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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- tera blast is an unhealthy move, however why is this the case? watch to find out!
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because of the nature of this video, please be respectful toward dissenting opinion! i'm happy to clarify any points in this video if there's any confusion.
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Tera blast is actually healthy because I can kill the enemy
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That'd be unhealthy silly, I haven't seen a healthy dead guy before
You tell em tiger
@@bigpoggers6507 well a dead guy can't be unhealthy sense they have no health that's why they died
Tera blast is healthy because Porygon2 slaps with it
But Tera Blast is the only rock type move I can have on Rillaboom, the funny ROCK and roll monke
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I still prefer tera mechanics over dynamax anyday
Half convinced ausma is the physical manifestation of my hyperfixations that started making good content
Good news, the odds of it making it into Gen 10 is really low
it's porygover
If Tera Blast returns without Tera then I could see a few ways it could be handled
-Mostly untouched and becomes a normal type attack that can be special or physical
-Pokemon needs to hold an item to change the move’s type
-A new item or NPC is added to change it’s type
-It can only be the same type as the Pokemon (with an item or method that can change if the move matches the Pokemon’s primary or secondary type)
Also if any of the above still makes the move unhealthy then the move can be turned into a 2-turn attacking move for balance
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Its Gyaraover
i basically only have contact with VGC this generation, and tera blast being basically non existance in the Official Format TM, i had no idea how unhealthy to the singles metagame it was
really cool video
the only real users of tera blast in vgc are gyarados and lando t, they often run tera flying tera blast because gamefreak has a hobby of making flying type pokemon with no flying stab
"Everything above your neck's gonna be a fine red mist!"
Iron Moth, probably
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"Tera blast" is unhealthy as it is in the dairy food group and the over use of it could cause adverse health conditions.
from my understanding of what you're saying, it seems like most of the problems that people have with tera pretty much just revolves around tera blast
there's still being able to suddenly answer a defensive check at the press of a button, but i think people have largely gotten used to that play pattern and can acquire knowledge on what teras are good on which pokemon.
i'm still a firm believer that i feel like Game Freak should've initially went the item route and turn tera's ability into something enabled by a held item a la a mega stone/z-crystal, and i think in those circumstances that tera blast could be a sort of "helping glue together your build-a-pokemon" sort of thought. but as it stands, where tera can just be dropped on a dime via dynamax, i can understand why you push for it so hard.
Nah the biggest problem is Tera enabling setup mons. Even with hidden power volc was fine for years in the weaker gens before now. Because volc had to work for its setup. On a fundamental level Tera is broken with setup moves and it’s the reason why the meta is pretty much dominated by hyper offense. You Tera click a setup move and win that’s how mafia works. Volc was essentially using its same old sets just using Tera blast as hidden power but it was ban worthy this gen because of Tera enabling setup mons so much. Tera disproportionately benefits hyper offense and stall is pretty much straight up unviable this gen especially when combined with the recovery move nerf.
But this is exactly the same thing that was always happening for Hidden Power, just a little bit stronger of a move, people have clubg to certain competetive mainstays for a long time no matter how good, bad, healthy or unhealthy they are and no matter the format
@@baxterbruce9827 i never said i liked hidden power either
@@ausma9350 My point isn't "But you didn't use the same breath to point out Hidden Power was doing this for years"
My point is "People will cling to anything they like in this game, no matter how good, bad, healthy or unhealthy it is, and it's stupid, especially when certain metagames get completely warped by single moves or Pokemon existing. And this has been going back as far as Competitive has been a thing."
Hidden Power is just the perfect example because of similarities to the meta warping properties of Tera/Blast and itself being one of the oldest examples of this
Hidden Power is *significantly* weaker and a far healthier coverage tool as a result. After STAB, which you will always have after Terastallizing, Tera Blast is always 120 power while Hidden Power is stuck at 60, and you'll basically never see STAB Hidden Power.
Honestly were it up to me, we'd being it back in Gen 10, but have it capable of being Physical as well as Special. Then we could have Tera Type carry over (even if we don't still have the Tera mechanic) and use it to determine your Hidden Power Type instead of IVs.
@@FatherOfGray Honestly, I'd cut both, having access to ANY type coverage move you could ever want, even a fairly weak move, IS a game warping trait
Hidden power does almost half the damage and isnt close to as usable on physical attacks which yea terablast has a high commitment cost but then again it still has some extra utilities like tera changing your typing
OU-fessionals have standarts.
I think terestalizing itself is unhealthy. Changing types and flipping counterplay on offensive mons in one turn is absurd. Kingambit is an especially bad case since it turns many games into a guessing nightmare.
In the past gens, when you got off guard by hax, you could usually recover from that. The combination of getting off guard by a tera into hax is way more punishing and potentially game ending. Some offensive mons are barely checked in this tier and the fact that battle dont take long at all makes it even worse
I wont deny that tera can be skillrevolving and in some games it looks like a fun and balanced mechanic. It helps making comebacks with well calculated plays afterall. However I think Pokemon doesnt need a comeback mechanic as strong as this (and Gambit) and it should focus more on progression.
I think tera does more harm than good overall
I'd argue Volcarona is more of an abuser than gambit but i see the logic
Your editing is really good. Was surprised at the amount of subs you have. Well now you have at least one more. Fun video, and I also hate tera in general. Can't wait for the likely return of megas
Yeah as someone who has come around to tera as of recent, tera blast should go
Also nice ending hehe
An undertale and fnaf reference within the forst minute? Very good…. Subscribed
I love Tera Blast. It gives every Pokémon good coverage, and is very useful for filling otherwise empty move slots. Honestly one of the moves of all time.
really great video, I could see you going far as you naturally improve your editing. where do you get the 3D models of the pokemon from?
@@NicholsMediaPress shinyfinders! and thank you
Tera Blast is unhealthy. However...why is this the case?
Damn I thought you were just a small youtuber talkin, but nah you got the skillsets to back it up. Can’t wait to see ya blow up
tera blast is the new hidden power
Yooo can't believe I caught the next big poketuber at 3-digit subs!
I think something that demonstrates these issues really well is randbats. In randbats, Tera Blast is perfectly healthy and honestly pretty meh much of the time - it can help certain sweepers overcome types that wall them (often Steel), but it overall feels balanced and manageable. It adds nuance and strategy rather than removing it. And that's because you always know exactly what kind of Tera Blast an opposing mon has! Tera Blast basically turns into another coverage move that you have to account for like Dazzling Gleam on Ghold, rather than a wild card that's down to matchup luck. And it helps rescue a lot of low-tier pokemon that would otherwise really struggle to be the sweepers they want to be, like Lilligant or Florges. In randbats Tera Blast is a further investment on an offensive tera - if you get it then that's one less crucial move you have, but also an opportunity to get extra value out of your tera if you're willing to spend it and can position it right.
@@ImplodingChicken that’s a really interesting thing to hear, i think it defo makes sense since you can’t build and tech specific meta targets, but it still gives you a reliable ace in the hole that can actually succeed at propelling weaker mons into stardom. just a shame its dynamic is so skewed in builder-based formats
also thank you!!!! i don’t know if ill pop off anywhere near that hard but we’ll see lol
@@ausma9350 Bro the quality is already better than some mid-to-large size poketubers, plus you've got the skills and know-how to back it up. You keep making stuff like this and you'll be huge in no time. If you really wanna accelerate stuff see if you can sneak in a collab or two with some established players.
They should’ve added hidden power back in instead that’d fix it
Tera Blast won't survive start of generation 10 anyway, so maybe they will bring HP back
splatoon 1 inkopolis news bgm no way
i figured splatoon ost made sense here since tera's whole thing is changing colors/types
@@ausma9350Wait you're so right there
252+ ATK Tera Fighting Carbon Roller
I think its good becuz it gives the slightlest buff to porygon z, which makes it automatically the borderline one
I think a better solution would be removing tera blast from the movepool of most pokemon it breaks. I think having tera blast on a lot of the lower tier mons helps make them much more fun to use. Awesome video!
I feel like that makes a complex ban, which goes against Smogon tiering policy.
@@gratedshtickcorrect; this wouldn’t be feasible i’m afraid. but i defo see where you’re coming from
@@ausma9350 undertsandable!! I think in my head i meant, theoretically it'd just be better if the games themselves didnt give the move to every pokemon!
Damn, guess I was wrong about tera blast lol
Well hidden power was also op while you can't truly stack it. The move is always th better attacking type
Compared to what? Hidden Power also gives people whatever type move they want and doesn't require Tera. I know it stopped existing at some point, but none of the previous metagames with hidden power removed it as far as I know. Is the STAB boost on Tera Blast really what sets a more limited Hidden Power over the edge?
i don’t find hidden power to be a healthy option either, but yea it is far more tame due to the reliance on hitting super effectively and only being on special attackers. main advantage is that you don’t need to commit your mechanic either, which makes it less matchup fishy
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Is... Was Hidden Power healthy, then?
wait ausma has a channel
Terablast is Terrable!
Hi Ausma, what do you think there is to do in trying to actually take tiering action on Tera Blast? Correct me if I'm wrong but, my understanding of the situation is that TB doesn't have enough support to take action on it because it's not broken, only unhealthy. As someone who wants TB to go but is new to smogon, I don't have enough experience to really know how to go about garnering support to ban something unhealthy rather than broken, so would you mind sharing your insight?
hi! things that are unhealthy can and have been acted upon. a really infamous example this gen has been with sleep. it was very contentious on whether or not sleep was problematic, but many of the reasons that were argued against it were on the basis of being generally considered uncompetitive and a way to introduce variance into the tier.
if you want to vocalize your thoughts and take a stab at rallying support yourself, i would super recommend making a post in the metagame discussion thread we have over on the ou forums; garnering discussion there is a good way to catch attention of mods and the council by proxy
@@ausma9350 thanks for your input!
Preach!
L premise but mega W video in terms of pokemon content.
You need to get on that grind to get yourself the views you deserve, you got a talent for this stuff.
i appreciate that! glad you're able to still enjoy it even if you don't agree w/ my take
So Ausma, was Hidden Power as broken as people claimed? I don't think it was though.
hidden power is more tame for sure but still not a move i particularly am fond of
wait you are world cup winner?
and yeah that I'm play in fishing style any advice to change my gameplay or team building?
@@YegfBtdu us midwest in general, yep! i helped manage our fantastic team.
as for your other question, i would advise trying to target major metagame dynamics. the best matchup fishes tend to be ones with a deep pulse on how 1 on 1 interactions play out; so for instance, tera ice tera blast is a really potent one with lando into opposing lando and gliscor.
Tera Blast is just Hidden Power except they tied it to a stupid gimmick.
Adding to this - genuinely, I believe they should just reintroduce Hidden Power and give it the 'adjust damage based on the higher of your stats' treatement as a baseline. 60BP coverage move of any one type should be perfectly fair.
Yap Yap Yap, when's the video about fish?
tera blast is just a better designed hidden power. hidden power was way worse in my opinion.
Lmao no
Can we sneak Tera Starstorm into a TB ban on a technicality
there are a couple issues with that. the first is that tera starstorm is only part of what makes terapagos busted with tera, and the second is that tiering precedent blocks banning complex banning moves on only one pokemon since you can’t definitively prove it’s the move that breaks them. so no this would definitely not be feasible unless we outright banned tera
@@ausma9350 Aw. The Turtle Commission is disappointed but respects this decision.
Tera Blast is just a more balanced Hidden Power. Change my mind.
probably one of the worst takes anyone's ever had about this generation
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