Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Notion: notion.com/startups to get up to $1000 off team plan - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off - Blinkist: blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium - Athletic Greens: athleticgreens.com/lex and use code LEX to get 1 month of fish oil 1:18 - KGB 14:09 - Communism 33:10 - Childhood 39:57 - Becoming a KGB agent 1:18:30 - Training 1:32:19 - Language 1:38:10 - Moscow 1:53:11 - Spying 2:10:09 - Putin 2:13:01 - War in Ukraine 2:24:28 - Putin in the KGB 2:31:21 - Yuri Bezmenov 2:41:59 - FSB and CIA 2:49:49 - Putin and Zelenskyy 2:58:39 - Quitting the KGB 3:24:57 - Love and regrets 3:33:10 - Mortality
Lex, someday you should interview a specialist on nuclear weapons and how they work. Both the technicalities (which can be known as far as the information is declassified) and the actual functioning of the decision-making behind it.
Glad I took the time to watch this. Sorry to say it, but this is my first encounter with Lex and his podcast. I honestly don’t know who impressed me more. I’ll also say, as proud of a man that Jack spent a lifetime to become, I loved his humility and honor to be corrected in his line of thinking at one point in the interview and even made a point to retract one of his comments. Only God can change a heart! What a story, thanks for sharing it with us.
I confronted my Russian teacher on communism. He told me that democracy and freedom were just an illusion. No matter what I told him, he wouldn't change his mind.
Being born in a country that does not exist anymore (GDR) in 1982 close to the chzech border and being raised in a household that defeated the Stasi, listening to this really gave me shivers. I’m a huge fan of you and your podcast, Lex. I spend nights and nights listening to it and I would have never guessed that sb. would mention the city I live in and love for the past 20 years. The city of Jena! The “student club” that Jack mentioned still exists. The people you talk to and the compassion you have are extraordinary. Thank you! If you ever come to this part of the world you have someone who would love to show you around and tell stories or listening to you. Keep up the good work. 9 July 2022 - 4 am - Jena, Germany
Lex is humble and not obnoxious or dominant like many podcasters! He comes across as sympathetic to his guests, non-threatening yet very deeply knowledgeable and conversational on the subject matter in question.
Although he often interrupts his guests and interjects with useless anecdotal "words of wisdom" that are neither profound nor necessary. Just a minor annoyance. Otherwise I like him
Been fascinated by Lex as a person and turns out im so blessed and grateful that Lex is just as fascinated by people himself, and has the chance to interview those people and then some. Can't wait for Lex to interview Putin!! It better happen
Lex Fridman sets a very high standard to follow. He's prepared, knowledgeable and very intelligent. It is very hard to listen to another podcast after listening to Lex. God bless you Lex Fridman.
He's also humble and not obnoxious like many podcasters! He comes across as sympathetic to his guests, non-threatening yet very deeply knowledgeable and conversational on the subject matter in question..
Plus he is no slouch. He seems to think highly enough to dress well; which is a sign of respect to his platform and his guests, and to himself (imho). Refreshing to see some sense of formality in this culture of t-shirt you tube channels.
This gentleman is fascinating. I don't know how so much people waste their lives watching trash shows on tv or netflix when you can enjoy this incredible real histories from so interesting people.
I skipped reading papers and studying just because this conversation absorbed me. It made me reflect on my own life and I can't believe we have access to these stories. Precious.
You have current access to the stories. "Current". Once liberal TH-cam is done with stories like this, this story, & the MANY others like it, will be but a whisper in a bullet-ridden alleyway between two winos, too over-the-hill to do much of anything.
Jack telling his story about his last moments as kgb agent and describing in detail what he was going through was honestly more immersive and captivating that any spy could ever pull off
This is an engrossing life story for sure. Jack makes no attempt to sugar-coat his early ambition and thirst for the high life, which fueled his induction into the spy world and commitment to his training all of which he recalls in lucid detail. The manner in which he recounts his life is charming and infused with good-natured wit and honest insight. I have to infer that this humanist outlook had to be suppressed considerably after he became a real-life steely James Bond type. I am glad that he realized in the end that he is storyteller at heart, or did I just imagine he said that? No matter, I will listen again down the line or read more. Well done, Lex and Jack. 3m views!
@@veteranphilosopher Hi, thx for the response. Hardly ever happens, probably because I'm too wordy. I subscribed to your podcast and look forward to checking it out. Cheers
@@cutkicker Haha. Ja, well, sounds a bit like a blurb, I know! I do tend to voice support, out of solidarity usually, for my fellow former communists, It can take years to purge an old ingrained religion - even a phony one (just ask ex-Scientologists!). Meanwhile, developing a new mental framework that hopefully won’t be as shockingly kaput as the old one is an even greater challenge. Summing up, I am simply in awe at the sophistication of the Weltanschauung that Jack has developed in this regard.
I really enjoy watching Lex. Half the time I feel like he's drunk. 😂 I know he's not, but just the way he speaks. This is one of the most confident and engaging conversations I've seen him in. I can tell he was totally geeking out. And what a life this man has lived.
This man’s description of the loss of his first love must bring back everyone who heard it, back to their own first love and loss… that loss for most is absolutely devastating if you’re the one on the losing end.
@@tomcarey5156 Only if you’re fool enough to live in your own misery… everything that happens today will be yesterday tomorrow. It’s best not to live in the past.
This episode has been genuinely the most entertaining, intriguing and exciting three hours of discussion I’ve listened to in a good while. Both great communicators who have a passion for good debate and storytelling. I haven’t listened to much of Lex’s podcasts but I’m now hooked 😍
This was my first time watching him, and I'm hooked... I love to learn about other countries and people that could come in handy one day. This is great to be able to hold such a deep conversation on this lvl... These two Men are extremely knowledgeable...
Lol this dude is a fraud. Yuri Bezmenov was the real deal. I mean just close your eyes when you listen to them and tell me which one sounds like a KGB agent and which one sounds like see eye aye 😅
Lex's knowledge and interviewing/interrogation skills really shined here. I don't think there's many others in the media/podcast world better suited to interview Barsky. This was excellent.
This was such an interesting interview! My parents were both from Germany, My father from the Dresden area in eastern Germany and my Mother from the Koln / Bonn area in the West, so I could relate with Jack and understand what his driving forces were. Thank goodness he has two beautiful children here in the U.S..he didn’t mention if he was still with his wife or nor but he is very insightful and I wish him a long healthy life.🌟
There is NOTHING nuanced about it...its 100 percent America good Russia bad. Its utterly pro US war drive...its ignores Assange, Snowden Hales etc totally...it ignores Russiagate and its use to destroy democracy and advance the imperial agenda.
Maybe he could also do a "nuanced" conversation on Hitler and WW2. Maybe German expansionism wasn't all that bad, eh? He was fighting his bias about mother Russia so hard here, that's why it seemed "nuanced". If the USSR and the KGB were somewhat incompetent in terms of espionage and propaganda, current Russia is a big joke. Or it would be if they weren't killing hundreds of thousands of people in a country that just wanted to be left alone. Just like all of those eastern European countries, formerly in the Soviet block couldn't run faster towards the NATO.
Lex I just listened to this podcast on Spotify. This is easily one of my all time favorite discussions you've had. What an interesting and engaging guy Jack is. You asked great questions as well. Great interview👍👍
This has by far been one of the most interesting podcasts to date! Really amazing story that even the men in the shadows have hearts and love. It is what truly makes us human.
You have oh so many great interviews, Lex, but I think this one is my favorite. I often revisit it because it's a great story that provides so hope and clarity for me in these trying times. Thanks for being a great person Mr. Friedman.
I worked in Navy intelligence for 20 years. People don't understand how boring most of it is. I saw a comment on his book... "there's no action". Yup. That's 99% of it
The moment you grow old is the moment you understand that most of life is fucking boring, don't forget that our goal in life is to eat, reproduce and die, everything's in between is just a filler to avoid the void
I started to listen to this conversation at 1am, not knowing what I would get into.... 4am just flew by and I don't know how I will get out of bed in a few hours. Worth it !!! Thank you for this captivating life story, a story I can relate to on some minor levels.
One thing that really annoys me about TH-cam is auto play. I've read this from others to, but when it often will select videos you've already watched, even several times. Perhaps infinite. However, this particular episode has come on I think 4 times now. Each time it has I can't turn it off. Possibly one of the most pleasant episodes out of any podcasts to date. Very engaging. Very beautiful
same same on all that..i wasn't gonna comment but since you did, ya..is annoying and ya, i find myself leaving it play if i don't have others in que..and in case eye's watchin me for whatever reasons they find assigned to this is dan wessels of the UAMAC covert unit and again," it's not classified" & if i determine it's a threat against 'we the people' I will bring it up as matter of civic duty somewhere, always when crosses my radar. ...dlw sui-juris,III%
I've been reading The Spy and The Traitor about Oleg Gordiewsky and I've been fascinated by espionage and counterintelligence. Interviewing a former KGB spy is a window into another world and I really appreciate having this perspective.
This podcast Lex and these discussions are worth more than gold.... becoming priceless. I didn't even need to buy the book (though I should). I heard about this guy somewhere else but this discussion with you being Russian and then he being an older man... it's such an amazing meeting. --- For every 100 nonsensical videos on YT, there's 1 Lex podcast.
I just discovered him through my neighbor. Who was listening to a podcast and I had to ask who & this was who. I’m like oh ya thank u new podcast to watch/listen to as well as learn from. -a pro talker and question asker who lived trying not to ask questions by teachers to fam members who now knows I can make a career out of it. I finally realized… “does Oprah talk too much?” Maybe but that’s her CAREER WHY CAN IT NOT BE MINE????!!!!!!!!! My strength can be my weakness too Or a weakness can also be a great Strength Haha Freud is ridiculous
i’ve watched this the past few days before work and before bed and i’ve enjoyed every second! it’s so amazing to listen to two well spoken people that bounce off of eachother so well! journalism like this is so very important! Thank you❤️
Lex Fridman, master of dry humor. At the end of a 3 1/2 hour conversation: "Well, life does eventually come to an end." Barsky (sounding fatigued): "Yes, as does this conversation I guess." "No, this goes on for many more hours..."
She should have been more of a mom. Been there, done that. My father died June 24th. We bury him on Tuesday the 12th. In my case good father, bad mother.
@@77Infidel sorry for your loss... My family story is complicated.. but it seems like those who should love us most are often times the same people who hurt us the most.. ♡ I cant say it gets easier but I can say it does gets easier to cope with as the years pass.. ♡
You are doing a good job and providing a nessacery service. Im saying that as an English man from the UK 🇬🇧 we dont have the same transparency in this country in the courts and certainly don't have the same rights. You are privileged to live in a country like you do thank you sir.
There was a new recruit for the KGB He was brought in for his final exam to become an agent He was told for his final test he had to chug a liter of Vodka then he had to fight a bear and after he had to make love to a Russian Super Model The commanding officer handed him the vodka he guzzled it down then the officer pointed to a room and said "The bear is in there" so the recruit entered, and what followed was 45 minutes of yelling and screaming and roars and crashing and banging sounds until finally, the recruit emerged from the room, sweating and panting, his clothes all ripped and torn, and he said "Ok, now where is that Super Model I have to fight?"
Phenomenal conversation Lex. Perfect guest, theme, intonation, cadence and timing throughout the whole convo. Growing up in one of ex Yugoslavia's republic, losing family members during war for independence in Croatia during 90's., that whole post 2nd world war period (starting in 90's with Soviet "disintegration"), made a HUGE AND POSITIVE impact on my world view and EMPATHY for others.
Lex, I continue to be impressed with your long form interviews. You do an amazing job directing and facilitating interesting conversations and do so without getting in the way. Thank you for continuing to publish your magnificent work.
I so loved the ‘Moscow’ section! First hand experience from people who are still alive. All these recollections are so interesting for understanding of the era. We need more on it. Can we get part two with Jack?
There is so much to learn from these amazing guests, who hold their tongues and wait patiently while Lex gives his opinions on the space where these experts are the top of the game. I’m always amazed by this, and it’s really the one thing that binds every interview together. There must be something about human excellence that gives these masters that control.
At least it wasn’t Bustamante again and why do they show you stuff you’ve watched already. I guess it’s just good old fashion force feed indoctrination.
It happend again ending up here on that video. This time vivid dream and lucid dreams about being caught up becoming in a Chinese triads member (a yakuza) in Paris. Crazy. Felt like hours and woke up approximately around the same hour. Weirdest thing : it's like I learnt a lot about that yakuza thing. Counting my fingers right now
That’s so funny that he says he overcame shyness moving to the American South. I’ve experienced that to a large extent spending time in Georgia and driving through the Deep South. It’s much easier for me to say hello to strangers now and have small talk. Big difference coming from South Florida, and broke stereotypes too as to how I would be treated, being Latino.
Ha! I had the inverse, spending a little time in the American South shied my boisterous self up REAL quick. - Mixed-Race (Black) American from Denver, Colorado
I rank this amongst the very best podcast listens I have ever had. Many of them are from Lex. This was a wonderful opportunity and it was not wasted. Thanks Lex, thanks Jack ❤️ Love conquers all
I've just taken a six month break from Lex to listen to other interviewers on the block..some new and some established. Indeed, there are some very good candidates for the top slot out there. But, throughout the six months my mind wandered back to previously watched Lex interviews, I was almost pining for them. I can't quite pin down what Lex has, but whatever it is it is witnessing the emergence of another immense talent. If there was ever a contest in discussion talent, he'd be streets ahead. It's good to be witness to his talents again and of course his guests, but I have a helluvalot of catchin' up to do..
I usually listen to high energy music when I work out but I had started this and was so absorbed in it, listened for the entire workout. Thanks for another GREAT podcast and excellent guest.
Growing up in a small town in Canada, the Church put on an event called KGB once a year. 50-60 local kids and young adults would try to reach checkpoints while running from about 15 KGB spys in cars with spotlights and some with paintball guns. once you reached a checkpoint you would find a clue to let you know the next check point location. if you were the first person to arrive to the final check point you won. one year my friend and i did win! the prize was a free nights stay at a B&B so i gave it to my parents lol
This is a really good one, Lex always does a great job at engaging with the guests with deep and interesting questions but letting them tell their story. This man's story was incredible, thank you for helping share it with us.
Quoting Edward Snowden made me wonder why you haven’t interviewed him yet. I feel that you would do an excellent interview with him!!! I hope you can make this happen sometime soon!
Thank you Lex for being so humanitarian. You always see the best in all people. As a mix of Russian and American, you take huge chances to trust that people are smart enough to decipher the good and the bad of both sides. You're a provocateur, that's a gift. I celebrate your courage.
As a language teacher, I've been fascinated about this guy's story for years. So curious about how he attained a convincing native accent using what seemed to be cram school methods.
I've met non Native English speakers with no trace of an accent, they told me they taught themselves English, and only listened to Native English speakers, not these Non Native English " teachers " polluting the English Language Centers in Asia, Some people just have a natural ability to pronounce English perfectly, like people with " musical ears ", who can play music without being taught, or being able to read a sheet of music.
He still has a foreign accent, but if he told me he came to the US at, say, 13 or 15, I would believe him. It's not a perfect native accent, though, but enviable in terms of anyone trying to learn a second, third, or whatever language.
Been a polyglot myself, I have always been fascinated how some people almost got rid of their foreign accent. Jack still has an accent but it's very little. You cannot teach it at any school, you must have it in you
@@realreality2232 I mean, he gives a pretty nice pathway to learning a language with a good accent. I didn't mean to belittle it. I speak a half dozen languages to various degrees, about 2 of which I would say I do or did have a near-native accent sort of like his. It can be improved, but it is work that most people don't want to do. Anyway, I definitely didn't mean to shit on him. His English is accurate and elegant. I was just more thinking about in a spy situation where he would have to still have a story to explain that small bit of an accent away.
@@Pixelkip Which part are you referring to buddy? I don't see how any part of it can make anyone insecure. Or are you just unfamiliar with the words you are typing?
Anyone else notice the wry smile on both Lex and Jacks faces when Lex asked the first question “what is the KGB” Jack was like you know Dam well what it is Lex 😂
I usually have a very short attention span .Audio books and podcasts put me to sleep. Yes, I was having trouble sleeping so I put this on. I listened to this in it's entirety .It is now after 5 a.m. and I wish this podcast was longer Excellent interview!.
This specific podcast is what got me listening to lex. I'm glad to see that he's still doing very good and I only encourage you to continue doing what you're doing. You're doing the Lord's work bringing all this information and letting all these people speak
Hearing it from someone real who lived it dwarfs anything you can read in a book. Jack is an amazing soul. Much of this resonating with me- we're all humans.
I loved hearing Mr Barsky describe how he studied English by himself. I really wish he could have a talk show. His intelligence and warmth would be epic for any format.
Dear Lex, I think your voice is incredibly soothing. I often listen your conversations repeatedly to guide me to sleep. You create a safe environment. That's not easy. Educating by day, soothing at night.
This is the reason for all this bullshit stories. Lex got payed to promote this jokers book. No spy would run his mouth like that, especially if he ratted on his agency.
Nah, they had a reason for this and at least one of them was to discredit Yuri Bezmenov and they did but those of us that know of Yuris warnings say thru the playing dumb and they outed themselves as agents...
Please PLEASE make this a movie or miniseries! This is the most fascinating story I’ve ever heard. I loved the book and read his book within three days. It’s incredible.
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1:18 - KGB
14:09 - Communism
33:10 - Childhood
39:57 - Becoming a KGB agent
1:18:30 - Training
1:32:19 - Language
1:38:10 - Moscow
1:53:11 - Spying
2:10:09 - Putin
2:13:01 - War in Ukraine
2:24:28 - Putin in the KGB
2:31:21 - Yuri Bezmenov
2:41:59 - FSB and CIA
2:49:49 - Putin and Zelenskyy
2:58:39 - Quitting the KGB
3:24:57 - Love and regrets
3:33:10 - Mortality
Man, I was hoping to hear his opinion on UFOs. Interesting interview so far.
what a perfect way to interview an ex kgb spy, by having the interviewer himself be a current kgb spy
Lex, someday you should interview a specialist on nuclear weapons and how they work. Both the technicalities (which can be known as far as the information is declassified) and the actual functioning of the decision-making behind it.
Please interview Scott Horton, recently on Jockos unravelling podcast and of Austin, Texas.
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Glad I took the time to watch this. Sorry to say it, but this is my first encounter with Lex and his podcast. I honestly don’t know who impressed me more. I’ll also say, as proud of a man that Jack spent a lifetime to become, I loved his humility and honor to be corrected in his line of thinking at one point in the interview and even made a point to retract one of his comments. Only God can change a heart! What a story, thanks for sharing it with us.
honestly one of the best episodes yet. not surprised lex was able to pull a former kgb spy the man simply never misses
Exactly man! He really knows what we want to listen to!
Barsky has been out in the open media for years, so it wasn't that hard to pull.. he just said he even has his own podcast. stop being a simpleton.
@@kukublof5057 bro got offended over this 💀
I confronted my Russian teacher on communism. He told me that democracy and freedom were just an illusion. No matter what I told him, he wouldn't change his mind.
@@BlackMan614 Putin wrote the script himself. KGBBB.
Being born in a country that does not exist anymore (GDR) in 1982 close to the chzech border and being raised in a household that defeated the Stasi, listening to this really gave me shivers.
I’m a huge fan of you and your podcast, Lex. I spend nights and nights listening to it and I would have never guessed that sb. would mention the city I live in and love for the past 20 years. The city of Jena!
The “student club” that Jack mentioned still exists.
The people you talk to and the compassion you have are extraordinary. Thank you! If you ever come to this part of the world you have someone who would love to show you around and tell stories or listening to you.
Keep up the good work. 9 July 2022 - 4 am - Jena, Germany
Lex is humble and not obnoxious or dominant like many podcasters! He comes across as sympathetic to his guests, non-threatening yet very deeply knowledgeable and conversational on the subject matter in question.
Always
He's the real deal - he is intelligent, curious, and secure with himself. 👍😎
Always! Let’s be more like Lex!
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Although he often interrupts his guests and interjects with useless anecdotal "words of wisdom" that are neither profound nor necessary. Just a minor annoyance. Otherwise I like him
This podcast is one of the best things on the internet.
If not the best. Thank you Joe for introducing this man into my life.
Been fascinated by Lex as a person and turns out im so blessed and grateful that Lex is just as fascinated by people himself, and has the chance to interview those people and then some. Can't wait for Lex to interview Putin!! It better happen
‘Tis indeed a good one sir.
Yes, it was my best internet discovery of 2021, by far.
Khazarian Mafia TOOK OVER CATHOLISISIM...AND THE JEWISH FAITH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGE...THEY ARE..THE JESUIT'S
My dear Jack, I read your story years ago and shed tears at your courage that developed. You overcame much hardship. So glad to see you again.
Emotional debs
Lex Fridman sets a very high standard to follow. He's prepared, knowledgeable and very intelligent. It is very hard to listen to another podcast after listening to Lex. God bless you Lex Fridman.
I like that statement and the way you said that!!
I can listen to 2 more - Dr. Huberman & Joe Rogan
He's also humble and not obnoxious like many podcasters! He comes across as sympathetic to his guests, non-threatening yet very deeply knowledgeable and conversational on the subject matter in question..
@@charlesm9190 Well said. He's a mensch.
Plus he is no slouch. He seems to think highly enough to dress well; which is a sign of respect to his platform and his guests, and to himself (imho). Refreshing to see some sense of formality in this culture of t-shirt you tube channels.
This gentleman is fascinating. I don't know how so much people waste their lives watching trash shows on tv or netflix when you can enjoy this incredible real histories from so interesting people.
I love this stuff and Netflix 'trash' no need to take a side
this guy literally said hed watch tv everyday…
Yeah...real.
Watching a great film is not a waste of time whether on Netflix or any other platform. I know that Lex likes good movies.
2023 - where people get mad thinking about what strangers watch on tv. Wild.
I skipped reading papers and studying just because this conversation absorbed me. It made me reflect on my own life and I can't believe we have access to these stories. Precious.
You have current access to the stories.
"Current".
Once liberal TH-cam is done with stories like this, this story, & the MANY others like it, will be but a whisper in a bullet-ridden alleyway between two winos, too over-the-hill to do much of anything.
Mister Paper Reader himself, precious
Yes, I’m doing my Masters degree and have a lot of research to do, but must finish this episode first haha!
Yes, I’m doing my Masters degree and have a lot of research to do, but must finish this episode first haha!
@@nicholaselliott2484 93 people love to Mister Paper Reader
Once you start listening to a Lex Fridman podcast you cannot stop. Fantastic story!
So true. I've listened to a few, having discovered them yesterday, but for me, this is the greatest by far - maybe the best interview I've ever seen.
yup hopefully jre ends lol this guy actually knows how to have a coherant conversation
Notice all the jewish names?
@@pcraft8785you’re weird
@@damnmuggle you mad jew?
Jack telling his story about his last moments as kgb agent and describing in detail what he was going through was honestly more immersive and captivating that any spy could ever pull off
YEAH BC ITS A LIE...HUSH
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‘My first kiss.’ And Lex investigates. Best interviewer ever. ❤
my entire afternoon was lost due to being hooked on this podcast. Lex, you are an exceptional interviewer, host and communicator.
Jack Barsky, what a man. One of the best podcasts by Lex so far.
This was the most compelling 3.5 hour conversation I’ve listened to. Lex you are a gift to humanity.
Lex, My mom was Russian. This was an outstanding podcast and so interesting, it verified so many things she explained to me!
“The pain of loss is still part of love” is a beautiful quote
Love this ❤️
Grief is the price we pay for love.
Lex is so old inside that he's able to comfort a 70 year old retired KGB agent and send him back to his child state to relive his first love.
He’s just a high functioning highly intelligent psychopath, they can do that to anyone
Haha
thats a weird way of saying someone has cancer
It's because he's an agent/spy too. Deathly obvious if you're observant.
@@TransNeingerian why what did /do you mean by that bro? I got cancer so you’re commenti caught my eye extra
Really appreciate this one. You seem so comfortable interviewing this man, my favorite so far
This is an engrossing life story for sure. Jack makes no attempt to sugar-coat his early ambition and thirst for the high life, which fueled his induction into the spy world and commitment to his training all of which he recalls in lucid detail. The manner in which he recounts his life is charming and infused with good-natured wit and honest insight. I have to infer that this humanist outlook had to be suppressed considerably after he became a real-life steely James Bond type. I am glad that he realized in the end that he is storyteller at heart, or did I just imagine he said that? No matter, I will listen again down the line or read more. Well done, Lex and Jack. 3m views!
@@veteranphilosopher Hi, thx for the response. Hardly ever happens, probably because I'm too wordy. I subscribed to your podcast and look forward to checking it out. Cheers
Wow, prelude to his next book 💪🏼
@@cutkicker Haha. Ja, well, sounds a bit like a blurb, I know! I do tend to voice support, out of solidarity usually, for my fellow former communists, It can take years to purge an old ingrained religion - even a phony one (just ask ex-Scientologists!). Meanwhile, developing a new mental framework that hopefully won’t be as shockingly kaput as the old one is an even greater challenge. Summing up, I am simply in awe at the sophistication of the Weltanschauung that Jack has developed in this regard.
He forgot the part where he started cashing checks from the US State.Department..
One of your best Lex. I was hanging on every word.
The guest is fantastic
he should have Mike Baker and this guy on the same episode
@@dragospahontu nah
@@soopertooclose what
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I like seeing lex’s interview skills progress as he asks tougher questions. Lex, you’re an inspiration. Thank you for putting yourself out there.
I really enjoy watching Lex. Half the time I feel like he's drunk. 😂 I know he's not, but just the way he speaks. This is one of the most confident and engaging conversations I've seen him in. I can tell he was totally geeking out. And what a life this man has lived.
This man’s description of the loss of his first love must bring back everyone who heard it, back to their own first love and loss… that loss for most is absolutely devastating if you’re the one on the losing end.
Just dopamine bro...like eating that first box of chocolate...it's all an illusion for the furthering of the species...
Agreed. Super likable guy. Difference between me and him though is that I learned to make better choices in women. AND I treat my mother better.
Reminder life is nothing but disappointing heartache.
@@tomcarey5156 Only if you’re fool enough to live in your own misery… everything that happens today will be yesterday tomorrow. It’s best not to live in the past.
This episode has been genuinely the most entertaining, intriguing and exciting three hours of discussion I’ve listened to in a good while. Both great communicators who have a passion for good debate and storytelling. I haven’t listened to much of Lex’s podcasts but I’m now hooked 😍
This was my first time watching him, and I'm hooked... I love to learn about other countries and people that could come in handy one day. This is great to be able to hold such a deep conversation on this lvl... These two Men are extremely knowledgeable...
@@marinigrey4913 I couldn't agree more with you Mari, very well put! It's very rare that you get a podcast a true and unbiased as this.
Happy for ya!You know you can watch this on a continuous loop ? ! Im able to send you some kgb inside information if you send me your email.?
@@marinigrey4913 same.
Lol this dude is a fraud. Yuri Bezmenov was the real deal. I mean just close your eyes when you listen to them and tell me which one sounds like a KGB agent and which one sounds like see eye aye 😅
An A.I. scientist (suspected by many to be a robot) & an KGB agent talking about love is the best part.
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Fridman is a dolt.
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see, the Al has fooled u
Bots have evolved the capacity to love.
@@diogenes. the AI fooled you
Lex's knowledge and interviewing/interrogation skills really shined here. I don't think there's many others in the media/podcast world better suited to interview Barsky. This was excellent.
This was such an interesting interview! My parents were both from Germany, My father from the Dresden area in eastern Germany and my Mother from the Koln / Bonn area in the West, so I could relate with Jack and understand what his driving forces were. Thank goodness he has two beautiful children here in the U.S..he didn’t mention if he was still with his wife or nor but he is very insightful and I wish him a long healthy life.🌟
What an incredible conversation. Thank you Lex for your humility and the courage to continue having these difficult nuanced discussions.
There is NOTHING nuanced about it...its 100 percent America good Russia bad. Its utterly pro US war drive...its ignores Assange, Snowden Hales etc totally...it ignores Russiagate and its use to destroy democracy and advance the imperial agenda.
Maybe he could also do a "nuanced" conversation on Hitler and WW2. Maybe German expansionism wasn't all that bad, eh?
He was fighting his bias about mother Russia so hard here, that's why it seemed "nuanced".
If the USSR and the KGB were somewhat incompetent in terms of espionage and propaganda, current Russia is a big joke. Or it would be if they weren't killing hundreds of thousands of people in a country that just wanted to be left alone. Just like all of those eastern European countries, formerly in the Soviet block couldn't run faster towards the NATO.
Lex I just listened to this podcast on Spotify. This is easily one of my all time favorite discussions you've had. What an interesting and engaging guy Jack is. You asked great questions as well. Great interview👍👍
This has by far been one of the most interesting podcasts to date! Really amazing story that even the men in the shadows have hearts and love. It is what truly makes us human.
Stalin had a family. That didn't stop him from killing millions.
Humanity is the greatest evil in the world.
You have oh so many great interviews, Lex, but I think this one is my favorite. I often revisit it because it's a great story that provides so hope and clarity for me in these trying times. Thanks for being a great person Mr. Friedman.
I worked in Navy intelligence for 20 years.
People don't understand how boring most of it is.
I saw a comment on his book... "there's no action".
Yup. That's 99% of it
I know I’m a nerd for laughing way too hard at this comment 😂
*99.5%
The moment you grow old is the moment you understand that most of life is fucking boring, don't forget that our goal in life is to eat, reproduce and die, everything's in between is just a filler to avoid the void
I say 'Define action' -hehe
Nerds stay back and crunch numbers and theories while the meat heads go to the frontline as a Meat shield before they reach the nerds
I started to listen to this conversation at 1am, not knowing what I would get into.... 4am just flew by and I don't know how I will get out of bed in a few hours. Worth it !!!
Thank you for this captivating life story, a story I can relate to on some minor levels.
Happens to me all the time 😄
Probably one of the best conversations I've listened to in a long time. Lex is getting really good at this.
@Eli you haven't seen the lampshades made from human skin didn't you? Creepy stuff.
One thing that really annoys me about TH-cam is auto play. I've read this from others to, but when it often will select videos you've already watched, even several times. Perhaps infinite. However, this particular episode has come on I think 4 times now. Each time it has I can't turn it off. Possibly one of the most pleasant episodes out of any podcasts to date. Very engaging. Very beautiful
same same on all that..i wasn't gonna comment but since you did, ya..is annoying and ya, i find myself leaving it play if i don't have others in que..and in case eye's watchin me for whatever reasons they find assigned to this is dan wessels of the UAMAC covert unit and again," it's not classified" & if i determine it's a threat against 'we the people' I will bring it up as matter of civic duty somewhere, always when crosses my radar. ...dlw sui-juris,III%
You can turn off auto play
I've been reading The Spy and The Traitor about Oleg Gordiewsky and I've been fascinated by espionage and counterintelligence. Interviewing a former KGB spy is a window into another world and I really appreciate having this perspective.
This podcast Lex and these discussions are worth more than gold.... becoming priceless. I didn't even need to buy the book (though I should). I heard about this guy somewhere else but this discussion with you being Russian and then he being an older man... it's such an amazing meeting. --- For every 100 nonsensical videos on YT, there's 1 Lex podcast.
few orders more of nonsense
I just discovered him through my neighbor. Who was listening to a podcast and I had to ask who & this was who. I’m like oh ya thank u new podcast to watch/listen to as well as learn from.
-a pro talker and question asker who lived trying not to ask questions by teachers to fam members who now knows I can make a career out of it. I finally realized… “does Oprah talk too much?” Maybe but that’s her CAREER WHY CAN IT NOT BE MINE????!!!!!!!!!
My strength can be my weakness too
Or a weakness can also be a great
Strength
Haha Freud is ridiculous
Conservatively 10,000 to 1. On second thought, 100,000 to 1 is still within the realm of possibility.
th-cam.com/video/VQkx-u-7f_A/w-d-xo.html Ukrainian soldier says they need to remove zelensky guys you need to share this. This is a cry for help
Tears in my eyes from the teenager love story of an ex KGB spy... what internet (and Mr Fridman) can bring us...
i’ve watched this the past few days before work and before bed and i’ve enjoyed every second! it’s so amazing to listen to two well spoken people that bounce off of eachother so well! journalism like this is so very important! Thank you❤️
One of the best episodes of your podcast.
Lex Fridman, master of dry humor. At the end of a 3 1/2 hour conversation:
"Well, life does eventually come to an end."
Barsky (sounding fatigued):
"Yes, as does this conversation I guess."
"No, this goes on for many more hours..."
This guys life is something out of a movie. I read his book . Really sad that his mother died never knowing what happened to him.
She should have been more of a mom. Been there, done that.
My father died June 24th. We bury him on Tuesday the 12th. In my case good father, bad mother.
@@77Infidel well that was random.
@@77Infidel sorry for your loss... My family story is complicated.. but it seems like those who should love us most are often times the same people who hurt us the most.. ♡ I cant say it gets easier but I can say it does gets easier to cope with as the years pass.. ♡
for emotional conections you need 2 sides, its his and her fault
Khazarian Mafia TOOK OVER CATHOLISISIM...AND THE JEWISH FAITH THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGE...THEY ARE..THE JESUIT'S
You are doing a good job and providing a nessacery service. Im saying that as an English man from the UK 🇬🇧 we dont have the same transparency in this country in the courts and certainly don't have the same rights. You are privileged to live in a country like you do thank you sir.
Lex you're really leveling up as an interviewer. like for real, you attention to almost every detail has gotten very impressive sir
There was a new recruit for the KGB
He was brought in for his final exam to become an agent
He was told for his final test he had to chug a liter of Vodka
then he had to fight a bear
and after he had to make love to a Russian Super Model
The commanding officer handed him the vodka
he guzzled it down
then the officer pointed to a room and said "The bear is in there"
so the recruit entered, and what followed was 45 minutes of yelling and screaming and roars and crashing and banging sounds
until finally, the recruit emerged from the room, sweating and panting, his clothes all ripped and torn, and he said
"Ok, now where is that Super Model I have to fight?"
Fucking gold
@@-..._._-. Fucking Soviet Gold
thats so funny!
🙀🤣🤣🤣
Dude 😂😂😂 ☠️
Phenomenal conversation Lex. Perfect guest, theme, intonation, cadence and timing throughout the whole convo. Growing up in one of ex Yugoslavia's republic, losing family members during war for independence in Croatia during 90's., that whole post 2nd world war period (starting in 90's with Soviet "disintegration"), made a HUGE AND POSITIVE impact on my world view and EMPATHY for others.
@Lex Fridman±¹³¹⁰⁹⁸¹³²⁶⁴ 😈😎
What an incredible interview, I appreciate the chemistry between you two! Its almost like you're two old friends talking. Great guest & great story!
Wow Lex is super laid back and calm whereas I’m used to watching extremely fast paced interviews.
Lex, I continue to be impressed with your long form interviews. You do an amazing job directing and facilitating interesting conversations and do so without getting in the way. Thank you for continuing to publish your magnificent work.
th-cam.com/video/VQkx-u-7f_A/w-d-xo.html Ukrainian soldier says they need to remove zelensky guys you need to share this. This is a cry for help
@Aloha Agree 💯!!
I so loved the ‘Moscow’ section! First hand experience from people who are still alive. All these recollections are so interesting for understanding of the era. We need more on it. Can we get part two with Jack?
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There is so much to learn from these amazing guests, who hold their tongues and wait patiently while Lex gives his opinions on the space where these experts are the top of the game. I’m always amazed by this, and it’s really the one thing that binds every interview together. There must be something about human excellence that gives these masters that control.
Dont comment often. This was one of my favorite podcasts I ever listened too. Thank you to both gentleman.
I watch the entire video. Wasn't expecting this man to tell his first kiss at all lol. Brilliant conversation, enjoyed it thoroughly.
Jack Barsky was one of the technical advisors for the show ' The Americans ' .
Great series...
For real?
Fell asleep watching a cooking video, woke up to this. What the heck TH-cam…
At least it wasn’t Bustamante again and why do they show you stuff you’ve watched already. I guess it’s just good old fashion force feed indoctrination.
Lmao. So did I. some very weird lucid and complex dream related to the subject.
Wasn’t a cooking video but I also fell asleep and woke up here
Same 😂
It happend again ending up here on that video. This time vivid dream and lucid dreams about being caught up becoming in a Chinese triads member (a yakuza) in Paris. Crazy. Felt like hours and woke up approximately around the same hour.
Weirdest thing : it's like I learnt a lot about that yakuza thing. Counting my fingers right now
That’s so funny that he says he overcame shyness moving to the American South. I’ve experienced that to a large extent spending time in Georgia and driving through the Deep South. It’s much easier for me to say hello to strangers now and have small talk. Big difference coming from South Florida, and broke stereotypes too as to how I would be treated, being Latino.
The Deep South will change you!
Working in Australia cured my British shyness.
You should take everything this man says with a grain of salt:)
Ha! I had the inverse, spending a little time in the American South shied my boisterous self up REAL quick. - Mixed-Race (Black) American from Denver, Colorado
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Why would he lie about something like that?
This podcast episode was FASCINATING. Thank you, Lex, for continuing to do what you do.
This is the best interview of Jack on the internet. It brought me to tears in the end. Thank you Lex.
30 minutes in I can see how you got there. This is very special.
Lex has an old soul, very well articulated. As well as 💪 and straight forward!!
just another incredible interview and guest from Lex, Thanks!!!!. Much love
I rank this amongst the very best podcast listens I have ever had. Many of them are from Lex.
This was a wonderful opportunity and it was not wasted. Thanks Lex, thanks Jack ❤️
Love conquers all
I just love Lex for asking "What about the heartbreak that follows?" lol
I've just taken a six month break from Lex to listen to other interviewers on the block..some new and some established.
Indeed, there are some very good candidates for the top slot out there.
But, throughout the six months my mind wandered back to previously watched Lex interviews, I was almost pining for them.
I can't quite pin down what Lex has, but whatever it is it is witnessing the emergence of another immense talent.
If there was ever a contest in discussion talent, he'd be streets ahead.
It's good to be witness to his talents again and of course his guests, but I have a helluvalot of catchin' up to do..
Smart, humble, self aware, empathetic. I think he has those qualities which make him a great interviewer. Amongst others.
I usually listen to high energy music when I work out but I had started this and was so absorbed in it, listened for the entire workout. Thanks for another GREAT podcast and excellent guest.
Growing up in a small town in Canada, the Church put on an event called KGB once a year. 50-60 local kids and young adults would try to reach checkpoints while running from about 15 KGB spys in cars with spotlights and some with paintball guns. once you reached a checkpoint you would find a clue to let you know the next check point location. if you were the first person to arrive to the final check point you won. one year my friend and i did win! the prize was a free nights stay at a B&B so i gave it to my parents lol
Sounds suspicious. The church set this game up? Conditioned through play for war?
Sounds awesome lol
@@briankunkel2754 right?
Sounds like a game I played in Arizona, except it was called “fugitive” and we did not use paintball guns. Fun game
@@conorx3 oh no, it's just fun and games man. Nothing even close to suspicious or wrong about it. All about fun, M8.
This is a really good one, Lex always does a great job at engaging with the guests with deep and interesting questions but letting them tell their story. This man's story was incredible, thank you for helping share it with us.
Yeah, but he forgot the point where he started getting paid to parrot see eye aye talkingpoints..
This is one of the best episodes of any podcast I’ve seen/heard
I heartily agree!
Quoting Edward Snowden made me wonder why you haven’t interviewed him yet. I feel that you would do an excellent interview with him!!! I hope you can make this happen sometime soon!
It will never happen. He is not suicidal.
@@mischa1880 huh? Edward Snowden has done multiple podcasts?
Second this
That would be a decent episode. I wouldn't mind seeing lex interview Alex Jones. It would be super.
Interview Julian Assange before your govt gets to him! Please!!
“You would be a good secret agent”
“How do you know I’m not? We’ll discuss this later” 😂
This is one of the most beautiful interviews I have ever listened to.
Lex, you make we want to be a kinder person. Love your work 😎👍
An example of a great way to think and live
Being a piece of shit is cool, be a man. ✊🏾 but yeah I feel you man he’s great. As I say, the LexIcon
@@phoraridmv 😂👍
He's a bore and a dolt.
I hadn't heard about Jack Barsky so he whole story had me on the edge of my seat. That was excellent !!
I love the phrase, "... a well controlled inclination to adventure."
What a great guy, fantastic interview. Thank you for what you do.
I'll be counting the days until Jack comes back to chat again. This is gold!! Awesome interview 👌
Thank you Lex for being so humanitarian. You always see the best in all people. As a mix of Russian and American, you take huge chances to trust that people are smart enough to decipher the good and the bad of both sides. You're a provocateur, that's a gift. I celebrate your courage.
He's a bore and a dolt and hardly a humanitarian.
Don’t think he is a “provocateur” in any sense
As a language teacher, I've been fascinated about this guy's story for years. So curious about how he attained a convincing native accent using what seemed to be cram school methods.
I've met non Native English speakers with no trace of an accent, they told me they taught themselves English, and only listened to Native English speakers, not these Non Native English " teachers " polluting the English Language Centers in Asia, Some people just have a natural ability to pronounce English perfectly, like people with " musical ears ", who can play music without being taught, or being able to read a sheet of music.
He still has a foreign accent, but if he told me he came to the US at, say, 13 or 15, I would believe him. It's not a perfect native accent, though, but enviable in terms of anyone trying to learn a second, third, or whatever language.
Been a polyglot myself, I have always been fascinated how some people almost got rid of their foreign accent. Jack still has an accent but it's very little. You cannot teach it at any school, you must have it in you
@@realreality2232 I mean, he gives a pretty nice pathway to learning a language with a good accent. I didn't mean to belittle it. I speak a half dozen languages to various degrees, about 2 of which I would say I do or did have a near-native accent sort of like his. It can be improved, but it is work that most people don't want to do. Anyway, I definitely didn't mean to shit on him. His English is accurate and elegant. I was just more thinking about in a spy situation where he would have to still have a story to explain that small bit of an accent away.
He probably has a 'good' ear as well. But his English accent is not 100% native imo.
A good cup of coffee paired with a Lex Fridman podcast always brings me a feeling of warmth and comfort that sometimes even moves me to tears.
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@@JaeSwift aw did that make you feel insecure
@@Pixelkip Which part are you referring to buddy? I don't see how any part of it can make anyone insecure. Or are you just unfamiliar with the words you are typing?
@@JaeSwift seems like a cringe thing to type in response to a really nice comment xD And im very familiar with words buddy lmao
@@Pixelkip 'moved to tears' is a bit fuckin extreme don't you think?
This is such a likeable guy, humble and now very wise.
"Love always screws up your employment competence." Yes. Got a chuckle out of that one.
Reminds me of a quote from Game of Thrones. "Love is the death of duty".
Anyone else notice the wry smile on both Lex and Jacks faces when Lex asked the first question “what is the KGB” Jack was like you know Dam well what it is Lex 😂
@@landspide same as when Joe and Lex were taking about it last week. Something crafty going on 😂
I'm repeatedly surprised to realize that I like Lex and EVERY one of his guests more than anyone else I've never met...🤔
This podcast keeps getting better and better. Well done, Lex. Keep it up.
Thank you for yet another great video! Your commitment and passion is much appreciated.
One of your best interviews. Thank you, Lex and Jack Barsky.
This is so brilliant, I'm going to have to watch it all over again. Lex you really are getting quite good at this ...
I usually have a very short attention span .Audio books and podcasts put me to sleep. Yes, I was having trouble sleeping so I put this on. I listened to this in it's entirety .It is now after 5 a.m. and I wish this podcast was longer Excellent interview!.
That Swiss Air joke was incredible! Hahaha he is so shy it's adorable :)
Have seen bunch of your interviews Lex, this so far is the most fluid, the best so far! I salute your intrepidness!
This specific podcast is what got me listening to lex. I'm glad to see that he's still doing very good and I only encourage you to continue doing what you're doing. You're doing the Lord's work bringing all this information and letting all these people speak
This episode was a window into an incredible life
Hearing it from someone real who lived it dwarfs anything you can read in a book. Jack is an amazing soul. Much of this resonating with me- we're all humans.
Nah, maybe the East Germans who did not become Stasi or KGB agents are a little bit better.
The guest is a great story teller. I enjoyed the conversation very much thank you!
I loved hearing Mr Barsky describe how he studied English by himself. I really wish he could have a talk show. His intelligence and warmth would be epic for any format.
Dear Lex, I think your voice is incredibly soothing. I often listen your conversations repeatedly to guide me to sleep. You create a safe environment. That's not easy. Educating by day, soothing at night.
This podcast has been legendary for quite some time now, but this guest is just next level shit! From one Jack to another-I’ll be buying the book!
You might be interested in Jason Breshear's channel Archaix
@Andy Godwin Thank you
You could say Lex is a Jack of all trades
This is the reason for all this bullshit stories. Lex got payed to promote this jokers book. No spy would run his mouth like that, especially if he ratted on his agency.
Two FSB sleeper agents having a conversation out of boredom
Nah, they had a reason for this and at least one of them was to discredit Yuri Bezmenov and they did but those of us that know of Yuris warnings say thru the playing dumb and they outed themselves as agents...
@@manners7483what? Lex and JB outed themselves as agents here in this video?
@@manners7483ahh, 2:15:45 Lex starts giving us the Putin propaganda.
Please PLEASE make this a movie or miniseries! This is the most fascinating story I’ve ever heard. I loved the book and read his book within three days. It’s incredible.
He has a podcast, The Agent