The Coalition Underestimated Iraq's Hardest Fighting Unit | Iraq 2003

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  • When the US-led coalition invaded Iraq in March 2003, General Tommy Franks believed the main threats to be the Iraqi Army and Republican Guard units. What he underestimated was the strength of the Fedayeen Saddam, a militia controlled by Saddam Hussein's son Uday. These were hard fighters who continued to fight to the end, and reaked havoc upon the long coalition supply lines from Kuwait to the tip of the spear of the march on Baghdad.
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    Sources:
    Gordon, Michael, and Bernard E. Trainor. Cobra 2.: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. London, UK: Atlantic Books, 2007.
    MacAskill, Ewen. “Murders and Mutilation in Iraq Revealed.” The Guardian, November 3, 2000. www.theguardian.com/world/200....
    McConnell, Malcolm, and Tommy Franks. American Soldier. Regan Books, 2004.
    Rose, David. “Death Squads the CIA Ignored.” The Guardian, March 30, 2003. www.theguardian.com/world/200....
    Woods, Kevin M. Iraqi Perspectives Project: A View of Operation Iraqi Freedom from Saddam’s Senior Leadership. Norfolk, VA: United States Joint Forces Command, Joint Center for Operational Analysis, 2006.

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  • @ryanelliott71698
    @ryanelliott71698 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1256

    Ok the darth Vader part caught me off guard

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

      Darth Feda....
      ....yeen!

    • @ryanelliott71698
      @ryanelliott71698 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      @@Menaceblue3 lol that was good. Tbh I thought they looked like that to provide better head protection, not to larp

    • @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895
      @generalmarkmilleyisbenedic8895 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      Saddam was a fan as well, and actually wrote his own sci fi-love novels 😂

    • @Chris-fn4df
      @Chris-fn4df 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Those helmets are a touch of military genius - nobody can possibly take you seriously while wearing one. I wonder how many troops missed a shot just because they were trying to stifle a chuckle.

    • @carlbernard2605
      @carlbernard2605 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      In the dungeons of the Republican palace in baghdad we found a good amount of those wacky Darth Vader helmets we were like wtf guy must have loved star wars lol

  • @1977Yakko
    @1977Yakko 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +948

    So, did Gen. Franks essentially fall into the age old trap of being ready to fight the last war?

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +184

      Too ready and being unwilling to respect the reality of the situation at the ground and grunt level due to him being an officer for too long and having a superior view of himself.
      Too many officers in OIF and OEF had that way of thinking; and it only got WORSE overtime. The Obama period really got bad. Not saying he was a bad president; but for prosecuting Iraq and Afghanistan he wasn't what was needed.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No.

    • @tokyosmash
      @tokyosmash 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      Franks was a legendary megalomaniac

    • @greygalah
      @greygalah 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

      Well said. This is the great military disease of inflexible thinking. The British generals fought WW1 as if it were the Crimean War; the Navy fought WW2 as if it were WW1 (aircraft carriers with biplanes!); The US fought Vietnam as if it were Korea; and the hits just keep on coming

    • @tokyosmash
      @tokyosmash 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@greygalah that’s the ol’ saying of preparing for the last war

  • @Quackerilla
    @Quackerilla 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +793

    Darth Vader Division

    • @mustavogaia2655
      @mustavogaia2655 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      501st

    • @optimusender9774
      @optimusender9774 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Vader's fist

    • @inSainTed
      @inSainTed 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      I find your lack of faith disturbing

    • @SavageDragon999
      @SavageDragon999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fucking hypocrite lmao. Publicly acts like he hates the US but is deep down a star wars masturbator.

    • @nabilbudiman271
      @nabilbudiman271 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      the "DVD", nice

  • @amogusenjoyer
    @amogusenjoyer 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +446

    Funny that the decentralized approach they took to weapon caches/leadership was done to make fighting an insurgency easier but ended up make their own insurgency much more effective. I guess they were right about how an eventual iraqi insurgency against saddam would've turned out haha.

    • @Huy-G-Le
      @Huy-G-Le 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Iraqi Insurgency against Saddam are all US backed extremist.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The traditional enemy Iraq had been fighting was Iran and different internal uprisings.

    • @Huy-G-Le
      @Huy-G-Le 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SusCalvin Iran related made up 2 out 10 of "traditional enemy" of the Iraqi state under Hussein, but ok.

    • @amogusenjoyer
      @amogusenjoyer 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SusCalvin I don't think there has been a lot is insurgency in Iraq prior to the early 90s, right?

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@amogusenjoyer I don't recall exactly when Saddam was putting down different uprisings. But that is a pretty common concern in dictatorships.

  • @nowthenzen
    @nowthenzen 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +208

    Apparently Franks and his staff had never played a war game going against troops rated as Fearless Militia.

    • @mozi3051
      @mozi3051 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People always underestimate them. Even napoleaone in spain.

  • @iraqigeek8363
    @iraqigeek8363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +341

    How broken was US intelligence that it missed the role of the fidayeen?!!!
    Anybody who lived in iraq throgugh the 90s was very familiar with their brutality and loyalty to the regime. To dismiss them as a risk - as others pointed out - strikes of sheer incompetence

    • @amogusenjoyer
      @amogusenjoyer 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well usually militias like them (that are basically based on loyalty to a regime) are pretty useless when said regime is collapsing. They mostly only exist as long as they have some sort of "monopoly" on violence on the internal population and completely trash at fighting anyone else. But in this case yeah, loyalty to baathism took a different form after the initial collapse

    • @bloodybones63
      @bloodybones63 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      They lost, they were destroyed, so, there's that.

    • @tinyprince
      @tinyprince 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +150

      ​@@bloodybones63 That genuinely doesn't matter.
      Priority #1 should be to make sure you acknowledge any and all mistakes made and learn from them, regardless of the success of the operation.
      Underestimating guerilla fighters backed by their own government is a mistake. That's the simple truth.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Although I share your outrage/frustration, it's not _that_ hard to empathize, either.
      Like, just _actually_ sit and think for a minute:
      What assumptions/beliefs would it take for you to have viewed them as "merely a speed bump"?
      I also think the American leadership made grave errors here, but I can _still_ imagine a set of ideas that makes their stupidity appear logical :)

    • @KaDaJxClonE
      @KaDaJxClonE 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      The US missed 9/11 because the Intel world couldn't communicate with each other. This was remedied with the creation of NSA and DHS. (TSA has always been theatre and never meant to be effective).
      Missing one militia group of the hundreds of territorial Defense forces and Republican guard units and tracking the movement of the normal army is hard work.

  • @Archangelm127
    @Archangelm127 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

    Ah yes, the timeless and powerful command/management technique of sticking one's fingers in one's ears and yelling "LA LA LA." Well done, Franks.

  • @poweroftorque
    @poweroftorque 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Never underestimate power of volunteers …

  • @rinoz47
    @rinoz47 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +205

    "Then Uday flew into a rage."

    • @homoflexual886
      @homoflexual886 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the funny thing is he was probably still in a rage up until a TOW missile flew into his house

    • @JohnnyRico118
      @JohnnyRico118 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      "This enraged Uday, who punished his subordinates severely."

    • @Josh23761
      @Josh23761 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      From my understanding he was prone to his temper tantrums.
      Problem is these tantrums usually resulted in him using a gun.
      If he wasn't his Son, Saddam would probably have killed him for being a huge pain in the ass for him.
      Hard to keep the 'father of the people and heroic commander' image when your Son is torturing and killing people over tiny issues or when he feels he is not shown respect.

    • @witzeto150
      @witzeto150 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@Josh23761
      Saddam almost did kill Uday, because he killed his best friend. Only thing that stopped him was Uday’s mother begging him not to.

    • @Kaanfight
      @Kaanfight 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Josh23761he was a crazy person, yes

  • @gtaddict3666
    @gtaddict3666 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    In 2003, my father was a colonel in the Iraqi army, and he told us that the Fedayeen had beheaded prisoners of the coalition forces.

    • @spacemarine3482
      @spacemarine3482 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Based

    • @mussyeg
      @mussyeg 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Good ahaha 🤣

    • @fries3187
      @fries3187 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And the coalition destroyed them lol

  • @arwing20
    @arwing20 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +420

    The sheer incompetence and arrogance of American high command during and after this war just made things much worse for the troops and civilians on the ground

    • @bloodybones63
      @bloodybones63 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I think it's called confidence, mate.

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      There wasn't much incompetence. They just vastly underestimated how idiotic the Iraqis were.

    • @blamthekaboom
      @blamthekaboom 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      high command? i guess america is the new nazi germany

    • @CubeInspector
      @CubeInspector 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When you don't realize Iraq was always meant to be a forever war like Afghanistan you call it incompetence instead of what it was, sabotage.

    • @umbrellashotgunman
      @umbrellashotgunman 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      It says something about the sheer tactical level disparity between the Coalition and the Iraqis that the strategic and operational level mistakes made by the former didn’t do much to save the latter.

  • @notorio526
    @notorio526 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +183

    I can't believe TH-cam recommended me something good

    • @avgjoeavglife
      @avgjoeavglife 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Once in a while, TH-cam recommends good content.

    • @curlymcdom
      @curlymcdom 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This whole channel is superb, enjoy the binge!

    • @diskopartizan0850
      @diskopartizan0850 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There's a partner channel called the operations room too. Great stuff.

    • @MrHaveaword
      @MrHaveaword 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah same here, TH-cam’s starting to affect my mental health

    • @chaimkobylinski1988
      @chaimkobylinski1988 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      TH-cam recommends based on your taste and interests, so it might be just saying something about you

  • @caseyo6033
    @caseyo6033 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +185

    There is a lot that Rumsfeld did not understand but thought he did.
    Let military leaders lead the military not politicians

    • @C.Chandler_May
      @C.Chandler_May 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      Well, it was based on a lie to begin with.

    • @noco7243
      @noco7243 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cope​@@C.Chandler_May

    • @nolanwhite1971
      @nolanwhite1971 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Military leaders at that level *are* politicians, though.

    • @raysteigerwalt5272
      @raysteigerwalt5272 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@C.Chandler_Maynothing was found wink wink

    • @C.Chandler_May
      @C.Chandler_May 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@raysteigerwalt5272 tube's.. yellow cake..

  • @Jivemike8404
    @Jivemike8404 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    OIF Veteran here 2007-2008 US Navy Corpsman I really appreciate the vids on OIF! Its been so long but watching these I remember the taste of the god damn dust in the air. It is so wild how a memory can snap you back 17 years in time. I had to pull out a calculator to see if that number was true. It was. Ouch. Love for my brothers and sisters.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    It's a good thing commercial fpv drones weren't a thing then.

  • @bananabanana8831
    @bananabanana8831 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    lot of "underestimating" went on back then .

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      A lot of British style Hubris went on in the Coalition, especially my own US of A.

    • @jarredpickle4916
      @jarredpickle4916 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tyvernoverlord5363 Nah just Incompetent American officers

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@jarredpickle4916 The incompetence was just the very TIP of the gigantic iceberg...
      Saying all of our problems was merely JUST incompetence, is incompetent thinking in and of itself.

    • @DogKacique
      @DogKacique 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Which it's crazy to think about, given how careful coalition forces were during Desert Storm

    • @AmonAnon-vw3hr
      @AmonAnon-vw3hr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @tyvernoverlord5363 quite the opposite. Too many kid glove tactics and cuddle bombs.

  • @crosbykid97
    @crosbykid97 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    they out here rocking earth vader helmets

    • @sophiavhoti4548
      @sophiavhoti4548 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i hate when a movie copies something than becomes so famous it overshadows the original thing. Star was litterally used one of these helmets for vader it wasnt an original design they just used mil-surplus.

    • @Nedula007
      @Nedula007 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@sophiavhoti4548 LOL what. That's a blatant lie. Brian Muir sculpted Vaders mask and armor from inspiration of Samauri. Don't spread falsehoods.

    • @comrade_commissar3794
      @comrade_commissar3794 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sophiavhoti4548You know Star Wars was 1977, and the Fedayeen were created in 1995, right

  • @darkninjacorporation
    @darkninjacorporation 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    It’s like having to fight a cartel after being taught and prepared to fight an army. Completely different ballgames.

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The unit is part of a state armed force. The recruitment and resources of a state militia is hard to compare with non-state actors.

    • @AJK17.5
      @AJK17.5 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​Fighting a cartel would he easy for any proper standing army ​@@SusCalvin

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AJK17.5 The army does not investigate crime scenes, canvas neighbours, watch crowds, file evidence, audit records and track social networks as a main job.
      There are some countries with gendarmerie, internal troops and civilian use of military police. In them it leads to a double organization at best. The police and the second police. If they are heavily set towards this role they start to focus less on their military role.

    • @AJK17.5
      @AJK17.5 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SusCalvin true but the military has many branches, and also all an army would have to do is pinpoint the location of the cartels and start raids on locations , if the usa for example set their armed forces they woukd disable most of Mexico or brazils hardest cartels

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AJK17.5 I think that would mean keeping the armed forces tracked away from a body meant to fight another nation-state, and even more of the armed forces reorganized to operate in Iraq.
      France has ran their Operation Sentinel for years now, it is the closest example to me of using regular troops for police and security tasks. French troops move in small patrols around the subway and sit around the Louvre and places. They do no investigation, they don't chat people up.

  • @michaele5173
    @michaele5173 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +296

    I was in 1/325 AIR during the Battle of As Amawah. When we first got close enough to see the enemy (sprinting across the desert in full chemical suits because we were taking mortar fire) I saw these Darth Vader helmets and was like WTF because I'd been there in '91 and knew what the Republican Guard looked like. We had been briefed nothing at all on the Fedayeen, I thought it might have been Iran Quds forces. We slaughtered them but they did fight to the death. The reason they fought to the death is because they were high on meth. We were finding so much on the bodies that word came down to keep an eye on the troops to make sure they weren't taking any haha. I don't know if that was ever reported to the media.

    • @westrim
      @westrim 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

      So you're saying there was a methhead to their madness.

    • @bigbison6593
      @bigbison6593 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      That must have looked hilarious! Just Darth Vader running into assault rifles like he has. got the force then just dies!

    • @MM22966
      @MM22966 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I heard they used the main hospital as a primary firing point (since it was the biggest building in town and the surrounding area was fairly flat). Also that they used the ambulances as tactical transports around the city.

    • @DogKacique
      @DogKacique 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@westrim Ayyyyyyyyy

    • @blksubiesti
      @blksubiesti 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      I was at the 64 easting our skirmish too bro. We had no idea what that uniform was. Didn’t matter the didn’t stand a chance

  • @s4usea
    @s4usea 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    My little brother was in an infantry unit at As Samawah with the 82nd, (they called it A$$ $andwich). Frank's problem was as an Artillery officer he had no understanding of the application of infantry and armor below the operational level. To his credit, he generally understood this and gave his commanders, to include the SF guys, a free hand unless civilians were involved, (to limit casualties) which caused problems when the Fedayeen were involved and tactical realities collided with command intent. Lastly, recognizing the Fedayeen as a force to be reckoned with came from Rumsfeld, not Franks, as SecDef didn't want any comparisons to VN. To that end, he forbad the use of "insurgency" and it took him more than two and a half years to even acknowledge what was going on in Iraq. In this context Franks reaction to it was probably due to knowing that Rumsfeld was going to visit consequences on him for his commander not sticking to the script.

  • @g.b.8836
    @g.b.8836 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    Franks was something else....

    • @5metoo
      @5metoo 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      He couldn't retire fast enough after Baghdad fell.

  • @stardekk1461
    @stardekk1461 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Franks is the stereotype of the average American general

    • @AlexRojas-db6yd
      @AlexRojas-db6yd 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And he has the book title to prove it lmao

  • @davidtuttle508
    @davidtuttle508 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +145

    In 2003, I was in Diwaniyah, as an Army Civil Affairs soldier, supporting the 3d Bn, 5th Marines. We were briefed prior to the Marines taking Diwaniyah, that US Special Forces snuck into the city and observed the Fedayeen occupying its' soccer stadium. The Special Forces called in a massive airstrike. They stated that when it was over, all they saw was a red dusty mist. They estimated that 500+ Fedayeen had been vaporized.

    • @SavageHenry777
      @SavageHenry777 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Gorgeous

    • @mackenzieblair8135
      @mackenzieblair8135 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Delta? Or another group?

    • @CubeInspector
      @CubeInspector 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      ​@@mackenzieblair8135 when someone in the US Army says Special Forces we are talking about Green Berets, who have the Special Forces tab. This is in contrast to special operations, which is a generic term for special units

    • @helilivesmatter1075
      @helilivesmatter1075 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      how long was it until you were issued desert pattern gear?

    • @mackenzieblair8135
      @mackenzieblair8135 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@CubeInspector I’m well aware of the difference between SF and others. I asked because 1. it was a Marine operation and misread the OP also being a Marine and
      2. Infiltrating an enemy occupied town seems like a skillset for a more direct action oriented unit.

  • @user-bf7xu3pz5h
    @user-bf7xu3pz5h 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing insight, fascinating description, comprehensive understanding- you Intel Report guys are the greatest!! Prester Bob

  • @nolan1481
    @nolan1481 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

    Fine, I'll watch Generation Kill again

    • @208flatheads3
      @208flatheads3 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is that who was in that white small pickup in that first or 2nd episode?

    • @AmonAnon-vw3hr
      @AmonAnon-vw3hr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lol you may as well go watch Aladdin.

    • @armannstraughter3296
      @armannstraughter3296 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AmonAnon-vw3hr😆?

    • @lexussinkhole1202
      @lexussinkhole1202 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A series about people travelling through the desert in HumVees barely seeing any action with soldiers jacking it in the background in random scenes. What a great show...

    • @Patop2002
      @Patop2002 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@lexussinkhole1202 Thats literally the most accurate depiction of the Iraq war possible.

  • @MrShadowtruth
    @MrShadowtruth 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    And the thing is many Fedayeen fighters fought against the US-her allies and the new Iraqi republic until this very day, with many joining or even helping the founding Daesh.

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Its funny how were are STILL dealing with the global consequences of 2002-2003 to this day.

    • @Funko777
      @Funko777 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tyvernoverlord5363 yeah... almost like all past historical events impact all future ones 🙄
      You think 03 is bad, wait until you learn about the consequences of WW1 that we're still dealing with

    • @stardekk1461
      @stardekk1461 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@tyvernoverlord5363it's not that funny... It's a disaster

    • @tyvernoverlord5363
      @tyvernoverlord5363 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      @@stardekk1461Not funny as in hahaha, funny is in the irony that everyone thought it was over in 2011, when in fact still in current year 4:48 PM EST we still are dealing with the consequences and the government still can't put 2+2 together.

    • @aurele2
      @aurele2 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stardekk1461 it is funny, many neocons in washington were extremerly confident with their flawed foreign policy which ultimately costed the lives of many innocents. Maybe dont do illegal wars- oh and if USA can get away with an illegall war, Putin will think to himself he can get away with Ukraine- see how US foreign policy backfired?

  • @yellowprime8491
    @yellowprime8491 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    The US not supporting the Shia Uprising should have been a big hint to the Kurds what would come many years later 😞

    • @SamerMahroos
      @SamerMahroos 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      there was no Shia uprising, it was an Iran-supported uprising which happned to be all Shia, actually they killed more Shia than Saddam did, inculding the aftermath. same thing with the Kurds, 13 big tribes only one who would work with anyone other than Iraq (Iran, US, The Mossad, the Soviets, even the Syrian regime who wouldn't recognize its Kurdish minority unitl 2014) this one tribe (Barzani) was put in power by the US, the other 12 tribes were with Saddam all the way until this very moment, this tribe (Barzani) chose anybody other than Iraq despite Saddam helping them in 1996 when the other Kurdish faction ( not a tribe, a marxisit group called the Kurdistan Union Party) run them over. the US had to step in by bombing Iraq to save facevalue. the history isn't what the US is saying.

  • @sg51psd04
    @sg51psd04 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Thank you for covering this small yet most important battle during the invasion.
    We fought 50/50 Republican guard and Sadaam Fedayeen, In As Samawah Iraq in end of Mar. 2003. From 27-30 Mar it was mostly republican guard, then Fedayeen AFTER. Those FADAYEEN dudes were fanatical and threw their lives away constantly in charges against us...I was Aco, 2BDE 1st BN 82nd ABN. we fought in As Samawah from 29 Mar- 8 April 2003. then it was passive mop up after. 3rd ID called us up when they failed to take As Samawah. We (paratroopers took it in a week) minus 3rd IDs Armor...Something about them as LEGS couldn't protect their supply lines and needed us to fix that issue..., Side note, my Plt took 12 republican guard prisoners in a 8hr battle on 31 Mar. 2003. We gleaned much intel on the Fedayeen from them. Enlightening us on the disposition of the rest of the defense of As Samawah.

    • @ifv2089
      @ifv2089 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Legend 🫡

    • @luckydawg03
      @luckydawg03 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      2nd platoon. What about you?

    • @samy7013
      @samy7013 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “Samawah”? Do you mean _Samarra_ ?

  • @Mustafa-nu9tj
    @Mustafa-nu9tj 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Proud to be Iraqi 🇮🇶

    • @Miks-ck1kv
      @Miks-ck1kv 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      الله اكبر

    • @therealjoebiden5135
      @therealjoebiden5135 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Miks-ck1kvAllah is the greatest and just LOVES children. His 9 year old wife would attest to this.

    • @Miks-ck1kv
      @Miks-ck1kv 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@therealjoebiden5135 seethe kaffir

    • @Miks-ck1kv
      @Miks-ck1kv 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@therealjoebiden5135 seethe kaffir

    • @BULL.173
      @BULL.173 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I endorse this comment lol

  • @LAHFaust
    @LAHFaust 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I had a 1SGT who had one of the Fedayeen helmets with a hole punched through the side of it. He put that thing on the shelf behind his desk and it was right at eye-level when he was smoking you in his office.

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜

  • @nickhaynie5980
    @nickhaynie5980 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I was in the Marines back then, I participated in the invasion in 2003. Before we started we were extensively briefed on Iraqi military capabilities, we were fully aware of the Fedayeen and the Republican Guard divisions, we were told where to expect them and how they would put up a fight. This narrative is wrong for saying that we didn't know about the Fedayeen. We knew and we eagerly sought battle with them, however they chose not to fight us until after the invasion during the insurgency period 2004-2006

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I also thought so. The fedayeen seemed to operate down to cells if necessary. A lot of dictatorial regimes have wonky uprising suppression and coup defence.
      Standing orders in Cold War Europe was to do similar things. Hold out as partisans in a possible soviet-occupied territory using hidden caches on your own initiative.

  • @cabooseplays1466
    @cabooseplays1466 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Darth vader helmets!?

    • @stardekk1461
      @stardekk1461 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It fits their evilness

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@stardekk1461 And their cartoonishness.

  • @outis7080
    @outis7080 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +87

    4:54 "as a notorious playboy"
    And infamous serial rapist and murderer. Don't forget about that part.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thanks for that clarification 😲🥲

    • @sedrfghbn
      @sedrfghbn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      I've meet countless sunni Arabs that said the Ba'ath regime days were stable and much better than post-invasion Iraq. It is scary how they consider mass-rape, extrajudicial killings, and torture as "stable" and "better." Keep in mind, ISIS was composed by a large part of ex-Ba'ath cadre and henchmen

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@sedrfghbn
      Sounds sorta like the same dynamic that Putin rides on.
      "Yeah, he makes us die in a pointless ego war, but at least it wasn't as bad as right after the Soviet Union collapsed"
      I wouldn't say it's "scary" how they consider these options better (both in Iraq and Russia), unless you mean it in a way like "omg, if this is better, than 'that' must have been _even_ worse!"
      Aka more of a humbling/educational moment, not judgmental

    • @aurele2
      @aurele2 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@sedrfghbn Iraq was better then than it is now, that is a fact, have a good day.

    • @Mirul-ef3jb
      @Mirul-ef3jb 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@sedrfghbn have you ever consider that those allegations could be false. Were talking about literal muslism here afterall

  • @karbitgameing6921
    @karbitgameing6921 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Since the operations room chanel had their last video about iraq i think it would be fitting for this channel to have a 20 years later video to show what has changed in the past 20 years after the invasion

  • @emilioglz.carrillodealborn9175
    @emilioglz.carrillodealborn9175 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hello!
    Are you going to do any more videos on the indo-Pakistani wars?
    Thank you!

    • @yousafkhattak5259
      @yousafkhattak5259 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Specifically the Kargil war. Bcz that was tough and most recent

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video!

  • @markbowles2382
    @markbowles2382 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If you study wars, you know, in all times, light armed fast moving troops are always underestimated against heavily armed troops, espeacially when its their own back yard and before air power.

  • @justinhadley2583
    @justinhadley2583 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The vader helmets were fitting.

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm halfway through the video and I'm dying to know about the storm trooper helmets

  • @RangerGucci
    @RangerGucci 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Good content

  • @thomasebele8550
    @thomasebele8550 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Darth Vader helmets for the Fedayeen are ... interesting.

  • @StevenKeery
    @StevenKeery 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Interesting. Sounds familiar that Franks didn't or wouldn't listen to Commanders on the ground, as to what they were encountering.

    • @SaanMigwell
      @SaanMigwell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That's not true. Franks let us do what we wanted/needed to do. Rumsfeld, Bremmer, and wolfowitz are the folks who didn't listen to the commanders on the ground, besides Franks was on the ground with us the whole way anyways. He knew what was going on.

  • @timfify
    @timfify 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Wow! this so revlent today.

  • @196cupcake
    @196cupcake 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The part about how the Fedayeen became accustom to making a living off theft and extortion is the most brilliant and evil part. With the breakdown of rule of law they automatically become a problem for any invading force. I’d imagine that for a lot of them it was sort of all they knew how to do; their only employable skill. I’m not sure how easily they hid their identities, but to the extent that people knew who they were, … would you hire one to work at your Wendy’s? So, you have a decent number of men who are trapped in that sort of lifestyle.

    • @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx
      @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Flase. Fedayeen Worked As Law Enforcers. Why Would They Break Their Own Laws? Saddam Used Them To Enfore Islamic Laws In Order To Win The Support Of The Arab Muslim Iraqis...

  • @G31M1
    @G31M1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:17 they be really wearing Darth Vader helmets out here lmao

  • @thebashar
    @thebashar 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great work. Will you cover objective Curly? My cousin was there.

  • @khornedmaple
    @khornedmaple 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    1:03
    "by Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday"
    Oh no... oh god, no...
    4:54
    "as a notorious playboy"
    Yeah, that's one way to describe him 💀

    • @Josh23761
      @Josh23761 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah big man using Daddys power to scare women into spreading their legs for a few minutes to avoid torture then throwing a tantrum and killing people over loosing a sports game.
      Real fucking Alpha energy right there 😂
      Even Saddam thought he was useless and deranged but he could not afford to acknowledge that his successor was just a psychotic megalomaniac.
      They were two different types of evil, one had purpose and intelligence the other was sadistic selfish hedonism.
      By today Saddam may have died of age and Ba'athists would likely have gotten rid of Uday and Qussay. Although Qussay was capable of running things, the Ba'athists were very tribal focused. The fate of brothers was tied and any discrace to the Al Mujid dynasty was taken out on the siblings, spouse and children.
      A way of cleansing the wider family of disgrace. The tribe was always gonna end up as just another inbred dynasty just without using the titles of royal and monarchy.

  • @RichardGeiszler
    @RichardGeiszler 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This explains so much of the miniseries "Generation Kill."

  • @rickv9180
    @rickv9180 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    Weird ass helmets for a fighting force

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

      Uday was a star wars fan

    • @cap.meruwkateklimana8321
      @cap.meruwkateklimana8321 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      He watched too much Star Wars original trilogy movies especially Darth Vader.

    • @TheWizardGamez
      @TheWizardGamez 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s meant to strike fear. And overwhelming sense of dread in the enemy

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@TheWizardGamez Make the enemy laugh himself to death?

    • @Michael-sl9vi
      @Michael-sl9vi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I thought he maybe copied Spaceballs too

  • @MrIraqibeast
    @MrIraqibeast 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You forgot to mention their most famous battle at the Baghdad airport

  • @avemariax8181
    @avemariax8181 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    who would have thought the hardest Iraqi fighters were Darth Vaders

  • @aceofspades1217
    @aceofspades1217 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That uniform screams “creation of dictator’s psychotic son”

  • @bassett_green
    @bassett_green 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Something that isn't mentioned here but was definitely true on the ground is the pervasive use of drugs (especially meth) in the group as a way to increase combat effectiveness

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Does that actually increase combat effectiveness, or just make your cannon fodder more fanatical? 🤔😅

    • @ifv2089
      @ifv2089 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not in the uk military it wasn't... lmfao

    • @ohnoes3084
      @ohnoes3084 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MrNicoJac it helps with giving you energy and also allowing you to still function after being shot fatally, also it makes your cannon fodder a lot less likely to care if they die

    • @SaanMigwell
      @SaanMigwell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrNicoJac How do you think France was taken in less than a month in WW2? Look up Pervitin.
      Meth/Dex/Benzies increase effectiviness for about three days, then you have to rotate that unit out and get it to sleep, if you don't they begin to deteriorate rapidly even with more drugs.
      We had the pills, but they never left Company Command, at least in my company. Others got their orders to munch their "combat pills" Three days you have super soldiers, after that they need to sleep or they start hallucinating and become paranoid. Not a good combo for 100+ men with heavy firepower at their disposal.

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@MrNicoJac There's a reason performance enhancing drugs are banned in sports.
      Tweaking surely can make you more fanatical, but purely being on speed will increase your performance. When sweatshop labor became a talking point in the West, it was reported workers on Asia were doing speed to get through multiple shifts.

  • @nathanapplegate5374
    @nathanapplegate5374 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Those guys at 2:49 look like they found the people’s lack of faith disturbing

  • @ShahjahanMasood
    @ShahjahanMasood 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what is the ost that plays in all these videos? I have been searching for years

  • @3rdGearHeroR1
    @3rdGearHeroR1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    When "Imperial Guards" doesn't quite send the message...

  • @alpinegoat2054
    @alpinegoat2054 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thank you

  • @maverickloggins5470
    @maverickloggins5470 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Goofy ass helmets lol

  • @abo3abid1
    @abo3abid1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    8:10 How to excuse yourself for slaughtering kids and destroying civil infrastructure? Just say that some random told us that was the secret. "Where is he?"... "Oh sorry he died too"

  • @maxhill9254
    @maxhill9254 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    interesting, thx

  • @user-wt2vb3dx9s
    @user-wt2vb3dx9s 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    What a lucky coincidence.... A captain saying you need to commit War crimes to Win😂 WTF kind of defence is that

    • @StevenKeery
      @StevenKeery 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      User-wt: Hamas employing the same tactics, how strange.

    • @user-wt2vb3dx9s
      @user-wt2vb3dx9s 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StevenKeery keep sugar coating your Crimes all you want.sooner or later you will run away all the same your puppets won't last milking for your Corporations

    • @kartoffelschloss6425
      @kartoffelschloss6425 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      If a religious sight is being used for military operations it is no longer a war crime to destroy it.

    • @LinkLegend0
      @LinkLegend0 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@kartoffelschloss6425 and then you create 10,000 more enemies.

  • @TeSolycMandalor
    @TeSolycMandalor 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    "Col. Dan Allen, the commander of the US 3rd Brigade combat team..." Which one??? Nearly ever division in the Army has a 3rd Brigade. But in the photo of Colonel Dan Allen he wears the 173rd Brigade patch which is a highly specialized airborne unit.

    • @SaanMigwell
      @SaanMigwell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah that's vicenza, the unit was under 1AD 3rd brigade aviation command nominally at the time.

    • @TeSolycMandalor
      @TeSolycMandalor 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SaanMigwell yeah, but that's not the issue. He's not specific. He just says "...the US 3rd Brigade Combat team." I was in 4th ID out of Ft. Carson and I was in that divisions 3rd Brigade Combat team. I didn't wear that patch. It seems he forgot the 1 hundred 70th part because I know that airborne unit goes by name, 173rd brigade combar team.

    • @SaanMigwell
      @SaanMigwell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TeSolycMandalor Yeah I know, I was just pointing out who vicenza belonged to at that time. I mean it was 21 years ago now, perhaps I've mixed it up, but I wasn't like arguing with you or anything.
      I was in 2bct 1AD 40th engineers.

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    7:18 ok, so there is a connection: Uday was a Star Wars fan boy.🤣

  • @er3947
    @er3947 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Coalition underestimated a lot of countries leaving with tails between their legs

  • @imanuelc143
    @imanuelc143 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do like sand. It's smooth and nice and pleasing and it gets everywhere.

  • @ROM_ror2
    @ROM_ror2 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun fact about the helmets, their made of fiberglass, super light apparently

  • @AmpND
    @AmpND 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you.

  • @poil8351
    @poil8351 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They look more like gundam zeon helmets than star wars.

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Here when 7,3k in 2h. This will be good

  • @orterves
    @orterves 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    11:14 compete lack of respect for the leaders on the ground and for the threat of the enemy

  • @jeffersonmanchild9271
    @jeffersonmanchild9271 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Darth Vader troopers! I remember back during the invasion there were a few dead wearing these helmets. Sorta was funny but also wigged out.

  • @lucianograff6512
    @lucianograff6512 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    surreal

  • @luxeternity
    @luxeternity 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The fedaykeen?

  • @BigBobster86
    @BigBobster86 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:38 bit of an interesting frame for Saddam's portrait.

  • @Trewazo
    @Trewazo 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    General Franks is the type of dude to say "American citizens wouldn't have a chance against the government" if a civil confrontation occurred. He has the typical "only those in the military can know military things" egotistical officer way of thinking. We literally have a whole SF group dedicated to training locals to combat criminal, insurgent and military threats and these people still think civilians can't be turned into good fighters.

  • @jonpato
    @jonpato 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Soo
    Has Lucasart sued them yet?

  • @godoforder1828
    @godoforder1828 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Immediately makes me recall Dune's Fedaykin. What does the name mean?

    • @diskopartizan0850
      @diskopartizan0850 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      'Those who sacrifice themselves (for God)'
      Herbert borrowed the word and added a K.

  • @davieWavy
    @davieWavy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would have been better as a Hardest Helmets video 😂

  • @MrSpirit99
    @MrSpirit99 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The photos need more jpeg.

  • @baghdade
    @baghdade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont know from were u got ur info, so much mistake's

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lean and mean and sometimes green fedaheen.

  • @chrismair8161
    @chrismair8161 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grainy Videos from the 1990 VHS Camcorder does nothing for myself. Try the next binge watching as I was there Shop.

  • @TXnine7nine
    @TXnine7nine 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those helmets looked more "Lord Dark Helmet" than "Darth Vader" on some of those guys 🤣

  • @redline1916
    @redline1916 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imagine getting fucked up by a bunch of guys in darth vader helmets

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Was Sadam a star wars fan

  • @matthewkuchinski1769
    @matthewkuchinski1769 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Know your enemy as well as you know yourself and you shall not be afraid even if you fight a hundred battles." --Sun Tzu, The Art of War.
    Just from seeing Franks' disregard of intelligence about the Fedayeen militia one can see he broke one of the most essential rules of warfare laid down by the great master that he and others had supposedly read.

  • @powasjington4262
    @powasjington4262 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    These were just guys who wanted to go hard for Saddam Hussein.

  • @gusfring8451
    @gusfring8451 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Some say the Fedayeen fought as hard as the Fedaykin.

  • @SusCalvin
    @SusCalvin 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A lot of dictatorships have this sort of units. Parallell security units of varied military effectiveness with tasks like coup defence, riot and uprising suppression and other security tasks.
    Hidden piles of stuff and standing orders to fall back on independent partisan warfare was part of Cold War Europe where Pact troops could initially take NATO territory.

  • @oz314
    @oz314 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Based Iraqi militia

  • @ratbatnufftime2861
    @ratbatnufftime2861 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's the Darth Vader helmets for me.......

  • @SanitysVoid
    @SanitysVoid 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got one of their Darth Vader style helmets.

  • @Zooka208
    @Zooka208 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    In August of 2003 (I think, it's been 20 plus years) we fought the remaining garrisons of fedayeen in haweja Iraq. The battle took 3 days, we assaulted at night, they knew we were coming, they lit up the oil plants to block isr and thermals. We fought through the fields into the city, pushing them across a series of creeks to the sw part of town. We weren't allowed to cross the canals and finish them off, and in 2015 isis was born in the same town.. it's my greatest regret while serving. We invaded from the north at the beginning of the war and fought south. But those 3 days, were hell on earth. The 173rd airborne, 4th infantry div, and task force dragon( b co 2/2 inf and 1/63 ar) and 10th group were apart of the operation.

    • @ifv2089
      @ifv2089 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wild times... things will never be the same again, I swear the world abandoned their kids to be raised by Google, and we are doomed to forever be educated on what we lived through on operations.

    • @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx
      @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      False. That's Not How The Boys In Black Came To Be...

    • @AlexRojas-db6yd
      @AlexRojas-db6yd 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx And you can say for sure it did not at least contribute Muhammed? Seems to me like you might have a bias. BTW if it's idolotry to even have a picture of him then why name people after him too? Your people make no sense.

    • @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx
      @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AlexRojas-db6ydBro What Are You Talking About? Prophet Muhammad Doesn't Get Drawn So People Don't Worship Him. Like How You Worship Your False Idols. God Is The Only One To Be Worshipped. No One Else But Him...
      The Iraqi Fighters Became Soldiers In OBL's War. Then They Declared Independence And Started Their Own Thing But Kept Their Ties In 2006. Their Ties With The OBL Group Was Severed Somewhere Around 2012 In Syria...

    • @ifv2089
      @ifv2089 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @AlexRojas-db6yd you bumped into Baghdad Bob... dude still hard at it! And alive still it seems
      No one panic we have defeated the Americannns
      _"The American infidelity is what is deleting them we will never be defective"_ rant rant rant 🤣

  • @tonysuthechineseguy
    @tonysuthechineseguy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not to be confused with the feydakin

  • @Shoelaces77
    @Shoelaces77 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dont mess with the guys with Darth Vader helmets

    • @rbrick3685
      @rbrick3685 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They did, Vader helmets got smoked

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reminds me of that great Bill Hicks bit about the elite republican guard 😂

  • @Afton_Robotics_1987
    @Afton_Robotics_1987 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know you're fucked when an army of Darth Vaders show up

  • @readysetmood9473
    @readysetmood9473 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    For the Iraqi's to actually held as long as they did against probably the mightiest force ever assembled on all off mankind's history.. gotta hand it to them

    • @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx
      @MuhammedAL-Chad-nz4jx 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And Iraq Only Lost 1500 Soldiers In The Gulf War. According To american Sources...

    • @marcusaurelius3487
      @marcusaurelius3487 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      and with bribed iraqi soldiers left and right

    • @tahaemad5809
      @tahaemad5809 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It would have been better but most people hated Saddam so they had no choice just to accept the invasion in hope for removing his regime that's why most of the people didn't fight during 2003 war but them joined the resistance groups after Saddam fell

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The mightiest force? The invasion force was hilariously understrength thanks to Rumsfeld era cuts.
      Iraq fought against nerfed America.

    • @marcusaurelius3487
      @marcusaurelius3487 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChucksSEADnDEAD America bribed the living shi out of Iraqi officers. 30,000 republican guards in Baghdad were ordered to hang up their uniforms and weapons and just go home