Should an ESPN & NFL deal be allowed to happen?; Was the NFL on Peacock just the beginning?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
  • Meadowlark Media CEO John Skipper and Nothing Personal's David Samson are back with another episode with host of Pablo Torre Finds Out ... Pablo Torre! Welcome to the Sporting Class! The NFL could invest into ESPN... what exactly does that mean? What would the NFL get out of this? What would ESPN get out of this? (20:25) The NFL exclusive playoff game on Peacock was the most streamed event in US history. Was this a win? Is the future now? Hope you've got a strong internet connection! (33:45) Regional Sports Networks are on life support. Is Amazon its Dr. Frankenstein? Let’s discuss. (48:00) ESPN had a problem with the Emmys. Real Emmys for fake people. It led to some firings, but was it really a big deal?
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  • @demonhogo
    @demonhogo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    pablo quickly became the best podcaster on meadowlark

    • @jerryminta9678
      @jerryminta9678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Low bar

    • @scottstyles1986
      @scottstyles1986 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤢

    • @universe-ie2mk
      @universe-ie2mk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I havent heard pablo in a while. He's ok but dan is still the best

    • @pocketacessuited
      @pocketacessuited 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hes great, great addition.

    • @jerryminta9678
      @jerryminta9678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pocketacessuited paid promotion 👏

  • @fexcab
    @fexcab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I want to see the venn diagram of folks who watched Sports Reporters as a kid on ESPN and now watch this show in their 40s.

  • @scionnole
    @scionnole 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Meadowlark has an uncut gem with these three discussing sports business. Make it a weekly pod and throw in an occasional guest. Fireworks

  • @bemaod
    @bemaod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This was a great conversation! Was the room too small for a wide camera shot? I've never been a fan of all the separate panels.

  • @LaCheeserie
    @LaCheeserie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A paywall and/or PPV Super Bowl is perfect stage for hackers to compete to see who can break in. The question is what they will do? Go extreme, offensive, silly, or smart funny.

  • @spoonani
    @spoonani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This might be one of the best business segments going anywhere right now.
    minor additive detail on why linear cable subs care: they are getting squeezed from both sides (rate increases and less content as more moves to streaming-only). Skipper hit it in a previous show about how traditional cable was the best value in entertainment.

    • @TahiriVeila13ABY
      @TahiriVeila13ABY 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For someone who doesn't care about watching live sports (highlights are fine for me) Cable was not a better value. I can get Netflix, Max, Hulu, D+, Prime, Paramount+, Peacock and Apple TV+ for a bit less than the cable package I had 20 years ago. I can get all those for half of what I was paying when I cut the cord in 2019 (and It wasn't even a the top tier package). I could add a couple things sports related on to all those streaming services and It would still be cheaper than cable.

  • @SaltySac1999
    @SaltySac1999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Need this trio and their discussions more often. Meadowlark with another one!!!!

  • @F_E_A_Rise
    @F_E_A_Rise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Fascinating insights on American sports 'products', corporate governance in sports business and media, and all the power dynamics in-between! 🤓

    • @mkhanman12345
      @mkhanman12345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Revenue and merchandise

  • @Go4Yourz
    @Go4Yourz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I love listening in on the discussion of sports and business

    • @mkhanman12345
      @mkhanman12345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tv revenue and merch

  • @Bruss813
    @Bruss813 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love these segments!

  • @renaldolawson228
    @renaldolawson228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gotta have Pablo and Samson sit next to each other so that Skipper doesn't look like he's watching a tennis match all show.

  • @Realcool1525
    @Realcool1525 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love these type of conversations. You 3 should do a podcast about this subject more often

  • @wonkguy
    @wonkguy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love how these two media executives conveniently forget that all these teams and leagues play their games in publicly financed stadiums that share no revenues with the communities in which they are located. That financing piece includes federal exemptions for the municipal bonds so that means we are all paying for these flashy stadiums and their upkeep. So excuse me if I think even though I live in NYC that I'm a little entitled to watch a playoff game between the Chiefs and Dolphins without opening up my wallet again.

    • @TreeHouseClubTV
      @TreeHouseClubTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I live in ny. And that's ridiculous. My entire family consists of dolphins fans. The pay wall is up for every game except primtime and jets. This is nothing new.

    • @MiamiPepe
      @MiamiPepe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's up to the local politics to approve such deals. VOTE.

    • @dorothygale1104
      @dorothygale1104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TreeHouseClubTV I feel sorry that you live in a city / state that can’t say no to using taxpayer funds to subsidize stadiums for the financial benefit of billionaire owners. In California, the vast majority of pro sports venues in the state were 100% privately finance without a cent of public subsidy. The honor roll of California teams that privately financed their venues includes the: Dodgers ( Dodger Stadium), Lakers / Kings (Staples Center), Clippers ($2B Intuit Dome to be completed later this year), Rams / Chargers ($5B SoFi Stadium), Giants (Oracle Park), 49ers (Levi’s Stadium), Warriors (Chase Center), and three 20,000+ seat MLS stadiums. In addition to California taxpayers not paying a cent to construct these venues, they comprise one of the best collection of sports venues in the world.
      Supporting taxpayer subsidies for a pro sports venue is a sure way for a California politician to get booted out of office.

  • @leondarnell1
    @leondarnell1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great show...VERY informative...

  • @jovantemusic68
    @jovantemusic68 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show, love these talks!

  • @willwalker474
    @willwalker474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Adding to Pablo's point about the belief of people thinking that the NFL is an extension of civic institution: the success of the NFL over its history is in fact due to its relationship to civic contract. The regional support to a team and its identity, the taxes that subsidize stadiums and practice facilities and other infrastructure, the federal subsidies and protections the NFL benefits from, etc. It's not entirely ridiculous for people to have a visceral reaction to having games behind a paywall. My point isn't comprehensive, but I think it's completely understandable that people are told all of the time how the NFL and its teams need these subsidies and tax dollars and protections because of how they stimulate the economy, and then on the other hand be expected to just accept every time the NFL tries to squeeze every last dollar out of everyone. Of course, as a business, if you give them a lane they're gonna take it, but it's not nothing that people feel as though they're violating a social contract.

    • @dorothygale1104
      @dorothygale1104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The public subsidy of sports venues is a very rare occurrence in California, as the Dodgers, Lakers / Kings, Clippers, Rams / Chargers, Giants, 49ers, Warriors & 3 MLS teams all play in stadiums that were 100% privately financed with not a cent of public subsidy.

  • @jaycepero8069
    @jaycepero8069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll take it further. ESPN has no business being in gambling. They can push the lines of games via their analysts. How they're allowed to do that is beyond me.

  • @mileschennells
    @mileschennells 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the most insightful discussion ❤

  • @SUscottie
    @SUscottie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not paying for Peacock. Just surged the sports myself ;)

  • @DXAdamJensen
    @DXAdamJensen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am a fan of this podcast. I only have one issue. I wish Pablo would put more production value in this podcast just as he does with Pablo Torre Finds Out. This podcast has like no intro or ending. Just a hard opening and cut

    • @Bild0zer
      @Bild0zer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No nonsense, straight to business?

    • @dalehodges5362
      @dalehodges5362 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me it's all about that Bass line. It set me right.

  • @maximusaviationchannel
    @maximusaviationchannel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John Skipper always Does the best lines.. "ERR" has the best lines. 🤣

  • @dalehodges5362
    @dalehodges5362 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You 3 rock our information genes.

  • @hyahhytes6388
    @hyahhytes6388 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BEST TRIO DISCUSSING SPORTS BUSINESS AND IT'S INTRICACIES

  • @isiah675
    @isiah675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weren't the viewership numbers ballooned with local markets and potentially some other funky number counting?

  • @SickLiq
    @SickLiq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, this is some interesting high level, inside-baseball(pun?) shit. Can't get enough.

  • @ghostdog5187
    @ghostdog5187 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like I’m gonna have more time on my hands😂

  • @mayhemnbc22
    @mayhemnbc22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the jetblue spirit take.

  • @salahalamoudi7718
    @salahalamoudi7718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes sense... ESPN is the market leader and is best positioned between cable and streaming. Consolidate the fragmented viewership

  • @curtisbowles9894
    @curtisbowles9894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the free market and if a private business has a product that the consumer will buy.....nothing wrong with that.

  • @Mike-bo1oj
    @Mike-bo1oj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know who would make sense to buy a stake or take control of ESPN it would be Netflix. They can take ESPN+ to another level.

  • @Intabih
    @Intabih 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If a game goes PPV do the commercials go away? Do the players now have to play straight minutes without the commercial breaks?

    • @renaldolawson228
      @renaldolawson228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hell no. All the PPV stuff still has commercials within the breaks.

  • @kenray767
    @kenray767 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a good talk

  • @christerrell6575
    @christerrell6575 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ESPN would take money from anyone right now. They already are in bed w Penn gaming, so by proxy the NFL will be in bed w a gambling company

  • @hoodyplz
    @hoodyplz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't he literally cancel a show because the NFL told them to? I actually loved that show too

  • @mariodamico3282
    @mariodamico3282 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great conversation. Less great camera work.

  • @anastasianeketa6853
    @anastasianeketa6853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Throw in Dominique to the group and it's gold

  • @alexperez936
    @alexperez936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Everytime I hear the old guy talk I think of the guy from Timmy turned

  • @Jim-kz4zo
    @Jim-kz4zo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aren't they both owned by Draft Kings?

  • @EBR846
    @EBR846 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me guess, let me guess, let me guess..Samson is basically fine with the NFL investing in ESPN.

  • @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
    @BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ah yes, David Samson, noted authority on all things "left-leaning".
    If Biden is left wing, I'm Che Guevara himself

  • @sheba19
    @sheba19 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    26:45 For him to say that people are upset because they felt entitled to watch the game is so out of touch. People are upset because this is going the way of boxing where boxing made everything pay-per-view and split between different channels

  • @googleboo9876
    @googleboo9876 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This should never happen and should be illegal. Why are you the only ones talking abt this?

  • @deaddropholiday
    @deaddropholiday 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the public shouldn't have the right to access the NFL .... fine. Just don't be asking to use insanely expensive resources WE pay for to defend the nation (as well as a host of other services) to prop up the sport.

  • @whowantstorunforpresident5531
    @whowantstorunforpresident5531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah, the nuances of selling out in late stage capitalism

    • @oaktree1626
      @oaktree1626 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What's your definition of selling out? People tend to fit it to whatever they dislike.

  • @righteouslydefiant5362
    @righteouslydefiant5362 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why would the NFL piss money away by investing in ESPN?? The network television viewership crowd is getting smaller every day

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exclusive/bias coverage and business collective that will likely be a paywall.
      Money. Money is always the answer.

    • @breakingreactions942
      @breakingreactions942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No it's not

  • @americasevilgenius
    @americasevilgenius 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the industry often overvalues the desire that sports fans have for "journalism" on ESPN. Fans want to see games, highlights of games they missed, and some degree of analysis of the upcoming games. We don't want Woodward and Bernstein trying to run around and find scandals or work against the sports as we've always known them and enjoyed them.

  • @Bman32x
    @Bman32x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Super Bowl will be app exclusive behind a pay wall in less that 2 years.

    • @LaCheeserie
      @LaCheeserie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How far out is it currently contracted?

  • @salahalamoudi7718
    @salahalamoudi7718 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ... Conflict argument is dead... NFL always had sway and they already have NFL media lol...

  • @rapalbumdepot7648
    @rapalbumdepot7648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Too much NFL- everywhere and all the time coverage of pro football is gross

  • @colefrawley1845
    @colefrawley1845 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only show on Le Batard network that does not involve Le Batard smelling his own fumes.....Stugotz, Samson , and Skipper are solid though

  • @eriksorg190
    @eriksorg190 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Skipper looks like he's still doing coke

  • @usoantz
    @usoantz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First

  • @bigtopsteve
    @bigtopsteve 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For a couple of smart guys they say a bunch of dumb shit.

  • @reason18
    @reason18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can't they get someone less horrific than pablo?