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'Australian Style Points Based Immigration' Explained - TLDR News
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The Conservatives keep talking about Australian Style Points Based Immigration Systems. It's become a somewhat unwieldy catchphrase for the party and a core to how they see the UK operating post-Brexit. In this video, we explain what it means, how Australia works and what it could mean for the UK
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Best of journalism: "Honestly, i don't know"
Other journalists pretend to know
It just sounds good
PepeLaugh
"Yeah nah you need the required koalifications to get in here mate"
"You mean qualifications?"
"Yeah nah"
Australien
you made me actually laugh out loud in my office. now my boss is looking at me all weird. thanks mate lol
@Celtic Revival / Adfywiad Celtaidd more depressing than ironic but a valid point nonetheless
ab'original comment!
"Criminal record?"
"Sorry no, is that still a requirement?"
"So ultimately, the only real difference between the Australian and UK immigration systems is that Australia lets in a lot more and gives them more funding"
LOL!!! I did not see that one coming.
The ultimate plot twist
Funny thing is our Labour politicians down here in Australia keep whining about how compassionate the current party is and how we should be letting in way MORE.
EnourmousLetters Compassion or Chinese shills paid for by the CCP.
To be honest I only know about Australian politics from ‘Friendlyjordies’ and he is unapologetically pro labour so it’s a bit one sided.
The Chinese are pretty aggressive at the moment though. Australia should be careful. When the Chinese come to collect their debts it won’t be pleasant.
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 bit of both really
EnourmousLetters Things normally are.
Any chance you can increase your recording volume? I can barely hear it on my phone, even at maximum volume...
Historic London Tours I had the same issue! :)
I was about to comment in confusion over your comment, until I realised that while I could hear him comfortably, my volume was already set to near maximum.
Not to mention, the ads are excruciatingly loud by comparison.
Agreed. Volume is normally great. I thought it was my speaker
I just had to crank my PC speakers to an ungodly high volume to be able to listen to this episode. I accidentally opened another TH-cam tab and played another video and almost blew out my ears. Definitely needs work on the audio mix of the video, perhaps worth a re-upload?
I know Im a broken record by this point but PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SORT OUT YOUR AUDIO IN POST!!!
The final monologue was about 30x louder than the rest iof the piece!
Interesting. If Spain would adopt the same system for UK people. What would happen with all the UK pensioners there?
Spain's choice, and rightly so. If they are sensible, they say no recourse to public funds. The UK should do the same.
A lot pensioners might leave anyway. If the UK is out of the EU the mutual recognition of health insurance will end. So pensioners would need to opt into a European private insurance or travel home every time they want to see a doctor.
@@swanky_yuropean7514 Well each country will have to weigh it up. Turns out that if the UK plays tit for tat, the UK wins. In most cases there are fewer Brits in each country than vice versa. The UK gets back relatively wealthy retirees. It just says, no recourse to public funds and the poorer leave the UK. The richer migrants stay because they are better off.
@@Nickle314 Wealty retirees? What a joke. Do you know the cost of their health treatments?
I really hope a hard Brexit and we'll see who's right. Good luck with your "winnings".
BTW, I'm a "richer" migrant in the UK and I'm already looking elsewere because here Engineering salaries are dropping to ridiculous levels and I precisely don't have any need to live among uneducated, racist and xenophobic people. Almost any European country pays better now.
@@Nickle314 Spain will probably not send them home because of international outrage. But pensioners are not the high value migrants you make them out to be, they are rather mediocre migrants. They barely pay any taxes they don't produce anything. They add only small amount of value to an economy and they clog up hospitals with their issues.
Nonetheless private insurance for a pensioner is still really pricy, which not everyone can afford.
Part of the Australian immigration system is also locking up refugees in concentration camps. And this detention is indefinite.
Feel free to adopt everything except for this part.
I went through the aussie system two years ago, for skilled migration. Rather important correction : you stated that "the visa length is 5 years, and that it can be renewed after 2 years". That's incorrect, the visa length is permanent. Only your re-entry rights are 5 years longs : that means that as long as you stay in the country, you can legally stay all your life. you need to apply for a new visa (Resident Return Visa) only if you wish to travel abroad and then come back. This new visa is almost automatically given if you've lived in Australie for at least 2 years during the last 5 years.
We already have a points based system for non eu citizens. Our points based system is actually more restrictive than the Australian one because our system requires migrants to have a job offer before they can enter the country. When brextremists say "Australian style points based system', do they mean open door immigration policy where you can come in without a job, or do they not understand how the Australian style points based system works.
It doesn't work does it. Lots of people from Asia, Africa, South America working in low paid jobs.
The ‘Brextremists’ want an overhaul and the points based system applied to EU citizens.
For all you remainiacs bluster about brown skinned people and racism it’s the Polish that make up the largest proportion of immigrants.
70% of people want a reduction. If you look at the numbers they are getting it no matter what system they put in place.
Look i dont live in the uk, but you cant go throwing around 'brextremists' as an insult when you are the one chanting democracy while trying to supress the results of a referendum and go against the will of the people.
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 WE NEED TO CANCEL BREXIT
@@nathanpatricbrown WE NEED TO CANCEL BREXIT
"We want to reduce immigration by using this system!"
"But it lets more people in... Including those without a job awaiting them. Australia is even moving into a more British direction."
"Can't be! It is new and shiny, it HAS to be better!"
^Conversation between someone who just defends whatever Johnson/the Tories say and someone who wondered what it is.
Reduce unskilled immigration, plus the next GE will be fought on immigration.
This one is all about Brexit.
"new and shiny" from 1896
Nestrior
Net Overseas Migration by Visa Groupings and Australian Citizens............
Temporary visa holders were the majority of migrant arrivals (62%) and migrant departures (49%) in the year ending 30 June 2018.
There were 327,300 migrant arrivals on temporary visas including nearly 159,000 international students (30% of all migrant arrivals)
Arrivals on temporary work skilled visas decreased from a year ago by 19% to 26,600 people
Migrant departures on temporary visas increased by 8% to 141,400 people.
For permanent visa holders in 2018, migrant arrivals declined while migrant departures increased from one year earlier.
17% of all migrant arrivals were permanent visa holders
Permanent visa holders arriving decreased from a year ago to 87,900 people (down 17%)
Permanent visa holders departing increased from a year ago to 21,200 people (up 3%)
7% of all migrant departures were permanent visa holders.
For Australian and New Zealand citizens (who do not require a visa for migration to Australia), in the year ending 30 June 2018:
30,400 New Zealand citizens moved to Australia to live, however in the same year, 23,400 left Australia to live overseas
76,500 Australian citizens returned to Australia after living overseas but in the same year 90,600 decided to move overseas to live.
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 Swing and a miss
The answer is fucking obvious.
The Australian system doesn't let more people in by the way its designed, its by the way its limits are set.
If the UK has the exact same system but wants less people to come in...
Say keeping it exactly the same as the Australian system let's in 600k, well instead of requring 65 points for a visa. You set it to 75 points.
Then it less in less.
Say you aren't getting enough Migrants than you need, you set it to 55 points, and it let's in even more.
That's why it's favoured, becuse it's easy to control migration numbers this way, far easier than the current way of raising and lowering minimum wage requirements on tier 2 generals, but not on tier 2 ICT, or limiting some companies for the number of ICT visas they can give out but not A rated employers.
Just a simple system, with a simple number, meet it and you're in.
Don't exempt nurses, just give 40 points for being a nurse, if they then speak English they have enough points, come on in. Etc.
Your audio is VERY low, ads are shockingly loud in comparison. PLEASE fix this!
he does it on prupose!
Equalize loudness in sound settings and adblock..
@@ameyas7726 I guess it would solve my problem, but blocking ads goes right out of TLDR's paycheck
2:30 you say 2700 Visa per year cap when the Graphic shows 20,700 which is correct?
and what about the 2,400 (spoken) vs 240,000 (shown)
If that is right you picked up one I missed. 😊
I like the channel but the editing is appalling.
I am thinking of cancelling my subscription since they never answer people in the comments.
Answering comments would require another staff member, which might not be feasable (in terms of money), and a would be a hassle.
Not only would they need go be experienced and informed of the topic of the video, they need to know when to comment, and when to not, and how to reply (which is surprisingly hard).
They'd have to constantly refer with scriptwriters, animators and directors of these videos, and considering TL;DR's size (remember, they have several other social medias), it would take a long time.
I can agree that their edit is muddy at times, and occasionally off, but it's so miniscule, why bother complaining? They're pretty much doing well overall and are informative (and are fairly inpartial), so why worry about something so small?
(Also, their videos are almost daily. For a team that has to constantly research and as such, they're doing really well.)
The UK can use a North Korean style immigration system as well
Most us Brits know about Australia are Kangaroos and that TV show about how good their airport security is. Most of what the Tories are saying just sounds like standard 'protect mah borders' stuff using Australia to give voters glamorous visions of what they saw on the tele last Saturday
"I don't know" - Usually ends up being the answer when you analyze a political talking point with logic and nuance.
"i dont know", said no politician ever/
It's pandering to bigots - there is no logic...
is it 2,700 (spoken) or 20,700 (written)??
it's kinda confusing...
EricElsewhere ... 20,700 is correct atm
There were at least 2 more points where the text disagreed with the narrator... Also the way the speech changes abruptly makes me think that these guys aren't very good at editing and haven't heard of retakes...
there are always a lot of spelling mistakes and especially the audio edittng is a bit off (in this episode the (prerecorded) outro is much louder than the rest. a really simple thing to detect while editing
He made a mistake, he meant 20,700 but he mispoke
@@Valyssi The people who leave comments on this channel don't have any chill unfortunately
People have been sold that "australian immigration system is more tough, therfore better" for a very long time, without anybody actually explaining it: for example that's extremely popular in Italy as well. Conservatives are just jumping on the train for the election.
The UK’s limited public service and housing capacity is far better expended on the non-EU STEM experts we so desperately need than continued unlimited numbers of unskilled EU labour that we don’t.
It’s that simple, and if there are any salty little queue jumpers out there then no point crying about it. If you want to come to this fantastic country then get an education or a marketable skill. You’re competing with the rest of the world on a level playing field now, no more undue special treatment.
This is going to come and bite the tories slightly more as it comes to past and yes correct it just sounds good (clearly tories need to do their R&D)
Moses Jonson
No a proper breakdown of the numbers needs to be done for this video, it is oversimplifying things. See below the migration numbers in Australia in 2018.....
Net Overseas Migration by Visa Groupings and Australian Citizens............
Temporary visa holders were the majority of migrant arrivals (62%) and migrant departures (49%) in the year ending 30 June 2018.
There were 327,300 migrant arrivals on temporary visas including nearly 159,000 international students (30% of all migrant arrivals)
Arrivals on temporary work skilled visas decreased from a year ago by 19% to 26,600 people
Migrant departures on temporary visas increased by 8% to 141,400 people.
For permanent visa holders in 2018, migrant arrivals declined while migrant departures increased from one year earlier.
17% of all migrant arrivals were permanent visa holders
Permanent visa holders arriving decreased from a year ago to 87,900 people (down 17%)
Permanent visa holders departing increased from a year ago to 21,200 people (up 3%)
7% of all migrant departures were permanent visa holders.
For Australian and New Zealand citizens (who do not require a visa for migration to Australia), in the year ending 30 June 2018:
30,400 New Zealand citizens moved to Australia to live, however in the same year, 23,400 left Australia to live overseas
76,500 Australian citizens returned to Australia after living overseas but in the same year 90,600 decided to move overseas to live.
At first reading of the headline, I thought that the system was based on "style points' and thought, "I'll never be able to get in."
Hey TLDR, The reason why The Conservatives are mentioning Australia in their immigration policy is due to the perception of Australia as having ‘strong borders’ . This is due to Australia’s hardline policy towards ‘boat people’. People who came by boat and were put into offshore detention centres. The ‘stop the boats’ campaign during the 2013 AUS election. This has driven a perception and popular belief in the UK that Australia has somehow got a tougher immigration system absolutely. Which is untrue. I was rather surprised myself being an Australian, seeing Boris Championing our immigration system. Made no sense. I first thought he was going to open detention centres on the falklands & abuse human rights. But Australia was only tough or cruel on illegal arrivals specifically by boat, which was mostly a politically driven response rather then a rational or humane one. As you’ve pointed out, the Aus system is a bit more liberal than the Uk system in general.
The future success of the UK is dependent upon it adopting a meritocratic immigration system, something that is impossible whilst still a member of the European Union.
I wish the whole world had an unrestricted immigration policy, with the only requirements being that the immigrant is willing to work (if able and not retired), pay their way, obey the local laws and customs, and attempt to learn the local language, if different from their own.
Fortunately it isn't because that couldn't possibly work.
Not unless equality of opportunity was equal in every country in the word and there was a universal language.
The problem is that Australia is hugely dependent on the china economy which recently went through a mini recession. The government managed to keep things going by using huge amounts of investment. So why is this important for Aus at the mo. Well China exists in a huge bubble right now. When that thing crashes it's taking Canada and aus with it. Which means huge unemployment in those countries. Points based immigration is a short term answer to problems like poor education, declining middle class, having exported ur production/pollution and in general badly run government. Its side of rentier capitalism and globalism.
Nice to hear someone who's actually done their research talk about immigration for a change.
How do you know he has?
yeah, imigrayshun! as if no one has ever talked about this subject in the uk... bitch please! its like the number 1 most talked about and most overrated subject ever in brutish politics, ive even included srexit in this!
Calum Spencer this Video hasnt done a proper breakdown of the numbers and comparisons between the 2 countries, as well as what rights migrants have when they come in, also the effect of the EU free movement etc... it would be nice if they did a comparison for both..
@@jamesbuesnel5054 I think that is outside of what can be achieved in a sub 10 minute video. Also, I don't think the conditions placed on an immigrant once in the country (e.g. access to the welfare state or healthcare) are really tied to the system for admitting them in the first place.
Calum Spencer well that may be the case, but this has been oversimplified
No English requirement for football players. Ah, priorities!
The thing about the Australian system is that it operates on quotas, the points just determine who gets priority for a slot; so for example if they wanted to reduce it to say 50k a year all they'd have to do is make that the quota and the points system will automatically select the 50k most desirable applicants.
Well done, you managed to explain in one sentence what the filmmaker failed to do in 10 minutes.
Haha... so Australia is switching to our system and we want to switch to theirs? Great.
volume is soo low
This video has a few things wrong. First now australia is asking for 85 points which is too high. Second Australia is cutting down on refugees and is torture them. You can see what is happen in Manaus Island and Christmas Island. If you enter into Humans Right Watch you can see Australia all over the place not for the right thing. Please correct this
Time to learn about my own country ahhh hah
Why? Because they don't know anything about the current immigration system. I've heard other Canadians say they want a points-based system so that we don't get so many immigrants.
@Ginger i think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that i know anti-immigrant Canadians who say we should implement a points based system, not realizing that we've had one for longer than pretty much anyone else. In my experience, the anti-immigrant camp usually know very little about immigration and refugee law.
So its neither an Original Australian idea and it's worse according to the UKs same logic, letting in thousands more lol
Did BoJo and Nigel ever read throughly?
I like the idea of government funded English classes, and what they would ultimately turn into: lessons on being British.
Mandatory tea drinking lessons and opium smuggling to china?
The points based system is pointless if they are letting in a record high number of migrants from outside the EU
The title makes it sound like Australian immigration is based on Style Points.
there are pts. for style, for technical ability and for visual artistic impressions too!
"Australian Style" doesn't mean a carbon copy.
Most Migrants ending up in the same two places doesn't negate the fact that there's SO MUCH more space for the locals to spread out to.
So it's possible to use an Australian style system with a higher threshold and a set limit to reduce net migration.
Australia has also been criticized regularly by "globalists" that they don't accept "enough" migrants or refugees.
Where are their going to spread out? The desert that covers most of Australia?
Also, if you're gonna cap it anyways, wouldn't it be easier to set quotas and not bother with the points at all.
Also, who are the "globalists" that are complaining?
'Australia' is basically a code word for racism in the UK. Brits who say they want 'Australian-style' immigration system really mean they want no immigration or low immigration.
@1294DS its racist to want low immigration?
I've always wondered this !! I always knew that if the UK adopted the Austalia style immigration policy it would let in way more migrants than at the moment yet hardcore right wingers like Nigel Farage always push for this style of point system it always confused me. Either they are doing it because it sounds popular or they just generally are not educated on the topic
Nigel Farage wants a hard cap on the numbers, Boris has always been pro immigration and he’s trying to pull a fast one.
Whilst the Australian system allows in more migrants deemed as skilled or capable of bringing wealth, it also has a much harsher policy on asylum seekers or those that are not seen to meet the quotas of skill. The Australian Navy and Immigration Department has far greater authority to turn away or detain those seeking asylum and it is this aspect of their system that many right-wing parties across Europe admire.
@1294DS Indeed there is plenty of deception and fear tactics in use by the Australian Government and those governments that want to replicate their system. The Australian approach to asylum seekers is an extremely costly policy and really has no purpose other than making a political statement; that is why our media is not allowed to report on the conditions in these camps and those that try are threatened with prison time.
@@soulsphere9242 But these policies are not to control this unchecked immigration, but instead to raise fear in voters that there will be unchecked immigration if they do not vote for said party. The Australian Government has spent about $3.3B a year for the last six years to hold about 600 people in an offshore detention centre, about $5.5M per an asylum seeker. There is no sense to the policy and these policies are nothing but fear mongering. Based on latest official documentation, about 25,000 people migrate to the UK from the EU each year, which for a country of 66.4M does not seem like uncontrolled immigration.
Do you realize you are misreading your numbers? Love your channel and content. Keep up the good work.
The one difference you didn't cover in this is the lack of cap on the number of migrants in the AUS system. And I believe that is why the AUS system is appealing to these politicians because it restricts the KIND of people let in to a country rather than the number of people let in.
I feel like a brexit party member watching this video would go into some kind of shock.
You also could have mentioned that people holding a Tier 2 visa would currently have to pass the labour market test, meaning that they will only be given a visa if there is no British citizen that is as qualified as you that can take up the job.
An "Australian style points based system" seem like a cover for what Boris Johnson actually wants to do, which is most likely emulating the incredibly strict policies Australia has when it comes to illegal immigration and people smuggling.
The only reason why this is a thing is the "Airport security: Australia" show.
So fucking true its depressing 'Australia' = strict borders 🙄🙄
So our points based system will be like the Australian model, it doesn't mean that it's the same. Meaning we can use this to ensure that only certain trades and qualifications come in.
Also, from what countries do people emigrate to Aus? Are they the same nationalities that generally emigrate to the UK?
I'm going to hazard a guess not. Can you please clarify on this?
Something your video didn't expand on is the quality of migrants. If migrants going to Australia are more skilled and therefore benefit the economy more than those coming to the UK? This would make a significant difference to the systems rather than just looking at numbers.
1:38 You mention that Japan has an almost "totally restricted" system, but it's actually a PBS as well. Score high enough - they will basically give you a PR in a year. And anybody living here long enough (5+ years I believe) is eligible for naturalization, as long as you can pass an interview.
Is it just me or is this video's volume very low? I've got PC and YT volume at 100% each and it sounds like a whisper.
I think the real reason it is attractive to the Brexit Party and now the Conservative Party is not because of Australia's policy of letting in more skilled migrants, but because of their policy of keeping asylum seekers in detention or just turning them away from the border if they do not meet these skilled quotas. Italy is a nation that more recently with the victory of their right-wing parties has started implementing what it has called an "Australian style immigration system" which takes greater advantage of their navy to turn away immigrants and has opened up more detention centres to hold the asylum seekers that aren't turned away immediately. So I believe it is these aspects of Australia's policy that has gained Conservative approval.
One thing you didn't mention about the UK points based system is that they also have massive financial requirements for most Visa's beyond tier 5. You also didn't mention family visa (partners and parents visas) which are to a point financial blackmail for the parent not from that country if they are not financially stable. I come from Canada a commonwealth nation which you mentioned is the 1st points based system and one of the easiest in the world to get into and like you said we have alot of mediocre applicants. The UK's points based system is hard to pass unless you're a skilled worker with a job to fill or your a business owner with some 250k capital. The UK system is ludicrous and I've been caught up and away from my child for over 2 years and have waited 1 year of that just for a trial for my evidence to be looked at by a 3rd party judge because home office actually choose not to look at my evidence. The UK needs reform because it only lets in those that are going to make them money or work on their infrastructure. They don't care about parents or children separated from each other. We are the most rejected visas.
Who wants those badges? Seems like TLDR bought too many and needs to get rid of them.
You should also note that each of these visa costs listed here do not include the NHS fee which must be paid BEOFRE being considered for a visa. 1 year ago this cost was 200£ per year, which was raised recently to 400£ per year, and which the Tory government has pledged to raise to over 600£ per year.
Further financial stipulations apply to each visa such as you much have a certain amount of money in your bank account upon applying. Which changes depending on the Visa and if you have dependents etc.
I think it's popular simply because it's transparent and easy to understand. Immigration is an issue has a ton of rumors about shortcuts, back doors and other rumors. Point based system makes it easier to say, "Na that's not worth enough points".
As terrible as the Canadian/Australian system sounds, it's at least more sensible than the U.S. system, especially post-2016.
I think what some are missing is it will stop non skilled EU members and refugees who become EU citizens in the future freely entering the UK with there families for as long as they want?. Most of what's talked about here is temporary Visas but the AU points system really addresses the more permeant migrants which are classed as "permanent residents" and until they have proven they can become Australian Citizens (if they want to become Australian Citizens) basically on a whole you need 5 years service and contribution to Australia to become a Citizen, know and understand the Australian constitution "in English" and pledge an oath of allegiance "in English" (the reason Australia allocates so much money to the English language education). A migrant wanting to become a Citizen needs to spend at least 3 of any 5 year period (pro rata) in Australia with a collective 5 years and a permanent resident cannot leave Australia without a return entry visa which only lasts for 5 years. If a permeant resident stays out of Australia for longer than 5 years or does not renew their resident return visa "in Australia" they loose their permeant resident status and need to re emigrate or use visitor visas same as anyone else. To renew a resident return visa a resident needs to have spent at least 2 years of any 5 within Australia as apposed to 3 in any 5 for citizenship.
There are and always will be loopholes and money speaks but Migrants can no longer get benefits such as old age pension unless they have contributed to the Australian economy, this is to stop family reunion visas putting a strain on the economy and health benefit system. If you want to bring your elderly parents into Australia on a family reunion status because they cant pass the points system you have to have and prove financial means to support them.
I am an Australian migrant and an Australian citizen and I can honestly say that more than 50 percent of Born Australians would struggle to pass the Australian points system, this would defiantly be true of UK and EU citizens trying to pass BJ,s Australian style points system. lol
People complaining about immigration should go forth and emigrate to another country and you may even improve your lifestyle!
10:16 MY EARS.
Please level your volumes. I love your content, but your volumes are all over the place both regarding different videos as well as within a single video.
Using Audacity (free): remove noise, normalize, compress, EQ.
Audio levels sound really low.
Your video misses one ppint... Adoption of an Australian System, doesn't mean adoption of Australian migration thresholds...
So where is the policy that actually would reduce the thresholds?
I get that you want to compare "per capita" numbers, but that is a bit ridiculous when you look at the population density of Australia vs UK
If the Australian immigration system achieves what it's intended to achieve, why does the country see so many individuals demanding that immigration be reduced?
They are fascies.
Can you do a video on the IR35 tax legislation? I've noticed this week that, lib dems, labour and SNP are saying they're are looking to reform, review or scrap this. Might be an attempt to sway 4.3 million contractors.
Great content as always.
It's not going to happen. They say it will, then they will renege on it.
@@Nickle314 I think it's something similar to what the torries promised before. It's a conversation though. Interesting to know examples of policies the party jump on and the never follow through with
This video is so wrong. You are comparing Australian's permanent residency system vs UK's work visa system. Australia also has separate employer-led work visas! The main difference is actually that people in the UK can automatically get permanent residency if they work or study long enough. On the other hand, people in Australia need to get enough points to be a permanent resident, even if you have worked for ten years in Australia.
For example, New Zealand citizens have free access to Australia. However, they still need to go through the point-based system to become a resident, no matter how long you have been living in Australia.
Consistent mistakes and low audio, sort yourself out man
the aussie figure are skewed because new zealanders can get in without any points
I am from Australia, I don't think this video provides a proper breakdown of the numbers. This is a proper breakdown in 2018 for us below. I think it would help if you did something similar for the UK. It is quite hard to come to Australia, just because you have the minimum points needed it doesnt guarantee anything. It was lifted form 60-65 I think realistically you need 70-75 to even be considered... Dutton wants to decrease the numbers also, it depends what government is in power and their policy. Then you are competing with thousands of applicants every year.. I think it does help if you have a state nominated visa :
........Net Overseas Migration by Visa Groupings and Australian Citizens............
Temporary visa holders were the majority of migrant arrivals (62%) and migrant departures (49%) in the year ending 30 June 2018.
There were 327,300 migrant arrivals on temporary visas including nearly 159,000 international students (30% of all migrant arrivals)
Arrivals on temporary work skilled visas decreased from a year ago by 19% to 26,600 people
Migrant departures on temporary visas increased by 8% to 141,400 people.
For permanent visa holders in 2018, migrant arrivals declined while migrant departures increased from one year earlier.
17% of all migrant arrivals were permanent visa holders
Permanent visa holders arriving decreased from a year ago to 87,900 people (down 17%)
Permanent visa holders departing increased from a year ago to 21,200 people (up 3%)
7% of all migrant departures were permanent visa holders.
For Australian and New Zealand citizens (who do not require a visa for migration to Australia), in the year ending 30 June 2018:
30,400 New Zealand citizens moved to Australia to live, however in the same year, 23,400 left Australia to live overseas
76,500 Australian citizens returned to Australia after living overseas but in the same year 90,600 decided to move overseas to live.
A country could have a points based migration system, but set the points threshold to where it gets the desired amount and quality of migrants. The system itself doesn’t define how much people gets in.
So if the UK end up with an immigration system that is based off of the Australian and Canadian systems, maybe there also should a process to make people to move easier between those countries.
please make the volume more in line with the ads! have to turn it way up to hear the video and then the ads are shocking!
Very informative. Thanks!
So from my understanding, Boris doesn't actually know anything about our current immigration? Boz this is like your main thing at least do that much.
Probably the part where Australia dumps asylum seekers in Nauru and Papua New Guinea for offshore processing.
It’s a good system.
As someone on a Tier 2 visa allow me to make some slight corrections. I have applied for my visa in 2018 and there was no salary cap of 30K (I’m currently getting paid much less actually). Instead there are salary caps for various professions based on a 40 hour week according to appendix J of the immigration rules. The 30K salary cap instead applies to those who wish to apply for an indefinite leave to remain (the UK’s green card equivalent) through a professional route.
Also fun fact: people on all type tier visas are required to pay an NHS surcharge when applying despite paying their full taxes, thanks to Theresa May’s government...
How did you get the tier 2 visa
The audio on this one could have done with a listen back and tidy up, but all in all great content!
Really enjoy the content here but often there are annoying editorial errors where one graphic block another or, in this case, the graphic says £20,700 but the voice says £2,700. Its like you guys aren't proof checking the video. Would love to see this get straightened out guy. Overall though youve made brexit so much easier to digest. Well done!
"If you got 8 or more years of skilled work experience, you can score 20 points if that experience was in Australia"
That's... why I'm here
Who does the UK want in and who does the UK want to kick out? How is the UK going to be more attractive to workers it wants in than it currently is?
And I hope there is New Zealand style election system?
It is actually German style election system.
Well, the Halls of Power says no.
@@kamanashiskar9203 two party system is so evil
This may sound stupid, but why do visas need to be "employer led" of have exemptions. Why not just add "have a job offer" as a thing you get points for.
Too quiet; didn't listen...
I know this is not politically correct. But the British will accept any immigration system which will not render them a minority in their own country.
Not likely to happen as immigrants make up a much smaller amount of the UK population. Also, does your comment only extend to white people? Does that include people of Irish decent?
If they use a point base system. Then they can genuinely deny visas. Increase the pass mark and requirements can basically deny lots of visas. So I think they really know what they are talking about.
The average person will not recognize what they want to do.
Thanks for the good explanation video. It was time someone shed some light on this topic, there is a lot of misinformation out there and people basing their argumentation on missing or wrong facts.
Of course they can used it without any problems. However, they must be extremely open in the criteria for legal immigration and zero tolerance for ilegal one
Why? It will get them votes from ex UKIP voters.
I suggest making an extension of this video explaining the different in statuses you get in Canada, Australia, UK and in EU (PR vs visa).
That is a huge difference.
Once you land in Canada after passing their *immigration* system - you're a permanent resident, you can work wherever you like without any work permits.
In UK, Australia it doesn't work like that.
Audio in this episode was really quiet. It jumps back to normal for the boulet plate end segment that is put on everything, but the video specific audio was normalized too low..
I read Farage policy proposals to learn future Tory policy.
Australians and Canadians are on track for becoming minorities in their own cities. That's a good thing of course.
I think it's because it sounds good. Though it's not just BoJo, isn't Corbs backing it too??
the thing you do not exactly point out the (Aussie labour) plan to increase visa's was unpopular (among Aussies.)
Very informative, i didnt know this about britains system
Why are the charity badges African countries mostly? Are there no charities in the UK and other European countries?
Honestly, how can you compare North Korea with Japan, which has plenty of foreigners? Japan's immigration system is not much different from that of any developed nation. Do your research instead of basing it off preconceived assumptions.
@Ginger 97.8%, actually. And much more in bigger cities. Still different than North Korea's probably 99.9999%.
@Ginger Also, just because there are less foreigners doesn't necessarily mean it's because the immigration system is tougher. Maybe less people want to live there? Maybe the language hurdle is tougher?
Seriously, good luck finding an Australian that likes our immigration system. Most of us hate it. Because of capital flight out of China, our cities are now some of the most expensive in the world and whilst we do generally earn roughly 3x what you do in the UK, our prices more than make up for it.
We are getting flooded by Syrians.
You say 2,700 for something but the number on screen is 20,700. Just letting you know.
Tthey don’t want the Australian points system, they was an Australian style system which means you can tweak the requirements and values to reduce immigration.
you only need too compare, gogglebox ireland-australia with UK, on the cultural differences over migration and immigration...
A few things to take into account with Australia's immigration system though.
1. We are neighbours to a lot of second and third world countries that are on average far poorer or atleast has poorer people than in Australia so there are a lot more people willing to immigrate here for a chance at a better life.
2. Immigration has always been a big part of Australia's population growth as we have a relatively small population for so much land and with easy access to birth control and higher levels of sexual education, our birth rates are a bit on the low side so the high immigration helps to offset that.
3. A large reason for tightening the immigration lately has also been Australia's (and I know Canada has this problem too) severe housing crisis where due to the large growth in population size housing demand is so high that many Australain Nationals that live in the cities and are looking for a first or new home are almost locked out of the housing market and are forced to move because they can't afford any place. I live in a boom town which recently came out of its boom and with such a mass exodus of population (workers leaving because the bulk of the work is now gone) the housing prices plummeted at the same time the rest of Australia was starting to find houses unaffordable. Within a few years most of those houses have been filled by people (generally low income) flooding in for the affordable homes.
TLDR should do more content on Australia👍🏻
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