While I think they'll use the characters from 06 (like Silver, Blaze and even Mephiles), I don't think they'll end up using all of the game's story. More likely, they'll take elements and craft their own story out of them.
To think we be in a time where Sonic of all people would get a cinematic universe...it feels a yesterday where people called him the laughing stock of gaming. Man how far we've come...
If I would've told people in the 90s that video game movies would eventually become a big deal and we'd have a Sonic Cinematic Universe of all things, they probably would've looked at me like you might look at a crazy person who decided to lay down and take a nap in the middle of the floor of your local mall.
@@rickyronny4019 In alot of ways, yes. Even Frontiers in which I criticized the lack of difficulty balance in the DLC (don't feel too bad about that; I criticized that in Kingdom Hearts III too) took many MANY steps in the right direction.
@@rickyronny4019 I just hope they keep it up. I've been hearing mixed opinions on the Knuckles miniseries. Hopefully it does well enough and the third movie does extremely well.
Honestly I’m ok if Jim doesn’t return as Eggman or gets Recasted as I have tons of respect for him that it would be a great way to say Goodbye to his Movie Career, as for how they can build a Cinematic Universe the Possibilities are Endless, especially when Paramount are allowed to adapt Adventure, 06, Heroes, CD, Riders, and Colors, the way I see it this is the Most Logical and Obvious Choice to Expand the Franchise.
I really hope this Sonic movie franchise won't shut down the possibility of other Sonic movies. It'd be nice to have something like Spider-Man where the MCU and Spider-Verse can showcase drastically different styles and depictions of the characters, as well as so that this current franchise can continue to do its own thing rather than shift to be solely game adaptations or be more like the Mario movie, which other Sonic movie franchises could do.
I think the idea of the trilogy serving as an origin story and Sonic becoming more like his game counterpart is the way to go. It would also be interesting to see how the Archie series could play in to the extended Sonic movies since you can only do so much with the games alone.
Honestly, I like how your Sonic 4 goes, but I would like this where Little Plannet come to earth and brings Amy and Metal, Sonic goes through his "Moving out" arc and then He as well as Tails, Knuckles and Amy restore Little Planet and it leaves earth. They also leave shadow behind for his spin off movie and done
I like how the Sonic movies and Sonic Prime are kid-friendly and adult-friendly at the same time they're both for all audiences they're not just for kids and not just for adults and they're not as dark as some of the games or as childish as some of the games.
The idea of Sonic moving out in Sonic 4 sounds like something I could see a bunch of families relating to with kids/teens and young adults seeing themselves in Sonic, moving out of the comfort zone with their parents who they’ve been able to rely on for their whole lives up until then so they can be independent while parents could see themselves in Tom and Maddie where, whether they like it or not, they have to let their kids go so they can be their own person
I can see why people were worried that the movies would stop at 3, but tbh that was never gonna be the case. Paramount has gone on record saying they want to make more IP's, not to mention they're no stranger to long running franchises. Mission Impossible and Transformers are their biggest examples, both films 8+ movies strong. Hell, the Transformers films have been going for 15+ years now, and the Mission Impossible films have been going on almost as long as the Sonic series itself lmao.
I actually think the ideal would be the Sonic movies after 3 be animated, taking place on 'mobius'/sonic's home world , while the shadow spin-off movies/tv series, being dark and grittier, would stay live action/cgi on earth, with Shadow, Rouge, and Omega working for G.U.N.
I like to imagine a Sonic Generations movie being the ultimate celebration of the Sonic Movie universe's 10th anniversary. Us going back into certain events from the first 4 or 5 movies. And Sonic interacting with his younger self akined to Modern and Classic Sonic's interactions would be so interesting. I can imagine the plot of the film taking some elements from Sonic 06 as well like replacing the Time Eater with Mephiles for example.
Funnily enough, the issue the archie comics had and paramount is going to need to address sooner or later is the same problem the avengers are dealing with right now. Look at the avengers pre endgame and post endgame and you'll see what I'm talking about.
2:45 Yes, please. But I do like Ixis Naugus, he just wasn't handled well until 2011. And issues 201-212 didn't have Eggman, but that was meant to be temporary. Honestly, I'd want Naugus to be the new villain if they never use Eggman again.
There’s one way Sonic 3 itself can be an Avengers level threat, the first 2 movies it was just back to back Eggman ( the 2nd time around clearly higher staking than the first ) but Biolizard if he is in this movie will bump the stakes up by ALOT
Honestly its not a bad idea for me. Maybe personally I hope Sonic 3 actually gives that “moving on” arc with Sonic and ends with him going back to his home world with Tails and Knuckles and any one else introduced. If they did that it would flow better with your Sonic 4 pitch.
I definitely feel like there will be an Infinity War/Endgame-level event in the Sonic movies at some point. But I don't think it's going to be based on Sonic 06. It'll be something big, but I think it's going to be something else. Mind you, this is jumping ahead several movies, and we have to see if the movies even get to this point.
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 The story of Forces can perfectly function as a mega event divided into 2 movies, because the story of Forces is literally about Eggman conquering 99% of the world and Sonic and his friends forming a resistance, starting a war to free the world from the tyranny of Eggman's Empire. Also, this story involves many characters such as Shadow, Silver, the Chaotix, Rouge, Omega, etc... The potential is there. They just need a writer who knows how to handle the story well.
Honestly, I would not be surprised if Sonic 3 is Jim Carrey’s last Sonic film. Because, I do agree that future Sonic movies can move on without him. As we all know, Jim Carrey isn’t really a sequel guy. But The Sonic Movie sequels are an exception. Since Jim just passionately loves playing Robotnik as his character evolves a lot. And since, Sonic Movie 3 is gonna go deep into the Robotnik’s family lore. (Such as Gerald and Maria, because of Shadow.) So, I think Sonic 3 should be the best open door to give Jim Carrey’s Robotnik closure in his trilogy arc. I would be surprised, if he returns for a 4th Sonic film. But I doubt it! I say future Sonic films should tackle on other villians like Metal Sonic, Chaos, Mephilles, and many more from the Sonic franchise.
I'd be fine with this. I think it would be better to leave behind the more realistic locations only to be revisited or referenced occasionally. We've had his origin story, now he's gotta do his own thing. It worries me a bit though. Just because Mario did well doesn't mean Sonic will. Doesn't mean they shouldn't try though.
@@ChannelPupTake that robot idea... And throw it into the void. Because SEGA will NEVER allow that. I know this was a pitch of your creation. But Eggman becoming a robot ain't happening, ever.
5:00 I’m actually a Naugus fan who wants him to come back and be canon as much as I want the Freedom Fighters cast to come back. That character works as a great foil to Eggman and a good reoccurring bad guy for Sonic. Honestly he’s in my top 5 villains for this franchise. Of course he’s not Eggman, he’ll always be number one, but I’d love to see this horrid rat faced bastard make a comeback.
With the Sonic x Shadow Generations bringing him back, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a Black Doom cameo or ending credit scene. Shadow the Hedgehog is the second most popular character in the franchise, Paramount has the potential to make a lot of money with a Shadow spinoff especially with Keanu Reeves as Shadow.
I think the problem with that is that the Knuckles TV series allegedly features a gang of Black Market arms dealers called The Black Arms. They could retcon that though I guess.
@@ChannelPup They can also give them a new name when adapting them, heck they could probably get away with not using the name and just refer to them as Black Doom's Invasion force or something.
I always said they could go the Archie route and make Robotnik into Robo-Robotnik/Eggman. Here what I would predict would happen at the end of S3. After his 3rd lost to Sonic and his allies, he would retreat into the shadows. He would have Agent Stone sent out to recruit potential followers, empty out all his black sites to build his robotic army, using Sonic’s quill he would be in the first phase of building Metal Sonic. Since he seen what portal rings can do, he could replicate that and send his followers and armies to establish footholds in different corners of the universe. This would mark the beginning of the Eggman Empire. As for Sonic n the gang, Sonic and Tails would leave Earth together. Sonic would want to travel to sharpen his skills as a hero and gain better experience. Tails would still be in the sidekick phase but steadily grow n become more of a partner and hero in his own right. Knuckles would stay on Earth to protect the ME and safeguard the planet his Sonic’s place.
6:35 after the KNUCKLES SHOW I say DON"T REBOOT THE UNIVERSE note: Yes, the knuckles show made me NOT want a reboot and I am being serious, (don't kill me)
We NEED Paramount to see this video. I know they will definitely introduce characters everyone is familiar with like Amy or Rouge, but Silver and Metal Sonic are seriously some of my favorites. With the success of the Mario movie, I'm sure they would want to make the Sonic movies more of a Sonic world. Earth is fine but imagine if we get to see more into the actual island Sonic lived in? Or maybe even Studiopolis Zone! (My favorite) PARAMOUNT LISTEN TO YOUR FANS, YOU'RE ALREADY SO GOOD AT DOING IT!
Your idea of Sonic Movie 4 transitioning to a fully animated series isn't that dissimilar to what the MonsterVerse is doing right now since it's slowly phasing the human characters out and the scenes that only focus on the kaiju are becoming more frequent.
Things I want the Sonic movie franchise to do: -adapt Sonic 06 and do its concept justice -adapt Sonic Unleashed. Seeing live action Super Sonic vs Dark Gaia would be amazing -DONT adapt Sonic Forces -showcase Sonic and the Mobians’ homeworld. Maybe work that into a Sonic Unleashed movie -adapt Sonic Frontiers. A live action Starfall Islands would probably be incredible. These are simple requests, but they are things I would kill for
You said it would be Pup Pitches video, and you certainly delivered! It feels odd for you to have provided such a gift to us when it is YOUR birthday. Your ideas, as usual, are pretty great. I felt that introducing Silver so early would be a careless move, but using him to establish the ultimate "fail state" of the incoming adventures (Eggman conquers the universe if Sonic and Pals fail) is a really cool idea I would not have thought of. Especially because this makes the fact that Eggman was successful in being revived and launching the Death Egg all the more important. We know where things go thanks to Silver, and we have seen Eggman take the first step thanks to Sonic 4. The stakes are raised for the next adventures. Bravo. I also must gush: The fact that you used the Archie Robo-Robotnik arc to explain the issues that a Sonic without Robotnik could face and simultaneously to subtly introduce us to the idea of a robo-replacement Robotnik that you would later use as a multi-faceted solution and plot point in your pitch was an astounding example of great script-writing. I had to give praise for that, it impressed me so much. You put so much thought into so many parts of this idea, and you got it all across really succinctly. Your editing has been good for some time, but your script-work is very under-appreciated. That is enough of me splurging my dumb thoughts at you for one comment, I think. Amazing work on this video, I hope it does well because I definitely want more of them. [Edit: Fixed typos]
They need to first slow down this is always the biggest problem for moving forward they try to take on too many projects and end up ruining everything. They need to really pay attention to the source material, but also avoid some of the mistakes that’s also been made by their forte as well. Having the characters have their own spin off series for tv shows is a good step for more development. Tho I think having the humans involved isn’t necessary plus the villains need to threatening the comics for Sonic is an huge inspiration. {Edit haha we had the same idea AI Eggman with metal sonic}
Dude, the fact he has THOSE RINGS, means that even a collision with MARIO is possible. If Sony(Paramount is being bought) Warner Bros, and Universal work together then SMASH BROS. is ABSOLUTELY on the table.
Honestly, ever since there was concerns that Jim Carrey would never return to the role, I’ve said that perhaps a good direction to take would be to have agent stone become the lead villain of the movie series and have him adopt the name “Eggman” as his super villain title in honor of his fallen mentor/crush. Obviously, I would love it if Jim Carrey could continue playing the role, but that is an unrealistic expectation. Unless the series last only a couple more years inevitably they’re going to have to consider the possibility that Jim might want to retire (which he is completely entitled to.)
I think the idea of animation I think there should be SONIC MOVIE/SHOWS that are just CGI , but when I am talking about this I mean like the LION KING REMAKE MOVIE, with the same models and ''realistsic'' CGI graphics
I know everyone is tired of the multiverse, but I still want to see Sonic pull a NWH/Spider-Verse, and crossover with other versions of himself from throughout his history, because Sonic Prime didn't do that, even though it totally could've, and I want to see that happen so bad Yes it's cheap fan service, and fan service for the sake of it doesn't always pay off (see Multiverse of Madness and the Flash), but if you get the right team of writers together who understand what made each of these different versions work, and you could get something really special. And... it would be the perfect opportunity to bring back the Freedom Fighters... Which they should do anyway, because they're awesome, but honestly a big crossover cash cow like this is probably the best chance of us ever seeing them again officially, which is just... Really sad
These are my crazy ideas for an Archie continuation. The Final Storyline leads to the Subspace Emissary. Ian Droid = Abraham Robotnik (baby killer) = Tabuu
The nanites from A.D.A.M control the R.O.B.s, Ian Droid is not really Ian Brandon Anderson Droid, but a version of Robotnik who became a geneticist as opposed to a roboticist who later turns into Tabuu after obtaining hidden ancient powers related to the Ixis Masterworks. He is not truly alive and has no soul. He's a vessel for The End. Ivan and Ivo are brothers and Robo-Robotnik is an imposter shaping his body off a dead corpse. The First Robotnik and the one to start the Robotnik lineage before Earth was Earth, Abraham Robotnik the baby killer. Mobius is the 4th World after the 3 Worlds have ended. The Dark Legion is actually a recruitment scheme for the Ancient Ministers who run the Nocturnus Illuminati and they team up with Imperitor Ix and ditch the Dark Egg Legion. There are Four Great Cilivations tied to the orgins of the Chaos Emeralds, the Illuminati, and the Demiurge. BEM are the remains of the Annunaki lizard race who left behind Zetas who hid colonies of Archon like Xorda to evolve mankind and are versions of humans who have pitch black dark eyes. Xorda aliens have DNA sequences that spell YHWH. Robotnik is the Demiurge. Zone Cops serve the Demiurge. The Sky Empire (Sonic Chrono Adventure) controls Mobius behind the scenes. Battle Kakku are exiled dwellers of the Sky Empire along with the rest of the "lambs". There was a spaceship seen in Ben Hurst drafts for SATAM Season 3. Julian's lineage inherited the Earth "Planet of the Apes" while another lineage set up the events to create an artificial Earth known as the Fleetway timeline. Ivan wanted to be a God and was jealous of Ivo so as Ian he helps plant seeds for Julian, but Julian betrays him. Everyone from Archie is the Reincarnation of Sonic X cast. Cosmo the Seedrian after her death is a goddess responsible for reincarnation. The Day of Fury happened on August 12th 2036, the Heat Death of the Universe. Solaris was involved and the 2000s storyline revolves around the aftermath of Sonic 06 and Sonic X. The Empire of Solanna and GUN were corrupt and lead to the overexploitation and destruction of Earth. SCP Foundation funds the Zone Cops, SCP Foundation hates Blaze, SCP Foundation survived the Xorda attack. SCP Foundation serves the Demiurge. Dark Legion serves the Logos. Aurora serves the Mythos and the Demiurge. Ivan / Ian is a clone of Chris Chan who is the anti-Christ who become a bad Pokemon egg and traveled his soul back to 06/06/06 to be reborn and was tied to the Demiurge. The Metarex are back and they want the Planet Egg to understand the meaning of Memes, the DNA of the soul.
Sonic, Sonic 2, Knuckles Series, Sonic 3, Shadow series, Shadow Movie, Knuckles season 2, Sonic Heroes, Shadow season 2. Sonic 06/Colors. Wrap things up in the sense that they can’t develop the characters anymore, the world already knows about all the Sonic Heroes and aliens and such. So it’s implied they just continue adventuring and fighting whatever whimsy threat shows its face. Going forward, announce a Paramount animated Sonic movie in the vein of Sonic Unleashed with original plots and more wacky ideas and locations. Doesn’t need to be tied to the live action movies. But Sonic in movies will be well known enough for it to require less character introduction and world building.
I'm good for them cribbing the Robo-Robotnik concept but as charismatic and well-received as Agent Stone is, I'd almost rather he take up the Robotnik name and be the last vestige of real life human in the Sonic films and shows going forward. I love the pitch tho, Pup! Well done as always and happy belated birthday!
I think it would be better to let Metal fill the gap left by eggman for a trilogy rather than instantly turning around creating a new "eggman" immediately after the third film. It would feel like less of a cop out and also make more sense for Metal Sonic to only resort to bringing his creator back after losing very thoroughly.
Sonic has a lot of potencial to have more movies, is not like Eggman is the only villiain in the franchise i think that most people fear that cause is so easy to see Paramount executives deciding to pull the plug on the Sonic movies if (more like when) Jim Carrey retires completely
@@gameral4235 true, heard that on the list of future Paramount productions there´s a new movie so i guess its possible they´re considering that possibility
Genuinely, might be the best idea I have heard for the potential Sonic 4 Wow, like this was not only really creative, but like it seems fun and leaves the door open for more afterwards not just a crammed movie. Granted I believe whatever they do for this 4th movie, I believe it should be spiderverse style, atleast split between 2 movies but one continuous story
I just don't see any Eggman working in this iteration that isn't Jim Carrey. He has already become so iconic and made such an impression on these characters that bringing in someone else would feel kinda cheap. Yeah, it's *technically* not the same Eggman, but he serves the same narrative function and just lacks Jim's quirky energy, so he basically is a recast. And for the same reasons Pup stated, a Sonic timeline can't survive for long without the fat man causing trouble, so a reboot is the only way I see Sonic films going forward.
Ive imagined for awhile that they create a human/animation hybrid model of Sage and she instructs Stone on how to run things until they can get a new Robotnik
And the things don’t even have to be exactly like the games as much as we think or want, metal sonic could totally be power scaled up and be a way bigger threat and go neo metal at the end of a movie, any villain can be scaled up to be stronger than the last or than their game counterpart, chaos could happen after these movies he doesn’t have to be before shadow, he could be a huge final universe battle
Infact in my opinion chaos SHOULD happen after shadow and after everything because he is and can be such a huge final threat, he’s tied into the chaos emerald and everything so perfectly just like thanos
only way people would be hyped for the Sonic multiverse would be if Zonic the Zonecop was cannon. Because than that just connects every Sonic spin off ever. Like Prime would have been hype if it was different Robotniks we new but it wasn't
a creative solution for Eggman but most of this feels more like fanfare than a realistic option. For one thing, while I don't think the Mario movie is to be "ignored" per say, it's not like the Sonic Cinematic Universe will take this drastic of a shift for it. I highly doubt these movie studios thought that the reason the Mario movie did so well is because of the fully animated approach. If that were the case we would be seeing way more fully animated movies & less of these live action adaptations. Also the hypothetical movie proposed has almost too many characters at once. But I understand this is under the presumption movie three will be bringing in several characters and not just Shadow. However I think they will be drip feed into the universe for content. Having said all of that, an animated Eggman is actually a neat idea. That could work while keeping Sonic & Eggman on Earth. I know Sonic fans (well some of them) don't care for the human characters but they are a part of this world. The TV show seems to be expanding on this too. While Sonic will get more independent and do more exploring on his own with his friends, Earth will certainly be center stage. Partly cause I'm sure it's cheaper too
dude, this idea is SICK. i want this to happen so baaaad. I do think the interstellar amuzement park and silver could be in a different movie though. Blaze should also be introduced with Silver.
tbh i think itd be cool if after eggmans death, if agent stone kinda took over in honor of robotnik directing all the badniks or smth and becoming an actual villain
If they do decide to keep making these movies live action,can the next one please be an adaptation of Unleashed? The game being a globe-trotting adventure,filled with humans,and having a cinematic feel would be a perfect fit for these movies.
I feel like the universe should also try to keep it simple with it's general premise. As fun as "sonic 4, episode 1" sounds, I feel like that would already start to make the universe feel over saturated. Instead of taking notes from universes like marvel or Star wars, I feel like the sonic universe should take notes from universes like the monsterverse. Keep it simple while also making sure the films have (somewhat) self contained stories with an over arching narrative. Kind of what the MCU did back in it's prime. I also want to mention that villains like perfect chaos or metal sonic alone could serve as great replacements for robotic if we really have to cut him out completely. I am all for a completely animated robotnic being in this franchise, I just feel like it should also come more naturally to ease audiences into this idea of a robotic eggman.
This is actually a really great idea! I hope they do something like this. Though considering all the focus they're putting on G.U.N., and how Sonic's exploits are affecting and changing Earth, I'd expect perhaps the fourth movie might just be a Robotnik-less plot that sees Sonic and co. dealing with other problems that arose from Sonic's conflict with the Doctor, and maybe have Robotnik's big return in the fifth movie (with a little teaser at the end of the fourth no doubt).
@@Sammy-34079 Sounds like you're either a troll or someone upset that the Mario movie and Sonic movies have proven profitable. I can excuse the improper grammar on the fact English might not be your first language, but the Mario movie and Sonic films are arguably better made than most of the recent MCU projects. Last MCU project I thoroughly enjoyed was Spider-Man No Way Home. And NWH was released in 2021. Everything MCU after that so far has either been meh, okay at best, or just not good.
Having a robot Eggman would be like having the utrom Shredder Ch'rell in TMNT 2003. It just doesn't feel right to have a non-human version of the main villain replacing the previous incarnation. The writing can have him be killed off permanently and return again with no explanation and you can just go back and forth on this with no real sense of direction. As for the multiverse idea? They can either just repeat like what they did in the flash by showing pre-existing iterations of other Sonic media (i.e. portals to the Archie/DiC universe, Sonic X universe, video games, ova universe, boom, etc.) It can be established here that the video games all along have always been separate in their own universe and firmly establishing that modern and classic Sonic are indeed their own separate entities, clearing up for the last time that two different Sonics and the two worlds theory have always been a thing in the video games and almost every game in the mainline series has been set in its own universe. That's the only way how I can see this happening for any other problems people may still have with the overall lore. But obviously this doesn't mean it's going to be a crossover event, just cameo visual eye candy for a brief moment or scene. I haven't seen the third season of Sonic Prime yet, but so far I don't think it's that bad. It's just like Sonic Boom honestly. A generic Sonic TV show with a plot that tries to be like a comic book multiverse story where the alternate worlds are just original made-up varients of the main world from where the main heroes originate from. You know, alternate/parellel world stories or tropes before multiverse movies became a thing. Otherwise, since the illumination Mario movies are also going to have a shared universe, this can still be the opportunity for the fully animated Sonic and Mario worlds to cross paths and if other video game movies get made down the road (animated ones at least), we can finally have a Mario vs Sonic movie followed by the Super Smash Bros movie. Although I feel like you can still put Angrry Birds, Mortal Kombat, Detective Pikachu, Legend of Zelda and Minecraft in there, regardless if they originated as live-action films. We as the audience will just have to flow with it that they're now in animated form and move on. Like what Channel Pup said, you can have it both ways. That's Star Wars right now with having one timeline being depicted in both animated and live-action form. It's not rocket science.
@@Sammy-34079That’s such a good opinion buddy! You are such a good independent thinker! So glad you graduated from elementary recently too! You’re such a hard worker!
What if, hear me out, Robotnik dies but before he died he ‘implanted’ his consciousness into something or someone else. If it’s a robot then I guess it would be fine but I believe it would be better if somehow Robotnik ‘brainwashes’ someone else and they physiologically become egg man in some type of way, then because of the brainwash and personality change, they change their appearance to be more like how eggman normally looks. Moustache, belly, suit and all. Could be a good way of recasting the actor and making it the same character within the story, but this could just be wishful thinking 😅😎🔥
i love the thumbnail....especially how Sonic looks.....that's how he should look in the third film......darker quills are enough but what about making him...a little taller...still make him Movie Sonic at the core so no major changes like connected eyes or tan arms ....but make him coolel and less cute, maybe give him the adventure smile too......IT WOULD HYPE US TO DEATH MAKE IT HAPPEN Paramunt....i know you wont, but please....do it
Imagine if Sonic 06 was treated as an Infinity War/Endgame style two parter, would be the ultimate redemption arc
Sega Better make a remake to that game making it similar to project 06 so then the movies can definitely make that type of movie
06 needs to be adapted. we need to see mephiles again
Just fix the story
While I think they'll use the characters from 06 (like Silver, Blaze and even Mephiles), I don't think they'll end up using all of the game's story. More likely, they'll take elements and craft their own story out of them.
@@SBabyObv duh, literally what they did with S3&K to Sonic Movie 2
To think we be in a time where Sonic of all people would get a cinematic universe...it feels a yesterday where people called him the laughing stock of gaming. Man how far we've come...
If I would've told people in the 90s that video game movies would eventually become a big deal and we'd have a Sonic Cinematic Universe of all things, they probably would've looked at me like you might look at a crazy person who decided to lay down and take a nap in the middle of the floor of your local mall.
Despite its highs and lows. Sonic has come a long way
@@rickyronny4019 In alot of ways, yes. Even Frontiers in which I criticized the lack of difficulty balance in the DLC (don't feel too bad about that; I criticized that in Kingdom Hearts III too) took many MANY steps in the right direction.
@@SBaby agreed. Sonic’s been doing well this decade
@@rickyronny4019 I just hope they keep it up. I've been hearing mixed opinions on the Knuckles miniseries. Hopefully it does well enough and the third movie does extremely well.
8:28 holy sh*t he got it right
Honestly I’m ok if Jim doesn’t return as Eggman or gets Recasted as I have tons of respect for him that it would be a great way to say Goodbye to his Movie Career, as for how they can build a Cinematic Universe the Possibilities are Endless, especially when Paramount are allowed to adapt Adventure, 06, Heroes, CD, Riders, and Colors, the way I see it this is the Most Logical and Obvious Choice to Expand the Franchise.
THERE ARE ENDLESS POSSIBILITIEEEEEEEES
That thumbnail is the most cleanest rendition of movie sonic
I really hope this Sonic movie franchise won't shut down the possibility of other Sonic movies. It'd be nice to have something like Spider-Man where the MCU and Spider-Verse can showcase drastically different styles and depictions of the characters, as well as so that this current franchise can continue to do its own thing rather than shift to be solely game adaptations or be more like the Mario movie, which other Sonic movie franchises could do.
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Sonic has actually lost his rings. Unless knuckles has some spare, he’ll just run lol.
I think the idea of the trilogy serving as an origin story and Sonic becoming more like his game counterpart is the way to go. It would also be interesting to see how the Archie series could play in to the extended Sonic movies since you can only do so much with the games alone.
Doubt we would see the Archie cast back. They would probably do something with or like the IDW comics
@@motherfuckingenterprises7436 I don’t need characters personally. Just some story arcs.
I like this idea. It seems to be the Avengers Endgame of Sonic, pulling out all the stops from Sonic's deep library.
In my opinion, the final bosses NEED to be mephiles and ibilis
Honestly, I like how your Sonic 4 goes, but I would like this where Little Plannet come to earth and brings Amy and Metal, Sonic goes through his "Moving out" arc and then He as well as Tails, Knuckles and Amy restore Little Planet and it leaves earth. They also leave shadow behind for his spin off movie and done
I really like that idea because it gives Paramount the options for several more Sonic movies.
I like how the Sonic movies and Sonic Prime are kid-friendly and adult-friendly at the same time they're both for all audiences they're not just for kids and not just for adults and they're not as dark as some of the games or as childish as some of the games.
The idea of Sonic moving out in Sonic 4 sounds like something I could see a bunch of families relating to with kids/teens and young adults seeing themselves in Sonic, moving out of the comfort zone with their parents who they’ve been able to rely on for their whole lives up until then so they can be independent while parents could see themselves in Tom and Maddie where, whether they like it or not, they have to let their kids go so they can be their own person
I can see why people were worried that the movies would stop at 3, but tbh that was never gonna be the case. Paramount has gone on record saying they want to make more IP's, not to mention they're no stranger to long running franchises. Mission Impossible and Transformers are their biggest examples, both films 8+ movies strong. Hell, the Transformers films have been going for 15+ years now, and the Mission Impossible films have been going on almost as long as the Sonic series itself lmao.
I actually think the ideal would be the Sonic movies after 3 be animated, taking place on 'mobius'/sonic's home world , while the shadow spin-off movies/tv series, being dark and grittier, would stay live action/cgi on earth, with Shadow, Rouge, and Omega working for G.U.N.
I like to imagine a Sonic Generations movie being the ultimate celebration of the Sonic Movie universe's 10th anniversary. Us going back into certain events from the first 4 or 5 movies. And Sonic interacting with his younger self akined to Modern and Classic Sonic's interactions would be so interesting. I can imagine the plot of the film taking some elements from Sonic 06 as well like replacing the Time Eater with Mephiles for example.
I imagine Sonic 4 would be about Time Travel and Sonic 5 dealing with Ancient Water Being, Chaos.
Funnily enough, the issue the archie comics had and paramount is going to need to address sooner or later is the same problem the avengers are dealing with right now. Look at the avengers pre endgame and post endgame and you'll see what I'm talking about.
2:45 Yes, please. But I do like Ixis Naugus, he just wasn't handled well until 2011. And issues 201-212 didn't have Eggman, but that was meant to be temporary. Honestly, I'd want Naugus to be the new villain if they never use Eggman again.
One of the movies should feature Sonic Riders, So that we can have Sonic on a hoverboard, and racing against Jet and Wave.
It would be cool to have a race with several characters and a crazy prize behind it
yeah that would be a spin off movie
There’s one way Sonic 3 itself can be an Avengers level threat, the first 2 movies it was just back to back Eggman ( the 2nd time around clearly higher staking than the first ) but Biolizard if he is in this movie will bump the stakes up by ALOT
And Shadow.
@@CaptainF123 Yes, and Shadow too. Arguably on his own
Honestly its not a bad idea for me. Maybe personally I hope Sonic 3 actually gives that “moving on” arc with Sonic and ends with him going back to his home world with Tails and Knuckles and any one else introduced. If they did that it would flow better with your Sonic 4 pitch.
I definitely feel like there will be an Infinity War/Endgame-level event in the Sonic movies at some point. But I don't think it's going to be based on Sonic 06. It'll be something big, but I think it's going to be something else. Mind you, this is jumping ahead several movies, and we have to see if the movies even get to this point.
Sonic Forces' story but good?
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 The story of Forces can perfectly function as a mega event divided into 2 movies, because the story of Forces is literally about Eggman conquering 99% of the world and Sonic and his friends forming a resistance, starting a war to free the world from the tyranny of Eggman's Empire. Also, this story involves many characters such as Shadow, Silver, the Chaotix, Rouge, Omega, etc... The potential is there. They just need a writer who knows how to handle the story well.
This honestly sounds like an interesting and incredible idea. I can honestly see this being the future of this series.
Your intro is a vibe🔥 Supa Dope
Honestly, I would not be surprised if Sonic 3 is Jim Carrey’s last Sonic film.
Because, I do agree that future Sonic movies can move on without him.
As we all know, Jim Carrey isn’t really a sequel guy.
But The Sonic Movie sequels are an exception.
Since Jim just passionately loves playing Robotnik as his character evolves a lot.
And since, Sonic Movie 3 is gonna go deep into the Robotnik’s family lore.
(Such as Gerald and Maria, because of Shadow.)
So, I think Sonic 3 should be the best open door to give Jim Carrey’s Robotnik closure in his trilogy arc.
I would be surprised, if he returns for a 4th Sonic film. But I doubt it!
I say future Sonic films should tackle on other villians like Metal Sonic, Chaos, Mephilles, and many more from the Sonic franchise.
ur so dumb.
I'd be fine with this. I think it would be better to leave behind the more realistic locations only to be revisited or referenced occasionally. We've had his origin story, now he's gotta do his own thing. It worries me a bit though. Just because Mario did well doesn't mean Sonic will. Doesn't mean they shouldn't try though.
It leaves them the option of returning to it full time if fully animated doesn't work out.
@@ChannelPup BTW, Wachowski is pronounced Wha-Cow-Ski.
@@ChannelPupTake that robot idea... And throw it into the void. Because SEGA will NEVER allow that. I know this was a pitch of your creation. But Eggman becoming a robot ain't happening, ever.
@@dragonborn7955 this means the movies might end after 3.
5:00 I’m actually a Naugus fan who wants him to come back and be canon as much as I want the Freedom Fighters cast to come back. That character works as a great foil to Eggman and a good reoccurring bad guy for Sonic. Honestly he’s in my top 5 villains for this franchise. Of course he’s not Eggman, he’ll always be number one, but I’d love to see this horrid rat faced bastard make a comeback.
With the Sonic x Shadow Generations bringing him back, I wouldn’t be surprised if we got a Black Doom cameo or ending credit scene. Shadow the Hedgehog is the second most popular character in the franchise, Paramount has the potential to make a lot of money with a Shadow spinoff especially with Keanu Reeves as Shadow.
I think the problem with that is that the Knuckles TV series allegedly features a gang of Black Market arms dealers called The Black Arms. They could retcon that though I guess.
@@ChannelPup They can also give them a new name when adapting them, heck they could probably get away with not using the name and just refer to them as Black Doom's Invasion force or something.
Something we already knew they were planning to do for a few years but at least now are actually thinking about it.
I always said they could go the Archie route and make Robotnik into Robo-Robotnik/Eggman. Here what I would predict would happen at the end of S3. After his 3rd lost to Sonic and his allies, he would retreat into the shadows. He would have Agent Stone sent out to recruit potential followers, empty out all his black sites to build his robotic army, using Sonic’s quill he would be in the first phase of building Metal Sonic. Since he seen what portal rings can do, he could replicate that and send his followers and armies to establish footholds in different corners of the universe. This would mark the beginning of the Eggman Empire. As for Sonic n the gang, Sonic and Tails would leave Earth together. Sonic would want to travel to sharpen his skills as a hero and gain better experience. Tails would still be in the sidekick phase but steadily grow n become more of a partner and hero in his own right. Knuckles would stay on Earth to protect the ME and safeguard the planet his Sonic’s place.
6:35 after the KNUCKLES SHOW I say DON"T REBOOT THE UNIVERSE
note: Yes, the knuckles show made me NOT want a reboot and I am being serious, (don't kill me)
We NEED Paramount to see this video. I know they will definitely introduce characters everyone is familiar with like Amy or Rouge, but Silver and Metal Sonic are seriously some of my favorites. With the success of the Mario movie, I'm sure they would want to make the Sonic movies more of a Sonic world. Earth is fine but imagine if we get to see more into the actual island Sonic lived in? Or maybe even Studiopolis Zone! (My favorite) PARAMOUNT LISTEN TO YOUR FANS, YOU'RE ALREADY SO GOOD AT DOING IT!
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Your idea of Sonic Movie 4 transitioning to a fully animated series isn't that dissimilar to what the MonsterVerse is doing right now since it's slowly phasing the human characters out and the scenes that only focus on the kaiju are becoming more frequent.
I wouldn't like that.
@@Mugen2024 who cares what you like, your a slub for boring slop by Paramount.
@@Mugen2024 I would. The other worlds acting as the Hollow Earth sound fine to me.
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As soon as I heard "Silver the Hedgehog!" and Dreams of an Absolution, I got mad goosebumps. 😅
Man, a movie Silver would be amazing!
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Things I want the Sonic movie franchise to do:
-adapt Sonic 06 and do its concept justice
-adapt Sonic Unleashed. Seeing live action Super Sonic vs Dark Gaia would be amazing
-DONT adapt Sonic Forces
-showcase Sonic and the Mobians’ homeworld. Maybe work that into a Sonic Unleashed movie
-adapt Sonic Frontiers. A live action Starfall Islands would probably be incredible.
These are simple requests, but they are things I would kill for
You said it would be Pup Pitches video, and you certainly delivered! It feels odd for you to have provided such a gift to us when it is YOUR birthday.
Your ideas, as usual, are pretty great. I felt that introducing Silver so early would be a careless move, but using him to establish the ultimate "fail state" of the incoming adventures (Eggman conquers the universe if Sonic and Pals fail) is a really cool idea I would not have thought of. Especially because this makes the fact that Eggman was successful in being revived and launching the Death Egg all the more important. We know where things go thanks to Silver, and we have seen Eggman take the first step thanks to Sonic 4. The stakes are raised for the next adventures. Bravo.
I also must gush: The fact that you used the Archie Robo-Robotnik arc to explain the issues that a Sonic without Robotnik could face and simultaneously to subtly introduce us to the idea of a robo-replacement Robotnik that you would later use as a multi-faceted solution and plot point in your pitch was an astounding example of great script-writing. I had to give praise for that, it impressed me so much.
You put so much thought into so many parts of this idea, and you got it all across really succinctly. Your editing has been good for some time, but your script-work is very under-appreciated.
That is enough of me splurging my dumb thoughts at you for one comment, I think. Amazing work on this video, I hope it does well because I definitely want more of them.
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Thank you so much, ArtHollow, it means a lot!
@@ChannelPup You are most welcome, Pup. I am happy to bring a little joy.
Thank you for the great work you are putting out.
Can’t wait for the chaotics film
They need to first slow down this is always the biggest problem for moving forward they try to take on too many projects and end up ruining everything. They need to really pay attention to the source material, but also avoid some of the mistakes that’s also been made by their forte as well. Having the characters have their own spin off series for tv shows is a good step for more development. Tho I think having the humans involved isn’t necessary plus the villains need to threatening the comics for Sonic is an huge inspiration. {Edit haha we had the same idea AI Eggman with metal sonic}
Dude, the fact he has THOSE RINGS, means that even a collision with MARIO is possible. If Sony(Paramount is being bought) Warner Bros, and Universal work together then SMASH BROS. is ABSOLUTELY on the table.
Happy Birthday and thanks for the spectacular video, Pup: Praying this next year of life is your BEST one yet🤩🎉🙏
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We're gonna hold you to that milk thing.
Honestly, ever since there was concerns that Jim Carrey would never return to the role, I’ve said that perhaps a good direction to take would be to have agent stone become the lead villain of the movie series and have him adopt the name “Eggman” as his super villain title in honor of his fallen mentor/crush.
Obviously, I would love it if Jim Carrey could continue playing the role, but that is an unrealistic expectation. Unless the series last only a couple more years inevitably they’re going to have to consider the possibility that Jim might want to retire (which he is completely entitled to.)
I think the idea of animation I think there should be SONIC MOVIE/SHOWS that are just CGI
, but when I am talking about this I mean like the LION KING REMAKE MOVIE, with the same models and ''realistsic'' CGI graphics
Honestly I love the idea of agent stone picking up the eggman mantle and becoming the new robotnick, giving us a different take on the character
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@@Sammy-34079 ok
I know everyone is tired of the multiverse, but I still want to see Sonic pull a NWH/Spider-Verse, and crossover with other versions of himself from throughout his history, because Sonic Prime didn't do that, even though it totally could've, and I want to see that happen so bad
Yes it's cheap fan service, and fan service for the sake of it doesn't always pay off (see Multiverse of Madness and the Flash), but if you get the right team of writers together who understand what made each of these different versions work, and you could get something really special.
And... it would be the perfect opportunity to bring back the Freedom Fighters... Which they should do anyway, because they're awesome, but honestly a big crossover cash cow like this is probably the best chance of us ever seeing them again officially, which is just... Really sad
If the Pre-Reboot Archie Universe is restored, we will truly be living in the good future 🤷♂️
Not going to happen. You would need to make copyright free versions of all of Archie's characters.
These are my crazy ideas for an Archie continuation. The Final Storyline leads to the Subspace Emissary. Ian Droid = Abraham Robotnik (baby killer) = Tabuu
The nanites from A.D.A.M control the R.O.B.s, Ian Droid is not really Ian Brandon Anderson Droid, but a version of Robotnik who became a geneticist as opposed to a roboticist who later turns into Tabuu after obtaining hidden ancient powers related to the Ixis Masterworks. He is not truly alive and has no soul. He's a vessel for The End. Ivan and Ivo are brothers and Robo-Robotnik is an imposter shaping his body off a dead corpse. The First Robotnik and the one to start the Robotnik lineage before Earth was Earth, Abraham Robotnik the baby killer. Mobius is the 4th World after the 3 Worlds have ended. The Dark Legion is actually a recruitment scheme for the Ancient Ministers who run the Nocturnus Illuminati and they team up with Imperitor Ix and ditch the Dark Egg Legion. There are Four Great Cilivations tied to the orgins of the Chaos Emeralds, the Illuminati, and the Demiurge. BEM are the remains of the Annunaki lizard race who left behind Zetas who hid colonies of Archon like Xorda to evolve mankind and are versions of humans who have pitch black dark eyes. Xorda aliens have DNA sequences that spell YHWH. Robotnik is the Demiurge. Zone Cops serve the Demiurge. The Sky Empire (Sonic Chrono Adventure) controls Mobius behind the scenes. Battle Kakku are exiled dwellers of the Sky Empire along with the rest of the "lambs". There was a spaceship seen in Ben Hurst drafts for SATAM Season 3. Julian's lineage inherited the Earth "Planet of the Apes" while another lineage set up the events to create an artificial Earth known as the Fleetway timeline. Ivan wanted to be a God and was jealous of Ivo so as Ian he helps plant seeds for Julian, but Julian betrays him. Everyone from Archie is the Reincarnation of Sonic X cast. Cosmo the Seedrian after her death is a goddess responsible for reincarnation. The Day of Fury happened on August 12th 2036, the Heat Death of the Universe. Solaris was involved and the 2000s storyline revolves around the aftermath of Sonic 06 and Sonic X. The Empire of Solanna and GUN were corrupt and lead to the overexploitation and destruction of Earth. SCP Foundation funds the Zone Cops, SCP Foundation hates Blaze, SCP Foundation survived the Xorda attack. SCP Foundation serves the Demiurge. Dark Legion serves the Logos. Aurora serves the Mythos and the Demiurge. Ivan / Ian is a clone of Chris Chan who is the anti-Christ who become a bad Pokemon egg and traveled his soul back to 06/06/06 to be reborn and was tied to the Demiurge. The Metarex are back and they want the Planet Egg to understand the meaning of Memes, the DNA of the soul.
@@MrRobot2027-wd9iw 🤦♂️ Sega owns all of the characters. Ken Penders is a nut.
Damn this is a really good idea
Sonic, Sonic 2, Knuckles Series, Sonic 3, Shadow series, Shadow Movie, Knuckles season 2, Sonic Heroes, Shadow season 2. Sonic 06/Colors.
Wrap things up in the sense that they can’t develop the characters anymore, the world already knows about all the Sonic Heroes and aliens and such. So it’s implied they just continue adventuring and fighting whatever whimsy threat shows its face.
Going forward, announce a Paramount animated Sonic movie in the vein of Sonic Unleashed with original plots and more wacky ideas and locations. Doesn’t need to be tied to the live action movies. But Sonic in movies will be well known enough for it to require less character introduction and world building.
I like the idea you have for Sonic Movie 4. I think if they have Silver in the 4th movie I would love to see Blaze and see how they do her storyline
Imagine Sonic Heroes into a movie? Or Sonic CD? AWESOME…
Happy birthday pup
I'm good for them cribbing the Robo-Robotnik concept but as charismatic and well-received as Agent Stone is, I'd almost rather he take up the Robotnik name and be the last vestige of real life human in the Sonic films and shows going forward. I love the pitch tho, Pup! Well done as always and happy belated birthday!
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Jackrobotnik would make a GREAT Sonic 4 eggman
I think it would be better to let Metal fill the gap left by eggman for a trilogy rather than instantly turning around creating a new "eggman" immediately after the third film. It would feel like less of a cop out and also make more sense for Metal Sonic to only resort to bringing his creator back after losing very thoroughly.
Sonic has a lot of potencial to have more movies, is not like Eggman is the only villiain in the franchise
i think that most people fear that cause is so easy to see Paramount executives deciding to pull the plug on the Sonic movies if (more like when) Jim Carrey retires completely
Ultimately these movies make money so I'm sure they will want to continue making these.
@@gameral4235 true, heard that on the list of future Paramount productions there´s a new movie so i guess its possible they´re considering that possibility
man, Jim Carrey makes an amazing Eggman, but Sonic and other characters are great too
a good way would be to replace the villain with a robot
@@Mugen2024 so... what they did with archie robotnik.
This is such a good idea I hope something along the lines of this is what actually happens
This is good! Does Paramount hire pups 🤷🏾♂️
Genuinely, might be the best idea I have heard for the potential Sonic 4
Wow, like this was not only really creative, but like it seems fun and leaves the door open for more afterwards not just a crammed movie.
Granted I believe whatever they do for this 4th movie, I believe it should be spiderverse style, atleast split between 2 movies but one continuous story
No matter much i would love this i dont think slivers ever coming
Eggman Nega could be a way to replace jim if he leaves.
2:44 This part made me laugh 😂😂😂
what they could do is to turn Robotnic into a CGI character during the third movie so they dont need Jim to play as him
You don't think they could get Jim back to voice him, I'm sure he'd be up for recording from home for a million or something
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This video is amazing!
i feel like we don't need a cinematic universe
You could also adapt the shadow the hedgehog game story for a shadow story with black doom and the black arms as the primary villian
I love this idea!👍
I just don't see any Eggman working in this iteration that isn't Jim Carrey. He has already become so iconic and made such an impression on these characters that bringing in someone else would feel kinda cheap. Yeah, it's *technically* not the same Eggman, but he serves the same narrative function and just lacks Jim's quirky energy, so he basically is a recast. And for the same reasons Pup stated, a Sonic timeline can't survive for long without the fat man causing trouble, so a reboot is the only way I see Sonic films going forward.
Ive imagined for awhile that they create a human/animation hybrid model of Sage and she instructs Stone on how to run things until they can get a new Robotnik
1:46 16 bit sonic movie two ending song
And the things don’t even have to be exactly like the games as much as we think or want, metal sonic could totally be power scaled up and be a way bigger threat and go neo metal at the end of a movie, any villain can be scaled up to be stronger than the last or than their game counterpart, chaos could happen after these movies he doesn’t have to be before shadow, he could be a huge final universe battle
Infact in my opinion chaos SHOULD happen after shadow and after everything because he is and can be such a huge final threat, he’s tied into the chaos emerald and everything so perfectly just like thanos
only way people would be hyped for the Sonic multiverse would be if Zonic the Zonecop was cannon.
Because than that just connects every Sonic spin off ever. Like Prime would have been hype if it was different Robotniks we new but it wasn't
I want sonic running through the world of jet set radio for a few seconds at least
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a creative solution for Eggman but most of this feels more like fanfare than a realistic option. For one thing, while I don't think the Mario movie is to be "ignored" per say, it's not like the Sonic Cinematic Universe will take this drastic of a shift for it. I highly doubt these movie studios thought that the reason the Mario movie did so well is because of the fully animated approach. If that were the case we would be seeing way more fully animated movies & less of these live action adaptations. Also the hypothetical movie proposed has almost too many characters at once. But I understand this is under the presumption movie three will be bringing in several characters and not just Shadow. However I think they will be drip feed into the universe for content. Having said all of that, an animated Eggman is actually a neat idea. That could work while keeping Sonic & Eggman on Earth. I know Sonic fans (well some of them) don't care for the human characters but they are a part of this world. The TV show seems to be expanding on this too. While Sonic will get more independent and do more exploring on his own with his friends, Earth will certainly be center stage. Partly cause I'm sure it's cheaper too
Absolutely love this
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Happy birthday 🎉
Bro changes his animation style more than i change clothes
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dude, this idea is SICK. i want this to happen so baaaad. I do think the interstellar amuzement park and silver could be in a different movie though. Blaze should also be introduced with Silver.
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Sonic 4: episode 1 had me giggling lol 💀
fire sonic 4 storyline
*Honestly I would just want Metal Sonic in the movies at some point* 😅
I feel like the actual Sonic 4 could do The same but with Amy instead of Silver!
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tbh i think itd be cool if after eggmans death, if agent stone kinda took over in honor of robotnik directing all the badniks or smth and becoming an actual villain
GREAT IDEA
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Imagine they introduce the metarex 🥶
Im just waiting for the big the cat spin off series
If they do decide to keep making these movies live action,can the next one please be an adaptation of Unleashed?
The game being a globe-trotting adventure,filled with humans,and having a cinematic feel would be a perfect fit for these movies.
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I feel like the universe should also try to keep it simple with it's general premise.
As fun as "sonic 4, episode 1" sounds, I feel like that would already start to make the universe feel over saturated.
Instead of taking notes from universes like marvel or Star wars, I feel like the sonic universe should take notes from universes like the monsterverse. Keep it simple while also making sure the films have (somewhat) self contained stories with an over arching narrative. Kind of what the MCU did back in it's prime.
I also want to mention that villains like perfect chaos or metal sonic alone could serve as great replacements for robotic if we really have to cut him out completely. I am all for a completely animated robotnic being in this franchise, I just feel like it should also come more naturally to ease audiences into this idea of a robotic eggman.
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That would be so coolol im dying that would be AMAZING I want that to happen so bad but maybe with some changes
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This is actually a really great idea! I hope they do something like this.
Though considering all the focus they're putting on G.U.N., and how Sonic's exploits are affecting and changing Earth, I'd expect perhaps the fourth movie might just be a Robotnik-less plot that sees Sonic and co. dealing with other problems that arose from Sonic's conflict with the Doctor, and maybe have Robotnik's big return in the fifth movie (with a little teaser at the end of the fourth no doubt).
Despite how much I would SO watch that Sonic 4 movie, I don't think they'd go that route sadly.
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@@Sammy-34079 Sounds like you're either a troll or someone upset that the Mario movie and Sonic movies have proven profitable. I can excuse the improper grammar on the fact English might not be your first language, but the Mario movie and Sonic films are arguably better made than most of the recent MCU projects. Last MCU project I thoroughly enjoyed was Spider-Man No Way Home. And NWH was released in 2021. Everything MCU after that so far has either been meh, okay at best, or just not good.
Having a robot Eggman would be like having the utrom Shredder Ch'rell in TMNT 2003. It just doesn't feel right to have a non-human version of the main villain replacing the previous incarnation. The writing can have him be killed off permanently and return again with no explanation and you can just go back and forth on this with no real sense of direction.
As for the multiverse idea? They can either just repeat like what they did in the flash by showing pre-existing iterations of other Sonic media (i.e. portals to the Archie/DiC universe, Sonic X universe, video games, ova universe, boom, etc.) It can be established here that the video games all along have always been separate in their own universe and firmly establishing that modern and classic Sonic are indeed their own separate entities, clearing up for the last time that two different Sonics and the two worlds theory have always been a thing in the video games and almost every game in the mainline series has been set in its own universe. That's the only way how I can see this happening for any other problems people may still have with the overall lore. But obviously this doesn't mean it's going to be a crossover event, just cameo visual eye candy for a brief moment or scene.
I haven't seen the third season of Sonic Prime yet, but so far I don't think it's that bad. It's just like Sonic Boom honestly. A generic Sonic TV show with a plot that tries to be like a comic book multiverse story where the alternate worlds are just original made-up varients of the main world from where the main heroes originate from. You know, alternate/parellel world stories or tropes before multiverse movies became a thing.
Otherwise, since the illumination Mario movies are also going to have a shared universe, this can still be the opportunity for the fully animated Sonic and Mario worlds to cross paths and if other video game movies get made down the road (animated ones at least), we can finally have a Mario vs Sonic movie followed by the Super Smash Bros movie.
Although I feel like you can still put Angrry Birds, Mortal Kombat, Detective Pikachu, Legend of Zelda and Minecraft in there, regardless if they originated as live-action films. We as the audience will just have to flow with it that they're now in animated form and move on. Like what Channel Pup said, you can have it both ways. That's Star Wars right now with having one timeline being depicted in both animated and live-action form. It's not rocket science.
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I wish agent stone was in this as the robotnik replacement
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@@Sammy-34079That’s such a good opinion buddy! You are such a good independent thinker! So glad you graduated from elementary recently too! You’re such a hard worker!
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What if, hear me out, Robotnik dies but before he died he ‘implanted’ his consciousness into something or someone else. If it’s a robot then I guess it would be fine but I believe it would be better if somehow Robotnik ‘brainwashes’ someone else and they physiologically become egg man in some type of way, then because of the brainwash and personality change, they change their appearance to be more like how eggman normally looks. Moustache, belly, suit and all. Could be a good way of recasting the actor and making it the same character within the story, but this could just be wishful thinking 😅😎🔥
Step 1: Ask if we can use IDW stuff. (cuz penders ain't gonna budge on the archie shit)
i love the thumbnail....especially how Sonic looks.....that's how he should look in the third film......darker quills are enough
but what about making him...a little taller...still make him Movie Sonic at the core so no major changes like connected eyes or tan arms
....but make him coolel and less cute, maybe give him the adventure smile too......IT WOULD HYPE US TO DEATH
MAKE IT HAPPEN Paramunt....i know you wont, but please....do it
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