Cadences in the 16th and 17th centuries

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  • @pauldisaster2208
    @pauldisaster2208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Your videos cured my depression (sorry if my english is bad), im from Latinoamérica (Perú), in my city there are not true music teachers, and your videos are the light for my life, i love this channel ♥️

  • @rorshack23
    @rorshack23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Note to self:
    0:45 Tenorizans (a descending whole-step) (HARD tenor cadence)
    2:08 Hard/Soft Cadences (durum/molle)
    2:40 Adding Cantizans (an ascending half-step) [HARD tenor cadence]
    3:03 Tenor Cadence
    3:29 Bassizans (a leap of a descending fifth/ascending fourth)
    3:55 Authentic Cadence
    4:47 Canto(/sopran) Cadence
    5:02 Plagal Cadence [SOFT tenor cadence] (6:53)
    13:57 Evaded Cadences

    • @sound-engineer
      @sound-engineer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, Rory

    • @LeGouv
      @LeGouv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You magnificent human being

    • @pjbpiano
      @pjbpiano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Beautiful!

  • @carlosandres7006
    @carlosandres7006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +202

    this video is amazing! undeveloped countries have almost no chance to get this kind of information, so i am most grateful for your amazing work.

    • @pierrelouis8877
      @pierrelouis8877 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irlande medlky

    • @adolflazary5864
      @adolflazary5864 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactamente. Es conocimiento intuido pero aquí hay un maestro gratis. Con ejemplos experiencia explicación clara etc etc .es adictivo. Saludos

  • @OdinComposer
    @OdinComposer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    great video! only wish the music examples were louder, and that you'd played the Palestrina example along with the analyzed score!

    • @LimabeanStudios
      @LimabeanStudios 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Fiskepudding127 Agreed, would have really helped to drive the points across, especially when it comes to strong and weak cadences.

    • @UFOBobTV
      @UFOBobTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. It would have been helpful.

    • @lindsaybarche9858
      @lindsaybarche9858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree!

    • @davidbruce7244
      @davidbruce7244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed. I don't know who said that music was all about listening, but whoever said it was right.

    • @FalcoPaul
      @FalcoPaul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agree, playing the last example would have added in appreciating the theoretical analysis

  • @augustulodosmilcatorce9516
    @augustulodosmilcatorce9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    21:07 that smile was enough reward for watching cadences. Also I learned a lot, you can apply lots of these knowledges to understand 18th century counterpoint even better.

  • @alejandronieto576
    @alejandronieto576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I f***ing love the internet because of people and videos like these ones, with so much good information and so well presented. Thank you from Buenos Aires.

  • @BigBandWolf
    @BigBandWolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could listen to Elam all day.

  • @suora88
    @suora88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Astonishing presentation for such a difficult topic... You make it look so simple and understandable to almost anyone who knows the basics of music theory. Bravo!

  • @EdgarFGirtainIV
    @EdgarFGirtainIV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Your channel is amazing. Thank you so much for bringing this knowledge, usually only available to privileged specialists, to the public.

  • @mrnnhnz
    @mrnnhnz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "...focus solely on the cadences. Enjoy." [Fixes me with his mesmer stare until I'm thinking, "Yes boss, I promise I'll enjoy it!"]

  • @clairelecuyer
    @clairelecuyer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't remember if I already commented one of your videos, but after watching a few of them, I have to say how much they are a gift! Very well explained, slow enough so that we can catch everything. Despite a basic musical education and singing in choirs for years (mostly in ancient music), I always had hard times with theory and harmony. Your channel is the best one I found, so thorough yet with a subtile sense of humor and great visuals that make learning fun.
    Also, being french, I understand you perfectly, though I wish there could be more videos with french subtitles (like Allegri's one), moreover for terminology.
    Anyway: thank you for this high quality content ! 🙏
    And I love the owl on this one 🦉

  • @Johannes_Brahms65
    @Johannes_Brahms65 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very comforting to know that so many people have this Passion. Curing my depression too!

  • @SirFuguesALot
    @SirFuguesALot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just stumbled across this channel after thoroughly enjoying Elam Rotem's music. This is really wonderful, thanks so much for all of your work!

  • @narapo1911
    @narapo1911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cannot praise enough the amazing quality of this video. The editing is so good and the information is on point and so well presented. We just had medieval/renessaince period in our musical analysis lessons, and this gives me more insight to how the music was created at that time. So interesting!

  • @SimoneBattaglia94
    @SimoneBattaglia94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent! I'm already waiting for the next episode. Remarkably instructive, deep, simple and entertaining work!

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant presentation and a curiously decorated room.

  • @HumbleNewMusic
    @HumbleNewMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    maybe embarrassing to share but i fell asleep while watching this & had a beautiful, fantastical dream about cadences..... i rewatched the whole video of course... it's wonderfully educational, superbly illustrated & also apparently very soothing... 🙂 thanks Elam 🎶

  • @monscarmeli
    @monscarmeli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:40 This is huge for understanding the development of Western music, and especially the revolutionary shift in prominence from sacred to secular style from the Renaissance into the Baroque.

  • @augustomariogoulartpimenta4727
    @augustomariogoulartpimenta4727 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Maravilhoso como sempre. Obrigado!

  • @cemacmillan
    @cemacmillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before watching this video I was aware of hearing hard or soft reification of a cadence, but I did not know how deliberately apply them as part of the compositional framework. This also encouraged me to listen to Palestrina, always a good idea. Thank you.

  • @mirandac8712
    @mirandac8712 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've been waiting my whole life for this channel! (I studied medieval music with Theodore Karp and modern composition with Pierre Boulez.) Thanks!
    (I'm going to start my own channel soon.)

    • @johnwasani8338
      @johnwasani8338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You studies with boulez???

    • @mirandac8712
      @mirandac8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnwasani8338 Indeed! I even got to know the guy a little bit! The GREATEST guy -- one of the GREATEST guys I've ever met. Nice and warm and hilarious.

    • @mirandac8712
      @mirandac8712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnwasani8338 Needless to say, these were the later years. He pissed off more than a few people back when he was a young turk: he could be a bit hardcore. Then again, these days, it sure seems culture could do with a bit of asskicking. (This channel, for example.)

    • @mojeo522
      @mojeo522 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mirandac8712 You studied with Karp! I'm definately checking your channel when it's up and running!

  • @alistairkirk3264
    @alistairkirk3264 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautifully illustrated and explained. Your videos are extremely valuable; please keep them coming!

  • @nostalgicmodernist1399
    @nostalgicmodernist1399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this clear exposition! I have watched this a couple of times and got something out of it each time.

  • @abueloraton
    @abueloraton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So educational, informative, and essential! Thank you for your work!

  • @lauralaura2905
    @lauralaura2905 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for this video! especially for the terminology that is a bit different from french terminology. i've been into analyzing 16th century music lately and I used Anne Smith as a basis. but thanks to your video it's really even clearer to me that still the lowest voice is important to give a name to a cadence. :)

  • @annatirindelli8879
    @annatirindelli8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merci beaucoup, thank you very much, mille grazie e Complimenti per il Vostro Beautifull Channel 👍👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 Cordiali saluti Anna e Luigi

  • @rowlfpiano1853
    @rowlfpiano1853 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fantastic video, such a good explanation!

  • @trevorpope1913
    @trevorpope1913 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another excellent presentation, thank you.

  • @cocolisodude
    @cocolisodude ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still here.
    Your analyses are excellent and make the context clear! I wish you were around 30 years ago when I was studying this music. I have a much clearer understanding as to how the paradigm shifted. KUDOS!

    • @cocolisodude
      @cocolisodude ปีที่แล้ว

      I love your little shrine to Saint Sponge Bob. I'm sure he's watching over us.

  • @EdleJulve
    @EdleJulve 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bastante complejo este tema. Lo tuve que ver varias veces hasta entenderlo! excelente trabajo!

  • @aaronkrucher2306
    @aaronkrucher2306 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started studying musictheory in september at the HSLU with Felix Diergarten :D thank you very much for all the videos. They really help me out! Wish you all the best

  • @swirls999
    @swirls999 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful! You're knowledge of this subject and the ability to explain it in your second language is amazing!

  • @kezza2013
    @kezza2013 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent, clear and very useful video, thank you!

  • @derrik-bosse
    @derrik-bosse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched entire video. Very helpful, as I have been looking for ways to understand Rennaissance music better. Clearly looking through 2021 eyes can be detrimental.

  • @brugelxencerf
    @brugelxencerf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Great lectures. Can you recommend similar quality lecture on the emergence of common practice harmony as in JS Bach's music? When did it switch to being about chords? What caused the the two major and minor modes to become predominant?

    • @carlosandres7006
      @carlosandres7006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The major change I think was the functional harmony that Rameau introduced. Bach did not side with this new vision. He wrote his chorales from counterpoint and figured bass, yet they were taken as models for common practice harmony but never conceived in that way.
      The true art of keyboard playing by CPE Bach, gives you an idea of his theoretical approach

  • @auedpo
    @auedpo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I can't believe I have only today had your channel suggested to me. This lesson taught me more about early counterpoint than an entire semester in college. Thank you. :)

  • @vivirodden7409
    @vivirodden7409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Revolutionary! Like all Maestros during the centuries. Thanks alot!

  • @EricVanBuggenhaut
    @EricVanBuggenhaut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is so interesting and well explained. Thank you for this video.

  • @dmitrysofronov8624
    @dmitrysofronov8624 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The old terminology was soooo confused! And you're a great man! You've come up with the complete understanding and comprehensive terminology so that now we can, with a shade of pride, think that we know more of the early cadences than it is in the treatises.

  • @kazrej
    @kazrej 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course I'm still here. Please keep up the great work!

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantástico! Muitos parabéns e muito obrigado! Por favor continuai com estas maravilhosas explicações!

  • @Leitmotif01
    @Leitmotif01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your great teaching !

  • @ScholaCantorumSalta
    @ScholaCantorumSalta 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your shows! They are most illuminating! Thank you very much!

  • @janelamire
    @janelamire 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for your incredible synthesis of the practical and theoretical aspects of late 16th and early 17th century music! Your videos are fabulous!!

  • @abird008
    @abird008 ปีที่แล้ว

    Light shines in your video. Congratulations

  • @nelsonjuliangomezgiraldo7852
    @nelsonjuliangomezgiraldo7852 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely brilliant! I love your video and your teachings. I learned so much from you! Thank you very much!

  • @costellomhor
    @costellomhor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not what I was looking for, but delighted to find your channel!

  • @heavynov
    @heavynov 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Fantastic video as always! Thank you very much, those are most appreciated!
    May I ask which software you used to create the scrolling score?

  • @fyhaskamdig
    @fyhaskamdig 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your great and very useful videos!

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am so glad to have happened upon this channel. Many thanks.

  • @dovedove9531
    @dovedove9531 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful work. thanks a lot!

  • @manuscorner35
    @manuscorner35 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video was awesome, since I love baroque and renaissance music, but I can't ignore how cute is your jake T-shirt n.n

  • @antoniomoiseslorenzo
    @antoniomoiseslorenzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderfull examples for my counterpoint exercises. Thanks so much! Great video as always 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @jean-pierredjukic4082
    @jean-pierredjukic4082 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am learning a lot ! great video, I will work more the cadences since they are so important in understanding the structure of a work which I use to play without looking at the structure...great tutorials indeed !

  • @composerdoh
    @composerdoh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this. I only wish you'd played the Palestrina score so we could hear it while you showed the cadences- at least play the cadences so we could hear them. I studied this stuff back in undergrad and graduate school, but I had trouble following it back then- it's a lot easier to understand now.

  • @altdelete7257
    @altdelete7257 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add my voice to the chorus of praise for this excellent video.

  • @profsjp
    @profsjp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for such interesting insights. Yours is a very special video series.

  • @pfodtakem9536
    @pfodtakem9536 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best music channel ever. Thank you so much for your work. I would appreciate more audio exemples!

  • @alftupper9359
    @alftupper9359 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marvellous because even I can grasp how music is made.

  • @peiquedq
    @peiquedq 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh kind sir, I beg for more on cadences 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @kentkacs3140
    @kentkacs3140 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very clear and well presented!

  • @classic304
    @classic304 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The video is great! And everything is very clear :) Looking forward to the next one!

  • @CasaErwin
    @CasaErwin 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enlightening!! When I studied music (in the 20th century) I only learned of 3 cadences: Authenic, Plagal and Deceptive. They were much more simply defined as, Authentic: V -> I (Dominant to Tonic). Plagal: IV -> I (Subdominant to Tonic). A Deceptive cadence is a progression that feels like it is going to be a cadence, but the final chord is not I (Tonic) but rather iii (Mediant) or vi (Submediant) each having two two tones in common with the Tonic. I presume that the Deceptive Cadence is what is referred to in this video as the Evasive Cadence.

  • @filipefrancoafonso
    @filipefrancoafonso 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so happy I found this channel. Awesome work! Congratulations!

  • @alindsayfieldrecording
    @alindsayfieldrecording 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just discovered this channel as I submitted my dissertation analysising music by Schutz. This video would have been even more useful if I'd discovered it a month earlier. Fantastic video!

  • @luizalabouriau863
    @luizalabouriau863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again an absolutely fantastic and clear video with so many useful informations. I listened to the Palestrina afterwards (guys, there are many wonderful recordings of this beautiful piece here on TH-cam! Take a look for yourselves :) ) with the analysis and it really made me enjoy Palestrina’s work on a different level already (and I guess this is just the beginning!). Thank you, thank you, thank you, Elam Rotem and co.!

  • @amritzansara
    @amritzansara ปีที่แล้ว

    12:10 the plagal cadence here sounds absolutely amazing 😁

  • @elchatismiquin6445
    @elchatismiquin6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great!
    Your channel is a torrent of knowledge!
    Thanks!

  • @psilvamacevoy
    @psilvamacevoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found your channel today and Iam so glad of it. I've learned a lot. Very thanks tou you maestro and please keep doing such good videos and also many thanks to the maestro of video animation/effects. Greetings from Chile

  • @timflatus
    @timflatus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so interesting because I think melodically. I have always had trouble understanding classical theory despite being an experienced musician and composer. Thank you so much!

  • @thormusique
    @thormusique 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this wonderful and thorough explanation ! I wish I'd had this explained to me this well in my musicology classes. It would've prevented me from banging my head against the wall quite so much.

  • @angelags5069
    @angelags5069 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic! thank you for your amazing work.

  • @ganaelschneider
    @ganaelschneider 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for the video. Great subject!. I would have loved a meantone temperament on the organ though those thirds were hurting my ear!

  • @679tomi
    @679tomi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific! Thank you!

  • @christian.schubert
    @christian.schubert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:29
    Thanks for the great Video!
    But is it just me or is there a mistake. Shouldn't it be a 4-3 Vorhalt instead of 2-3 ?
    Thanks!
    Christian

  • @fabiobenitesfagote
    @fabiobenitesfagote 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! I'm glad to see such high quality content videos on youtube, thank you for making them.

  • @woscowoscoscos4458
    @woscowoscoscos4458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. !! Congratulations for the wonderful channel .. !! Thank you very much for sharing. !! I have enjoyed it very much.! Excellent way to explain.! Continue like this. !! i love this channel ..! Subscribed.! Thank you for the Spanish subtitles..!!

  • @tropicjam7343
    @tropicjam7343 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brillant and understandable

  • @Jorge.Porras
    @Jorge.Porras 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!

  • @mandalajose
    @mandalajose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and content. Thank you for doing these research and for explaining it so clearly.

  • @CincoGuajero-kd2rh
    @CincoGuajero-kd2rh ปีที่แล้ว

    21:08 "If you are still Here..."
    Yes, I'm Here. Thanks!

  • @Nostromok6
    @Nostromok6 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ,,,muy groso este video queridos......geniales.....muchas gracias....

  • @OmarzLiszt
    @OmarzLiszt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much!

  • @WerIstWieJesus
    @WerIstWieJesus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent! I was longtime waiting for such an explanation.

  • @francis55080
    @francis55080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful. thanks!

  • @declamatory
    @declamatory 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elam, your facial expression just before "If you're still here" is great!

  • @giovannigalletta4529
    @giovannigalletta4529 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this amazing video!

  • @JaimeLandini
    @JaimeLandini 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelente info! Gracias!

  • @DrKub007
    @DrKub007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so clear, thank you

  • @akabga
    @akabga 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have me... you have me... you have me... YOU LOST ME!!

  • @marcopangrazzi7443
    @marcopangrazzi7443 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! thank you

  • @drocacan
    @drocacan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job! Your channel is awesome.

  • @PastorB1978
    @PastorB1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. I miss my time spent in Music Theory class in college.

  • @marcosPRATA918
    @marcosPRATA918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teoria, harmonia, história da música, exemplos sonoros e visuais, bom demais!

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonderful

  • @markokassenaar4387
    @markokassenaar4387 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done! The visuals are very good.

  • @caterscarrots3407
    @caterscarrots3407 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't it possible to have a 3 step cadence? Also when I hear Cadence, I always think of this:
    I -> IV -> I -> V ->V7 -> I for major
    and
    i -> iv -> i -> v -> vm7 -> i for minor

  • @MrJonahWhaler
    @MrJonahWhaler 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I may, I would suggest a video with analyzis of one or two different mottets from all the compositional perspectives: modes, cadences, mutations, probabl semantics of motives and modes etc.

  • @evertvandenberghe
    @evertvandenberghe ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have loved to hear the analysed motet with the annotated score moving along its progression :)
    Apart from that. Great video, good insight. Tnx a lot!!

  • @billstewartbill
    @billstewartbill 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do wish you had played the Palestrina for us, but I will try to find a performance.