@ToolDeals Chris, you need to get that battery replaced ASAP! Broken lithium batteries are a big fire risk. Don't want your house to burn down. You should have been able to exchange it right away where you bought the kit, but you certainly can get it warranteed by FLEX.
I've been eagerly waiting for this video since I'm the one that left the comments about the Flex. I only said it was best in class based on three separate opinions I had seen on YT. I don't even own the dang thing! Den of Tools said it was the best he'd ever used, ToolboxBuzz put it on top for power, and VCG proved the vibration claims Flex made in a booth demonstration vs Super Sawzall. I thought all that in aggregate made it clear that Flex was truly on top with the recip. All that said... I ordered the HPT yesterday because of you!
Hey Joe! Ahhh so the catalyst for the video returns! LOL. Man I appreciate you making all this happen honestly. It might be super powerful no doubt, and I also agree, the vibration dampening is great, but as ReynMan stated... it's because it weighs a lot! The Metabo HPT's vibration isn't so bad that it'll make your hand or arm numb but it's significantly lighter and easier to use because of it. I routinely use it with one hand without problem. But you'll enjoy it! Just be sure you got the best price. It's $139 at Lowe's and $209 at Toolbarn as a kit with a 4AH battery.
@@UncleIvan1 The 36-60v video yes, so they put the two in different categories. So not quite directly compared by them, but I thought it was still enough evidence to support the Flex at the time.
They are! They're just Hitachi, and they're Japanese tools. If you look at their high torque impact wrenches, you'll see they're VERY similar to Makita. Lots of their tools look like Makita tools and are designed similarly because... both are Japanese companies. The only thing I'd say stay away from with Metabo HPT is their angle grinder... I hate it. It's sooo bad. I mean, it'll work, but it feels awful in your hands. Makita makes the best grinders in my opinion. They're perfect! Then I'd say Bosch coming in at second.
MHPT is usually always the answer for me. But in this example, that UVP is probably the best Recip on the market. Especially for the price. FLEX has the power in their tools no doubt. But they're just too damn big and heavy for daily use. Same issue I have with Kobalt, they make good tools too, their just so big. Speaking on vibration, FLEX is that good because it weighs 15lbs...weight comes in handy for things like that. Ergonomically nothing stepping up to MHPT to me besides Makita for 2x as much $.
Ahhhh you are so right about the weight! Lighter things will definitely have more vibration due to the lack of dampening. My man! And you know what? It's funny you say that about Kobalt because both Kobalt and Flex are made by Chervon, LOL. So the similarities make sense! Also agreed about Makita. I actually really love Makita tools, it's the $$$$ for me though so I seldom can talk about them on this channel, LOL.
TTC has done it for the power for both High torque and Mid torque. The Metabo HPT won both times. Smoked the Milwaukee in the mid torque. I have both high torque versions. I like the Milwaukee better because it's slightly smaller. Both are heavy as crap, but I do prefer the feel of the Milwaukee when in use. They're pretty much the same though. If I had to recommend one, i'd still say Metabo HPT just for the warranty alone. If you've never used the Milwaukee you wouldn't know what you were missing, and again, it's marginal but still noticeable.
lil fyi: idk if you've heard, but flex updated their lifetime warranty to dec 31 2023, so ya got 1 more year if you've been waitin and/or thought u missed ur chance to get into the platform and get that warranty... cuz id be burnt(lol ya see what i did there?lol) if i DIDN'T have a lifetime warranty for sumn AND the battery started to LEAK BATTERY ACID.
Don't look now but Metabo HPT deals live The 36V 1/2" full size plunge router beast lowest ever $179 Get it while it's hot This is my favorite router ever
I love Metabo HPT. Who else makes a 1/2” cordless plunge router! Their impact driver feels as good in the hand as a Makita does. I’m not sold on Flex. I picked up their hammer drill in Lowes they keep out to demo and couldn’t believe how heavy it was! Yes their tools have power but boy are they a chore to just hold forget about using everyday just picking them up! Crazy.
Exactly! Their High Torque impact wrench is also humungous and heavy... can't do it. I've also never seen batteries leak either so that's scary. They'd have to give me their tools for free and I'd still be worried about using them.
Yeah, I’m with you… I picked that up around the holidays, and the plunge router is beast mode. Hpt isn’t the best tools out there… but overall they are my favorite and go to brand. Hands down they are my get it done line
Question does Ur battery light stay until U unplug it from the saw? talking about the red battery light on the saw itself. Thats the only thing I don't like about the saw!
That Metabo HPT reciprocating saw is quite impressive. It's still at/near the top performer of battery powered reciprocating saws after being out for a few years now. The only one I know that outperforms it is the gen2 Makita 40V, which is in a different price class. The main complaints I've heard about are the twist blade release requires pulling out the blade to access - sounds like a pain if you change blades often, and that level for shoe adjustment could be easier to pull out. Seems like a no- brainer if you're in the line
@@ToolDeals okay cool thank you. Bought the Milwaukee 7 1/4 circ saw at HD for a steal I wanted the HO 6.0 it had so I figured I’d sell the saw that I don’t need lol
@@ToolDeals definitely hpt moves slowest. But I like em so much I can’t stop myself when they go on deep sale or clearance, lol. It makes me happiest when they sell though, and because I like them and want people to know about em , I usually give good deals on em
They're actually on sale today and I'm posting a video on that as we type! The Metabo HPT at Lowe's is $139 tool only and $209 as a kit at Toolbarn. The Flex as a kit with a 5AH battery is on sale at Lowe's right now for $189.
I use both battery platforms and I agree with you to some degree that Flex does feel hefty, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's super heavy. There's some weight to every single Flex tool and it's really a matter of how you get used to them. The other thing you need to be aware of is that the Flex recip is more compact than most despite the weight, so we really don't know what parts they used as I am no engineer myself. If I really didn't like the tool, I would've returned it by now, but the tool is quite the performer that it ended up replacing my Milwaukee gen 2 sawzall (the brand that created sawzall). People are probably thinking I am crazy for making such a move and a lot of it had to do with the anti vibration system. Flex and Metabo are just more user friendly than Milwaukee and won't shake the living hell out of you.
I got my flex recip in that $85 kit deal. Really like it but I'm not a heavy user so the weight isn't all that much of a factor to me. Definitely like it more than the milwaukee fuel. Hopefully they can up their game as they expand and mature their lines of tools. Their prices have come down even to good deal territory every now and then. Concord Carpenter did a full review of 15+ recips too with flex 1 and Metabo (not mhpt) 3. Side point: Wonder if Lowe's jacked up your order after all the head butting y'all have had recently lol
Check again that was a review of the lower powered recipes They ran another test with the heavy duty recips and MHPT and Makita did well The HPT is best bang for buck we have 4 of them for our construction crew and outperform the rest
@@baseballdude8491 yeah the 36v mhpt was in their high powered group, my only point was that it seems to be well regarded by some seemingly trustworthy folks as well. Hopefully competition continues to drive better deals and better improvements all around
U got a dud lemon bro. My flex recip does not flop the blade around like that even with the long diablo pruning blade. Dont know where u got your flex tools honestly. Im not a flex fanboy either just saying. Metabo hot has a tool body lifetime warranty not lifetime tool warranty. But i do like the hpt recip and the gen 2 makita avt recip as well.
@@ToolDeals the way I understand it if your handle breaks off for instance its covered. If your motor burns out its not. Body of the tool is covered not internals. If u got instagram ill send u video of different size blades running on the flex saw no flapping around. Only thing i dint like about the flex saw is the shoe adjustment is tougher to adjust
That's no secret. Best warranty, good service, powerful tools, good ergonomics. They don't play that battery game, they ONLY have High Output batteries. Their 36V tools also are all hybrid. You can plug them in. But in no way is this Flex better at all. No modes, small rafter hook, defective shoe removal mechanism, heavier, and unrelated to the tool, the battery was leaking... ON BRAND NEW TOOLS. It is smaller than the Metabo HPT and looks cooler though. They have the best looking tools in the game but I need everything else to be there too. Plus their stuff was really expensive, but they're coming down in price.
Not at all. I thought someone spilled a soda on the box at first LOL. Then realized the liquid was INSIDE the battery bag, SMH. I have a video from when I unboxed it. I'll post that tomorrow. I'm feeling like it was a return but I also ordered it online so I don't know.
@@ToolDeals Still. UNACCEPTABLE !!! Leaky batteries = so 90s. Even slave trap CCP factories don't send out leaky batteries. Tsk Tsk - SMH - no wonder they gave out their lifetime warranty. Guess they figured one might need it. Whelp - to compete in these inflationary times + the competition being so stiff + and so far ahead, better make that lifetime warranty permanent FLEX. ^ Or don't . Series D- round 50 funding coming up !
Keep your Flex! Been one fail after another for me, LOL. I'm done.
@ToolDeals Chris, you need to get that battery replaced ASAP! Broken lithium batteries are a big fire risk. Don't want your house to burn down. You should have been able to exchange it right away where you bought the kit, but you certainly can get it warranteed by FLEX.
Thank God, nobody wants you to ruin our brand. Flex doesn’t need your terrible advertising or worse your opinion.
That HPT recip is what made me jump all in to that line. Definitely my favorite tool
I've been eagerly waiting for this video since I'm the one that left the comments about the Flex. I only said it was best in class based on three separate opinions I had seen on YT. I don't even own the dang thing! Den of Tools said it was the best he'd ever used, ToolboxBuzz put it on top for power, and VCG proved the vibration claims Flex made in a booth demonstration vs Super Sawzall. I thought all that in aggregate made it clear that Flex was truly on top with the recip. All that said... I ordered the HPT yesterday because of you!
Hey Joe! Ahhh so the catalyst for the video returns! LOL. Man I appreciate you making all this happen honestly. It might be super powerful no doubt, and I also agree, the vibration dampening is great, but as ReynMan stated... it's because it weighs a lot! The Metabo HPT's vibration isn't so bad that it'll make your hand or arm numb but it's significantly lighter and easier to use because of it. I routinely use it with one hand without problem.
But you'll enjoy it! Just be sure you got the best price. It's $139 at Lowe's and $209 at Toolbarn as a kit with a 4AH battery.
have you seen the toolbuxbuzz other recip saw video?
@@UncleIvan1 The 36-60v video yes, so they put the two in different categories. So not quite directly compared by them, but I thought it was still enough evidence to support the Flex at the time.
Why would you have not sent those batteries back??
between the two which has less vibration? I think the flex has less vibrations.
You are correct. The flex has less vibration, but the Metabo HPT is still not bad.
T D I did some research and damn those Metabo tools are supposed to be Fantastic . You be the man
They are! They're just Hitachi, and they're Japanese tools. If you look at their high torque impact wrenches, you'll see they're VERY similar to Makita. Lots of their tools look like Makita tools and are designed similarly because... both are Japanese companies. The only thing I'd say stay away from with Metabo HPT is their angle grinder... I hate it. It's sooo bad. I mean, it'll work, but it feels awful in your hands. Makita makes the best grinders in my opinion. They're perfect! Then I'd say Bosch coming in at second.
@@ToolDeals do you not like the 18 or 36v one
MHPT is usually always the answer for me. But in this example, that UVP is probably the best Recip on the market. Especially for the price. FLEX has the power in their tools no doubt. But they're just too damn big and heavy for daily use. Same issue I have with Kobalt, they make good tools too, their just so big. Speaking on vibration, FLEX is that good because it weighs 15lbs...weight comes in handy for things like that. Ergonomically nothing stepping up to MHPT to me besides Makita for 2x as much $.
Ahhhh you are so right about the weight! Lighter things will definitely have more vibration due to the lack of dampening. My man! And you know what? It's funny you say that about Kobalt because both Kobalt and Flex are made by Chervon, LOL. So the similarities make sense! Also agreed about Makita. I actually really love Makita tools, it's the $$$$ for me though so I seldom can talk about them on this channel, LOL.
How about doing a comparison between Milwaukee and Metabo 1/2 drive cordless impact. Just asking
TTC has done it for the power for both High torque and Mid torque. The Metabo HPT won both times. Smoked the Milwaukee in the mid torque. I have both high torque versions. I like the Milwaukee better because it's slightly smaller. Both are heavy as crap, but I do prefer the feel of the Milwaukee when in use. They're pretty much the same though. If I had to recommend one, i'd still say Metabo HPT just for the warranty alone. If you've never used the Milwaukee you wouldn't know what you were missing, and again, it's marginal but still noticeable.
BTW - Metabo rafter hooks on any of their 36v tools
Yep!
lil fyi: idk if you've heard, but flex updated their lifetime warranty to dec 31 2023, so ya got 1 more year if you've been waitin and/or thought u missed ur chance to get into the platform and get that warranty...
cuz id be burnt(lol ya see what i did there?lol) if i DIDN'T have a lifetime warranty for sumn AND the battery started to LEAK BATTERY ACID.
Don't look now but Metabo HPT deals live
The 36V 1/2" full size plunge router beast lowest ever $179
Get it while it's hot
This is my favorite router ever
I love Metabo HPT. Who else makes a 1/2” cordless plunge router! Their impact driver feels as good in the hand as a Makita does. I’m not sold on Flex. I picked up their hammer drill in Lowes they keep out to demo and couldn’t believe how heavy it was! Yes their tools have power but boy are they a chore to just hold forget about using everyday just picking them up! Crazy.
Exactly! Their High Torque impact wrench is also humungous and heavy... can't do it. I've also never seen batteries leak either so that's scary. They'd have to give me their tools for free and I'd still be worried about using them.
Yeah, I’m with you… I picked that up around the holidays, and the plunge router is beast mode. Hpt isn’t the best tools out there… but overall they are my favorite and go to brand. Hands down they are my get it done line
Question does Ur battery light stay until U unplug it from the saw? talking about the red battery light on the saw itself. Thats the only thing I don't like about the saw!
Metabo HPT is incredible!
That Metabo HPT reciprocating saw is quite impressive. It's still at/near the top performer of battery powered reciprocating saws after being out for a few years now. The only one I know that outperforms it is the gen2 Makita 40V, which is in a different price class. The main complaints I've heard about are the twist blade release requires pulling out the blade to access - sounds like a pain if you change blades often, and that level for shoe adjustment could be easier to pull out. Seems like a no- brainer if you're in the line
Hey brother Chris where exactly do you go to sell tools?
Facebook marketplace or eBay. Milwaukee tools move fast, so do DeWALT. Flex and Metabo or Metabo HPT move SLOW.
@@ToolDeals okay cool thank you. Bought the Milwaukee 7 1/4 circ saw at HD for a steal I wanted the HO 6.0 it had so I figured I’d sell the saw that I don’t need lol
@@ToolDeals definitely hpt moves slowest. But I like em so much I can’t stop myself when they go on deep sale or clearance, lol. It makes me happiest when they sell though, and because I like them and want people to know about em , I usually give good deals on em
I’ve had success with Mercari too
Usually those type of sawsaws you have to use them with 2 hands. They sell the one handed reciprocating saws too you should review them
Good idea. Thanks for thanks for the info!
How much does the tools cost
They're actually on sale today and I'm posting a video on that as we type! The Metabo HPT at Lowe's is $139 tool only and $209 as a kit at Toolbarn.
The Flex as a kit with a 5AH battery is on sale at Lowe's right now for $189.
I use both battery platforms and I agree with you to some degree that Flex does feel hefty, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it's super heavy. There's some weight to every single Flex tool and it's really a matter of how you get used to them. The other thing you need to be aware of is that the Flex recip is more compact than most despite the weight, so we really don't know what parts they used as I am no engineer myself. If I really didn't like the tool, I would've returned it by now, but the tool is quite the performer that it ended up replacing my Milwaukee gen 2 sawzall (the brand that created sawzall). People are probably thinking I am crazy for making such a move and a lot of it had to do with the anti vibration system. Flex and Metabo are just more user friendly than Milwaukee and won't shake the living hell out of you.
I got my flex recip in that $85 kit deal. Really like it but I'm not a heavy user so the weight isn't all that much of a factor to me. Definitely like it more than the milwaukee fuel. Hopefully they can up their game as they expand and mature their lines of tools. Their prices have come down even to good deal territory every now and then.
Concord Carpenter did a full review of 15+ recips too with flex 1 and Metabo (not mhpt) 3.
Side point:
Wonder if Lowe's jacked up your order after all the head butting y'all have had recently lol
Check again that was a review of the lower powered recipes
They ran another test with the heavy duty recips and MHPT and Makita did well
The HPT is best bang for buck we have 4 of them for our construction crew and outperform the rest
@@baseballdude8491 yeah the 36v mhpt was in their high powered group, my only point was that it seems to be well regarded by some seemingly trustworthy folks as well.
Hopefully competition continues to drive better deals and better improvements all around
Fyi-Flex supposedly extended the lifetime warranty thru 2023.
It's flopping lmao 🤣🤣🤣
U got a dud lemon bro. My flex recip does not flop the blade around like that even with the long diablo pruning blade. Dont know where u got your flex tools honestly. Im not a flex fanboy either just saying. Metabo hot has a tool body lifetime warranty not lifetime tool warranty. But i do like the hpt recip and the gen 2 makita avt recip as well.
Could you elaborate on the differences of these warranties? Lowe's. Lowe's is where I got it
@@ToolDeals the way I understand it if your handle breaks off for instance its covered. If your motor burns out its not. Body of the tool is covered not internals. If u got instagram ill send u video of different size blades running on the flex saw no flapping around. Only thing i dint like about the flex saw is the shoe adjustment is tougher to adjust
HPT RTW
Dielectric grease 🤣😂😂
Just admit it your a big fan of Metabo. LOL
That's no secret. Best warranty, good service, powerful tools, good ergonomics. They don't play that battery game, they ONLY have High Output batteries. Their 36V tools also are all hybrid. You can plug them in. But in no way is this Flex better at all. No modes, small rafter hook, defective shoe removal mechanism, heavier, and unrelated to the tool, the battery was leaking... ON BRAND NEW TOOLS. It is smaller than the Metabo HPT and looks cooler though. They have the best looking tools in the game but I need everything else to be there too. Plus their stuff was really expensive, but they're coming down in price.
leaky leaky battery
^ that's no good
Not at all. I thought someone spilled a soda on the box at first LOL. Then realized the liquid was INSIDE the battery bag, SMH. I have a video from when I unboxed it. I'll post that tomorrow. I'm feeling like it was a return but I also ordered it online so I don't know.
@@ToolDeals Still.
UNACCEPTABLE !!! Leaky batteries = so 90s.
Even slave trap CCP factories don't send out leaky batteries.
Tsk Tsk - SMH - no wonder they gave out their lifetime warranty.
Guess they figured one might need it.
Whelp - to compete in these inflationary times + the competition being so stiff + and so far ahead, better make that lifetime warranty permanent FLEX.
^ Or don't .
Series D- round 50 funding coming up !
2023 and the bias towards everything but matabo hpt is why I unsubscribe.. cheeper find me a bolt triple hammer under 300.00??