I adored Arrogate. I'm British and thought it would be fantastic if Enable would be covered by him when she retired from racing seeing as Juddmonte owned them both. Alas, not to be. 😢
I read on another post that he had a problem in his neck. And then fell in his stall and they couldn’t get him up. I’m a horse owner and these symptoms could be several things. All of which can be unsurvivable.
Juddmonte Farm can easily be the reason why Arrogate died. Swelling of the upper region is rare and is most common after a misplaced, high IM injection. The middle region swells most commonly as a result of injection reaction. The lower region swells with spinal column injury, and any misplaced IV injection. Damage to the jugular vein can result in swelling here as can heart failure with blood backup into the jugular vein. Fractures and injury of the spine can be associated with swelling here too. Damage to the trachea allows air to escape and become trapped under the skin. This causes a specific type of crackly, soft swelling. Traumatic injury is possible in any region. This could be why they don’t want to tell us the reason of Arrogates death.
Pay Attention It’s all about insurance and getting there money from his sudden death. If it’s an obvious thing that killed him then getting the insurance money would be hard. So they act like they don’t know.
A fan from Japan. I hope someone will buy one of his offsprings because I believe his blood will make a perfect match to the Japanese racecourses and a tremendous contribution to the breeders later on. A huge loss to the world of horse breeding.
@@kevinbarry1517 That's just it. I imagine the owners know what happened and the doctors that performed the necropsy know but they are keeping it secret as to what killed him. There's a reason for the secrecy.
@@italianwaterice9594 I don't believe that. According to the descriptions of his symptoms, the heart had nothing to do with a sore neck. Heart attacks have very specific symptoms. I had a horse go down while I was riding him and that was a heart attack. Furthermore, why wouldn't a heart attack be reported as to why he died? Not a heart attack.
This crushed me! They need full disclosure on what happened if it’s known. This is one of those times A.I. burns in my frontal lobe as long as genetics can be ruled out. Cloning has been a huge success in Quarter Horses by allowing performance horses longer careers therefore proving longevity in soundness. Arrowgate had an extended career, but WAY TOO MANY Thoroughbreds are RUSHED to the breeding shed before they’re even close to being fully mature. The industry needs CONSISTENT HEALTHIER and SOUND horses, not just more of the same. I believe it’s time to allow science to help take the lead. JMHO.
You could see after he came back from Dubai that he was veering to his right..never regained form and there was something off even then...I read that he had neurological issue...it must have been manifesting even then... I can't believe he is gone....so young
In the last week of May 2020 Arrogate's stud schedule was suspended when he appeared to be suffering from soreness in his neck. He then fell in his stall, was unable to get back to his feet, and was sent for treatment at the Hagyard Clinic. After four days of tests and unsuccessful treatment, he was euthanized on June 2. A statement issued by Juddmonte said "His will to fight, so valuable to him on the racetrack, became a challenge in his care. When serious secondary health issues set in, the decision was made to put him to sleep
No, cloning is the worst thing in my opinion and will never be allowed in the Thoroughbred breed. People already talk about it being inbred. Cloning would ensure it. The Jockey Club has already taken steps to phase in restrictions in the number of mares that can be bred in a season to a stallion to combat the inbreeding situation. I think that AI and cloning has ruined the QH breed. They are the most inbred breed of horses and produce the largest number of horses going to slaughter every year.
Suzanne Young You totally missed the REASONS I brought up! Too much of anything can be a bad thing! But I refuse to believe how having a horse like John Henry or Soi Phet who were gelded and held up to race for SO LONG aren’t valuable to the longevity of the breed! Yet, Big Brown is in the breeding shed and had NOTORIOUS bad feet! It’s inbred and weak because people are continually going to the SAME stallions that just win a few races and THEY ARE BREAKING DOWN!!!! Cloning isn’t the cause for the AQHA’s problems! Sadly, the versatility allows for just about anyone being able to find a use for them and the low price allows for many different types of people to own them; the good and the bad! I’m talking about using science to save the soundness and overall longevity of the Thoroughbred! Finding animals that are genetically sound and working them back into the gene pool for the good of the breed! I’m NOT talking about cloning Mr. Prospector 10,000 times, but why would you? Try finding something without him loaded in a pedigree. He was a helluva producer, but what if he died of something that proved genetic? That can happen just like what happened with Impressive.
@@k.wilki0392 I agree that the Thoroughbred needs to be genetically sounder and that can be done through outcrossing to other bloodlines and cutting down on the number of mares bred per year. Further scientific study is needed as well. However, any artificial means of breeding should not be done including cloning. Less inbreeding is better. Breeders must look for sound horses and breed to sound horses to make improvements. I hate what's happened to the quarter horse breed. I didn't say cloning was the problem, but it certainly hasn't helped. I don't like how they do embryo transfers on some mares where they produce three or four times the foals they would have in their natural lifetime.
They won’t come up with an explanation for his death because they want the insurance money from his “unexplainable death” This is how the horse racing industry insurance companies work.
What? Juddmonte explained how he died, "He had a core lesion in his spinal cord that basically rendered him a quadriplegic," said O'Rourke. "We don't know exactly how it occurred. He didn't have a fall or major accident that was obvious to have caused it, other than he was a horse that was always rearing and bucking and playing about."
No it isn't? He died because of a tumor that grew on his spinal cord and rendered him paralyzed. They euthanized him on humane grounds, they couldn't get him up for days and secondary issues had set in.
@@OfficialMuffiin How is it that you are the privileged one with this information? I've even googled Arrogate and the reasons why he died and there's nothing. Just "an illness" is all that's reported. Who are you? And you're wrong. It is a secret.
@@OfficialMuffiin After numerous tries at getting the right google words down, I finally found the Bloodhorse article you are talking about. Thanks for finally clearing up this mystery for me. It's still the only place on the internet that I find any explanation of any kind.
@@MrBangbangjim sorry I was too lazy to link it myself lol, glad you found it. It was the only info I could find too on it, wonder why they weren't that public about it.
Everyone demanding answers when they anit even apart of the farm's team. Seriously, no damn vet wakes up today and says "I'm going to murder a multi million dollar champion horse" they'd lose their damn licence and be thrown into prison for it. Be grateful the TB industry even gives you answers to some horses' deaths, horses like Barbaro and Big Red and Eight Bells just to name a few. And to the IDIOT saying they can't say due to insurance reasons, you're full of shit. When Barbaro broke down, his owners still cashed in on the insurance they had invested on him but not only that, they used that money to try and save his life. Not every race horse's death is going to have answers handed over to you just because you DEMAND them. It's none of our damn business. We aren't the owners, caregivers, etc. And swelling in the neck isn't JUST caused by injections. Bug bites can cause massive swelling. Him going down in his stall and straining a muscle can cause swelling and yes, a strained muscle, can kill if not treated quickly enough. Constant coughing from 'choke' can cause swelling and can even cause life threatening infections. A kick to the neck can also cause swelling (and yes horses can cause self injury). So many net vets and not a lick of em have a degree.
I get all weepy every time I see one of his babies run... I need to get a grip. "Neurological issue on his neck" sounds vague. Everything 'stems' from the "Atlas," says a well-known animal/human chiropractor--up in the poll area, so I wonder... and I wonder about "Shivers," too, a horrible neurological condition that, apparently, there's no test for...
It's been months since this Beautiful Majestic Boy passed away,I Still can't believe he's really gone.I really hope is Songbird Filly is a Special One. RIP BEAUTIFUL MAJESTIC TALENTED Boy.😂😂
How many starts did he make? Less then 10 I bet. Now he’s dead. Idiots will line up with millions to buy this line. No way. TB racing has to clean it up and quickly.
I was crushed when I heard he passed. Such a talented remarkable horse he was.
The Dubai World Cup win was unbelievable
The best race I have ever seen...Hats off to Prince Khalid, Smith,Baffert...
I adored Arrogate. I'm British and thought it would be fantastic if Enable would be covered by him when she retired from racing seeing as Juddmonte owned them both. Alas, not to be. 😢
Next best thing is get 1 of his sons to cover her. 👍💯♥️
I’m Irish! Hello from across the sea :)
It broke my heart when I heard he passed..
Uh, can we have a good solid extensive video on the actual yearlings.
Why are they not the actual yearlings?
Pro trick : watch series on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies recently.
@Alan Jesse Definitely, have been watching on Flixzone for years myself =)
Wow. I had no idea. Bless his heart. What a champion. Reminds me of when War Pass died at a young age. STILL disturbed by that...
I read on another post that he had a problem in his neck. And then fell in his stall and they couldn’t get him up. I’m a horse owner and these symptoms could be several things. All of which can be unsurvivable.
EPM?
Lesion on the spine
2023 Belmont winner Arcangelo .
Son from third crop.
"His stamina was unbelievable " until his exhausted body could not take anymore stress.
It's a shame he's gone
I wanna see his songbird foal lol
2:20 it all started at 00:04 at the morning😂
Im excited about his half to whitmore
Juddmonte Farm can easily be the reason why Arrogate died. Swelling of the upper region is rare and is most common after a misplaced, high IM injection. The middle region swells most commonly as a result of injection reaction. The lower region swells with spinal column injury, and any misplaced IV injection. Damage to the jugular vein can result in swelling here as can heart failure with blood backup into the jugular vein. Fractures and injury of the spine can be associated with swelling here too. Damage to the trachea allows air to escape and become trapped under the skin. This causes a specific type of crackly, soft swelling. Traumatic injury is possible in any region. This could be why they don’t want to tell us the reason of Arrogates death.
Could there be another reason why they don't want to say why he died?
The Vets killed him, as so many doctors do people.
Rick Baldwin yup and won’t say cause of death because insurance reasons. They want there Money.
Pay Attention It’s all about insurance and getting there money from his sudden death. If it’s an obvious thing that killed him then getting the insurance money would be hard. So they act like they don’t know.
@@Blaze4015 cancer such as lymphoma can cause swelling.
Greatest horse since secretariat...
RIP King. You will never be forgotten
So mismanaged at the end of his career. His win streak will stand the test of time. He was one of the Greats.
A fan from Japan. I hope someone will buy one of his offsprings because I believe his blood will make a perfect match to the Japanese racecourses and a tremendous contribution to the breeders later on. A huge loss to the world of horse breeding.
OMG such a beautiful horse. I always like betting on a Grey.
Sadly many great Horses like Arrowgate leave the stage of life all too early.
Can't argue about Arcangelo or the fillie Secret Oath. They both won one of their Triple Crown races.
And now, Seize the Grey just won the Preakness Stakes!!
How bout Arcangelo winning the Belmont!!!!!
Jenna Antonucci is a shining light in horse racing.
And Seize the Grey winning the Preakness 2024
UNREAL ARROGATE....LOVED HIM......GONE SO SOON....HE WALKED AWAY FROM RACING...... LIKE HE KNEW OF EARLY DEATH....RIP.......!!!
R.I.P. Son💞💞😢😭😭
Will always miss him
There is something very fishy about the secrecy regarding what killed this horse. I'd be real careful investing in one of his foals.
Why what happened to him
@@kevinbarry1517 That's just it. I imagine the owners know what happened and the doctors that performed the necropsy know but they are keeping it secret as to what killed him. There's a reason for the secrecy.
@@MrBangbangjim Heart Attack, Steroids weaken the heart after a while
@@italianwaterice9594 I don't believe that. According to the descriptions of his symptoms, the heart had nothing to do with a sore neck. Heart attacks have very specific symptoms. I had a horse go down while I was riding him and that was a heart attack. Furthermore, why wouldn't a heart attack be reported as to why he died? Not a heart attack.
@@MrBangbangjim Because Baffert is currently under investigation for several horses testing positive and it would add fuel to the fire
What really happened to Arrogate...
Where is Song Gate? Is she a brood theymare?
She's owned by Mandy Pope and is a broodmare
Why he died ?
Nooooooo 😫😭😫😭😫😭😫😭
This crushed me! They need full disclosure on what happened if it’s known. This is one of those times A.I. burns in my frontal lobe as long as genetics can be ruled out. Cloning has been a huge success in Quarter Horses by allowing performance horses longer careers therefore proving longevity in soundness. Arrowgate had an extended career, but WAY TOO MANY Thoroughbreds are RUSHED to the breeding shed before they’re even close to being fully mature. The industry needs CONSISTENT HEALTHIER and SOUND horses, not just more of the same. I believe it’s time to allow science to help take the lead. JMHO.
You could see after he came back from Dubai that he was veering to his right..never regained form and there was something off even then...I read that he had neurological issue...it must have been manifesting even then...
I can't believe he is gone....so young
In the last week of May 2020 Arrogate's stud schedule was suspended when he appeared to be suffering from soreness in his neck. He then fell in his stall, was unable to get back to his feet, and was sent for treatment at the Hagyard Clinic. After four days of tests and unsuccessful treatment, he was euthanized on June 2. A statement issued by Juddmonte said "His will to fight, so valuable to him on the racetrack, became a challenge in his care. When serious secondary health issues set in, the decision was made to put him to sleep
No, cloning is the worst thing in my opinion and will never be allowed in the Thoroughbred breed. People already talk about it being inbred. Cloning would ensure it. The Jockey Club has already taken steps to phase in restrictions in the number of mares that can be bred in a season to a stallion to combat the inbreeding situation. I think that AI and cloning has ruined the QH breed. They are the most inbred breed of horses and produce the largest number of horses going to slaughter every year.
Suzanne Young You totally missed the REASONS I brought up! Too much of anything can be a bad thing! But I refuse to believe how having a horse like John Henry or Soi Phet who were gelded and held up to race for SO LONG aren’t valuable to the longevity of the breed! Yet, Big Brown is in the breeding shed and had NOTORIOUS bad feet! It’s inbred and weak because people are continually going to the SAME stallions that just win a few races and THEY ARE BREAKING DOWN!!!! Cloning isn’t the cause for the AQHA’s problems! Sadly, the versatility allows for just about anyone being able to find a use for them and the low price allows for many different types of people to own them; the good and the bad! I’m talking about using science to save the soundness and overall longevity of the Thoroughbred! Finding animals that are genetically sound and working them back into the gene pool for the good of the breed! I’m NOT talking about cloning Mr. Prospector 10,000 times, but why would you? Try finding something without him loaded in a pedigree. He was a helluva producer, but what if he died of something that proved genetic? That can happen just like what happened with Impressive.
@@k.wilki0392 I agree that the Thoroughbred needs to be genetically sounder and that can be done through outcrossing to other bloodlines and cutting down on the number of mares bred per year. Further scientific study is needed as well. However, any artificial means of breeding should not be done including cloning. Less inbreeding is better. Breeders must look for sound horses and breed to sound horses to make improvements.
I hate what's happened to the quarter horse breed. I didn't say cloning was the problem, but it certainly hasn't helped. I don't like how they do embryo transfers on some mares where they produce three or four times the foals they would have in their natural lifetime.
They won’t come up with an explanation for his death because they want the insurance money from his “unexplainable death” This is how the horse racing industry insurance companies work.
What? Juddmonte explained how he died,
"He had a core lesion in his spinal cord that basically rendered him a quadriplegic," said O'Rourke. "We don't know exactly how it occurred. He didn't have a fall or major accident that was obvious to have caused it, other than he was a horse that was always rearing and bucking and playing about."
1 of the outstanding 👏 👌 🙌 ✨ 😎 😍 👏 👌 🙌 ✨ 😎 😍 👏 👌 🙌 ✨ 😎 😍 👏 👌 🙌 ✨ 😎 😍 👏 👌 🙌
Always my no 1
Magnificent Grey so magnificent 👑👍
I'd love to know WHY he's gone. But it's a secret.
No it isn't? He died because of a tumor that grew on his spinal cord and rendered him paralyzed. They euthanized him on humane grounds, they couldn't get him up for days and secondary issues had set in.
@@OfficialMuffiin How is it that you are the privileged one with this information? I've even googled Arrogate and the reasons why he died and there's nothing. Just "an illness" is all that's reported. Who are you? And you're wrong. It is a secret.
@@MrBangbangjim its from a bloodhorse article, direct quote in it from the juddmonte manager explaining this
@@OfficialMuffiin After numerous tries at getting the right google words down, I finally found the Bloodhorse article you are talking about. Thanks for finally clearing up this mystery for me. It's still the only place on the internet that I find any explanation of any kind.
@@MrBangbangjim sorry I was too lazy to link it myself lol, glad you found it. It was the only info I could find too on it, wonder why they weren't that public about it.
Everyone demanding answers when they anit even apart of the farm's team. Seriously, no damn vet wakes up today and says "I'm going to murder a multi million dollar champion horse" they'd lose their damn licence and be thrown into prison for it. Be grateful the TB industry even gives you answers to some horses' deaths, horses like Barbaro and Big Red and Eight Bells just to name a few. And to the IDIOT saying they can't say due to insurance reasons, you're full of shit. When Barbaro broke down, his owners still cashed in on the insurance they had invested on him but not only that, they used that money to try and save his life. Not every race horse's death is going to have answers handed over to you just because you DEMAND them. It's none of our damn business. We aren't the owners, caregivers, etc.
And swelling in the neck isn't JUST caused by injections. Bug bites can cause massive swelling. Him going down in his stall and straining a muscle can cause swelling and yes, a strained muscle, can kill if not treated quickly enough. Constant coughing from 'choke' can cause swelling and can even cause life threatening infections. A kick to the neck can also cause swelling (and yes horses can cause self injury). So many net vets and not a lick of em have a degree.
Sound like he was a unique character let's his traits are passed on to his progeny!✈
Love you 😘
Arrogat Meilleure chauval de tous les temps
I get all weepy every time I see one of his babies run... I need to get a grip. "Neurological issue on his neck" sounds vague. Everything 'stems' from the "Atlas," says a well-known animal/human chiropractor--up in the poll area, so I wonder... and I wonder about "Shivers," too, a horrible neurological condition that, apparently, there's no test for...
It's been months since this Beautiful Majestic Boy passed away,I Still can't believe he's really gone.I really hope is Songbird Filly is a Special One.
RIP BEAUTIFUL MAJESTIC TALENTED Boy.😂😂
Why are u laughing?
@@mo0onsh0t Those might be tears!
Arrogate 🇸🇦💔💙😭
I love that horse.
Yes,Dubai world cup wins,house Trainers is good trainers
He had baffert juice
How many starts did he make? Less then 10 I bet. Now he’s dead. Idiots will line up with millions to buy this line. No way. TB racing has to clean it up and quickly.
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I want a lot of money on arrogate RIP
You mean you won a lot of money not want a lot of money.
BAFFERT SCARRED ARROGATES heart!!!