
I think Dodge was trolling other manufacturers with nurburgring times too. They set a record with the ACR, then some other manufacturer would beat it and Dodge would dust off the ACR again and one up it. They did this several times - beating "better" supercars. Was hilarious.
@@w0nd3r6 Team Oreca/Viper is the best USA-France partnership ever. yes better than the other
Acr Viper is still the fastest manual car in Nurburgring
Gen 2 is by far the prettiest, something about it, the shot at 10:40 looks like something out of an action movie, it's absolutely stunning.
i get it, looked like a shot from 007..lol
Lmao I'd say that the 4th generation is the prettiest. It just has something that I can't explain 😂
Prettiest, but not the most aggressive.
It's the color combo
This was actually very good exhibition of Matt's driving. He makes a lot of jokes at his own expense but he's a real wheelman.
Agree.
😂
@@ToeCutter69 I'd like to see you get into different cars all day long and launch them in front of their owners without smoking the tires/clutch or stalling it. If he couldn't drive then I doubt manufacturers would hand him keys to their million dollar cars.
Thank you, Matt, for the proper entertainment value here
Gen 2 is my favourite. Been to the USA once, and i saw one drive down a car lined street; all of the alarms went off due the virbation of the V10. Incredible.
The ones with the ACR package looked great!
Yep. The Viper ACR 2008 from Gran Turismo 5 that still looked legendary.
@@purwantiallan5089also incredibly fast, ingame as in real life
You are simply constantly pushing limits, amazing! You are full filling my every car dream. Love it, please keep it up till the end of time. Never retire Matt, please!
The Viper RT/10 1996 also looked cool.
He didnt push any limits in these cars. His times are slower because he kept bogging and shifting too early into 2nd gear.
@jody024 right? "Pushing limits" lmao some people write the corniest shit
I'm enjoying watching Matt understand and express the emotional connection to these types of cars.
I like the deep engine sounds more than the noisy high-pitched ones. Just sounds more powerful and raw!
Looked like he could've pushed it a tiny bit more and reached 60 MPH in 1st gear 15:15. He shifted at 59.7 MPH
It’s trajectory and momentum is in a state of acceleration. Shifting or not shifting at 0.3mph short of 60 isn’t going to change your time significantly.
@@ibsn87 yeah that's a good point. I also thought there could've been some sort of latency for the GPS meter, but who knows. But I still think he could've pushed it a bit more.
@@ibsn87this is completely wrong. If you have the revs to hit 60 it’s way better to leave it in gear for this test. Watch the speed when he shifts. The car slows down. Doesn’t help that Matt is shifting these really slow😂
It was a very windy day with a lot going on, I think he didn’t hear me when I told him you can hit 60 in first haha
@@ravocean american car brands fake the figures
The way these Vipers would sound with the NA V10 and rev up to the redline was glorious. Still one of my favourite American Sports cars to this day
Last comment, thank you for living a kid's dream ❤ I was sitting in the automotive department in Walmart I looked up I saw the picture of the Dodge Viper and wanted it at that moment. I think I was eight.
There's no such thing as a favorite, it's like Pokemon I want them all
Great video
The Gen 1 is my absolute favorite
My dream car when I was a kid - was watching the Viper TV show with the red Gen 1 that could transform into the bulletproof silver defender
My dreams came true when I got myself a red Gen 1 in 2017
Absolutely love it
The vipers aged like fine wine
Nah gen 1 aged like warm cottege cheese. 3 spoke wheels never look good.
I was surprised to see each owner's reaction, when asked to let the keys go for some hard launches. There seemed to be, not only no inhibition, but encouragement. If you did such a comparison with any other make, I would be curious if you would get the same reaction.
I own a 09 P71 n absolutely hate letting anyone drive it that isn't on the insurance policy n even then still refuse unless absolutely necessary..lol i guess these guys have money vs me who only has one car n in huge debt modifying it to go "fast"..lol
Matt's car wow channel obviously has insurances.. @@P71ScrewHead
I didn't see a single "hard launch"?
The gen 1 just looks so much cooler than the rest
The 1st gen was awesome when it first came out because there was nothing else like it and it looked great! However, after the introduction of the 2nd gen GTS coupe in 1996, I no longer liked the look of the 1st gen too much. At the end of the day, the 5th gen is definitely my favorite. It looks the best, it's way more refined, and there's more room in the interior.
And of course, a good driver behind the wheel
Density altitude plays a huge factor in a car’s performance being that high above see level these times are about spot on
They all sound unbeleivably aggressive. Amazing!
I agree the 2nd gen just has the OG vib. I think my second pick would be the 4th gen for looks and sound. The 5th gen is out of reach for most folks due to it being the last run and a super car. But even then most of the Vipers have held up pretty good except for the 1st gen. 1st gen looks like a toad and really screams 80's styling from Dodge.
I was thinking the first gear of nearly all Vipers will go up to more than 60 mph?! So why shifting up when you measure 0-60 mph? Matt just recognizes it from Mark IV on ;)
Exactly! All Vipers are geared for 60 in 1st
Stay in FIRST GEAR 👀 for the 0 - 60 wanker 🤓 just REDLINE IT 🤪
They must have worked hard to get those shut-lines so big on the gen 1. Well done to the shut-line massiveness department at Chrysler.
Yep. Chrysler done an amazing job like Honda.
@@purwantiallan5089 no, Chrysler doesnt do a good job, the comment is sarcastic
That's not from factory like that.
That hood is clearly out of alignment. Was probably off a few times since it was built.
@@QBDLettuce It happens pretty fast after they leave the lot my dad and his friend both had one and both had the same issue almost the same day. 😅
I am so triggered by the fact that he shifted so close before 60mph in the next gear (3rd gen)😭😂
Don’t be you will survive :)
So many commentors are saying the same thing haha. Glad to know there's actually quite a few people that know this about the Gen 3. Speaking of, the Gen 3 also had ABS actually (from the factory). Maybe the owner disabled it, but Gen 3s do actually have ABS.
he probably being careful with the car since the owner just loan it to him to review it
Should've had the owners launch it. They know their cars and can get the most out of it. Honestly feel like Mat c*cked up the shifts on a few of these
He makes it all about him!
Gotta love the way he compares the sound of the 1st gen Viper V10 to cars that weren't even thought of at the time. I'm 6 mins in and that's as much as I can tolerate. Oh yeah, it is a breathed on truck engine ya muppet, course it sounds reminiscent of one. 😂😂
@@Murph_82 it's all about views. Them guys prob can't talk to camera
@@Murph_82 yeah. Mat IS carwow. His personality makes the channel
@@BollocksToThatthe cameraman was the true star.
Jason didn't seem like he wanted you driving his dream car😂😂
Nah its because Matt went camp on Jason and the chap went speechless and lost his train of thought 😂
I'm wondering if all of these cars are able to hit 60 mph i first gear? 🤔 In that case the 0-60 could be reduced a bit by running it all the way to the rev limiter.
Yes, they all can do 60Mph in 1st gear. Matt should have done a little research first. At least he finally figured it out. But should have retested all vipers again, doing 60Mph in 1st gear.
They just can, all of them. V10 blocks can handle it.
Gen 2 is my favorite!!! Blue with white stripes!!! 😍🤤🤩
16:10 to 17:30 - This is speech is why Matt is a top tier car journalist.
The flow and consistent delivery of perfect descriptors here were delightful to hear.
God I love the sounds that Vipers make.
Also, that Borg-Warner T56 in the Gen 1 and Gen 2 is such a wonderful thing. I have one (though, of course, not "Viper spec") in a '96 Camaro Z28 and it's just so purposeful.
I love the torque curve solution they used with the floating bearings on the drive shaft to work like overhead valves but with no fancy computer
Thanks!
Most of the vipers can go to 60 in 1st gear, the times are bad because you switched to 2nd at like 58mph on certain vipers
No!
@@Porsche1969Yes! How do you think the third gen gets 3.8s?
Vipers powerband does not allow quick speeds if you stay in it to redline. He should have shifted WAY earlier.
@@wulver810 that’s weird, maybe was there an automatic version of the viper for the quick shifts or was there a pro power shifting or something like that, im genuinely confused
@@filgiupo4853probably a whole prep surface like a drag strip
The first one was that, I loved how it looked then. It’s iconic! But I now do love the curves of the second gen. And then again, the fifth is a worthy competition.
So that blinker fluid joke thing, isn't actually a joke?! Who knew!
The Gen II is probably the best Viper, but I personally love the truck feel, that everyone else hates, from the Gen I, it just feels primal, and raw, a genuine FML machine! Btw, by time you shift into 2nd in *any* Viper, YOU ARE AT 60!
Love Vipers! I worked at the Dodge dealer when the first one came out and it was just amazing! Dodge really did a great job over the years updating it but still keep it hardcore! Great video!
These cars are literally known for having a pretty long 1st gear the fact he actually shifted on one run at 58.7 in the gen 3 had me mad af and dying at the same time 😭🤣
Great video, fun idea. Second gen is my favorite too. Saw them at the drag strip back in the day running low 11s to high 10s. Second Gens sound f'ing fantastic with a Corsa exhaust too.😉
To me the most iconic is the 3rd Gen, racing in the dirt at the beginning of Tokyo Drift, but my favorite has to be Gen 5
I saw Vipers & had to watch, one of my all time favorites!🔥❤️
Viper SRT10 kinda reminded me a lot to NFSMW 2005 (JV).
@@purwantiallan5089 WOW, you just made me remember a memory, yes!!!!😭
The gen 2 last years had ABS I believe. To me they are the most desirable. Also gen 3 and above hit 60 in first gear I believe.
Gen 4 was my fav all round and this was a lot of fun!
I'm sure great for open US roads, but wouldn't work so well on my local country roads here in the UK - but never made for that :P
Enjoyed watching this layout of all generation Vipers..! Such an American 🇺🇸 icon for a quarter century! Finally bought a 3rd Gen recently and LOVE every moment of being behind the wheel..! Great video!!
One of the best vehicles ever made. Wish I’ll own one, one day.
The green Dodge Viper you get after defeating blacklist 4 Joe Vega is still my favourite from NFS Most wanted 🔥
My fav car in mw 2005
Gen 2 all day. Had a GTS back in the day, I remember shifting from 3rd to 4th could be a bit tricky but what a machine
Viper GTS is my favorite.
Its design is just timeless and iconic.
I like also the SRT-10 ACR, what an awesome machine!
What a great video! I love the Viper and seeing the different generations next to each other. It was so funny see them refer to the Viper from Gran Turismo, that was memorable to me too. It's cool to see my generation buying these cars now
Love this video. Please do more of these. It's the first ENTIRE carwow video i've watched in a loong time.
Carwow, well done! The sound check sounded better than usual. You could also try an SM57 mic for the high volume sounds. It is very directional too so you'll isolate the sound a bit better
Love these long form videos, great watch
I had a Gen 2 Viper, definitely got all the looks but lives up to its reputation! Almost lost it once with my wife on a backroad and after that never felt comfortable pushing it. Do want to own a Gen 5 though in the collection one say soon. Overall, very interesting seeing the 0 to 60 times. One of my favorite Car Wow videos!
What did you end up replacing it with?
@@constructionbootgazer a brand new (in 2019) white Camaro ZL1 1LE 6 speed. Bought it off the showroom floor, some content about it on my channel search early videos if interested.