Refinishing Ford Model A spoked wheels and swapping new(ish) tires on Gandalf the Gray Coupe
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- How to refinish spoked Ford Model A wheels.... CHEAT!! Take them to Les Schwab! Just exchange some paper rectangles with pictures of deceased Presidents on them, and PRESTO! Wheels look brand new! I am not being paid, just very happy with the service (and the price!) and sharing with you.
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Ditch the silicon and use hot glue, it's easier clean up, to remove or replace with a couple of drops of Alcohol. It's also transparent.
Hey, that's a great idea! Thank you!
Mind blowing how you got those rims down to bare metal by hand!! And perfectly! It is so great how Gandolf and Roadie are getting all sorted out little by little right in front of our eyes. 👏💪 Thank you!
We cheated.... Metal blasted them. Shhhhhh!
@@ModelA I did notice that the metal looked like it was bead blasted; I worked for a time in a machine shop and that’s how parts looked when I used the glass bead machine 🤣. But….I didn’t doubt you for one second…🤣😂
HahAaa!! If you not cheatin', you're not tryin'!
When I first saw you with no shoes on your feet, I thought SAFETY FIRST! Then you explained why. Way to go.
Hahaa! Well... I'm about half indigenous Indian (what some people call "American Indian") and I think the habit of going without shoes and shirt runs in my blood. At least I'm sure to put on a shirt before recording video!!
If the lug nut kick back doesn't get you, the jack squeal will! Good show!
Great humor! And model T in action too!
Glad you enjoyed it William! Nice to have you along, my brother!
@@ModelA I hope to see you at the Gilmore! Cheers!
Planning to be there. Booked flights and rental, just need to book the hotel.
WOW! What an outstanding transformation! You are a great team!!!
Thank you so much!
This is such a good series! You make the work seem attainable for a novice mechanic! I imagine removing a windshield will not be easy, Pumpkintown Primitives had a good series about it but I would be too intimidated to try.
"Baby's got new shoes and socks!"
Well, kind of. Gandolph looks great. What a project boost to know that Les Schwab can send wheels out for powder coating, then mount tires.
At the 7:15 minute mark I thought I heard you say," Now we're gonna have some wheel fun." Been waiting for a tire swap vid. Glad to see and hear of options. Thanks for posting Paul.
You and Model T will need to get some ice cream in Gandolph once that temps drops to at least 100.
Thank you!! We were talking about taking Gandalf for a ride today. It's never been more than a few hundred feet from the shop yet.
I really don't like the noise of a Dream Cruise which will be going on until this evening and end at 9 p.m. tonight today is August 19th 2023 but if ever I was to be at 1 and bn1 I'd love to be riding or driving every stored or original unrestored Model A Ford. Thank you for all your fine videos Paul shin. Your friend Dwight. From Allen Park Michigan near Detroit God bless you Paul love that you're a radio man a broadcast station engineer pretty cool man I love it. Do next time I write God bless you.
Thanks, Dwight!! God bless
Great video Paul! Also thank you for giving me the information on the odelfi light. i have purcgased 5 of them, one for a friend, 3 for family members and one for me. Excellent light. Thanks again,
al Lugo.
Glad to help, Alberto!! I love those lights.
Was hoping to see how you insert the tire iron without pinching the tube but you didn’t show it, so maybe it’s not an issue on those.
Also shocked how clean you got those wheels by hand.
It's not an issue. The spoons are smooth and round so they don't poke the tube. I was able to reuse all but one. We cheated with a metal blaster because of time.
Hey Paul, I have been watching your model A videos for A couple of years now, .
And so far I have not seen a video of you guys doing any cleaning or polishing up on any old or original paint .
So I'm not sure what you use
But my grandpa who was once upon a time a model A owner
Told me to use. No.7. Polish.
And he was absolutely right, it works amazing,
I myself like to follow up the polishing with some turtle wax spray wax , don't forget to wear a good quality mask when polishing or waxing.
Thank you for your videos,
Tim from Wisconsin.
I lost count of the number of tips in this one - thank you! And you are so right - they look amazing! Enjoyed watching and learning with a cold RC ~ Chuck
RC Cola- The only beverage that hasn't gone "woke"!! Tastes so much better to me. Good work man!!
Excellent job, young man! That's a great deal on those wheels, and why I moved from California to Oregon when I retired, lower costs, beautiful outdoors, friendly people, and it seems to me more DIYers here who can get the job done right. My parents were farmers and ranchers before moving to California, my dad told me if you don't do it yourself it doesn't get done if you live out in the countryside. He made us kids learn how to DIY everything and do it right. One time with my uncle they built an oil drill pipe fence around my uncle's 2000-acre ranch, and it was all welded together, nothing was going to get through that fence. WWII vets were very tough men, he flew 52 missions in B17s, they lost 5000 men, and he lost one bother who was with Gen. Patton on D-Day. Take care, Mike.
Those were REAL men!! I fear, if we were fighting WW2 today, we would lose.
WOW....What a difference those new wheels made🤩.......Thanks my friend Paul 👍
Old Shoe🇺🇸
Hey Shoe! b Whatzzapp my brother!
some good content and tips. as always
Thank you Stan!
Good tips. Les Schwab has done wheels for my Oregon club members - can't beat that deal.
Yep.
Those wheels look great, Paul! Great to see Gandalf again! Best of luck in the election!
Thank you Matt!
Keep after it Paul, I always enjoy your videos. I'm not in a position to own a model A anytime soon, but that doesn't mean I can't want one.
Thanks, will do!
Those wheels are really nice🤙🏽❤️
Glad you like them!
For sure the new tires snazzied up old Gandolf. Sure would enjoy seeing the rest of the work on it. Thanks Paul, I hope your weekend is going great and you have a wonderful Sunday!
Thanks, you too Dan!
Looks great, wish my coupe looked as good.
Thanks It is coming along
Paul: I enjoy your videos and I also plan to vote for you. In fact you my be the only ne I vote for. Lastly I am truly surprised that you do not have a hub cap tool. I purchased one of these in 2006 and the hub cap goes on ker-thunk and they stay on. Thanks David Adair
Thanks!! You have better tools than me!
Looks great! Wish we had a Les Schwab near us. I really want to do this with the wheels on my ‘26 T!
That would be cool!
Gandolf is looking SWEET! Wish I had a Gandolf! for some reason 1930 is my favorite year, but they are ALL cool! Now you can get him out on the road and have a little fun with him!!
1930 is my favorite Model A year also!! I like the grill better than the 31.
What a difference that made! Gandalf the great!
Yes!
Another fun and informative video. So satisfying to see the evolution of the vehicle. Good luck with the election!
Thank you Ken!
I love her looks
That is one sweeeeeeeet car.
Paul you need campaign paraphernalia Campaign buttons, bumper stickers and yard signs.
Joking aside Paul you come up with the most imaginative names for your model-A's
Jay McCord keeps telling me that. He says nobody will know me if I don't start sending out buttons and stickers and posters, etc. I told Jay I want to be the first candidate to use nothing but TH-cam as a way to campaign. He shook his head and was like "I think you're throwing it away". Hahaa!!!
Reaction: I was surprised at how seemingly lightweight the tire and rim seemed to be (when you picked it up) compared to tires and rims on current automobiles!! Yikes! That sanding was certainly a labor of love! The "refurbed" tires and rims look really sharp!! 8:55 Star-wrench! How many young people would even know what that was, these days?!
Hey Dick! They weigh almost a much as modern tires on aluminum rims. I lift weights, so I can toss them around easier than most. It's amazing how much difference just the wheels and tires made. I was debating wether or not to do this video, and to release it. Nobody wants to see my naked feet working, and nobody really cares about our sanding and paint removal skills. But in the end, the difference or transformation was worth it, so here it is.
@@ModelA You made it look easy....!!
@@Dick_Shinn My Indian heritage.... Strong Like Bull should be my indigenous name!!
"Grease is the word"? I thought the bird was the word.
Funny enough, I'm the opposite of a hippy but one of my favorite musicians was one.
You also reminded me of a meme. It was a Model T pickup, i believe, loaded down with logs. It was overloaded. The caption said, "Before OSHA we had OSHIT".
Frankie Valli sang that in the title track for the movie "Grease". It just popped in my head.
Flivver Channel put Model A wheels on his Model T, and it looks really good.
I love this car! The new wheels definitely make a huge difference. Which wheels do you perfer, 19" or 21" and why? Always eagerly awaiting your next video. Thanks!
I have no preference. Whichever wheel is correct for the car is what I prefer.
Lookin' great Paul. Good luck with your election.. God bless
Thank you! God bless
Thanks for the Les Schwab tip. That’s incredibly cheap. I’ll have to check if they do regular non spoked steelies.
They do!
I wish I had seen this about two weeks ago...I had to change a tube on a 600/16. I could have used my feet to break the bead-it looks like it would have been much easier!
Way way easier!! That's also how I get the tires back on.
Paul, your thoughts on balance beads for balancing. A real pain to install, but once their, combined with my radial tires - my what a difference!
I've never tried them. No idea.
By the way, you got my vote.
Thank you!!
Love that off road lookin tire, wondering what kind it is. Fun video, maybe it will cool down their soon.
You want it?
Maybe I can pick it up if we go to Turlock this winter. I live in L.A.@@ModelA
@@madman-pv9qd Fine with me. But remind me because I will forget
Great job. Do you ever use the cup washers on the lug nuts?
No. I avoid those.
Paull Gandalf is looking great !
how are gandalf and Roadie getting along You know That cars if this age get a personality!
Those two cars have never been in the same place at the same time. No idea if they will get along. Gandalf seems kinda moody. Roadie is like a dog with marbles in it head.
Thumb on the "right" side really only applies when hand starting. Been there, got the T-shirt, with a 1932 diesel engine.
Great video Paul!! You mentioned replacing the windshield..will you do that yourself or have it done?? I would imagine it's been the done that for you... 👍
I'm doing it.
I thought you would. Can't wait to see that video..just ordered a windshield from Mike's for my '29 coupe.. Thanks for all you do in your "spare"time for the Model A folks!
Thanks Michael!!
Dear Paul I have a crank in my wheel of my model A, So it doesn't roll straight, Do you have a solution for that other than buying new ones I'd love to hear it. Greetings Fred
I wish there was some place near Michigan/Ohio/Indiana that could do my wheels like that at any price!
How about this place? radcoatings.com/powder-coated-rims/
TU PS!@@ModelA
Just a token of appreciation.
Thank YOU!!!!
I need to find a Les Schwab closer to San Diego. I have at least 7 wheels I need to get powder coated Vermillion.
There's one in Temecula
Gandolf looks 1,000,000% better. Great job.
When you say you use silicone to keep the caps from rattling, is that silicone caulk?
Just regular silicone
Paul, I noticed that you do not use the little tapered lug bolt washers, is there any specific reason?
Yes. Because they suck
After a few minutes of sand-blasting...3:26 🤣 No offense towards Tina's valiant efforts but...well, you know!
I onow, right??!!
I can answer the comment about watching the thumb, when loosening the wheel - it's because, those diesel driven model A's can start them selves, if you hand crank them by the wheel.
;-)
hahhaaa!!
Paul what is the wheel nut torque on 31 model a wheel. The internet says 100 lbs sounds high to me.
That is tad high, but not by mich. I probably end up around 85-90
Those wheels would be awesome triple chromed. Haven't seen that done for quite a while. If you drive them a lot, balance those tires. Unbalanced tires will cause problems in a short while. Not only premature wear on the tire but other parts of your car will be worn just from a slight little jiggle of an unbalanced tire. I've had it happen. Not a fan of black wheels on any car or truck but to each.
Model A's don't go very fast, and most of the weight is in the wheel, so pretty different from modern tires. I'd agree with you on modern wheels. This car color combo came from the factory with black wheels, so that's why we went with black. looks pretty sweet on old cars. And cop cars. Hahaa!
What is the story on the white Honda Civic in the background?
It's a great running/driving car (even the A/C works) that got hit in the rear. It was headed for the crusher, so I saved it from the crusher, quite literally. Drove it home. I got a new trunk lid, bumper, and the other parts to put it back together. There it sits. Want it?
Greece is a word.. You have to sing that song With your Olivia, a.k.a. Model T
She thinks it's stupid when I blurt out a song that pops into my head.
@@ModelA I do the same thing.
It's a sign of a happy person.
Reason used and crank and that position is because the sweat and cigar ashes goes under your arm
Excellent!
Hey Paul, Thanks for another great Video! My new '29 Roadster needs tires also. I've seen on-line prices from $130 to $330. What would be your brand of choice, and what do you think aboat radials on a Model A? I'll wait to hear your responce before I make the investment. Take Care, Rick...
Hey Rick, I really like the Goodyear ones made by Coker. Radials? No thanks.
Why don't you like the radials?
Expensive and too squishy and vague feeling on a Model A
Does this include Les schwabe anywhere or just in CA?
I know for sure California, Nevada, and Oregon. The local store manager says available nation wide
Bow chicka wow wow shorts. You really need a big fluffy 80’s mustache if you’re going to wear those. Great job on the wheels though!!
Those shorts are swim trunks- comfy and allow free movement. I don't care what they look like, not a vain person.
@@ModelA I’d like a 3rd opinion from Derek Bieri on those…. and the term you’re looking for is “free shrimpin”. It’s all in good fun. I love your videos and watch everyone of them !
@@ModelA I’d like a 3rd opinion from Derek Bieri on those…. and the term you’re looking for is “free shrimpin”. It’s all in good fun. I love your videos and watch everyone of them !
I've stayed at a hotel with Derek. He'd probably assume I was on my way to or from the pool, or that I was throwing buckets of water on some wheels I was working on in 107 degree heat. It was crazy hot.
Zero chance you guys hand sanded that one wheel to metal so clean!!
That IS a good deal at 50 a wheel to have them powder coated!
Correct. Did you miss the joke? My humor is very dry, admittedly!
@ModelA Paul, you're right, I did.  So did they give them back before powdercoating?
I only wanted 5 powder coated. I got that one back bare so I could prime and paint it for another car that already has pained wheels.
@@ModelA Ahhh, it all makes sense now. Thanks Paul, keep up the great work!
how much would that car be worth? I am a muscle car guy but love this thing
It's worth more than a hot rod
I want one all stock @@ModelA
@@inspirationalphotography2656 Good choice! Check Hemmings
Web forms are not always right, even though they think they are.
That's a fact
Hi Paul . When I saw that wheel , I thought, Paul is not telling the whole truth here!Haha. No need to balance ?Or did Schwab do it?I know they probably weren't from the factory.
Nope. Their balancer won't do Model A wheels accurately. I don't balance them unless the car has overdrive
Thank you for replying!!I thought Tina wouldn't have any fingers left until I saw that you blasted them!@@ModelA
We cheated
I wonder what is your personal opinion on whitewall tyres. 🤔
I've had them. Never again.
@@ModelA do you find them historically inaccurate, or are they just impractical because of the dirt? Perhaps their construction quality is in fact worse than in normal tyres (I have no idea). Thank you for your answer, Paul. I love your videos. Greetings from Spain
@@omarcurrossimon7927 Kind of both. Mostly, I just don't like how they look.
@@ModelA yeah, nor do I. Thank you Paul
Years ago our 10 year son painted a tango of red roses on the sidewall of the Model A in rustoleum enamel. Sure got some interesting responses.
have you sold gandalf?
I'm still deciding
Did you really sand those wheels completely down to bare metal by hand? And it looked like the 2 of you were working in direct sunlight? My hat's off to you. I'm not built for the heat. They look great!
Or did I miss the joke in there? 😂
There was a joke in there, and the joke is on us. We had them sand blasted!! Working in the sun isn't so bad when you don't have a bunch of clothes on. Assuming there's a breeze.
Paul, why should I vote for you? What do you have to offer over the other candidates?
I've been President and held other offices in my local club, held offices and currently President of NCRG, and been very successful at organizing Model A events, and am currently bringing more new people into the Model A hobby than all the national organizations combined. My blood type is "Model A". But I can be doing more for the hobby and Model A people.
Paul, you HAVE MY VOTE!!!!😊 Keep on motoring. We need more people like you! 😊
Thank you!
Great video. I just did this to my car with it's 45 year old tires. I found the cleanest way to apply the silicone was to the back of the hub caps after I had installed them. No rattles and no silicone to clean up.
Great tip!
Please do a segment on replacing the windshield. I had a glass shop do mine and it rattles.
If you want me to, I will just for you!
Thanks, Paul. I predict that you'll be the top vote getter in the Mafca election. You'll be even busier.@@ModelA
I'd I hear you right? You can rims blasted, powder coated, tires and tubes mounted by Les Schwab for 50 bucks a piece???
Yes!
I voted for you today.
Thank you!!
Oh, I am disappointed!
Les Schwab sadly is a West coast chain only. Sniff, sniff.
What??!
Always grease your nuts.😊
Always!
Dang, No Les Schwab in My part of the country. Wheels look great, My ballot arrived yesterday. It will be in the mail on Monday, With a vote for that Paul Shinn guy, Whoever he is...
Haha! Thank you!
Longer shorts!
No thanks. Might as well just wear pants.
He still has great legs 🦵, and if you got em, flaunt em! LOL 😂.
Outstanding! Simple as that alkazoom! Is there a way to straighten the wheels! I would imagine you toe in is as only as good as your wheels. We are off in some cases 5/16" .WHAT SHOULD I DO TO REMIDY MY SITUATION. Thx Mr, Shinn .
Straightening wheels that are just barely off is easy with wood blocks, hammer, and heat. If they are off by more than 1/16th, I take them to the wheel shop and let them do it with the hydraulics. Way better results!