"The winner is gonna be the person, who's developed the best kind of reputation in the eyes of Ivan the Terrible and then you'll probably get a medal." Funny you should mention that. The well-known legend we have in Russia actually tells that Ivan ordered to blind the architectors, so that they can't build anything as beautiful ever again.
According to legend, when Ivan the Terrible asked the architect of St Basil's if he could ever build a great cathedral, the architect, aiming to please Ivan, said of course, whatever he wanted. Ivan had him blinded so that there would never be a cathedral greater than St Basils. Winning this game and being the best architect might not actually be the best outcome here
Liking the "plain old review" format. Don't get me wrong, I like the crazy ones. But it may be nice with a bit more plain old reviewiness for variation.
I rather like that it's presented in a nice classic manner with heart and joy thrown in. The skits are nice, but sometimes you just want a good review done in an entertaining manner.
Agree with this. I mainly watch SU&SD for their nuanced and thorough reviews, with a decent dab of jokes. In videos where that dab becomes a continuous spray, I kind of get fed up in the middle of the review. +1 for more reviews like this!
@@arthursimsa9005 SUSD we're never "plain old". With "plain old" I'm referring to the typical "here's what I think of this game" format on which many other reviewers rely.
Glad to hear that the forgetting to reroll the rondel dice isn't just a me problem. Glad to see your take on this game, I had actually pre-ordered it right after seeing Quinns' preview at the first awshux and haven't been disappointed! Definitely looking forward to playing with higher player counts once things return to normal
17:10 Editing Matt so enthused, he had to include both takes of the same message :D "Its short and plays differently with player numbers". Clearly a test in differential analysis: I like the first phrasing better!
I bought it mainly for it's Russian theme but I don't know why it brings so much joy. It surprises you with how much there is to each little decision and how well-thought out it is. Really a great little game :)
Compound interest - the game - Mechanics and stratege compress into a "smore" - delicately showing off the sweet marshmallow, but the biscuit crunch needs to be broken through first. Outstanding review, and places the game and mechanics and tactics at the front. Components are crunchy and good, with great art. Packing so much into such a small space - truly - the reason why big things come in small packages!
I can't imagine how your group was forgetting to roll the dice. Surely the fact that they're dice is an adequate enough reminder that they need to be rolled; I spent the entire review wondering how the dice were going to get rolled because it seemed rather important.
I had a similar experience, but maybe it's WHEN the dice are supposed to be re-rolled that makes you forget? Will have to wait and see until I've played it...
@@SystemOfStrings That's exactly it - you move the dice, which is a calculation in itself, then when you've done that you get to choose things and calculate some more stuff and when THAT'S done, it feels like the end of your turn, so rolling the dice feels like an admin-y afterthought. I don't know what the designers could've done though, since it does need to happen and doesn't fit at the start of the next player's turn or in some other phase or whatever. Turn to turn, the flow is really nice otherwise and you get invested in what other players do since it massively impacts the board state.
@@hipposhaped I think its just part of clean up after the market action, and I personally found it very logical. If you take it as part of the themeing, consider this, which is why it made so much sense to me: Its a way of replicating the idea of supply and demand, based on who acquires what. In standard small markets like this, if all the wood gets bought, someone has to go out and cut more wood, so there might be a scarcity for a bit. That's a way for the game to replicate that sort of idea.
It fits nicely in my (still to be rigorously examined) hypothesis that rules tend to be forgotten when they follow some satisfying action. And that is even when the forgotten rule favours the player who should follow it
Looks so good on the table and , like you Matt, I think the mechanics all seem very interesting on their own and how they work together. Great video....if you are ever in Ann Arbor MI .....we'll get that drink 😆
So your review sold me on this game, and now that I've played it myself, I can say it's GREAT! Super crunchy in a fun way, and also a fun solitaire mode too. :)
I somehow survived Tom's Beyond the Sun review without trying to buy it, but this one broke me down and I ordered before it was done. or maybe I did try to buy Beyond the Sun and it was sold out...
I think they will go with "Absolutely bang on. Lovely, lovely. Delicious. Nice - Matt" rather than the "A game I was mechanically **excited by**" only because you can't really quote hand gestures.
Wow the first thing I thought when you were explaining the rules was, I suppose you roll the dice after moving, I didnt knew that you rolled all of them but I guess I wont have the forgeting to roll the dice problem.
Devir are on fire at the moment - The Red Cathedral and their edition of Polis (a reprint of Polis: Fight for the Hegemony) are excellent games with quality components to match.
@@Shenaldrac It's a common British English expression, I think it's also used in America, and it probably does refer to St Peter. It just amused me because he'd just mentioned Ivan, but of course another famous Russian Tsar would be Peter the Great who is probably better known for his building projects (e.g. St Petersburg, funnily enough also a board game).
I believe you have the trading prestige for cash wrong, if you've been playing like that. You have to move back to the previous prestige point (eagle) space, so if you're on 10 small points, you have to move back 6 spaces to the 1st Eagle space.
I love the SUSD skits, but recently I think I've been feeling bit overwhelmed by the more skit heavy reviews. So having a skitless one was just perfect for where I am in my brain right now.
Whenever I'm 10 minutes into one of the reviews of these econ games and I realize I haven't the foggiest idea how the game works, I'm reminded of certain board game nights with my family. We're an hour into the game, everyone's bored out of their mind, and more and more people are admitting out loud they just want someone to win so we can stop playing this game. So I guess the lesson is, just because a game is good, doesn't mean it's a match for your group.
So glad to have gotten a good game before y'all could get it to instantly sell out! Got my copy from the AwSHUX store last month and haven't been disappointed. But is it just me or do Devir games have an odd smell to the components?
In order to make this game more authentic the one who wins the game should have their eyes cut out. . . . . . . . . . For whose who don't know, this is a reference to Ivan Barma and Postnik Yakovlev.
"The winner is gonna be the person, who's developed the best kind of reputation in the eyes of Ivan the Terrible and then you'll probably get a medal."
Funny you should mention that. The well-known legend we have in Russia actually tells that Ivan ordered to blind the architectors, so that they can't build anything as beautiful ever again.
Any legends of blind architects?
Matt: This cathedral is so large we can't even fit it on the B roll.
Also Matt: This game is small and coffee table sized.
the Little Big Cathedral
It's a foldup cathedral.
Coffee tables are bigger than broll
@@mattlees9342 Yeah but, steel's heavier than feathers.
"I love you."
"I love you too, Mat-"
"No, I don't love you."
....
*Hello Darkness my old friend...*
Matt "Heartbreaker" Lees
According to legend, when Ivan the Terrible asked the architect of St Basil's if he could ever build a great cathedral, the architect, aiming to please Ivan, said of course, whatever he wanted. Ivan had him blinded so that there would never be a cathedral greater than St Basils.
Winning this game and being the best architect might not actually be the best outcome here
Being stuck at the end of the video while waiting uncomfortably for Matt to leave my house was so awkward.
He literally just sat there talking about a board game I've never heard of for 20 minutes and wouldn't leave.
In Spain it was sold out for months when it first came out. Glad I got one on the second print. It's a brilliant game.
We all wish we could have a stunningly unique name like "Matt".
If only...
Some people would say it's classic
😎
It's not ok! What's my name? My name is MOAR SKITZ. Now get in the damn sleeping bag and do the worm again!
Yes we all want worm month
Lol
Liking the "plain old review" format. Don't get me wrong, I like the crazy ones. But it may be nice with a bit more plain old reviewiness for variation.
I agree. Matt's my fave.
I rather like that it's presented in a nice classic manner with heart and joy thrown in. The skits are nice, but sometimes you just want a good review done in an entertaining manner.
Agree with this. I mainly watch SU&SD for their nuanced and thorough reviews, with a decent dab of jokes. In videos where that dab becomes a continuous spray, I kind of get fed up in the middle of the review. +1 for more reviews like this!
Using the words « plain old » in this context isn’t the best. SUSD’s oldest videos are nothing like this.
@@arthursimsa9005 SUSD we're never "plain old". With "plain old" I'm referring to the typical "here's what I think of this game" format on which many other reviewers rely.
I wasn't prepared to introduce myself to Matt today.
I was hoping for Worm Matt myself
Glad to hear that the forgetting to reroll the rondel dice isn't just a me problem. Glad to see your take on this game, I had actually pre-ordered it right after seeing Quinns' preview at the first awshux and haven't been disappointed! Definitely looking forward to playing with higher player counts once things return to normal
Love the vibe of your reviews, Matt! So crisp but wonderful and chill to watch.
17:10
Editing Matt so enthused, he had to include both takes of the same message :D
"Its short and plays differently with player numbers".
Clearly a test in differential analysis: I like the first phrasing better!
Oh man, Matt that awkward outro was exactly like I imagined would happen if we met at a con 🤣
I bought it mainly for it's Russian theme but I don't know why it brings so much joy.
It surprises you with how much there is to each little decision and how well-thought out it is. Really a great little game :)
Always appreciate the skits and humor from SUSD but having a straightforward review every once and awhile is great too. Thanks for the review
Compound interest - the game - Mechanics and stratege compress into a "smore" - delicately showing off the sweet marshmallow, but the biscuit crunch needs to be broken through first. Outstanding review, and places the game and mechanics and tactics at the front. Components are crunchy and good, with great art.
Packing so much into such a small space - truly - the reason why big things come in small packages!
I can't imagine how your group was forgetting to roll the dice. Surely the fact that they're dice is an adequate enough reminder that they need to be rolled; I spent the entire review wondering how the dice were going to get rolled because it seemed rather important.
I had a similar experience, but maybe it's WHEN the dice are supposed to be re-rolled that makes you forget? Will have to wait and see until I've played it...
@@SystemOfStrings That's exactly it - you move the dice, which is a calculation in itself, then when you've done that you get to choose things and calculate some more stuff and when THAT'S done, it feels like the end of your turn, so rolling the dice feels like an admin-y afterthought. I don't know what the designers could've done though, since it does need to happen and doesn't fit at the start of the next player's turn or in some other phase or whatever. Turn to turn, the flow is really nice otherwise and you get invested in what other players do since it massively impacts the board state.
@@hipposhaped I think its just part of clean up after the market action, and I personally found it very logical. If you take it as part of the themeing, consider this, which is why it made so much sense to me:
Its a way of replicating the idea of supply and demand, based on who acquires what. In standard small markets like this, if all the wood gets bought, someone has to go out and cut more wood, so there might be a scarcity for a bit. That's a way for the game to replicate that sort of idea.
It fits nicely in my (still to be rigorously examined) hypothesis that rules tend to be forgotten when they follow some satisfying action. And that is even when the forgotten rule favours the player who should follow it
@@SystemOfStrings I just roll as soon as they've moved but before the market actions
One of the best endings to any youtube video, ever
And just like that... Red Cathedral ceased to be in stock.
i lost it at “eagle sound effect” hahahaha
bought it last month, great game and video! recommend it :)
Looks so good on the table and , like you Matt, I think the mechanics all seem very interesting on their own and how they work together. Great video....if you are ever in Ann Arbor MI .....we'll get that drink 😆
When you realize you still need to make a thumbnail image for your video but the t-shirt that you've worn wile making it is already in the washer.
Good to see that Matt’s chat-up lines haven’t suffered during lockdown
It's weird having Matt backhand my name, when my name is also Matt.
Don't be ridiculous. There can't be two people called Matt. That would get confusing.
How gauche!
Oh wow, this got uploaded just as I was finishing listening to the podcast you guys did with ProZD (which was great btw).
Is this the SUSD podcast or a different one?
@@markheltman2705 It's ProZD's podcast called ProZD + Pals
So your review sold me on this game, and now that I've played it myself, I can say it's GREAT! Super crunchy in a fun way, and also a fun solitaire mode too. :)
I’m looking for this for months! Now that it has a positive SUSD review it’s gonna be another year till I find it 😭
I somehow survived Tom's Beyond the Sun review without trying to buy it, but this one broke me down and I ordered before it was done.
or maybe I did try to buy Beyond the Sun and it was sold out...
Great Review and I love that you managed to squeeze in the skit at the end! never disappoint.
P.s I love you too Matt ; )
ahahah *eagle sound effect* cracked me right up
I think they will go with "Absolutely bang on. Lovely, lovely. Delicious. Nice - Matt" rather than the "A game I was mechanically **excited by**" only because you can't really quote hand gestures.
That ending genuinely made me laugh out loud. Great review and worth watching to the end. 😂
I loved the classic monologue style of this review, still very entertaining! :D
Gotta say the illustrations on cards and the board are just 😍
The game artist seems to have been inspired by the work of Ivan Bilibin:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Bilibin
Matt is all about that crunch!
Damn Matt, the Silk-mention had been the perfect chance to whip out Worm Matt... no wait!
I love the Bilibin-inspired artwork!
From susd I bought oceans, quacks of quedlinburg, skulls and all have been a success. Makes me want to get this game.
Thanks for the review. A bit subdued for you Matt, but still very good and much appreciated. :)
Ah the majestic eagle.
Great video. Putting this one on my wishlist
I bought this game when Quinns mentioned it last year. I haven’t played it yet but now after watching this video I will have to get it to the table!
I wanted to buy this game but I was wondering if it is really as good as it looks. I am glad you made this review because now I know I should get it.
I looked up "rondel" and one of the usage examples was from a board game review. haha
Wow the first thing I thought when you were explaining the rules was, I suppose you roll the dice after moving, I didnt knew that you rolled all of them but I guess I wont have the forgeting to roll the dice problem.
This is a really well done review 👍🏾
Devir are on fire at the moment - The Red Cathedral and their edition of Polis (a reprint of Polis: Fight for the Hegemony) are excellent games with quality components to match.
LOVE YOU BACK BRO
Can I have a link of *eagle sound effect*? I want to set it is my ringtone.
th-cam.com/video/nABjRlCvGBc/w-d-xo.html
@@gomezthechimp1116 r/wooosh
XD
Something about how the game balances multiple boards at once gives me a Terra Mystica Feel. Which is definatly a good thing.
Well done. Great review. I have this game on my shelf of opportunity.
This is just a nice feeling video
"Just build the Cathedral for Pete's sake!" What? I thought you said it was for Ivan?
I guess maybe he meant Saint Peter? But that doesn't make sense either since it's Saint Basil's cathedral.
@@Shenaldrac It's a common British English expression, I think it's also used in America, and it probably does refer to St Peter. It just amused me because he'd just mentioned Ivan, but of course another famous Russian Tsar would be Peter the Great who is probably better known for his building projects (e.g. St Petersburg, funnily enough also a board game).
@@sam1111979 I was joking, but alas once again tone fails to carry well over text. Mea culpa.
I believe you have the trading prestige for cash wrong, if you've been playing like that.
You have to move back to the previous prestige point (eagle) space, so if you're on 10 small points, you have to move back 6 spaces to the 1st Eagle space.
That's what he did in the video?
"A dice" hurts my ears. I know it's basically standard at this point, but.... my ears- it hurts them!
It’s okay, and I love you too, Matt.
Awesome review, made all the better by your hair!
Something many people take in consideration but is skipped in a lot of reviews: The game is amazingly cheap considering the quality of the components.
Will look to pick it up!
Juicy cathedrals... yum.
I love the SUSD skits, but recently I think I've been feeling bit overwhelmed by the more skit heavy reviews. So having a skitless one was just perfect for where I am in my brain right now.
What kind of tablecloth do you use? Also, does it slide around much when playing games?
How does it play with only two players?
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@@the40inchtaco whoosh. 16:08
Love a good board game... though this one looks scary complicated 😅😅😅
Love your videos matt
I could use a drink.
Hard not to love Matt
"Bigger than B roll!!"
I love you guys, this is good content. You are very funny. I like this
Whenever I'm 10 minutes into one of the reviews of these econ games and I realize I haven't the foggiest idea how the game works, I'm reminded of certain board game nights with my family. We're an hour into the game, everyone's bored out of their mind, and more and more people are admitting out loud they just want someone to win so we can stop playing this game. So I guess the lesson is, just because a game is good, doesn't mean it's a match for your group.
Not sure if it's just me, but the volume appears to be a tad low on this video
I like (wouldn't go as far as love!) your skits and jokes, but I liked this review nevertheless.
pretty good, do more reviews
I played this game once, its not bad.
Uh oh. I have a bad feeling about how this game ends for the players.
"Silk was pretty good" :S
It is a bit weird to have a skitless Matt
I'm surprised you've heard my name a lot, not exactly common in britain i imagine
Didn't you already do a video on this game?
they did a preview, around 7 months ago, but it was just a 7 minute section on a longer video
@@Houseballey Oh thanks!
So glad to have gotten a good game before y'all could get it to instantly sell out! Got my copy from the AwSHUX store last month and haven't been disappointed.
But is it just me or do Devir games have an odd smell to the components?
Svwag disliked this game and now I don't know what to think. It's like my two parents are arguing...
That's okay, champ. Ya did a good job ah kid.
Matt sounds an awful lot like Wheatley at the end there...
It's all your fault I bought it!
Wooo I have been waiting for this one!
In order to make this game more authentic the one who wins the game should have their eyes cut out.
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For whose who don't know, this is a reference to Ivan Barma and Postnik Yakovlev.
Hair beret.
Regarding the scoreboard, Matt probably never played the Gallerist?
Plane beautiful review
Is this a re-upload or a reanalysis? I feel as though I've seen SU&SD review this game.
but I DO love you Matt
Where did the other half of his hair go?
How awkward would it be if I just rewatched the video Matt ?
Is this game easy to teach?
If I ever meet you in public I'll definitely buy you a drink.
Love you too
I can’t believe he just said “wazump “. Isn’t this supposed to be a family show?
I swear I thought matt was tom in the thumbnail
Specifically I thought it was tom dressing up as Matt.
This game has been out of print for at least a year. Why are you reviewing out of print games? Is it still in print in Europe?
Lots of copies around, check the links under our video.
Ah so I see. It has been impossible to find in North America. Been on my radar for around 6 months. Thanks for the link and the enlightenment.
Matt doesn't love me!?!